Does Today's Situation In Europe Look Like 1941?

[december]

In 1941 when the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany signed number of friendly agreements including a non-attack deal, but when the peace was secured on paper, Germany invaded the Soviet Union in 1941.

And today USA and Russia seems like are vary good friends who sign friendly agreements and say nice things about each other, but as it was in 1941, the Western troops (today they are called NATO) moved up right next to Russia's border.

And waiting for an order....

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Operation Barbarossa (German: Unternehmen Barbarossa) was the codename for Nazi Germany's invasion of the Soviet Union during World War II that commenced on June 22, 1941. The operation was named after the Emperor Frederick Barbarossa of the Holy Roman Empire, a leader of the Crusades in the 12th century. It is not to be confused with the war on the Eastern Front in its entirety.

The operational goal of Operation Barbarossa was the rapid conquest of the European part of the Soviet Union, west of a line connecting the cities of Arkhangelsk and Astrakhan, often referred to as the A-A line (see the translation of Hitler's directive for details). At its conclusion in December 1941, the Red Army had repulsed the strongest blow of the Wehrmacht. Hitler had not achieved the victory he had expected, but the situation of the Soviet Union remained critical. Tactically the Germans had won some resounding victories and occupied some of the most important economical areas of the country, most notably in the Ukraine. Despite these successes, the Germans were pushed back from Moscow and were not able to mount an offensive simultaneously along the entire strategic Soviet-German front again.

Operation Barbarossa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


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NATO Is Getting Closer To Russia's Borders

http://davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5851

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

Cordial Felicitations!, Comrade December:

Indeed it may be percieved as:' Just like Europe in 1941'; if one were inclined to disregard 66 (sixty-six) years of Technological, Geo-Political, Demographical, Socio-Economic changes.

'Keep Your Eye on the Ball', not the 'Sock Puppet' Putin!

Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

[lifeofbrian]

Does Today's Situation In Europe Look Like 1941?

In 1941 when the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany signed number of friendly agreements including a non-attack deal, but when the peace was secured on paper, Germany invaded the Soviet Union in 1941.

And today USA and Russia seems like are vary good friends who sign friendly agreements and say nice things about each other, but as it was in 1941, the Western troops (today they are called NATO) moved up right next to Russia's border.

And waiting for an order....

Unless you believe the US and Europe is one nation, that logic makes no sense, man.

NATO is not the puppet of the US you know.

[december]

Unless you believe the US and Europe is one nation, that logic makes no sense, man.

NATO is not the puppet of the US you know.

I was writing about NATO. You didn't notice?

[lifeofbrian]

I was writing about NATO. You didn't notice?

I noticed and responded :)

The way I understand what you mean is, that you think that if NATO extend their union to include more European nations, that it means the USA is sneaking up on Russia? While the USA in public media politics is being all friendly with Russia at the same time?

I tried to say, that the USA is not NATO. Nor does the US control NATO.

Maybe I misunderstood you?

Very likely. I beg your pardon.

[december]

I tried to say, that the USA is not NATO. Nor does the US control NATO.

Maybe I misunderstood you?

Lifeofbrian, I think you understood me correctly.
Yes, I belive the USA controls NATO. But it doesn't really matter who has more control over NATO troops - EU or US.

But what does matter is that they are sitting at our border again as it was in 1941...

[lifeofbrian]

Lifeofbrian, I think you understood me correctly.
Yes, I belive the USA controls NATO. But it doesn't really matter who has more control over NATO troops - EU or US.

But what does matter is that they are sitting at our border again as it was in 1941...

OK :)

I thought the UN (United Nations) had something to do with NATO. My mistake.

Neighbours can live peacefully side by side. Look at the countries in Northern Europe. They take the piss out of each other all the time, but it's all in jest (not meaning any harm). They can joke but not take it seriously because they are all tired of war.

Maybe the people in Russia are tired of death, starvation and misery too, like a lot of the Eastern European countries, who are now trying to work to improve the standards of their own people.

It would be a shame if lack of work in some country in the region, makes a leader decide a war is the only way to avoid civil unrest. That is very common; some guy deciding uniting against some 'enemy' is better than having the people demand better conditions at home. Old method and diversion tactic.

[december]

OK :) Neighbours can live peacefully side by side. Look at the countries in Northern Europe. They take the piss out of each other all the time, but it's all in jest (not meaning any harm). They can joke but not take it seriously because they are all tired of war.

We are not talking about countries here but the millitary institutions.
For some reason this information was not reported in the Western media:


25.02.2004
NATO E-3 AVAX plane conducted aerial reconnaissance in Russian border area in the evening of February 23, Russian Ministry of Defense reported.
AVAX was flying in Latvian airspace near Russian borders from 5:30 pm to 7:30 pm Msk February 23.

According to the source in Russian Defense Ministry, on February 23 the spy plane flew from Germany (Geilekirchen Air Base) to Rumble aerodrome in Latvia “to demonstrate the capacity of force and equipment within AVAX-NATO system".

For two hours AVAX was flying over Latvia and conducting radio, radar and other kinds of aerial reconnaissance of Russian and Byelorussian territory using all spy equipment aboard the plane.

”AVAX flights in the airspace of Latvia and Lithuania enable NATO to conduct deep aerial reconnaissance of Belarus and North-Western region of Russia, and we are concerned about this”, said the representative of Russian Air Force General Staff.

http://english.pravda.ru/hotspots/conflicts/25-02-2004/4934-nato-0

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9804/12/latvia.russia/latvia.riga.map.lg.jpg

[lifeofbrian]

Yes. I suppose the military on all sides has to be kept busy to justify their existence?

Do you remember the Soviet submarine that headed for Swedish territory and got stuck a number of years ago? That created some panic and headlines.

Turned out the captain was drunk. :)

[armoured saint]

December conveniently leaves out certain events that make Russia look bad, such as the shared invasion of Poland, Russia's aggression against Finland. Don't forget all the killings and persecutions of a number of peoples such as the Cossacks.

[kashmirz]

december you do so much research you should really archive all this, so you can analyze it furthur ;)