Madeline Sacrafice

[babe]

Thank you...:) guys... I wanted to add that if Maddie has survived this and if she does 'return' she wont' be her 'old' self... Any which way you look at it, it's already too late. Not trying be doom & gloom here, just realistic as to the consequences of something that has dragged on for quite a while. No politicos, Bonos (was he around?:confused: he's always somewhere where somebody has to be 'saved'!), Richard Bransons or bloody popes will change that. Sad but true.

[sir nob jerkoff]

The story about the Madeleine concert has no doubt been posted already, but this is the most detailed account i have seen.

David Beckham, JK Rowling Expected to Join 'Madeleine Day' (http://www.christiantoday.com/article/david.beckham.jk.rowling.expected.to.appeal.for.ma deleine.day/10998.htm)

The parents of four-year-old Madeleine McCann, who was abducted in Portugal four weeks ago during holiday, have announced plans for a “Madeleine Day” to keep her disappearance in the public eye.

Gerry and Kate McCann are planning to feature world leaders, pop stars and well known athletes for the international day of events and appeals to find Madeleine.

Sir Elton John, David Beckham and former US president Bill Clinton are expected to join the appeal.

The McCanns have also approached JK Rowling about distributing bookmarks featuring a picture of Madeleine with her next Harry Potter book.

But thankfully...

Elton's Madeleine Tribute Cancelled (http://eltonjohnnews.blogspot.com/2007/11/eltons-madeline-mccann-tribute.html)

Plans for a global "Madeleine Day", featuring the likes of Elton John, JK Rowling and the former American president Bill Clinton, appear to have been quietly shelved, along with plans for further public appearances by the couple.

Imagine it! What were they planning to follow that if it had all gone ahead? Canonization?

[babe]

Oh dear, what a mare....!:rolleyes: Thank God we got spared that "show"! Which reminds me...all that embezzlement of the "funds to find Maddie" to repay their own mortgage... How much craftier can you get? As long as you know how to push the 'emotional compassion button' (silly folk! Having been led by the nose paying for other people's survival issues...the cheek!) it's a free ride...

Hah!

Like I said, it stinks to heaven - them guys become creepier by the minute...:eek: My feeling is that people will tire of it after another 6 months of the same (it's getting old) but the goal/agenda proper will have been achieved (most likely already has...) and, as so often is the case, once the 'puppets' (McCanns) have fulfilled their role, they will be discarded of. And, within that respect, everybody played their role perfectly. Like Brother Bin (of Laden), it's all staged & nothing is as it seems...

[2013]

Another thing with the whole maddy disappearance on top of the other reasons to numerous to mention is that it adds to the fear and dispair if she never gets found.Your children or either dead when they go missing or you will never see them again even if they are still alive in this day of 21st century technology and constant newsmedia attention and survaillence if we cant find her then abandon all hope ye who enter here!
:D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm7ddqkgzFw

[sir nob jerkoff]

Like I said, it stinks to heaven - them guys become creepier by the minute...:eek:

http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/kate-mccann-parents-of-missing-madeleine-mccann-gerry-mccann-and-kate-mccann-hold-a-press-conference-for-the-portuguese-media-OGKM4v.jpg
"“I think we know there are bad people out there ..." Kate McCann




Tomorrow's headlines: (http://news.sky.com/skynews/picture_gallery/picture_gallery/0,,91232-1299763-11,00.html)

http://static.sky.com/images/pictures/1629932.jpg

[sir nob jerkoff]

http://s-images.dailyexpress.co.uk/img/logo.gif

Is that a Knight's Templar in the Daily Express logo?

[babe]

http://s-images.dailyexpress.co.uk/img/logo.gif

Is that a Knight's Templar in the Daily Express logo?

Bloody well looks like it!

Something that really stuck in my mind was when Gerry's dad 'recalled' receiving Gerry McCann's first (apparently hysterical) telephone call after discovering she's gone, that he says: "They've taken her! They've taken her!"

That struck me as very odd... Anyone who would make such a discovery would surely say: "Somebody must've been inside!" or some such remark. This "they" really seems to be an indication that Gerry seems to already know (just assuming here, though...!) who the kidnapper(s) is/are. And, if what Sir Nob (:D!) has said in his above post, is true, to even get to the ex US-Prez' (bless his little white Illuminati socks!)....it's really been growing out of proportion.

As far as I remember there has never been a case of abduction by virtual unknowns that has been taken to this level of media craze & "propaganda machine in full swing". That is why it's so friggin' suspicious...!

I seriously don't know what to make of this whole saga, other than that the McCann's got what they wanted (interest free mortgage repayment - so timely what with all the mortgage repayments crashing right, left & centre, huh?) & plenty of 'celebrity status' treatment - I mean, come on, who's getting to fly on a private jet to Spain, Italy & 'pop over' at the Pope's for a quickie visit?!

Give me a break!

The irony is that the majority of the folks 'following' this case (I haven't 'checked in' since... - can't be asked!) still delude themselves that 'the parents' (bless 'em!:cool:) are 'still in search' of their "perfect" 'Maddie' (going mad in the process... Hah! I just love playing with words...!) Never mind the whole other twist to this...Virgin Mary by the buckload - yes please...!

[And, yet, so rumour has it, that Christianity's future isn't too rosy... Some Irish priest called Malachy back in the 13th century predicted that Benedict (your good ole' Kraut pope) is gonna be one of the dying breed - literally as well as figuratively speaking... Nostradamus has predicted similar developments... Should be interesting to watch - wouldn't be surprised if it coincided with 2012...! In this ever expanding & contracting but self-aware multi-dimensional universe that we live in! The speed of which (the universes' ever faster growth & expansion) them old farts can't keep up with anymore...]

And for those who delude themselves that Maddie's going to be returned or, for that matter is still 'safe & well' need to give themselves a serious reality check!

Anyone who has some inkling about child psychology knows that the first 3 years of an individual's life are crucial in their development (why do you think Mind Control programming starts so early? Helloooo?!)? Like I said these guys know exactly what they're doing & why. And, an abuduction (even if it is 'well-intended' as is often but not exclusively the case with divorced people kidnapping their own children) is always traumatic on a child's psyche, no matter how you look at it.

That's why I said, it's already too late - the damage has been done & she will never be the same again. The innocence was robbed off Maddie the moment that 'person' lifted her out of her bed.

[mentalogirl]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/09/23/nmaddy323.xml

This might be old news,but isn't it a bit strange that the millionaire who pays for the McCanns' legal bills and spokesperson is a Jehovah's Witness?

[phildee3]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/09/23/nmaddy323.xml

This might be old news,but isn't it a bit strange that the millionaire who pays for the McCanns' legal bills and spokesperson is a Jehovah's Witness?

I don't think so.
It doesn't surprise me that there would be big bro/illuminati operatives in the JW's.
Mormons too,
and Vatican II RC's.


In the states, the white, fundamentalist, pentecostal types are known as the "pink church."

These guys are a very dark shade of grey!!

[ethanmya]

Sky news today mentioned some thing bout madaleines parents considering a film offer. Anybody heard anything?????

[babe]

Sky news today mentioned some thing bout madaleines parents considering a film offer. Anybody heard anything?????

Hah! Sky News are major disinformers...! Helloooo??? Designed to keep the gullible duped!

Before you know it, you'll see the McCann's giving a 'thank you' speech at the 2009 Oscars!

Reality truly is stranger than fiction! If it weren't so distressingly upsetting & sickening (make no mistake the only real 'casualty' here is Maddie) it would actually be hilarious the con is so obvious...!

Oh yeah, that joke of a PI (that Portuguese caricature of a wanna-be PI who seems like he watched too many Miami Vices in the good ole' days way back when...!) 'announcing' every other week that he had some 'hot leads' and that he was sure Maddie "would soon be found"...

That really was so very convincing completely 'adding' to the credibility of the McCann's 'genuine' search ('scuse me while I puke!)...! Not to mention them 'parents' paying that stupid agency some 50k for not finding her (anyone catch the drift here...?). Feels oddly like bribing now...huh?

In hindsight, it does make a good 'story' (sorry for being so sarcastic but this whole stupid goof just begs for it!) to have it 'recycled' by the dream machine par excellence...:cool: Maybe 'Dreamworks' can do a Pixar animated 'Maddie' story? SS (aren't the initials of Steven Spielbergs name just strikingly 'in-yer-face'?) knows his job inside out...and he of all people made a movie about the holocaust... Ah... the 'synchronicities' never cease to amaze me!

The one thing that wouldn't surprise me is that Maddie would all of a sudden pop up from obscurity a few years later (say 10 years or thereabouts) & come out with some 'twist' or programmed gobbledegook about what really happened...

Nothing in this whole saga will surprise me. That much I know. It's f****. Period.

[sir nob jerkoff]

The one thing that wouldn't surprise me is that Maddie would all of a sudden pop up from obscurity a few years later (say 10 years or thereabouts) & come out with some 'twist' or programmed gobbledegook about what really happened...

Nothing in this whole saga will surprise me. That much I know. It's f****. Period.

I agree. Anything is possible in a case as crazy as this. But one thing is for sure, with the momentum and publicity this case has gathered, she has become one powerful little girl. If she does ever return, it will be obvious who she is due to the campaign to highlight her eye defect. The one her parents were advised by experts not to draw attention to as it would most likely amount to a death sentence for an abducted child. So maybe we are getting primed for such a future event. But i suspect the forensic evidence now being made public is probably true. I also suspect she has been sacrificed by her parents on that very powerfully charged double blue moon Beltane of 2007.

I posted about a few coincidences in the Madeleine symbolism thread (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14318&page=51). But the most remarkable is this. The Virgin logo (which many have picked up on) not only has 'Virgin', an eye (with coloboma - which is also a black heart), twins, a red serpent and a large 'M'...but it also has at the centre a wolf shaped figure (behind the 'M'). The name McCann means wolf.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7d/Virginrecordlogo.jpg

[kweli]

It's not only reported on Sky New. Here's two contradictary reports.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7178397.stm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=506750&in_page_id=1770&ct=5

[adzboarder]

It's not only reported on Sky New. Here's two contradictary reports.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7178397.stm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=506750&in_page_id=1770&ct=5

Good to see the backlash in the comments section on the Daily Mail, I wasn't expecting that kind of reaction from the twats that read this shit, are more people waking up to this monstrous fraud?

[kweli]

Good to see the backlash in the comments section on the Daily Mail, I wasn't expecting that kind of reaction from the twats that read this shit, are more people waking up to this monstrous fraud?

I do believe they are

[illuminotti]

Babe......It was kate who shouted "they've taken her".....
she shouted it, well screamed it on her way back to the tapas bar, after discovering her child "missing"........by the way, if portugese friends of mine are to be believed, she actually walked back to the tapas bar to tell the others!!

the things and connections ive uncovered about these two stretch very far,

[babe]

Babe......It was kate who shouted "they've taken her".....
she shouted it, well screamed it on her way back to the tapas bar, after discovering her child "missing"........by the way, if portugese friends of mine are to be believed, she actually walked back to the tapas bar to tell the others!!

the things and connections ive uncovered about these two stretch very far,
What can I say? I'm obviously a bloody ignoramus (I'm not claiming the opposite, just that I have some knowledge & awareness:confused:) & you know the "ins n' outs" behind this whole sorry saga or at least more than most of us on this forum.

Why not indulge us instead of teasing us? Fill us in, will you?

BTW, from what I remember from repeated newspaper stories as well as two documentaries I saw at the end of last year, it was actually Gerry McCann who checked in on the kids. Kate stayed with the Tapas 9. Of course, my memory might have the beginnings of Alzheimers, but so far, this has repeatedly & consistently been the 'official' version of the story. What do I know, maybe you're going by the unofficial tale? Like I said, nothing in this case would surprise me.

And...um...you're describing this as if you would've been 'present' & around at the time...it sounds so 'lively'...:eek: Suffice to say that my ...um... natural suspicious instinctual gut reaction following this whole 'saga/story' has prevented me from sending money to them folks or have the wool pulled over me shortsighted eyes...

But, by all means, do feel free to share what you know... We can only learn can't we? We shall be honoured to have your knowledgeable insight & input. All I know is that I haven't got a clue what is really going on other than that this is growing beyond anyone's 'normal' frame of reference as to how this can be (mis-)used for lesser purposes and that nothing is what it seems. It's an extremely convoluted thing & the media does nothing to help matters.

The whole media circus is backfiring - on the McCann's, I should clarify. If they're not going to change their approach they'll end up as the laughing stock of stand-up comedians in spite of themselves. (They already have, as has been the case in Germany where Maddie's picture was superimposed on the satirical comics paper 'Mad' - so fitting as it were...!)

Just don't think I'll be holding my breath to hear your 'input'. There are plenty of people who are led to make claims to have "uncovered things & connections, stretching very far". I only know from my own life's experience that those who open their mouth too big end up having to swallow & choke on meat flies.

Bon appétit!

[magicmerlin]

illuminotti - can you elaborate more on what info you have on them please?

[magicmerlin]

illuminotti - can you elaborate more on what info you have on them please?

[sir nob jerkoff]

Just posting this link to one of the best pieces i've ever seen written on this whole sordid affair. It really puts into a nutshell what so many are thinking.

Enough is Enough (http://forums.mirror.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=35792&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0)


It received the biggest avalanche of positive feedback i've ever seen in a forum thread.

[magicmerlin]

Yes.....you are correct - but the real issue is not covered in the mirror blog - and that is WHY this has happened and how is it going to end.....maybe more people are waking up to the ballshit, but I don't think they are quite grasping just how big the lies are and what the nature of the world may actually be.

[sir nob jerkoff]

Yes.....you are correct - but the real issue is not covered in the mirror blog - and that is WHY this has happened and how is it going to end.....maybe more people are waking up to the ballshit, but I don't think they are quite grasping just how big the lies are and what the nature of the world may actually be.

I agree with you completely. But it's surprising how many people ARE starting to wake up as a direct result. People saying things like 'this is really frightening (about masons, secret societies, media corruption etc), i had no idea about most of this stuff until i got interested in this case!"

[babe]

Sir Nob, people are waking & have been for the last few years... As I'm sure the majority on this forum know, energies/vibrations have been speeding up enormously & if I dare suggest, 9/11 set the stage for the 'waking up' period... That was the biggest organised hoax so far that made people sit up & take notice (the 'introduction' to this was the meddled Bush/Gore voting debacle...).

(And yes, on mainland Europe they've been suspicious of the Maddie case for some time...) I dare say that this decade is the preliminary stage for the major "shake-up" that is predicted 2012 will be (for some it will be the 'Apocalypse' but then again, as this case has shown, it all depends on from which angle one is looking at the 'developments'). Things are simultaneously moving in opposite circular directions, that's why there is such a dichotomy (clash) of forces at work...almost as if cancelling out each other.

It's challenging but, I feel, not in vain... People are beginning to be very fed up with the machinations that keep them imprisoned...

However, I would be very cautious to predict one outcome or other... The Powers That Be (who 'allow' for such cases as Maddie's to be left unsolved) will fight tooth & nail to defend their positions & they have means (connections as well as cash) that most average people are unable to even begin to fathom.

Yes, articles like the one mentioned above may help but they won't bring back little Maddie. The 'waking up' is only the first step - the next (and much harder one) is to put the money where the knowledge is & manifest the change we all long to see.

That's why I don't have much time for people like illuminoti who whaffle & most likely haven't got any solid evidence to back up their claims with.

Just my 2 Cts...:o

[adzboarder]

Agreed Sir Nob - and that came from a Mirror Reader? Astounding!

[sir nob jerkoff]

Sir Nob, people are waking & have been for the last few years...

Oh i know. But this case takes it one stage further. The sort of people i'm talking about being 'woken' by the Madeleine case are some very conventional sorts.

Agreed Sir Nob - and that came from a Mirror Reader? Astounding!

To be fair, due to the fact it is the most well known forum regarding this topic, a lot who post at the Mirror's 'Find Maddie' forum are far more intelligent and clued up than the average Mirror reader or those who frequent the other Mirror forums. But there are still a good number of falsity replicating morons who scoff at anything that doesn't conform. And a sizeable percentage of very 'normal' types who enjoy GMTV and other tabloid crap - but some of them are saying stuff like 'i have completely stopped watching all daytime chat shows and news and stopped buying papers because of this sickening case' and 'i really never saw how corrupt the government and media are until now'. These are people who the U.S. coup of 2000, 9-11 and the genocidal attack on Iraq hadn't succeeded in waking.

Oh well, once they seperate the wheat from the chaff and figure out who amongst the populace has a conscience and an adherence to truth...and who is keen to buy into all that is false... they can go about filling up those 'super prisons' they are building with all the troublesome truth seekers, and keep the most easily programmable for their Brave New World. Of course, i'm not really being serious...for now. ;)

Back to the rest of Babe's post:
As I'm sure the majority on this forum know, energies/vibrations have been speeding up enormously & if I dare suggest, 9/11 set the stage for the 'waking up' period... That was the biggest organised hoax so far that made people sit up & take notice (the 'introduction' to this was the meddled Bush/Gore voting debacle...).

(And yes, on mainland Europe they've been suspicious of the Maddie case for some time...) I dare say that this decade is the preliminary stage for the major "shake-up" that is predicted 2012 will be (for some it will be the 'Apocalypse' but then again, as this case has shown, it all depends on from which angle one is looking at the 'developments'). Things are simultaneously moving in opposite circular directions, that's why there is such a dichotomy (clash) of forces at work...almost as if cancelling out each other.

It's challenging but, I feel, not in vain... People are beginning to be very fed up with the machinations that keep them imprisoned...

However, I would be very cautious to predict one outcome or other... The Powers That Be (who 'allow' for such cases as Maddie's to be left unsolved) will fight tooth & nail to defend their positions & they have means (connections as well as cash) that most average people are unable to even begin to fathom.

Yes, articles like the one mentioned above may help but they won't bring back little Maddie. The 'waking up' is only the first step - the next (and much harder one) is to put the money where the knowledge is & manifest the change we all long to see.

That's why I don't have much time for people like illuminoti who whaffle & most likely haven't got any solid evidence to back up their claims with.

