Madeline Sacrafice

[pillowtalk]

I have only just seen this thread.

I am just up the A22 (in London right now though) from Luz where Madeline was taken, i also know the English couple who’s balcony over looks the window of the room where she went missing.

I also know the girl who was working for the Algarve resident (Helen) who interviewed the mother, her words “there is something not right about her, i can’t put my finger on it !!, just something odd”.
Helen told me she had a very cold feel to her with no emotional energy around her.

Helen had around three sessions with her in total, and said she was the same ever time !!.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42925000/jpg/_42925083_madeleine_pa_203_b.jpg

I will say that Madie has green eyes and not Blue though.

Out of 267 votes 89.51% of you think this has something to do with sub~Q chips ??.

A lot of media time was dedicated to this story last year ‘WHY’ ??, there is a reason.
But was it covering up something more important / getting everyone even more afraid for their children & another step closer to Chipping them / other.
Being an armchair analyst is one thing, but knowing is another altogether !!.

I will add that the Portuguese were not happy as when one of their kids goes ‘AWOL’ no fucking European media (in it’s entirety) comes to town for the freak show !!, and i don’t blame them for being angry.

PT.

[illuminotti]

Pillowtalk, Kate is a very cold person!!
Did your friend Helen offer any other insights???

[phildee3]

Kate is a very cold person!!



A reptilian who bred a child for the sole purpose of a reptilian sacrafice.

[pillowtalk]

Pillowtalk, Kate is a very cold person!!
Did your friend Helen offer any other insights???

Other than the ones outlined in the post, no.

Sorry.

I will say that we are up by the Barragem do arrade (a huge man made lake) and the ‘GNR’ with a team of divers & media crews were all over the place a few weeks ago.
Upon being asked, one of the news teams told us that some one had found some bones / child's clothing on the banks at the back of the lake.
I walk the dogs up the back of that lake, it’s national park out there.
We are the last citrus farming valley before you get in to the national park, which is 1000’s of square KM’s of foot hills.
There is not much out there till you get to Lisboa (Lisbon).

IMO ~ if she never left the country, she is out there.
But leaving the country is not a problem !!, i drive through, France / Spain and into Portugal at Sebatual, then down the A2 to the Algarve and no one looks at me from the time i leave Dover !!.
You could take anything you wanted anywhere in the Iberian peninsula !!.

PT.

[illuminotti]

Deep down i know she's dead.....there's just something that niggles at me that makes me think she's alive, too many connections and fingers in pies....
Although, if you cut out the bullshit,read the facts....they definitly killed her and whoever else was there on the 3rd, who later that night fled on a private jet are involved too, me thinks thats why so much help from Gordon Brown!!

[pillowtalk]

Deep down i know she's dead.....there's just something that niggles at me that makes me think she's alive, too many connections and fingers in pies....


What connections / fingers, & what pies ??.

PT.

[steevo]

A reptilian who bred a child for the sole purpose of a reptilian sacrafice.

I think that is a possibilty.
I'm not sure that she is dead though but who knows. We will find out soon probably. It wouldnt surprise me if they find her either alive or dead in another country and then people will think, if ONLY she had been chipped, we would have found her straight away along with all the other kids who are taken...or sacrificed.

[illuminotti]

I think it's about alot more than microchipping children!!
Gerry was just about to be offered a government job, wonder what he's done and who he's crossed.......

[phildee3]

Gerry was just about to be offered a government job, wonder what he's done and who he's crossed.......



Nobody.
He's doing exactly what his masters are telling him to, and will be taken well care of as long as he does, that's for sure.

[phildee3]

...whoever else was there on the 3rd, who later that night fled on a private jet are involved too, me thinks thats why so much help from Gordon Brown!!



Maddie was on that jet.
The boat was a decoy.

[diamond dogs]

I notice Robert Murat, is still listed as a formal suspect and has not been cleared. I would have thought he would have been cleared by now if there was 'no evidence' linkng him to any part of the enquiry??


Detectives took him in for questioning 11 days after she went missing and made him the first arguido, or formal suspect, in the case.

He has always strenuously protested his innocence but is still waiting to be officially cleared of involvement in the four-year-old's disappearance.

[pillowtalk]

I notice Robert Murat, is still listed as a formal suspect and has not been cleared. I would have thought he would have been cleared by now if there was 'no evidence' linkng him to any part of the enquiry??


You are talking about the ‘GNR’ (Guarda Nacional Republicana) who are a military police.
These guys are not Scotland yard !!, LOLZ...........

They are also one of the most corrupt police forces in Europe.
Drug dealing / kidnapping , etc.............

Of course, little has been seen of the No.1 and only suspect in the Madeleine McCann case since his name was linked with her abduction. Since the time a Mirror journalist found him creepy, since his old boss told us of Murat’s fetish for bouncy castles.
Not to mention allegations of child porn on his ‘PC’.

I don’t think he will be cleared just yet.

Here they are in action !!, they don’t fuck about, LOLZ......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CNcEKW7XeA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g8qLhhdTiQ

PT

[americana]

Last week was the one-year anniversary of Madeleine's disappearance, so the story has been on my mind. I've found this thread simply fascinating and very thought-provoking.

There's a lot to "digest" here, so I don't know if someone else has mentioned what the possible cloning might imply.

Has anyone else read Kazuo Ishiguro's 2006 novel, Never Let Me Go?

The novel takes place in England in the late 1990's, and it concerns clones raised for organ harvesting. Sorry, that's a bit of a spoiler, as the reader may not realize right away what's going on . . . as the organ donations are referred to through euphemisms. It's a quiet, thoughtful, truly devastating read.

Also, there has been much engaging analysis of the eye imagery. As has been noted, Madeleine's condition is known as a Coloboma.

Now, I know nothing of Madeleine's personal health, BUT a Coloboma can be a symptom of two other syndromes, CHARGE and the Cat Eye Syndrome. See wikipedia on this topic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coloboma

These syndromes incur other health problems and body abnormalities. Now, I'm NOT making any assertions about Madeleine herself, but I find this intriguing and/or problematic, given the cloning issue.



Another piece of the puzzle, which I've seen noted on another board quite a while ago, is that the "official" posters do not note Madeleine's height and weight. Odd, don't you think? And utterly non-SOP.

Along with that, I believe that many of the photographs disseminated by the Drs. McCann were not current. In many, she is much younger than when she disappeared. That, along with the lack of height and weight information, etc., is disturbing.

Now, this is a stretch, but perhaps if and when Madeleine resurrects "from the dead" so to speak, it will NOT be "Madeleine", per se, but her clone.

She will indeed have been sacrificed (or vice-versa, someone else was sacrificed for her.)

Now, having said all this, the reality of the situation is an unimaginable horror. Madeleine, despite whatever symbolic charge she carries, is/ was a real person. So I don't mean to sound cavalier with my suggestions.

[pri01]

Last week was the one-year anniversary of Madeleine's disappearance, so the story has been on my mind. I've found this thread simply fascinating and very thought-provoking.

There's a lot to "digest" here, so I don't know if someone else has mentioned what the possible cloning might imply.

Has anyone else read Kazuo Ishiguro's 2006 novel, Never Let Me Go?

The novel takes place in England in the late 1990's, and it concerns clones raised for organ harvesting. Sorry, that's a bit of a spoiler, as the reader may not realize right away what's going on . . . as the organ donations are referred to through euphemisms. It's a quiet, thoughtful, truly devastating read.

Also, there has been much engaging analysis of the eye imagery. As has been noted, Madeleine's condition is known as a Coloboma.

Now, I know nothing of Madeleine's personal health, BUT a Coloboma can be a symptom of two other syndromes, CHARGE and the Cat Eye Syndrome. See wikipedia on this topic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coloboma

These syndromes incur other health problems and body abnormalities. Now, I'm NOT making any assertions about Madeleine herself, but I find this intriguing and/or problematic, given the cloning issue.



Another piece of the puzzle, which I've seen noted on another board quite a while ago, is that the "official" posters do not note Madeleine's height and weight. Odd, don't you think? And utterly non-SOP.

Along with that, I believe that many of the photographs disseminated by the Drs. McCann were not current. In many, she is much younger than when she disappeared. That, along with the lack of height and weight information, etc., is disturbing.

Now, this is a stretch, but perhaps if and when Madeleine resurrects "from the dead" so to speak, it will NOT be "Madeleine", per se, but her clone.

She will indeed have been sacrificed (or vice-versa, someone else was sacrificed for her.)

Now, having said all this, the reality of the situation is an unimaginable horror. Madeleine, despite whatever symbolic charge she carries, is/ was a real person. So I don't mean to sound cavalier with my suggestions.

Great points about the SOP's re:height and weight information. Spot on observation. This has also triggered my thought processes. If one of my kids had gone missing I would be letting everyone know what key phrases my child responded to just in case they were to spot them in public and need confirmation. I think if my child were in dangerous hands then the danger period will have been at the time of abduction and soon after. After one year, if she is still alive then she is probably in safe hands.

However, a three/four year old away from her parents and family will have probably forgotten them by now.

[gribz]

I really dont know if Maddie has been sacraficed but I do think the McCanns have something to do with her disappearance whether they accidentally killed her or something else.

There body language and actions are totally different to any missing child case Ive ever seen. They (Gerry especially) is always trying to convince (manipulate) that they are concerned and didnt do too much wrong - they should be charged with negligence to start with!!!

Ive barely ever heard them sitting and pleading the abductor for her return!

Absolute bizarre case and another where the truth wont come out!!

[illuminotti]

Here's a few names in the MCcann saga....Financial backers and supporters.

Reward Contributors:

JK Rowling – rags to riches – from single parent on benefits to becoming the renowned writer of the Harry Potter Books. JK Rowling collaborated with Sarah Brown, wife of British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, a book of children's stories to aid One Parent Families.

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Sir Philip Green – rags to riches - The man who sold shoes after leaving school with no qualifications is now Britain's richest retailer, according to the Times Rich List. He loaned McCann’s his private jet. Green donated £250,000 as a monetary reward for any useful public information.

According to The Independent on Sunday “He's [Sir Philip Green] not on Gordon Brown's new business leaders council but says his relationship with the Prime Minister is: "OK. I've spoken to him a few times. But I don't do politics, as such.”

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Sir Richard Branson– rags to riches - he started as a chief of a magazine student to where he is now.

Launches Virgin Stem Cell Bank on 1st February 2007.

Sir Branson's official site: Virgin Health Bank website.

Richard Branson and Gordon Brown: The Independent on Sunday quotes: “He [Sir Richard Branson] plans to build more refineries in the east of the US, and then invest in biofuels in Britain. And he is in talks with Gordon Brown's officials about changing tax rules to enable him to run Virgin trains partly on them.”

mhl Support Ltd explains how “mhl's MD Nick McKay, was invited to join Sir Richard Branson and the Chancellor Gordon Brown at Sir Richard's home in Oxfordshire' earlier this month'”

And Richard Branson tells BBC News how he is a big fan of Gordon Browns.

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Bill Kenwright – rags to riches - from ‘stumbling’ actor to successful theatrical producer. According to The Telegraph (3rd January 2005)

“The impresario Bill Kenwright was also on the list of those entertained by the taxpayer. Mr Kenwright, it will be remembered, donated £200,000 to the Labour Party.”

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Eggert Magnusson – nothing known

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John Madejski – from founder of Thames Valley Trader magazine which sold anything and everything, to chairman of the Football League club Reading F.C. in 1990, and has given his name to the club's Madejski Stadium, built in 1998 with £25 million largely contributed by him. In 2006 he led the Royals to the top tier of English football the first time in their 135-year history, and has since proposed plans for an expansion of the stadium to 38,000 seats. He’s also active in politics.

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Jacqueline Gold - daughter of David Gold, the owner of Birmingham City F.C., and who ran a publishing business which was responsible for bringing sex magazines to the high street. Jacqueline Gold became successful through creating the Ann Summers Party Plan range to households.

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Simon Cowell – from working in a mail room to becoming an executive to Sony BMG. His maternal grandfather is Scottish. Apart from having a connection with Sir Philip Green, there is nothing (as far as I’m aware so far) linking Mr Cowell with anything else.


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Wayne Rooney – Odd one out. Although he is not mentioned by name and does not imply that Wayne Rooney is involved, there is an article Footballers harvest babies for stem cell repair kits that may make some interesting reading.

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Michael Vaughan – from lowly beginnings to becoming captain for the England Cricket Team. Vaughan has captained England to more Test wins than any of his predecessors. Other than that there doesn’t seem much else about him.

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Sir Tom Hunter – rags to riches - Sir Tom Hunter was reportedly the first ever home-grown billionaire in Scotland. He is currently the richest individual in Scotland, his wealth was recently estimated at £1.05 billion.

In 2005, Sir Hunter invested £100,000 in a £500,000 joint project with the Scottish Executive.

The Scottish Government (SG) (Scottish Gaelic: Riaghaltas na h-Alba) is the executive arm of government of Scotland. It was established in 1999 as the Scottish Executive which remains its legal name in accordance with the Scotland Act 1998. but, following the 2007 Scottish general election, its name was changed by the incoming Scottish National Party administration.

Along with Sir Christopher Evans (Welsh biotech entrepreneur), Sir Tom Hunter plans a £500m Healthcare Raid “targeting mature healthcare companies, with individual investments ranging from between £30m to £300m each.

It is thought that Evans and Hunter have already identified five serious takeover targets, including two British companies.”

The new fund is likely to lead to a significant expansion of Merlin and ultimately a more formal structure as well as a new name.

Earlier this year “Merlin” teamed up with Sir Richard Branson to launch a stem-cell banking business.”

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Sir Stelio Haji-Ioannou – rags to riches – from working in his father’s shipping company to becoming a self-made tycoon, probably better known for EasyJet. Nothing else known about him.

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John Hargreaves – from market stall holder selling Marks and Spencer seconds to becoming Chairman of the board for Matalan stores. Nothing else known about him.

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Other people involved:

Brian Kennedy - Double-glazing tycoon was revealed to be the latest mystery backer. He is paying Clarence Mitchell's wages and has offered his in-house lawyer Ed Smethurst. He is not the great uncle of Madeleine McCann, they merely share the same name Brian Kennedy.

Tycoon John Geraghty, (McCanns hire car kept in his garage his villa near Praia da Luz to, apparently, allow McCanns to do their own independent forensics.)

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Gordon Brown on Stem Cell Research

UK gets £100m Stem Cell Boost
“The UK's stem cell research programmes will benefit from £100m over the next two years after Gordon Brown doubled the government's financial committement to the technology, Reuters reports. Brown said the cash would go to "pre-commercial aspects of stem cell research" - considered high-risk by pharmaceutical companies - and the recently-established UK Stem Cell Foundation.”

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Not related to the above ‘McCann Backers’ but odd all the same. It appears Gordon Brown made his presence known in the pop world too. According to the Daily Mail:

“But he [Rhydian, X-Factor finalist] seems to have supporters in high places after Gordon Brown reportedly wrote an astonishing letter to Rhydian backing the loser in the phone vote scandal..

The Prime Minister is said to have penned the personal note to the Welsh Singer because of his "personal interest" in claims by fans that the show's final was rigged.

Media Secretary James Purnell has also asked to be kept informed about allegations that viewers deliberately blocked viewers from voting for Rhydian, 24.

“…Downing Street declined to comment on the letter to Rhydian, saying it was a "personal matter".

[psychick]

TOTALLY AGREE!

The parents are getting away with murder... oops, did l say that? :rolleyes:

I really dont know if Maddie has been sacraficed but I do think the McCanns have something to do with her disappearance whether they accidentally killed her or something else.

There body language and actions are totally different to any missing child case Ive ever seen. They (Gerry especially) is always trying to convince (manipulate) that they are concerned and didnt do too much wrong - they should be charged with negligence to start with!!!

Ive barely ever heard them sitting and pleading the abductor for her return!

Absolute bizarre case and another where the truth wont come out!!

[pri01]

I've been thinking about this case and I have another theory. Maddie was conceived artificially. Is it possible that she may have been cloned? The official Maddie made for the very purpose of sacrifice was taken to Portugal and never returned home. The unofficial Maddie is kept out of view elswhere to be revealed alive at a later date. There have been lots of stories around twins in the media ever since.

Even if she were accidently seen and it were reported to main stream media, it won't get reported.

They have made such a big deal about her eye defect, it was one of the main focus items at the time. They also made a great deal of noise over her DNA being found in and around the flat and car.

The faces of small children change as they get older, and in such a short space of time too. Say she were to be revealed in 2012 the World public are going to want irrefutable proof. The eye will be the proof and the DNA evidence will further confirm this. You can just see the headlines.

[pri01]

I've been thinking about this case and I have another theory. Maddie was conceived artificially. Is it possible that she may have been cloned? The official Maddie made for the very purpose of sacrifice was taken to Portugal and never returned home. The unofficial Maddie is kept out of view elswhere to be revealed alive at a later date. There have been lots of stories around twins in the media ever since.

Even if she were accidently seen and it were reported to main stream media, it won't get reported.

They have made such a big deal about her eye defect, it was one of the main focus items at the time. They also made a great deal of noise over her DNA being found in and around the flat and car.

The faces of small children change as they get older, and in such a short space of time too. Say she were to be revealed in 2012 the World public are going to want irrefutable proof. The eye will be the proof and the DNA evidence will further confirm this. You can just see the headlines.

I forgot to add. When the family left for Portugal, Gerry video recordered Maddie and twins walking to the plane on the tarmac. Wether he used a phone to do this or a camcorder I don't know. But I do know that you're not allowed to have a phone switched on until you are inside the terminal building. I don't know if this applies to camcorders either.

However, McCanns strike me as a family that have regular holidays. Does anyone know if they made a habit of recording their kids getting on planes, or was this part of the plan to help fool the public?

[diamond dogs]

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/1105_maddie.shtml

Maddie World Exclusive:
First pictures and video in flat
How fiend could have kept out of sight
By Keith Gladdis & Dominic Herbert

News Of The World Exclusive video inside the apartment

Ignore all the crap about where the abductor could hide it shows how callous and irresponsible they are 'IF' she was abducted...clearly no view from the tappas bar....and no way should three children have been left alone!!

[zarah]

I forgot to add. When the family left for Portugal, Gerry video recordered Maddie and twins walking to the plane on the tarmac. Wether he used a phone to do this or a camcorder I don't know. But I do know that you're not allowed to have a phone switched on until you are inside the terminal building. I don't know if this applies to camcorders either.

However, McCanns strike me as a family that have regular holidays. Does anyone know if they made a habit of recording their kids getting on planes, or was this part of the plan to help fool the public?

Ive never seen the footage, but Im absolutely amazed that someone who goes on regular holdays would film their children on the tarmac or anywhere else on the journey.

[pri01]

Ive never seen the footage, but Im absolutely amazed that someone who goes on regular holdays would film their children on the tarmac or anywhere else on the journey.

Yes, the footage was shown on main stream TV at the earlier stage of the investigation and shows Maddie skipping towards the steps of the Airoplane on the runway. She slips near or on the steps and grazes her knee. Gerry McCann is talking to her, but it's slipped my memory what he actually says. But I would agree, it is unusual to be filming your kids on the tarmac walking to the aircraft. There are lots of fuel tankers on an airfield filling up aircraft also. I'm suprised none of the staff including the pilots if they were observing from the cockpit attempted to stop him. I remember when I landed when returning from a trip and I switched my mobile on whilst still on the aircraft but waiting to leave. I was told immediately to switch it off until a was inside the terminal.

[gribz]

Has anyone actually ever seen or heard the McCanns sitting pleading on TV in tears begging for the abductor to return their daughter??? - Just like in normal missing children cases!

I havent! All ive seen is them trying to convince people they did nothing wrong.

I really hope the truth comes out on this one.

I actually think the Portugese Police have/had something on the McCanns but were put under pressure from somewhere not to charge them. Hence this is another reason they wont go back to Portugal.

[pandamania]

There's many strange twists to this story.

Regarding the allegation of Child abuse or satanic ritual: it's been suggested that a strange looking couple had been 'chased away' by holiday makers in the Algarve who were disturbed by them taking photographs of their children.

Do you have a source for this?

The whole midnight church visits and weird ULTRA high-profile freakshows at catholic holy shrines by Team McCann (who had no history of 'devote catholics' prior to May 3rd 2007) is just so freaky.

But if you want some thing to really ponder. There is a photo of Kate McCann outside the church in the ALgarve where she suddenly turns unexpectedly towards the camera and it is the freakist thing I have seen in years. It almost like a being who does not understand human social interaction and her expression is a combination of 'hello' and 'ready to fight'. I kid you not - you have to see this photo to believe it. It simply is not normal human behaviour, and most certainly not a brokenhearted parent of an abducted child. The whole vibe is her trying to somehow get back on script while fighting to hold back her true inner self. I wish I could find it - was all over the net this time last year.

