Madeline Sacrafice

[julieray]

There is no shame in using an internet ID and I for one don't want certain people tracking me down through these forums. Safety comes first.

As for the pictures, well how is the woman "different?" Please point out the differences as one picture isn't clear and the other one shows just her torso and looking downwards. They might be different women with little girls on their backs. How common is this and is the woman wearing a dress regularly seen there? Why do you still maintain the kid is Madeleine?

I agree with you, there is no shame in using an internet ID, I never said otherwise and most people don't give their real identities and that is fine. I however have chosen to be open because that is the person I am, I was just pointing out that fact. I appreciate that safety comes first, but those who want to know will already know who you are anyway. That's just my view!:)

Back on to the photos....it is not the woman that I was querying it is the photos of the little girl. Yes I appreciate that the one claiming to have been Maddy is very blurred, but if you look at the shape of the faces of the two little girls, I don't personally think that they are the same girl and the hair on the blurred picture looks like very fine fluffy hair like a youngster has sometimes, yet the hair on the little girl who is definitely not Maddy has shiny glossy hair.

I am not saying that it is Maddy, but the two little girls (in my view) are definitely not one and the same.

[julieray]

Just another point I wish to make on these photos, bearing in mind that the original one was taken back in August. Isn't it surprising that on the day of that first photo being released, the reporter managed to go back to Morocco and find the "same" woman wearing exactly the same clothes??? Just a coincidence????? I very much doubt it!!! Definitely staged unless she only has one set of clothes!

[spacegurl]

I agree with you, there is no shame in using an internet ID, I never said otherwise and most people don't give their real identities and that is fine. I however have chosen to be open because that is the person I am, I was just pointing out that fact. I appreciate that safety comes first, but those who want to know will already know who you are anyway. That's just my view!:)

Back on to the photos....it is not the woman that I was querying it is the photos of the little girl. Yes I appreciate that the one claiming to have been Maddy is very blurred, but if you look at the shape of the faces of the two little girls, I don't personally think that they are the same girl and the hair on the blurred picture looks like very fine fluffy hair like a youngster has sometimes, yet the hair on the little girl who is definitely not Maddy has shiny glossy hair.

I am not saying that it is Maddy, but the two little girls (in my view) are definitely not one and the same.

Maybe you're right that the two girls are different. I was asking about the woman though in reference to the writer of the page and I wondered how he/she thought the women looked different.

Just another point I wish to make on these photos, bearing in mind that the original one was taken back in August. Isn't it surprising that on the day of that first photo being released, the reporter managed to go back to Morocco and find the "same" woman wearing exactly the same clothes??? Just a coincidence????? I very much doubt it!!! Definitely staged unless she only has one set of clothes!

That is odd. I never knew the picture was taken in August. Is the woman's clothing tradtional dress or maybe has one or similar set of clothes?

[julieray]

I see, sorry I didn't realise, but looking at the adult, it is very difficult to see if they are the same or not. So far as whether it is traditional dress, I'm not sure, but the original photograph the blurred one is from, they are all dressed differently anyway, so I wouldn't have thought so.

Perhaps the photographer kindly asked her to go and get dressed in the same outfit so that it looked more convincing to us!!!:rolleyes::)

[julieray]

I have noticed something else which is strange regarding this. If you click on that link again - you have to scroll down a bit now because other things have been added - but the adult in the picture holding onto the little girl is definitely a woman, in both pictures, but if you scroll down even further, there is another photograph that has been added with a man wearing the same get up holding onto a little girl??:confused:

I think there is definitely more to this story than meets the eye. I am not sure if it is some sort of costume, but not everyone was wearing the same clothes, so I personally think that it is unlikely. The two women are of different builds too when you look more closely. The nose of one is very pointed and prominent unlike the other and they are not the same build. It is all very strange indeed. If this is supposed to be some sort of cover up then they must think we are more stupid than I thought to fall for this pile of tosh.:rolleyes:

[pri01]

I think that the person carrying the child looks like a man.

[pri01]

sorry I should have added that I was referring to the blurred photo.

[spacegurl]

I have noticed something else which is strange regarding this. If you click on that link again - you have to scroll down a bit now because other things have been added - but the adult in the picture holding onto the little girl is definitely a woman, in both pictures, but if you scroll down even further, there is another photograph that has been added with a man wearing the same get up holding onto a little girl??:confused:
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Can you post the picture if you can? I saw another picture or two further down the page. One shows a clear pic of the woman holding the little girl in same clothes but her face is hidden downcast. If you mean that one then look at her hand - it's a woman's hand. I do think Pri01 is right saying the older blurry pic shows someone with a mannish face but it's hard to see.

[julieray]

I have to agree with you there, but the breasts are a bit of a give away, but they are different sizes on the different photos and the one that does look like a man has no breasts at all, so it does make you wonder if they are all completely different people. The little girl too is wearing the same clothes too, lucky that!!

[hilary upstart]

Have you noticed how all the attention is on Kate McCann ie Pictures of Kate crying, looking sad , whatever, but hardly any focus on Gerry McCann ? Could it be a classic diversionary tatic, if Gerry's the guilty one ?

[phildee3]

Have you noticed how all the attention is on Kate McCann ie Pictures of Kate crying, looking sad , whatever, but hardly any focus on Gerry McCann ? Could it be a classic diversionary tatic, if Gerry's the guilty one ?

Right on.
Charlotte Pennington said that Kate was genuinely distraught at the time of the disappearance.

Kate knows who took Maddie but not that they were going to.

Nor that Gerry helped them.

[jinjo5]

Right on.
Charlotte Pennington said that Kate was genuinely distraught at the time of the disappearance.

Kate knows who took Maddie but not that they were going to.

Nor that Gerry helped them.
...how do YOU KNOW that kate knows who took maddie?......at the very least you must know how idiotic that statement is........are you drunk?

[jinjo5]

Just another point I wish to make on these photos, bearing in mind that the original one was taken back in August. Isn't it surprising that on the day of that first photo being released, the reporter managed to go back to Morocco and find the "same" woman wearing exactly the same clothes??? Just a coincidence????? I very much doubt it!!! Definitely staged unless she only has one set of clothes!
....i think youre mad................
my original comment wouldve been 'stop talking out of you arse'

[phildee3]

...how do YOU KNOW that kate knows who took maddie

I went to school,
and they taught me that two plus two equals four.

[jinjo5]

I went to school,
and they taught me that two plus two equals four.
hahaha,i dont believe for a second you mean that.
Hope it doesnt happen to anyone in your family phil..............2 plus 2 equals 4 wont sound so arrogant and dismissive.

[phildee3]

hahaha,i dont believe for a second you mean that.
Hope it doesnt happen to anyone in your family phil..............2 plus 2 equals 4 wont sound so arrogant and dismissive.

It has, Jinjo.

That's another reason how I know.

[flapjack]

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/3009_maddie.shtml

latest lead

[julieray]

....i think youre mad................
my original comment wouldve been 'stop talking out of you arse'

Yes, you are quite right!!!! I think you are too!!:p

[john white]

I see, sorry I didn't realise, but looking at the adult, it is very difficult to see if they are the same or not. So far as whether it is traditional dress, I'm not sure, but the original photograph the blurred one is from, they are all dressed differently anyway, so I wouldn't have thought so.

Perhaps the photographer kindly asked her to go and get dressed in the same outfit so that it looked more convincing to us!!!:rolleyes::)

I expect that is very likely

[qasrose]

In the daily mirror yesturday and day before.

They changed the name of the photography who captured the maddy look a like

First her name was spelt, Clara then it changed too Cara

this to me proofs that this whole thing is one big fake. also they must have known it wasn't maddy from the time the first picture got published because they would have already had the last photograph in hand.

[hilary upstart]

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/3009_maddie.shtml

This is all getting a bit Scooby Doo. It was the maid, next it will be Carl the Fairground owner, or Chuck the petrol pump attendant!
Seriously, it's more than a bit strange Prince Charles getting involved. How the fuck would he know anything ? Unless of course it is an illuminati plot

[phildee3]

This is all getting a bit Scooby Doo. It was the maid, next it will be Carl the Fairground owner, or Chuck the petrol pump attendant!

No, no, no.
They're getting really warm.
Everyone knows that in murder-mystery fiction the butler did it!

[spacegurl]

News of the World is a pile of shit. It's saying the McCanns are innocent!

The new lead comes as desperate Portuguese police are STILL working on the discredited theory that Maddie may have been accidentally killed by mum Kate and then assisted by dad Gerry to cover it up.

A mysterious emailer writing to Prince Charles over this case... hmm the whole thing obviously a sacrificial conspiracy. The bastards are looking for someone to set up. Why the fuck would a sacked maid want to go out and kidnap a little girl? Its illogical. No disgruntled "bitter" ex-employee kidnaps a small child out of revenge. They must think we're all stupid.

[indigo]

No, no, no.
They're getting really warm.
Everyone knows that in murder-mystery fiction the butler did it!
no, no, no
It was Reverend Green in the Ballroom with the candlestick:p

[pedsi]

Gordon Smith,one of the best mediums around has been contacted by a member of the McCann family to assist in the search for madeline.It'll be interesting to see if he gets involved as I am sure if she is dead then he'll be the man to tell them.I seen him perform in Melbourne Aus and the information he was relaying to members of the audience was very accurate and detailed,not vague or generlising in any way.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2007/10/01/daily-record-psychic-to-help-madeleine-search-86908-19874023/

[qasrose]

Gordon Smith,one of the best mediums around has been contacted by a member of the McCann family to assist in the search for madeline.It'll be interesting to see if he gets involved as I am sure if she is dead then he'll be the man to tell them.I seen him perform in Melbourne Aus and the information he was relaying to members of the audience was very accurate and detailed,not vague or generlising in any way.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2007/10/01/daily-record-psychic-to-help-madeleine-search-86908-19874023/


Other mediums where contacted too including Colin Fry and Tony Stockwell I think.

[reptilianshapeshifter]

lol, in the same thread "one of the best" mediums told us all that she would be found during either august/september. So that was wrong.

If this bullshit was true she would have been found by now by the millions of self proclaimed mediums across the world.

[phildee3]

Gordon Smith,one of the best mediums around has been contacted by a member of the McCann family to assist in the search for madeline.It'll be interesting to see if he gets involved as I am sure if she is dead then he'll be the man to tell them.

The problem is, with ritual theophagy (the purpose of which is to contine the life of the sacrificial victim through the communicants) of someone who was made in the lab in the first place, how do you define what is "dead."

[julieray]

lol, in the same thread "one of the best" mediums told us all that she would be found during either august/september. So that was wrong.

If this bullshit was true she would have been found by now by the millions of self proclaimed mediums across the world.

How do you know that she has not been found?? Perhaps she has indeed already been found, just because it has not been put into the media does not mean that it has not happened. Perhaps it does not suit the powers that be to bring her out into the public domain just yet. According to "one of the best" mediums, she was never actually lost, so there again we have contradictory and contrasting views. The question is, will we ever really know the whole truth behind all this?? If those above the law have had a hand in all of this, they sure as hell will not be answerable will they??

[nightlight]

How do you know that she has not been found?? Perhaps she has indeed already been found, just because it has not been put into the media does not mean that it has not happened. Perhaps it does not suit the powers that be to bring her out into the public domain just yet. According to "one of the best" mediums, she was never actually lost, so there again we have contradictory and contrasting views. The question is, will we ever really know the whole truth behind all this?? If those above the law have had a hand in all of this, they sure as hell will not be answerable will they??
A very expensive smokescreen has been promoted to cover the truth about little Madeline's death.
But as the psychic information is not valued and in anyway not evidence I doubt the true facts of her death will ever be discovered unless some one has the courage to speak up. They have too much to loose materially.

If you read this article by Tim Fields you may be able to glean a little.
http://www.bullyonline.org/related/abuse.htm
We have done psychic rescue many years and know what happened to the poor child. She is safe now and loves her mummy -another victim perhaps.
Fear is a great weapon to silence.

As regards Satanic Ritual sacrifice it still continues here in UK, USA .
look up the cult of Hecate. But not in the death of Madeline except as another
act by those under the influence of the darkside.
from darkness to LIGHT

[spacegurl]

A very expensive smokescreen has been promoted to cover the truth about little Madeline's death.
But as the psychic information is not valued and in anyway not evidence I doubt the true facts of her death will ever be discovered unless some one has the courage to speak up. They have too much to loose materially.


I agree with most of it but not so much about psychic info, whatever that means. You're suggesting that psychics should be regarded as important in police investigations but many psychics don't get it right. It's hard to tell who knows and who doesn't, and not all of them know where missing people are.

If you read this article by Tim Fields you may be able to glean a little.
http://www.bullyonline.org/related/abuse.htm

Glean a little of what?

We have done psychic rescue many years and know what happened to the poor child. She is safe now and loves her mummy -another victim perhaps.
Fear is a great weapon to silence.

What does this whole paragraph really mean? Who is "safe now"? who loves whose mummy? :confused: A victim of what? Sorry but you're vague to me. You're making me guess that you're saying Madeleine is safe and with Kate McCann? You said she was dead.

As regards Satanic Ritual sacrifice it still continues here in UK, USA .
look up the cult of Hecate.

What has the Cult of Hecate got to do with Satanic Ritual sacrifice and sexual abuse? It relates to an historic pagan belief in Greece for the worship of Hecate the goddess and the moon, which is nothing to do with Satanism or the abuse/murder of children. The only demonisation of Hecate cult is found in the media and by Xtians.

[phildee3]

According to "one of the best" mediums, she was never actually lost

It doesn't take a medium to figure that out!
I mean, when you invest that much in creating something, you don't "lose" it.
You invest in security.

Who is this medium, jr?

They're right.

[eternal_spirit]

Just a question. What faith is/was she? Christian?

[eternal_spirit]

Hecate



Hecate is the Greek goddess of the crossroads. She is most often depicted as having three heads; one of a dog, one of a snake and one of a horse. She is usually seen with two ghost hounds that were said to serve her.

Crossroads rites and rituals http://www.blackendrecords.com/hecate/hecate_wp1.jpg

[eternal_spirit]

What I'm saying is if the mcanns are masons then hecate could tie in with this.

http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1085.cfm

[reptilianshapeshifter]

How do you know that she has not been found?? Perhaps she has indeed already been found, just because it has not been put into the media does not mean that it has not happened. Perhaps it does not suit the powers that be to bring her out into the public domain just yet. According to "one of the best" mediums, she was never actually lost, so there again we have contradictory and contrasting views. The question is, will we ever really know the whole truth behind all this?? If those above the law have had a hand in all of this, they sure as hell will not be answerable will they??

Yes and the point is you have to believe in something else to believe that madeleine is not missing and this is all a ruse. A problem when you put a lot of fantasy into things.

[eternal_spirit]

Just a question. What faith is/was she? Christian?

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It's more than likely Freemasonry is based on the Bible. Christ represents love peace etc,,,, Maddy would represent innocence and perfection, that's what Satanism want's for it's sacraficial rituals it fits like a glove.

[eternal_spirit]

[quote=spacegurl


What has the Cult of Hecate got to do with Satanic Ritual sacrifice and sexual abuse? It relates to an historic pagan belief in Greece for the worship of Hecate the goddess and the moon, which is nothing to do with Satanism or the abuse/murder of children. The only demonisation of Hecate cult is found in the media and by Xtians.[/quote]

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That's the irony, Hecate has more than one aspect....Hecate in heaven Diana, positive moon energy Goddess......Hecate in Hell negative aspects.