Just my 2 Cts...:o

Another interesting and insightful post...though aren't you being a bit harsh on Illuminoti? :D Maybe they didn't mean the cryptic post to come across as haughty or anything, and just didn't have time to go into it all. Of course, i could be wrong. :)

Anyway, here's the latest quote from Gerry:

In the interview with magazine Vanity Fair, the couple tell writer Judy Bachrach of their darkest moments in the days following Madeleine’s disappearance. Gerry says: “The world was all black, with maybe tiny points of light.”
Source (http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/30974)

Maybe...a thousand?
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/8855/pii1mx9.jpg

[illuminotti]

babe.....you are one arrogant poster!!

thx sir nob, i didnt actually have time, i have been on the mirror forums since may 4th, i came here to tell people interested about maddie case to go there, so i wouldn't have to keep inputting info on 2 sites!!!!!!! it was on about page 2 or 3 of this thread, that i typed that


o and babe, i never said gerry didnt check on the children, he did,........but it was kate who did the last check and found her missing!!!
perhaps you should re-read those newspapers you had your info from in the 1st place, bearing in mind there full of crap...the portugese police are bound to secrecy laws, anything in the papers is just pure speculation on their part,

and y couldnt u just ask me about info instead of launching a tirade of abuse,

[babe]

babe.....you are one arrogant poster!!
the portugese police are bound to secrecy laws, anything in the papers is just pure speculation on their part,

and y couldnt u just ask me about info instead of launching a tirade of abuse,
Point taken! :o Yes, I agree, things are so friggin' confusing (which I suspect has been part of the agenda all along - part of the media's "job" is to dish out 'opposites' of the same story precisely to keep 'working' on the accomplishment of the real agenda - as I said previously: keep 'em distracted!) that I'm losing track of what's what - not that I care any longer to be honest... I've lost my patience with these guys somewhere beginning of Dec & their milking "poor us" for all it's worth.

Oh, and BTW, I wasn't hurling any 'abuse' at you. I was actually quite 'civilised' - you don't want to me when I really get going...!:eek: That would give you a run for your money!:D

Anyways, Sir Nob, I feel that people are more aware than you might be willing to give them credit for - but then, I am taking into account that Britain is media paradise (paparazzi's 'carte blanche', anyone?), so obviously it's harder to withdraw from the onslaught of rubbish... Will maybe write more to later...;)

[daria]

sirnobjerkoff, what is that shape behind the McCann parents?

[illuminotti]

http://www.mccannfiles.com/index.html

this isn't my webpage, it's one a few of the mirror members have put together!

to ansa above, its a pyramid, in someones garden, some reports say its an old lady who lives there, nobody has ever found out who does own the property, it is in praia de luz.....
not long after standing in front of this pyramid, (i think the photo was taken around the 5'th to 15'th may) the worlds government began to help!!

[ssyx]

sirnobjerkoff, what is that shape behind the McCann parents?

That is a strange picture indeed...

Mccanns deny they are going to make a movie
http://www.theage.com.au/news/film/mccanns-deny-plan-for-movie/2008/01/10/1199554785945.html

That would be really pushing it. It's already obscene that this circus is still going the way it is.

[illuminotti]

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/DAYS_101_to_150.htm

was hoping someone could help me another opinion on what gerry's drawn!!! plz click on the link scroll down and on the left theres pictures that run in a column, about half way down gerry has drawn and written about the campaign on a white board,

i was just wondering if anyone else found the shapes weird!!
looks like one big freemason symbol,

[mariag]

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/DAYS_101_to_150.htm

was hoping someone could help me another opinion on what gerry's drawn!!! plz click on the link scroll down and on the left theres pictures that run in a column, about half way down gerry has drawn and written about the campaign on a white board,

i was just wondering if anyone else found the shapes weird!!
looks like one big freemason symbol,

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/logistics.jpg
Is this what you meen? It does look like a freemason logo and btw it sais something about an under agenda, its there written on the paper:eek:

[mariag]

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/drawing.jpg

[illuminotti]

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/logistics.jpg
Is this what you meen? It does look like a freemason logo and btw it sais something about an under agenda, its there written on the paper:eek:


yes thats the one what do you think???

o' i think it says wider agenda, just the w i joined together...on every other word he uses the letter n it's in capital

i tried to post that picture a while back an it got taken down, so sorry about the long winded way of looking at it!!

[mentalogirl]

was hoping someone could help me another opinion on what gerry's drawn!!!
i was just wondering if anyone else found the shapes weird!!
looks like one big freemason symbol,[/QUOTE]


Someone else pointed that out on the Madeleine Symbolism Thread,look for it on the Symbolism forum.I think it was tintin who linked it to the Freemasons logo.

By the way I didn't read "under agenda" on the board,to me it looks more like "wider agenda"

[mariag]

yes thats the one what do you think???

o' i think it says wider agenda, just the w i joined together
aaah yes you are right it sais wider....
Yes it is a freemason logo of some sort :D

[tintin]

Yes, drawings look masonic.
Have looked at that blog,
found this picture of Madeleine.

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/m113.jpg

Madeleine as a Pumpkin.

Halloween. The most "holy" sacrifice days for the illumies.
We had the MEREDITH Halloween killing and Meredith Emerson
recently who was decapitated.

Meredith means GREAT LORD.
A Meredith without it's head.
Losing your head means doing stupid things of course....
(From a medical point of view "losing your head" is
not very healthy either....)

[mariag]

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/madelaineouisinfiona.jpg
This picture also from that blog , I find it anoying. The older girl is grabbing Maddie´s breast or so it seems:confused::confused:

[mentalogirl]

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/maddhands.jpg

I thought this looked very very odd...

[mariag]

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/maddhands.jpg

I thought this looked very very odd...
bloody handprints:eek:

[babe]

The first thing I saw on that website is the Monarch butterfly - a major give away... IMHO, that says more than all the drawings put together...(see last §).

Have anyone of you noticed that they're all born on a "5" day...? Just wondering.... Kate's being a Piscean.

They (Pisceans) tend to get carried away with their illusiory/delusional 'ideas', have a spiritual bend and because of their lack of using scrutiny when it's most asked for, end up often unconsciously misleading themselves as well as others... On a higher plane it also means suffering for humanity ('Jesus' was thought to have intially been born during the month of March - which would make him a Pisces instead of a Capricorn) or useless, self-sacrifice (IVF, and now this). In the tarot Pisces is represented through The Hanged Man as well as The Moon.

There's a whole lot more to this sign (ruled by Neptune - the planet of subtle vibrations, music, imagination [the film industry is ruled by Neptune], fraud, etc...too extensive to get into here for now, drugs & psychiatric/hospital involvement/treatment).

Gerry being a Gemini - In the tarot deck's major arcana they are 'The Magician' - the crafty magician who uses all the elements skillfully to 'manifest' what he wants. On a more sinister note 'The Magician' is referred as "The Trickster" using his gifts for more sinister ends.

The number "5" is ruled by Mercury, the planet of travel, o9f sales, of communication on all levels (languages, teaching) of collecting & gathering as well as passing on information. Thus, the whole circus (which is heavily dependant on 'communication' - including misleading info) fits perfectly to this couple - given that 'news, updates, information, "teaching" "' are utterly fitting to this whole situation.

Maddie as a little Sag born on 5th as well - I wouldn't be surprised at all if she'd feed the 'mystique' (first unwittingly, later on a much more deliberate note).

Like her mother, Maddie's going into a "9" year (the number of endings, of completion, of letting go). In addition, the no "9" is ruled by Jupiter (as is her birth sign, Sagittarius).

Now, if [I]that isn't some major indication as to what's ahead...I don't know what is.

From an energetic, vibrational p.o.v Maddie has a very, very weak emission. My intuition is that she's dead but that both Kate as well as Gerry are deluding themselves of finding her.

I feel that in any case, the result of coming face to face with this, which, it seems to me, will be directly linked to finding Maddie's body will more or less have considerable implications for the Western world (I doubt it's reached Asia, South America or Africa - these people have other priorities...!). Second half of the year it'll come to a close. I'm merely going on my gut & what I've picked up in terms of vibes.

This is looking at this whole 'thing' from a numerological, astrological level, something that is one of the cornerstones of free masonry... Rest assured my 'assumptions' aren't based on flippant 'facts' of newspapers, safe for the above link I had a quick look at.

There is a lot more to this, but this is enough for now...lest I should be accused once more of being 'arrogant' or a 'know-it-all'. Those who are interested can find plenty of resources on the web. Just use your own scrutiny - as usual....

The Monarch butterfly is the most in-your-face symbolism that you can hope to stumble across. Monarch mind control was carried on as a result of the 'officially shelved' MK-Ultra project. Maddie is a Monarch and by the looks of it, Gerry's her handler (go-between in exchnage for 'goods & favours'). Kate seems to not really know what's going on...a unsuspecting 'victim' of the set-up. Given Gerry's 'double' "5" (Gemini [Mercury] as well as being born on a Mercury ruled day, he's exceptionally crafty... A manipulator [magician] of the most 'exquisite' order...!!!)

[illuminotti]

Them are not the only odd pictures, keep searching through,
and babe, no i will not accuse you of been arrogant..........as long as you dont accuse me of waffling....
go on more, you got me interested, the monarch thing crossed my mind but i shelved it......

[phildee3]

From an energetic, vibrational p.o.v Maddie has a very, very weak emission. My intuition is that she's dead but that both Kate as well as Gerry are deluding themselves of finding her.

I feel that in any case, the result of coming face to face with this, which, it seems to me, will be directly linked to finding Maddie's body

By putting all of the pieces of the puzzle together, and thinking "outside the box," you will see that she is both "dead" and "alive."

A sacramental sacrifice; - a sacrafice.

[mentalogirl]

By putting all of the pieces of the puzzle together, and thinking "outside the box," you will see that she is both "dead" and "alive."

A sacramental sacrifice; - a sacrafice.


Can you be more specific?
What do you think actually happened?

[phildee3]

Can you be more specific?
What do you think actually happened?

See my first posting No.425, on page 43,
and all subsequent postings.

[babe]

By putting all of the pieces of the puzzle together, and thinking "outside the box," you will see that she is both "dead" and "alive."

A sacramental sacrifice; - a sacrafice.

I understand what you're saying - however, with all due respect, that seems to be taking it a bit over edge. No need to get 'hairier' than it already is. I think people have a tendency to have it grow out of proportion when the reality is at once a lot more straightforward & also 'simpler' than some individual's imagination leads them on to believe!

Staying level & 'matter of fact' & to a certain degree, being able to read & as well as interpret the symbols accordingly (and, correctly) within the context is plenty to go by. One doesn't need to blow it up bigger than necessary. The monarch butterfly is completely straightforward & utterly obvious to those who know what it stands for. No need to go 'overseas' (& overboard) in the process...

I don't feel that GWB's dinner has that much to do with Maddie's disappearance per se. Don't ever forget, Monarch works on a truly global level but not necessarily together... (Pyramid, anyone?) There are several powerbases over the globe, and D.C. is by far not the only one...

I feel that on a soul level Maddie's gone even though she may still be 'alive' physically. At least that's how I see it... Like somebody who's comatose - that's the energy around her...

A perfect analogy when it comes to mind control/sacrafice - an 'empty shell (body) to be ab-/misused for the master puppet's own ends...

And, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if the publication of 'finding' Maddie's body would be extremely staged...! Timing of this will be very carefully chosen to lead on to the 'next step'...!

And, last but not least, I wouldn't be surprised if Gerry went after Kate for this very specific purpose... Like I said, nothing is too far-fetched in this saga... Gerry, master con-artist... I doubt that this is/was the last of it...:cool:

mentalogirl, it doesn't make much sense to want to know "exactly what happened" because you will never know. That's what people have such a hard time with.

Keeping you in the dark is part of the control mechanism of fear & insecurity. Or allowing those 'left behind' (anyone catch the drift here...?) to come to a sense of closure. In other words, those that are behind it have you exactly where they want you. It's naive to think they'll "fill in the public".

If they do - don't even think about 'buying the 'official' story line...

I would've thought that most now have already realised that the media is not to be trusted - regardless from whatever angle they portend to want to 'update' the public...

The media, I intuit, is ruled by Mercury, too - and in this case, 'designed' to misinform the public... Manipulation is the name of the game - never forget that...

So, if I were you, I wouldn't hold my breath...:o

[phildee3]

I understand what you're saying - however, with all due respect, that seems to be taking it a bit over edge.

Like I said, nothing is too far-fetched in this saga...



will the real babe please stand up? :)

[phildee3]

I don't feel that GWB's dinner has that much to do with Maddie's disappearance per se. Don't ever forget, Monarch works on a truly global level but not necessarily together...


Good comment.
Synchronicities...
Remote links...



I feel that on a soul level Maddie's gone even though she may still be 'alive' physically. At least that's how I see it... Like somebody who's comatose - that's the energy around her...


If you turn this around diametrically;

if you look at this like:

"I feel that on a soul level Maddie's still here even though she may be 'dead' physically."

Wouldn't that give out the "same" energetic signature?

[ozmonsoon]

she shouted 'They've taken her' ....upon arriving at the 'crime' scene

The McCanns knew exactly who 'they' were

Madeleine had occult significance....the cold, pikey scott sold her for a few quid

They were clearly swingers trying to cover up their tracky trysts with the 'Tapas group'


:)

[ozmonsoon]

Gerry McCann's friendsreunited entry:

'Looking for a consultant job and shortlist is Glasgow, Liverpool, Leicester in fact pretty much anywhere north of Birmingham'

Evidence a plenty of their swinging status......

[phildee3]

Evidence a plenty of their swinging status......


What is the connection, iyo, between their being swingers and Maddie's disappearence?

I can't see one.

[babe]

if you look at this like:

"I feel that on a soul level Maddie's still here even though she may be 'dead' physically."

Wouldn't that give out the "same" energetic signature?
Um...not really...

There is a difference between a soul as in this case, having been stolen (and, which is in immediate relation to how sacrifice works on an energetic level) and a soul leaving of its own accord - which means that it is ready to freely move on to the next level.

As an example, a physically dead person who left in an utter state of trauma (such as murder, decapitation, a violent natural occurrence; i.e. earthquake, fire, drowning, or an accident) has a vibrationally very different 'imprint' on a soul-energy level than someone who has passed away peacefully in their sleep... Big difference.

So, even if the individual may be dead physically it doesn't mean that their soul is in peace, you know? That's why I feel & intiuit there are 'haunted places' that are frequently visited by those who didn't leave in peace... It's akin to 'unfinished business' if you like - the soul hasn't come to terms with how it was forced to go when it wasn't really ready (or, more easily put, 'asked').

As to the numerological significance, it occurred to me that the number "5" represents the 5 senses on the physical plane.

Incidentally, there is also the 5 pointed star...or, in other words, the pentagram...

I feel to really understand how this whole thing works (mind control as well as Free Masonry proper & its sense of manipulation of energies) one cannot omit getting to the nitty gritty with energy, vibration as well as the frequencies involved that make it even possible to manifest what they do... One cannot begin understand in depth unless has spent a considerable number of years really delving skin-deep into this from almost every angle possible...which is no small feat, to put it mildly...:rolleyes:

Part of it is having an astute awareness as to universal laws & how to manipulate energies within that context. On a very mundane level, free masonry is the opposite of white magic... Intention is what makes the whole difference. That changes the initial goal from, say 'white', 'good', 'positive', 'life-affirming', to 'black, 'nasty', 'demonic' & 'diabolic'.

[phildee3]

Um...not really...

There is a difference between a soul as in this case, having been stolen (and, which is in immediate relation to how sacrifice works on an energetic level) and a soul leaving of its own accord - which means that it is ready to freely move on to the next level.



You misunderstand me.
In either case Maddie would not have "moved on of her own accord."

Why are people so ready to resort to conflict without really trying to hear another's p of v?
This is the root problem on the planet right now, imo.



free masonry is the opposite of white magic...


Freemasonry is white magic - in the hands of a white magician!
It is only "dark" in the hands of a dark one.

This is the second worst cause of problems on the planet right now, imo.
People holding organizations responsible for our ills rather than people!

Evil exists in us ALONE;
and if you want to eliminate evil you must look WITHIN and overcome it there!


PS Ignorance and stubborness are forms of evil (imo).

[babe]

Hm...interesting that you seem to feel attacked when none of that was my real intention nor trying to distort your p.o.v.

Oh, well, internet is a source of misunderstandings so I'm not really surprised.

It's interesting to note that whenever somebody feels that they're being 'attacked' it's based on their own unacknowledged issues (whatever they may be).

It's easy to forget that "What we refuse to look at grows bigger" CWG, Neale D. Walsch) and what we see but as a mirror of ourselves becomes but another aspect to embrace & accept in our humanity. It's part of seeing & acknowledging our multi-dimensional nature, is all...

Oh, and, um, pls don't misunderstand this now as "yet another 'attack'"...

Peculiar that those who think they are misunderstood are acting accordingly when faced with somebody who has an opposite opinion to their own. Just for clarification's sake (lest you'd be feeling 'attacked' again...), I'm talking as much to myself as to anyone else who's reading this.

And yes, you can take it or leave it.

Whatever...

Er...as to 'freemasonry' being solely white magick - I don't necessarily agree (again, not to be misinterpreted as an 'attack' here - I honestly can't be asked to get into forum fights with anyone - it's just not worth my time & energy). Then again if you feel that you know what's what, who am I to argue? I can't be bothered to fidget over semantics...

All I'm saying is; energy is energy, period. Nothing more and nothing less. No need to get all worked up & twisted over it.

It's all in the intention of how one uses & channels energy.

Believe whatever you want to believe just don't think it gives you the 'liberty' to accuse me of being either stupid or evil. You don't know me so don't make assessments according to what I write within the context or frame of reference of your (mis-)understanding & (mis-)interpreting it as I intended it to be understood.

You are one sensitive bunny my friend. Don't need much to be triggered, or so it seems...

Build up the white energy if it helps you. Strengthen your energy shield with crystal blue. It'll help you feel less vulnerable.

Peace brother.

[phildee3]

Hm...interesting that you seem to feel attacked when none of that was my real intention nor trying to distort your p.o.v.

Attacked?
I don't feel attacked...


It's interesting to note that whenever somebody feels that they're being 'attacked' it's based on their own unacknowledged issues (whatever they may be).

Uh. okay!


Er...as to 'freemasonry' being solely white magick - I don't necessarily agree

Uh. I think you should actually read what people write before you reply to them!



(again, not to be misinterpreted as an 'attack' here - I honestly can't be asked to get into forum fights with anyone - it's just not worth my time & energy). Then again if you feel that you know what's what, who am I to argue? I can't be bothered to fidget over semantics...
All I'm saying is; energy is energy, period. Nothing more and nothing less. No need to get all worked up & twisted over it.