If anything the overwhelming bombardment of Maddie's face, the spooky LOOK logo and all this other almost icon/taliman aspect of the case should set off alarm bells.

There was a report in the Algarve papers that the parish priest who gave them the keys to the church is now "a changed man".

Also name one other couple in the history of the world whose child went missing who hired a former British agent as their PR guru which New Labour supplied to them?

[americana]

[QUOTE=pandamania;356814]

If anything the overwhelming bombardment of Maddie's face, the spooky LOOK logo and all this other almost icon/taliman aspect of the case should set off alarm bells.
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Intriguing that you should use the word "icon", given this news report

"LONDON, England (CNN) -- Madeleine McCann has become an icon for missing children, her parents said Friday on the eve of the anniversary of the British toddler's disappearance from a Portuguese holiday resort.

"Madeleine does seem to have become iconic of missing children," Kate McCann told CNN in an interview as the couple launched a fresh appeal for information about Madeleine's whereabouts and vowed never to give up the search until she is found."


http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/05/02/mccann.year/index.html

From MSN Encarta dictionary
ICON
Definition:

1. image of holy person: a holy picture, carving, or statue of Jesus Christ, the Virgin Mary, or a saint, especially an oil painting on a wooden panel, of a type revered in the Eastern Orthodox churches


2. somebody famous for something: somebody or something widely and uncritically admired, especially somebody or something symbolizing a movement or field of activity
the all-time rock'n'roll icon
END QUOTE

[exicutioner151]

The whole midnight church visits and weird ULTRA high-profile freakshows at catholic holy shrines by Team McCann (who had no history of 'devote catholics' prior to May 3rd 2007) is just so freaky.



Hi Pandamania,
Why would u think that is weird ??? arent u familure with the concept "(im big bad and mean , i dont believe in anything but me and what i stand for )" Then goes to prison for some stupid act they did "( oh woe is me oh boo hoo Wait who is that oh my god i found jesus Yea blessed is me im saved , i shall devote my life to jesus )" same bat station same bat channel same concept.

Exicutioner151

[realitycheck]

Did anyone see that inyerview over the weekend, about a couple who had lost there son? I think he might of been found dead.They were so strange and emotionless. I know people suffer from shock but it was really odd the way they was behaving.I thought it was staged.

Btw , my first post.

Find this site very intresting !

hi all.:)

[pandamania]

The incredible lengths McCann Child Neglect World Industries PLC is going to in order to generate this twisted myth that their child is still alive would be comical if not so tragic.

http://static.sky.com/images/pictures/1678507.jpg

It's only a matter of time before Madeline trancends the Bigfoot and Elvis sightings in terms of frequency. Or is seen on Mars in the Hubble telescope the way things are going.

It is also worth bearing in mind that this sick wild goose chase is fully endorsed and even funded by the like of Gordon Brown, Branson, Brian Kennedy, Sir Phillip Green and many others.

[splinterg]

Did anyone see that inyerview over the weekend, about a couple who had lost there son? I think he might of been found dead.They were so strange and emotionless. I know people suffer from shock but it was really odd the way they was behaving.I thought it was staged.

Btw , my first post.

Find this site very intresting !

hi all.:)

Yes although maybe their actions were a little strange the mother did have a point when asked whether she was angry she said something on the lines of "No Im not angry with the person who killed my son..there is too much anger in the world..people need to let go of all this anger"

I think that generally the world needs to chill out take a happy pill or sommat or just kick the tv in and use your minds instead..headhunt the sicko's and burn them..Vote me Ill kick the sicko's out of government give this country back to the people.. Expose the true muppets
and Ill vote for BNP

[diamond dogs]

http://static.sky.com/images/pictures/1678507.jpg

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God she has grown up :eek::eek:

[pandamania]

God she has grown up :eek::eek:


Isn't it just such a classic example of how sick and twisted the media is. Not that we need any further proof of how inhuman the sick world of journalism is, but putting a photo of a dead child next to some tacky porn image.

[pandamania]

The internet backlash against the media fawning of Team McCann is the only thing which kept Robert Murat from becoming a patsy.

I am amazed the powers that be have not shut down the internet considering it is the last bastion of public opinion not filtered and spun by journalists. PR types and wire services.



http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/story.asp ... =41189&c=1

Scotsman apologises to Robert Murat for defamatory Madeline McCann story

16 May 2008

By Patrick Smith

One year after alleging that he had joked about being the “no.1 suspect” in the police hunt for Madeline McCann, The Scotsman has apologised to Robert Murat and admitted publishing defamatory allegations about him.

In April, Murat launched unprecedented legal action against 11 British newspapers and Sky News for stories linking him to the investigation and accusing him of being a prime suspect.

In an apology yesterday the paper said: “On 15 May an article about Robert Murat headed ‘Madeleine: He jokes of being “No.1 suspect”’ was published in which we reported a number of defamatory allegations about Mr Murat in connection with the abduction of Madeleine McCann.

“The article wrongly accused him of ‘hanging around’ the scene in a manner which recalled the Soham murders.

“Likening his behaviour in this way to that of Soham murderer, Ian Huntley, suggested that he was involved in the abduction of Madeleine McCann. It was a seriously defamatory allegation and wholly untrue.”

The apology continued: “We also wrongly implied that he had been unfeeling and insensitive about Madeleine McCann’s disappearance and had lied about his role in the police investigation. That was not our intention.

“We accept that Mr Murat was assisting the police investigation into Madeleine McCann’s disappearance and that his behaviour was entirely proper throughout, and we are happy to make that clear.

“We apologise to Mr Murat for the hurt, distress and damage to his reputation caused by the article.

The Johnston Press-owned paper did not pay out any damages as it only published one story. Other titles including the Sun, Daily and Sunday Mirror, Daily Express and Daily Mail could, however, face large costs and damages.

Murat, who lives in the Portuguses town of Praia de Luz where McCann went missing, came to light after she disappeared in May 2007. He appeared in several articles at the time as someone that was helping police with their inquiries.

He is suing through London solicitors Simon, Muirhead and Burton on a conditional fee arrangement. If successful, he could receive upwards of £2m.

[lightgiver]

Isn't it just such a classic example of how sick and twisted the media is. Not that we need any further proof of how inhuman the sick world of journalism is, but putting a photo of a dead child next to some tacky porn image.

ABSOLUTELY:mad:SICK F$#$%@& ZOMBIE WORLD:eek::mad:

[edelweiss pirate]

ABSOLUTELY:mad:SICK F$#$%@& ZOMBIE WORLD:eek::mad:

Try not to take any notice...

The news is written by psychopaths, edited by psychopaths and usually about psychopaths.....

Fuck it! What has that got to do with me?

Psycho world.... Just walk on by.

[gavinrobinson]

Could this hole thing have been setup in order to obtain more support for micro chipping kids? What do you think?

[lightgiver]

Try not to take any notice...

The news is written by psychopaths, edited by psychopaths and usually about psychopaths.....

Fuck it! What has that got to do with me?

Psycho world.... Just walk on by.
i have never bought a paper in my life and never will,
when i came across this i was appalled:eek:
and it is hard to walk on by when you CARE:)
and i feel sorry for all the missing children in the world,
and all the misery going on in the world:(
i cannot help having a heart of compassion,
i am just a sensitive person who cares,
and i am sure most beings on this forum are, otherwise they would not be here:)
THATS WHY WE ARE HERE....ENIGMA

[655321]

Madeleine was taken has Luz in the name, Praia de Luz, which means Beach of Light.

http://www.glrp.com.pt/images/GM_FT.jpg

The Grande Oriente Lusitano is the larger Portuguese irregular obedience and is comonly ... The Grand Master of our Grand Lodge · Light of the Orient ...

[lightgiver]

Madeleine was taken has Luz in the name, Praia de Luz, which means Beach of Light.

http://www.glrp.com.pt/images/GM_FT.jpg

The Grande Oriente Lusitano is the larger Portuguese irregular obedience and is comonly ... The Grand Master of our Grand Lodge · Light of the Orient ...

WOW:eek:says it all.Good find.

[mariag]

Could this hole thing have been setup in order to obtain more support for micro chipping kids? What do you think?

Exactly What I think

[signalnorth]

The strangest thing reported in the whole case was the item I heard (or read. I forget which) only once that suggested that two of the other women on the holiday trip had also given birth to children within minutes of Kate and at the same hospital. (No idea if this is true or not) I thought it very very weird both in terms of what was said and that it was said at all!

[pepsirat]

What ever has happened their is defantly somthing not wright. I do hope she is ok but i dose not look good

[seanmiller]

I can't get excited about Madeleine McCann... had her parents not been rolling in it, been able to afford to be off work voluntarily for 6 months touring Europe spreading the word, would anybody really have cared?

Now, please, don't get me wrong - I really hope the girl is found (we've had a couple of cases in the last year or so where abducted children are found years later, so there's still hope) - but there are so many children go missing every year and I think the amount of press time given to this ONE without publicising the others was wrong. Had they covered Madeleine with captions showing other missing children I think that would have been a REALLY useful thing, but they never did... they never mentioned any other missing child than this one.

Why because your parents are rich should you be given the privilege of global attention, whereas poorer children just disappear without a fanfare?

Sean

[notthisshitagain]

I can't get excited about Madeleine McCann... had her parents not been rolling in it, been able to afford to be off work voluntarily for 6 months touring Europe spreading the word, would anybody really have cared?

Now, please, don't get me wrong - I really hope the girl is found (we've had a couple of cases in the last year or so where abducted children are found years later, so there's still hope) - but there are so many children go missing every year and I think the amount of press time given to this ONE without publicising the others was wrong. Had they covered Madeleine with captions showing other missing children I think that would have been a REALLY useful thing, but they never did... they never mentioned any other missing child than this one.

Why because your parents are rich should you be given the privilege of global attention, whereas poorer children just disappear without a fanfare?

Sean

I agree with you 100% on this.

[pandamania]

I can't get excited about Madeleine McCann... had her parents not been rolling in it, been able to afford to be off work voluntarily for 6 months touring Europe spreading the word, would anybody really have cared?

Why because your parents are rich should you be given the privilege of global attention, whereas poorer children just disappear without a fanfare?

Sean

Whoa! You are right about the class aspect, but missing the point behind this whole story.

To use your own "Why" from the last paragraph have Kate and Gerry McCann enjoyed a celeb lifestyle and have avoided being arrested via protection of very powerful political and media friends, while if it was a ordinary couple with no eh "connections" they would of been in cuffs within a week?

This is why people remain amazed with this case. Something really stinky in high places is going on here. One would have to be mentally retarded at this stage to believe that Madeline McCann was abducted by a stranger on May 3rd 2007 while her parents got pissed. There was no pedophile abduction and not even a hint of any proof there could be. This is a mythology put out there by her parents and their highly paid and government appointed PR people.

The "abduction" is a ruse to hide the real truth which ranges from anything from her parents killing her, her dying on an accidental overdose of doctor's cocaine while they went swinging, to her dying in an fall while she was left alone.

The fact that people from Gordon Brown to Richard Branson have given unconditional diplomatic, UK taxpayer help and vast private cash sums to "clear the McCann's at any cost" regardless of the fate of a 3 years old child proves what Daivd Icke says about the elite being unbelieveably sick and twisted.

Kate McCann actually stated that the only reason she is a suspect is because she is so beautiful and Portugal hates her for it. That's the psychology of these people. I mean WTF! This is woman who has a missing 3 year old child FFS!

I would go one step further and say I think the Shannon Mathews farce was set up to make the McCann's look more credible and to give the masses a Chav scapegoat family to take their hatred off the wonderful McCanns. "The sainted McCann's who are trying to save the children of the world, but the evil smelly Deigo coppers keep wanting to question them..."

[pandamania]

Within a month of his daughter vanishing off the face of the earth, a "devastated and heartbroken" Dr Gerry McCann gets busy with something he calls "The Wider Agenda"

http://www.mccannfiles.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/zzgerryflipchartd.jpg

[notthisshitagain]

Kate McCann actually stated that the only reason she is a suspect is because she is so beautiful and Portugal hates her for it. That's the psychology of these people. I mean WTF! This is woman who has a missing 3 year old child FFS!


I'll second your "WTF" there. Did she really say that? That's got to be one of the most stupid statements I've ever read.

[gribz]

I can't get excited about Madeleine McCann... had her parents not been rolling in it, been able to afford to be off work voluntarily for 6 months touring Europe spreading the word, would anybody really have cared?

Now, please, don't get me wrong - I really hope the girl is found (we've had a couple of cases in the last year or so where abducted children are found years later, so there's still hope) - but there are so many children go missing every year and I think the amount of press time given to this ONE without publicising the others was wrong. Had they covered Madeleine with captions showing other missing children I think that would have been a REALLY useful thing, but they never did... they never mentioned any other missing child than this one.

Why because your parents are rich should you be given the privilege of global attention, whereas poorer children just disappear without a fanfare?

Sean


Yeah 100% spot on.

Ive always said i feel for the wee girl but this has been a totally different case to any other missing child case ive seen. Since day 1 Gerry has been trying to convince people there actions were not irresponsible!! Yeah ok Gerry - leaving 3 kids under 3 years old in a hotel room in a foreign country is a great idea!!

[tracy dawn]

Just another ploy to instil fear in to the massses, after a respectable amount of time, 2 years? she will be at the heart of a campaign to chip our beautiful children......and like sheep we will have the queing up. My heart goes out to the child and her family, I wonder if all this would evoke the same reaction If Maddy was a dark haird little girl on holiday with a single mother?

[mercuryrapids]

Police 'closing' Madeleine case (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7482799.stm)

[emerald]

On July 1st, Diana's birthday and Canada Day they tell us Maddie's case is closed...

[illuminotti]

It's not closed....more spin spin spin from clarence mitchell, the portugese police are in step 7-11 of the justice system, the end of the investigation, now it gets passed on to prosecutors who decide what charges lay ahead...............21 steps to justice!!!

[steevo]

Within a month of his daughter vanishing off the face of the earth, a "devastated and heartbroken" Dr Gerry McCann gets busy with something he calls "The Wider Agenda"

http://www.mccannfiles.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/zzgerryflipchartd.jpg

Bloody 'ell something so not right here :eek:

[titan]

You only just noticed Steevo? lol

Yes very blatant....although the beaming on the Marble Arch is the most obvious marker in this grand (master) hoax.

[steevo]

You only just noticed Steevo? lol

Yes very blatant....although the beaming on the Marble Arch is the most obvious marker in this grand (master) hoax.

:D lol yeah I just noticed it (the picture above I mean), I already KNOW though that the Madeleine thing is all some sort of sick problem reaction solution stunt, probably to get us to believe in the implanted microchip.

What's the Marble Arch thing that you mentioned titan ?

[qasrose]

omg those drawings he has made, looks alot like the freemason logo


http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/whitesnakeiscool/omg.jpg

[mikey mikey]

The news is written by psychopaths, edited by psychopaths and usually about psychopaths.....

I am not joking when I say that has been clinicaly proven.

BTW mods. Please tidy up the title. No offence but 180 posts and no one corrected this?

[phildee3]

I am not joking when I say that has been clinicaly proven.

BTW mods. Please tidy up the title. No offence but 180 posts and no one corrected this?

That's because "sacrafice" is a hybrid of "sacrament" and "sacrifice"
the suggestion being that that Madeline was a victim of theophagy.

Which is what this thread was all about.

[mikey mikey]

That's because "sacrafice" is a hybrid of "sacrament" and "sacrifice"
the suggestion being that that Madeline was a victim of theophagy.

Which is what this thread was all about.


Etymoligically unsound.
The term sacrament is derived from the Latin sacramentum, meaning "a consecrated thing or act," i.e. "something holy"; '"to consecrate", which itself was a Church Latin translation of the Greek mysterion, meaning "mystery". The latter term is often used by Eastern Christians in preference to "sacrament."

sacrifice (n.)
c.1250, from O.Fr. sacrifise (12c.), from L. sacrificium, from sacrificus "performing priestly functions or sacrifices," from sacra "sacred rites" (prop. neut. pl. of sacer "sacred," see sacred) + root of facere "to do, perform" (see factitious). L. sacrificium is glossed in O.E. by ansegdniss. Sense of "something given up for the sake of another" is first recorded 1592. Baseball sense first attested 1880. The verb is first recorded c.1290.

No reason for a new word


silly silly that you are:p

[phildee3]

sacrifice (n.)
c.1250, from O.Fr. sacrifise (12c.), from L. sacrificium, from sacrificus "performing priestly functions or sacrifices," from sacra "sacred rites" (prop. neut. pl. of sacer "sacred," see sacred) + root of facere "to do, perform" (see factitious). L. sacrificium is glossed in O.E. by ansegdniss. Sense of "something given up for the sake of another" is first recorded 1592. Baseball sense first attested 1880. The verb is first recorded c.1290.

No reason for a new word



Correct, - if the c.1250 meaning is understood.
Trouble is, everyone understands the word in the post 1592 sense.

[who elsie]

omg those drawings he has made, looks alot like the freemason logo


http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/whitesnakeiscool/omg.jpg

This could be a very revealing picture. It is a very unnatural way of drawing a diamond shape, with the upper section intersecting the lower. Looks very deliberate. This can't be just coincidence that it exactly imitates the freemasonry symbol. And encompassing the phrase, 'The wider agenda' ? No such thing as coincidence, as far as I am concerned.

[phildee3]

Dear Mods,
I am of the opinion that magicmerlin's original use of the word "sacrafice" was quite creative. It has inspired many imaginitive hypotheses, in the search for the truth of Maddie's disappearance, from contributors to this thread.

I respect the right of mikeymikey to think me "silly silly," or to think magicmerlin is ignorant (in the spelling department), but neither he nor you have the right to "correct" what he wrote.
None of us know if it was intentional or not, but that is irrelevent. We do not have the right to edit another's work without their permission.
The correct way to "correct" the situation is to add [sic] to magicmerlin's title "Madeline Sacrafice."

[qasrose]

I am not joking when I say that has been clinicaly proven.

BTW mods. Please tidy up the title. No offence but 180 posts and no one corrected this?

There is nothing wrong with the title, Madeline was Sacrificed and to be honest I don't think the title should be changed. Let's keep on topic people.

[phildee3]

I don't think the title should be changed.



Which one?
magicmerlin's original or the new one?

[mikey mikey]

sorry sorry sorry sorry

I didn't mean to offend. I just thought it was a friggin typo. Christ knows I do enough of them. It's Ok to make mistakes, you know.. and the "silly silly" was meant to be affectionate.


I mean, are we so far from trust? What have they done to us to seperate us so?


BOT

Fleet Street is the shop window of Hell.

[phildee3]

sorry sorry sorry sorry



That's ok.
There are higher, positive forces at work and perhaps this has all happened to bring back the notion that theophagy is being practiced amongst the elite, as David has claimed for years. The vast majority of people still can't accept that, even here.
Adding [sic] to magicmerlin's original title will help make people think on the possibility.

Do you agree?

[qasrose]

Which one?
magicmerlin's original or the new one?

the new one.

[phildee3]

the new one.

Do you not think that theophagy is being practiced by the elite?
Do you not think that people shouild consider that it may be possible?

To suggest that Madeline was simply sacrificed (eg. given up by her parents) is to bury one's head in the sand, imo.

What happened to her then?

What is "the wider agenda"?

[qasrose]

Do you not think that theophagy is being practiced by the elite?
Do you not think that people shouild consider that it may be possible?

To suggest that Madeline was simply sacrificed (eg. given up by her parents) is to bury one's head in the sand, imo.

What happened to her then?

What is "the wider agenda"?

Why are you asking me these questions?? I don't know what happened to her because I was not there, And I do not know what the wider agenda is do you?. Do you know what really happened to her?. People can suggest anything that want. That is what this board is all about.

[phildee3]

People can suggest anything that want. That is what this board is all about.

magicmerlin suggested that she was a victim of thophagy by using the hybrid word "sacrafice" (consciously or subconciously).

To edit his work is to censor his contribution!


And should the moderators "correct" all unconventional spellings on all threads?

What about punctuation?

Am I beginning to smell the stench of totalitarianism here?

[qasrose]

magicmerlin suggested that she was a victim of thophagy by using the hybrid word "sacrafice" (consciously or subconciously).

To edit his work is to censor his contribution!


And should the moderators "correct" all unconventional spellings on all threads?

What about punctuation?

Am I beginning to smell the stench of totalitarianism here?

Why should moderators correct all spellings on all threads? It's up to the original poster to make sure his/hers spelling mistakes are corrected. And the edit button is there to fix that mistake. And we are going off topic here, please can we keep it on topic.

[phildee3]

Why should moderators correct all spellings on all threads?



Why should they "correct" this one (and this one only)?



It's up to the original poster to make sure his/hers spelling mistakes are corrected.



How do you know this was a mistake?



...we are going off topic here, please can we keep it on topic.



You mean the new topic; - sacrifice (excluding theophagy).

