No Vehicle Excise Duty

[Ian2day]

My mode of transport is registered with the DVLA. Its vehicle excise license has expired, end of last month. Its parked in an unmarked bay outside my home. This morning I notice that there is a bright orange sticker on my mode of transport. Informing me that it is parked without a valid excise duty being displayed whilest parked on the housing authoritys property. Which I already knew was the case. It informs me that unless I remove or display a valid excise license in the next 7 days that it will be reported to the police/ dvla.

Should I fix a notice to the mode of transport informing anyone that fixes a sign or tampers with it without my prior written consent that they are trespassing and committing harrassment and charge them accordingly? Should I issue a fee schedule to the housing authority listing my fee for any tresspass onto my private property and that I will constitute it as harrassment. I'm sure that the parking bays have not been adopted as a part of the highway. That I am well within my rights as a tennet to have my mode of transport parked in the parking area. Or should I just stop being so petty and move my car. Thoughts?

I had this before where I use to live. The council came round and saw my mode of transport parked in the parking area of the flat I lived in. Not displaying a vehicle excise duty disc. So they reported me to dvla. Who made threats to me. I responded pointing out that the parking area was private property located on a private road not adopted by the local authority. So they eventually aggreed with me and ceased with their harrassment. And false claims of my committing an offence under some road traffic act.

I'm getting bored of their games. Its tedious that they pounce like the Borg if you do not conform conform conform. I feel like declaring Freeman as I am sick of the shit. However my health is not too good. So yet more stress from fun and games when I want to just relax and try to get well is pushing me to the... The Borg has a real strong presence in my area.

[wakeupworld]

First of all don`t take it personally or should I say humanly :) We are all persons as far as they are concerned. What are persons good for? More profit for their companies.

I`d just move it for now until you`ve discovered a tried and tested method to deal with them as a non-person.

[Ian2day]

I like your signature, so I quoted it before you change it.



I never had a proper education, I went to school

[Ian2day]

Perhaps I should add that this vehicle is by their deffinition a registered car. So I have in effect contracted to display a valid excise duty disc when on the public road. My point is that the car is not on the public road as they like to put it. It is on private property so exempt from the dvla road traffic act. I have in the past used motorised vehicles/cars without a number plate, MOT or vehicle excise duty. Fully and totally within the law. I did have road risk insurance at the time though.

[wakeupworld]

Thanks re signature.
I take your point that your point that your car is not on a public road, however I have seen these notices on cars that are in car parks in housing estates which are off the road.

They just hope people don`t understand enough and will renew, as I said all about profit.

Where did you park before when you lawfully had no road tax?

[dreamweaver]

If it's registered under their system, then you will probably have to 'SORN' it under their system. As far as I can tell, being a Freeman on the Land is an either/or thing, you can't pick and choose which bits you like.

[Ian2day]

Thanks re signature.
I take your point that your point that your car is not on a public road, however I have seen these notices on cars that are in car parks in housing estates which are off the road.

They just hope people don`t understand enough and will renew, as I said all about profit.

Where did you park before when you lawfully had no road tax?


I have also seen plenty of cars in car parks and in parking bays with stickers and clamps placed on them for no road tax. I suspect that some have even been towed when not committing any offence. Just because some nomad was just following orders and the owner was unaware of the law.

There are no signs displayed, where my car is parked, so if they clamp it. They are committing a criminal offence and I will be reporting them for it. I also doubt that they are licensed to clamp by the secretary of state for the environment I think it is. So I may just sorn it and then wait for the clamper to turn up. Then see if they crush it and sue them for the value I place on the car as well as my hurt feelings and loss of transport etc. I have arthritis in my feet so if they steal my car. I will be in pain as a consequence and will...;)

The last time it was the local council overstepping the mark, and entering illegally onto another housing associations property, to check for abandonded vehicles. They didn't stop at the location of a sig,n stating that it was a private road with no public access. They went along the road, and even off of the private road, onto the parking bays. Snitching everyone to dvla, falsely stating that they were breaking some road traffic act.

I eventually received a letter from dvla, demanding payment for back tax or else. We take you to court, for an offence in breach, of the road traffic act. I became quite irate at this, informing them to check their facts. That the councils agent had tresspassed, and that I was not breaking any of their road traffic acts. As the car was sorn anyway, and it was in a private parking area, located adjacent to a road unadopted by the local authority.

Sorn is required within 14 days. So I have plenty of time still.;)

[pleasuredome]

sometimes its worth considering picking which battles are worth fighting. if you can move it, then i'd just move it cos to me its not that big a deal. then you've got plenty of time to look into the matter more.

[chateaux]

This is what I have done - (not I am not in your neck fo the woods)

Make your own "Record Disk", in a different name. I have made up a society name and have a notice included on the disk. The disk looks official and it is up to date, well it expires in 2012.

Now wait to see what they say...

So far no issues here.

[the maestro]

A few times I've forgotten to sorn an off-road vehicle for several months and the DVLA have sent me a letter saying I could be prosecuted for not having tax and not declaring SORN. I can't see anything in the RTA where it mentions SORN so they are either operating illegally or its in some other legislation.

[the maestro]

oh I found this:

All vehicle registration and licensing in the UK is governed by the Vehicle Excise and Registration Act (VERA) 1994 and the Road Vehicles (Registration and Licensing) Regulations 2002. The Act states that all mechanically propelled vehicles registered under the Act must be continually licensedor have a SORN declaration made against them. The law is clear: a SORN declaration is required if a vehicle is registered and kept off road in Great Britain and the licence expires or is surrendered.

Nice that it says 'registered under the act' at least.

[number_6]

My point is that the car is not on the public road as they like to put it. It is on private property so exempt from the dvla road traffic act. .

For VED, ownership of the land where the vehicle is parked is immaterial. VED is required if on land that is maintained at public expense.