Uh. Who's getting worked up and twisted??


Believe whatever you want to believe just don't think it gives you the 'liberty' to accuse me of being either stupid or evil.

Uh. I did???

[mariag]

Brothers and sisters !!! stop attacking eachother , Love is the word Love is the key to everything.
Please don´t fight ....:(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oZYqAeIdYk

[babe]

Brothers and sisters !!! stop attacking eachother , Love is the word Love is the key to everything.
Please don´t fight ....:(
Thank you luv':) No, I'm actually not at all in a fightin' mood... Very neutral...

Oh well, I think I'm distracted...:o Mind & consciousness wandering n' stuff.... Am on a different plane energetically speaking... Zooming in n' out, so-to-speak...'checking in'...:rolleyes:

Oh, um...back to topic.

I feel Maddie's dead... Sept...this year...she'll be found...hm...or it will come 'to light'. In any case, I don't feel her to be alive anymore - literally as well as metaphorically.

And...um... I've a funny idea Gerry will be exposed...people are smelling the rotten 'egg'.

Just an intuition, though...

Uh... BTW, none of this is going on 'newspaper updates'... Just sensing things/picking up vibes...is all... Poor thing is dead...:( Maybe, who knows, it might be better for her, what with what went on before... She's already irreparably traumatised...

It's all very sad...:(

Uh...ah yes...'watch' for 'newspaper stories' coming out that will mislead to 'new ' discoveries 'finding' her...

More of the same, really...

The con will go on.

Still, nothing's cast in stone.... Then again, I'm not sure if it'd be better that I turn out to be wrong - in this case....:cool:

But even in death, I wouldn't be surprised if Gerry would 'use' Maddie's death in one form or other for his own agenda... It's really horrid....:mad:

[phildee3]

I'm actually not at all in a fightin' mood... Very neutral...

Me neither.



I feel Maddie's dead...

I hope you didn't change your mind (from message 1549) to avoid a fight.
We can disagree without fighting, you know?



I don't feel her to be alive anymore

I agree that her physical body is not alive.
But her spirit is. It was stolen by her sacraficers, and lives in them as their slave.

She needs to be freed from their captivity.
She has a strong will and is doing all she can to escape, but she needs our assistance.

[mariag]

Me neither.



I hope you didn't change your mind (from message 1549) to avoid a fight.
We can disagree without fighting, you know?



I agree that her physical body is not alive.
But her spirit is. It was stolen by her sacraficers, and lives in them as their slave.

She needs to be freed from their captivity.
She has a strong will and is doing all she can to escape, but she needs our assistance.

Yes and that is why it is so important to keep on spreading the love , we should concentrate on thinking positive and lovable thoughts towards both maddie and the parents. even if they are bastards and have sacrified her for derange reasons I do believe that they need love too and that we could actually turn the hatred with love. Hope you understand what i mean:D

[heathen]

Hello i am new to the forum but have lots of things to say... My opinion is that maddie and her family have been used as a weapon of mass distraction through out the media,distracting the masses from the real issues that are at hand, the whole thing stinks, id bet that maddies so called parents have signed the official secrets act at some point and have recieved there 30 pieces of silver... there story and its facts are like 911 and 7/7 things do not add up to say they are inteligent loveing parents, too much confusing info has camoflauged any logic into attaining a logical explanation..... keep an open mind.........

[phildee3]

Yes and that is why it is so important to keep on spreading the love , we should concentrate on thinking positive and lovable thoughts towards both maddie and the parents. even if they are bastards and have sacrified her for derange reasons I do believe that they need love too and that we could actually turn the hatred with love. Hope you understand what i mean

Totally,
...and agree 100%

...and we invoke thy blessing on all who willfully inflict suffering...
(from a prayer for the opressed).

[babe]

Mariag, I really like your soft energy...very sweet... Phildee, I'm glad we're kinda inadvertently coming to the same conclusion....:o

Uh...spreading the love vibe is a truly lovely idea (& certainly more conducive than sending its opposite...).

However, the reason why I have considerable reservations toward this whole 'lovey dovey' approach is explained below. I do not mean to be dismissive of it, just absolutely realistic as to what is at stake here...

Interestingly enough, yesterday I watched a talkshow wherein there were two opposite 'factions' debating the ability of picking up energies, 'seeing' angels & demons (so fitting then to this theme...) and what's interesting is that neither side was willing to concede to the other 'faction's point of view...

With that being said, I feel that this whole 'sending love, good vibes & energy' is a very delicate & tricky balancing act... When I say this, it is because I have witnessed myself what mind control can do to people, how very much & deep into their core, these people have been destroyed, incapable of 'owning up against' that which has been inflicted on them...

Which is why I would be very, very cautious to 'project' more power & energy into Maddie than one would be tempted (so alluring just so we have something to hold & cling on to - after all, there must be a way out, mustn't there?). It's certainly to be applauded & a very laudable intention but I sense there is ...um... real-life experience lacking behind this. But then again, I might be accused of being too sombre, dark, 'ignorant' or arrogant...

Sigh...

However, returning to one aspect I mentioned previously, it simply has to do with understanding how child psychology comes into play here...

A child that has been repeatedly traumatised (as I intuit it to be the case with Maddie), does not have the resources or defense mechanism that phildee would like to believe a child as young as Maddie possesses.... I know from my own experience...which was by far (and most likely) a lot 'milder' than what Maddie was put through.

Reality & make-believe (want-believe) often are not at all in concordance to the outcome of a given circumstance & situation.

People have a desperate need to believe that there is (must! be) a way out, whereas, the other is what it is.

No 'schnick schnack', no gimmicks - plain, in-yer-face's reality as it gets... There is often a major discrepancy between the two. Again, I speak of my experience because I used to be an idealist (and, on some level I still am but life has taught me 'to see things as they are' even if I don't like them...! Especially having repeatedely met & spent time with mind control victims from Asia to South Africa & Romania - a US Monarch mercenary who was trained from childhood onwards notwithstanding. When I met him, I learned that this guy - at the ripe 'old' age of 30 was retired from the US military - hadn't laughed in 15 years. Just to give you an idea).

As hard as it is to really come to terms with the harshness of what happened - because 'holding on' to a specific 'idea' of how a child or individual or situation is, will be, or is gravitating towards is, as peculiar as this may sound, also part of an unconscious inability to accept 'the situation & reality for what it is, the fact that it's not what you want to be.

It's over, phildee. Maddie's gone - on every level. Period.

And no, I don't feel Maddie's spirit "lives on in these people". If at all, that energy has been transformed (because that, too, is part of 'sacrifice' - if one doesn't realise this, one hasn't as yet grasped what the real purpose of sacrifice is) into that which serves these people in the advancement of their agenda. Plainly speaking, sacrifice is psychic vampirism taken to a completely different level... It's full of energetic imprinting...tied in with symbolism, astro-numerological interplay, male/female interaction, the purity of the "source" proper...and the conversion of all these elements into feeding themselves...

So, maybe phildee, it's time to just let it go - even if you hate & resist that idea with all your heart & might. To cling on to something is neither productive nor conducive to what Maddie at this stage really needs - a truly compassionate fare-well...

Yes, Maddie needs our help but maybe not the kind of 'help' you fathom... Sometimes letting go is the best you can do for a deceased person. Again, I speak of my own epxerience.

By 'projecting' your hopes - even if un-/subconsciously - onto those who have 'taken in' Maddie's spirit, you're inadvertently sending them energy that will feed them even more...which is why I have said that I have considerable reservations to sending out my energy blindly, nilly-willy...

And, I hate to break it to you, but these people are not receptive to love as you guys would think they are... It's like you're sending 'love energy' onto a "teflon wall". It just slips off them.

That's why I said, this is very, very complex & a lot trickier than it 'invites' one to believe or even imagine... It's a completely different dimension & within that realm, unless those involved willingly choose to leave that dimension behind, it's like you're trying to break through an invisible energy shield that you cannot access... The risk/delusion lies in the belief you're able to...

Use your energies well guys...don't waste it where it doesn't have any effect...

Multi-universes, dimensions...they co-exist, vibrating at different speeds, but not necessarily inter-connected... To some degree they're independent of each other...and, the point is that if you don't know where to focus (which universe/dimension) your energy, your 'love vibration' will be very weak & unfortunately not very effective either...

On top of that you have other entities interfering that will 'suck up' the energy you're sending for their own purposes...

Energetic work (because that's what we're talking about it here on a very mundane & plain level) is extremely difficult & full of pitfalls... I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just aware (due to my own experiences of having been in between worlds, so-to-speak) that nothing is as 'straightforward', as 'simply, merely sending love'...

[titan]

I fully expect Madeleine to be with her parents - alive - this Christmas.

She's been kidnapped. Tis all.

[magicmerlin]

Titan.....bit late for christmas, unless you mean next xmas?

And, I hate to break it to you, but these people are not receptive to love as you guys would think they are... It's like you're sending 'love energy' onto a "teflon wall". It just slips off them.

Babe, isn't this exact reason why it's still in the media....so that people pour out grief and pray for the girl....sending these people/entities energy - they feed off the weakness of human love and emotion. The one thing I dread is that maddie is actually found dead, because the funeral would be a MASSIVE event and would be like the all-time energy feast for the dark forces and god knows what would follow such an energy robbing?

[indigo]

Ok here are my thoughts over the last few weeks, Every time i put my thoughts on the mirror forum they get removed:mad: So he is what I think!

Gerrys blogs....They are there for this film, which has been planned in advanced, so too is kates diary. It's all a set up right? I don't need to ask you people that though do i? But I think gerrys blogs are away of keeping this story in the public eye and also to get the story together for the up and coming blockbuster:) And kates diary is for what happened in the weeks leading up to the dissapearance and all that;)

Now we read that Maddie has been raped and killed and thrown in a lake. How fucking sick is this story, coming from METADO3, who are getting paid £50,000 a month to lie for team mccann:mad:

Now lets face it, The Mccanns know they are not gonna get anymore donations because the public have turned against them. So now they can say she is dead, because they have a film deal, a film deal which is worth millions! So by saying she is dead wont matter now, the money will roll in regardless. A sympathy vote too, oh yes, 9 months later they tell everone they regret leaving their kids alone. A statement made in the back lash of a multi million pound movie. Another sympaty vote - A maddie lookalike. Just so we know there are people out there sicker than team mccann:mad:

I still belive this is a hoax and they are doing all in their power to make it look like maddie is dead, planting blood everywhere (what were those syringes for? not to sedate I doubt) Syringes to splatter blood to make it look so so much like death, and when Maddie is found alive, it will look like she has come back from the dead. The miracle they have all been waiting for! And lets face it, after th last scandle with in the Catholic church, they sure need more donations and more members:)

What was it Gerry said? Oh yeah '' Confusion is a good thing'';)

[indigo]

Another thing which pissed me off was an article i read in the sun today:mad: by Lorraine kelly she said this ''you either think the mccanns are completely innocent like me or you think they killed their kid'' How dare this fat freak put everone in just two categories:mad: GMTV seem to be so sucking up to this bullshit, it's unbelievable. They honestly think we are so fucking thick. That we don't have a brain to think it could be something more sinister. stubd bitch:mad:

[indigo]

And another thing while I am on the war path:mad:. Remember the campaign song 'don't you forget about me' by SIMPLE MINDS!:mad: I am so insulted by all this bullshit, I really am!:mad::mad::mad::mad:

[titan]

magicmerlin

I mean this christmas, 2008.

[phildee3]

...child psychology comes into play here...
A child that has been repeatedly traumatised (as I intuit it to be the case with Maddie), does not have the resources or defense mechanism that phildee would like to believe a child as young as Maddie possesses....


I have NEVER said that this was Maddie's fate.
On the contrary, I have always said that she was treated like gold!
- nor have I said that Maddie has "resources or defense mechanism" against traumatization.
You might enjoy living in la-la land and making up stuff, but DO NOT use my name in doing so.
You don't want a fight, huh?
Slander is hardly the way to show it!



I know from my own experience...which was by far (and most likely) a lot 'milder' than what Maddie was put through.



YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT MADDIE WAS "PUT THROUGH"!



As hard as it is to really come to terms with the harshness of what happened



So what did happen, O so well-informed one?

You keep saying that you "intuit" your infomation.
Well this just confirms what I have seen Maddie's fate to be, because intuition is completely reversed in one who has your degree of arrogance.
When you eat a little humble pie, and replace your "intuition" with real clairsentience, then you'll start seeing some truth.




It's over, phildee. Maddie's gone - on every level. Period.


Spirit never dies.




That energy has been transformed



Exactly.
You own contradiction speaks volumes.




...that, too, is part of 'sacrifice' - if one doesn't realise this, one hasn't as yet grasped what the real purpose of sacrifice is




You have a very narrow view of what sacrifice is.

But this is not about sacrifice; it's about sacrafice.
You don't have a clue what this thread is all about, do you?




And, I hate to break it to you, but these people are not receptive to love as you guys would think they are...


You love telling others what they think, don't you?
Well, you're wrong. We don't (at least, I don't).




I feel that this whole 'sending love, good vibes & energy' is a very delicate & tricky balancing act...

nothing is as 'straightforward', as 'simply, merely sending love'...

I know.

When you send them love, you "heap piles of burning coal upon their heads."

I'm very aware of this.

[babe]

Wow....!

I've never been the subject of such aggression by any forum member previously phildee. :(

Seems you've found your scapegoat to get rid of all your anger, frustration, irritation & hatred. I'm appalled at this lowly, extremey ugly display of utter contempt. I truly wonder what your issue with me is that you love to hate me to this degree - it's actually quite disturbing.

If it makes you happy(ier) which I strongly doubt given your contemptuous attitude towards me - yes, so - I'm an arrogant, ignorant, full-of-myself, idiotic bitch.

Feel better, more satisfied now?

You should be able to sleep better tonight.

You got what you wanted - I'm leaving.

But before doing so, I think I'll drop a line to the moderators to inform them of your despising & insulting manner of speech.

[mariag]

Wow....!

I've never been the subject of such aggression by any forum member previously phildee. :(

Seems you've found your scapegoat to get rid of all your anger, frustration, irritation & hatred. I'm appalled at this lowly, extremey ugly display of utter contempt. I truly wonder what your issue with me is that you love to hate me to this degree - it's actually quite disturbing.

If it makes you happy(ier) which I strongly doubt given your contemptuous attitude towards me - yes, so - I'm an arrogant, ignorant, full-of-myself, idiotic bitch.

Feel better, more satisfied now?

You should be able to sleep better tonight.

You got what you wanted - I'm leaving.

But before doing so, I think I'll drop a line to the moderators to inform them of your despising & insulting manner of speech.

Babe !
I don´t think that you should leave just beacuse someone is insulting you. don´t let his negative thoughts effect your spirit. don´t you know that angry people is angry beacuse they fear anger?
The only way you cab help him is showing love :eek:
I love You
Thank You

[lostinstrangeworld]

I just came along to see if there was any news.
Just for the record, I don't know what's going on in the Maddie case, but there's a good chance it could be for the microchip. Then again, we don't know- yet.

Anyway, I don't know what went on here just recently- but try not to take it too personally- this sort of thing seems to happen quite often over the internet- a bit like road rage I suppose.
Quite often communication difficulties/ misunderstandings arise through not being able to see a person's body language, hear their tone of voice, etc.

[splinterg]

I just came along to see if there was any news.
Just for the record, I don't know what's going on in the Maddie case, but there's a good chance it could be for the microchip. Then again, we don't know- yet.

Anyway, I don't know what went on here just recently- but try not to take it too personally- this sort of thing seems to happen quite often over the internet- a bit like road rage I suppose.
Quite often communication difficulties/ misunderstandings arise through not being able to see a person's body language, hear their tone of voice, etc.

Here here..well said

[phildee3]

Quite often communication difficulties/ misunderstandings arise through not being able to see a person's body language, hear their tone of voice, etc.

Quite often, yes.
But not in this case, I think: "It's over, phildee. Maddie's gone - on every level. Period."

Seems pretty cut and dried to me.
And the very thing that the elite are attempting.

They did it with Diana.
The princess was "maunfactured" (ie. through selective breeding) to be a vehicle for the goddess Diana, - patron of the free!
Her death was also a sacrafice. An attempt to bring her under their total control.

Maddie was manufactured in the lab as a vehicle for the spirit of Maria Magdalena - the feminine aspect of the Christos - the embodiment of love and compassion.

It is imperitive for the elite globalist agenda that the power and influence of these deities be nullified.

They then attempt to do this through a theophagelogical rite (look up theophagy, folks!).

Our thoughts can contribute to their success, - or the lack of it.
If you think they are "gone - on every level. Period," you are assisting the global control agenda, but if we think of them as present in spirit it can help to free them from the captivity of the "reptilians."

MM has, figuratively, been cut up and divided into many parts which were then widely distributed (through the media campaign), but if we think of her as whole, we can re-member her as the feminine aspect of the indivisible Christos, - the savior of mankind!

[babe]

This is my last & final post in this matter & it confirms what I have been intuiting all along. Given that Stewart is not only a medical intuitive (I have worked with him personally & I know his readings are accurate - not just through my own little person but from other people as well that I spent time with) as well as very knowledgeable.

Why else would David have a link on his main page to Stewart's? If you have a look at his page, and you browse through it, you'll understand why, and so I thought that if anyone is really fit to answer this question & put it to rest once & for all, it is Stewart - who I consider to be the real McCoy and who knows a great deal more than most of us put together (in every sense of the word, including the history, origin of human beings, the NWO, Illuminati, geographical as well as political forecasts, etc, etc).

Or to put it more plainly:

This guy knows what he's talking about & I have as much respect for his knowledge than I have for David Icke's expertise. Stewart takes it to an entirely different level, though...

So, I sent Stewart an email yesterday to ask his opinion about this whole sorry tale. The 1st part is my question to him, the 2nd is his reply. Pls also note that I have no subscription to his news letter.

It should be noted that this is my first & only email to Stewart re Maddie.
For those who need confirmation, just click on his webpage link & you'll see my question in the Q&A section on the right hand side.

Of course one can go & attack him as well but you had better be careful with this guy because he not only has an enormous of knowledge, he truly reads people (and I don't mean that just literally).