Nice and cleaned up.
No blood. No pedophilia. Nice queenie caring about all her subjects.

Is this really a David Icke forum??

[qasrose]

Why should they "correct" this one (and this one only)?



How do you know this was a mistake?



You mean the new topic; - sacrifice (excluding theophagy).

Nice and cleaned up.
No blood. No pedophilia. Nice queenie caring about all her subjects.

Is this really a David Icke forum??

What is your point??

[phildee3]

What is your point??

To expose the (possible?) practice of theophagy amongst the elite.

[montag]

Al rite, I've rein STATE d the origin Al spell ing of the tit le so un Thai UR Nick RS evry 1 & letz git bah K on TOP Icke!

Monday(montag)

[phildee3]

Al rite, I've rein STATE d the origin Al spell ing of the tit le so un Thai UR Nick RS evry 1 & letz git bah K on TOP Icke!

Monday(montag)

Thanks, montag.
If you add [sic] to it, everyone should be happy.

[qasrose]

ok awesome :D

[magicmerlin]

Looks like my spelling has caused quite a stir on this thread! It was an error and should have been 'sacrifice'. However, as far as I'm aware my mis-spelling is just just that - the common mis-spelling of 'sacrifice' (according to every dictionary I can find).

[phildee3]

Looks like my spelling has caused quite a stir on this thread! It was an error and should have been 'sacrifice'. However, as far as I'm aware my mis-spelling is just just that - the common mis-spelling of 'sacrifice' (according to every dictionary I can find).

Thanks for clarifying that, mm.
I did ask you once but you didn't answer.

I think your mis-spelling inspired my signature (below).
Cheers; and thanks for the thread.

[onourwayto2012]

I mean, are we so far from trust? What have they done to us to seperate us so?
Mikey Mikey..... what is the meaning of this word "sePERate"?

[emerald]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1032714/Kate-McCanns-tearful-witness-begging-evidence-revealed-couple-make-legal-bid-police-files.html
Keeping the mascarade alive...

[phildee3]

Keeping the mascarade alive...

...and so it shall be until there is closure.

...and that can only happen after we see Elizabeth "Windsor" in the dock!

[pri01]

Interesting bullitin this morning on one of the UK local radio station in Liverpool. The news item was talking about the McCanns wanting access to their investigation records, but they referred to Madeleine in the strory as the missing '5 year old'. She was 3 when she disappeared?

[illuminotti]

She'll be back, found safe and well.......it'll be a bit like the second coming, the return of the sacred female, all part of the agenda!!

[mikey mikey]

I mean, are we so far from trust? What have they done to us to seperate us so?
Mikey Mikey..... what is the meaning of this word "sePERate"?

It means you can't spell.

BTW; I don't buy factual relativism.


Besides ANY dictionary:


Usage:

270,000,000 results separate
33,800,000 results seperate

Etymology:

From the Latin separatus

But I just can't wait for your take. Ho ho ho.

[jingokaz]

http://www.mccannfiles.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/zzgerryflipchartd.jpg

I don't get it.
__________________
http://www.gogoplat.com/bess.jpg

[illuminotti]

jingo, read the thread you will GET it!!

[goldman]

For sure, the number 33 pops up everywhere, even in this case. coincidence? I don't think so. 33 still means the sign for other members involved in the rite of the "Killing of the King", where 322 is it's hit-squat.

You really can't make this up, it pops up everywhere. And they have to prove their involved by giving members a sign, 3, 13, 33.

This case stinks, with so much media attention it's judge unthinkable that a child goes unnoticed. Look at other cases of missing children, most of them are found either dead or alive in a relative short time-span without much media attention.

[onourwayto2012]

It means you can't spell.

BTW; I don't buy factual relativism.


Besides ANY dictionary:


Usage:

270,000,000 results separate
33,800,000 results seperate

Etymology:

From the Latin separatus

But I just can't wait for your take. Ho ho ho.

Well darn...I THOUGHT I was being funny since you mentioned typos in that post.... but hey what do I know? I sure don't know what factual relativism is. I did think I could spell though cuz I won the school spelling bee in sixth grade. So yeah...what IS factual relativism?

[onourwayto2012]

http://www.sutor.com/newsite/blog-open/?p=1541 This guy can't spell either.....idiot....GOSH! OK mikey I'm all done now.

[mikey mikey]

http://www.sutor.com/newsite/blog-open/?p=1541 This guy can't spell either.....idiot....GOSH!

No he CAN spell,

From your link

http://www.sutor.com/newsite/blog-open/?p=1541


“Seperate” is just wrong. The word is spelled s-e-p-a-r-a-t-e.

My mom always told me the remember “a rat” in “separate.” Works for me

But you wrote

Mikey Mikey..... what is the meaning of this word "sePERate"?

So you can neither spell nor remember.


OK mikey I'm all done now.

Is that like skinchees?

So thank you for admitting I was right despite yourself.

Silly billy that you are!

[notthisshitagain]

The hell, can't you get off from each other's necks for a second here? I thought this thread was about that little girl? If it's not, it should be renamed to "Spelling Bee Contest" or something...:rolleyes:

[limelady]

Yes, please stay on topic folks.

As long as you know what a poster means, the odd spelling mistake here or there is non-important and need not be debated to the point where it takes threads off-topic.

Thanks all. :)

[onourwayto2012]

Sorry....no more off topic space wasting. Now about this "sacrafice"....... just kidding... no more.

[hawk]

I watched from over here in America about this child. It seems that the authorities were up to their eyeballs in this somehow, white washing it all.
I also have some shocking news for everyone. Jon Benet Ramsey's father,mother,and her brother are no longer considered suspects because according to the DA they have done some new DNA testing and have apparently found new DNA evidence that belongs to someone else.Though they will not say who. It was announced on the CNN New just 2 days ago.
And to think, that man, John Ramsey is now personally involved with another missing girl"s mother. I thought it was very odd.

To me, there are more Satanists alive and afoot than ever before.
These are dangerous times for everyone.
:eek:

[notthisshitagain]

I watched from over here in America about this child. It seems that the authorities were up to their eyeballs in this somehow, white washing it all.
I also have some shocking news for everyone. Jon Benet Ramsey's father,mother,and her brother are no longer considered suspects because according to the DA they have done some new DNA testing and have apparently found new DNA evidence that belongs to someone else.Though they will not say who. It was announced on the CNN New just 2 days ago.
And to think, that man, John Ramsey is now personally involved with another missing girl"s mother. I thought it was very odd.

To me, there are more Satanists alive and afoot than ever before.
These are dangerous times for everyone.
:eek:

Yup, I saw the Ramsey's stuff on CNN... this is very suspicious... I guess we can follow the news and see what happens... Personally, I don't really think Jon Benet's family did it directly, but more like.. they were involved somehow.. that's what my gut feeling tells me.

[brenbren]

first time i've seen tptb related to the madeline case.

never looked at the topic anyway, but i guess there was too much press coverage on the topic.

[cacadores]

It's been something of a taboo here, but I haven't heard much mention of the fact that the parents left this little girl on her own at night with two younger siblings. Of all the horrible emotions that the mother would be going through and she hasn't mentioned the guilt?
She did mention her feelings of guilt. As I understand it, they were in a holiday area and they were just a few yards from her

[pandamania]

Appartently the McCann's are telling the entire British media (and like the masonic salivating dogs they are rejoycing) that Gerry and Kate McCann will be "cleared" tomorrow.

Mind you, this probably means that if they havn't been charged they are as pure as the driven snow. Even the shocking neglect of their children is proof of their wonderfulness.

More than ever this is part of the chipping agenda. I see it as nothing else. I also suspect the Shannon Mathews story was a diversion of some kind.

Wonder how long before Gerry and Kate McCann get their knighthoods.

[lightworks]

Good work, I'll certainly look further into this today.

Does anyone know what the medical condition affecting her eye actually is? I haven't seen anything like it before. And that 'LOOK' banner from Sky is disturbing, to say the least.

I'm actually starting to see a big and horribly sinister conspiracy occuring with these missing girls in the UK, I'm going to compile a more comprehensive report and post it up later today.
Is it not clear then that the answer must be
To switch off
The TV?
and then how exactly
shall they program us?
does that
make any sense
to any of you?
switch off the sources
and move away
from the sources
of mass disiniformation
and subliminal
ass n mind control
makes sense when you think
about
it really

[lightworks]

but there is also a another level of perception
how about we just get a big fuck off gun
and shoot al;ll these paedophiles?

[endlessvista]

The case has been dropped about an hour ago due to lack of evidence on Gerry and Kate McCann. That's not the same thing as them being completely innocent.

No doubt this will lead to the chipping. But to be fair the Portugal police stated that they beleive the child met a violent end and the body was hidden and the crime scene corrupted. It's just that they do not have the evidence to pin in on the Emotionally Fraglie Joggers. No doubt a press conference will be set up were drawings of imaginary abductors will be shown to the cameras by the "cleared and innocent" McCanns. *PUKE*

SkyNEWS will be wiping the semen off their desks.

Tell your children to be ready for "Charlie the Circuit - The Freind in Your Shoulder!"...

It reminds me of the Lady Di thing. How her sainthood and image was used to mask the bizarre circumstances surrounding her death. Give the masses a superficial emotional bone and the media will feed it to them everytime.

[cosmicstardust]

Anyone see Flo and Kay?

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Pasted this from a different thread because of the Madelaine thing at the end. Wonder if anyone has any thoughts.....

Did anyone in UK watch the Extraordinary People doc last night about identical twins Flo and Kay? They are American autistic savants - got the most amazing ability to remember music, dates etc. I thought it was interesting that when asked how they remember stuff they said its like they have a computer chip in their head and that they believe they are human computers. This was interesting to me as I am re-reading The Global Conspiracy and am on the chapter that describes the human computer. And the expert on the prog said that until we understand the savant brain we will not understand the human brain because they are expressions of what is truly possible.
Also as a weird observation, these two women had irises like Madelaine McCann - you know her keyhole-shaped left iris? Odd......
Anyway,just wanted to share that.
Happy Thursday to one and all

[americana]

Anyone see Flo and Kay?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pasted this from a different thread because of the Madelaine thing at the end. Wonder if anyone has any thoughts.....

Did anyone in UK watch the Extraordinary People doc last night about identical twins Flo and Kay? They are American autistic savants - got the most amazing ability to remember music, dates etc. I thought it was interesting that when asked how they remember stuff they said its like they have a computer chip in their head and that they believe they are human computers. This was interesting to me as I am re-reading The Global Conspiracy and am on the chapter that describes the human computer. And the expert on the prog said that until we understand the savant brain we will not understand the human brain because they are expressions of what is truly possible.
Also as a weird observation, these two women had irises like Madelaine McCann - you know her keyhole-shaped left iris? Odd......
Anyway,just wanted to share that.
Happy Thursday to one and all


Was Madeleine autistic - - this team of Dutch investigators says that she is - -

http://www.strongwood.net/news/07-08-2007-1525.asp

Strongwood investigates Madeleine McCann case
august 7, 2007

A special missing person team of Investigations Company Strongwood has been investigating the Madeleine McCann case as of the end of June. The team was hired by a group of more than 105.000 Dutch citizens to do this investigation at only the costs of research.

The team has conducted an intensive preliminary analysis based on all the facts, scenarios, information, leads, broadcastings of interviews and images received by tested clairvoyance from the Netherlands and USA.


On the 31 of July the Team wend to Praia da Luz to investigate and conclude if al findings where possible. The team was formed of three detectives, a child expert in special children with a disorder, and a tested person with special abilities.


It became clear that the scenario of what might have happened became closer and closer to the leads this team was heading to. Because the media was watching the investigation team of the Portuguese police with two British investigators and well trained dogs, the Strongwood team could do their research without intervention.


While profiling involved people and researching our facts the team concluded that Madeleine could have been died before 19:00 we also found that Madeleine is a kid with a disability (autistic) which could explain her behavior and explain some witness declarations. The dogs of the British police marked the dead of the child in the apartment with traces of found blood. If death is marked than the child must have been death in that apartment for a couple of hours. Our team thinks she is moved from there with a white combi/transit vehicle to a beach location, while dumping the body into the sea. The person who has been seen walking with a child is a contradiction, but because one of the friends stated this witness declaration she would have recognize the child as Madeleine.


We are convinced she has been given to the ocean and our (oceanic) calculations of May were slightly off course due to miscalculated temperatures and currencies onsite. These calculations have to be done again to indicate the course of a body in the ocean; we are also calculating a possible time of dissolution and take into account animals eating of the body. We have a few possible marked places we already checked and checked, but maybe we where to early as the indication now are end of August beginning of September.


We are convinced that the body has been dropped into the sea at the rocks on the left of the beach. The images who were received from our special person (in May, June, July and onsite) are in-line with the facts an also indicate what we expected.


What is happened is not sure, our calculations and facts indicated a possible time of dead or as much as a time she was already dead. If this had happened inside the apartment it indicates a possibility that resort employees, the McCann’s or their friends, or one of them knew this. Also the fact that the place could have been cleaned points in that direction.


Robert Murat has been seen on the evening/night of the 3rd the question is was he at home on the time he stated to the police. Our investigation leads in no way to this suspect other than that Murat could have done some things he didn’t want the police finding out before Madeleine even disappeared.
We had contacts with the Portuguese police and attended them on our investigation but as the new team with the British was formed, all communications channels where closed. We have tried to get our team in contact with the British investigators leading the portages team but we could not reach them at different times or where busy investigating.


Our team had to leave Portugal because we ran out of money which was gathered by the large group of people who hired us.


Back home we started to gather all information and findings of our investigation in Portugal and we are now investigation all this information and concentrating on the questions it gives. We are also watching the given statements on video by the McCann’s for psychological profiling. There are some indications that signals are not in the right context.

[alienspirit]

Just my thoughts...

A young, single, unemployed mum living on a large council estate left her 2 year old home alone to go on a night out.

Next door made a complaint to the police, the police broke in and recovered the kid, no harm had come to him/her, the kid was taken into social care and the girl got charged with something (neglect I think)

Shes just recently been taken to court for it, it was all over the local paper, she got 3 years, thats 3 years for leaving her kid home alone while she went out, she also said she had a friend looking after the kid while she was out, and didnt know how he/she came to be home alone.

My question is, Why havent the emotionally fragile joggers been charged with neglect. (this is a serious question)

I think this is a clear case of double standards, it makes a joke of the law and as a result I don't have much respect for the legal system.

single unemployed mum, has a friend looking after the kid, goes out, kid gets found alone covered in shit... she gets 3 years...

mccanns leave 3 kids on there own and have friends check on them every now and then, 1 kids gets taken and never found... and they get a new business out of it...

The mccanns need to be charged, they need to have the other 2 kids taken away and placed somewhere that will look after them properly, if not fuck them, and fuck the legal system and if you think they shouldnt, fuck you...

[endlessvista]

http://www.thebulletin.us/site/index.cfm?newsid=19820607&BRD=2737&PAG=461&dept_id=576361&rfi=8

Gerry and Kate McCann Are Still Guilty!
By: Chris Freind, The Bulletin
07/02/2008

Well, it's official. Gerry and Kate McCann have become the Ramseys of Europe. Just as the Christmastime murder of six year old JonBenet Ramsey went officially unsolved, it appears that resolving the disappearance and probable death of five year old Madeleine McCann will suffer the same fate.

That is a terrible shame for three reasons.

First and foremost, a little girl is, in all likelihood, dead, and justice will not be served. The daughter of two British doctors, Madeleine disappeared from a Portuguese beachside resort in May 2007 while she slept. While statements have been made, ad nauseum, by Gerry, Kate and their vaunted PR machine that Maddy was kidnapped, there is absolutely no evidence to substantiate this claim. Of course, there wouldn't be any debate whether Maddy was in fact kidnapped if Gerry and Kate had exercised even a fraction of something called parenting. Which leads us to point # 2.

As "Freindly Fire" has stated emphatically in numerous columns, the McCanns are guilty, period. Of this, there is no doubt. They are possibly guilty of harming Madeleine, accidentally or otherwise, as many Portuguese investigators believe. But, at the least, they are definitely guilty of negligence and, the case can be made, of child abandonment.

You see, what the bought-and-paid-for British media simply glosses over is the fact that the McCanns left their three children, with a combined age of seven, alone in their resort room, at night, on numerous occasions that week. Call me crazy, but that's not just selfish, it's unconscionably irresponsible. They chose paella over the kids. Now I've been to the Algarve, and the paella there is even better than that in Spain, but it's not quite good enough that I would abandon my kids. If the McCanns had taken their children with them, brought a nanny from home, or used the resort's babysitting service, one thing is sure: Madeleine would not have disappeared that night.

But taking personal responsibility is not something the McCanns feel they have to do. It's hard to look in the mirror, so Gerry and Kate figured out that it's much easier to just blame everyone and everything else. Just listen to their spokesman, Clarence Mitchell: "If it's true the police are about to shelve this case, on the one hand that will be welcome because it means that Kate and Gerry will be seen to be the innocent couple that they are - they are innocent of any involvement in Madeleine's disappearance and have been since Day One - and this wrongly-imposed arguido (suspect) status must be lifted..."

Innocent of any involvement? Clarence, how do you sleep at night?

They are guilty and should be held accountable. Showing Gerry and Kate's "remorse" on television (and that remorse is debatable), still doesn't absolve them from their crimes. Why aren't they being charged, either in Portugal and/or Britain?

Probably because we don't like to punish celebrities. And the McCanns have created a huge cause celebre. Remember, these globe-trotting celebrities had an audience with the Pope, met with America's First Lady, and are seen as "ambassadors" for kidnapped children everywhere. If that's what it takes to become an international star, I'll be more than happy to remain obscure.

The royal treatment of the McCanns sends the horrendous message that it's OK to be negligent and greedy, even if it means exposing children to harm, as long as you have good barristers, lots of money, and the best marketing firms money can buy---especially if that money comes from well-wishers not familiar with the true facts of the case.

But worst of all, when leaders in our society welcome people like the McCanns with open arms instead of shedding light on their abhorrent behavior, it condones a mentality that breaking laws---whether laws of the state or laws of morality and common sense--- is acceptable, as long as you look good in front of a camera.

And who can forget the British media and its journalistic "integrity"? Not only did it blindly defend the McCanns and blame the Portuguese for everything, but it failed to conduct even a modicum of investigation to ascertain what really happened to Madeleine. Inconsistencies abound, both in media reports and in statements given by the McCanns and the friends they dined with that night. But hard-hitting questions and thorough research were, and still are, in short supply. To top it off, once the McCanns were named as suspects last September, the British media turned on them and all but pronounced their guilt. Now that charges will not be forthcoming, the tune has changed yet again. The McCanns were innocent all along!

Sticking a wet finger in the air to see which way the wind is blowing is something that should be left to the politicians, but it has no place in the media.

As stated in the past, Freindly Fire has never accused the McCanns of killing their daughter, and they are entitled to the presumption of innocence in that regard until a court of law can prove differently. But not so with the negligence they have shown. For the sake of Maddy and all the other children potentially at risk because of such criminal behavior, the McCanns should be charged.

Anything less would be a disservice to Madeleine McCann.


Chris Freind can be reached at CF@TheBulletin.us

[rixxmixxhell]

That poll is completely wrong. The chip is correct, but what does it have to do with Madleine, it shouldve read.:

It is designed for the chip?
or was it unrelated?

If you think its not for the chip but think they still exist, how can you answer it???

Rick

[gribz]

Just my thoughts...

A young, single, unemployed mum living on a large council estate left her 2 year old home alone to go on a night out.

Next door made a complaint to the police, the police broke in and recovered the kid, no harm had come to him/her, the kid was taken into social care and the girl got charged with something (neglect I think)

Shes just recently been taken to court for it, it was all over the local paper, she got 3 years, thats 3 years for leaving her kid home alone while she went out, she also said she had a friend looking after the kid while she was out, and didnt know how he/she came to be home alone.

My question is, Why havent the emotionally fragile joggers been charged with neglect. (this is a serious question)

I think this is a clear case of double standards, it makes a joke of the law and as a result I don't have much respect for the legal system.

single unemployed mum, has a friend looking after the kid, goes out, kid gets found alone covered in shit... she gets 3 years...

mccanns leave 3 kids on there own and have friends check on them every now and then, 1 kids gets taken and never found... and they get a new business out of it...

The mccanns need to be charged, they need to have the other 2 kids taken away and placed somewhere that will look after them properly, if not fuck them, and fuck the legal system and if you think they shouldnt, fuck you...

Well said that man!!!

[mariag]

Just my thoughts...

A young, single, unemployed mum living on a large council estate left her 2 year old home alone to go on a night out.

Next door made a complaint to the police, the police broke in and recovered the kid, no harm had come to him/her, the kid was taken into social care and the girl got charged with something (neglect I think)

Shes just recently been taken to court for it, it was all over the local paper, she got 3 years, thats 3 years for leaving her kid home alone while she went out, she also said she had a friend looking after the kid while she was out, and didnt know how he/she came to be home alone.