[eternal_spirit]

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It's more than likely Freemasonry is based on the Bible. Christ represents love peace etc,,,, Maddy would represent innocence and perfection, that's what Satanism want's for it's sacraficial rituals it fits like a glove.


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the Human Soul, its Nature & Destiny; Kabbalistic Doctrine Concerning Cause & Effect (Karma); Secret Tradition in Israel. Zohar-Serpent & Fall of the Angels; Biblical Traditions Kabbalistically Considered; Abraham, Melchisedec, Moses & the Law; Doctrine of the 3 Temples of the Messiah; Kabbalistic Teachings Concerning the Soul, Its Nature & Its Destiny. 186 pages, ISBN 1-56459-495-5. [NOTE: Again, Masonry reinterprets the Bible mystically. The Kabal is one of the major foundation stones of Masonry and the entire New World Order]

[eternal_spirit]

Of course I'm still open to other possibilities....But if this is a case of sacrificial murder, it's more than likely a scapegoat will be produced and paraded in front of the World's media as some lone nutter child killer, which most of the public will believe is the truth. It was the same with Ian Huntley who I believe did not commit the murders and was just another sacpegoat!

[nightlight]

[QUOTE=spacegurl;145324]I agree with most of it but not so much about psychic info, whatever that means. You're suggesting that psychics should be regarded as important in police investigations but many psychics don't get it right. It's hard to tell who knows and who doesn't, and not all of them know where missing people are. [/QUOTE}

Did I suggest that??

I know,because of past experience that psychic information is useless to the police- been there- tried that before- remember Millie Dowler etc.

There are spiritual laws in motion.
If it was that easy for mediums or clairvoyants the world just might be a bit of a better place.
When information does not work out it may be because it must be worked out in another way due to Karmic Law or just because some one is not doing their job properly.
And because you have died it does not always give you angels wings- there are a lot of mischief makers about on the 'other side' just as here on this plane of existence.
There is nothing like personal experience- it is a great teacher.

As regards the cult of Hecate like many '--isms' --osophy's' it has become degenerate usually to the sexual level. Sex is another great weapon of silencing and with the weapon of fear, and is being used to great degree nowadays.
It all boils down to motive.
The child is on the higher side of life now safe from her abuser.
I am not going to give you any more information about her- events -if any will decide.

[mariag]

Hi everyone,

I do not know if this has been posted before, but do people think poor Madeline may have been sacraficed? Look at the facts; the whole story has a very sinister and strange feel to it, in the UK and I believe all over the world the MEDIA HAS GONE MAD for this. Her parents also has a very strange air to them. The little girl is fair with blue eyes. Why the huge media push! Are some sick people feeding off human emotion again?

YES THERE ARE SUSPECTION OF A SACRAFICE ... THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN MISSING EVERYDAY IN THE WORLD AND THEY NEVER GET THIS MUCH ATTENTION AS MADELEINE DOES.. I THINK IT IS VERY ODD.
WHY CAN´T MEDIA EXPOSE ALL OTHER CASES TOO...? MADELEINE IS NOT THE ONLY ONE MISSING....

[julieray]

It doesn't take a medium to figure that out!
I mean, when you invest that much in creating something, you don't "lose" it.
You invest in security.

Who is this medium, jr?

They're right.

http://mara-gamiel.blogspot.com/search/label/Madeleine%20McCann

I believe in this man very much, his name is Matthew James. He has received threatening e-mails throughout this Madeleine case because he is more accurate than most I would suggest. They are not going to bother those who are way off the mark are they??

[spacegurl]

As regards the cult of Hecate like many '--isms' --osophy's' it has become degenerate usually to the sexual level. Sex is another great weapon of silencing and with the weapon of fear, and is being used to great degree nowadays.

Do you have any links or proof that the cult of Hecate is responsible for these things?

It all boils down to motive.
The child is on the higher side of life now safe from her abuser.
I am not going to give you any more information about her- events -if any will decide.


Who? what child? You're not going to tell me about who and why? You didn't give any straight answers to my last post. You're very confusing.

[spacegurl]

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That's the irony, Hecate has more than one aspect....Hecate in heaven Diana, positive moon energy Goddess......Hecate in Hell negative aspects.

I understand a lot about Hecate and the old gods. You don't believe in heaven and hell do you?
Heaven =good. Hell = bad. That is another xtian concept.

[julieray]

Just a question. What faith is/was she? Christian?

Her parents are devout Roman Catholics or at least they were, whether they have lost their faith over all this, I wouldn't like to say, so I would assume that Madeleine is also a Roman Catholic. Freemasonry, I would have thought, would fit into any religion so long as there is a belief in a God.

[julieray]

Of course I'm still open to other possibilities....But if this is a case of sacrificial murder, it's more than likely a scapegoat will be produced and paraded in front of the World's media as some lone nutter child killer, which most of the public will believe is the truth. It was the same with Ian Huntley who I believe did not commit the murders and was just another sacpegoat!

I am not certain that she was sacrificed, more so because would they allow such a hype on media coverage if she had been? I would have thought they would have put a stop to any media coverage so as not to draw too much attention to it.

My view would be that she is most definitely alive purely because they are hell bent on keeping the whole story in the media. It is a mind game for sure!

[spacegurl]

Originally Posted by eternal_spirit View Post
Just a question. What faith is/was she? Christian?

Roman Catholic parents. The child Madeleine couldn't have been any faith as she's too young to form an opinion and choose a spiritual path. You're not the religion of your parents.

[julieray]

Roman Catholic parents. The child Madeleine couldn't have been any faith as she's too young to form an opinion and choose a spiritual path. You're not the religion of your parents.


They did take her to Sunday School etc. so they were obviously bringing her up to become a like minded Catholic. But as you say, it would not have been of her free will or of her own choosing, but is anything at that age, apart from sweets and not going to bed!!:)

[spacegurl]

Hey yes I was raised a Protestant, went to church over christmas, had a mini bible given to me by the school and sang hymns. I wasn't a christian as it was forced on me young/indoctrinated. But in my teens I decided to look elsewhere and eventually understood my spiritual path was a heathen one. So my upbinging and family was Protestant but I wasn't. I hope that makes sense? :) If you slightly disagree with looking at it that way, or agree, then fine. It occured to me once that small kids don't really understand religion until they grow and learn.

[phildee3]

http://mara-gamiel.blogspot.com/search/label/Madeleine%20McCann

I believe in this man very much, his name is Matthew James. He has received threatening e-mails throughout this Madeleine case because he is more accurate than most I would suggest. They are not going to bother those who are way off the mark are they??

Thank you, jr.
Yes, you have steered us to this website before.
He is very good!
But we should be careful not to assume he's 100% correct because of that.
(although I feel he's a heck of alot more than 50% reliable).
I've added this to my favorites and will be checking on it more often.

I'm starting to get some much stronger intuitive feelings with this case.
Intuition itself is a form of mediumship.
One which is very underrated, I think.

I'm getting almost angry in my gut with the recent posts assuming that she is "dead" and "abused" by her abductors. It just doesn't feel right.


Neither does this:

"The grandmother of missing Madeleine McCann believes the four-year-old was drugged by her abductor before being carrried from the apartment. Eileen McCann claims otherwise the child would have shouted and screamed for her parents if she was being carried off by a stranger." DAILY MAIL

I've got a bad feeling about Eileen.
I think she knows darn well that Maddie was not taken by strangers!

These are very cold, materialistic people.
Madiline is tremendously valuable "property" to her "abductors" and has been treated accordingly, I'm sure.

[phildee3]

I am not certain that she was sacrificed, more so because would they allow such a hype on media coverage if she had been? I would have thought they would have put a stop to any media coverage so as not to draw too much attention to it.

My view would be that she is most definitely alive purely because they are hell bent on keeping the whole story in the media. It is a mind game for sure!

Lots of media coverage of Bush's crimes is exactly his m.o.!
This is one of the reasons why I think my outrageous theory is correct!
He just loves to "hide" his crimes right under our noses; - and laugh while he does it!
(hence the title of the 9/11 truth movie, "In Plane Sight").

[pedsi]

After watching the common purpose video osted by hagbard I'd say this could possibly be the connection between the McCanns and Gordon Brown and his cronies as opposed to freemasonry.

[phildee3]

After watching the common purpose video osted by hagbard I'd say this could possibly be the connection between the McCanns and Gordon Brown and his cronies as opposed to freemasonry.

link please, pedsi...

[pedsi]

Here ye go!

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...73594&hl=en-GB

[phildee3]

Here ye go!

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...73594&hl=en-GB

"The page cannot be found
The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable."

must be important!

[pedsi]

here's a link to the thread....interesting stuff!

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10716&highlight=common+purpose

[eternal_spirit]

I understand a lot about Hecate and the old gods. You don't believe in heaven and hell do you?
Heaven =good. Hell = bad. That is another xtian concept.

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No I don't believe in heaven and hell as in the after life.
Here is some more on Hecate.
The Biggest Secret David Icke pg 443,444 ( typed by me forgive the errors lol)

Another name for the Goddess Diana is Hecate. One of the ancient triads or trinities was that of Diana, Luna, Hecate..who where said to be three aspects of the same female energy. It was called Diana on earth, Luna in Heaven and Hecate in hell. Hecate is one of the premier deities in Satanism.and she is a version of Aphrodite and Venus, different names for the same energy.

After her husbands death, Jackie Kennedy travelled to the Greek island of Delos, the legendary birth place of Diana and Apollo and considered domain of Hecate, the goddess of the 'infernal arts'. Delos is known for this reason as the island of the dead. Hecate was portrayed as both virgin and whore and crossroads are the sacred places of Diana-Hecate.

It is at crossroads that the witches and the Grand Masters and sorcerors of Freemasonry perform their rituals. Crossroads are symbolic of the vortex points created where ley lines cross. In ritual sex magick, the wearing of clothes of the opposite sex and the performance of bi-sexual acts are called 'crossroad Rites' The women involved where called 'dikes' Crossroads are also places of human and animal sacrafice. And Hecate is known as ( sex and death Goddess ) and the Goddess of witch craft and sorcery.

At the pont de L'Alma, right at the spot where Diana died, the road that goes through the tunnel is crossed on the surface by another road which leads onto the Pont De L'Alma bridge. In fact this spot is a maze of crossroads.. And Diana died in the early hours of August 31 st. Hecate's day in the Satanic calender is August the 13th, but under the law of Satanic reverse symbolism and reverse numbers, ( Hecate's day of sacrafice is August the 31st!! )

[spacegurl]

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No I don't believe in heaven and hell as in the after life.
Here is some more on Hecate.
The Biggest Secret David Icke pg 443,444 ( typed by me forgive the errors lol)

Another name for the Goddess Diana is Hecate. One of the ancient triads or trinities was that of Diana, Luna, Hecate..who where said to be three aspects of the same female energy. It was called Diana on earth, Luna in Heaven and Hecate in hell. Hecate is one of the premier deities in Satanism.and she is a version of Aphrodite and Venus, different names for the same energy.

After her husbands death, Jackie Kennedy travelled to the Greek island of Delos, the legendary birth place of Diana and Apollo and considered domain of Hecate, the goddess of the 'infernal arts'. Delos is known for this reason as the island of the dead. Hecate was portrayed as both virgin and whore and crossroads are the sacred places of Diana-Hecate.

It is at crossroads that the witches and the Grand Masters and sorcerors of Freemasonry perform their rituals. Crossroads are symbolic of the vortex points created where ley lines cross. In ritual sex magick, the wearing of clothes of the opposite sex and the performance of bi-sexual acts are called 'crossroad Rites' The women involved where called 'dikes' Crossroads are also places of human and animal sacrafice. And Hecate is known as ( sex and death Goddess ) and the Goddess of witch craft and sorcery.

At the pont de L'Alma, right at the spot where Diana died, the road that goes through the tunnel is crossed on the surface by another road which leads onto the Pont De L'Alma bridge. In fact this spot is a maze of crossroads.. And Diana died in the early hours of August 31 st. Hecate's day in the Satanic calender is August the 13th, but under the law of Satanic reverse symbolism and reverse numbers, ( Hecate's day of sacrafice is August the 31st!! )

That is just David Icke's opinion on the subject. The ancient Greeks simply didn't view Hecate as Diana or as heaven and a hell being good and bad. This is the way xtianity has twisted old beliefs. What members of the elite do, for whatever reason, is part of the modern distortions and inversion of ancient pre-christian wisdom. Hecate is a symbol, not an actual divinity. She's like the eternal earth itself who represents life as well as death which is the process of eternity. It's neither good or evil.

[indigo]

It seems like people are finally waking up to the Madeleine cover up. I have been reading the mirror forums and sky forums, and now people are saying that apparently there was a man dining with them that night, who maddie called 'uncle Clarence':eek: and another woman who was a friend of Kates who worked for Sky. Could just be speculation, but it wouldn't bloody surprise me.

[julieray]

I caught the tail end of this story this morning on Sky News, but apparently someone has been paid £51,000 for 89 days work in Rothley (I think!) Is this the sort of way the Campaign Funds are being spent on??

[helloperator]

Has anyone heard of Daniel Morcombe?

http://www.danielmorcombe.com.au/description.html

Why did this story about Madeline get so much world wide attention, but the Daniel Morcombe story is only local to Australia?

[eternal_spirit]

Has anyone heard of Daniel Morcombe?


:confused:

[julieray]

Has anyone heard of Daniel Morcombe?

http://www.danielmorcombe.com.au/description.html

Why did this story about Madeline get so much world wide attention, but the Daniel Morcombe story is only local to Australia?

I have just done a Google search on the name before you edited it and I have just read (for the first time) of the little boy who went missing 6 months ago in Australia.

It does make you wonder why no media attention has been given to that story world wide, because we have never even heard of this over here in the UK.

But I suppose when you are a pawn (an unwilling one) serving a purpose in a Political Agenda (like little Madeleine) you have the backing of the media at your fingertips to ensure it does get rammed down people's throats!!

[helloperator]

Daniel went missing a little more than 6 months ago. He went missing in 2003. Completely vanished.

Who knows, he could have been abducted by some random nut and not a group with a political agenda to push...but the absence of world coverage for the Daniel case makes the Madeline case more eerie.

Is it because Madeline was a cute girl and Daniel was a boy, did that make the story more emotive for the media? Was it the location?

What actually is the political agenda you mention?

[reptilianshapeshifter]

:confused:

Your new avatar looks like the Yorkshire Ripper :D

[eternal_spirit]

Your new avatar looks like the Yorkshire Ripper :D

...............

Thanks jeez. I was about to change it anyway, definatley now lol

[eternal_spirit]

Your new avatar looks like the Yorkshire Ripper :D
.........

That better? Wait don't tell me I know looks like one of those blonde kids off that old Film Village of the damed. :D

[spacegurl]

Your new avatar looks like the milky bar kid :D

[julieray]

Daniel went missing a little more than 6 months ago. He went missing in 2003. Completely vanished.

Who knows, he could have been abducted by some random nut and not a group with a political agenda to push...but the absence of world coverage for the Daniel case makes the Madeline case more eerie.

Is it because Madeline was a cute girl and Daniel was a boy, did that make the story more emotive for the media? Was it the location?

What actually is the political agenda you mention?

Sorry I didn't realise he went missing in 2003, I thought it was recently.