Verbatim transcript:

Maddie
Posted: January, 13, 2008
Hi Stewart,
I'm sure you've heard of Maddie McCann's disappearance in Portugal. The case has unleashed a media frenzy that even had the Pope & the UK's PM speak out on the McCann's behalf. There has been a vivid debate if 3 yr old Maddie (who fits the Monarch 'candidates' to a 'T') was truly abducted or whether her father, whose blog has a Monarch butterfly at the top, set up the whole charade for more sinister purposes given the attention the case has received. I have also been wondering if she's still alive or if she's already dead & if so, whether she's been sacraficed in a satanic ritual.

Stewart's Reply: I've written about this a lot. Please go back and read past news stories about this.

She is dead. Sacrificed in ritual. Her parents left her alone for a reason. Who does that in a strange country?

There is an Illuminati Rite where a parent gives up a child in sacrifice to show loyalty and dedication. The parent is then elevated in rank. Look at the history of John Edwards & the Kennedy's.

[lostinstrangeworld]

Yeah, the bastards haven't won yet.

Her spirit will live on forever, and one day the whole system which perpetuates cruelty on so many levels will fall.

[babe]

What's that line in "The Godfather III" where Pacino is in the kitchen with his 'family' & he goes: "Every time I try to leave, they pull me back in!" - says little me.:rolleyes:

Lostinstrangeworld:
Maybe it would be worth asking Stewart? I assure you he will give an answer that might shake your idealism up a bit. (And please if you really want to gather some insights, he is very knowledgeable - including on health issues & how to improve your health - I intuit he'd be right down your line - it's all in the head, right?;))

Part of the problem, as I have said previously, is an unwillingness to see reality for what it is & where we really are - even on a spiritual plane - rather than we "wishful think" the (spiritual) world to be...:o

I actually have serious doubts that Maddie's singular spirit is 'still alive & will live on forever'... The spiritual realm is by far not as obviously straightforward as New Age has led a lot of people to assume or believe...

It betrays a certain...uh...well...naivete, if I can put it that way, as to how Mind Control & satanic ritual really work & what effect they have on the victim.

It's not that I don't want to believe in it - it's to do with a complete awareness as to how distorted a spirit ends up after a human being has been subject to satanic ritual abuse.

And, if everybody had your idealistic but unrealistic outlook, the world would have been under control by the Illuminati even sooner. I'm really sorry to say this but if you don't know what you're dealing with you're 'idealising' blindly, you know?

And by doing so, you end up being a puppet... (BTW, films are a major tool of programming & mass mind control...some of your favourite films are).

To put it bluntly: you're but a disposable toy in these guys hands - to be used & thrown away - literally, figuratively, spiritually. The cruelty is beyond your imagination or what you can even begin to fathom.

And I don't mean that in any way to be misunderstood as underestimating you or wanting to put you down (you know I don't). It just has to do with grasping the whole extent of this, the levels & a manipulating of levels you have no idea even exist...

Sorry luv'...:o

[lostinstrangeworld]

Well blow up the whole of this creation then.

[phildee3]

Of course one can go & attack him as well but you had better be careful with this guy because he not only has an enormous of knowledge, he truly reads people (and I don't mean that just literally).



Oooo, I'm soo scared; - I'd better pretend that I agree with Swerdlow, huh? - even though he's saying what I've said all along!

Oh, and this is not my final and last message to this forum.

[phildee3]

btw, I don't hate you, babe,

I just hate your fucking lies,

and the tangled web you weave with them!

[tintin]

Oooo, I'm soo scared; - I'd better pretend that I agree with Swerdlow, huh? - even though he's saying what I've said all along!

Oh, and this is not my final and last message to this forum.

Then fuck off to some SISSY forum, cissy,

[mariag]

Guys! please!
LOVE EACHOTHER THIS DOES NOT HELP THE WORLD TO GAIN PEACE AND POSITIVE ENERGY

http://bp3.blogger.com/_sY5ZO-sXY3Y/RkMPxBuKeEI/AAAAAAAAA38/P8T0jLijafQ/s400/love.jpg

[lostinstrangeworld]

Guys! please!
LOVE EACHOTHER THIS DOES NOT HELP THE WORLD TO GAIN PEACE AND POSITIVE ENERGY

http://bp3.blogger.com/_sY5ZO-sXY3Y/RkMPxBuKeEI/AAAAAAAAA38/P8T0jLijafQ/s400/love.jpg

:)

Well said.

[mariag]

AND IT DOES NOT HELP MADDIE AT ALL.PLEASE STOP THE FIGHT

http://www.ghostcircles.com/mike/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/roses.jpg

[babe]

P3 , I don't make up any "f***** lies" much to your disappoint (and to be hated so passionately! it's kinda oddly "off" funny to me now because...well... like tintin said, a sissy is a cissy is a sissy).

If one can't deal with reality as is one will never resolve it - that's what David's work is about to a large degree (in case people have missed the obvious...)

It really surprises me to find that there are quite a few ...uh...people who seem to be on his forum but seem to completely not get what David has been trying to make us look at... That they would rather go by their own, self-made 'new age' gobbledegook (which is part of the Illuminati programming...) than truly wake up to the distortions of the world we ended up living in precisely because of this denial...

The refusal to see & acknowledge this is an immediate reflection of not wanting to admit the fear of having to face what is... One cannot expect to help resolve cases such as Maddie's (which is by far not the only one) by being in denial towards what is & what has happened.

I repeat what Neale D. Walsch (P3 is most likely going to attack this one as well because they seem to have made it a 'sports of sorts' to attack anything I mention anyway, so it doesn't really matter anymore...it's just getting a bit old & boring by now) has said in his first CWG book (which, IMHO, was his best of the whole series):

What you refuse to look at grows bigger. What you look at loses its power over you

The refusal to 'see' leads to more of the same.

Hence, more abductions, more ritual murders & killings while those who claim to be 'awake' turn a blind eye to what is really going on behind the scenes that even allow such atrocities to be carried out...

And, no, lostinstrangeworld, it has not to do with 'blowing up this place'. That is going from one extreme to another & it will perpetuate the very same energy into other dimensions...

My only real intention has been to shed some light on this issue & by doing so, to raise awareness of the machinations that allow such abductions & murders to occur, to become more astute in watching our environment & to not fall as easily prey to the lies that people like the media (or even inadvertently, people who live by & through their delusional concept of reality) would like us to believe.

As I have said previously (& I am sorry to repeat myself), MC has a lot to do with it & if one is not aware, nor does one understand how it really works, one is basically missing 3/4 of the picture, metaphorically as well as literally speaking.

I really would've thought that people logging on to David's site would at least understand that fundamental aspect of his work. As if you're reading about GM food but then you're surprised to find you've been buying GM food all along... Like, it has nothing to do with you?

Very strange...

Why do they even bother to come here? It's like they're all reading this but it hasn't hit home...as if it were some kind of 'off' "entertainment" because:

"Hey, it's just a website, right?"

It never ceases to amaze me that people so blatantly miss the obvious...

The media would have you 'buy' anything if you don't use your own scrutiny - including the 'spiritual bend'. Spiritual is not the same as being new agey.... I do make a big difference... There's plenty of new agey folks that are completely programmed... and thus, more easily 'used' to the Illuminati's purposes...

For those who do not know (or can't be bothered) history are likely to repeat it.

'Just' being spiritually aware isn't enough... Discernment is crucial.

One has to question what one believes & keep a regular 'check' on this...being watchful that one isn't being carried away with something that "sounds really good" but has no real substance or anything of value... Also, there's a big difference between believing ('thinking' one knows) and knowledge from the source proper (I am not talking about Stewart Swerdlow here).

at all what we'll find. I am pretty certain that David doesn't rest with just 'one solution/answer/reply'.... If that were the case, I'd be very surprised, to put it mildly...

Including Maddie's way of passing...]

As I have said before, energy is energy. It doesn't matter whether you call it white magick, Free Masonry, quantum physics, healing, bodywork, reiki, or, black magick, satanic ritual (which most always includes sexual abuse), 'calling on the dark forces', etc....

It's all energy, no matter which way one would like to twist & turn it (& yes, I can hear P3 already shouting: "Murder! F***** liar! Ignorant bitch!" :rolleyes: again...). The language this uh ... 'being' ... uses is ugly, degrading & completely OTT - I dare say, they're hysterical.

Whatever their issue is, it doesn't belong here. They need to get themselves cleared of their own venom because it eats them up & it'll end up destroying them...feeding off itself.

And yes, mariag, this sorry debate doesn't help Maddie, but as I have said, the best we can do for her is to let go of her - and let her rest in peace.

To 'use' her & 'tear her apart' on this forum adds insult to injury (...and, yes, she's unfortunately been used as a 'shield' by some lesser "whitey, white" folks for those very purposes to attack other members on this forum).

I have felt nothing but sorrow & sadness over what she had to go through.

May she rest in peace & may she find solace in the arms of the All-the-Is.:o

[phildee3]

I can hear P3 already shouting: "Murder! F***** liar! Ignorant bitch!" :rolleyes: again...).


Then there is definately something wrong with your ears.

All I'm doing is slowly shaking my head.

Can we get back on topic now?

[mariag]

P3 , I don't make up any "f***** lies" much to your disappoint (and to be hated so passionately! it's kinda oddly "off" funny to me now because...well... like tintin said, a sissy is a cissy is a sissy).

If one can't deal with reality as is one will never resolve it - that's what David's work is about to a large degree (in case people have missed the obvious...)

It really surprises me to find that there are quite a few ...uh...people who seem to be on his forum but seem to completely not get what David has been trying to make us look at... That they would rather go by their own, self-made 'new age' gobbledegook (which is part of the Illuminati programming...) than truly wake up to the distortions of the world we ended up living in precisely because of this denial...

The refusal to see & acknowledge this is an immediate reflection of not wanting to admit the fear of having to face what is... One cannot expect to help resolve cases such as Maddie's (which is by far not the only one) by being in denial towards what is & what has happened.

I repeat what Neale D. Walsch (P3 is most likely going to attack this one as well because they seem to have made it a 'sports of sorts' to attack anything I mention anyway, so it doesn't really matter anymore...it's just getting a bit old & boring by now) has said in his first CWG book (which, IMHO, was his best of the whole series):

What you refuse to look at grows bigger. What you look at loses its power over you

The refusal to 'see' leads to more of the same.

Hence, more abductions, more ritual murders & killings while those who claim to be 'awake' turn a blind eye to what is really going on behind the scenes that even allow such atrocities to be carried out...

And, no, lostinstrangeworld, it has not to do with 'blowing up this place'. That is going from one extreme to another & it will perpetuate the very same energy into other dimensions...

My only real intention has been to shed some light on this issue & by doing so, to raise awareness of the machinations that allow such abductions & murders to occur, to become more astute in watching our environment & to not fall as easily prey to the lies that people like the media (or even inadvertently, people who live by & through their delusional concept of reality) would like us to believe.

As I have said previously (& I am sorry to repeat myself), MC has a lot to do with it & if one is not aware, nor does one understand how it really works, one is basically missing 3/4 of the picture, metaphorically as well as literally speaking.

I really would've thought that people logging on to David's site would at least understand that fundamental aspect of his work. As if you're reading about GM food but then you're surprised to find you've been buying GM food all along... Like, it has nothing to do with you?

Very strange...

Why do they even bother to come here? It's like they're all reading this but it hasn't hit home...as if it were some kind of 'off' "entertainment" because:

"Hey, it's just a website, right?"

It never ceases to amaze me that people so blatantly miss the obvious...

The media would have you 'buy' anything if you don't use your own scrutiny - including the 'spiritual bend'. Spiritual is not the same as being new agey.... I do make a big difference... There's plenty of new agey folks that are completely programmed... and thus, more easily 'used' to the Illuminati's purposes...

For those who do not know (or can't be bothered) history are likely to repeat it.

'Just' being spiritually aware isn't enough... Discernment is crucial.

One has to question what one believes & keep a regular 'check' on this...being watchful that one isn't being carried away with something that "sounds really good" but has no real substance or anything of value... Also, there's a big difference between believing ('thinking' one knows) and knowledge from the source proper (I am not talking about Stewart Swerdlow here).

at all what we'll find. I am pretty certain that David doesn't rest with just 'one solution/answer/reply'.... If that were the case, I'd be very surprised, to put it mildly...

Including Maddie's way of passing...]

As I have said before, energy is energy. It doesn't matter whether you call it white magick, Free Masonry, quantum physics, healing, bodywork, reiki, or, black magick, satanic ritual (which most always includes sexual abuse), 'calling on the dark forces', etc....

It's all energy, no matter which way one would like to twist & turn it (& yes, I can hear P3 already shouting: "Murder! F***** liar! Ignorant bitch!" :rolleyes: again...). The language this uh ... 'being' ... uses is ugly, degrading & completely OTT - I dare say, they're hysterical.

Whatever their issue is, it doesn't belong here. They need to get themselves cleared of their own venom because it eats them up & it'll end up destroying them...feeding off itself.

And yes, mariag, this sorry debate doesn't help Maddie, but as I have said, the best we can do for her is to let go of her - and let her rest in peace.

To 'use' her & 'tear her apart' on this forum adds insult to injury (...and, yes, she's unfortunately been used as a 'shield' by some lesser "whitey, white" folks for those very purposes to attack other members on this forum).

I have felt nothing but sorrow & sadness over what she had to go through.

May she rest in peace & may she find solace in the arms of the All-the-Is.:o

I think and I hope that she is already there poor maddie

[ayesha]

In Iridology the mark on Madeline's right eye suggests problems with her lungs,eg:Asthmatic,bronchial

[mazzie]

Hi everyone,

I do not know if this has been posted before, but do people think poor Madeline may have been sacraficed? Look at the facts; the whole story has a very sinister and strange feel to it, in the UK and I believe all over the world the MEDIA HAS GONE MAD for this. Her parents also has a very strange air to them. The little girl is fair with blue eyes. Why the huge media push! Are some sick people feeding off human emotion again?
I totally agree that the parents dont have the ora that they have just lost their beloved beautiful little girl. I am under the impression that Maddys uniqueness i.e her unusual eyes was already known about before she was abducted, how? Did her parents advertise her to these sick organisations and cults? Were they part of one of these "groups" themselves and agreed to her demise? I know for sure people watching her from a distance in a holiday resort or where ever wouldn't have been able to see that fine detail for sure.

[splinterg]

The Mirror....are reporting another Madeleine abduction

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2008/01/15/police-hunt-for-new-madeleine-missing-girl-5-89520-20286777/

Abducted from Huelva the Mccanns drove through here apparantley with the belief that whoever abducted their little girl would of driven through this town

Relevant?

[phildee3]

The Mirror....are reporting another Madeleine abduction

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2008/01/15/police-hunt-for-new-madeleine-missing-girl-5-89520-20286777/

Abducted from Huelva the Mccanns drove through here apparantley with the belief that whoever abducted their little girl would of driven through this town

Relevant?

Kate and Gerry visited Huelva once. They visited a helva lot of other places too, so this doesn't look too relevent.
120 miles is a pretty good distance too.
(how many abductions have there been, since Maddie, in the miles between??!!).

But I think they might be using the Portugal connection to subliminally trigger a connection in the public consciousness.

The biggie (again) is in the name:
Mariluz is two names joined together.
Maria (oh really!) and light (mmmmm!).

Cortesa is a Spanish surname meaning "of the royal court"
(well, well, well!).


.."abducted on Sunday..."
This may be relevent too;
abducted on a Sunday, - in Catholic Spain/Portugal.

PS.
"Paedophile gangs" is a decoy to make us look for a bunch of roughnecks.
The real culprits are much more sophisticated and wear suits and ties.

[pri01]

Have a look at the coat of arms for Huelva, notice the little dungeon. It's very similar to the one you see on Maddies Everton shirt.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Escudo_Huelva.svg




1596

[phildee3]

Have a look at the coat of arms for Huelva, notice the little dungeon. It's very similar to the one you see on Maddies Everton shirt.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Escudo_Huelva.svg

1596

mmmm...
solid foundation - growth - security.
Pretty universal themes, aren't they?

[pri01]

mmmm...
solid foundation - growth - security.
Pretty universal themes, aren't they?

I remember reading somewhere on this thread or news behind the news that there maybe some significance behind the dungeon image on the Everton shirt Maddie is wearing. That it may have some relevance in terms of her being held captive-in a secure place. The dungeon on the shirt is the image of a real unused building in Liverpool that used to be some sort of lock up/prison.

[phildee3]

The dungeon on the shirt is the image of a real unused building in Liverpool that used to be some sort of lock up/prison. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

Can you find out what/where this is?

I might have a relevent link.

[pri01]

Can you find out what/where this is?

I might have a relevent link.


The building is located in the area of Everton.

If you scroll down Wiki page to the section on the football crest it gives a small account.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everton_F.C.

[carlperkins]

In Iridology the mark on Madeline's right eye suggests problems with her lungs,eg:Asthmatic,bronchial

Hi ayesha, I looked up Iridology a while back for that and it looked like it was in connection with her ovaries which I thought was significant. I did find the charts difficult to read though, pehaps you have better information. Are you a specialist? I've followed this post from the begining and have now registered to make that one point and question. Oh well, here goes.

[phildee3]

I remember reading somewhere on this thread or news behind the news that there maybe some significance behind the dungeon image on the Everton shirt Maddie is wearing. That it may have some relevance in terms of her being held captive-in a secure place. The dungeon on the shirt is the image of a real unused building in Liverpool that used to be some sort of lock up/prison.

As I thought, the tower on the Everton logo is a "bridewell."

MM is the bride of the Christ Jesus (Maddie was a substitute for MM, - for the purpose of the ritual disempowering of the Light of the World).
This is more significant than the image signifying her being imprisoned, which comes into play with the tyranny of Henry VIII who imposed his own "NWO" on Britain by sacking the monasteries and other, powerful sacred sites such as the wells dedicated to Bride/Bridget by building prisons on them!
There is a parallel here with Henry's tyranny and that of our present day elite; - as they are trying world enslavement today, back then it was Henry's Britain.
For this reason, I still don't see the tower, in the Heluva logo, as being a prison, - bridewells are only in Britain.
Portus maris et terrae custodia translates as "gateway to the sea and guardian of the land." The tower here looks like a fort to me - defending the land.

btw, Henry VIII executed the last abbott (Richard Whiting) after destroying the last and most powerful monastery (Glastonbury) in a ritual re-enactment of Calvery on the Tor.
To this day, our monarch is heir to the spoils of this sick rite.
The MM sacrafice is but a continuation of it - to cover the feminine aspect, which was beginning to gain an unacceptable popularity.