My question is, Why havent the emotionally fragile joggers been charged with neglect. (this is a serious question)

I think this is a clear case of double standards, it makes a joke of the law and as a result I don't have much respect for the legal system.

single unemployed mum, has a friend looking after the kid, goes out, kid gets found alone covered in shit... she gets 3 years...

mccanns leave 3 kids on there own and have friends check on them every now and then, 1 kids gets taken and never found... and they get a new business out of it...

The mccanns need to be charged, they need to have the other 2 kids taken away and placed somewhere that will look after them properly, if not fuck them, and fuck the legal system and if you think they shouldnt, fuck you...

Don´t you see it? The single mum has no social net , noone to stand by her side and absolutley no economy to buy her out of trouble . But the Mc Canns
does. They have money , they have status , they have a reputation .
This is how the naughty system works.
;)

[americana]

If this were all about the microchip, wouldn't Sean and Amelie have gotten it?

And this historic event would have been splashed all over the papers.

Hmmmm.

Whaddya think?

[endlessvista]

If this were all about the microchip, wouldn't Sean and Amelie have gotten it?

And this historic event would have been splashed all over the papers.

Hmmmm.

Whaddya think?

Have you forgotten the McCann's at the EU and the TV special on their child protection measures being adopted at EU level? That's all still on-going. They were invited by some British MEP.

Gerry McCanns also made some mysterious trips to the USA to promote the eh "abduction" but never went near the main media centres of New York, LA, Atlanta and instead went to Washington DC which apart from a quick behind closed doors visit to the WHite House (which is utterly bizzare in itself) they did nothing else.

What the hell was it about Washington DC that the McCann's were obsessed with visiting it and no other USA city?

[americana]

Have you forgotten the McCann's at the EU and the TV special on their child protection measures being adopted at EU level? That's all still on-going. They were invited by some British MEP.

Gerry McCanns also made some mysterious trips to the USA to promote the eh "abduction" but never went near the main media centres of New York, LA, Atlanta and instead went to Washington DC which apart from a quick behind closed doors visit to the WHite House (which is utterly bizzare in itself) they did nothing else.

What the hell was it about Washington DC that the McCann's were obsessed with visiting it and no other USA city?

Good point.

The other day on TV there was something about a little girl who has been missing in Florida for over a month. Authorities were digging in the backyard of the home where she lived with her mother and grandparents.

Either it was the mayor of the town, or the chief policeman was saying that this was NOT an Amber Alert case, that not every case can be, for whatever reason this little girl's disappearance didn't meet the criteria. The Amber Alert is the much-hyped goal of what the McCanns supposedly hope to accomplish in the EU. I wonder if this Amber Alert thing really does any good . . .

Great point about the Washington trip!

[phildee3]

What The Hell Was It About Washington Dc That The Mccann's Were Obsessed With Visiting It And No Other Usa City?



Bush and queen leaving the dining room after eating "spring lamb," four days after Maddie's disappearance:

1994

Spring lamb is born in the spring; eaten in summer.

[pri01]

Good point.

The other day on TV there was something about a little girl who has been missing in Florida for over a month. Authorities were digging in the backyard of the home where she lived with her mother and grandparents.

Either it was the mayor of the town, or the chief policeman was saying that this was NOT an Amber Alert case, that not every case can be, for whatever reason this little girl's disappearance didn't meet the criteria. The Amber Alert is the much-hyped goal of what the McCanns supposedly hope to accomplish in the EU. I wonder if this Amber Alert thing really does any good . . .

Great point about the Washington trip!


I distinctly remember Gerry saying that hopefully they will give something tangeable for all children.

[lightworks]

I hope these pictures are in keeping with this thread..this is the latest illuminati blonde haire blue eyed child abduction story omg look how similair this latest"abductee" is and its a ROCKEFELLER....sorry to harp on but this is so in your face..http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1039635/Spotter-plane-ocean-manhunt-missing-London-Rockefeller-girl-snatched-father-multiple-identities.html

so heres clarke rockefellers daughter who hes has supposedly abducted
2009
and heres madeleine mcann

2010

I surpass myself with shock and sickness people

[americana]

I hope these pictures are in keeping with this thread..this is the latest illuminati blonde haire blue eyed child abduction story omg look how similair this latest"abductee" is and its a ROCKEFELLER....sorry to harp on but this is so in your face..http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1039635/Spotter-plane-ocean-manhunt-missing-London-Rockefeller-girl-snatched-father-multiple-identities.html

so heres clarke rockefellers daughter who hes has supposedly abducted
2009
and heres madeleine mcann

2010

I surpass myself with shock and sickness people

Yes, I posted a story about this in Tintin's famous "News" thread.

However, it would SEEM that this man is not indeed related to "THE" Rockefellers. Is he an impostor, like Christopher Rocancourt?

It's interesting that the mother works for McKinsey, the consulting firm.

They seem to be very high-profile people!


If anyone looks at the Mail on Sunday link here, the little girl is sitting on a statue from the famous "Make Way for Ducklings" statue in the Boston Public Garden. This bronze statue in 9 parts, showing the mother duck with her ducklings, is inspired by the famous Caldecott-award winning book, Robert Mc Closkey's "Make Way for Ducklings".

A copy of the statue was also given by Barbara Bush to Raisa Gorbachev as a gift to the children of the Soviet Union. It is in a park in Moscow.

[endlessvista]

so heres clarke rockefellers daughter who hes has supposedly abducted
Attachment 2009
and heres madeleine mcann

Attachment 2010

I surpass myself with shock and sickness people


Have they started a business from the lounge of a private jet yet?

[lightworks]

Have they started a business from the lounge of a private jet yet?laughing I am listening to this...I am learning this..on guitar..then Im gonna pull up in front of the white house on a truck...and sing " well its raining down with paedophiles..."
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xa04ifCum-Q

[mariag]

I hope these pictures are in keeping with this thread..this is the latest illuminati blonde haire blue eyed child abduction story omg look how similair this latest"abductee" is and its a ROCKEFELLER....sorry to harp on but this is so in your face..http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1039635/Spotter-plane-ocean-manhunt-missing-London-Rockefeller-girl-snatched-father-multiple-identities.html

so heres clarke rockefellers daughter who hes has supposedly abducted
2009
and heres madeleine mcann

2010

I surpass myself with shock and sickness people

Seems almost like the same child .

[hashmcgandy]

i noticed this yesterday while reading an article on the BBC news site, look at here left eye, pretty odd :

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42925000/jpg/_42925083_madeleine_pa_203_b.jpg

First off, please excuse me for coming in late into this discussion but I think there is something that needs to be cleared up regarding the strange shape of the girl's pupil. This is a 'slipped' or 'keyhole' pupil; to give it the correct medical term - a Coloboma and nowadays such a small aberation can be corrected if caught early enough. It is comparatively rare, affecting approx 1 in 100,000 children and usually female but does not adversely affect the eyesight.

I have met three girls with this condition in my life, not all of them blue eyed blondes either so thought I should mention this as this condition (coloboma) probably has little or no bearing on the disappearance of the little girl. Its just an abnormality, that's all.

Hope this helps.

[jock1056]

but there is also a another level of perception
how about we just get a big fuck off gun
and shoot al;ll these paedophiles?

Big guns and shooting does not work .

[gribz]

The bits on bold annoys me on how these people get away with everything. They are guilty of negligence at the least!!!

First paragraph is a turn around to clear them, sniffer dogs know what they are doing!!

And now the case is closed???!!! WTF, when someone goes missing the case remains open for decades, why on earth would the case be closed now. There is absolutely ZERO leads to her been taken.

A UK expert warned DNA in a car hired by the parents of missing Madeleine McCann was "inconclusive" before they became suspects, it has been revealed.

Forensic scientist John Lowe said the sample contained 15 out of 19 components of Madeleine's DNA which were not "unique to her".

His e-mail was in thousands of pages of evidence gathered by Portuguese detectives which have been made public.

Madeleine vanished, aged three, on a holiday in the Algarve, on 3 May 2007.

The papers make clear that Kate and Gerry McCann - no longer suspects - came under suspicion following a visit to Portugal by UK detectives last August.

Portuguese police cited DNA evidence as grounds for their suspicions.

Kate and Gerry McCann's spokesman Clarence Mitchell said police had told Mr McCann during interrogation that his missing daughter's DNA had been found in the boot of the car - hired 24 days after her disappearance.

The investigation papers show a sniffer dog detected the apparent odour of a body in their hire car and apartment, but tests on a sample from the car were inconclusive.

The police inquiry into her disappearance was wound up because of a lack of evidence last month.

Kate and Gerry McCann and a third British national, Robert Murat, were declared to be no longer formal suspects when the police closed the case. The McCanns and Mr Murat, 34, always strongly denied having had any involvement in what happened to Madeleine.

Lawyers for the McCanns, both 40, from Rothley, Leicestershire, were given access to the documents last week.

They are studying the papers for fresh leads that the couple's private detectives could follow up.

Clarence Mitchell, told the BBC: "One of the great frustrations for Kate and Gerry, through all this, was that they just didn't get any information from the Portuguese of any real note at all.

"Now there is a chance to analyse this, and if there's anything that needs priority action in terms of finding Madeleine.

"Such as was this area searched or not? Was there another sighting in a certain place, or not?

"All of that will be moved on quickly. But Kate and Gerry themselves are not fully aware of the mass of detail yet, they're waiting for the lawyers to tell them in due course."

Some 20,000 pages of evidence were released on Monday to journalists who had made a formal request to prosecutors, including the BBC.

The sniffer dog's apparent detection of the odour of a body was followed by a second dog detecting what was thought to be blood in the same locations.

The BBC's Steve Kingstone said the documents showed an initial report from Britain's forensic science service saying the samples indicated some compatibility with the components of Madeleine's DNA.

However the laboratory did not draw firm conclusions and stressed that the samples contained the DNA of more than one person.

In an e-mail dated 3 September 2007, John Lowe of the major incidents team of the Forensic Science Service (FSS) said it was impossible to conclude whether the material taken from the car came from Madeleine.
The McCanns want to follow any leads that come from the police documents

The e-mail was translated into Portuguese the following day and four days later Portuguese detectives named the McCanns arguidos - formal suspects - citing DNA evidence as grounds for their suspicions.

In his message to Detective Superintendent Stuart Prior, head of the British side of the inquiry, Mr Lowe said a sample from the boot of the McCanns' hire car, which they rented 24 days after Madeleine went missing, contained 15 out of 19 of her DNA components.

But he cautioned that this result - based on the controversial "low copy number" DNA analysis technique which uses very small samples - was "too complex for meaningful interpretation or inclusion".

The expert said the components of the missing girl's DNA profile were not unique to her - in fact some were present among FSS scientists, including himself.

"We cannot answer the question: is the match genuine, or is it a chance match," he wrote.

Subsequent interview transcripts reveal that Kate McCann was asked directly: "Did you have anything to do with the disappearance of your daughter?"

She refused to answer this and dozens of other questions, as was her legal right.

[americana]

Subsequent interview transcripts reveal that Kate McCann was asked directly: "Did you have anything to do with the disappearance of your daughter?"

She refused to answer this and dozens of other questions, as was her legal right.

A plain and simple "NO" would have done.

Well, if that were the truth.

[illuminotti]

question 41......did you at any point decide to hand over guardianship of madeleine to a relative?.....
i have on good authority that madeleine was considered for adoption in 2006, the social worker who talked them out of it hasn't slept since she disappeared, which is more than i can say for the parents!!

Peadophile rumours of one of the tapas 9 are surfacing too!! you guys need to read truth of the lie by the investigator in charge, it's over at www.mccannfiles.com.....

[pheony]

question 41......did you at any point decide to hand over guardianship of madeleine to a relative?.....
i have on good authority that madeleine was considered for adoption in 2006, the social worker who talked them out of it hasn't slept since she disappeared, which is more than i can say for the parents!!

Peadophile rumours of one of the tapas 9 are surfacing too!! you guys need to read truth of the lie by the investigator in charge, it's over at www.mccannfiles.com.....

Very interesting

[stelios]

We know a number of facts.
McCann works for the Labour government. And has alot of powerful friends.
McCann is not the biological father - Madeline was born by sperm donation.

They raised millions in days and even had people like David Beckham on board and adverts and websites up and running AS THOUGH THEY WERE ALREADY PREPARED even adverts during the match at Wembley stadium,

Clarence Mitchell - another Labour party insider as director of its Media Monitoring Unit. His salary was £70,000 a year, became their full time paid PR.

Curiously he was closely involved as a reporter with the Fred and Rosemary West case, where a murderous couple had killed young girls and buried the bodies under their patio in Gloucester.

He was one of the first reporters to arrive at Gowan Avenue, Fulham in south west London, when the immensely popular BBC TV presenter Jill Dando was shot dead in a murder many feel has never been satisfactorily explained.

And more recently, in a story he worked on right up to the day he left the BBC, Clarence led coverage of the murder of the Surrey schoolgirl Millie Dowler in 2002. The case has never been solved.

The Portugese police have suspected the McCanns all along. They have stated that it was impossible for an intruder to enter the villa without being seen by the diners a few yards away.
It is also inconcievable being a father myself to leave 3 infants alone at any time and go out to a dinner party.

[phildee3]

We know a number of facts...

McCann is not the biological father - Madeline was born by sperm donation.



We know that she was artificially insemnated, yes, but do we know for sure that it wasn't his sperm?

[illuminotti]

We know a number of facts.
McCann works for the Labour government. And has alot of powerful friends.
McCann is not the biological father - Madeline was born by sperm donation.

They raised millions in days and even had people like David Beckham on board and adverts and websites up and running AS THOUGH THEY WERE ALREADY PREPARED even adverts during the match at Wembley stadium,

Clarence Mitchell - another Labour party insider as director of its Media Monitoring Unit. His salary was £70,000 a year, became their full time paid PR.

Curiously he was closely involved as a reporter with the Fred and Rosemary West case, where a murderous couple had killed young girls and buried the bodies under their patio in Gloucester.

He was one of the first reporters to arrive at Gowan Avenue, Fulham in south west London, when the immensely popular BBC TV presenter Jill Dando was shot dead in a murder many feel has never been satisfactorily explained.

And more recently, in a story he worked on right up to the day he left the BBC, Clarence led coverage of the murder of the Surrey schoolgirl Millie Dowler in 2002. The case has never been solved.

The Portugese police have suspected the McCanns all along. They have stated that it was impossible for an intruder to enter the villa without being seen by the diners a few yards away.
It is also inconcievable being a father myself to leave 3 infants alone at any time and go out to a dinner party.


Gerry is maddie's father, it's one of the things they sued newspapers over!! it's also in the files,
And forClarence Mitchell, don't forget the soham case, also Lori Campbell,mirror journalist. who fpointed Huntley out also pointed Murat out to the pj...
you guys need to reda about this case, i've followed it since 4th may 07, it really does take some believing what your reading!!

[pri01]

Gerry is maddie's father, it's one of the things they sued newspapers over!! it's also in the files,
And forClarence Mitchell, don't forget the soham case, also Lori Campbell,mirror journalist. who fpointed Huntley out also pointed Murat out to the pj...
you guys need to reda about this case, i've followed it since 4th may 07, it really does take some believing what your reading!!


I have had a quick glance through the files and don't know what to make of them.

Kate McCann knew Madeleine was snatched because her sheets weren't messy, 14 October 2007

Kate McCann knew Madeleine was snatched because her sheets weren't messy Daily Mail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-487650/Kate-McCann-knew-Madeleine-snatched-sheets-werent-messy.html)

By VANESSA ALLEN
Last updated at 23:38 14 October 2007

Kate McCann knew her daughter had been snatched because her body's imprint was left on her bed sheets, friends have said.

She had tucked Madeleine up in bed and when she returned to the apartment the sheets were still neatly in place.

"A child of that age wouldn't have been able to get out of bed without moving a thing," the friend said. 'Someone had carefully lifted her out.'

That is why the McCanns are sure Madeleine did not wander off alone.

The little girl's Cuddle Cat, which she always took to bed, was found on a ledge at adult height.


I have highlighted in bold one comment which I have seen in many of the news stories written. Since I've taken an interest in following this case I am almost certain that there has been printed a story which differs greatly from the one above. I can't remember where I've read it but the alternative story says that the cuddle cat was found on or in the bed. As soon as I find it I will post.

[illuminotti]

[QUOTE=pri01;447999]I have had a quick glance through the files and don't know what to make of them.

it has now been proved cuddlecat on a ledge was a lie, kate said lastyear, "i knew instantly she was snatched, but i can't say why because of portugese secrecy laws" know we find out cuddle cat was on the bed all along, and there are no shelves in the kids room.....there are photographs of the crime scene in those files.

[pri01]

[quote=pri01;447999]I have had a quick glance through the files and don't know what to make of them.

it has now been proved cuddlecat on a ledge was a lie, kate said lastyear, "i knew instantly she was snatched, but i can't say why because of portugese secrecy laws" know we find out cuddle cat was on the bed all along, and there are no shelves in the kids room.....there are photographs of the crime scene in those files.

If I remember, they made a big deal about it. It was one of the reasons either Gerry or Kate said, that was why they knew she had been taken. They said that the ledge was too high for Madeleine to reach for her to have placed it there, so it must have been put there by whoever took her. I don't understand why they would make stuff up if they know it could come out? I ask this in the context that the abduction has been planned, carried out and reported upon with absolute precission.

[brenbren]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/2512536/Madeleine-McCann-was-snatched-by-paedophile-ring-to-order.html

"According to an email sent by the Metropolitan Police a child abduction ring based in Belgium placed an order for a "young girl". "

[diamond dogs]

Not sure if this has been mentioned but on a McCann friendly Blog it had Jack down as a carpenter..

Late father of Gerald (“Gerry”) was a Labour Party high ranking politician

Jack McCann, father of Gerald (“Gerry”) McCann was an influential politician from the Labour Party, elected as a Member of Parliament in a 1958 by-election, in Rochdale, near Manchester. This campaign is in Media history books, as the first by-election to be covered by television. BBC has decided not to cover it, but Granada TV, an ITN franchise, decided to report the campaign. After the Labour Party smashing victory, Harold Macmillan, British Prime Minister from 1957 to 1963, decided to give his first TV interview as Prime-Minister, talking to a BBC program called “Press Conference” and on a ITV “Tell The People.”

Jack McCann (1910-1972) studied at elementary school and then at classes of the National Council of Labour Colleges and Workers’ Educational Association. An engineer, he served as councillor on Eccles Borough Council in 1945 and was leader of the Labour Group. Elected in 1958 to the Parliament, in 1964 he was appointed to the Government’s Whips’ Office as Lord Commissioner of the Treasury, than in 1966 as Vice-Chamberlain of the Household, returning to be a Lord of the Treasury 1967–69.

[lightworks]

Not sure if this has been mentioned but on a McCann friendly Blog it had Jack down as a carpenter..

Late father of Gerald (“Gerry”) was a Labour Party high ranking politician

Jack McCann, father of Gerald (“Gerry”) McCann was an influential politician from the Labour Party, elected as a Member of Parliament in a 1958 by-election, in Rochdale, near Manchester. This campaign is in Media history books, as the first by-election to be covered by television. BBC has decided not to cover it, but Granada TV, an ITN franchise, decided to report the campaign. After the Labour Party smashing victory, Harold Macmillan, British Prime Minister from 1957 to 1963, decided to give his first TV interview as Prime-Minister, talking to a BBC program called “Press Conference” and on a ITV “Tell The People.”