The political agenda I mention is an opinion of many on this site, in relation to the Problem, Reaction, Solution scenario. It ranges from things as sinister as Microchipping of the population/children to making compulsary legislation to force everyone to be placed onto the DNA database. On the other end of the scale we have a EU Paedophile database being talked of as well as other kinds of safeguards with which to protect our children. To be honest, there is really nothing completely foolproof because at the end of the day, it is those above the law who are the perpetrators.

[pri01]

Look at this in todays UK newspapers

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/0710_maddie.shtml

With technology like this we can now feel rest assured that every single missing person can now be found and the MOD will now locate Bin Laden.

This man claims to track DNA using Quantum Physics and Global Satellite technology. Does our DNA contain a micro chip?

[eternal_spirit]

Your new avatar looks like the milky bar kid :D

..............

Ha ha. It's me when I was about three.

[phildee3]

Look at this in todays UK newspapers

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/0710_maddie.shtml

With technology like this we can now feel rest assured that every single missing person can now be found and the MOD will now locate Bin Laden.

This man claims to track DNA using Quantum Physics and Global Satellite technology. Does our DNA contain a micro chip?

This sounds like a form of dowsing to me,
and dowsing is a form of divination -
the reliability of which is proportional to the degree of morality in the ethics of the practitioner.
Otherwise all kinds of demons get in there (mostly mischevious!).

The path to the sea scenario sounds like a combination of the idea that Madeline's body was dumped at sea and the one that says she was taken alive.

This sounds like a Cornish pirate story to me, -
(channelling Daphne du Maurier, perhaps!)!

It's much more likely that she'd have been taken to the airport, - especially as it looks like there could have been a stand down by the Potugese police.

[spacegurl]

Ha ha. It's me when I was about three.

Cute :)

Look at this in todays UK newspapers

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/0710_maddie.shtml

With technology like this we can now feel rest assured that every single missing person can now be found and the MOD will now locate Bin Laden.

This man claims to track DNA using Quantum Physics and Global Satellite technology. Does our DNA contain a micro chip?

Seems weird to me.

[jp13]

I hope this posting is a new posting.
Has anyone seen the new Ikea advert on TV it amazed me when I saw it, it used the words LOOK over and over agin, at the end the 1st O (2nd letter on right in the word from left to right) "cry's" a comma remarkabley like the LOOK symbol on the official Madelaine website. I hope someone else saw it, not just me. I've only seen it once on Friday 5th October, quite late at night.

[indigo]

I found this post on the sky news forums. I round it really interesting;.............


The thing is, right from the beginning I have had this strong feeling that there is something much more to this than a simple abduction case, it feels as if it is all part of some ‘Grand scheme’ if you know what I mean. So I started digging, and the starting point was a book called ‘The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail. You may know of it, and the theory that the authors put forward that Jesus was married to Mary Magdeleine, had a daughter, and that after the crucifixion Mary left the Holy land and landed in France. In this book much mention is made of a mysterious church in the French village of Rennes-le-Chateau.

Well the mystery surrounds the fact that in the late 19th century the pastor of the church suddenly, and to this day inexplicably became very wealthy. He used a large amount of this money to renovate and decorate the then dilapidated village church. Thing is, despite using some of the finest artists and sculptors, most of the paintings had oddities and mistakes in them, and strange numbers and deliberately miss-spelt Latin phrases were also dotted about the place. I found a great website dedicated to this church,

http://www.rennes-discovery.com/index.html and if you don't mind I'll
direct you to some of those paintings. Most of the more interesting stuff
centres around a series of paintings depicting the fourteen stations of the
cross. This first link is to station eight.



http://www.rennes-discovery.com/station08_as.htm Notice the child wrapped
in a Scots tartan blanket. An odd piece of cloth for the Holy land over two
thousand years ago? Maddie's father is Scottish. I have looked into tartans
a little bit, and found that the McCann’s do not have a tartan of their own,
but are entitled, due to close family links, to wear the clan Macinnes
tartan. One of the Macinnes tartans, the hunting tartan, is somewhat
unusual, in as much as where most tartans are on a red or green background,
this one is on a pale blue background. Also the woman in the picture is
wearing something on her wrist.

http://store.findmadeleine.com/ A wristband, just like the one my daughter
and myself have been wearing for the past three months. No other character
in any other painting is wearing one, just the woman with the child.
This next painting is station ten.

http://www.rennes-discovery.com/station10_as.htm In the lower left corner
are three dice. The top two are the three and the five, the lower one is a
four. Maddie disappeared on the third of the fifth, aged four. I'll come
back to that picture in a moment.

The next painting is on the altar



http://www.rennes-discovery.com/altar01.htm

http://www.rennes-discovery.com/church8.htm In the top left corner is the
initial M. The second link shows a close-up, about the fifth pic down. M
for Madeleine or McCann?

http://www.rennes-discovery.com/church.htm#doorway Shows the outside of the
entrance door, and about a quarter way down is a Latin inscription and it's
translation, this is a terrible place. A very odd thing to find outside a church? Imagine if you were the McCann’s.
Your beloved daughter is missing, most of the world thinks she's dead, the
police think you killed her, the press is conducting a smear campaign
against you and you receive hate mail from strangers. Could you be in a
worse place?
Now to how I got to the date. Now the author of this site is clearly a damn
fine mathematician, so I can only assume he knows what he's talking about!

http://www.rennes-discovery.com/church9.htm#interpret Half way down he
reaches the conclusion that the number 168 is very important. 168 days from
the date of her abduction is October 18th. Now go back to the dice,

http://www.rennes-discovery.com/station10_as.htm I noticed that the five
dice was a little strange, as the centre spot looked like it was two smaller
spots, like the spot itself was in two halves. I wondered for a long time what this meant. Was it a five or a six? Was it trying to be both at the
same time or something in between, like five and a half? Well 168 days is
exactly five and a half months! October has 31 days, so the middle date,
starting from the first, is the 16th, but Maddie disappeared on the 3rd, so
five and a half months from there is the 18th! Finally, if you add up all
the possible values of the dice, three, four, five AND six, you get
eighteen. Eighteen spots in station ten. 18/10.

Finally, as I said I believed from the start, this is all part of something bigger than a simple kidnapping. No other story like it has been so global. There are websites
set up for her support, fundraising events around the world, balloons
released in Italy, school kids flying kites for her in Afghanistan, people
like me wearing wristbands in every country around the world, and here in
Britain, even after five months she is STILL on the front page of at least one national daily paper EVERY day. As I have felt, all along, her reappearance, apparently from the dead, would be seen as many as some sort of miracle, and that word will
almost certainly be on the front page of every paper around the world when
she is found. And don't forget, the McCann’s paid a visit to the Pope early
on, the one man in the whole world who could declare something as a miracle.

But why? Well, this is it! I believe Maddie is part of a sign, a sign of the imminent second coming of Christ!
If you go back to the door

http://www.rennes-discovery.com/church.htm#doorway there is another Latin
inscription. By this SIGN you will win. A sign that the second coming is
close. Remember the theory that Jesus was married to Mary Magdeleine, and
that after the crucifixion Mary took her daughter and went to France? Madeleine is the French derivative of Magdeleine! So, to get the worlds attention the good
Lord produces a small miracle, a child bearing the same name as the wife of
Jesus appears to return from the dead!
Oh, and the name Madeleine means watchtower. Watching for a sign perhaps?!

[illuminotti]

I hope this posting is a new posting.
Has anyone seen the new Ikea advert on TV it amazed me when I saw it, it used the words LOOK over and over agin, at the end the 1st O (2nd letter on right in the word from left to right) "cry's" a comma remarkabley like the LOOK symbol on the official Madelaine website. I hope someone else saw it, not just me. I've only seen it once on Friday 5th October, quite late at night.

i saw it too!!!!! i thought i'd be the only one to find it weird, even the wording that they use to describe things, echos madeleine.......
when i saw that look sign and what they said after i couldn't believe it!!

[illuminotti]

good post neila.....thanks for the info!!

[pedsi]

excellent post neila.... kinda reminded me of yer man tintins posts!

[tothestars]

I found this post on the sky news forums. I round it really interesting;.............


The thing is, right from the beginning I have had this strong feeling that there is something much more to this than a simple abduction case, it feels as if it is all part of some ‘Grand scheme’ if you know what I mean. So I started digging, and the starting point was a book called ‘The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail. You may know of it, and the theory that the authors put forward that Jesus was married to Mary Magdeleine, had a daughter, and that after the crucifixion Mary left the Holy land and landed in France. In this book much mention is made of a mysterious church in the French village of Rennes-le-Chateau.

Well the mystery surrounds the fact that in the late 19th century the pastor of the church suddenly, and to this day inexplicably became very wealthy. He used a large amount of this money to renovate and decorate the then dilapidated village church. Thing is, despite using some of the finest artists and sculptors, most of the paintings had oddities and mistakes in them, and strange numbers and deliberately miss-spelt Latin phrases were also dotted about the place. I found a great website dedicated to this church,

http://www.rennes-discovery.com/index.html and if you don't mind I'll
direct you to some of those paintings. Most of the more interesting stuff
centres around a series of paintings depicting the fourteen stations of the
cross. This first link is to station eight.



http://www.rennes-discovery.com/station08_as.htm Notice the child wrapped
in a Scots tartan blanket. An odd piece of cloth for the Holy land over two
thousand years ago? Maddie's father is Scottish. I have looked into tartans
a little bit, and found that the McCann’s do not have a tartan of their own,
but are entitled, due to close family links, to wear the clan Macinnes
tartan. One of the Macinnes tartans, the hunting tartan, is somewhat
unusual, in as much as where most tartans are on a red or green background,
this one is on a pale blue background. Also the woman in the picture is
wearing something on her wrist.

http://store.findmadeleine.com/ A wristband, just like the one my daughter
and myself have been wearing for the past three months. No other character
in any other painting is wearing one, just the woman with the child.
This next painting is station ten.

http://www.rennes-discovery.com/station10_as.htm In the lower left corner
are three dice. The top two are the three and the five, the lower one is a
four. Maddie disappeared on the third of the fifth, aged four. I'll come
back to that picture in a moment.

The next painting is on the altar



http://www.rennes-discovery.com/altar01.htm

http://www.rennes-discovery.com/church8.htm In the top left corner is the
initial M. The second link shows a close-up, about the fifth pic down. M
for Madeleine or McCann?

http://www.rennes-discovery.com/church.htm#doorway Shows the outside of the
entrance door, and about a quarter way down is a Latin inscription and it's
translation, this is a terrible place. A very odd thing to find outside a church? Imagine if you were the McCann’s.
Your beloved daughter is missing, most of the world thinks she's dead, the
police think you killed her, the press is conducting a smear campaign
against you and you receive hate mail from strangers. Could you be in a
worse place?
Now to how I got to the date. Now the author of this site is clearly a damn
fine mathematician, so I can only assume he knows what he's talking about!

http://www.rennes-discovery.com/church9.htm#interpret Half way down he
reaches the conclusion that the number 168 is very important. 168 days from
the date of her abduction is October 18th. Now go back to the dice,

http://www.rennes-discovery.com/station10_as.htm I noticed that the five
dice was a little strange, as the centre spot looked like it was two smaller
spots, like the spot itself was in two halves. I wondered for a long time what this meant. Was it a five or a six? Was it trying to be both at the
same time or something in between, like five and a half? Well 168 days is
exactly five and a half months! October has 31 days, so the middle date,
starting from the first, is the 16th, but Maddie disappeared on the 3rd, so
five and a half months from there is the 18th! Finally, if you add up all
the possible values of the dice, three, four, five AND six, you get
eighteen. Eighteen spots in station ten. 18/10.

Finally, as I said I believed from the start, this is all part of something bigger than a simple kidnapping. No other story like it has been so global. There are websites
set up for her support, fundraising events around the world, balloons
released in Italy, school kids flying kites for her in Afghanistan, people
like me wearing wristbands in every country around the world, and here in
Britain, even after five months she is STILL on the front page of at least one national daily paper EVERY day. As I have felt, all along, her reappearance, apparently from the dead, would be seen as many as some sort of miracle, and that word will
almost certainly be on the front page of every paper around the world when
she is found. And don't forget, the McCann’s paid a visit to the Pope early
on, the one man in the whole world who could declare something as a miracle.

But why? Well, this is it! I believe Maddie is part of a sign, a sign of the imminent second coming of Christ!
If you go back to the door

http://www.rennes-discovery.com/church.htm#doorway there is another Latin
inscription. By this SIGN you will win. A sign that the second coming is
close. Remember the theory that Jesus was married to Mary Magdeleine, and
that after the crucifixion Mary took her daughter and went to France? Madeleine is the French derivative of Magdeleine! So, to get the worlds attention the good
Lord produces a small miracle, a child bearing the same name as the wife of
Jesus appears to return from the dead!
Oh, and the name Madeleine means watchtower. Watching for a sign perhaps?!

First thing you have to ask yourself is: What does all this focus on the Madeleine case generate (energywise)?

Second question: Who benefits from this?

Third Question: Who controls most of the media?

Fourth Question: Do you think the Light would use force to promote a "second comming" by using the Illuminaticontrolled media? (i am sorry but that is not the way of the highest light).

Fifth Question: Who are obsessed by numerology and symbols? (you see a lot of that in the madeleine case)

I am not gonna answer those for you but i urge you to use your intuition and "google" :D

(Btw :Second comming of a person it is not the same as the second comming of an energy. Sounds like a worshipping of a personage if u ask me....).

[spacegurl]

I found this post on the sky news forums. I round it really interesting;.............


inscription. By this SIGN you will win. A sign that the second coming is
close. Remember the theory that Jesus was married to Mary Magdeleine, and
that after the crucifixion Mary took her daughter and went to France? Madeleine is the French derivative of Magdeleine! So, to get the worlds attention the good
Lord produces a small miracle, a child bearing the same name as the wife of
Jesus appears to return from the dead!
Oh, and the name Madeleine means watchtower. Watching for a sign perhaps?!

This is religious rubbish. Jesus never existed, neither is the Bible an historial account of real events. That "cloth" worn by the sculpture doesn't look like a tartan to me at all. Peasants wore criss-cross materials that were non-tartan in France back then. Xtians see Jesus and the Virgin Mary everywhere: in cloud formations, window and light reflections, even the bloody millenium year 2000 period was seen as Doomsday.

I do feel that there is something strange going on with this Madeleine case. I'm sure the parents were involved in her disappearance and they know where she is dead or alive. It seems also there might be a sacrifice which is why top people are involved. But logically there are other possibilities as well. It could be that they accidently killed her, covered it up and they have money and contacts with powerful people making this event shoved down our throats.

When you get religious nut cases looking for a sign that Jesus is here then it becomes a joke.

[mercuryrapids]

MMC = 2100 not 2003. 2003 is MMIII. Just FYI.

[tintin]

MMC = 2100 not 2003. 2003 is MMIII. Just FYI.

Your right.
Had picked the C as the third letter.
But 21 hundred is even better.
that's 7 + 7+ 7.

London bombings, 777, the 7 O'Clock eye.
Coming 700th anniversary of Templars day.

And just last week, a unique event.

In holland a brasilian scored 7 goals in the 7th game of the
season, in the year 7, on 7 October.

Never happened before, a guy scoring 7 goals in one game.

[pedsi]

Your right.
Had picked the C as the third letter.
But 21 hundred is even better.
that's 7 + 7+ 7.

London bombings, 777, the 7 O'Clock eye.
Coming 700th anniversary of Templars day.

And just last week, a unique event.

In holland a brasilian scored 7 goals in the 7th game of the
season, in the year 7, on 7 October.

Never happened before, a guy scoring 7 goals in one game.