[magicmerlin]

From wikip.......

The crest was accompanied by the club motto, "Nil Satis Nisi Optimum", meaning NOTHING BUT THE BEST IS GOOD ENOUGH'

If we are looking for hidden messages/symbolism....

Then maybe it's saying ''nothing but Maddie, the perfect child will do''.


Also, the phrase Portus maris et terrae custodia translates as "gateway to the sea and guardian of the land." ..... if you look at the new mural for Liverpool, it features Neptune, I don't know if this is in any way linked to symbolic groups etc?

[phildee3]

If we are looking for hidden messages/symbolism....

Then maybe it's saying ''nothing but Maddie, the perfect child will do''.



This belongs on the branch thread Madeline sacrifice symbolism, I think, merlin.

It's just way too tenuous, imo.

[ayesha]

Hi ayesha, I looked up Iridology a while back for that and it looked like it was in connection with her ovaries which I thought was significant. I did find the charts difficult to read though, pehaps you have better information. Are you a specialist? I've followed this post from the begining and have now registered to make that one point and question. Oh well, here goes.

Yes you are very correct,well done for catching onto it,the mark on Madeline's right eye corresponds to her ovaries.You know as much as I do, keep investigating this area as could lead to much more information on her real life away from the public inquisition :cool:

[kweli]

The Mirror....are reporting another Madeleine abduction

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2008/01/15/police-hunt-for-new-madeleine-missing-girl-5-89520-20286777/

Abducted from Huelva the Mccanns drove through here apparantley with the belief that whoever abducted their little girl would of driven through this town

Relevant?

Does anyone know if they found the little spanish girl? There doesn't seem to have been any media coverage here since it was first reported.

[seaweed]

Today, UK tabloid The News of The World printed a sketch of the latest Madeleine suspect:

http://shutter09.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/24/007/7D/FE/2D/6E/7GB6QRsi-qqhYWuHo35mKt4UP0LIaDc701A6.jpg




Surely they're not trying to pin this on George Harrison?! :p

.

[phildee3]

Today, UK tabloid The News of The World printed a sketch of the latest Madeleine suspect:

http://shutter09.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/24/007/7D/FE/2D/6E/7GB6QRsi-qqhYWuHo35mKt4UP0LIaDc701A6.jpg



This new drawing is from the McCann team, who are undermining the original drawing, which, after consulting the Akashic records, I can confirm is accurate.

This one is a decoy.

[sir nob jerkoff]

This new drawing is from the McCann team, who are undermining the original drawing, which, after consulting the Akashic records, I can confirm is accurate.

This one is a decoy.

What? The man carrying a child away on May 3rd as reported by Jane Tanner - close friend of the McCanns - and who changed her story several times - was accurate!? So you believe Madeleine was abducted? Has Rupert Murdoch bought up the Akashic Records or something? :confused:

[phildee3]

So you believe Madeleine was abducted?



No.
Gerry gave Maddie to him.

[sir nob jerkoff]

No.
Gerry gave Maddie to him.

I have followed this case quite closely since the end of May and would have to disagree with this. I think the 'bundle man' as he is called at the Mirror's Madeleine forum is a decoy. If you look into the timelines of parental checking and other details, this part of the story doesn't add up. Jane Tanner has, in my opinion, proved herself to be an unreliable witness. And she is part of the McCann camp.

[sir nob jerkoff]

Also, just posting a link to some interesting pics i posted in this thread (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9716&highlight=masonic+madeleine+mccann&page=6). The whole thread is an excellent read though.

[phildee3]

If you look into the timelines of parental checking and other details, this part of the story doesn't add up.



It most certainly does.

Take another look with this in mind; -
that Gerry gave Maddie to him.

[sir nob jerkoff]

It most certainly does.

Not the "official" one,
but mine does!

Then your version seems to tally, in part at least, with that of the McCanns? I believe that whole part of the story is entirely fabricated to lend weight to the abduction theory.

[sir nob jerkoff]

Take another look with this in mind; -
that Gerry gave Maddie to him.

Jane Tanner saw what the McCanns wanted her to see. Conveniently.

[phildee3]

Jane Tanner saw what the McCanns wanted her to see. Conveniently.

Why would the McCanns want her to see Maddie being taken from the front right after Gerry left by the back?

[sir nob jerkoff]

Why would the McCanns want her to see Maddie being taken from the front right after Gerry left by the back?

To 'lend weight' to the abduction theory?

Gerry certain he was in bedroom with kidnapper (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/09/21/nmaddy521.xml)

[phildee3]

Gerry certain he was in bedroom with kidnapper (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/09/21/nmaddy521.xml)

He has to say this beacuse there is too much evidence that it is true!

I don't see that it gives weight to the "abduction theory" at all.

How do you think it does??

[pri01]

He has to say this beacuse there is too much evidence that it is true!

I don't see that it gives weight to the "abduction theory" at all.

How do you think it does??

If I were to be contributary to a crime my game plan would ensure that a credible witness, see an alternative outcome to cover my tracks and create a diversion. It makes absolute sense to me and gives weight to Gerry's abduction theory.

How do any of us know that this is a genuine abduction? We know about the story via state controlled media. This could all be an elaborate hoax.

1602

[phildee3]

If I were to be contributary to a crime my game plan would ensure that a credible witness, see an alternative outcome to cover my tracks and create a diversion.



but the witness confirms that Gerry was there at the time Maddie was taken!

If Jane Tanner's evidence is fabricated, why not make it later?

Am I missing something?

[pri01]

but the witness confirms that Gerry was there at the time Maddie was taken!

If Jane Tanner's evidence is fabricated, why not make it later?

Am I missing something?


You missed this......................

How do any of us know that this is a genuine abduction? We know about the story via state controlled media. This could all be an elaborate hoax.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1602&d=1200865329

[phildee3]

You missed this......................
How do any of us know that this is a genuine abduction? We know about the story via state controlled media. This could all be an elaborate hoax.


No I didn't miss that.
Nor am I unfamiliar with the notion that everything is an illusion,
and that this forum might be a figment of my imagination, etc. etc.

but I think that's another thread...

[angelmoon]

i dare barely say this but as i was listening to David's video he was mentioning the chipping of children and i the thought crossed my mind that it could be a propaganda exercise to frighten more parents into chipping there children ?
the coverage this little girl has been given is unprecedented as thousands of people go missing each year, i wonder how the parents of missing children feel about the coverage , but i guess it is such an emotive subject no one will question it

[phildee3]

i dare barely say this but as i was listening to David's video he was mentioning the chipping of children and i the thought crossed my mind that it could be a propaganda exercise to frighten more parents into chipping there children ?


deja vu...

[mariag]

i dare barely say this but as i was listening to David's video he was mentioning the chipping of children and i the thought crossed my mind that it could be a propaganda exercise to frighten more parents into chipping there children ?
the coverage this little girl has been given is unprecedented as thousands of people go missing each year, i wonder how the parents of missing children feel about the coverage , but i guess it is such an emotive subject no one will question it

"suffer the little children and walk away a saviour" Of course it is a plan for the chip .. Thats why its such a big deal with madeleine , so that parents tend to act in scar of abductions of their kids so that they can be tricked into chipping them:(

[sir nob jerkoff]

No I didn't miss that.
Nor am I unfamiliar with the notion that everything is an illusion,
and that this forum might be a figment of my imagination, etc. etc.

but I think that's another thread...

No disrespect Phildee, but couldn't the same be said about the Akashic records confirming the legitimacy of the first - faceless - photofit Jane Tanner described to police as opposed to this latest one which she now states 'strongly resembles' the person she 'saw' carrying a child on the night Madeleine was 'abducted'?

McCann family friend Jane Tanner says the sketch 'strongly resembles' the man she saw carrying a child wearing pyjamas identical to Madeleine's on the night of the abduction (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23433225-details/McCanns:%20This%20is%20the%20face%20of%20the%20man %20who%20snatched%20Madeleine/article.do)

[phildee3]

No I didn't miss that.
Nor am I unfamiliar with the notion that everything is an illusion,
and that this forum might be a figment of my imagination, etc. etc.

but I think that's another thread...


No disrespect Phildee, but couldn't the same be said about the Akashic records confirming........

No.
I am looking at what happened,
the two of you are focusing on what didn't happen.
This thread has always been about trying to figure out what did happen.



the legitimacy of the first - faceless - photofit Jane Tanner described to police as opposed to this latest one which she now states 'strongly resembles' the person she 'saw' carrying a child on the night Madeleine was 'abducted'?

McCann family friend Jane Tanner says the sketch 'strongly resembles' the man she saw carrying a child wearing pyjamas identical to Madeleine's on the night of the abduction (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23433225-details/McCanns:%20This%20is%20the%20face%20of%20the%20man %20who%20snatched%20Madeleine/article.do)

I agree that Jane Tanner is a friend of the McCanns/illuminati and her testamony since conspiring with them is compromised.

Her original statement, however, was before any conspiracy took place.

[pri01]

No.
I am looking at what happened,
the two of you are focusing on what didn't happen.
This thread has always been about trying to figure out what did happen.



I agree that Jane Tanner is a friend of the McCanns/illuminati and her testamony since conspiring with them is compromised.

Her original statement, however, was before any conspiracy took place.

I would like to think that I focus on the process of elimination sometimes. But that's another discussion.

I'm interested to hear about Tanner's original statement though before any conspiracy took place. What do you mean by that?

[sir nob jerkoff]

No.
I am looking at what happened,
the two of you are focusing on what didn't happen.
This thread has always been about trying to figure out what did happen.



I agree that Jane Tanner is a friend of the McCanns/illuminati and her testamony since conspiring with them is compromised.

Her original statement, however, was before any conspiracy took place.

A few points to consider:

1. "She admitted that at first she could not bring herself to tell Kate what she had seen because she knew it would break the heart of the anguished mother". link (http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/25735/I-m-haunted-by-Maddy-s-kidnapper)

2. She changed her story (times, direction she was walking etc) as well as the height of the man. The Portuguese police don't seem to value her testimony too highly.

Ms Tanner insists she has done everything to help with the police investigation but decided to talk to the media after being called "a liar and a fantasist".

"I know what I saw and I think it's important that people know what I saw because I believe Madeleine was abducted," she said.
(She's "knows what she saw" yet her description changed and she has now decided that the latest 'George Harrison' sketch is the same man - despite having originally stated she couldn't make out his face at all.)

3. It was the McCanns themselves who commissioned an artist's impression of what Tanner (supposedly) saw.

Last month the McCanns released artist's sketches of a man drawn by an FBI-trained forensic artist using details from Ms Tanner. link (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7098390.stm)
The artist, commissioned by private detectives working for the McCanns, left the man's face blank as Ms Tanner was unsure about some details.

And after watching the video of her, i would say my impression of her is also that of a liar and fantasist.

“In an emotional interview Jane Tanner, a close friend of Kate and Gerry and one of the Tapas Nine, spoke of her ‘horrible realisation I had seen the abductor and done nothing’”

It is a “riveting TV special”

Says Tapas Jane: “I’m talking now because I’m being called a liar and a fantasist. I know what I saw, I know the truth… All of us have told the truth. There is no cover up, or lying”

Madeleine McCann - One more witness contradicts Jane Tanner statement (http://www.nowpublic.com/crime/madeleine-mccann-one-more-witness-contradicts-jane-tanner-statement-0)

A teenager, who was with her family at Ocean Club, saw Gerry McCann and Jeremy Wilkins talking, the night Madeleine disappeared – but she didn't saw Jane Tanner or a man carrying a child. The girl wasn't in the list of guests, as their presence at Ocean Club wasn't registered with the management. Father and daughter have been in Portugal, recently, to help Policia Judiciaria in the reconstruction of what happened the night of May 3 and to give a formal statement to Police, according to a source close to the case.

Speaking to SOS Madeleine, the Irish teenager confirmed she saw Gerry McCann and Jeremy Wilkins talking, for a few minutes, near the McCann apartment: “There was only the father of the little girl talking to another man.”

The teenager went out for a cigarette, around the same time Jane Tanner said she saw a man carrying a child. She only mentioned what she saw to her family latter, because she had also to confess the reason why she was there. Since the beginning, Police had some doubts about Jane Tanner statement, as Jeremy Wilkins, a tennis partner of Madeleine's father, told them he only saw Gerry McCann near the apartment.

Jane Tanner description of the man she allegedly saw was used to draw a sketch that the McCann released, yesterday, October 25. But Jane Tanner was initially quoted, in the British Media, as saying that the man was walking to the church. Later, British newspapers referred she said the man was walking in the opposite direction, to Robert Murat's house.

Jeremy Wilkins told the Press he was walking his eight-month son when he met Gerry McCann, who was checking his children. The TV producer said he didn't saw a man carrying a child and he also didn't saw Jane Tanner: "It was a very narrow path and I think it would have been almost impossible for anyone to walk by without me noticing.”



I believe this is a major, pre-planned operation and for that reason doubt they wouldn't be so amateur as to actually have MM being visibley transported - alive or dead - on the night.

[sir nob jerkoff]

Jane Tanner incongruences (http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2007/12/jane-tanner-incongruences.html)

[pri01]

I don't know if this is connected. Relating the disappearance of Maddie to the month and day she left. 3rd May. In addition, the strange story towards end of last year about the missing man in a canoe who had been living in Panama. Today I heared something on discovery channel about distress signals. May day, may day, may day is the highest alert for distress. Pan, pan, pan is a step below. Heared this on air crash investigation.

[emerald]

Just a few days back I saw in a newspaper here that a sketch of the man purportedly kidnapped Maddie was made. That man looked like George Harrison. Just my thought...:eek:

[phillipchrist]

Just a few days back I saw in a newspaper here that a sketch of the man purportedly kidnapped Maddie was made. That man looked like George Harrison. Just my thought...:eek:

http://www.jimcromwell.com/landfill/beatles-revolver%20copy.jpg

Yes, I concur :D

[sir nob jerkoff]

ha ha! Excellent. :o

[cew91]

So let me get this straight Madelin had an aunt called mangdella and she was involved in a crime syndicate while her father sold ice cream to old people but Madelin's mum used to have a tumor which she cured by eating rattle snake puddinG??? while her father was sleeping on old mattresses dumped in the forest, and all this was going on while Madeline was living in the jungle with her uncle Tanzerian and her sister bindi Irwin????

... *swish

[sir nob jerkoff]

So let me get this straight Madelin had an aunt called mangdella and she was involved in a crime syndicate while her father sold ice cream to old people but Madelin's mum used to have a tumor which she cured by eating rattle snake puddinG??? while her father was sleeping on old mattresses dumped in the forest, and all this was going on while Madeline was living in the jungle with her uncle Tanzerian and her sister bindi Irwin????

... *swish

Close...but no cigar. It's not 'swish' - it's 'SWOOSH - CLICK!'...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rQazjM-bCo

[indigo]

You missed this......................

How do any of us know that this is a genuine abduction? We know about the story via state controlled media. This could all be an elaborate hoax.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1602&d=1200865329

Strange thing i learned today. Jeremy Wilkins one of the key witnesses, was involved in a chanel 4 documentary 'the worlds greatest hoaxes' He and his wife also produced BBCs crimewatch.

[indigo]

The mirror forum section 'the hunt for maddy' closed on wednesday. :( Sorry if that has been said. Was a good section with lots of good info from members who had done lots of research, especially the hoax theories. Perhaps certain members were getting a bit too close to the truth, what with linking together the mccanns friends in high places.

[pri01]

The latest story reveals sightings of Maddie in Chile.

http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/sunday/2008/01/27/madeleine-mccann-sighting-in-chile-98487-20299576/

Notice the numbers in this story.

I'm starting to think that the revealing of these locations is some sort of code or alert system. It's getting more bazaar.

I put the towns name into wiki and the town itself does not have much written about it. The picture of the tower though is odd.

[monkeyburps]

ok so i don't want to sound like an evil heartless person but i'm going to be honest
this is one girl
out of what, billions of people
she's been missing for months

i know it's a terrible thing, but just think how many more abductions will of taken place since then, why don't they get so much press coverage?


-monkeyburps :)

[morphix]

why don't they get so much press coverage?[/COLOR]


-monkeyburps :)

I think thats the point, she's / her parents are getting this coverage for a reason (hopefully its to find her - but i doubt it very much).

[monkeyburps]

I think thats the point, she's / her parents are getting this coverage for a reason (hopefully its to find her - but i doubt it very much).

oh ok :)

thanks morphix
much appreciated, this was a genuine question in my mind but it seems i was on the same level as you guys all along :/ oh well :)



-monkeyburps :)

[adzboarder]

Saw on some newspaper today McCann's to get £1m to appear on Oprah. Hmmm, making some big bucks exploiting their child aren't they?

There some more stuff on the Daily Record:

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/2008/01/26/mccann-s-centre-of-interview-war-86908-20298325/

In fact theres 20 or so articles on it:

http://news.google.co.uk/news?ned=uk&hl=en&ned=uk&ie=UTF-8&ncl=1126931946

[morphix]

Another link about it.

In the entertainment section of the BBC news site not sure whats worse the media calling it entertainment or the parents / guardians of Maddie even discussing this type of thing with TV shows / producers :mad:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7210340.stm

[morphix]

Saw on some newspaper today McCann's to get £1m to appear on Oprah. Hmmm, making some big bucks exploiting their child aren't they?

There some more stuff on the Daily Record:

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/2008/01/26/mccann-s-centre-of-interview-war-86908-20298325/


Never knew they were both 39 :eek:

[kweli]

The mirror forum section 'the hunt for maddy' closed on wednesday. :( Sorry if that has been said. Was a good section with lots of good info from members who had done lots of research, especially the hoax theories. Perhaps certain members were getting a bit too close to the truth, what with linking together the mccanns friends in high places.

Hi Indigo, what reason did they give for closing it? I haven't checked the mirror forums for a while. :confused:

[monkeyburps]

Never knew they were both 39 :eek:
multiples of 13 anybody?
no?

i think so :)



-monkeyburps :)

[pri01]

There was an odd news bullitin on local Liverpool radio station radiocity a couple of days ago.

I've not commented on it to date as a cannot find evidence to show you.

However, I'll briefly share.

An editor was giving an after dinner speach and mentioned the Madeline case in terms of comparisons with others.