Jack McCann (1910-1972) studied at elementary school and then at classes of the National Council of Labour Colleges and Workers’ Educational Association. An engineer, he served as councillor on Eccles Borough Council in 1945 and was leader of the Labour Group. Elected in 1958 to the Parliament, in 1964 he was appointed to the Government’s Whips’ Office as Lord Commissioner of the Treasury, than in 1966 as Vice-Chamberlain of the Household, returning to be a Lord of the Treasury 1967–69.

and no disrespect to the late jack Mcann..but it has to and therefore must be asked...which high ranking funny handshaking elite/s on the square referred the mcanns to the ex SS filth "pope" benedict?...he along with all the paedophile blood drinking vatican are filth

and I ask myself and all of you what the fuck is this media hyped limp wristed hand wringing by the mcanns supposed to procure or indeed achieve...???
the whole story just makes me feel so truly and utterly sick and that is because the mcanns as they love to be called...owing to the fact that they hired the cockney publisher with the smoothed out elecution max clifford...means to me that they are beyond all shadow of a doubt evidently suspect
I mean cmon people first thier child goes missing and then the world wide media does a death of princess diana style public guilt wipe/tear jerk....my god....what the fuck is all this bullshit about...are we really as such highly intelligent and beautiful conciousness...supposed to focus on such obviously cockanamy claptrap??...and should we really as collective soul conciousness collectively waking up focus on such obviously deliberate tavistock engineered distraction....
such as one stupid git
or two stupid gits....
having the absolute gall to leave two young or three young children alone for more than half an hour...while they oh um just popped out for dinner
jesus fucking christ they should be locked up or at the very least be given extensive Psyciatric evaluation....cmon people...two competent medical professionals as the obedient ever faithful lapdog ass suck media has again and a fucking gain duly informed us...leaving thier kids alone...LEAVING THIER KIDS ALONE....LEAVING THIER KIDS ALONE
LEAVING THIER KIDS ALONE??????????????????????????????????????????
I MEAN CMON THE MIND ABSOLUTELY BOGGLES...THEY HIRE THE MAX CIFFORD THE CELEBRITY PUBLICIST AND FLY TO ROME SOB SOB to get the Waffen SS Standarten fuehrer benedicts blessing because they are the two most miserable irresponsable dishonest pair of them ...USELESS AND DECEITFUL MIND CONTROLLED PAEDOPHILES|Id have them imprisoned immediately and stripped of thier medical licences to practise..just for the barefaced fucking cheek of this all...and still after the obivious backsliding deceit and cover up and weak willed claims of innocence....they are still plugging the press for interviews...
"why the mcanns want to left alone by the media......well if thats the case mr and mrs making a mint per press interview mcann...then please phuck off and shut your stupid irresponsable suspect of paedophilia in amsterdam traps firmly fucking shut...because I'm sure in case you didnt know that most of us have much and far more meaningful fulfilling lives to be going on with... and thankyou

[mariag]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/2512536/Madeleine-McCann-was-snatched-by-paedophile-ring-to-order.html

"According to an email sent by the Metropolitan Police a child abduction ring based in Belgium placed an order for a "young girl". "

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/00786/Maddie-email-460_786898c.jpg

Right and it takes the "NEWS" about more then a YEAR to publish this?
I Don´t buy this for a second, I stick to my first intuitive feeling about Maddie , and that is that the parents waisted her for whatever sick and perverted reasons and then looked for forgivness from the POPE.
Its a set up from the start , a plan for the Chip.

[americana]

and no disrespect to the late jack Mcann..but it has to and therefore must be asked...which high ranking funny handshaking elite/s on the square referred the mcanns to the ex SS filth "pope" benedict?...he along with all the paedophile blood drinking vatican are filth

and I ask myself and all of you what the fukc is this media hyped limp wristed hand wringing by the mcanns supposed to procure or indeed achive...the whole story just makes me fell truly and utterly sick and that because the mcanns as they love to be called...owing to the fact that they hired the cockney publisher with the smoothed out elecution max clifford...means to me that they are beyond all shadow of a doubt evidently suspecti mean cmon people first thier child goes missing and then the world wide media does a death of princess diana style publice guilt wipe/tear jerk....my god....what the fuck is all this bullshit about...are we really as such highly intelligent and beautiful conciousness...supposed to focus on such obviously cockanamy claptrap...and we should as collective soul conciousness collectively waking up focus on such obviously deliberate tavistock engineered distraction....such as one stupid git or two stupid git....having the absolute gall to leave two young or three young children alone for more than half an hour...while they oh um just popped out for dinner
jesus fucking christ they should be locked up or at the very least be given extensive Psyciatric evaluation....cmon people...two competent medical professionals as the obedient evr faithful lapdog ass suck media has again and a fucking gain duly informed us...leaving thier kids alone...LEAVING THIER KIDS ALONE....LEAVING THIER KIDS ALONE
LEAVING THIER KIDS ALONE??????????????????????????????????????????
i MEAN CMON THE MIND ABSOLUTELY BOGGLES...THEY HIRE THE MAX CIFFORD THE CELEBRITY PUBLICIST AND FLY TO ROME SOB SOB to get the Waffen SS Standarten fuehrer bendicts blessing because they are the two miserable irresonsable dishonest pair of them ...USELESS AND DECEiTFUL MIND CONTROLLED PAEDOPHILES|Id have them imprisoned immediately and stripped of thier medical licences to practise..just for the barefaced fucking cheek of this all...and still after the obiviousd backslding deceit and cover up and weak willed claims of innocence....they are still pluggi n the press for interviews..."why the mcanns want to left alone by the media......well if thats the case mr and mrs making a mint per press interview mcann...then please phuck off ans shut your stupid irresposinle suspect of phaedophilia in amsterdam traps...because I'm sure in case you didnt know that most of us have much and far more meaningful fulfilling lives to be going on with... and thankyou

Beautiful post. Absolutely friggin' beautiful. Spot on.

[lightworks]

americana thankyou...and today in the english press..the story is that madeliend was sold to a top belgian paedophile ring....dutroux ?...haute le garenne....joef fritzl perhaps?....or queen beatrix....i watched as video out of here last night... the video that the 911 is an inside job gang made.....the fucking cops in new york are throwing people down to the floor and arresting them for riding bycicles..at nazi style ropadblocks posted all over central new york...I sat horrified watching this until 4am this morning..jesus h fucking christ...when will people learn to get out of sheeple dom?....how in heavens name do we get away and out of this tyranny and oppression?....it seems more and more like outright violence is the only language that these people will understand...but we dont fire fire with fire...so i dont know...but Im kinda getting very very cheesed of with big brother....so heres \ link to the latest professional paedophile story

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu0D4K18CiA&feature=related

sorry oops ..slip of the fingers there..no pun intended..I play this music..
so heres the link
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/2516685/Madeleine-McCann-spotted-in-Brussels-after-paedophile-ring-reports.html

[johnashu]

?....it seems more and more like outright violence is the only language that these people will understand...

divide and conquer my friend.. the violence is caused by ourselves to ourselves..

[lightworks]

divide and conquer my friend.. the violence is caused by ourselves to ourselves..

thankyou does that mean I get to play a guitar instead whilst the EU stormtroopers..teargas thier way through my civil liberties then......?:D

[dazzle]

So Maddie will be found and in the meantime we will get all this stuff...protect your kids...

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/columnists/lorraine_kelly/article1536126.ece

[horseflesh]

Friday, August 8, 2008

Police are examining CCTV footage of a girl seen in a Belgian bank who could be Madeleine McCann, it was reported.

A bank security worker said she saw the girl on Monday, accompanied by a woman of North African appearance, on CCTV footage from a branch of KBC Bank in the west of Brussels.

The footage has now been handed to police who told reporters the child "was said to be much like Madeleine".

Belgian police said they had received more than 100 reports of possible sightings of the youngster and around 30 merited further investigation.

The sightings come after it was revealed a Scotland Yard informant suggested Madeleine was stolen to order by a Belgian paedophile gang.

Met sources said they did "everything possible" with the tip and, despite warnings that the Scotland Yard intelligence may be flawed, investigators employed by Gerry and Kate McCann are vigorously pursuing the leads in Belgium.

More here -

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=256822&in_page_id=34&in_a_source=

[minton]

Not sure if this has been mentioned but on a McCann friendly Blog it had Jack down as a carpenter..

Late father of Gerald (“Gerry”) was a Labour Party high ranking politician

Jack McCann, father of Gerald (“Gerry”) McCann was an influential politician from the Labour Party, elected as a Member of Parliament in a 1958 by-election, in Rochdale, near Manchester. This campaign is in Media history books, as the first by-election to be covered by television. BBC has decided not to cover it, but Granada TV, an ITN franchise, decided to report the campaign. After the Labour Party smashing victory, Harold Macmillan, British Prime Minister from 1957 to 1963, decided to give his first TV interview as Prime-Minister, talking to a BBC program called “Press Conference” and on a ITV “Tell The People.”

Jack McCann (1910-1972) studied at elementary school and then at classes of the National Council of Labour Colleges and Workers’ Educational Association. An engineer, he served as councillor on Eccles Borough Council in 1945 and was leader of the Labour Group. Elected in 1958 to the Parliament, in 1964 he was appointed to the Government’s Whips’ Office as Lord Commissioner of the Treasury, than in 1966 as Vice-Chamberlain of the Household, returning to be a Lord of the Treasury 1967–69.



Gerry McCann's father wasn't Jack McCann the Labour MP. Gerry's real father's name was Johnny McCann and he moved from Donegal in Ireland to Glasgow in the 1960s and he did work as a carpenter/joiner.

The MP Jack McCann was born in 1910 and his wife, Alice was born around 1913/14, so Alice would have been around 54/55 when Gerry was born in 1968 and that alone would put a few doubts on that story anyway.

The person who wrote that just made a mistake in assuming that Jack McCann and Gerry McCann were related, after a misunderstanding over information they had received and they admitted that mistake when the real son of Jack McCann posted on their blog on this link.


http://gazetadigitalarquivo.blogspot.com/2007/09/late-father-of-gerald-gerry-was-labour.html


The story of four-year-old Madeleine McCann, who disappeared from a holiday apartment in Portugal more than a week ago, continues to receive extensive coverage here. It is reported that both her paternal grandparent are from Co. Donegal. The late Johnny McCann from St Johnston and Ellen Ferry from Crolly emigrated to Glasgow in the 1960s.


http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:djxH5JWCPE0J:www.emigrant.ie/files/indexfile.asp

[themime]

Bit off topic but I thought I'd post it anyway.

On the Sat night after she went missing I had a dream that I was standing at a dock side with my little girl as a large yacht sailed past.

My daughter asked what it was and I said something like,"That's what happens when you don't stay with mummy and daddy."(But I didn't get the feeling that Maddie was on the boat just that someone who had something to do with it was.)

The boat was painted maroon and gold and was sailing to Holland.(This was well before any paper said that there may be a link to there.)And the marina/dock had brightly coloured buildings nearby and a covered gangplank area on which we were standing.(Only later when looking through Google Earth did I see pictures of 3 marinas which matched).

Anyway this dream stuck with me like no other and I couldn't shake the feeling that it was important, so I posted it in the dream section of the AOL boards under the heading of "My Dream" and on a major UK newspaper forum.

However it would seem that I am no longer able to access them as the newspaper closed that side of its forum (you'll know which one I mean if you used it). And AOL doesn't show it anymore, even though it shows messages from before and after the posting date.

I tried to e-mail it to the Find Madeline site on the anniversary of her disappearance but the e-mail got returned as a posting error.

So there it is believe it or not, daft I know but if I didn't post it here then it would somehow feel wrong.

Thanks for reading.

[magicmerlin]

This latest media re-opening has me fuming! If these sightings are legit, then why the hell doesn't one of them grab her/the person with her. Now, let me get this straight - 'she was spotted by bank cctv security' - ah I get it, the bank security must exist to piss people like myself off when I have a complaint to make about my account, but when it comes to rescuing the world's most famous under 8, they just watch it like an episode of eastenders and then a day later decide to write into points of view. And yet all the sheeple fall for the scam. The biggest bloody irony is that if maddie is with a paedo ring, it will involve the very same people behind the chip. People are just too blind to even contemplate the fact that just like a sick pervert could rape a child, the microchip could have the power to rape humanity of its soul.

[pheony]

This latest media re-opening has me fuming! If these sightings are legit, then why the hell doesn't one of them grab her/the person with her. Now, let me get this straight - 'she was spotted by bank cctv security' - ah I get it, the bank security must exist to piss people like myself off when I have a complaint to make about my account, but when it comes to rescuing the world's most famous under 8, they just watch it like an episode of eastenders and then a day later decide to write into points of view. And yet all the sheeple fall for the scam. The biggest bloody irony is that if maddie is with a paedo ring, it will involve the very same people behind the chip. People are just too blind to even contemplate the fact that just like a sick pervert could rape a child, the microchip could have the power to rape humanity of its soul.

I agree with you, if people have spotted her 'WHY HAS'NT SOMEONE GRABBED HER'. If i saw her i would take her away from the person straight away..especially if it was a woman on her own. None of it makes sense. I also dont think that if madeleine has been abducted people would be taking her out for walks to the bank.

[titan]

Her 'abduction' has got naff all to do with sacrifice.

Perhaps we should be looking at the original Amber pin-up. Amber Hagerman who was found with her throat cut - hence Amber Alert (haven't the suspects been feted by politicians and taken to Brussels to push the Amber Alert?)


Now we have many stories that will tick many (totalitarian) boxes.

Her re-emergence will be like the second coming of Christ.

Can you imagine?


There will be much crying in streets and new recruits for religion.

[endlessvista]

I see the racist McCann's latest tactic it to find a moslem women with a blonde child anywhere in the world and use it as proof of their complete innocence. If the woman is wearing a headscarf all the better cos then we can;t see her own fair hair and the McCann's on-going diversionary tactics roll on.

Cos, ya know like...every moslem is the world is a shift darkie pedophile out to get your children. That's why we must adore Gerry and Kate the Joseph and Mary of child neglect.

[kenn]

Definitely has an undercover feel to this and I'm sure there will be some kind of abuse and negative energy feeding from this.

[horseflesh]

...Gerry and Kate the Joseph and Mary of child neglect...

:D

[steevo]

Imagine what the reaction of the sheeple would be if Maddie was never found and THEN another child got kidnapped BUT this time she had a microchip under her skin and because of this they FOUND HER safe and well, but NOT Maddie. The sheeple would be rushing out to get their kids microchipped.

[phildee3]

Her 'abduction' has got naff all to do with sacrifice.

Her re-emergence will be like the second coming of Christ.

Can you imagine?

There will be much crying in streets and new recruits for religion.



I disagree with you, titan.
I still think she was eaten by Bush and Liz.

But yours is the only alternative that is at all plausible.

[pri01]

I tried to wage a bet with William Hill (betting establishment) that Maddy would be found and they refused. They said that they could offer no price for her being found. Bookies have no morals and will take money on anything. Let's wait for the reveal. hmmmmmmmmmmmm;) Does anyone else think that she will be found? I do. Soon, the jungle drums are very much a rumbleing.

[beldazar]

I'm now watching 'confessions of a mother goddess' and Arizona talks about the ritual sacrifices taking place and of the parents involved.
She says that them having their children taken for sacrifice is 'a price they have to pay'
One thing that was odd is that some reporters, or rather one witness claims that Maddies mum said 'they've taken her'.
I believe she was taken as a sacrifice and the parents knew that and would possibly explain Mrs Mcann's distant apathy to the whole situation and Mr Mcann's links to freemasonry

All these possible sightings are to keep people off the track in my opinion

[endlessvista]

One thing that was odd is that some reporters, or rather one witness claims that Maddies mum said 'they've taken her'.

What about the odd midnight visits to the church, the vatican and lourdes. One of their closet freinds telling about her "special qualities and beauty which makes her stand out." All very creepy and disturbing shit.

But most of all the graphic design chosen by Team McCann and shoved in people's faces. Almost like a talisman or religious icon.

[lightworks]

madeleine macann is dead she was killed soon after she was taken...she is on the other side and wants you all to get on with your lives and stop making such a fuss

[qasrose]

madeleine macann is dead she was killed soon after she was taken...she is on the other side and wants you all to get on with your lives and stop making such a fuss

Nobody could know if she was dead or alive?. I think she's still alive. I do think that all this cctv footage is fake, why blur it? what have they to hide?

[endlessvista]

lightworks, I cannot understand your point. What if she was murdered/negligent manslaughter and her killing was being used to force some totalitarian bogus laws and control mechanisms on society in relation to child protection then we should all let it go and not talk about it anymore.

Explain to me the rationale behind your statement.

[lightworks]

lightworks, I cannot understand your point. What if she was murdered/negligent manslaughter and her killing was being used to force some totalitarian bogus laws and control mechanisms on society in relation to child protection then we should all let it go and not talk about it anymore.

Explain to me the rationale behind your statement.
being who I am
and where I am truly from
defies rationale

I am telling you she is dead
I know this
And I knew this
almost exactly one year ago
when the case was in full media glare

I am not paying attention to the media
but to what really matters

do you understand the language I am speaking?

[signalnorth]

Just nearly kicked the TV in. Richard Madeley on 'The Pinch and Judy Show' was just saying that all those people (i.e me) who once thought (once thought, Richard?) that the McCanns had something to do with Mads disappearence are now racked with guilt at the realisation that the parents actually had nothing to do with it all! Oh really, Richard! Well well!


er.. I'm not actually feeeling bad Richard, in fact I haven't changed my opinion so go frig yourself, you big self-righteous arsehole.

[endlessvista]

I caught that too! They said that Kate McCann was innocent because she reminds them of Diana! Just incredible to see "minds" like that show their true colours.

You have to remember that both Richard and Judy launched attacks in their paper columns within days of Madeline's vanishing against anyone who doubted their abduction story or even ones who dared to mention they left three children under 3 unattended.

They have been left with no option except to hold that position since. Especially when Judy Finniegan said in the following months that Shannon Mathew's mother and the mother of the 16 years girl murdered and raped in Goa should of known better. But two doctors leaving 3 babies alone in a foreign apartment is a sign of inspirational parenting as they both stated. It was all based on class and whom Richard and Judy deemed the most "respectable" - which when you think about it is the only reason anyone defends them.

Gerry and Kate McCann have not been cleared. They PJ in their final report said that the only thing which prevented them from arresting and charging Gerry and Kate McCann was the lack of a body.

That's not the same thing as being innocent.

[steevo]

Just nearly kicked the TV in. Richard Madeley on 'The Pinch and Judy Show' was just saying that all those people (i.e me) who once thought (once thought, Richard?) that the McCanns had something to do with Mads disappearence are now racked with guilt at the realisation that the parents actually had nothing to do with it all! Oh really, Richard! Well well!


er.. I'm not actually feeeling bad Richard, in fact I haven't changed my opinion so go frig yourself, you big self-righteous arsehole.

There is alot of people on the mainstream media saying that sort of stuff that "Dick" Madeley is saying. Coincidence ? I think not. They have all been told to say these things (media whores).

Have you seen his wife recently. I dont put the tv on much but I did the other week and she looked like she had aged a hell of alot since a few months earlier when I last saw her. She looked like a proper little old lady. I feel sorry for her having a husband like that.

[endlessvista]

It stinks.

http://www.24horasnewspaper.com/total.p ... 13&link=09

Gerry said he made copies with Maddie’s image on the night of the crime

The PJ made a research of the printers available in Luz, but the sort of paper the pics of Maddie were printed on, could not be found anywhere. Nelson Costa, one of the militaries in the GNR who was called on the night of 3 May, was perplex. He told the PJ he saw several pictures of Maddie, some A4 size and others with the size of a poster, that ‘couldn’t have been made’ in the reception of the Ocean Club.

[lightworks]

It stinks.
Madeeliene Mcann asks from the spirit world
for evryone to know she's at peace and being looked after,she says dont blame them forgive them,

[endlessvista]

Madeeliene Mcann asks from the spirit world
for evryone to know she's at peace and being looked after,she says dont blame them forgive them,

Considering the child could barely say little more than "ga gag goo goo" when her parents left her and her even younger siblings alone to their fate that night I must say the child has become remarkably articulate in the after life.

I bet Cleopatra speaks to you in a Essex accent no doubt...:rolleyes:

[steevo]

I'm now watching 'confessions of a mother goddess' and Arizona talks about the ritual sacrifices taking place and of the parents involved.
She says that them having their children taken for sacrifice is 'a price they have to pay'
One thing that was odd is that some reporters, or rather one witness claims that Maddies mum said 'they've taken her'.

I believe she was taken as a sacrifice and the parents knew that and would possibly explain Mrs Mcann's distant apathy to the whole situation and Mr Mcann's links to freemasonry

All these possible sightings are to keep people off the track in my opinion

Do you happen to have any links to that story beldazar cos it quite a wierd thing to say if it's true ?

[beldazar]

It was in a paper I read at McDonalds :o:o about a year ago. It would have been either the Mirror or Diily Express if I remember rightly but dont take me on that.
Sorry I cant be of more help there, it seems pretty significant.
Im sure it was the waiter at the restaurant they were eating in who saw Kate Mcann run out screaming 'theyve taken her'.
Perhaps somebody posted it on this thread somewhere?

[americana]

Considering the child could barely say little more than "ga gag goo goo" when her parents left her and her even younger siblings alone to their fate that night I must say the child has become remarkably articulate in the after life.

I bet Cleopatra speaks to you in a Essex accent no doubt...:rolleyes:


She was almost 4. There's something terribly wrong if she could not speak. Perhaps you are being a bit ironic. Maybe she wasn't terribly verbal, but I do believe she spoke.

[americana]

It was in a paper I read at McDonalds :o:o about a year ago. It would have been either the Mirror or Diily Express if I remember rightly but dont take me on that.
Sorry I cant be of more help there, it seems pretty significant.
Im sure it was the waiter at the restaurant they were eating in who saw Kate Mcann run out screaming 'theyve taken her'.
Perhaps somebody posted it on this thread somewhere?

Right-o. Here ya go!


Kate McCann screamed from the BALCONY 'they've taken her', claims new witness
Last updated at 16:59 09 November 2007

A new witness who was the first to see Kate McCann moments after she realised her daughter Madeleine had disappeared has given a dramatically different account of what happened that night.