Gee Whizz!! you got out of that one well...well done mate:D

[indigo]

Amazing stuff there tintin:D

[mercuryrapids]

MMC = 2100. Madeleine was 'taken' at about 21:00 hours.

[on the road]

You gotta be kidding!
What the ozzie "chosen people" have done/are doing to the aborigines is as bad, if not worse, than what the lizrailies are doing to the Palestinians!

think he said chosen land not people

[phildee3]

think he said chosen land not people

Oh yeh.

So whenz the "chosen people" gonna "return" there?

This is all redundant, old testament stuff anyway.
In the NT, we're all the chosen people (if we choose the light side) and the chosen land is therefore the plannit, innit?

[2013]

I dont think maddie is dead , i think she is being held somewhere .
The everton shirt gives it away The badge is an old small prison or holding cell that local drunks and trouble makers where locked in overnight.I know the area well i used to live there .Prince rupert had a stronghold there in the civil war .Also the team are knicknamed the Toffes after everton mints where named after them as there was a toffe shop close to the cell .Everton Mints ! the Royal conections and the Mint for creating money .Scotland conection royal bank of scotalnd They also have a walker as well! The peoples club another nickname The people have taken this case to heart!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Rupert's_Tower
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Everton_F.C.
Everton Football Club
Nickname(s) The Toffees, The Blues,
The People's Club
In November 1879 at a meeting in the Queen's Head Hotel, the team name was changed to Everton Football Club, after the surrounding area.[1] Barker and Dobson, a local sweet manufacturer introduced "Everton Mints" to honour the club. The district is also the location of the team's crest image, an old bridewell known as Prince Rupert's Tower.
90s Harvey, Walker, Royle and Kendall's return (1993-1997)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everton_F.C.
Everton were founded as St. Domingo F.C. in 1878 in order that people from the parish of St. Domingo's Church could play a sport outside of the summer months (during which time cricket was played). A year later the club were renamed Everton F.C. after the surrounding area, as people outside the parish wished to participate.[2] They were founder members of the Football League in 1888, and won their first League Championship title in 1890–91.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/graphics/2007/05/10/nmaddy4.jpg

[2013]

And here we have more links to the blues ,An apt nickname as the collective depression created fro mthis case in the public mind ,The peoples club .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everton_F.C. see supporters section on this link
On January 14, 2007, Sylvester Stallone was at Goodison Park to promote Rocky Balboa, and to watch Everton take on Reading in an English Premier League game. The match ended as a 1-1 draw. Stallone paraded on the field at half time adorned in a home team scarfe and received a warm reception from the 40,000 fans. Stallone has claimed to be a keen soccer fan since filming Escape to Victory in the 1980s and now claims to be an official Everton fan.[36]

Everton also have a large supporter base in Australia, with midfield player Tim Cahill being Australian.
So we have Rocky and Australia in the same paragraph :D
The crest of the club also suggests that she was held somewhere before being moved on so initially taken away , still looking hopefull for being alive
i feel .:D

[pri01]

Here is todays Maddie story in News of the world

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/2810_maddie.shtml

McCanns have hired a crack detective team who bost 100% success in finding missing children. I'm pretty sure you're right that she is alive and held somewhere. This story confirms that I think.

I cannot see an organisation that boasts 100% success rate would take on a case they weren't certain about. I have tried wikipedia on Metodo 3 but nothing came back.

[pri01]

Hi all. I would like to share one of todays daily bugle offerings.

I am not sure a 4 year old child would remember her original family after being kept away for 6 months, let alone remeber sufficiently to shout out for her daddy.

She has been reported to have been seen in distress many times now in various places yet no one seems fit or able to save and protect her.

Also the sighting is at a place in Bosnia where there is a Holy shrine which is visited by many. The sighting at Medjegurie (sorry about the spelling) is strange.

http://www.people.co.uk/news/tm_headline=maddie-tecs-close-in-on-bosnian%26method=full%26objectid=20091902%26siteid =93463-name_page.html

[astra]

I saw the picture of her in the paper and it makes her look like a boy,that newspaper article seems dodgy to me

[veritas2007]

Not sure if anyone has seen this:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13794

[qasrose]

they keep changing the story which proofs to be BS....

first they said they found dna to proof maddy is dead then there saying they've found more evidence she's alive... for god sakes end the story....

[tintin]

The parents killed their child and conned the world ..would all you woo woo's and numerologists please bury this insane thread ?

You seem to know more than I do.
Based on what?

[umbrex]

You seem to know more than I do.
Based on what?

bloodstains in their rental and apartment

at least im not stretching it to constructing possibilities of making it true just so i could avoid the obvious facts stated above

[tintin]

bloodstains in their rental and apartment

at least im not stretching it to constructing possibilities of making it true just so i could avoid the obvious facts stated above

Well if it's all very clear you, then why
is it continuing to be WORLD news day after day.
I mean, can't you see this is FAR more than a CHILD missing?

We are trying to show here that all these events are connected.
And they clearly are. Only supreme IDIOTS would deny that.

[i_am]

Thread is reopened. Please use this thread for any News on this case.

The symbolism is all intact and can be found here (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14318)

Thank you everyone for your patience :)

PS: this was a huge job and I may have inadvertantly moved something that should be here or left something here that should have been moved. Please let me know if you find anything.

Thanks!

[illuminotti]

I'm certain maddie will return, metodo 3 the agency hired to investigate are a rather strange bunch!! they investigate fraud and trademark issues,which in turn is also covering the mccanns backsides, due to the public backlash of the fund

[floppydisk]

With the recent news about Murat's girlfriend being involved, allegedly I might add and this group who claim to be closing in on the kidnappers, I thought about this as problem reaction solution.

The problem? Maddie goes missing.

The reaction? The usual one that happens when a child goes missing, amplified to it being in a foreign land.

The solution? Well this is speculation too, Maddie will be found "safe and sound". However "we must never allow our children to be separated from parents again" so therefore each child will be chipped and put on a database, for their safety and to keep parents happy.

Or am I being totally, totally cynical?

[emerald]

Sorry, but closing this thread and reopening it with that mention is - at least to me - ridiculous. Did it bother smb or what? Give a logical reason for this. The amount of info wasnt useless but it seems not even on this site we cant escape the "justice makers".

[indigo]

Did anyone watch Panorama last night? How convenient for Kate to have her film maker friend there directing the scenes:rolleyes: What a bloody farce. not to mention the fact they used the 'Twin Peaks' theme tune.

[john white]

Sorry, but closing this thread and reopening it with that mention is - at least to me - ridiculous. Did it bother smb or what? Give a logical reason for this. The amount of info wasnt useless but it seems not even on this site we cant escape the "justice makers".

Well however we view it, those pages and pages of threads did represent a lot of work, and thats commitment

And they havnt been lost and all the information in them is still there

But the earlier discussion of the MSM and the possible meanings of events as they unfold was lost in the sheer volume of free-form consciousness posts

Thats why the mod team has decided to give that info its own thread to breathe in Symbology, which clearly the info involves, and let this discussion open out again to be more in character with the original thread: hence restoring it on its course

And if you want to find justice, seek the balance within

[weregr8]

"A discussion of the MSM and the possible meanings of events as they unfold was lost in the sheer volume of free-form consciousness posts".... what the h---
Am I the only one who doesn't get this BS??? This thread has a tenth of the response since it was reopened. I know a lot of people here pride themselves on being poor... however, I have money (albeit American,) so I should say, I have money now. Anyway, I spend A LOT OF IT ON DAVID ICKE, not to mention, telling others of my love for him, so my question is... does he approve all his forum advisors himself or not??? What exactly does it take to work here?
John white was one of the guys constantly heckling vera susa and her posts, not to mention his ugly, scary and stupid avatar, then he gets a real politically correct one and all of a sudden he is a Forum Advisor...hhmmm...
Is that all I need to work here?
What is going on now?

[john white]

What's going on now is you appear to be over-reacting

Yes we all have pasts and different people have knocked together in different ways on different forums: but thats got nothing to do with the day to day running of this site

An explanation was requested for the thread alteration, and has been given

Theres really no need for such concern over an elimentary peice of forum maintainance

Nevertheless, please note that admin will not let this thread be derailed with needless speculations:

Save those for discussing the Madeline case

[phildee3]

This thread has a tenth of the response since it was reopened.

...because it takes a while for the stench of trolls to dissipate.

Thanks for restoring the thread, moderators.

Unfortunately, alot of good postings were not submitted due to their coup but the oversize, brightly-colored font brigade only managed to delay the truth from coming out temporarily.

Now, where were we?

[strawberry]

Thank goodness this thread has got back to the point. I felt like it had been highjacked

[peachped]

http://www.guardian-series.co.uk/eppingforestnews/eppingforestnews/display.var.1842729.0.essex_exlubbock_solicitor_lo oks_to_take_action_against_mccanns.php

'Mr Bennett, who alleges the McCanns were guilty of neglect under Section 1 of the Children and Young Persons Act 1933. said: "Obviously speaking as a qualified social worker I was concerned that no action was being taken."

Social workers are understood to have spoken to the McCanns but no action has resulted.

The family's spokesman, Clarence Mitchell, said the couple had committed no offence under UK law or any other country's law.

The McCanns left Madeleine, then three, and their two-year-old twins, Sean and Amelie in their holiday apartment in Praia da Luz while they ate at a nearby tapas bar. They and their friends took it in turns to make regular checks on the children.'


"Thank goodness this thread has got back to the point. I felt like it had been highjacked " - agreed.

[adzboarder]

With the recent news about Murat's girlfriend being involved, allegedly I might add and this group who claim to be closing in on the kidnappers, I thought about this as problem reaction solution.

The problem? Maddie goes missing.

The reaction? The usual one that happens when a child goes missing, amplified to it being in a foreign land.

The solution? Well this is speculation too, Maddie will be found "safe and sound". However "we must never allow our children to be separated from parents again" so therefore each child will be chipped and put on a database, for their safety and to keep parents happy.

Or am I being totally, totally cynical?

Bang on the money.

[internal vision]

Having Seperated The Symbolism From The Main Thread And The Rest Of The Posts Is In Itself A Symbolic Action.....everything Is Interconnected...there Is No Seperation...are The Moderators This Intelligent Or Has Some One Else Asked For The Seperation???
The Real World Is The Symbolic World..the Unconscious Responds And Works In Symbols...symbols Are The Connectors Of Energy Ladies And Gents...what The Symbolism Was Doing Was Showing You How Vast The Energetic Network Of This Case Is...by Having So Many Different Connections Spanning Over Such A Long Period Of Time The More Energy There Will Be To Harvest And The More Powerful The Sacrifice Was....see People ..i Dont Think You Do!!!! There Is No Separation!!!!...we Live In A Universal Energy FIeld By The Way...hellooo....the Illuminati Know All About Keeping Their [COLOR="Red"]Connections So The EnergyStays In The Same[COLOR="DarkSlateBlue"]Stream No Matter How Diverse Or Over How Much Time It Spans...there Is No Time!!!...NUMBERS HAVE ENERGY,INANIMATE OBJECTS HAVE ENERGY,MOVIES CARRY ENERGY, THE INTENT BEHIND THE MOVIE HAS ENERGY ETC... THIS THREAD HAS ALWAYS BEEN ON THREAD AND TO SAY THAT IT HAS GOT BACK ON TRACK WITHOUT THE SYMBOLISM OR ENERGY CONNECTORS IS INSANE....BY SEPARATING THE TWO THE MODERATORS HAVE DISSIPATED THE ENERGY...EITHER KNOWINGLY OR UNKNOWINGLY....SO WE EITHER HAVE CORRUPT MODERATORS OR COMPLETLY UNCONSCIOUS ONES....OR THIS IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF HOW DISCONNECTED PEOPLE ARE...RIGHT???

[john white]

BY SEPARATING THE TWO THE MODERATORS HAVE DISSIPATED THE ENERGY...EITHER KNOWINGLY OR UNKNOWINGLY....SO WE EITHER HAVE CORRUPT MODERATORS OR COMPLETLY UNCONSCIOUS ONES....OR THIS IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF HOW DISCONNECTED PEOPLE ARE...RIGHT???


Clearly not: given the interconnectedness of all things, the seperation you percieve is only an illusion of perception created inside youself

Leaving that aside, as mentioned this thread will not be allowed to be derailed with speculation about the motives/competance of moderation

SO I suggest its time to place those concerns aside, and post here about the MSM coverage, on the Madeline Symbology thread about the symbology, or even do both

[emerald]

Not in a million years this would have crossed my mind, internal vision. U said it and u said it rite! No matter moderators or trolls' opinions on this thread, the separation shouldnt have been done. But as I said Im glad all has come back to normal (sort of) and we may move on.

[internal vision]

Clearly not: given the interconnectedness of all things, the seperation you percieve is only an illusion of perception created inside youself

Leaving that aside, as mentioned this thread will not be allowed to be derailed with speculation about the motives/competance of moderation

SO I suggest its time to place those concerns aside, and post here about the MSM coverage, on the Madeline Symbology thread about the symbology, or even do both

No ILLUSION here
The ACTION has been taken in PLAIN sight for ALL to see
The act of SEPARATING the two threads
Do not try and TWIST REALITY
The only DERAILMENT has come from YOU
Knowing you wont budge from your stance(being the moderator etc)would you be so kind as to put the SEPARATED Madeliene sacrifice symbology thread right underneath the Madeliene sacrafice thread started by merlin
Or are you keeping it hidden?

[kaibraine]

OMG :eek: :confused: I'm speechless!

[john white]

No ILLUSION here

If you insist

The ACTION has been taken in PLAIN sight for ALL to see

Of course

The act of SEPARATING the two threads

Yes

Do not try and TWIST REALITY

Perish the thought

The only DERAILMENT has come from YOU

You're the only poster to mention the word. Very droll

Knowing you wont budge from your stance(being the moderator etc)

Nice to see people are learning

would you be so kind as to put the SEPARATED Madeliene sacrifice symbology thread right underneath the Madeliene sacrafice thread started by merlin

You mean bring it back to the News section and sticky it at the top?

No

Or are you keeping it hidden?

LOL! You do know theres an entire forum beyond this little slice at the top of news, don't you? Is that "hidden"?

I think not!

And guess what: if the thread is used, it stays at the top of the symbology section

Like all threads, it stands or falls on its merits

This is the last post I will make explaining this decision. Any further queries should be directed towards moderators by PM

[2013]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=496105&in_page_id=1770
robert Murat's daughter is named sofia dont know wether thats been discussed here before , im still full of flu so ill leave this for the gnostics here
to look into some more .Heres just one link i found relating to it
http://www.davincilegacy.com/Infringement/private/PerdueBrown-The-heroines-are-the-Goddess.html
:D

[cew91]

Is her family involved w/ any cults? because that would be your answer

[monkfish]

Did anyone not see the front pages yesterday? I saw them but was in a rush, i just caught a quick glimpse of 'Madeline/Jehovah's witnesses'. Checked on these boards but cant find nothing

[i_am]

Did anyone not see the front pages yesterday? I saw them but was in a rush, i just caught a quick glimpse of 'Madeline/Jehovah's witnesses'. Checked on these boards but cant find nothing



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=495324&in_page_id=1770


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=496100&in_page_id=1770&ICO=NEWS&ICL=TOPART

[astra]

I was watching Along came a spider last night, which is about a young girl who gets kidnapped and Morgan Freeman who is also in the due to be released Gone baby gone, is brought in to help find her.
At the very beginining of the film i thought i heard the words spoken "New World Order",also if you take out the letters from the Film Along came a spider you can make the name Madeline,maybe just a coincidence?