However, the comparisons where;

1. Shergar ( the thoroughbred horse that was kidnapped for ransom by the IRA). Never acted upon so presumed dead.

2. Lord Lucan ( the aristocrat that presumably faked his own death and has since been missing).

3. Princess Diana ( either sacrificed or executed).

The thing is, even if we were to establish any sort of connection between these events, we have only the state controlled media accounts to base our judgements on.

1618

The headline above is an example. Could the speaker by mentioning the above examples and comparing them with missing madeline be exposing a lie?

[anthonyalcoholic]

if you have studied the parents from day one, you can see anger in the dads eyes - but the sort of anger that he knows something but cant reveal/tell the truth.
the mother looks sad/hollow like she has done something she is disgusted/eaten her soul

when have you seen them cry break down? this is not the behavior of parents in this situation

they have took part or know the real truth!

[indigo]

Hi Indigo, what reason did they give for closing it? I haven't checked the mirror forums for a while. :confused:
The said it was due to forum members abusing each other but most people know it came from higher up. The mccanns seem to have a nasty cult of people who are very manipulating and disruptive on mainstream boards.

[pri01]

I don't know if any of you in the UK are watching GMTV this morning. If you are, you will have seen Clarence Mitchel, the McCanns spokesman giving an interview and in the background was image of BigBen at exactly 6.35am.

1633

[phildee3]

The MP for Bridgend is:
Madeline Moon!

[ssyx]

Maybe this is posted already, and maybe it's a little late but I just thought I'd throw it in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEAySu-hTJo

Happy times indeed :confused:

[pri01]

Maybe this is posted already, and maybe it's a little late but I just thought I'd throw it in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEAySu-hTJo

Happy times indeed :confused:

Thanks for posting this ssyx, I have not seen it before. I find searching the eyes of Gerry McCann difficult to do. There is something unpleasant about him that I can't explain.

[ssyx]

Today I get on the tube on my way home and the Metro free paper is running this article(excerpt)...

PUTTING A STAMP ON MADDIE

A retired art teacher has created a picture of missing four year old Madeleine Mccann using postage stamps. The 1m-high (3ft) collage took Peter Mason, 64, three weeks to make with more than 3,000 stamps...

It goes on to say some other crap about exhibit-sale to charity-public eye etc etc

I just thought that sentence with 3 number 3's and the artist being called peter MASON was well weird. I even exclaimed "fucking hell" out loud... Lucky it was 530 am really :)

It looked like the stamps are mostly your standard Queens head ones too.

[ssyx]

Here is a pic. Its 3ft x 3ft apparently.

[illuminotti]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6iEjpVvyPw&eurl=http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=269824

thought this one was more fitting........

[kingdavid]

yes definatly the bush family probley had something to do with it:)
they love a good sacrafice

[magicmerlin]

I may be reading into things too much but the mosaic patterns create a reptilian scaly effect?

By the way.....where has all the maddie media focus gone hmmm.

[pri01]

I may be reading into things too much but the mosaic patterns create a reptilian scaly effect?

By the way.....where has all the maddie media focus gone hmmm.

Don't worry magicmerlin, it is still in paper media. I search the newspapers everyday for Maddie story. I also think that the day her story or something related to it isn't covered is the day to worry.

[phildee3]

yes definatly the bush family probley had something to do with it:)
they love a good sacrafice



This wasn't just a sacrafice.
It was the biggie.
Big enough to invite the queen.
It was the event to ritually mark the end of independence.

[ssyx]

I may be reading into things too much but the mosaic patterns create a reptilian scaly effect?

By the way.....where has all the maddie media focus gone hmmm.

There was a mention on the news last night although I wasn't paying enough attention to see anything other than it was Maddie related.

[kittan22]

:rolleyesThanks for posting this ssyx, I have not seen it before. I find searching the eyes of Gerry McCann difficult to do. There is something unpleasant about him that I can't explain.



i have been thinking that for awile gerry mccann unpleasant, to me he is too cool though my eye, and why would any1 were ever u are in the world leave ur kids on there own at such a young age isnt that a crime??????????

kit

[deliciously_fresh]

Maybe this is posted already, and maybe it's a little late but I just thought I'd throw it in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEAySu-hTJo

Happy times indeed :confused:

The McCann's give me weird vibes.

[kanut]

There you go, yet another pair of half brain's hooked on Morphine having a laugh just like the Nazi SS hooked on Morphine while killing off all the Jew's, ie; Bright Kid's, that have more intelligence than any half brained Nazi Industrialist on this planet! What goes around, come's around!

[illuminotti]

http://cuttingthroughtherubbish.blogspot.com/

A couple of interesting articles, government injecting millions of pounds of cash in to the hospital gerry worked at, bit more background info on a few of the main players!!
i think she could may well be alive, the disappearance was engineered to force some one into something,imo.....

[vera susa]

Well, MADDY, BINDI and PUMPKIN...
hard to ignore the common NWO messages
that these little girls are USED to deliver;

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=286244&postcount=2085

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=286259&postcount=2087

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=286282&postcount=2090

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=286342&postcount=2092



Police close in on 'Pumpkin' dad
http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/09/19/pumpkincar.jpg
By Peter Hellard in Los Angeles

February 22, 2008 11:47am
Article from: Herald Sun

US authorities are closing in on fugitive father Nai Yin Xue
after the accused murderer was spotted in Texas
over the past ten days.

US Marshals officials said they believed Xue,
who allegedly murdered his wife in New Zealand in September
before dumping his three-year-old daughter Qian Xun Xue
at a Melbourne train station (SOUTHERN CROSS Station!)
had been hiding out in three southern states in America's Gulf Coast region since October.

Chief Inspector Tom Hession, who is heading the manhunt for the former
tai chi master, said he was confident Xue, 53, would soon be in custody.

"He was spotted in Houston within the last ten days," he told the Herald Sun online.

"This is the most promising lead we have had in the last few months.

"We are confident that we are a lot closer to him than we have ever been before."

Investigators said they believed Xue, who has reportedly not changed
his appearance, had also spent time in the Gulf Coast cities of Biloxi in Mississippi and Mobile in Alabama over the past five months.

Xue is believed to be driving a
1996 blue Ford Thunderbird
with Texas number plates.

Inspector Hession said a team of investigators from the Marshals service's
Los Angeles unit, which has co-ordinated the nation-wide manhunt,
had flown to the region last week to join local authorities in the
high-priority case.

"We have information that he is in the Gulf Coast area between
Houston and Mobile," he said.

"We have investigators on the ground, working with our local office
and other law enforcement counterparts."

Inspector Hession said while they did not have information that
Xue was armed, investigators viewed him as extremely dangerous.

"We consider him dangerous because of the nature of his crime," he said.

Marianne Matus,
spokeswoman for the federal agency's Houston office,
said there was no evidence that Xue had family
or close associates in the Houston area.

"We just think he was here hiding out,"
Matus said yesterday.

"He could still be here now."

Investigators said they could not comment on how they came to learn
of Xue's whereabouts but a US law enforcement official told News Limited
that the information had come from a member of the public who recognised Xue after he was featured on television in an episode of
America's Most Wanted.

Xue is wanted by New Zealand police
for the death of his wife Anan Liu, 27.

Her body was discovered September 19
inside the boot of a car,
which was registered to Xue
and parked outside the couple's Auckland home.

Xue abandoned their daughter at
Melbourne's Southern Cross station
before fleeing for Los Angeles on September 15.

The child has since been returned to other relatives.

After flying into LAX, Xue spent a night at a cheap motel
in the city's Chinatown district in downtown before disappearing.

He has managed to evade detection
for more than five months.

Earlier this month investigators were reporting that they had
no information suggesting Xue had left the greater Los Angeles area.

[vera susa]

The Pumpkin case:
Fugitive father
http://media.apn.co.nz/webcontent/image/jpg/naiyin230.jpg
claims to be gift from gods

5:00AM Wednesday September 19, 2007
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/2/story.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10464572

http://www.worth1000.com/entries/192500/192692bgJF_w.gif
Pumpkin Bomb by darkzero


October 29th, 2007
Spider-Man 3
Pumpkin Bomb Replica
http://www.ohgizmo.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/pumpkin_bomb.jpg

http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hayashi/love/pumpkin.jpg
[B][SIZE="5"]Pumpkin Bomb
is the same with the Plutonium Atomic Bomb
in size and weight.


http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=286372&postcount=2094

[magicmerlin]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/maddie/article855530.ece

what's all this about - suddenly this taxi driver goes public.....


mentions Murat (the man with ONE EYE)
his son also has the maddie EYE defect
She was just staring ahead with big OWLISH EYE (link to molec aka EYE of Horus?)

[astra]

who thinks madeline is still alive,or what will be the conclusion of all this.

[vera susa]

who thinks madeline is still alive,or what will be the conclusion of all this.


Well, with more people all over the world "LOOKING" for this kid,
than anyone else, and NOT ONE ACTUAL SIGHTING...it don't "LOOK"
good.

YET...in only 5 months, a man who's LIFE DEPENDS
on STAYING HIDDEN is FOUND.

BUT...NOT JUST ANY MAN...
THE MAN WHO DUMPED/DESERTED
HIS LITTLE GIRL
SAFELY in AUSTRALIA


Pumpkin's
fugitive father
'captured'

By staff writers

February 29, 2008 07:45am
Article from: NEWS.com.au

A FUGITIVE accused of murdering his wife
and abandoning his toddler
at a Melbourne railway station
has been captured in the US.

According to media reports,
Nai Yin Xue from Auckland, New Zealand,
was captured by police in Atlanta, Georgia.


O.K. now, remember;
"THE AUTHORITIES" INSISTED
we call this little CHINESE girl,
PUMPKIN,
even AFTER HER NAME & PICTURE
and ALL HER FAMILIES were
ALL OVER THE MSM...
and she remains
PUMPKIN to this day....

her father MURDERED his WIFE,
LEFT HER BODY in the boot of HIS CAR,
parked in front
of HIS HOME,
IN NEW ZEALAND
(POLICE & MEDIA
ALL OVER IT
FOR DAYS
BEFORE ANYONE LOOKED
in the boot??!)
THEN...

TOOK THEIR TODDLER DAUGHTER
ALL THE WAY TO AUSTRALIA
and LEFT HER ALONE at
MELBOURNE'S BUSY
SOUTHERN CROSS Railway Station
(where
OZZIES JUMPED TO HER SAFE RESCUE),
THEN...
took a taxi to MELBOURNE Airport
and FLEW TO AMERICA...
where HE IS NOW, NOT SAFE.

CHILD SACRIFICE going on EVERYWHERE
(yes even here in OZ),
but THIS STORY "TELLS" us where our
SAFEST OPTION IS...
THE REAL ZION, OZ, AUSTRALIA....
and NOW that he's caught, well,
EXPECT THINGS TO REALLY "HOT UP"!

[phildee3]

who thinks madeline is still alive,or what will be the conclusion of all this.



She is alive in the same way that the christos is alive in those who celebrate the Eucharist.

MM is the feminine aspect of the christos.

It is a feminist plot to exclude the masculine aspect.

Like all of their nasty little plots, it only works in the short term.

The outcome, eventually, will be that people will accept the outrageous truth of what happened. Jersey is a part of this revelation.

[titan]

who thinks madeline is still alive,or what will be the conclusion of all this.


I think she will be found alive.

Don't know what the conclusion will be except it will be like the second coming.

[mikidee]

in my opinion.. i think the whole maddie thing is a stunt.. like david icke says. problem reaction solution.. (1) problem.. maddie goes missing...(2) maddie is found dead and its not nice. the public reacts .(3) solution.. we the governments of the world will stop it happening again.. i.e. let us i.d. chip all your kids and we'll keep them nice n safe .. .. problem.. reaction .. solution.... hope im wrong. but i think i could be right.... think about that one..

[adzboarder]

Yep.

[phildee3]

in my opinion.. i think the whole maddie thing is a stunt.. like david icke says. problem reaction solution.. (1) problem.. maddie goes missing...(2) maddie is found dead and its not nice. the public reacts .(3) solution.. we the governments of the world will stop it happening again.. i.e. let us i.d. chip all your kids and we'll keep them nice n safe .. .. problem.. reaction .. solution.... hope im wrong. but i think i could be right.... think about that one..



Problem with this is that (2) has not happened.
If this thesis were true it would have been by now.
Therefore this is bollocks (in Ikean language).

[illuminotti]

in my opinion.. i think the whole maddie thing is a stunt.. like david icke says. problem reaction solution.. (1) problem.. maddie goes missing...(2) maddie is found dead and its not nice. the public reacts .(3) solution.. we the governments of the world will stop it happening again.. i.e. let us i.d. chip all your kids and we'll keep them nice n safe .. .. problem.. reaction .. solution.... hope im wrong. but i think i could be right.... think about that one..


we have thought about that one, did u you read the thread?
there's a poll at the beginning that says "is this all for the chip?"

[mikidee]

we have thought about that one, did u you read the thread?
there's a poll at the beginning that says "is this all for the chip?"

i didnt see the thread.. sorry.. well at least now im not alone in my thinking.. didnt want to think that. but to me it seems the obvious scenario.. take bowling for columbine.. problem . reaction... solution.. get some brainwashed teens to go postal in some school. .. then get some c.i.a. documentary maker from michigan to make a documentary saying guns are bad.. if america gives up the right to bare arms. then they've nothing to repel the facists with.. europe is a fascist state now because we dont have our own guns.. look at the money.(euros). has a fasci symbol on all the money.. if america gives up there guns its one more step to a new world order.. . anyway.. hope im wrong about maddie.. but dont think i am.. aslo.... i bet something major happens in china this year... something that will make 911 look like a barbeque.... watch this space.... ... mikidee... :eek:

[mikidee]

Problem with this is that (2) has not happened.
If this thesis were true it would have been by now.
Therefore this is bollocks (in Ikean language).

and what makes u think that 2 wont happen .. just because it hasnt happened yet... wake up .. the new world order agenda wasnt dreamt up 2 weeks ago.. its been long and coming.. just because 2 hasnt happened in a time frame consistent with your sheeple mentality. no offence.. doenst mean its not going to happen.. and believe me i dont want to see it happen... ive got 5 kids myself.. but remember this.. over 5000 kids go missing in europe annually.. not that kids are not special they all are.. but why the huge media campaign about this child.. what about all the others.. do they in turn not deserve to have every t.v. channell . every newspaper.. every radio broadcast consentrate on them.. the elite of this world dont give a toss about our children. or u.. what they care about is there agenda and whats gone on with maddie and that campaign is blatently obvious propaganda designed to make people worry about there kids safety.. and if two does materialise then that will provoke a widespread reaction from every person with kids. and of course the governments who realy have your best interests at heart will give u the solution.. . tag your kids for their own safety.. and we'll look after them for u.. and most will fall for it hook line and sinker.. . me ill look after my own kids.. like i always have... my way.. still not convinced.. i suggest u hire a film called wag the dog.. ye mite just learn a thing or two... now ill go out on a limb and say it out straight .. the whole maddie thing is a giant hoax. just like 911 and all hoaxes before it... u seem to forget. that time means nothing to these illuminati scumbags who run your world for u.. so open your mind and stop thinking like a sheep.. .. just because u see it on cnn or sky news doesnt make it so. now go and get wag the dog.. .. if ye still dont get it.. at least ye will get to see hoffman and de niro at there finest.. .. baaaaa..... lol.. mikidee.. . with a K. :):):):):):):):)

[pri01]

and what makes u think that 2 wont happen .. just because it hasnt happened yet... wake up .. the new world order agenda wasnt dreamt up 2 weeks ago.. its been long and coming.. just because 2 hasnt happened in a time frame consistent with your sheeple mentality. no offence.. doenst mean its not going to happen.. and believe me i dont want to see it happen... ive got 5 kids myself.. but remember this.. over 5000 kids go missing in europe annually.. not that kids are not special they all are.. but why the huge media campaign about this child.. what about all the others.. do they in turn not deserve to have every t.v. channell . every newspaper.. every radio broadcast consentrate on them.. the elite of this world dont give a toss about our children. or u.. what they care about is there agenda and whats gone on with maddie and that campaign is blatently obvious propaganda designed to make people worry about there kids safety.. and if two does materialise then that will provoke a widespread reaction from every person with kids. and of course the governments who realy have your best interests at heart will give u the solution.. . tag your kids for their own safety.. and we'll look after them for u.. and most will fall for it hook line and sinker.. . me ill look after my own kids.. like i always have... my way.. still not convinced.. i suggest u hire a film called wag the dog.. ye mite just learn a thing or two... now ill go out on a limb and say it out straight .. the whole maddie thing is a giant hoax. just like 911 and all hoaxes before it... u seem to forget. that time means nothing to these illuminati scumbags who run your world for u.. so open your mind and stop thinking like a sheep.. .. just because u see it on cnn or sky news doesnt make it so. now go and get wag the dog.. .. if ye still dont get it.. at least ye will get to see hoffman and de niro at there finest.. .. baaaaa..... lol.. mikidee.. . with a K. :):):):):):):):)


I very much lend to the hoax theory but, there is so much toxic input imo.

[orgone]

and what makes u think that 2 wont happen .. just because it hasnt happened yet... wake up .. the new world order agenda wasnt dreamt up 2 weeks ago.. its been long and coming.. just because 2 hasnt happened in a time frame consistent with your sheeple mentality. no offence.. doenst mean its not going to happen.. and believe me i dont want to see it happen... ive got 5 kids myself.. but remember this.. over 5000 kids go missing in europe annually.. not that kids are not special they all are.. but why the huge media campaign about this child.. what about all the others.. do they in turn not deserve to have every t.v. channell . every newspaper.. every radio broadcast consentrate on them.. the elite of this world dont give a toss about our children. or u.. what they care about is there agenda and whats gone on with maddie and that campaign is blatently obvious propaganda designed to make people worry about there kids safety.. and if two does materialise then that will provoke a widespread reaction from every person with kids. and of course the governments who realy have your best interests at heart will give u the solution.. . tag your kids for their own safety.. and we'll look after them for u.. and most will fall for it hook line and sinker.. . me ill look after my own kids.. like i always have... my way.. still not convinced.. i suggest u hire a film called wag the dog.. ye mite just learn a thing or two... now ill go out on a limb and say it out straight .. the whole maddie thing is a giant hoax. just like 911 and all hoaxes before it... u seem to forget. that time means nothing to these illuminati scumbags who run your world for u.. so open your mind and stop thinking like a sheep.. .. just because u see it on cnn or sky news doesnt make it so. now go and get wag the dog.. .. if ye still dont get it.. at least ye will get to see hoffman and de niro at there finest.. .. baaaaa..... lol.. mikidee.. . with a K. :):):):):):):):)

probs mikidee, is that in order for that thesis to be true in an effective manner, (2) would have had to happen within the emotive timeframe of the general public, which as you highlight is very short indeed.

in order to create panic or a public outcry..leading to 'the chip'... she would have had to turn up dead within a few weeks, i think. also perhaps what phil was getting at. (maybe?)

if he, as a 'sheeple', as you call him, has a limited time viewpoint, then the general public really do... so have maddie turn up dead a year or more later has a reduced impact... and why go to all that trouble for a reduced impact?