A waiter at the Portuguese holiday complex where the family were staying said instead of running back to the tapas bar where she was dining with her husband Gerry and friends, Kate McCann raised the alarm from the balcony of their apartment.

The Portuguese man said that instead of running back to the tapas bar where the McCanns and their friends were dining Kate McCann screamed: "They've taken her, they've taken her, they've taken our little girl."

This version of events contrasts dramatically with the account friends of the McCanns have given.

It has previously been claimed that the 39-year-old GP raised the alarm when she ran back to the restaurant on 3 May shouting: "Madeleine's gone, Madeleine's gone."

Detectives leading the case into the four-year-old's disappearance have always insisted her first words were "they've taken her" but have only today revealed she screamed these words from the balcony of the family's holiday apartment at the Ocean Club in the Portuguese town of Praia da Luz.

According to the Portuguese newspaper Diario de Noticias, detectives in the Policia Judiciaria ? Portugal's criminal investigation department ? are looking particularly closely at the new evidence.

They are understood to view this as suspicious because it indicates that Mrs McCann had already ruled out the possibility of Madeleine wandering off, and regard it as possible evidence that she was already engaged in a cover-up.

But friends of the couple have always insisted Mrs McCann reacted with such horror that they are convinced she could not have faked it.

They re-interviewed at least three Ocean Club workers ?a receptionist and two waiters at the tapas restaurant last week.

The waiter is reported to have told colleagues Mrs McCann was in "a state of panic". Mr McCann and the seven friends dining with the couple then came running out to see what had happened.

They also insist that both the child's parents were so distraught it would have been impossible for them to have killed their child several hours earlier.

The Portuguese police are also looking the 14 text messages Gerry McCann sent at dinner shortly before his daughter's disappearance.

This development comes as it was revealed that the couple, declared suspects in their daughter's disappearance in September, could sue the Portuguese police for failure to find their daughter.

The couple could sue for an estimated £1million if the investigation is closed, it was reported. (((((AHA!!!!!)))))

Find this story at www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-492617/Kate-McCann-screamed-BALCONY-theyve-taken-claims-new-witness.html

[steevo]

It was in a paper I read at McDonalds :o:o about a year ago. It would have been either the Mirror or Diily Express if I remember rightly but dont take me on that.
Sorry I cant be of more help there, it seems pretty significant.
Im sure it was the waiter at the restaurant they were eating in who saw Kate Mcann run out screaming 'theyve taken her'.
Perhaps somebody posted it on this thread somewhere?

Thanks Beldazar I have found it in the Daily Mail (2 reports) via Google :-

The vital witness: Nanny Charlotte Pennington

"We are trained to comfort people in this type of situation but she was just inconsolable," she said.

Miss Pennington is considered a vital witness by Portuguese detectives with whom she spent more than four-and-a-half hours giving a statement.

She also claims British expat Robert Murat, the first suspect in the case, was in the area of the Ocean Club complex that night. He has repeatedly denied that he was there.

Talking from her mother's home in Leatherhead, Surrey, yesterday she told the Daily Mail: "I was in the apartment less than five minutes after they found that Madeleine had gone.

"When we were coming out we saw Kate and she was screaming: 'They've taken her, they've taken her!'

"I was standing right in front of her outside the apartment's back door, in the alleyway. I was very close to her. It might not have been the first thing she said. But she definitely said it.

"I was one of three Mark Warner staff who saw her shouting it. They have all given statements to the Portuguese police saying that."

The "they've taken her" version of events was first given in the Portuguese press two days after Madeleine disappeared on May 3.

It remained unchallenged until last Thursday when a source close to the McCann family claimed Kate had actually shouted: 'Madeleine's gone!'
Full Story 1 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-483715/Kate-McCann-DID-scream-Theyve-taken-claims-new-nanny-witness.html)

A new witness who was the first to see Kate McCann moments after she realised her daughter Madeleine had disappeared has given a dramatically different account of what happened that night.

A waiter at the Portuguese holiday complex where the family were staying said instead of running back to the tapas bar where she was dining with her husband Gerry and friends, Kate McCann raised the alarm from the balcony of their apartment.

The Portuguese man said that instead of running back to the tapas bar where the McCanns and their friends were dining Kate McCann screamed: "They've taken her, they've taken her, they've taken our little girl."

This version of events contrasts dramatically with the account friends of the McCanns have given.

It has previously been claimed that the 39-year-old GP raised the alarm when she ran back to the restaurant on 3 May shouting: "Madeleine's gone, Madeleine's gone."

Detectives leading the case into the four-year-old's disappearance have always insisted her first words were "they've taken her" but have only today revealed she screamed these words from the balcony of the family's holiday apartment at the Ocean Club in the Portuguese town of Praia da Luz.

According to the Portuguese newspaper Diario de Noticias, detectives in the Policia Judiciaria ? Portugal's criminal investigation department ? are looking particularly closely at the new evidence.

They are understood to view this as suspicious because it indicates that Mrs McCann had already ruled out the possibility of Madeleine wandering off, and regard it as possible evidence that she was already engaged in a cover-up.

Full Story 2 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-492617/Kate-McCann-screamed-BALCONY-theyve-taken-claims-new-witness.html)

[beldazar]

Thanks for finding it Steevo and Americano, says it all really :mad:

[steevo]

Thanks for finding it Steevo and Americano, says it all really :mad:

Yeah it does because it fits that theory that the McCanns KNEW that Maddie was gonna be taken (alledgedly) and by who. And they tried to COVER UP that Kate McCann had said those words "They've taken her".

[phildee3]

Yeah it does because it fits that theory that the McCanns KNEW that Maddie was gonna be taken (alledgedly) and by who.



and how long did it take for this to sink in? Fifteen months?

hello!!

[steevo]

and how long did it take for this to sink in? Fifteen months?

hello!!

No it sunk in straight away pretty much. What are you going on about woman ?

[endlessvista]

She was almost 4. There's something terribly wrong if she could not speak. Perhaps you are being a bit ironic. Maybe she wasn't terribly verbal, but I do believe she spoke.

I was being 100% serious. There was a video released at one point (to prove the McCanns to be perfect parents naturally) in which Madeline is opening her christmas present (a disney napsack) the christmas before she went missing. The child could barely say more than "ga gag goo goo". If it is anywhere on the net you should check it out. There was something not right about her vocal skills for her age.

I found this interesting because I do wonder if Madeline was somehow underdeveloped. She seemed tiny for her age (need to be lifted into bed according to her aunt), certainly seemed to have speaking difficulties and there was that odd problem with her eye.

There is a centre down the road from me for children with special needs and although most of the kids are down syndrome, many are not. But they have that same look that Madeline looks like she had. Small, poor vocal abilities for her age, various defects and all that same almost elfish look. In nearly every case the children are a result of mothers drinking heavily during pregnancy.

It just got me wondering. If you couple Madeline's "lack of perfection" in the middle class, suburban trophy child sense, with Kate McCann's obvious narcissistic personality disorder (she is on record as saying she was being persecuted in Portugal because she is beautiful) then you have something to worry about.

[americana]

I was being 100% serious. There was a video released at one point (to prove the McCanns to be perfect parents naturally) in which Madeline is opening her christmas present (a disney napsack) the christmas before she went missing. The child could barely say more than "ga gag goo goo". If it is anywhere on the net you should check it out. There was something not right about her vocal skills for her age.

I found this interesting because I do wonder if Madeline was somehow underdeveloped. She seemed tiny for her age (need to be lifted into bed according to her aunt), certainly seemed to have speaking difficulties and there was that odd problem with her eye.

There is a centre down the road from me for children with special needs and although most of the kids are down syndrome, many are not. But they have that same look that Madeline looks like she had. Small, poor vocal abilities for her age, various defects and all that same almost elfish look. In nearly every case the children are a result of mothers drinking heavily during pregnancy.

It just got me wondering. If you couple Madeline's "lack of perfection" in the middle class, suburban trophy child sense, with Kate McCann's obvious narcissistic personality disorder (she is on record as saying she was being persecuted in Portugal because she is beautiful) then you have something to worry about.

Oh, that's very interesting! I've read that she Madeleine is autistic; never knew quite what to make of that. I don't think that any preschool teachers or caretakers have ever weighed in on what she was like. Nevermind her parents - - it was always vague stuff you'd say about someone you didn't know well, like "lovely".

As I have noted before on this forum, it's interesting that the official "missing" poster had no weight or height information printed on it. And it's always seemed cruel to say, but she looks rather vacant in the picture they chose to use.

In other photographs, she is more focused, she looks like she has life in her eyes. In the one chosen for the poster, she looks "babyish".

Mmmm . . . yes, I'd say Kate McCann may be the perfectionist/ anorexic/ exerexic type - - narcissistic, but underlying PROBLEMS.

[endlessvista]

As I have noted before on this forum, it's interesting that the official "missing" poster had no weight or height information printed on it.

As if the McCann's did not want her vital stats out there for fear of the story they might tell.

Or perhaps Gerry and Kate had no idea what height and weight their eldest daughter was. Madeline McCann is the first missing child in history were her weight and height was not made public, but who had t-shirts, mechandise, music videos, blogs, dancing Annie kids, Manchester United and private jet trips around europe to highlight her. But her vital stats left off the wanted posters.

Her own father Gerry "we tried to beat our jogging time today to the cliffs between looking for Madeline" McCann accidently called her "margaret" at a press conference and then Kate McCann claiming that her 3 year old daughter had read all the Harry Potter books and her favoruite show was Dr Who!

This says to me that Kate McCann is so wrapped up in herself that she simply had no idea about her daughter and made up half baked assumptions culled from pop culture.



And it's always seemed cruel to say, but she looks rather vacant in the picture they chose to use.

Which is often a sign of a neglected or emotionally ignored child. Or a mother who used lots of drugs or drink during pregnancy.

It has been speculated that all the jogging may well have been dealing with cold turkey.

[signalnorth]

McCann accidently called her "margaret" at a press conference and then Kate McCann claiming that her 3 year old daughter had read all the Harry Potter books and her favoruite show was Dr Who!

.

That's very bizzare. The whole situation is strange beyond words.

For me the strangest thing about the whole case is how media savvy the whole extended family clan is in front of camera,something that goes well beyond 'middle-class' confidence

[americana]

. . . . and then Kate McCann claiming that her 3 year old daughter had read all the Harry Potter books and her favoruite show was Dr Who!

This says to me that Kate McCann is so wrapped up in herself that she simply had no idea about her daughter and made up half baked assumptions culled from pop culture.

She sure can't keep her stories straight: this, from the Daily Mail :
MADDY POTTER By Martin Fricker 17/07/2007
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/2007/07/17/maddy-potter-89520-19465835/

Mum Kate, speaking as it was revealed posters of Madeleine will be displayed in every shop in the world selling the novel when it is released on Saturday, said: "I got her a DVD and like most kids she is a fan.

"We look forward to reading the books to all three children."

http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/sm3/jun2007/5/6/FAC8FA3D-99C0-42D2-D61EBF2BA9D33587.jpg

Above is the picture I was talking about before.

You are probably quite right in saying about her "spacey" look . . .

Which is often a sign of a neglected or emotionally ignored child. Or a mother who used lots of drugs or drink during pregnancy.

It has been speculated that all the jogging may well have been dealing with cold turkey.

Hmmm . . hadn't heard that, but it makes sense.

[phildee3]

No it sunk in straight away pretty much. What are you going on about woman ?



Really??
In your message #1920, you say this idea is "weird."

[steevo]

Really??
In your message #1920, you say this idea is "weird."

Phil are you deliberately misunderstanding me ?

[phildee3]

Phil are you deliberately misunderstanding me ?

no

[steevo]

no

hee hee :D

[endlessvista]

That photo is so sad to look at. The child looks heavily medicated and almost like she was posed for a future missing child poster. The child is lacking 'something'. Her facial features are odd, she has a huge gap between her almost non-existant upper lip and her nose. It should be the other way around with a 3 year old little girl and that gap must be less pronounced. In fact the entire nose in that photo looks wrong. As if it was photoshopped in from another child. It is actually narrower at the bottom than the top. Look at the weird curve on the (our right hand side of the nose) - I have never seen anything like it and appears to be almost "pointing" to her eye. The shadows are far too strong for the rest of the photo. I am wondering if that is even her nose or was the child being reviewed for rhinoplasty.

Of all the quotes surrounding the case this one I find the most sickening and twisted by Jon Corner the McCann Official Film Maker in Vanity Fair:

“So beautiful, astonishingly bright, and I’d have to say very charismatic. She would shine out of a crowd,” family friend Jon Corner says of the child. “So—God forgive me—maybe that’s part of the problem. That special quality. Some xxxxxxx picked up on that.”


http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/featu ... rentPage=5

This person is apparently Gerry McCann's best friend. How does he talk about a 3 year old like this?

[beldazar]

Do all parents know their childs height and weight?
Am I a bad parent as I dont know my children's height and weight? I know my kids are healthy, why would I want to keep measuring them? :confused:

[phildee3]

Do all parents know their childs height and weight?
Am I a bad parent as I dont know my children's height and weight? I know my kids are healthy, why would I want to keep measuring them? :confused:



You probably didn't take anatomy at PhD level.

They could estimate them with incredible accuracy!

[pri01]

As if the McCann's did not want her vital stats out there for fear of the story they might tell.

Or perhaps Gerry and Kate had no idea what height and weight their eldest daughter was. Madeline McCann is the first missing child in history were her weight and height was not made public, but who had t-shirts, mechandise, music videos, blogs, dancing Annie kids, Manchester United and private jet trips around europe to highlight her. But her vital stats left off the wanted posters.

Her own father Gerry "we tried to beat our jogging time today to the cliffs between looking for Madeline" McCann accidently called her "margaret" at a press conference and then Kate McCann claiming that her 3 year old daughter had read all the Harry Potter books and her favoruite show was Dr Who!

This says to me that Kate McCann is so wrapped up in herself that she simply had no idea about her daughter and made up half baked assumptions culled from pop culture.





Which is often a sign of a neglected or emotionally ignored child. Or a mother who used lots of drugs or drink during pregnancy.

It has been speculated that all the jogging may well have been dealing with cold turkey.

How can a parent misquote their daughter's name? How many 3 year old's are able to read all of the Harry Potter books? Is there an assumption that Madeleine never existed, and that all this is fabricated for the media, for our consumption to take part in the overall plan? I may appear confused in some of my posts on this subject and this is because I am trying to make sense of what is going on in between all of the lies we are being fed. I am very clear though in my belief, that Madeleine will be found. There is too much invested in this outcome. The McCanns hire the very best crack teams of investigators costing £500'00.00, and that is on top of the fees for their personal advisor and indeed one of the best companies on the planet for finding missing people. Come on people, they are telling us she will be found.

[qasrose]

Madeline: Lost in Paris (1999)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0272183/

Strange that a girl named Madeline vanished from Portugal?? hmmm

[kimball13]

i noticed this yesterday while reading an article on the BBC news site, look at here left eye, pretty odd :

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42925000/jpg/_42925083_madeleine_pa_203_b.jpg

looks like, the the beging of disasotiative dissorder, MPD. Desensitizing is definatly occuring, just like when you see, a kid get there arm yanked, in a super market, and the child gets ,that same dear in the headlights look. i may be wrong but if alot of her pictures around the same age have the same look then she has ben conditioned that she will be abused so what ever they wan her to do she will do without question "snap to" ..........the only healthy time this look occurs is curiosity,

[howie]

The Daily Mail published this photo twice last august in the printed edition.

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/1529/madeleine06august2007ph0.jpg

I wrote to them asking why the 7 'o clock symbol is missing from her eye in this photo, they never replied. They ignored my other question about how they managed to deliver the mail on sunday with the headline 'Diana dies in Paris car crash' only 2 & 1/2 hours after it was announced.

[emerald]

I was being 100% serious. There was a video released at one point (to prove the McCanns to be perfect parents naturally) in which Madeline is opening her christmas present (a disney napsack) the christmas before she went missing. The child could barely say more than "ga gag goo goo". If it is anywhere on the net you should check it out. There was something not right about her vocal skills for her age.

I found this interesting because I do wonder if Madeline was somehow underdeveloped. She seemed tiny for her age (need to be lifted into bed according to her aunt), certainly seemed to have speaking difficulties and there was that odd problem with her eye.

There is a centre down the road from me for children with special needs and although most of the kids are down syndrome, many are not. But they have that same look that Madeline looks like she had. Small, poor vocal abilities for her age, various defects and all that same almost elfish look. In nearly every case the children are a result of mothers drinking heavily during pregnancy.

It just got me wondering. If you couple Madeline's "lack of perfection" in the middle class, suburban trophy child sense, with Kate McCann's obvious narcissistic personality disorder (she is on record as saying she was being persecuted in Portugal because she is beautiful) then you have something to worry about.

From the 1st time I saw KATE MCCANN, I said to myself: "This is the face of an alcoholic woman"

[seaweed]

From the 1st time I saw KATE MCCANN, I said to myself: "This is the face of an alcoholic woman"


I agree, Emerald. Kate McCann bears a close physical resemblance to someone I know who is an alcoholic bulimic, upper middle class, and dare I say it, a somewhat neglectful mother, my friend, that is; not wishing to cast aspersions on Mrs McCann ;):D

[eric144]

COMARE



Dr. Gerry McCann is a member of the medical subcommittee of COMARE (Committee on Medical Aspects of Radiation in the Environment ). The committee which controversially found no cancer clusters near nuclear installations contradicting previous findings and a recent major study in Germany. The chairman of COMARE is Professor A Elliott BA PhD DSc of the Western Infirmary Glasgow where Dr McCann worked and studied. Professor Elliott is also chairman of the Medical Practices Subcommittee of which Dr Gerry McCann is a member.


http://www.comare.org.uk/comare_members.htm





Both the McCanns worked at the Western Infirmary, Glasgow.

The McCanns met when both were junior doctors at the Western Infirmary, Glasgow, and when she left to work in New Zealand for a year he followed and won her heart.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article1779638.ece



The big red flag about Dr McCann's membership of COMARE is that it was never mentioned in the press. It's a big story that the world's most famous criminal suspect is a member of an extremely important and controversial British government committee. It can only be a cover up because it is very easy to find that information on google.




Here is proof that GP McCann (as he isreferred to in the COMARE website) is indeed Gerry McCann

G. P. McCann was supported by a European Society of Cardiology clinical training fellowship, the East Midlands Heart and East Midlands Pacemaker Research Funds.

C. T. Gan was supported by the Netherlands Organisation for Scientific Research, Mosaic grant, project 017.001.154.

1 Department of Cardiology, VU University Medical Center,Amsterdam, The Netherlands.

2 Present address: Department of Cardiology, Glenfield Hospital, Groby Rd., Leicester LE3 9QP, United Kingdom.
Address correspondence to G. P. McCann.

http://www.ajronline.org/cgi/reprint/188/2/349.pdf (PDF file)


Using a unique database (consisting of over 32,000 cases of childhood cancer that occurred in Great Britain between 1969 and 1993) COMARE studied the incidence of childhood cancer in the vicinity of all the major licensed nuclear sites (power stations and other nuclear installations) in Great Britain. Using the most appropriate statistical test for each site, we found no evidence of excess numbers of cases in any local 25 km area around any of the nuclear power stations.

http://www.comare.org.uk/press_releases/comare_pr10.htm





Higher cancer risk for children near nuclear power plants found in Germany

A new study on behalf of the Federal Office for Radiation Protection is the first study to show reliable results: the risk of children under 5 years of age to contract leukaemia increases the closer they live to a nuclear power plant. This is the result of an investigation of the German Childhood Cancer Registry (GCCR) in Mainz carried out on behalf of the Federal Office for Radiation Protection. The investigation concludes that in the study period from 1980 to 2003, within a radius of 5 km around the reactors, 37 children contracted leukaemia. On the statistical average, 17 cases would have to be expected. About 20 cases can thus be attributed to the fact that they live within this radius.

http://www.insnet.org/ins_headlines.rxml?id=5571&photo=



Gordon Brown and the McCanns

Clarence Mitchell reveals that Gordon Brown took a personal interest in the case and that there had been several conversations between the McCanns and Brown and foreign secretary David Milliband.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pFQPUUlU6i8&feature=related



As the couple fight to clear their name, prime minister Gordon Brown spoke to his Portuguese counterpart Jose Socrates about Madeleine during an EU summit in Lisbon. Mr Brown has followed the case closely and was in direct contact with Mr McCann via mobile phone when he was still Chancellor.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1566664/'Proof'-McCanns-did-not-sedate-Madeleine.html



The British Government and Nuclear Energy



Brown calls for eight new nuclear plants (July 14 2008)
· New stations to be part of 'nuclear renaissance' ·

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/jul/14/nuclearpower.gordonbrown



Brown to endorse new generation of nuclear power

http://www.guardian.co.uk/nuclear/article/0,,2217048,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=networkfront



New Labour produced a White Paper in May 2007 called The Energy White Paper: Meeting the Energy Challenge:


www.dti.gov.uk/energy/whitepaper/page39534.html




The head of media relations at that EDF is a man called Andrew Brown who happens to be the Prime Minister's brother.