[nuit]

there was a panorama special on this on bbc news 24 last night i do not know if anyone else was as bored as me and watched it but interesting to say the least i will see if i can find a link for it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItYFXQOtiW4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbjXaKHMRas&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyN2kDsAvbs&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tSDPeeYZwM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WicwVRgbR1g&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX5cto4Ft5w&feature=related

found it :)

[adimon]

there was a panorama special on this on bbc news 24 last night i do not know if anyone else was as bored as me and watched it but interesting to say the least i will see if i can find a link for it

Welcome back Nuit. I'm glad you're feeling better and out of hospital x :)

[lottie]

there was a panorama special on this on bbc news 24 last night i do not know if anyone else was as bored as me and watched it but interesting to say the least i will see if i can find a link for it

found it :)

Excellent- thankyou nuit....i wanted to watch that but didnt have the time....now i have though! Im sure as its by the bbc it'll be full of shit but regardless- i'd still like to see their spin on it! Thanks again!

[nuit]

you are welcome, there is one part of it where i think the mother messes up and unknowingly reveals she knows more than what she is saying

the part where she says the abducter "knows" something, well how could she possibly know that or talk with familiarity in that way unless she knew the person?

[nuit]

Welcome back Nuit. I'm glad you're feeling better and out of hospital x :)

thank you :D

[lottie]

you are welcome, there is one part of it where i think the mother messes up and unknowingly reveals she knows more than what she is saying

the part where she says the abducter "knows" something, well how could she possibly know that or talk with familiarity in that way unless she knew the person?

Yeah i read an old magazine from august or somewhen and it had an interview with kate mcann and she was saying - "i went into the room and she was gone, i remember thinking 'they've taken her' and i ran outside and screamed 'they've taken her!' "
How at that point did she come to the conclusion that 'they'd taken her? My first reaction would be to look for her around the place as although alarmed i'd be thinking - she could have just wondered of to find mummy around the hotel complex? I dunno but that statement sounded weird!

[illuminotti]

.

[dickiebiz]

im sure some one has proberley mentioned this before, but all this attention in the press about maddie is one step towards getting people to accept the verichip. classic problem reaction solution.

If and when they find poor maddie the news will be all over the world, people will be glad that she has been found but then people will start asking well what can we do to protect our children from the same fate, at which time the govorment will introduce the option of having there children implanted with the verichip and then you ll proberly get some extremests saying that the chip should be mandetory for all new borns.

I only hope that poor maddie has not been horrificly abused as the more abused she is the more people who will be taken in by this verichip scam



ps sending my love to maddie in the hope that she is alive and well

[phildee3]

The latest development (in yestersday's Daily Mail) is interesting.

The Portugese police have some kind of evidence that the McCanns "sold" their daughter; - but, they admit, they didn't have the financial need to do so.
This supports my earlier postings which say that Maddie was "sold" as a part of the deal that was made to originally "manufacture" her in the lab; - a very expensive process which must have involved a number of people.

Like Merlin, in the Arthurian legands, they came back for what was agreed was theirs all along.

[2013]

That would certainly fit in with the comments of mrs mc saying on discovering maddie missing oh my god they've taken her :D

[phildee3]

That would certainly fit in with the comments of mrs mc saying on discovering maddie missing oh my god they've taken her :D

...and with the sighting of a man calmly carrying a child in pyjamas, away from the apartment, in full view of Gerry talking to his tennis buddy.

Had Gerry not crossed the road to delay him, his buddy would have bumped right into them at the top of the street!

[madmary]

I see something sinister going on here, but I don't see the parents being involved.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o284/mistytigergirl/Faces%20And%20Smileys/CleaningOutEar.gif

[kweli]

I see something sinister going on here, but I don't see the parents being involved.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o284/mistytigergirl/Faces%20And%20Smileys/CleaningOutEar.gif

I respect your opinion. I just wondered though, have you done your own investigations into the parents? or are you influenced by the 'Contolled media'?

[nuit]

...and with the sighting of a man calmly carrying a child in pyjamas, away from the apartment, in full view of Gerry talking to his tennis buddy.

Had Gerry not crossed the road to delay him, his buddy would have bumped right into them at the top of the street!

i never thought of that before, but yes you are correct he would of

[phildee3]

Right.
Now...
Why were the front window blinds opened?
A covert kidnapper would want to maintain the cover, surely?

So there was no kidnapping.

Gerry opened them to see his friend coming to pick up Maddie.

Does anyone have any other, better explanation?

[nuit]

well you know that it used to be , i am not 100% is this is still going on, but gypsies in Greece and the meditteranean used to pay money for blonde haired children.
I used to joke around telling my boy i was going to sell him to pay for my holiday villa over there, not so funny in the cold light of day when you think of Ben Needham and now Madeline
But it was said by me in tongue in cheek

[nuit]

Right.
Now...
Why were the front window blinds opened?
A covert kidnapper would want to maintain the cover, surely?

So there was no kidnapping.

Gerry opened them to see his friend coming to pick up Maddie.

Does anyone have any other, better explanation?

going back to this, if............and it is a bloody big IF, but if what the parents said is true and the abducter took a window of oppurtunity, how did they know that the exact room they were breaking into, was the childrens bedroom ?

[phildee3]

well you know that it used to be , i am not 100% is this is still going on, but gypsies in Greece and the meditteranean used to pay money for blonde haired children.

The McCanns are too wealthy, with connections to the elite, to be a part of this.

[phildee3]

going back to this, if............and it is a bloody big IF, but if what the parents said is true and the abducter took a window of oppurtunity, how did they know that the exact room they were breaking into, was the childrens bedroom ?

Why would they need to?
They could just look around.

Does anyone know if the front doors were locked or not?
I assume that only the back door was unlocked, and yet it appears that the "abductor" used the front.

[nuit]

Why would they need to?
They could just look around.

Does anyone know if the front doors were locked or not?
I assume that only the back door was unlocked, and yet it appears that the "abductor" used the front.

patio doors facing the tapas bar were unlocked, but the abducter apparently went straight in through the kiddies window, and as they only had a 5 min window of oppurtunity seems a little too convenient for me

[nuit]

The McCanns are too wealthy, with connections to the elite, to be a part of this.

also into swinging so the spanish police found out

[phildee3]

patio doors facing the tapas bar were unlocked, but the abducter apparently went straight in through the kiddies window, and as they only had a 5 min window of oppurtunity seems a little too convenient for me

I get your drift now.
But they still wouldn't have had to have known which room they were entering (if they indeed climbed in the window).
But this does sound like a fabricated story by Gerry to me.
If they'd climbed in the window while the blinds were down, why would they have then opened them once inside?
Why did Gerry not preserve the "break in" site and insist on the police fingerprinting it?

[phildee3]

also into swinging so the spanish police found out

How is this relevent?

[nuit]

How is this relevent?

just thought i would add it as it gives more revelation into their personal lives really

[nuit]

I get your drift now.
But they still wouldn't have had to have known which room they were entering (if they indeed climbed in the window).
But this does sound like a fabricated story by Gerry to me.
If they'd climbed in the window while the blinds were down, why would they have then opened them once inside?
Why did Gerry not preserve the "break in" site and insist on the police fingerprinting it?

surely, well as much as i remember from holidaying windows and shutters bolt on the inside, and you seriously dont leave windows open, 1) where small kiddies are 2) in hot country you keep the windows closed or shutters locked because of mosquitoes
There are far too many inconsistancies in the timelines also

[phildee3]

just thought i would add it as it gives more revelation into their personal lives really

For what purpose?

[phildee3]

surely, well as much as i remember from holidaying windows and shutters bolt on the inside, and you seriously dont leave windows open, 1) where small kiddies are 2) in hot country you keep the windows closed or shutters locked because of mosquitoes

No, I don't.
Nor do most people.
But the McCanns seem to have felt secure enough to have done so.
I don't doubt that they left the back door unlocked, so why would they not leave the window unlocked as well?
I think we have to give them the benefit of the doubt on this one.

There are far too many inconsistancies in the timelines also

I agree. This is a much more substantive line of questioning, imo.

[nuit]

anybody know what yesterdays outcome was of the meeting between forensics and the police? are the parents getting charged with manslaughter or not?

[nuit]

this is latest news i have just found

THE SUN front page: “McCANN FRIENDS HIT BACK – FURY OF TAPAS 7. Pals: there is NO pact”

Say the McCanns dining party: “The police told us not to discuss our statement. We’ve always tried to honour this. We wish to state there is categorically no so-called pact of silence – or indeed anything secretive between us. Just the desire to assist the search. It is frustrating that the facts we have done as we were asked is till being looked upon as suspicious”

“COPS IN WINDOW PROBE” – Paolo Rebelo is looking at the window of the McCanns’ holiday apartment. “is this how evil Maddie snatcher struck?”

Four pictures:

1. “Rebelo pushes window
2. Net curtains rustle in breeze as the window swings open
3. Detective leans in
4. Team confer about possible escape route”

“Fund paid mortgage” – Some of the £1million Madeleine McCann “fighting fun”

DAILY MIRROR front page: “NOW THEY BELIVE US – Police finally accept Madeleine was snatched”

Portuguese police are looking at possibilities

Says a friend of the McCanns: “At last, after all these months, Kate and Gerry’s story is being believed. They are very encouraged by the re-enactment of Madeleine’s abduction and the police now accept their version of events”

A policeman climbs through a window. He passes out a “large bundle”

“MADDY ‘SPOTTED 10 TIMES IN MOROCCO’” – Says private detective Francisco Marco: “Several unconnected people have told us of the same girl with the same woman. She has shorter hair than Madeleine. But everything else matches”. Like her name?
“MORTGAGE FUND FURY” – Says Clarence Mitchell: “The fund exists to help them when living costs became difficult”

DAILY EXPRESS front page: “MADELEINE – McCANNS USE FUNDS TO PAY MORTGAGE” – Two mortgage payments on their “£600,000” home

The Express leads with picture of Gerry McCann playing golf. Inset is a picture of Gerry McCann on a bicycle

“We’ve found a kidnapped blonde girl, but it’s not her” – A blonde girl in Morocco. She can speak English. She must have been kidnapped. Right?

Says Francisco Marco: “Blonde children are a valuable commodity in North Africa. They can be sold for huge sums and give prestige to families who buy them”

DAILY MAIL front page: “MADDIE FUND PAYS McCANNS’ MORTGAGE” – Mortgage repayments on their “£500,000” home. (How long before the Express and Mail start a heated debate on the value of the McCanns home and how that value has been affected by the story?)

Page 4: “Is she in the mountains? Investigators scour Morocco in the search for Madeleine”

Says the Mail: “In an extraordinary coincidence the detectives are reported to have already found an English-speaking blonde girl of about Madeleine’s age living with a local family”

How many more blonde children are in Morocco? And can we find them all?

DAILY STAR front page: “Maddie ‘alive in drug den’”

Page 7: “MADDIE’S IN MOROCCAN MOUNTAINS – Ten sightings with rich Arab”

Says Francisco Marco PI of the woman with the blonde child found in the Rif mountains: “My feeling is this woman is some sort of carer who is working on behalf of other people”

Says an “insider”: “It’s a very secretive country and the Rif mountains enjoy official protection because of the importance of the hashish production”

“McCanns in the clear – Portuguese police now believe Madeline was kidnapped”

THE TIMES page 13: “Police return to holiday apartment in attempt to solve Madeleine mystery”

Paulo Rebelo is inside the apartment. He walks to the beach. He passes Sergey Malinka’s home. He is on a road leading to the N125 main road

In Morocco, a 60-year-old woman is seen with a blonde child

“Funds for search used to pay mortgage on McCanns’ house” – The McCanns’ home is worth “460,000”

THE TELEGRAPH front page: “Police re-enact Madeleine night”

Page 17: Paulo Rebelo is at the Ocean Club. Says a source “close to the couple”: “Blonde children are a very valuable commodity in places like north Africa”

Paulo Rebelo is looking

[madmary]

The results of the forensic tests are not yet public, but are believed to still remain 'inconclusive.'
The McCann's are expected to be removed from 'suspect' status in the near future.
The portugese police have indicated that they need to re-interview the McCanns' and the 'Tapas 7.' But have not yet made a formal approach to the British government, police or the witnesses themselves.

[aizzy]

LOTS OF WANTED POSTERS IN THIS FILM

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=RNYTsc0PNw0&feature=related

:confused:

[aizzy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPLmYcQaVVE

[aizzy]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=csTGq0g8JT0

in are hearts she is she alive! and not a hair on her head has been touched!

[phildee3]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=csTGq0g8JT0

in are hearts she is she alive! and not a hair on her head has been touched!

Thank you, aizzy.

She is indeed.

The disgusting, "sacrafice" (in which her "parents" were complict) has backfired BIGTIME!

[pri01]

I don't know that much about child abduction but, how easy/difficult is it to climb out of a window with a terrified 3 year old who if awake would scream the house down? Alternatively, if she were sedated again how easy/difficult is it to climb out of a window with a limp and weighty young person without drawing attention?

I was recently locked out of my house and asked my young son to climb in through an open window. He is a young man 5' 4" ish standard build. He struggled to get in, but did eventually. The window was approximately 24" wide 12" high.

I don't know the dimensions of the window in McCanns apartment but nevertheless, climbing through any window alone, requires a certain amount of dexterity. Climbing through with a heavy load, and given the time frame requires assistance.

What do you folks think about this?

[phildee3]

I don't know that much about child abduction but, how easy/difficult is it to climb out of a window with a terrified 3 year old who if awake would scream the house down? Alternatively, if she were sedated again how easy/difficult is it to climb out of a window with a limp and weighty young person without drawing attention?

I was recently locked out of my house and asked my young son to climb in through an open window. He is a young man 5' 4" ish standard build. He struggled to get in, but did eventually. The window was approximately 24" wide 12" high.

I don't know the dimensions of the window in McCanns apartment but nevertheless, climbing through any window alone, requires a certain amount of dexterity. Climbing through with a heavy load, and given the time frame requires assistance.

What do you folks think about this?

Are they supposed to have climbed out of the window?

If so, why did they not use the door?!

[pri01]

Good point phildee3 however given the lies we are being fed every single day since may 3rd anything is possible. It doesn't harm to explore all options though no matter how bazzar.

[phildee3]

Good point phildee3 however given the lies we are being fed every single day since may 3rd anything is possible. It doesn't harm to explore all options though no matter how bazzar.

It does harm if it creates more confusion and leads us further away from the truth.

If nobody claimed that the window was used to exit the apartment, why bring it up?

Alternatively, if this was claimed - and the door could have been opened from the inside - this makes it likely that the "break-in" scenario is fabricated.

Does anybody know?

[pri01]

What truth would that be? As I said in my previous post we are being lied to and have been lied to on a daily basis since may 3rd. I appreciate your point though.

[phildee3]

What truth would that be?

Ultimately, was Madeline "sacraficed"?

The truth that we are trying to get to with here (at least, I am), as a step towards the above, is "was she taken by associates of the McCanns?"

As I said in my previous post we are being lied to and have been lied to on a daily basis since may 3rd.

Of course we are being lied to, or more accurately - conned;
...and the way this is done is for them to feed us some truth (to gain our confidence), some half truths and some lies.

There have actually been some days when they have been 100% truthful;
that's how the confidence trick is played.

Such a day is usually followed with an important, big lie.