Still, no less likely then a feminist plot, I'll hand it to you.

[phildee3]

probs mikidee, is that in order for that thesis to be true in an effective manner, (2) would have had to happen within the emotive timeframe of the general public, which as you highlight is very short indeed.

in order to create panic or a public outcry..leading to 'the chip'... she would have had to turn up dead within a few weeks, i think. also perhaps what phil was getting at. (maybe?)

if he, as a 'sheeple', as you call him, has a limited time viewpoint, then the general public really do... so have maddie turn up dead a year or more later has a reduced impact... and why go to all that trouble for a reduced impact?



Correct.
Thank you , orgone.

[mikidee]

Correct.
Thank you , orgone.

why are u so obsessed with time... if part two of my theory happened what difference would it make to the impact it would have on the mind.. if it happened today or a years time it would still be a terrible thing.. so i dont see what difference it would make time wise... i'd be as horrified today as i would be in a years time regardless of what u may say.. so i would still disagree.. i can understand why u would want all events to happen in a short space of time to heighten the impact but in this case time doesnt come into it with me.... mikidee....

[vera susa]

Right! NOW I AM PISSED OFF!!!!

"Maddie" (whatever was DONE TO HER),
is not a CHILD,
but a GLOBAL BRAND...
For, CHILD SACRIFICE for PROFIT!



Maddie http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,5941188,00.jpg
Sydney alert after 'sighting'

By Saffron Howden

March 17, 2008 02:59pm
Article from: The Daily Telegraph


* Girl resembling Madeleine McCann seen in Sydney
* Rail staff shadowed man with girl until police arrived
* Police announced sighting was a false alarm

SYDNEY police were sent into a flutter today
when a member of the public called in
thinking they'd spotted missing British girl
Madeleine McCann in the CBD.

Rail staff appeared to shadow a middle-aged man
wearing a black beret and a little, blonde girl
until police arrived at Town Hall train station
to question the pair.

The Daily Telegraph spotted three police officers
talking to the man and the girl at the
Luneburger German Bakery
underneath the Queen Victoria Building
in the heart of the city.

But police say the report


"There was a possible sighting," a police spokeswoman said.

"It's been checked.
The police obviously took it seriously enough to check."

A world-wide,
nine month
search for the missing
four-year-old
was launched last year after she went missing
in May
while on a family holiday in
Praia da Luz, Portugal.

There have been numerous,
false sightings since she disappeared.

[pri01]

Right! NOW I AM PISSED OFF!!!!

"Maddie" (whatever was DONE TO HER),
is not a CHILD,
but a GLOBAL BRAND...
For, CHILD SACRIFICE for PROFIT!



Maddie http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,5941188,00.jpg
Sydney alert after 'sighting'

By Saffron Howden

March 17, 2008 02:59pm
Article from: The Daily Telegraph


* Girl resembling Madeleine McCann seen in Sydney
* Rail staff shadowed man with girl until police arrived
* Police announced sighting was a false alarm

SYDNEY police were sent into a flutter today
when a member of the public called in
thinking they'd spotted missing British girl
Madeleine McCann in the CBD.

Rail staff appeared to shadow a middle-aged man
wearing a black beret and a little, blonde girl
until police arrived at Town Hall train station
to question the pair.

The Daily Telegraph spotted three police officers
talking to the man and the girl at the
Luneburger German Bakery
underneath the Queen Victoria Building
in the heart of the city.

But police say the report


"There was a possible sighting," a police spokeswoman said.

"It's been checked.
The police obviously took it seriously enough to check."

A world-wide,
nine month
search for the missing
four-year-old
was launched last year after she went missing
in May
while on a family holiday in
Praia da Luz, Portugal.

There have been numerous,
false sightings since she disappeared.


1694

[xxdinoxkarenxx]

Hi everyone,

I do not know if this has been posted before, but do people think poor Madeline may have been sacraficed? Look at the facts; the whole story has a very sinister and strange feel to it, in the UK and I believe all over the world the MEDIA HAS GONE MAD for this. Her parents also has a very strange air to them. The little girl is fair with blue eyes. Why the huge media push! Are some sick people feeding off human emotion again?

that makes sense

[titan]

What they are doing is setting up a fake miracle. Look at where she has been seen. Marian/Fatima shrine stuff.

I don't think it was part of the plant ot kill her, but i could be wrong.

There are strong,strong suggestions that this is a high-end affair.

[cleopatraxxx]

after two months of her gone missing and all the changes and even accusations of her parents, etc, i knew and have no doubt this is only to make everyone sucumb (give into) to the fear-mongering and accept the microchip. many parents simply say "it is a safer place if kids are microchiped" RUBBISH! but that is why the media have been stretching so much on the case. they are told to. that is why SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE, has APPARENTLY "SEEN" the little one.

there is never proof, she is never found and it keeps it easier to keep the story ongoing.

Unfortunately, i believe she has been killed, like many kids are for organ extraction for some politicians, maybe after being raped and who knows what else. MAD? SCARY? why? this planet is full of rubbish! i will not be surprised if some politician or famous entity will be later involved and accused in connection with this kidnapping/murder, for the only fact that when they aren't needed anymore, they become connected, accused and jailed.

i am the one how least reads any of this and when it turns up on the radio, i simply change the channel. never forget that when something is for too long on the news, is because there is a hidden agenda there. you either give into and fear for your kids or simply disconnect and live your life without stress.

i am very sorry for the girls parents. i dont believe they are anyhow involved. they are being used. their girl was used too... .

as to justice? will it ever be done in this dark place? justice is always connected to money and power, so i dont believe in any system and justice. it is all for the money and those who have money escape always... .

[truthsayer]

I can't help feel she is victim to the Monarch programming.

[phildee3]

I can't help feel she is victim to the Monarch programming.



mmmmm. This sounds like a reasonable possibility, looking at her parents.
But it doesn't explain her long absense without a clue.
That fits better with elitist theophagy, imo.

Could both be at work here?


(btw, it's dis-united kingdom).

[shea]

can someone tell me what whoever the supposed people took her. What they get out of a sacrafice? Who are these people? iLLUMANITI? I heard princess diana was sacraficed.

[phildee3]

can someone tell me what whoever the supposed people took her. What they get out of a sacrafice? Who are these people? iLLUMANITI? I heard princess diana was sacraficed.



Diana was bred to embody the spirit of the goddess, Diana, to be "sacraficed".
Madeline was bred to embody the spirit of Maria Magdalene - to be "sacraficed" also.
The purpose is to bring the powers of these great beings under illuminati control.

[adzboarder]

can someone tell me what whoever the supposed people took her. What they get out of a sacrafice? Who are these people? iLLUMANITI? I heard princess diana was sacraficed.

Ha so true Shea. Check out chapter 19 of the biggest secret - The Goddess and the King. Mental stuff.

[marianna333]

I have not read all of the posts, but, can anyone tell me the purpose of child rapes &/or murders? Is it simply the energy of fear that is being used or someting else? If something else, what is it? Thanks.
M.

[shea]

To be honest i Dont have a fucking clue lol Didnt understand that dianna thing at all.....sorry

[octopusrex]

Virgin Sacrifice.

How old.

[vera susa]

I have not read all of the posts, but, can anyone tell me the purpose of child rapes &/or murders? Is it simply the energy of fear that is being used or someting else? If something else, what is it? Thanks.
M.
"THEY" SELL the ideas of MURDER being "Sacrificial" "MAGIC",
and all that BS, when it has ONLY EVER BEEN to TERRORISE
and BLACKMAIL 'power' out of those who FALL FOR IT.

EVER NOTICE HOW MANY SELF CONFESSED ANTI-CHRISTS
BITCH THAT CHRISTIAN FAITH IS NONSENSICAL MYTH, YET
THEN TRY AND SELL "MAGIC" AS IF REAL!

SO BLOODY EASY TO SEE THROUGH THOSE DEATH WORSHIPPERS,
IF, YOU CARE TO.

[majicdragon]

If anyone can tell me with absolute certainty that madeline was taken and sacrificed, that person had better start explaining just exactly how the fuck they know, and why the fuck they haven't gone to the authorities.

If you didn't do it, and you didn't see it being done, why would you talk about it as if it is fact?

[majicdragon]

To me, Christianity has always been about persecution. Jesus persecuting everyone who is not perfect and letting them stay persecuted. Thus judged forever.

No second chance for you!

It's hypocrisy. You do not condemn, and at the same time forgive your brother.


If anyone wants to get into it, I'm right here.

[majicdragon]

Jesus fits the description of the antichrist to a tee.

He would fool everyone, and inasmuch as it were possible, he would also fool the elect... the ones who have been chosen to see.

[majicdragon]

For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son (lucifer) that whosoever believeth in him (God) should not perish, but have ever lasting life.

John 3:16

[phildee3]

If anyone can tell me with absolute certainty that madeline was taken and sacrificed, that person had better start explaining just exactly how the fuck they know, and why the fuck they haven't gone to the authorities.



Because the highest authorities are responsible,
and they have made that clearly obvious.

[shea]

Anyone up for any maddie jokes?

[illuminotti]

shea, i been dying post maddie and shannon jokes.........
i do think some are rather cruel tho, i haven't dared post any!

[exicutioner151]

Anyone up for any maddie jokes?
Hi Shea ,
The truth has never set anyone free ! only doubt has . thats the reasoning behind the phrase beyond all reasonable doubt ! :p
Exicutioner151

[exicutioner151]

Hi all,

This is my first post, so apologies in advance if I make a mistake...

Has anyone else noticed that this year's Big Brother logo has the exact same 'defect' as Madeleine's eye? The Big Brother eye is the other eye, and the pupil and line at '7 O'clock' are white, but is otherwise the same:


http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/media/pf/bb-eye-hdr.jpg

Thoughts anyone...?

Best,

JR
Hi Seawed,
i see this eye thing everywhere too another example in america is http://www.mobilityinfo.com/?OVRAW=pride%20mobility%20products%20corp&OVKEY=pride%20mobility%20product%20corp&OVMTC=standard&OVADID=21438216022&OVKWID=114844909022 which was on tv 3 30 08
Exicutioner151

[exicutioner151]

Because the highest authorities are responsible,
and they have made that clearly obvious.

Hi Phildee ,
When alls said and done id not be surprized if top gov officials not only know where she is at (either alive or dead) but the people commisioned to take her and the routes they took and were probably helped to do so . As i understand a number of police have been arrested for impeding an investigation which can be only for one thing ! personal knowledge either keeping maddy's location secure and secret till they are done with her and her reintegration back into secioty or .... her body is degraded in a way as thier will be no trace evidence nor dna on or in her that could possibly be used . hopefully she is alive and well and not being abused in any way . thier is a new trend of people abducting for the purpose of having a child they otherwise cannot have . either way its a bad situation and if MI 5 and MI6 have these satalites IE" spy in the sky " mabey they should stop sitting on thier thumbs remove them from thier arses and stop eaves dropping on chitter chatter like phone sex lines and start looking for her !!!!!!!!!
Exicutioner151

[obladen]

Shocked and appauled at the Poll to this topic!

YES....this is a plan for the chip
NO....the chip plan is a myth

Why does this have to be a plan? Isn't it enough that a young girl has ben kidnapped, probably murdered in the most horriffic of ways, yet this has to be part of a plan for an agenda!? I knew there was a reason why I was visiting this site less and less.

The above forum question is loaded and not a fair poll. If your name is David Mugabe raise ur hand.

I think the point of the poll is this:

Why the fuss over this one? Children go missing/get murdered all the time.
Yes it's sad.....but WHY the media attention on this one?

People have a right to question what's put in front of them..

If it is an agenda, then it has worked it's magic on you..... the very mention of a young, angelic little girl and you suddenly believe everything they're telling you?
When it comes to the media, they're guilty of lies/propaganda until proven innocent

[jp13]

There you go, yet another pair of half brain's hooked on Morphine having a laugh just like the Nazi SS hooked on Morphine while killing off all the Jew's, ie; Bright Kid's, that have more intelligence than any half brained Nazi Industrialist on this planet! What goes around, come's around!
I don't think the oficial Nazi's had morphine in WW2, that's why they had to invent Methadone as Great Britain had all the rights and routes to opium production which makes morphine, then Heroin

[kweli]

I've already posted this elsewhere on the forum, so sorry for double posting but, I think it's highly relevant to this thread too.

Cotton Wool Kids
Cutting Edge C4 Thursday 10 April 2008 9pm - sorry UK only

'Childhood is changing. Anxious parents fear that modern Britain has never been a more dangerous place for children. They believe the greatest danger lurks outside the home. But as some families go to increasingly extreme lengths to keep their children safe, this Cutting Edge documentary explores the effect it is having on modern childhood.

Sam is a self confessed worrier. Her two children, 3-year-old Lilly-May and 10-year-Harry are the centre of her world and the focus of the most of her worrying. "I just go completely off a scale sometimes", she says, like the time she insisted on all the windows on the top floor of the house were closed in case someone snatched her children in the night. High profile missing child stories, like the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, help to fuel her anxiety.

When nine-year-old Abi, goes shopping at home in Essex with her mum Toni, she is told that people they pass in the street may be potential abductors. Abi travels with her mother to see some new microchip technology that could offer a way to track her every movement for safety's sake.'

Article in full: http://www.channel4.com/culture/microsites/C/cutting_edge/cotton_wool_kids/index.html

[carlperkins]

For 12.99 you can buy a book about the story. On the inside front cover is a logo of a Knights Templar. Just a coincidence though.

[featheredserpent]

all the sickness on this earth is evil the demons are all around us and they will do anything to get your soul,now is the time to rise and defeat them with love,this evil will stop,soon believe and it will be,let your love flow and this will be .featheredserpent

[diamond dogs]

For 12.99 you can buy a book about the story. On the inside front cover is a logo of a Knights Templar. Just a coincidence though.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51hO15rT7-L._SS500_.jpg

Very strange title and cover also...

[octopusrex]

How many of us might have seen her and not recognized her?

[kweli]

Very clever reporting? :rolleyes:

The McCanns have been all over the news again over the last couple of days, conveniently, at the same time as the Shannon Matthews case, with its frequent twists, and accusations of an elaborate scam carried out by her own family; her mother in police custody for questioning. The Matthews case directly followed the reports on the McCann case several times today on national TV; you couldn't fail to notice the overwhelming contrast presented, it made the McCanns look sympathetic compared to the 'low life family' of Shannon.

[phildee3]

How many of us might have seen her and not recognized her?

None.

[carlperkins]

Thanks diamond dogs, but the one I saw was called "Madeleine" and had a different cover. I suppose there will be dozens of books on the subject eventually, and then the film too....

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii252/carl-perkins/Maddy_30.jpg

Googled:
Madeleine: A Most Heartbreaking And Extraordinary Disappearance
Robert Downing

(1 customer rating)

£11.99 Free Delivery
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[mentalogirl]

This is all over the news today:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=558574&in_page_id=1770

It all seems so staged,like there's a timetable of events culminating on the anniversary of Madeleine's disappearance,and this is the first one of them.

[sir nob jerkoff]

This is all over the news today:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=558574&in_page_id=1770
From the article:
Pictured: Kate McCann finally smiles again as she calls for Europe-wide alerts on missing children

Kate McCann gave a rare smile as she headed to Brussels to call for a Europe-wide centre to help finding missing children.

They've got short memories (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEAySu-hTJo), haven't they? :confused: Maybe they mean since she was named an official suspect.

[pri01]

Everytime I try to access the Daily Mail web site windows always posts the error that explorer has encountered problems and needs to close and it prevents me from accessing the information that I want to show you. So if any of you can manage to look at the story about madeline if you can post the link I would be grateful to support this post.

Today in the Daily Mail UK, they gave an account of the events leading up to Madeleines disappearance according to both Kate and Gerry.

In the account reported, Gerry claims that when he was made aware of Maddies dissapearance, when he looked at her empty bed all he could see was cuddle cat, her stuffed toy on the bed.

I am sure that earlier accounts said that cuddle cat was on top of a shelf, supposedly put there by the kidnapper.

[phildee3]

In the account reported, Gerry claims that when he was made aware of Maddies dissapearance, when he looked at her empty bed all he could see was cuddle cat, her stuffed toy on the bed.

I am sure that earlier accounts said that cuddle cat was on top of a shelf, supposedly put there by the kidnapper.



That's right!
I read that too; well spotted.

It also struck me how Kate said that she screamed "someone's taken her" when running back to the bar.
Earlier reports state that she screamed "they've taken her."

[pri01]

That's right!
I read that too; well spotted.

It also struck me how Kate said that she screamed "someone's taken her" when running back to the bar.
Earlier reports state that she screamed "they've taken her."

Yes, there are a number of inconsistancies in the reporting of accounts and coupled with the supposed leaked interview to Spanish reporters I really don't know who is responsible or why.

Could these be deliberate errors?

What does strike me as odd is the comments by Gerry. He said that there is evidence to show that young children turn up after being missing for a long time. He said it is very uncommon for a young child to be kidnapped and killed. He also repeated a statement which I have heared many times. That there is "no evidence to suggest that Maddie has been harmed".

How can anyone make such a definitive statement on a missing person? How can he know? One can just as easilly say that there is no evidence to say she is safe.

[phildee3]

He also repeated a statement which I have heared many times. That there is "no evidence to suggest that Maddie has been harmed".

How can anyone make such a definitive statement on a missing person? How can he know? One can just as easilly say that there is no evidence to say she is safe.



He is justifying his trust in his masters to himself.

[cleopatraxxx]

How can anyone make such a definitive statement on a missing person? How can he know? One can just as easilly say that there is no evidence to say she is safe.

...or alive

[gribz]

One headline on the news today has really annoyed me.