Profile: Shining from the sidelines - Andrew Brown, head of media relations, EDF Energy

Just as PRWeek begins to write up its interview with Andrew Brown, the Chancellor of the Exchequer's brother who joined EDF Energy last month, a power-cut temporarily wipes out the building's electricity.

http://www.brandrepublic.com/News/227764/



Keep It In The Family, Gordon
What makes this decision politically sensitive, is that Gordon Brown has close family connections to the nuclear industry. His younger brother Andrew Brown works for EDF Energy, the UK subsidiary of EDF, which operates nuclear power stations in France, and which is one of the leading companies pushing for a nuclear rebuild programme in the UK. Andrew Brown was appointed as EDF Energy's Head of Press on 13 September 2004. Previously, he worked for the lobbying company Weber Shandwick.

One of Brown's key advisors is Ed Balls, whose father-in-law Tony Cooper is a long-standing nuclear lobbyist

http://www.nuclearspin.org/index.php/Gordon_Brown



EDF, the world’s leading nuclear power utility, operates a French nuclear fleet consisting of 58 reactors spread over 19 different sites

http://www.edf.fr/accueil-fr/edf-and-power-generation/nuclear-power-122172.html



EDF moves into UK with Notts power station
A first venture into contracting in this country by the French EDF group at the £600m gas-fired West Burton power station is being seen as a possible trial run for future bids to secure work on the expanding UK nuclear build programme.

http://www.contractjournal.com/Articles/2008/06/04/59581/edf-moves-into-uk-with-notts-power-station.html


British Energy close to sale deal

French energy firm EDF and British Gas owner Centrica are set to announce that they have bought UK nuclear firm British Energy, the BBC has learned.

The BBC's business editor Robert Peston said EDF and Centrica will probably announce early next week they are paying more than £12bn for the company.

British Energy, which owns eight UK nuclear power stations, has been on the auction block for months.

The deal could raise as much as £4bn for the Chancellor.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7523498.stm





Richard Branson and nuclear energy

Virgin Fuels' ambitions stretch across the entire power-generation sector.

The company talks of investing in more ventures like Californian firm Cilion, which plans to make bio-ethanol fuel from corn. Wave power and wind farms are on the agenda, so is nuclear power.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5370972.stm



Virgin Fuels is already working with the government on a scheme to make it economic for train companies to use biodiesel. Virgin would also like to develop a biofuel suitable for aircraft engines, although it concedes this could be a decade away.

Branson is understood to be considering other big investments in a range of other alternative-energy technologies, including wind power, hydro-electric and possibly even small nuclear stations. “Nothing is off the agenda,” said a top Branson aide.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/article633948.ece



Another Brown connection with the McCanns.

A former Gordon Brown advisor is director of the PR company that worked for the McCanns - Nicola Murphy wo was special advisor in HM Treasury (just like Justine McGuinness) and later followed Gordon Brown to Parliament as his personal advisor until June 2007 - is Associate Director of Hanover PR Company, part of the media & PR Organisation of the McCann family.Hanover, a company set up by John Major's former press secretary, Charles Lewington, was in charge of handling contacts between media and the McCann family until Nover 22nd, when that job was transferred exclusively to Clarence Mitchell

[lightworks]

The Daily Mail published this photo twice last august in the printed edition.

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/1529/madeleine06august2007ph0.jpg

I wrote to them asking why the 7 'o clock symbol is missing from her eye in this photo, they never replied. They ignored my other question about how they managed to deliver the mail on sunday with the headline 'Diana dies in Paris car crash' only 2 & 1/2 hours after it was announced.
fucking hell and do you remeber that guys post aboput how the magnifying glass effect in the eye affects only one in the million of the population?

[pri01]

From the 1st time I saw KATE MCCANN, I said to myself: "This is the face of an alcoholic woman"



Hi there Emerald. How can you tell? She just looks anorexic and very anxious to me.

[minton]

looks like, the the beging of disasotiative dissorder, MPD. Desensitizing is definatly occuring, just like when you see, a kid get there arm yanked, in a super market, and the child gets ,that same dear in the headlights look. i may be wrong but if alot of her pictures around the same age have the same look then she has ben conditioned that she will be abused so what ever they wan her to do she will do without question "snap to" ..........the only healthy time this look occurs is curiosity,



I don't see anything wrong with Madeleine at all, she seems like just a happy, well adjusted girl in most of the photos I've saw of her. Maybe the camera was too close to her in that particular photo and the flash caught her by surprise, that's most probably the explanation for the way she's looking in that photo. I know the McCanns are probably not the most ideal parents in the world, but there's no evidence at all of them being abusive towards Madeleine.

[emerald]

Hi there Emerald. How can you tell? She just looks anorexic and very anxious to me.

That bitch mite also look anorexic, but anxious? Never. The proof of her "anxiety" is in what she (and her husband) did to her own child. Mabe my answer is irrelevant, but there is a pattern I generally recognize in alcoholic persons. Their eyes, expression... Add to this my intuition too.

[gribz]

I think we should make a citizens arrest on the McCanns :D

[americana]

Guys, I have been perusing the Three Arguidos website http://www.3arguidos.net which was recommended by Illuminotti, I believe.


I am OVERWHELMED. There's a lot of info there.

One of the things that they are focusing on in one particular thread, Maddy's strange growth...and copyrights2006!, is PHOTOGRAPHS.

I have always felt that there was something strange about the VARIETY of photos, different ages, which we, the public have been shown. It ends up being very confusing as to her size, even hair color!

In addition, I have probably remarked about the photo used on the missing poster not being the most "updated" photograph.

I am wondering, like some ppl on the Three Arguidos forum, whether "Madeleine" per se, exists, or whether there's a TWIN or . . . lord knows, clones?

[pri01]

Guys, I have been perusing the Three Arguidos website http://www.3arguidos.net which was recommended by Illuminotti, I believe.


I am OVERWHELMED. There's a lot of info there.

One of the things that they are focusing on in one particular thread, Maddy's strange growth...and copyrights2006!, is PHOTOGRAPHS.

I have always felt that there was something strange about the VARIETY of photos, different ages, which we, the public have been shown. It ends up being very confusing as to her size, even hair color!

In addition, I have probably remarked about the photo used on the missing poster not being the most "updated" photograph.

I am wondering, like some ppl on the Three Arguidos forum, whether "Madeleine" per se, exists, or whether there's a TWIN or . . . lord knows, clones?


I have said the same in earlier posts. We can only process the information given to us about this case via main stream media, so it could all be a load of bull. The media are very much involved in this case as it is they who have kept details ongoing almost everyday since her 'alleged' disappearance. It's highly possible that if she did exist, she could have an identical twin. She could be revealed in the future with the distinctive eye mark as a means to proving to Joe public that it is indeed Madeleine. There will be singing and dancing in the streets.
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[illuminotti]

No No guys, do not read our news it is all spin clarence mitchell has control over what goes in the british papers, read the portugese articles translated to english on the mccann files, thats where the truth is,

[jos08]

i just don't see why they got all that attention were 100s of kids are missing and being killed every year in this world and no one even mentions anything about them.

[pri01]

i just don't see why they got all that attention were 100s of kids are missing and being killed every year in this world and no one even mentions anything about them.

It's because it signifies something major is about to happen.

[americana]

This may be out of left field, but y'all have noticed Madeleine's missing poster and how the EYES are featured, in the wording, and in the photo.

Frankly, if you look over various images of her, aside from the "Snow White video, Madeleine's eyes are NOT roundish at all.

But, they often seem to be highlighted with eyeliner!

I am wondering if her parents were/are trying to imply that she is an Indigo or Crystal child, who have large eyes and a way of looking at things and people that is markedly different.

[thegoodnessisgood]

It's because it signifies something major is about to happen.

What do you think that something is? I agree with you, as that makes perfect sense. They often use the mass media to send messages to their people in the open, so the kidnapping of this girl may very well mean "this is happening now" or "this is about to happen" but what, ?

[endlessvista]

amazing, nearly 2 years too late media discovers Gerry and Kate McCann have been building a business on their child neglect.

I swear journalists get more retarded by the hour.

[eternal_spirit]

i just don't see why they got all that attention were 100s of kids are missing and being killed every year in this world and no one even mentions anything about them.


It's to stop people thinking and focusing on the others missing children, and the media has done a good job at doing so.

[americana]

[QUOTE=eternal_spirit;472024]It's to stop people thinking and focusing on the others missing children, and the media has done a good job at doing so.[/QUOTE

You said it, baby. Sick psy ops.

Below, find the latest on the McCann fiasco. £500,000 down the drain! Think of what that money could DO to help disadvantaged kids. I was reading people's comments on a similar article last night, and one poor soul from Los Angeles was wondering where to send money! God help us.

Madeleine McCann: Investigators dropped after being paid £500,000
A firm of private investigators hired to hunt for Madeleine McCann are being dropped after being paid £500,000.

By Richard Edwards and Subhajit Banerjee
Last Updated: 2:30PM BST 24 Aug 2008

Photo: PA
The US-based team, which boasts former British security service and FBI contacts, had been given a six-month contract earlier this year and were paid from the Find Madeleine Fund.

It is understood their contract will not be renewed at the end of the month in a review led by double-glazing tycoon Brian Kennedy - who is underwriting the fund's search.

Oakley International was hired discreetly just before the anniversary of Madeleine's disappearance in Praia da Luz, Portugal, in May. It monitored a Madeleine Hotline number, followed up leads and reviewed CCTV footage of possible sightings.

Mr Kennedy reportedly believes the agency's bills - estimated to be over £80,000 a month - were not justified by their results.

Most of the money spent on the agency came from a £550,000 libel pay out from Express Newspapers in March. Around £450,000 remains in the fund.

Several private investigators have been used to track down the missing girl, including Metedo3, a Spanish agency. The fund lost confidence in them, especially after they announced they would find Madeleine by last Christmas, and the agency is now used only sparingly.

Oakley International won the contract after an introduction by another company, Red Defence International (RDI), based in Jermyn Street, central London.

A spokesman for the McCanns said: "Kate and Gerry, the fund and their backers have continually sought to employ the best people in the search for Madeleine. Red Defence and Oakley International were part of a large number of resources employed in recent months.

"Their contract is continuing for the immediate future and will be reviewed when it ends, as you would expect. We will not be comment on the detail of any personnel, financial or operational arrangements."

Lawyers and investigators for the McCanns are still combing through the police files released in Portugal earlier this month after Mr and Mrs McCann were released from their status as official suspects or "arguidos". They are looking for leads they fear police ignored after focusing the investigation on the McCanns.

"The search is very much ongoing," said the spokesman, "and there is certainly no crisis in the fund."

[americana]

And the story is kept in the news . . . . very interesting development . . .

http://www.newkerala.com/fs/ai-1063.htm
Jolie extends support to missing Madeleine McCann's mum
London, Aug 25 : Hollywood actress Angelina Jolie wants to extend her support to the mother of missing Madeleine McCann.

The case of Madeleine, who went missing last year in Praia da Luz, Portugal, received huge publicity in the US.

The actress came to know about the case while shooting her new movie 'Changeling'.

The Oscar-winner has told her friends that she wants to share her "sympathy and support" privately with Madeleine's mother Kate.

"With six kids of her own now, Angelina has become acutely aware of the horror of a child going missing," the Daily Star quoted one of Jolie's close friends as saying.

"Prior to working on Changeling, she spoke to the mothers of children who haven't been found in California and Vermont, where the film was shot.

"She was intensely moved by their strength and hope, despite their despair.

"Angelina and Brad are really struck by the way her parents have moved heaven and earth to get the world on the look-out for their little girl.

"I think Angie just wants to give Kate a hug and say a few words of support from one mom to another.

"She doesn't pretend she possibly knows how Kate feels but she does have an inkling now and she realises the absolute nightmare the McCann family is going through," the friend added.

It is thought a possible meeting between the two would take place in London.

--ANI

[scandal girl]

i dunno, what you pipl talk here about, but you probably going the wrong direction, i've heard from the world-of-mouth that it was abducted by some paedo from HOL and they won't let it slipaway..

[jos08]

i dunno, what you pipl talk here about, but you probably going the wrong direction, i've heard from the world-of-mouth that it was abducted by some paedo from HOL and they won't let it slipaway..
Ha? I have no idea what you have just posted there. Could you explain what you are talking about please?
Because there is something very sinister about his we need to know the truth.

[jp13]

I am asking this in all serious, who thinks that she is still alive?
I am no psychic, but yesterday, I had the image that is used for her in my mind, and though I couldn't go very far I felt she was still alive, maybe unconscious. I don't know enough to do this, but would like to know what most people think regards her being alive or not.

[phildee3]

I am asking this in all serious, who thinks that she is still alive?

...though I couldn't go very far I felt she was still alive, maybe unconscious.



She was the victim of the highest level Satanic ritual possible, -
performed by those who have the most advanced, cutting edge military technology at their fingertips too.

I have always thought that her body was killed but that her spirit was captured - to be placed in another body, or bodies, of their choosing and under their full control.

Your post has triggered another possibility to me, in addition to this, -
maybe they are keeping parts of her body alive, certain organs perhaps.

[jp13]

She was the victim of the highest level Satanic ritual possible, -
performed by those who have the most advanced, cutting edge military technology at their fingertips too.

I have always thought that her body was killed but that her spirit was captured - to be placed in another body, or bodies, of their choosing and under their full control.

Your post has triggered another possibility to me, in addition to this, -
maybe they are keeping parts of her body alive, certain organs perhaps.

I wonder, after reading what you wrote maybe she is being cloned. I think cloning of humans has happened already, if they can do it to a sheep, thye wouldn't stop there, too much fascination, they would have to see if they could do humans too, even though not supposed too.

[phildee3]

I wonder, after reading what you wrote maybe she is being cloned.



I can't think of why they would do this with Maddie specifically.
What would they accomplish?

To add to my "hypothesis," - the purpose behind it is to control the feminine aspect of the Christos, - the Magdalene.
Just as Princess Di was bred to be a vehicle for the Goddess Diana, to produce Britain's next monarch and then sacrificed, so Maddie was bred to be a vehicle for the Magdalene - so that they would be in control of the "second coming."

[pri01]

As she was artificially created so then at that cellular level they can make copies. With this in mind I believe that the maddie that was ritually sacraficed was just that. However, because they have made such a big deal over the significant and visible defect in her eye her copy will be revealed at a later date. A child's image can change rapidly when they are in the infant stage over time. It is the defect in the eye that will be proof to the whole world that the found Madeline is indeed the Madeline that was taken. She will look very different as a result of maturity and it is the only distinguishing feature that will define her. I maybe completely wrong though and I accept that but at the moment, it's the theory that I am running with at the moment. She could very well have an identical twin that is living happily with the McCann's in their home as we speak. How do we know that there isn't?

[phildee3]

As she was artificially created so then at that cellular level they can make copies.



They have exactly the same ability to clone naturally conceived chidren as they can "artificially" conceived ones.

[pri01]

They have exactly the same ability to clone naturally conceived chidren as they can "artificially" conceived ones.

I do know that thanks.

[squalorada]

I'm new here, but I thought i'd throw in my views.
Sorry if im not adding much new, but hundreds of pages on it has meant i've not read the whole thread.

I was in portugal, camping with my dad at the same time madeline went missing. We heard about it, but was very much unaware of the immediate attention the case carried.
We were aware and shocked but thats about it.

On my return to the UK, the full force of how media with power can play things really became apparent, and I think the controversial views that have been aired are valid questions but lack substance.

I dont personally believe that the parents had any idea, or played any part in what might be a massive cover-up/twist.
Its much easier to for somone to formulate a solid plan that involves the least amount of people as possible.

My overall opinion is that if this was executed for somones gain it certainly wasn't the parents, and no matter how foolish leaving them was, i dont think they had malicious intent.

What concerns me the most, is that because this is a blonde haired/blue eyed girl, its like her life is worth more than others.
Are the media following orders, or do they just assume thats whats selling papers? and are the general public buying these papers because they expect to see those articles.

How do we convince such moulded society they should stop paying money for fake news and waiting for people to hand us the truth?

[phildee3]

I dont personally believe that the parents had any idea, or played any part in what might be a massive cover-up/twist.



Her "parents" are both doctors, involved with bio-engineering, with high level government connections.

Maddie was made in the lab. A project which involved many consultants, at much expense, at the cutting-edge of the technology.

Many people have a vested interest in the project.

Yes, I think they were a bit nieve, and didn't have the full picture of why she was made,
but they did play a major part in the cover up to protect their collegues who took her.

[americana]

Her "parents" are both doctors, involved with bio-engineering, with high level government connections.

Maddie was made in the lab. A project which involved many consultants, at much expense, at the cutting-edge of the technology.

Many people have a vested interest in the project.

Yes, I think they were a bit nieve, and didn't have the full picture of why she was made,
but they did play a major part in the cover up to protect their collegues who took her.

Interesting stuff, Phildee.

Can you expand on what you are saying at all?

What was "Madeleine" made to be?

Perfect? And she wasn't? Or . . .

Interestingly enough, her sister, Amelie, has a cleft palate. So much for any theories about the younger children being more perfect models.

[phildee3]

What was "Madeleine" made to be?



Perfect? And she wasn't? Or . . .

No, no.

She was made to be a vessel for the spirit of the Magdalene (as the feminine aspect of the Christos), -
for her makers to have control over the Christos.

[bulgariaole]

As soon as I watched the Credo Mutwa videos about what sacrifice is about, I thought about her. Why such the big fuss in the media over one girl? Mutwa said 4,000 childred where kidnapped everyday in south africa. This story just feels wierd.

[phildee3]

Why such the big fuss in the media over one girl?



Perhaps keeping her in people's thoughts has something to do with effecting the sacrafice (or rather, continuing it's effect).

Does this jive with anything Mutwa says about the nature of sacrifice?

[bulgariaole]

Im not sure, it was extriemly terrifying the way he described the rituals. That story just clicked, u no, i could feel he was telling the truth by the detail he was using. I could remember him saying that they let the victim escape, then recapture them and let them know they will be killed just so they are scared.

Wierd story, you can search it on youtube the story is around part 10 of 19 or somtin.

[phildee3]

they let the victim escape, then recapture them and let them know they will be killed just so they are scared.



This is one type of ritual sacrifice that requires a high level of fear-adrenalin in the body of the victim.

I think that Maddie's sacrifice required the opposite. I have a vision of her being treated like a queen, by her abductors, to put her in a state of absolute happiness before they killed her.

Weird, I know.

[lightworks]

This is one type of ritual sacrifice that requires a high level of fear-adrenalin in the body of the victim.

I think that Maddie's sacrifice required the opposite. I have a vision of her being treated like a queen, by her abductors, to put her in a state of absolute happiness before they killed her.

Weird, I know.
madeleine mcann was drugged by her mother.......her father stoodat the dootway of the bathroon....kate mcann took some pills from a bathroom cabinet....what actually happened is that they had supper together as a family and beforehand the childrens food was drugged with sedatives ...i am getting about kate mcann saying "cmon drink up darling"...the reason why the mcanns were so self confident to leave the children alone is because THEY KNEW that they were both drugged...and everything including robert murat...paedophile kiddiebroker/hig ranking satanic priest...was minutely pre arranged down to the last detail....this portugese camper here is wrong....and most probably or IS a disinfo plant..keep it coming people...so Robert Murat took the body.....somebody such as queeh sofia of sapin required a young child t be sacrificed....they need the blood to keep the shape and hold the form...protugal is a hop skip and a jet plane jump away from spain..the spanish reptilian "royals" would have been able to slip in undetetcted...owing to the closeness to thier "royal" kingdom....lets also see as the great credo mutwa informed a hign ranking Detecive Will O reilly from the special murer squad at scotland yard in reference to the case of the torso of a black boy found in the thames..ADAM...that blood sacrifice does will and regularly happens....credo Mutwa has a friend who is an MP in the houses of parliament who says that blood sacrifice rituals happen on a regular basis ....in london involvling very senior police,secret service,and military person..and obviously the saxe coburg german reptilians who calle themselves the "windsors"....and as a young boy in the queens silver jubile in 1997 I mysled have seen e-lizard-beth{elizabeth} in her or more aptly put it's reptilian form....so just to keep it all in heavenly perspective...and not forgtetting of course the ongoing tavistock institue engineered media psyops.....people we are dealing with an extremely sick twisted bunch of highly organised criminals
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kwtc6DaM2EU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=921wKF7PDys&feature=related pt 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KSXPMYj7ew&feature=related pt 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qsB1pKMma0&feature=related pt 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7utoZRV7mE&feature=related pt 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIsqRaJ2i5s&feature=related pt 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX9kmfOnArQ&feature=related and er ..oh ..um er...pt 7

.madeleine is on the other side..she is smiling ....