[pri01]

Ultimately, was Madeline "sacraficed"?

The truth that we are trying to get to with here (at least, I am), as a step towards the above, is "was she taken by associates of the McCanns?"



Of course we are being lied to, or more accurately - conned;
...and the way this is done is for them to feed us some truth (to gain our confidence), some half truths and some lies.

There have actually been some days when they have been 100% truthful;
that's how the confidence trick is played.

Such a day is usually followed with an important, big lie.


Absolutely, I used to be very interested in the media coverage of this until recently. I am a little bit lost with the story as I am sure lots of people are. The whole thing is deliberately chaotic.

You know the type of things they have done on a daily basis spewed out by the press. For example the stories to date include senarios such as; she died in the apartment; she is buried in the grounds of the church; she is alive and kept captive in Morroco; Murat did it; Murat's partner took her; Metado3 know where she is; Portuguese police now believe Kate's story; Portuguese police want to interview them all again; She has been seen in Malta;
The list is exhaustative and goes on, and on and on.

As a result of truths mixed with what you describe as half truth together with lies, I find it difficult to believe any of the story other than the child is missing.

The scary thing is, that I will be very worried the day that this story or anything related to it, is not printed in the newspapers.

[phildee3]

I find it difficult to believe any of the story other than the child is missing.

Why on earth would you believe that?
That's the biggest lie of all!

No wonder you find the whole thing so confusing.

Throw away this rediculous belief, and things start to make sense.

[pri01]

Why on earth would you believe that?
That's the biggest lie of all!

No wonder you find the whole thing so confusing.

Throw away this rediculous belief, and things start to make sense.

I should rephrase what I said, and say that I believe she is kept hidden from the public at large by the state controlled media.

[phildee3]

I should rephrase what I said, and say that I believe she is kept hidden from the public at large by the state controlled media.

If you do that, and actually believe that, you should be able to get an idea of what has happened to her; - using intuition, logic, or whatever tool suits depending on whether you're right-brained, left-brained, or whatever.
Now,
do you see her?
where is she??

[pri01]

If you do that, and actually believe that, you should be able to get an idea of what has happened to her; - using intuition, logic, or whatever tool suits depending on whether you're right-brained, left-brained, or whatever.
Now,
do you see her?
where is she??

You're wrong, I can do that, and actually believe it, without getting an idea about what has happened to her. The reason; intuition doesn't come into it. The media coverage is so exrtraordinary, and somewhat outragious, most intelligent people will pick up on this. This is why I can believe it(the hype, that is).

Your post suggests that you know more. Would you care to show me?

[phildee3]

intuition doesn't come into it.

Sounds like you're predominantly left-brained then.
So use logic.

Your post suggests that you know more. Would you care to show me?

Sure.
Use the tools of this forum to search my previous posts on this thread.
It's all there.

[2013]

just watched a crap horror movie http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1104679/
666 the beast out of curiosity to see if any coincidences appear in the movie. The movie obviously about the anti christ and the second coming of christ has as its leading lady an actress playing twins in the movie her names are kate and sara but wait the sara character is called sara madeline
s owe have two key names and twins coincidence or not? :D

[pri01]

Thank you, jr.
Yes, you have steered us to this website before.
He is very good!
But we should be careful not to assume he's 100% correct because of that.
(although I feel he's a heck of alot more than 50% reliable).
I've added this to my favorites and will be checking on it more often.

I'm starting to get some much stronger intuitive feelings with this case.
Intuition itself is a form of mediumship.
One which is very underrated, I think.

I'm getting almost angry in my gut with the recent posts assuming that she is "dead" and "abused" by her abductors. It just doesn't feel right.


Neither does this:

"The grandmother of missing Madeleine McCann believes the four-year-old was drugged by her abductor before being carrried from the apartment. Eileen McCann claims otherwise the child would have shouted and screamed for her parents if she was being carried off by a stranger." DAILY MAIL

I've got a bad feeling about Eileen.
I think she knows darn well that Maddie was not taken by strangers!

These are very cold, materialistic people.
Madiline is tremendously valuable "property" to her "abductors" and has been treated accordingly, I'm sure.
Hi there Phildee3, I am not clear on the theory of applying right/left brain logic/intuitive, whatever. However I believe that I can be both. I too, don't believe Eileen knows nothing. You have to put yourself into the mindset of a Liverpudlian, brought up in Anfield and then catapulted into the grandiose social heights that is offered by being a social animal living in Allerton. You're very right. I instictively took a dislike to Eileen as she represents some people that I really dislike. However, she has an aura or something that I can't seem to touch. It's the same with Kate I don't connect.

[phildee3]

I instictively took a dislike to Eileen as she represents some people that I really dislike. However, she has an aura or something that I can't seem to touch. It's the same with Kate I don't connect

That's because they are reptilians, for sure.
I'm surprised nobody's said this on this thread before.
I'm not sure, though, if they're reptilian bloodline or walk-ins.
Their background that you mention seems to suggest the latter which, in my book, makes them even more despicable.

Sure you can be both left-brain thinking and right-brain (though rarely at the same time!).
Here you are using the left (intuitive) side.
A balance is best, imo.
And, like those who sell out to walk-ins, we do have a choice.

[pri01]

That's because they are reptilians, for sure.
I'm surprised nobody's said this on this thread before.
I'm not sure, though, if they're reptilian bloodline or walk-ins.
Their background that you mention seems to suggest the latter which, in my book, makes them even more despicable.

Sure you can be both left-brain thinking and right-brain (though rarely at the same time!).
Here you are using the left (intuitive) side.
A balance is best, imo.
And, like those who sell out to walk-ins, we do have a choice.


Thanks for this, I really appreciate your help in my developing a better understanding on this.

There is one thing that keeps bugging me though. How many people do you think are in on it or at least know about it?

I thought that the tapas7 were hiding more than they were letting on. However, the likelihood of someone slipping up is increased, the more that know.

I ask this because you mention in an earlier post that you believe that she was taken DC and that the Portuguese police, would have had to know this to help secure her passage.

[pri01]

Thought I would present todays daily offering in relation to Maddy case.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2007/12/04/smidgen-of-dna-could-be-mccann-key-89520-20199702/

I was drawn to this story reluctantly as I have lost a lot of interest in the tabloid coverage because of waffle, lies , and lies behind the lies.

It was the sample of human cells they talk about here, that attracted my attention.

It specifically states the total sum of 17 human cells in this sample which is the most unusual description of forensic evidence I have come across.

Exactly 17 human cells which will provide only a smidgen of DNA for analysis?

Each cell has 23 .666 pairs of chromosomes in its nucleus. That's the entire blueprint of an individual with 17 copies to work with isn't it?

[pri01]

Thought I would present todays daily offering in relation to Maddy case.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2007/12/04/smidgen-of-dna-could-be-mccann-key-89520-20199702/

I was drawn to this story reluctantly as I have lost a lot of interest in the tabloid coverage because of waffle, lies , and lies behind the lies.

It was the sample of human cells they talk about here, that attracted my attention.

It specifically states the total sum of 17 human cells in this sample which is the most unusual description of forensic evidence I have come across.

Exactly 17 human cells which will provide only a smidgen of DNA for analysis?

Each cell has 23 .666 pairs of chromosomes in its nucleus. That's the entire blueprint of an individual with 17 copies to work with isn't it?

[phildee3]

How many people do you think are in on it or at least know about it?

We are talking about a high level "illuminati" operation here.
There are many operatives, but each one only knows only a very small part of the whole.
The man who carried Maddie away, for example (and I find the witness who saw this, and the identikit picture, very credible) is/was not much more than a paid courier (although a dark "secret society" member - closely related to, or an "offshoot of" Skull & Bones) in that he doesn't need to know the background nor the outcome.

There are three groups.
1. The elite reptilians. David has these pretty well counted and named.
2. The medical doctors who are playing Dracula (cloning is just the tip of this horrific iceberg!). I don't know - maybe half the medical profession? ("In on it," that is. None of them know shit!)
3. The couriers who liase between groups 1 and 2. Sworn to secrecy through blood pacts, they also have intelligence connections and training. This is a very small group of specialized 007 types! But who knows? Maybe there's a stash of them somewhere, already programmed without them knowing much (if anything) about it, waiting to be activated.

you mention in an earlier post that you believe that she was taken DC and that the Portuguese police, would have had to know this to help secure her passage.

This would only need to be one person if he had enough authority.

One of my pet peeves is how we credit organizations with human attributes (like "the" police, "the" United States of America, "the" church, etc.).
Organizations do not "know" things, make decisions, nor take any action; - individuals do.
And things get done on the instructions of individuals who have the power.

[phildee3]

It specifically states the total sum of 17 human cells in this sample which is the most unusual description of forensic evidence I have come across.

"Most unusual"??
You are a very polite person, pri01.

I hope I do not offend;
but I would use the word "crap"!

Pure tabloid journalism!! (imho :))

[phildee3]

maybe half the medical profession? ("In on it," that is. None of them know shit!)

I take that back.
you are probably asking how many are in Madeline's "family" - staffing "Dracula's laboratory."
I don't know... Twenty??

[timelord]

I'm getting more and more convinced that Maddie will be found Christmas Eve or early hours of Christmas Day. Can you imagine the change in the perception of Gordon Brown and the Government if a bleary eyed, teary Gordon is interviewed on the BBC News first thing Christmas Day stating "what a wonderful Christmas this will be".

Or am I being totally cynical?

[on the road]

I'm getting more and more convinced that Maddie will be found Christmas Eve or early hours of Christmas Day. Can you imagine the change in the perception of Gordon Brown and the Government if a bleary eyed, teary Gordon is interviewed on the BBC News first thing Christmas Day stating "what a wonderful Christmas this will be".

Or am I being totally cynical?

I dont think there is any 'movement' to make gordon brown look good at all.

I think the aim at the moment is to make him and his gorvernment look like dicks so we vote the other dick in.

[pri01]

"Most unusual"??
You are a very polite person, pri01.

I hope I do not offend;
but I would use the word "crap"!

Pure tabloid journalism!! (imho :))


You're right, it's all 'crap'. :)
I used the term "most unusual" because I have never seen any article quote very specifically the size of a forensic sample.

[phildee3]

I dont think there is any 'movement' to make gordon brown look good at all.

I think the aim at the moment is to make him and his gorvernment look like dicks so we vote the other dick in.

I don't think there's any 'movement' or 'aim.'
Just lots of people waking up to realize what a dick really looks like.
They don't care which dick is in.
But they do make a huge effort to keep the current one in
and perform many dark rituals to eradicate the last threads of democracy.

[phildee3]

I see that the "other" thread has changed the name from Madeline "sacrafice" to "sacrifice."
They are in denial of the sacramental nature of the event.
9/11 was a sacrifice - 3000 people - to Molech.
Madeline/Magdalen is a sacramental sacrifice. Death and resurrection.
She is indeed alive.

[tintin]

I see that the "other" thread has changed the name from Madeline "sacrafice" to "sacrifice."
They are in denial of the sacramental nature of the event.
9/11 was a sacrifice - 3000 people - to Molech.
Madeline/Magdalen is a sacramental sacrifice. Death and resurrection.
She is indeed alive.

Guy is trying to play word games.

[ak87]

I'm getting more and more convinced that Maddie will be found Christmas Eve or early hours of Christmas Day. Can you imagine the change in the perception of Gordon Brown and the Government if a bleary eyed, teary Gordon is interviewed on the BBC News first thing Christmas Day stating "what a wonderful Christmas this will be".

Or am I being totally cynical?

Has anyone seen the threads on the astrological planetary alignments from 21-24 december 2007? apparently this period is significant and it could perhaps be the day maddie returns

[jeffvickers]

Glory to capitalism then. A fake story injects the late capitalism christmas shop!

[synergy777]

http://ben-fairhall.blogspot.com/2007/12/dun-jinns-and-dragons.html

Dun-jinns and Dragons

There are certain characteristics common to all stories warranting occult investigation. The incident will have occurred on or around a specific date or 'window': a 'wrinkle in time' which a little research will prove to be curiously rich in symbolism. Similar discoveries will likely pertain to its spatial location too- often possessed of a far greater historical and mythic pedigree than its surface existence would suggest. The events themselves are peopled by characters that seem to embody archetypal forces as much as singular personalities; are heralded by 'prophecies' of various forms; and provoke a whole series of uncannily familiar aftershocks.

Two events of recent months, both of which fulfilled these criteria to a tee, were the abduction (or murder) of Madeleine McCann in May, and the murder of Meredith Kercher in November. The two incidents share other things in common, too, as we shall see. Just as Madeleine died- or was taken- on the evening of May 3rd, 2007, very close to the climax of the festival of Beltane, Meredith was murdered in the evening of November 1st: the calendrical Samhain, or All Hallow's Day.(1)

The locations, in both cases, were highly symbolic. Meredith was killed in the Umbrian hilltop village of Perugia, one of Italy's great treasures. It is seeped in the history of the Etruscan (Atlantean-Sumerian) civilisation, as well as the later Roman and Rennaissance periods. It is also closely associated with the Knights Templar: an honour shared with the McCanns' Leicestershire village of Rothley, as another article will explain. (The thirteenth century Church of San Bevignate, a mysterious local hermit, is attributed to the Templars; and, to the best of my knowledge, is the only one of its kind. Bevignate has not been formally canonised and is not recognised by the wider church.)

And it seems they had good reason to be there: Paul Broadhurst, the author of The Dance of the Dragon, discovered that the 'Apollo Line' passes directly underneath the fifth century Church of San Michele: a sixteen-sided building erected on the site of a 'former' pagan sun temple.

The name Madeleine, of course, evokes the Magdalene; who, in her 'mother phase' as Mary (Semiramis) is associated very powerfully with the sea. In this form she is known as Stella Maris, the star of the sea: a maritime association that became a running theme of our Madeleine investigation, by dint of her talismanic initials (MM) and their relationship to Maritime Greenwich, the focal point of Britain's millenium celebrations. (2000 = MM in Roman numerals.)

Underlining the subtle relationship between the two murders is the fact that Meredith also evokes the same watery themes: mer, the first three letters of her name, is the French word for sea, as well as the compound root of 'mermaid' and 'merfolk.' (It is also the title of one of the most celebrated works by Claude Debussy, an alleged former Grand Master of the Priory of Sion.)

Etymologically, the name is commonly (if inaccurately) translated as 'guardian or protector from the sea', once again evoking the Virgin in her guise as Stella Maris, patron saint of seafarers. Even Meredith's surnname, Kercher, seems to resonate similar themes; kirk is the Scottish English word for 'church', derived from the Koine Greek. At a stretch, therefore, we could combine the sound and etymology of both words to derive 'Guardian of the Church of Mary.' (The role attributed to the Priory; who many believe inherited the secrets of the sacred feminine which were central to the original Johannite teachings.)

Both events were 'prophesied' in various subtle ways. Those relating to Madeleine, and the events surrounding her, we will look at more closely at a later date; but for a good example of the phenomenon let us consider the occult ritual of far greater magnitude which was 9/11. In that case, the foreshadowing was very pronounced: 'The Lone Gunmen' pilot, the short-lived X-Files spin-off, which aired in March 2001, being the most infamous example. (The show featured a hijacked airliner, under remote control, being directed towards the World Trade Center towers: narrowly avoiding a collision, thanks to the intervention of the series' heroes.)