"McCanns considering pulling out of assisting Portugese Police in a reconstruction of the night Maddie went missing"

Who on earth do they think they are that they can pick and choose what they do? If this assists in finding her then you'd think they would jump at the chance to do it.

The coverage they have got since Day 1 is different to any missing child case Ive came across. IMO they have guilt written all over there faces.

[jimmi]

I don't know what happened a year ago in Portugal, the only information I've had on the case has come from newspapers which I can't trust to tell me the truth, and tv. which I can't trust to tell me the truth. I have no reason whatsoever to think, nevermind say, anything bad about Kate or Gerry Mcann. If anyone reading or posting here has access to any greater knowledge concerning the abduction of a little girl then don't waste your time here do something more constructive;D Those of you saying the nasty stuff on here step back for a minute and think about that anger you're feeling and where it's coming from and be true to yourselves.
What if the worst possible thing was true, something like ... Kate and Gerry are mind controlled and Maddy was satanically sacrificed and all the churches are in on it and whatever else is speculated everybloodywhere! Ask yourself what would it take to make you do those things, feel the pity that you have inside of you as the compassionate being that you truly are that our brothers and sisters are being used to make us feel hatred for each other. Save your anger for when it's going to be needed . Sorry ,turned into a bit of a rant.

[dangermouse]

McCanns press for EU abducted child alert
watch listen Thursday, 10 April 2008 23:33

The parents of missing child Madeline McCann are in Brussels to press for the setting up of a Europe wide network to track down abducted children.

Kate and Gerry McCann will join MEPs in the European Parliament who are calling for a cross border alert system similar to one in the US.

Today's meeting is organised by a group of MEPs with an interest in child welfare issues. They want European governments to set up and fund a European missing child hotline, a European Child Resource and Policy Unit, and a rapid information system modelled on the US Amber Alert system.
Advertisement

Named after Amber Hagerman, a nine-year-old taken and killed by her abductor, Amber Alert operates like a severe weather warning, with messages flashed on radio, TV, and motorway signs.

It is credited with helping to find some 400 children abducted in the US since 2003, most of them in the first 72 hours.

In Europe, only France and Belgium have such a system.

Kate and Gerry McCann have met the Amber alert organisers in America, and travel to Brussels today to press for a similar system here, and for a European centre to bring police, governments and voluntary agencies together to work in a faster, less bureaucratic way, on solving child abduction cases.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0410/mccann.html


Can RFID Be Used With The Amber Alert System


I was just reading all about the Amber alert down in Lubbock Texas for Mychael Darthard-Dawodu and it got my mind thinking. First I am glad that the baby was found alive in New Mexico but is there any way that the abduction could have been prevented in the first place.

If you are not familiar with this particular Amber alert the baby was taken from the mother in a Texas hospital by someone posing as a nurse. The infant was kidnapped early Saturday from a woman who walked out of Covenant Lakeside Hospital with the 5 pound baby hidden in her purse.

This woman allegedly said she needed to take this days old baby to get some test done. Any mother in this situation would hand over their baby to someone that had hospital clothes on. It has been said that the woman actually came in the room a few times posing as a nurse. I am sure the mother felt comfortable that this was a hospital employee.

Sure a hospital is busy place and this lady was seen on a security camera exiting the building but what could be done to stop this from happening in the first place is what I am thinking about. I would never want to think about the feelings that poor mother had when they told her about what happened.

I believe that we could and should use some sort of RFID tag device, maybe a label in a wrist strap on each baby that would be hard to remove. They already tag the baby with it's name so they don't get all the babies mixed up. It would be easy to make that wristband RFID capable. That's another thing that could be tracked also using something like I am thinking about. Maybe a tag on the inside of the diaper where it would not be seen. I know the wetness part is a tricky issue but the label can be placed high enough on the waistband that it could avoid getting wet.

Each hospital could place a RFID reader at each elevator entrance and staircase on the maternity floor. When the tag goes through it a big read flashing light could go off and security could have stopped this from happening before the suspect was caught 100 miles away.

Once again I am sure the people that are against using RFID for anything will say that it violates the babies privacy rights but that is something that I bet every parent that reads about this story will just laugh at.

I am sure that there is already a RFID product on the market that would be able to handle this already. I just can't focus on one as I keep thinking about what those poor parents must have been going through at the time.

With the cost of Generation 2 tags on the decline and the important issue at hand many hospitals should look into some sort of RFID enabled device or something else to keep this from happening in the first place.
http://www.a1-rfid.com/amber-alert.htm



:eek::eek::eek::eek:

[killmicrosoft]

i know they are using theise in the uk my daugter had one on her ancle after she was checked out by the doctors when she was born and that was in 2004


http://www.childminderuk.com/healthcare.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/uk/nhs/content/articles/sidewinder-on-radio-frequency-identification-rfid.aspx

[free_soul]

I was watching the news when the pair anounced they want a euoropian wide system for missing children, all i thought was...
"thats what it was all for"

[element]

Why do we humans always need some sort of technology to change society in a positive way?
We don't need technology in our bodies.

This will not prevent violence and all of that, it's only leading towards more mass control.

We get air planes, very nice, but kill people in wars.
We get tv, very nice, but it changes people's behaviour with all the violence,gore and porn.


Change society and people in a positive way without technology please.

Give humanity better 'food', so it 'lives' better.

[lightgiver]

Bohemian Grove California,Belgium's and Frances border free masons lodge re:Prophecy Club.these elitists have lodges everywhere.some of these lodges don't do nice things.Remember the Belgium scandal lots of high ranking officials involved all gone quiet, Madeleine all gone quiet,thousands of children in the world missing all gone quiet.just look at our headlines in the media(celebrity,soaps,movie stars, footballers) when all this evil in the world is going on,thousands of people suffering,why a minority of elitists run everything with their dark satanic methods.as life become so cheap i am afraid so.brainwash,brainwash,brainwash. WORLD WAKE UP.:eek:

[lightgiver]

what as happened to love and compassion,it is being replaced with fear and hatred,but we all will not let them win.spread the message with wisdom, show people the facts.This is happening the New World Order is manifesting before us,its not a conspiracy theory this is reality as we know it.:eek:

[hawk]

It wouldn't surprise me. People are crazy all over the world. Most of the time, all you have to do is a little digging into their background and find anything that seems out of the ordinary. Go from there. I hate to say it but anyone who even thinks about trying to mess with children is sick and demented! People like that should be hung in public!

[adzboarder]

Watch out Hawk you are straying into problem > reaction > solution territory there. ;)

[mariag]

It wouldn't surprise me. People are crazy all over the world. Most of the time, all you have to do is a little digging into their background and find anything that seems out of the ordinary. Go from there. I hate to say it but anyone who even thinks about trying to mess with children is sick and demented! People like that should be hung in public!

Dear Hawk , people like that , needs help.They are obviously in a spiritual dis ease and need care and help and love.Lot´s of love. The more hurt and "evil" a person does the more love he or she needs to regain the balance and mend and be healed.
Father forgive them for they know not what they do

[vera susa]

Dear Hawk , people like that , needs help.They are obviously in a spiritual dis ease and need care and help and love.Lot´s of love. The more hurt and "evil" a person does the more love he or she needs to regain the balance and mend and be healed.
Father forgive them for they know not what they do

What complete and utter BULLSHIT!

"THEY" BLOODY WELL KNOW
what the BLOODY HELL "They" DO,
and APOLOGISTS for "Them"
ARE ENEMIES of JUST LIFE;
Pure & Simple!

IMCHO.

[vera susa]

hawk:
It wouldn't surprise me. People are crazy all over the world.
Most of the time, all you have to do is a little digging
into their background and find anything
that seems out of the ordinary.
Go from there.
I hate to say it but anyone who even thinks about
trying to mess with children is sick and demented!
People like that should be hung in public!

Watch out Hawk you are straying into problem > reaction > solution territory there. ;)

What complete and utter BULLSHIT!

'Problem' = THEY KNOW

'Reaction' = DISCREDIT Them.

'Solution' = DEFAME THOSE WHO
EXPLAIN the HOWS & WHYS.


"THEY" BLOODY WELL KNOW
what the BLOODY HELL "They" DO,
and APOLOGISTS for "Them"
ARE ENEMIES of JUST LIFE;
Pure & Simple!

IMCHO.

Hawk, stick by your guns,
those "lovey dovey" (ANTI-CHRIST)
'peace & forgiveness'
(WHEN THERE IS NO PEACE!),FREAKS,
DO far more EVILS than those
OVERT SATANISTS
could dream of getting away with.

And yes, it only takes a little
background research, to find
just how TIED INTO "The Power"
those 'Stars' and their Ilk, are.

[mariag]

What complete and utter BULLSHIT!

"THEY" BLOODY WELL KNOW
what the BLOODY HELL "They" DO,
and APOLOGISTS for "Them"
ARE ENEMIES of JUST LIFE;
Pure & Simple!

IMCHO.
Why fill the earth with more hate?? Love is the only thing that matters

[steevo]

Looks like those McCanns are "Campaigning for Change" :rolleyes: I wonder if their campaign is gonna mention neglecting their kids and leaving them alone whilst they go for a night out (if that is REALLY how it happend) :cool:

US VISIT GIVES DAD NEW HOPE
10:30 - 28 April 2008

The father of missing four-year-old Madeleine McCann believes his daughter is still alive.

In a television documentary, entitled Madeleine, One Year On: Campaign for Change, the youngster's parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, told how they were filled with renewed confidence their daughter could be found alive after visiting a specialist centre for missing children in America.

At the end of last month, the McCanns, from Rothley, visited America to see how its Amber Alert system was used to track down missing children.

Mr McCann, 39, and 40-year-old Mrs McCann, are still searching for Madeleine, who disappeared from their holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal, on May 3, last year.

Mr McCann told the documentary: ''We've spoken to a lot of people who said this is a country (America) that has more than two stereotypical kidnappings per week and, of those, only 40 per cent to 50 per cent end up being found dead .

"Most importantly of all, the younger the child, the less likelihood of serious harm.

''And these are people experienced in investigations saying, 'I really believe she's out there', and I think, yes, there was a first time where I've thought, I really believe it.''

Madeleine, One Year On: Campaign for Change, is to be broadcast on Wednesday at 8pm on ITV1.

Source (http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=132935&command=displayContent&sourceNode=132702&contentPK=20493044&folderPk=77465&pNodeId=132393)

[kweli]

hey-
i'm new (tadpole is the name). just saw the robert anton wilson avatar and thought i would drop a note to a fellow R.A.W. fan. i am just trying to figuring out how to navigate in this forum and have no idea what the fuck i am doing.

thank you for your time

the techi-tard tadpole

lol... and welcome to the forum. If you get stuck, just ask, most folk are more than willing to help out around here.

[mentalogirl]

Looks like those McCanns are "Campaigning for Change" :rolleyes: I wonder if their campaign is gonna mention neglecting their kids and leaving them alone whilst they go for a night out (if that is REALLY how it happend) :cool:



Source (http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=132935&command=displayContent&sourceNode=132702&contentPK=20493044&folderPk=77465&pNodeId=132393)

Am watching this now...unbelievable piece of propaganda whilst trying to convince everyone and themselves that leaving their kids didn't seem serious at the time.
He doesn't seem that affected by it,she seems a lot more emotional.
Real manipulative trash trying to regain some sympathy for them.

[pri01]

Am watching this now...unbelievable piece of propaganda whilst trying to convince everyone and themselves that leaving their kids didn't seem serious at the time.
He doesn't seem that affected by it,she seems a lot more emotional.
Real manipulative trash trying to regain some sympathy for them.


Kate is one bad actress and liar. Gerry lies somewhat more convincingly but doesn't quite convince. The first scenes we're given an insight into the type of mail they receive. They are carefully showing us that conspiracy theorists are hateful, psychotic morons who have no compassion for faultless parents anxious search for their missing daughter. One letter calling them greedy theaving bastards paying off the mortgage on their mansion with heart warming caring generosity from 'nice' public, is filed with others in the appropriate box. I think it was the psychotic mail box.

[diamond dogs]

Kate is one bad actress and liar. Gerry lies somewhat more convincingly but doesn't quite convince. The first scenes we're given an insight into the type of mail they receive. They are carefully showing us that conspiracy theorists are hateful, psychotic morons who have no compassion for faultless parents anxious search for their missing daughter. One letter calling them greedy theaving bastards paying off the mortgage on their mansion with heart warming caring generosity from 'nice' public, is filed with others in the appropriate box. I think it was the psychotic mail box.


I agree and what right do they have to preach about the orchestrated 'campaign for change'. They ARE still suspects (The only ones imo) and until their daughter is found (highly unlikely) they should keep their mouths shut don't forget they had a visit from social services shortly after they arrived back here.

At the very least they are irresponsible parents and do not have the right to 'propose' change or lecture to anyone...when are they going to show any sort of compassion......a pair of evil people...anyone have their correspondence address.....

[pri01]

I agree and what right do they have to preach about the orchestrated 'campaign for change'. They ARE still suspects (The only ones imo) and until their daughter is found (highly unlikely) they should keep their mouths shut don't forget they had a visit from social services shortly after they arrived back here.

At the very least they are irresponsible parents and do not have the right to 'propose' change or lecture to anyone...when are they going to show any sort of compassion......a pair of evil people...anyone have their correspondence address.....

That's right, they were spoken to by social services and were treated very differently for blatent child neglect or is it abandonment?

If this had been any other family, their remaining children will have been 'taken to a place of safety', which is a common term they use to remove children at risk.

It's quite evident that the McCanns are being advised by higher authority. The show last night saw Gerry and Kate giving a press conference showing the pajamas that Madeleine was wearing when she disappeared. I don't know if you noticed but whilst Kate was talking to the camera with the garments in her hand, Gerry was talking to Clarence Mitchel behind a booklet where he was being clearly advised what to say. These people are covering their backsides big style, and they have the cheek to label those who are on to them as 'Nutters'.

[phildee3]

On an interview with Kate and Jerry this morning (Radio 4), Kate said that she "knows," absolutely, that Madeline was abducted from the apartment.

When asked if it was possible that Maddie could have walked out, she said that it was absolutely impossible but that she could not reveal how she knows that.

mmmmm...

[pri01]

On an interview with Kate and Jerry this morning (Radio 4), Kate said that she "knows," absolutely, that Madeline was abducted from the apartment.

When asked if it was possible that Maddie could have walked out, she said that it was absolutely impossible but that she could not reveal how she knows that.

mmmmm...

On GMTV this week, I think Monday or Tuesday they had an expert on child abduction give an interview. I am sorry I didn't catch his name but he said that following investigation they know now, that Madeleine woke up whilst her parents were away. She knew where they were because she spoke to her Mother about why she didn't come to her the night before when she was crying. He claimed that Madeleine then let herself out of the apartment, walked down the steps and was abducted by an 'opportunist' who just happened to be around at this time.

He says that he now believes this to be the truth of the events of that night as it is not usual for abducters to target specific children. He then says that as a result, this 'opportunist' will probably take another child.

We hear so many accounts it has to have rung alarm bells across the World. People are too sedated on the manufactured distractions to see what is blatantly going on under their noses.

[diamond dogs]

On an interview with Kate and Jerry this morning (Radio 4), Kate said that she "knows," absolutely, that Madeline was abducted from the apartment.

When asked if it was possible that Maddie could have walked out, she said that it was absolutely impossible but that she could not reveal how she knows that.

mmmmm...

Well you can't believe a single word she says but she could be hinting that Madelaine was 'dosed up' with Calpol or something similar to keep her knocked out as the line of questioning went during her interviews with the Portuguese police...One theory was that she was given an overdose....

[pri01]

Well you can't believe a single word she says but she could be hinting that Madelaine was 'dosed up' with Calpol or something similar to keep her knocked out as the line of questioning went during her interviews with the Portuguese police...One theory was that she was given an overdose....
Hi there diamond dogs I love your passion, you can't believe in anything they say absolutely. The theory about her being given an overdose is out of the window in my opinion. These are clever so and so's.

Calpol is a pain killer, but it doesn't sedate. So it is a good point, worthy of a mention in court and quite rightly you need to highlight a parent giving drugs to their kids for other reasons. But, it wouldn't have knocked her out I'm afraid.

[phildee3]

But, it wouldn't have knocked her out I'm afraid.



The only other explanations I can think of are:
i) she was chained to the bed, or
ii) somebody that Kate knows was watching her.

Any other possibilities?

[soldier0fortune]

Booming demand for blond haired blue eyed children in Morrocco and much of North Africa.

Unfortunately, i dont think she is ever going to turn up.

[steevo]

Booming demand for blond haired blue eyed children in Morrocco and much of North Africa.

Unfortunately, i dont think she is ever going to turn up.

I suppose the muslims are to blame for this as well :rolleyes: lmfao

[soldier0fortune]

I suppose the muslims are to blame for this as well :rolleyes: lmfao

No, the people with a shit load of money that happen to live in a moslem (read oil rich re read rich) country are most likely to blame for this.

Its a lot easier and cheaper to move cargo (whatever that cargo might be) across the straits of gibraltar then it is to transport it anywhere else.

(shortest distance between two points is a straight line, a little fact the romans knew that seems to have been forgotten these days)

But as i am sure you have indulged in moroccan hashish (before it was tuned down into what it is now) before, im sure you already know that, which leads me to believe that your post was a pathetic attempt at wit.

If thats so then you are going to need to try again, maybe with someone under the age of 5, because to be honest anyone over the age of 5 can take your 'informed posts' apart in less then 5 seconds.

Please try again, i am in need of some amusement.

[lightgiver]

take a journey to the bright midnight,end of the night,realms of bliss,realms of light,some are born to sweet delight,summer born to sweet delight and some are born to the endless night,end of the night?:(wherever she may be,lets pray she as not suffered or is suffering,poor angel,we think of you maddie, and all the missing children in the world,who suffer because of mindless people:(:mad:

[h2pogo]

Booming demand for blond haired blue eyed children in Morrocco and much of North Africa.

Unfortunately, i dont think she is ever going to turn up.

I was in morroco several years ago in a wealthyish hotel where only the well of locals are allowed in . got talking to a local about trade in general,he said the same thing.children are worth more money than anythig else.but what is worse he said, some poor man making money or some rich man who wants to spend his money on children?its not just the rich he said but the very rich the ones at the top of our sosciety that are doing the buying.
since that conversation i have taken david icke alot more seriously.
I think the grove or balmoral would be the place to start looking for madeline.