[who elsie]

madeleine mcann was drugged by her mother.......her father stoodat the dootway of the bathroon....kate mcann took some pills from a bathroom cabinet....what actually happened is that they had supper together as a family and beforehand the childrens food was drugged with sedatives ...i am getting about kate mcann saying "cmon drink up darling"...the reason why the mcanns were so self confident to leave the children alone is because THEY KNEW that they were both drugged...and everything including robert murat...paedophile kiddiebroker/hig ranking satanic priest...was minutely pre arranged down to the last detail....this portugese camper here is wrong....and most probably or IS a disinfo plant..keep it coming people...so Robert Murat took the body.....somebody such as queeh sofia of sapin required a young child t be sacrificed....they need the blood to keep the shape and hold the form...protugal is a hop skip and a jet plane jump away from spain..the spanish reptilian "royals" would have been able to slip in undetetcted...owing to the closeness to thier "royal" kingdom....lets also see as the great credo mutwa informed a hign ranking Detecive Will O reilly from the special murer squad at scotland yard in reference to the case of the torso of a black boy found in the thames..ADAM...that blood sacrifice does will and regularly happens....credo Mutwa has a friend who is an MP in the houses of parliament who says that blood sacrifice rituals happen on a regular basis ....in london involvling very senior police,secret service,and military person..and obviously the saxe coburg german reptilians who calle themselves the "windsors"....and as a young boy in the queens silver jubile in 1997 I mysled have seen e-lizard-beth{elizabeth} in her or more aptly put it's reptilian form....so just to keep it all in heavenly perspective...and not forgtetting of course the ongoing tavistock institue engineered media psyops.....people we are dealing with an extremely sick twisted bunch of highly organised criminals
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kwtc6DaM2EU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=921wKF7PDys&feature=related pt 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KSXPMYj7ew&feature=related pt 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qsB1pKMma0&feature=related pt 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7utoZRV7mE&feature=related pt 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIsqRaJ2i5s&feature=related pt 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX9kmfOnArQ&feature=related and er ..oh ..um er...pt 7

.madeleine is on the other side..she is smiling ....

Do you ever read back & check what you have written?

Some of the above sounds interesting, but it is so badly written, it is hard to understand what you're going on about. Can you clarify a bit more and say why you think the above has any basis in truth.

Also, none of the links you provide work - but I've just noticed in the preview that they work in this one. Strange :confused:

[lightworks]

Do you ever read back & check what you have written?

Some of the above sounds interesting, but it is so badly written, it is hard to understand what you're going on about. Can you clarify a bit more and say why you think the above has any basis in truth.

Also, none of the links you provide work - but I've just noticed in the preview that they work in this one. Strange :confused:a fews spelling mistakes
as usual /...ive got big fingers..and im dyslexic with computer keyboards

[tracker]

i am hoping that some will read this post .

i do not lay claim to anything here , im just going to tell you of a pattern i saw in the last couple of years .

madelene goes missing !

16 young children die in whales ( and they say it was all suisides ) and the police say there is no connection to them all .

a northern head of police in britain commits suiside in the mounains

and then joursey , ( if i spelled it right ) where children were found in heeps of dead bodeys under a care home in a cellar .

could there be ay connection to all this ?

did the head of police know something and was threatened to shut up or else ?


just a thought thats all .


:cool:

[mace]

I see that the McCanns are on the front page of the News of the World AGAIN.

Just keeping it fresh in our memories me thinks...

[notthisshitagain]

Maddie's mum's diaries revealed

The diaries of Kate McCann, the mother of missing toddler Maddie, have been revealed to a tabloid newspaper in the UK.

They are said to outline her darkest thoughts and fears during the investigation, and how she felt the detectives were unsympathetic towards her.

Maddie McCann went missing in Portugal in May 2007.

The News of the World says police leaked exerpts from Kate McCann's diaries, but the full versions have been passed to the paper by a Portugese reporter.

The publication claims this destroys the picture of the McCanns painted by the Portugese police force.

Quotes from the diary include: "Cried in bed - I can't avoid it. I need her close to me. Thinking about her fear of pain breaks my heart."

Kate McCann also wrote: "I can't bear being without Madeleine. It's like torture... a slow painful death."

It's thought the entries were written between between April and July 2007. Maddie's parents have been cleared of having anything to do with the toddler's disappearance.

Source: http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/newshome/5016202

[goldman]

Hmm not sure but this page somehow led me here:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/09/16/article-0-02AC919A00000578-592_468x567.jpg
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1056573/Catwoman-Jocelyn-Wildenstein-flaunts-feline-features-romantic-day-man.html


Plastic surgery anyone? ;)

[dangermouse]

Hmm not sure but this page somehow led me here:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/09/16/article-0-02AC919A00000578-592_468x567.jpg
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1056573/Catwoman-Jocelyn-Wildenstein-flaunts-feline-features-romantic-day-man.html


Plastic surgery anyone? ;)

ew
doesnt look human

[relaxicab]

Ah, the gorgeous bride of Wilderstein! I saw her at Leicester Square Tube station with her husband recently...she's even scarier in person!:rolleyes:

[beldazar]

Hmmm.......she certainly deserves a refund! :eek:

[tracker]

right back to the issue !

the young girl concerned went missing as we know in somevery strange set of cercumstances .

whilst agreeing that the parents left her alone whilt they went out for some type of meal , somewhere around the hotel ,

i find this desturbing.:eek:
also ?
why any parent can do that goes beyond me .



BUT !
for anyone to write down the long drawn out satement that they hae , as above , stateing tht her parents druggd her , and were both in on it , had better watch that they dont get severely sued or topped off for what they said .

whilt admitting tha they were strange cercumstances , to totally state that her parets did it in this way ( above ) is asking for trouble .

imagine if they didnt !

how has a person contributed to slander that could have the topped by a seriously off minded reader ?

who ever stated the above statement is treading on ice .

ok , like i said , i too think something is wrong , but you will not find me saing things like the above as fact when an investigation hasnt even finished .


:cool:

[illuminotti]

so let them sue, a day in court answering questions is whast a few thousand people want!!

oh and they actually admitted drugging the children, perhaps you should research a little..........

a good place to start......evrything ever released to the public domain, evry spoken word all here.....

http://www.mccannfiles.com/index.html

[yakacm]

I would hazard a guess that something is going to happen rather than is happening now, and preperations are underway behind the scenes safe in the knowledge that everybody in the country is focused on this girl. We're particuarly vuberable at the moment with an impotent government in power and a seriously bleak political future on the horizon.

Thing is, if the media hadn't gone mad for this story when this happened, nobody would care; but we're conditioned into having to pledge a load of emotional energy into something that stinks of a plot, and we castrate anybody who tries to retain a semblance of mental balance and objectivity. Again I hate to say it but we can't be swayed by this.

And now we all know that things was what went on to be called the credit crunch. The McCann thing started late spring early summer2007, and the 'run' on Norther Rock highlighted the begining of the credit crunch late summer 2007.

[endlessvista]

so let them sue, a day in court answering questions is whast a few thousand people want!!

oh and they actually admitted drugging the children, perhaps you should research a little..........

a good place to start......evrything ever released to the public domain, evry spoken word all here.....

http://www.mccannfiles.com/index.html

Ya they should read up on Oscar Wilde and his downfall.

[endlessvista]

Amazing letter this.

Wife of investigator attacks Kate Correio da Manhã

Open letter: Wife of Gonçalo Amaral reacts with irony to attack by Kate

17 September 2008 - 00h30
Thanks to Joana Morais for translation

Open letter to Mrs Kate Healy

Dear Madam,

You will forgive my boldness, but after I read your comment (in an interview to Expresso newspaper) concerning Gonçalo Amaral, my husband and the father of my daughters, I cannot avoid sending you these words of gratefulness. For many years, I have been trying to make myself heard in this sentiment that unites us both: "…as a professional and as a person his behaviour has been a disgrace."

Look at it closely:

a) Professionally

- As a Coordinator of Criminal Investigation for the Polícia Judiciária, my husband has always refused to sit around from 9 to 5 in the comfortable chair in his office, as his hierarchical status implies. Instead, he spent the day (and very often, the night) with the investigators on the terrain, coordinating searches, surveillances, apprehensions and other diligences 'in loco'. A disgrace!

But if it was only the fact that he was subject to the weather, it wouldn't be serious, as our climate is not too bad, as you know. The problem is that this dedication to the cause has earned him a non promotion in his career. Indeed, I will explain this to you, even because this case happened when the searches for your daughter were under way. My husband applied to the category of Superior Coordinator, and in between drug apprehensions, sequestrations and homicides, he somehow managed to produce a thesis about drug trafficking by sea, which he defended in Lisbon, in front of a Jury that congratulated him. Full of hope, Gonçalo Amaral returns to the Algarve and awaits the result. To his surprise, he was passed over by other colleagues (real coordinators, truth be told), because he had not been able to score points in the "professional formation" parameter. That's right, Mrs Kate, my husband spent his life working, involved in complex investigations, he was the man who apprehended the highest volumes of drugs in Portugal, but given the fact that he had no time to go to Lisbon to parade himself up and down the corridors of the PJ's Institute, he was not promoted. A disgrace, madam, a disgrace!

- As you probably know, even because you seem like a very well informed person to me, my husband's salary was less than 1.5 times the lowest salary in your country. But as a wife, as a mother and as a Portuguese citizen, I can't complain, because Gonçalo Amaral's salary was equal to 4.5 times the lowest salary in Portugal. But pay attention to the following, which is an example of what I'm going to explain next: At some point, an individual shoots a member of the PSP [urban police] and flees into neighbouring Spain. A PJ team follows him, including my husband. They stayed there for over two weeks. Now at that time, the international expense coverage was around 100 euros. As you can easily imagine, it's not possible to sleep and eat in Spain with this amount of money, much less shortly before Christmas and taking into account that the value will only be paid at around Easter time (if one's lucky). But Gonçalo Amaral never refused, not even for one day, to search for the escaped murderer, relaying the expenses onto our family accounts. And this is just one example among many. At some point in time, I suggested that we should create a fund or something similar to deal with these extraordinary expenses, but he never listened to me. You see, we also have mortgages to pay around here… A disgrace, Mrs Kate, a disgrace!

b) As a person, his behaviour has also been a disgrace, because to begin with we could never distinguish that he even had a personal life, due to the manner in which he dealt with the profession that he embraced. But if my good friend Mrs Kate allows me, I can offer you some examples:

- 5 years ago, a child named Joana "disappeared". Her mother, just like you, Mrs Kate, tried to project the case into the media, but she didn't make it any further than SIC…

Eight days later, came the confessions and the evidence: during an incestuous act between mother and uncle, the child was beaten, then dismembered and her body dumped who knows where. Mother and uncle went to jail, in a process that was coordinated by Gonçalo Amaral and which earned them almost 20 years in jail, each. But let us go a bit back in time. The child died on the 12th of September. On Christmas eve, our family was reunited for prayer, when my husband asked me to prepare a bag with some food and warm clothes, because he had not carried out his Christmas act of penance. Can you, Mrs Kate, imagine where Gonçalo Amaral went on that Christmas night under heavy rain and thunder? He went to the Olhão Prison, where João Cipriano, Joana's uncle, a confessed murderer and a clinically diagnosed psychopath, is detained. According to my husband, to simply offer an alimony to some beggar was not a sacrifice to him. The fact that he embraced and shared his Christmas meal with João Cipriano was the sacrifice that he offered to God, in memory of Joana. Is this not a disgrace? You should also know that every year, on the 12th of September, my husband has a mass celebrated in memory of Joana Isabel Cipriano Guerreiro. He says that nobody will ever remember the poor little girl again. Right, but they remember to unjustly accuse him of actions and crimes that he never committed. Isn't this a disgrace, Mrs Kate?

- There is a last episode that I will report to you, one that I still find hard to talk about. Last year, in May, we started to move our family to Portimão. My husband was supposed to enjoy a holiday period starting on the day after your daughter's disappearance. "For obvious reasons" that didn't happen. I started on a new job, looked for a house, moved house, and tried to integrate our daughters in new schools and new routines. All of this I did alone, without any help from my husband, who for obvious reasons, was looking for your daughter, Mrs Kate. In October, on his birthday, a week after our daughters started school, Gonçalo Amaral was dismissed and returned to Faro. This was supposed to be the time of the family's reunion and it turned out to be another separation. Isn't this a disgrace? Our daughters never managed to understand, and we never managed to explain to them what obvious reasons were those that rewarded in this manner a father who left his own daughters to go looking for a child that he had never met and whose parents had neglected her. It was a pity that my dear friend Mrs Kate was not around anymore at that date, because you could have been very helpful to me in explaining these "obvious reasons" that led to their father's dismissal, to our daughters.

Finally, I can only report to you that intimately, Gonçalo Amaral is precisely what the latinos are famed for: shameless, as my pudency does not allow me to write any further.

I ask you, my good friend, to forgive these confidences from a wife and mother, but I'm certain that you will understand. I finish this letter asking you to send your mother my most sincere praises. She sounded so sincere to me, when during an interview she referred that she felt like slapping the face of the person who left her grandchildren alone. She spoke so openly that she sounded like a genuine Portuguese grandmother…

My dear friend Mrs Kate, without wishing to bother you any further, I would like to request one last favour from you: now that you have started to tell some truths, please continue, and let the world hear the truth that it has been waiting for.

Best regards,
Sofia Leal
Wife and Mother of the Daughters of Gonçalo Amaral

[sukyspook]

Gulp.....picked up just now from: http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/health/abuse/news.php?q=1222021039

Sept. 21, 2008

Madeleine McCann is being held captive on the personal and private orders of José Manuel Durão Barroso.

A decisive breakthrough in the case of Madeleine McCann has been made with new revelations published by the English investigative reporter, Christopher Story. Following the receipt of several death-threats, the latest at lunchtime on Thursday 18th September 2008, Story has released details and named names.

Behind the abduction of four-year-old Madeleine McCann from the Ocean Club Resort, Praia da Luz, Portugal, on Thursday 3rd May 2007, was a shadowy German organisation called the Deutsche Verteidigungs Dienst (DVD) and the Portuguese politician José Manuel Durão Barroso, the 12th President of the European Commission.

According to Christopher Story, the DVD, based at Dachau, near Munich, has been extensively involved in paedophile child abduction operations for many years, both in Europe and abroad. Selected children are kidnapped, degraded for perverse purposes, filmed and murdered in the production of snuff movies for the international child pornography trade. Senior politicians in several countries are clients and agents of the DVD.

It was reported on Thursday 7th August 2008 that the Metropolitan Police (London) confirmed in an email that Madeleine McCann was abducted on the orders of a paedophile organisation based in Belgium and controlled by the DVD for the European Commission. The DVD's procedure is that an adult client is sent three photographs of children and chooses one of them. The selected victim is then abducted to meet the client's sexual requirements. After a photographer had taken pictures of various children at the Ocean Club Resort, Praia da Luz, three pictures were given to José Manuel Durão Barroso. He chose Madeleine McCann, an English girl from Rothley in Leicestershire.

José Manuel Durao Barroso (52) was born in Lisbon on the 23rd March 1956. He is married to Margarida Sousa Uva. The couple have three children: Luís, Guilherme and Francisco. Barroso was in office as the 117th Prime Minister of Portugal from the 6th April 2002 to the 17th July 2004. He actively supported the war in Iraq and provided the venue for talks between US President George Bush Jnr and UK Prime Minister Tony Blair in the Portuguese Azores on the eve of the conflict.

The current position is that the DVD is refusing to release Madeleine McCann in order to protect Barroso and certain others among its well-known agents and clients.

One of the DVD's bases in Germany is located to the right of the railway line that runs through Unterweilbach, Prittlbach and Hebertshausen into Dachau. It is adjacent to the Hebertshausen Bahnhof in an empty area ending in a very steep bank, against which 8,000 Soviet prisoners of war were shot dead in cold blood during the Second World War. Set into the bank is an odd-looking building with a security gate approached by a path. Beyond this gated entrance is a doorway. Inside the doorway, investigators have photographed evidence of recently used black magic paraphernalia.

The Deutsche Verteidigungs Dienst (DVD), is the secretive pan-German Nazi Strategic Continuum. Over the years, German DVD agents have included President George Bush Snr, The Right Honourable Sir Edward Heath KG MBE (President of The Oxford Union 1938; British Prime Minister 1970-74) and Baron Jenkins of Hillhead (Roy Harris Jenkins, British Chancellor of the Exchequer 1967-1970; British Home Secretary 1974-1976; The Sixth President of the European Commission 1977-1981; Chancellor of the University of Oxford 1987-2003).

Current DVD assets are understood to include the Bush White House, Tony Blair, the British Prime Minister from 1977-2007, Sir John Scarlett KCMG OBE, head of the British Secret Intelligence Service, MI6 GO-2 (London), and several of the senior people at the US Office of Naval Intelligence (Washington).

It is said that many of the high-status British agents of the German DVD were recruited by the Hugh Trevor-Roper DVD cell at Oxford University. Trevor-Roper (Baron Dacre of Glanton) was a prominent English modern historian specialising in the Nazi period.

It has emerged recently that Trevor-Roper worked as a double agent for the German Abwehr. He was active at the International Military Tribunal at Nuremburg (1945-1949) providing obfuscation and false histories to enable the covert escape of senior Nazi operatives and scientists, including Adolph Hitler, from Germany in the immediate aftermath of the Second World War. The escaping Nazis were secreted into the American military-industrial complex or into American controlled locations in South America and Antarctica.

The Trevor-Roper DVD cell at Oxford is also said to have recruited, or manufactured leverage upon, several American Rhodes Scholars at Oxford University, including President Bill Clinton and David Evan Kendall. Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar at University College, Oxford, in 1968, at the time when Trevor-Roper was Regius Professor of History. Kendall was Clinton's personal lawyer during the Lewinsky scandal and subsequent Senate impeachment trial in 1998. He was a Rhodes Scholar at Worcester College, Oxford, in 1966.

Exploiting his privileged position as a director of The Times newspaper (London), Trevor-Roper was centrally involved in the DVD disinformation fiasco connected with the 'Hitler Diaries' hoax of 1983. Tony Blair was at St John's College, Oxford, from 1974-1976. Later in life he became a close protégé of Roy Jenkins. MI6's John Scarlett was at Magdalene College, Oxford, from 1968-1971, and was awarded a first class degree in History.

Christopher Story's Global Analysis News Announcement dated 20.09.08 can be found here. In addition to the Madeleine McCann case, it covers several much larger issues to do with international political and financial corruption.

alcuinbramerton.blogspot.com/2008/09/madeleine-mccann-held-on-private-orders.html

[endlessvista]

That's perhaps the most bonkers Madeline McCann theory yet! There is not one iota of evidence that she was abducted.

Let's stick with the most obvious conclusion and based on almost all previous similar cases and mountain of forensic evidence which would suggest the parents were involvent in their daughter's death (almost certainly manslaughter through gross parental negligence) and hid the evidence. ie: buried it or dumped her dead body somewhere.

and they are getting away with it becuase they are not from some council estate.

[illuminotti]

sukyspook.......tha theory actually fits in with the michael shrimpton report.....

in certain cirlces, allegedly john scarlett is known as the eggman,

[darketernal]

This child was sacrificed, by her parents. :mad:

[phildee3]

This child was sacrificed, by her parents. :mad:



I don't think so.
They are not ordained into any kind of priesthood, so it would have achieved nothing.

They are pawns.

[darketernal]

I don't think so.
They are not ordained into any kind of priesthood, so it would have achieved nothing.

They are pawns.

I stand by my statement. It was what I saw when I looked into her eyes on the first page in the photo. What do you know of her parents?

[phildee3]

I stand by my statement. It was what I saw when I looked into her eyes on the first page in the photo. What do you know of her parents?



It's not what I know of her parents, it's what I know of the priesthood.

They are not ordinands, - it's in their eyes.

[biblegirl]

Ah, the gorgeous bride of Wilderstein! I saw her at Leicester Square Tube station with her husband recently...she's even scarier in person!:rolleyes:

whaaat? that's a real person?

[darketernal]

It's not what I know of her parents, it's what I know of the priesthood.

They are not ordinands, - it's in their eyes.

Regardless of your point, I still see it when I look into HER eyes. What do you see when you look into her energy?

[titan]

Madeleine McCann is going to be used as a religious 'hook'


Hope and fear - control tactics for the new world order


the fear from the financial markets and the hope from maddie turning up


look at what the pope said recently about us relinquishing our pagan love for possessions (lol, ok the pagan pope, whatever)

it's a call to prayer - a set up...with peado scare micro-chipping tactics...they are multi-tasking

[illuminotti]

spot on titan....
she'll be back