In the Meredith Kercher story we see similar forces at work. The evening before her murder, Meredith- from Coulsdon in Surrey- had been out on a Halloween bar crawl with some friends. The evening concluded at the esoterically-named Merlin's Bar in Perugia, a popular student destination, where Meredith- dressed as a vampire- was photographed posing with friends and locals. In one of these shots- uploaded to her Facebook account on the morning of her death- she is pictured with fake blood dripping from the corners of her mouth, standing next to a person in a Scream mask. A third person, dressed as an Italian police officer, brandishes a toy gun in her face.

More strange photographs emerged with the arrests of Amanda Knox, Meredith's housemate, and Raffaele Sollecito, Knox's boyfriend of two weeks standing. As featured on her MySpace page, Knox, a University of Washington student from Seattle, was shown posing playfully with what appeared to be a machine gun. And a picture of Sollecito, also uploaded to MySpace, showed the Italian as a 'mad surgeon', with a cleaver and a bottle of bleach.(2) Journalists also discovered a short story, written by Knox in December 2006, in which a man accuses his younger brother of drugging and raping a female acquaintance: which was seized upon by some as evidence of a capacity for evil that the student's friends and family deny.

In some ways, her circumstances mirror those of Krystian Bala, the Polish writer who, in September, was jailed for twenty five years after detectives found similarities between the plot of one of his novels and the real-life killing of a young advertising executive in 2000. Overlooking, for a moment, the (probably rather significant) connection between Bala's estranged wife and the victim, it is important to remember that information of astonishing accuracy is easy to access by an active imagination shackled to the right 'channels.' In such cases- as we saw in the example of 9/11- any artistic expression (even a blog) may contain 'portents' or 'signs' which, in a certain light, could look like foreknowledge or premeditation. When this occurs, and somebody becomes a channel, wittingly or unwittingly, of information from an external source, I consider them 'Illuminised.'

This may result in much more than mere clairvoyance; inspired by the overshadowing intelligence- whom I call 'the Dagon'- the host may find themselves enacting certain rituals. And this, as we saw in the case of Cho Seung-Hui, can, and frequently does, result in the sort of bloodshed of which 'Foxy Knoxy' now stands accused. So was Miss Knox temporarily 'Illuminised', as the evidence from her MySpace account would lead me to conclude? Yes, if the case of Madeleine McCann is anything to go by; where signs of the Dagon ('the fingerprints of the gods') were legion.

Take the vision purportedly experienced by Gerry McCann in the church in Praia da Luz, a vision which left him feeling like 'a man possessed.' (His words, not mine.) This is just what we might expect from somebody who had deliberately sought to 'raise the light', i.e the kundalini- via occultism or 'spritual science'. (Praia da Luz, we should note, translates as 'the Beach of Light'; and its church, exploited so shamelessly by the child's 'parents', as 'Our Lady of the Light.')

Gerry, a consultant cardiologist who learned his trade in Glasgow- whose famous necropolis has been exposed as a 37 acre-wide masonic symbol- may well be a Freemason; his trade, his membership of a government advisory panel, and his friendship with Gordon Brown, are all likely indices of that. And Masonry, as a system- particularly in its Scottish Rite and Grand Orient forms- is expressly designed to enable its initiates to be possessed by 'powerful' demons- of the kind, for example, that the aforementioned Mr Brown, and practising Satanist Tony Blair, are so patently in thrall to.

But occultism is only one method of 'opening the stargate'; even conventional religion can perform the same function, particularly those religions- such as Mormonism and Spiritualism- which are based on a form of cabalism. And the church at Praia da Luz is a relatively short distance (240 miles) from Fatima: the site of what was arguably the most important 'visitation' (of Our Lady) of the twentieth century. Such an emphasis on 'the goddess' (in her Catholic form, Mary) is the defining characteristic of such religions, taking their cue from the devotion afforded to Queen Semiramis in ancient Babylon.

Thus, by dint of conventional observance alone, in the specific locality of Praia da Luz with its strong connections to Fatima, its proximity to Gibraltar- an island with a long history steeped in Marianism, see here- and the very convincing links between the Fatima visitations and the UFO phenomenon, Gerry may well have been possessed by an alien intelligence.

A full reckoning of the evidence is outside the scope of the present article, but of the many examples we could select, perhaps the most clear are the several unconscious references to the abduction in the storyline of a Hollywood film directed by Ben Affleck, which was due to be released in the UK in September. (It has, in fact, just been released in the United States.) The movie, entitled Gone Baby Gone, starred the director's brother as a private detective investigating the disappearance of a girl in Boston, Massachussetts- a role played by a four-year old actress named Madeline O'Brien. Such 'traces', either before or after the event, are the very hallmarks of the Dagon; a 'recurring feature' in occult investigations, as noted above.

Two similar echoes followed the Meredith Kercher murder. The first, which surfaced on November 5th, concerned a text message sent, by accident, to a man in Rome forty eight hours before Meredith's death: 'For me, tonight or tomorrow, Meredith dies.'

This was later discovered to refer to Meredith Grey, the star of a popular medical drama set, appropriately enough, in Amanda Knox's hometown of Seattle. In an episode which must have been broadcast on or very close to the night that Meredith Kercher died, the character undergoes a full Near-Death Experience before being resuscitated by her doctor colleagues.

The second 'echo' was even clearer. On the evening of November 15th, two weeks after Meredith's murder, something very strange occurred in an affluent Parisian suburb with a name which will be oddly familiar to students of conspiracy research: Saint-Germain-en-Laye. For here it was that Jessica Davies, the troubled niece of Quentin Davies MP, was arrested for the murder of her lover in circumstances that so closely mirrored the events in Perugia that they were described in the press as a 'copycat killing.' (Even her former boyfriend- who was not present at the time- was subjected to a lengthy interrogation by detectives; who, according to The Times, 'feared that the couple had set out to recreate the murder of Meredith Kercher.')

Saint-Germain-en-Laye is a place of tremendous significance, as we might expect. Its royal chateau was the birthplace of at least three kings; including the 'Sun King' Louis XIV, in 1638. Through its eponymous saint, an early bishop of Paris, it was closely associated with the Merovingian King Childebert; and where the House of Stuart relocated to after the English Revolution. It was here, according to Hancock and Bauval, that 'the first official Masonic lodges on French soil began to emerge'; and was, in more recent years, the birthplace of Claude Debussy: a former Grand Master of the Priory of Sion, as noted above.

It also connects into a panoply of occult and New Age groups for whom the 'Count of St Germain', a mysterious eighteenth century adventurer, has been elevated to the ranks of 'Ascended Master', not infrequently presiding over an Order of Melchizedek. (Click here.) According to several of these, as governor of the 'ray' most associated with the coming age of Aquarius- the 'seventh'- St Germain exerts a telepathic influence over those people involved in bringing it to pass. A very fitting place, then, for the culmination (or continuation) of a ritual which, as I have hinted, is part of an effort to inaugurate just such an age; whose principal 'weapon' is indeed mind control. Was Jessica Davies 'illuminised'? She was certainly on prescription drugs, which may well amount to the same thing. She was also extremely drunk: another condition which lends itself to temporary possession, as we have seen before.

(Her uncle, Quentin Davies, is the member of Parliament for Grantham and Stanford; who made headlines when he defected from the Conservative to the Labour benches, on June 26th this year. Not only was this a day before Tony Blair (Belial) stepped down as Prime Minister, it was also, coincidentally or otherwise, the eve of the feast of St Madeleine. He is a former student of the Dragon School in Oxford, whose crest features a wyvern (rather like the griffin on the coat of arms for Perugia) and whose motto- ARDUUS AD SOLEM- means 'Towards the Sun.')

The clinching piece of evidence emerged a few days later, on November 20, when the identity of a fourth person wanted in connection with the murder of Meredith Kercher was released to the media. (The third, Diya 'Patrick' Lumumba, a Congolese-Italian bar owner, has since been released without charge.) He, too, is a MySpace user; and was, in fact, arrested in Germany after attempting to access his account. He is also an occasional contributor to the dictatorship of idiots which is YouTube, having posted there an extremely revealing- if not a little disturbing- video, which is still online to this day.

His slurred, incoherent outburst suggests a mind temporarily unhinged by some highly toxic substances, temporary or permanent mental illness, or else in the grip of an equally toxic external force: states which are largely equivalent, in my view. Could there be a better- or worse- example of malevolent 'Illuminism'?

"Oh my God. I'm an extra-terra. I'm from alien earth who must be called human people. Oh Mamma. I'm a vampire. I'm Dracula. I'm gonna suck your blood."

Notes:



(1): The 'actual' date, determined by the sun, varies within a fixed range, from year to year; according to when the sun reaches 15 degrees in Scorpio. For those living in the northern hemisphere, that date, in 2007, fell on November 7th. 'Samhain,' writes Ellis Taylor, 'marks the beginning of the traditional reign of the Lord of Darkness.' The feast of All Hallow's, its Christian equivalent (celebrated originally on May 13, and relocated to its present date by Pope Gregory III) is based on the Roman Feast of the Lemures, or Lemuria: intended to propitiate the restless spirits of the dead.

(How interesting, then, that Armistice Day, November 11- recalling the cessation of hostilities 'on the eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month' in 1919- should fall on the same day, November 1, when 'converted' into the Gregorian calendar. I may well devote a future article to this subject, covered recently by Matthew Delooze. Please click here for more.)

(2)- Knox and Sollecito themselves now stand accused of sexually-aggravated murder, with Knox believed to have set up and aided the assault on her roommate by holding her down whilst the rape took place. Meredith's DNA was discovered on one end of a knife belonging to Sollecito, and DNA belonging to Knox was found at the other; rather eerily, considering his 'mad doctor' MySpace pic, the knife had been bleached, presumably in an attempt to destroy the evidence.


more at the link.

[greenleaf]

I reckon the same crowd are gathering for another ritual...

McCanns meet holiday dining friends (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/pressass/20071210/tuk-mccanns-meet-holiday-dining-friends-6323e80_2.html)
The parents of Madeleine McCann have met the seven friends they dined with on the day their daughter disappeared, their spokesman said.

Held at a Leicestershire hotel at the end of last month, it was the first face-to-face meeting of the group, dubbed the Tapas nine, since the McCanns' return to Britain.

Advisers for the Rothley couple were present, said Clarence Mitchell, but the former Foreign Office spokesman denied the private meeting was held for the friends to compare their accounts of May 3, the day the four-year-old disappeared.

He said: "It was uneventful as far as we are concerned and it's not significant.

"It is the first time the nine have sat down face to face. It was really just a get-together to discuss where they are at.

"Clearly, some might face further questioning at some stage. It was not to change stories or compare notes. It was a get-together of friends who find themselves at the centre of a story."

The McCanns were dining with the seven friends at a tapas restaurant in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz when Madeleine went missing from their holiday apartment.

The party included the McCanns, Russell O'Brien and his partner Jane Tanner, Rachael and Matthew Oldfield, Fiona and David Payne, and Mrs Payne's mother Dianne Webster.

Mr Mitchell added: "The meeting was as much a show of support for Gerry and Kate. This was in no way to get their stories straight.

"This is the age of email and phone. They could have done that a long time ago."

[harrypotter]

Have u ever heard about the one time powerful Erev Rav and the 49th

Gate of uncleanliness

SCARY

:eek:

[pri01]

I reckon the same crowd are gathering for another ritual...

McCanns meet holiday dining friends (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/pressass/20071210/tuk-mccanns-meet-holiday-dining-friends-6323e80_2.html)
The parents of Madeleine McCann have met the seven friends they dined with on the day their daughter disappeared, their spokesman said.

Held at a Leicestershire hotel at the end of last month, it was the first face-to-face meeting of the group, dubbed the Tapas nine, since the McCanns' return to Britain.

Advisers for the Rothley couple were present, said Clarence Mitchell, but the former Foreign Office spokesman denied the private meeting was held for the friends to compare their accounts of May 3, the day the four-year-old disappeared.

He said: "It was uneventful as far as we are concerned and it's not significant.

"It is the first time the nine have sat down face to face. It was really just a get-together to discuss where they are at.

"Clearly, some might face further questioning at some stage. It was not to change stories or compare notes. It was a get-together of friends who find themselves at the centre of a story."

The McCanns were dining with the seven friends at a tapas restaurant in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz when Madeleine went missing from their holiday apartment.

The party included the McCanns, Russell O'Brien and his partner Jane Tanner, Rachael and Matthew Oldfield, Fiona and David Payne, and Mrs Payne's mother Dianne Webster.

Mr Mitchell added: "The meeting was as much a show of support for Gerry and Kate. This was in no way to get their stories straight.

"This is the age of email and phone. They could have done that a long time ago."

Emails and phone calls will have been well monitored and they're not stupid people, I don't think.

[pri01]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2007/12/12/resort-stripped-of-madeleine-mccann-posters-89520-20237362/ (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2007/12/12/resort-stripped-of-madeleine-mccann-posters-89520-20237362/)

This is interesting today as the actual story was front page with the heading along the lines of the 'Girl who doesn't exist'. I can't remember the exact words but it prompted me to think wether she actually does exist. It's all very strange. Could it be possible that Made-leine doesn't actually exist?

[pri01]

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/m3/dec2007/4/0/CDE620EC-DA59-325A-DD038BF59A37594B.jpg

[tintin]

And notice the little TEDDY
BEARS above the big headline.

The girl that never was....
It's gets more and more mysterious....

[emerald]

And notice the little TEDDY
BEARS above the big headline.

The girl that never was....
It's gets more and more mysterious....


The name of the newspaper in itself is enuff: DAILY MIRROR. Remember Maddie's eye mirrored...

[howie]

New video of Madeleine released from Xmas 2006 filmed at home in Leicester

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/305/maddydm2312468x33219286gc2.jpg

[pri01]

New video of Madeleine released from Xmas 2006 filmed at home in Leicester

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/305/maddydm2312468x33219286gc2.jpg

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2007/12/22/kate-sends-madeleine-christmas-message-89520-20262331/ (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2007/12/22/kate-sends-madeleine-christmas-message-89520-20262331/)

It really is a strange thing to say I think with what it is said Gerry says on the recordered Christmas footage.

[phildee3]

Why is it that Kate and Gerry's Christmas messages sound so insincere?

[pri01]

New video of Madeleine released from Xmas 2006 filmed at home in Leicester

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/305/maddydm2312468x33219286gc2.jpg

Why is it that Kate and Gerry's Christmas messages sound so insincere?


That's because they're scripted and they're rubbish actors.

[ethanmya]

sickening isnt it? They handed that baby over. No two ways about it. Theyve got guilt written all over there faces..

[victoriagrad]

I am not very familiar with the details of the sordid story, but, I do know for sure that this little girl was ritualistically murdered. Every so often I can see into other realms, not very pretty and heart wrenching, but, I do feel that little Madeleine was brutally murdered. I feel hopeless and terrible that we all watch what is going on and we do not know how to stop it! If we can put together a type of 'instructional manual' for how to fight efficiently these monsters who are destroying us, I can provide a few ideas! In the mean time, cheers, they did not kill us all, yet!

[pri01]

This was the front page on Christmas eve from one of the tabloids Uk.

There is a lot going on from the message written in top left hand corner of the brown parcel 'cuddly toys m' to the little I think Russian child holding Micky Mouse.

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[howie]

Mirror, Monday, McGowan, Man United, Mis-teeq (Alesha), Madeleine, Minnie Mouse...mmmmm.

[pri01]

Mirror, Monday, McGowan, Man United, Mis-teeq (Alesha), Madeleine, Minnie Mouse...mmmmm.

The actual place toys were sent to and shown on a map inside the paper was Minsk.:)

[tintin]

The actual place toys were sent to and shown on a map inside the paper was Minsk.:)

Seal of Minsk.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/12/Coat_of_Arms_of_Minsk%2C_Belarus.png

Looks like MARY and a few Angels....

[phildee3]

I am not very familiar with the details of the sordid story, but, I do know for sure that this little girl was ritualistically murdered. Every so often I can see into other realms, not very pretty and heart wrenching, but, I do feel that little Madeleine was brutally murdered. I feel hopeless and terrible that we all watch what is going on and we do not know how to stop it! If we can put together a type of 'instructional manual' for how to fight efficiently these monsters who are destroying us, I can provide a few ideas! In the mean time, cheers, they did not kill us all, yet!

Your posting is very revealing to those who read carefully.
You say you know for sure that she was ritualistically murdered.
She was.
You say you feel she was brutally murdered.
She wasn't.
You are blessed with the ability to see into other realms, victoria, but your emotions confuse the truth that you so clearly see.
If you stay completely objective, and not let your subjective feelings in, and you will then see the whole truth!

[pri01]

This front page Boxing day was interesting with the specific number of witness callers.

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After yesterdays revelation you would think that the bells would be ringing out today with specifics such as witness accounts, sightings arrests even. But nothing-what a suprise.

I think I said in an earlier post several weeks ago that the minute this little girl is no longer talked about in the tabloids is the time to be worried. That's my current feeling anyway.

[magicmerlin]

I'm not sure this has received much focus on this thread, and I must say that I've only just realised this fact myself and it may have serious significance....

Robert Murat has one eye!

[pri01]

I'm not sure this has received much focus on this thread, and I must say that I've only just realised this fact myself and it may have serious significance....

Robert Murat has one eye!

How did you learn this?

[titan]

I don't think she was sacrificed. If she was we would never have heard about her disappearance. I think she's alive and will be coming home.

[magicmerlin]

How did you learn this?

Seems to be very widely publicised in the media.....I read it in the Sun here, http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/maddie/article628332.ece

I have googled this elsewhere and it's true, the guy has one god damn eye (I imagine one is glass)!!!


"Sisters Annie Catherine Wiltshire and Jayne Jensen, both from Kent, claim to have seen the one-eyed oddball lurking outside apartment 5A on May 3."

[kindandgentle]

I haven't read through all the posts as there are too many.
Earlier posts mentioned Maddie's right eye, asking what is wrong with her eye.
Its very very simple. No conspiracy here.
I have a son and his eye is like this. The black on the eye (the pupil) looks like it has run and is misshapen, it is not. No one's eyes are all uniform in colour, there are variations within it - look in the mirror.
His eyes are blue. There is a dark pigment in the blue of the iris near to the pupil, so it gives the appearance that the pupil is misshapen. If it were not close to the pupil it wouldn't be noticed.
So its just that, dark pigment in the colour of the eye (iris) so close to the pupil that it makes it looks disfigured, when it is not.
:);)

[magicmerlin]

Hi welcome to the forum - but I think you're missing the point about the eye........no one is saying the eye is unique. What is being suggested is that Maddie is not a random child - i.e. her abduction was not by chance but by design. If this is the case then her eye becomes significant because of the symbolic link of the eye and the fascination/importance of symbolism to certain secret groups and esoteric practices.

[sir nob jerkoff]

The latest development (in yestersday's Daily Mail) is interesting.

The Portugese police have some kind of evidence that the McCanns "sold" their daughter; - but, they admit, they didn't have the financial need to do so.
This supports my earlier postings which say that Maddie was "sold" as a part of the deal that was made to originally "manufacture" her in the lab; - a very expensive process which must have involved a number of people.

Like Merlin, in the Arthurian legands, they came back for what was agreed was theirs all along.


If Madeleine is cloned, the company that created her would "own" her patent.


http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/node/1712

[phildee3]

If Madeleine is cloned, the company that created her would "own" her patent.


And if not cloned, but the result of an expensive, more conventional IVF, the financiers would still control the family.

The latest is that the Portugese police have evidence that Gerry and Kate "sold" Maddie.
I think she was "sold" when they went into debt over her "conception."

[soopsje]

I read the first reaction on this. I was shocked by the remark that the parents had a strange air to them...How would your air be if your 3 year old had disappeared?
And about the eye: I have a brown spot in one of my blue/green eyes. That doesn´t make me strange... The fact that they made this a point in the media is of course that this makes the child recognizable. Seems quite clear to me.

[phildee3]

I read the first reaction on this. I was shocked by the remark that the parents had a strange air to them...How would your air be if your 3 year old had disappeared?


Nothing like theirs, believe me.

It did happen to me, in 1982.

[ethanmya]

Nothing like theirs, believe me.

It did happen to me, in 1982.

What happened?

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[phildee3]

What happened?

My four year-old child was abducted.

[ethanmya]

My four year-old child was abducted.

Im so so sorry. As a mother myself my heart goes out to you so much and I cant even begin to imagine what u must be going through. I will pray for your baby and you and your family.God bless you all, love nichola.

[pri01]

My four year-old child was abducted.

My heart goes out to you phildee3, I can't imagine how that would feel.

[pri01]

I am not sure if this clip has any relevance to the Madeleine case but is seems so coincidental. This film by Mel Gibson the Passion of the Christ is meant to be factual. However if you look through this short clip you will learn that Christ has an injured right eye throughout. Also, when Christ is visited by the Angel in the garden, Mel has exchanged this with a visit from satan instead. Satan is also seen holding what is described as the Anti-Christ. It's very frightening I think, but struck me that the Madeleine abduction and constant reminders in the media, together with the very public alert to the child's right eye could be announcing the coming of the Anti-Christ.

Part 4

http://img.youtube.com/vi/49tIe3VlwVo/default.jpg
YouTube - The AntiChrist Dajjal will be a Reptilian Shapeshifter p 5 (http://www.youtube.com/v/49tIe3VlwVo)

[ethanmya]

I am not sure if this clip has any relevance to the Madeleine case but is seems so coincidental. This film by Mel Gibson the Passion of the Christ is meant to be factual. However if you look through this short clip you will learn that Christ has an injured right eye throughout. Also, when Christ is visited by the Angel in the garden, Mel has exchanged this with a visit from satan instead. Satan is also seen holding what is described as the Anti-Christ. It's very frightening I think, but struck me that the Madeleine abduction and constant reminders in the media, together with the very public alert to the child's right eye could be announcing the coming of the Anti-Christ.

Part 4

http://img.youtube.com/vi/49tIe3VlwVo/default.jpg
YouTube - The AntiChrist Dajjal will be a Reptilian Shapeshifter p 5 (http://www.youtube.com/v/49tIe3VlwVo)

That video is unbelivable. Its as though we are definatly being prepared for the coming of the antichrist in many ways. I just feel sorry for the people who are so ignorant to all of this information...

[magicmerlin]

Very interesting about the eye references. As I posed the other day, Murat only has one real eye, the other is a glass RIGHT eye! And if you think that these people like to shower us with symbolism and word -play, notice how the references to the 'eye-witnesses' who are sure it was Murat they saw because of his very distinctive Right Eye. Some posters think that this is all coincidence, but how convenient that we have Maddy and Murat both with eye defects, undeniable links to masonic groups, the location being where it is/its name, the pope and all the connections to various big names. Is it also just coincidence that the dollar has the capstone and the all seeing eye? I feel immensely for anyone whose child has been abducted - but has this made it on the TV and media.....probably not, but why not? Doesn't take a genius to answer that one.

[tintin]

I am not sure if this clip has any relevance to the Madeleine case but is seems so coincidental. This film by Mel Gibson the Passion of the Christ is meant to be factual. However if you look through this short clip you will learn that Christ has an injured right eye throughout. Also, when Christ is visited by the Angel in the garden, Mel has exchanged this with a visit from satan instead. Satan is also seen holding what is described as the Anti-Christ. It's very frightening I think, but struck me that the Madeleine abduction and constant reminders in the media, together with the very public alert to the child's right eye could be announcing the coming of the Anti-Christ.

Part 4

http://img.youtube.com/vi/49tIe3VlwVo/default.jpg
YouTube - The AntiChrist Dajjal will be a Reptilian Shapeshifter p 5 (http://www.youtube.com/v/49tIe3VlwVo)

Very interesting video.

Yep, it's all about the antichrist.
First of all it's JAMES CAVIEZEL. That's a JC.

The anti christ is Alexander of Orange.
He is from Holland, TULIP country.

James Caviezel is
from MOUNT VERNON.
Mount Vernon known for it's TULIP festival.

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/598308/2/istockphoto_598308_mt_vernon_tulip_festival.jpg

Tulips and a windmill.
Holland and MOUNT VERNON.
The father of THE KING was VERNON.
ELVIS and VERNON PRESLEY.
Elvis who had a TWIN BROTHER who died at birth...
Christ and Anti-Christ.

The manager of
Elvs, the KING was
DUTCH.

James Caviezel and Vernon...
Caviezel is the same sound as CATWEAZLE

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ab/Catweazle_-_Richard_Carpenter_-_Puffin_book_cover.jpg

and the "father" of
CATWEAZLE is a CARPENTER
just like the father
of jesus...

And who was the mother of JESUS in the movie?

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/newmarket/the_passion_of_the_christ/maia_morgenstern/christ.jpg

Maia morgenstern. (Morning star).
born FIRST OF MAY.
BELTANE. Holy Illuminati day.

The mother of JESUS was

LUCIFER.

Venus or LUCIFER is the MORNING star.
Maia Morgenstern. And Morgenstern is GERMAN.
the antichrist is from GERMAN BLOODLINE.
And they celebrate DUTCH queensday on BELTANE (30 April)

And a MM agaim. the 13th satanic bloodline.

Jesus is about FORGIVENESS.
The antichrist is about REVENGE.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00006ADFM.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

"Jesus" Caviezel as CHRISTO.
who is nothing but REVENGE


http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0783241909.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

James Caviezel in 1999 (666)
in ride with the DEVIL

All kinds of little jokes to make a fool of CHRIST and christians.

[phildee3]

All kinds of little jokes to make a fool of CHRIST and christians.

Oh, tintin.

When are you going to see that you make a fool of yourself?

You are Christ!!


...can we get back on topic now??

[tintin]

Oh, tintin.

When are you going to see that you make a fool of yourself?

You are Christ!!


...can we get back on topic now??

Hi PHildee, Little SWINDLER

I am not impressed by your lttle tragedies.
Please tell them everywhere.
I am not buying them.

[phildee3]

I am not impressed by your lttle tragedies.


Tragedy?
What do you know of "tragedy"??

What is tragedy?
I thought it was a performance art form invented by Homer.

Was the Mystery of Golgotha a tragedy??

Was Madeline's fate a tragedy - if she was taken by those who invested a great deal of time and money into her existance, and then treated her as one would any valuable asset - making her as happy and cared for as possible?

Kate and Gerry's reaction indicates that this was the case.

[tintin]

Tragedy?
What do you know of "tragedy"??

What is tragedy?
I thought it was a performance art form invented by Homer.

Was the Mystery of Golgotha a tragedy??

Was Madeline's fate a tragedy - if she was taken by those who invested a great deal of time and money into her existance, and then treated her as one would any valuable asset - making her as happy and cared for as possible?

Kate and Gerry's reaction indicates that this was the case.

Tragedy, tragedy....
What do I know of tragedies?
Well, a lot.

We had a major tragedy last year.
I lost a personal friend.
Luciano Pavarotti died, and I am proud to say he was my best friend.

Have you ever drank a glass of Chianti Classico with Pavarotti?
No, I guess not, and you know nothing about tragedies
if you haven't met Lucca (Only his best friends may call him Lucca).

Oh,how i miss those italian nights in Sienna, nothing can beat that.
All your silly talks about the illumies, who cares.

The aria from Gianluca Maranzanelli's masterpiece, ONE NIGHT IN
SAN SIRO, when Ajax beat AC Milan, unforgettable.
(especially that second goal from Cruyff).

So don't start about tragedies with me my friend!
But since i am in a good mood today I will tell you
a little secret.

Lucca loved english breakfast!
No kidding. Yeah, agree, ubelievable but true!
Bacon and eggs. No more, no less.

Well there you have it.
I am glad I have told it. Now I hope to get on with life again.
But, as you know, every cloud has a silver lining.
And the price of Silver is rising so my
clouds become more valuable every day.

Molto grazie e salute!

[phildee3]

Have you ever drank a glass of Chianti Classico with Pavarotti?

No.
Did you ever drink coffee with Keith Moon?
I did.

So what?
Neither of these men's passing was a tragedy, although many would say that Keth's was more of one - being more sudden, in good health, younger, etc.

I disagree.

A tragedy, according to the man who defined the word - and whose definition has stood for millenia - must involve irony.
That is - the victim, unwittingly, causes his/her own demise.

Kate McCann's story is tragic.
Gerry's is not.

[helloperator]

But it's just a word...if someone walked up to me and said that from now on they intend to use the word healthy to mean cleaning a window...I wouldnt mind

[phildee3]

But it's just a word...if someone walked up to me and said that from now on they intend to use the word healthy to mean cleaning a window...I wouldnt mind

disenchantment sometimes bullying tonight wanted deliniated forgery in knickers.

This is important information, please respond.
(I just changed the meaning of all the words.
Maybe it says "I promise you 50000 pounds")

Can we get back on topic now?

[titan]

Madeleines conception method is perhaps a big secret. This was no random abduction. It had to specifically be Madeleine.

An objective is still to be reached. She will turn up - probably in a contrived manner - but she will come home.

[majic]

A huge thread, a lot to read here and no doubt over time I will get through it. I don't think she will turn up alive. I'm quite cold and clinical about these things suffice to say that of course the best result is for her to be found alive and unharmed, however I just don't see it happening.

The parents are suspects for a reason, I can only assume there is some evidence to suggest that they have done away with the poor child.

[sir nob jerkoff]

There is a forum at the Mirror forums specifically about the Madeleine McCann case. There are some very intelligent, insightful posters there and lots of info. Here is a link: http://forums.mirror.co.uk/viewforum.php?f=31

[majic]

I am advised that the Mirror forum is the biggest one on the internet discussing the McCann case. As to whether that is true I couldn't say.

[sir nob jerkoff]

I haven't read through all the posts as there are too many.
Earlier posts mentioned Maddie's right eye, asking what is wrong with her eye.
Its very very simple. No conspiracy here.
I have a son and his eye is like this. The black on the eye (the pupil) looks like it has run and is misshapen, it is not. No one's eyes are all uniform in colour, there are variations within it - look in the mirror.
His eyes are blue. There is a dark pigment in the blue of the iris near to the pupil, so it gives the appearance that the pupil is misshapen. If it were not close to the pupil it wouldn't be noticed.
So its just that, dark pigment in the colour of the eye (iris) so close to the pupil that it makes it looks disfigured, when it is not.
:);)


Actually, MM has/d a coloboma which is a hole in the structure of the eye, in her case, the iris.

[sir nob jerkoff]

I am advised that the Mirror forum is the biggest one on the internet discussing the McCann case. As to whether that is true I couldn't say.

I believe it is.

[phildee3]

Madeleines conception method is perhaps a big secret. This was no random abduction. It had to specifically be Madeleine.

An objective is still to be reached. She will turn up - probably in a contrived manner - but she will come home.

What is your source for this information?
Mine totally contradicts this; -
the objective was reached four days after the abduction -
The Madeline (Magdalene) sacrafice.

[frida]

I looked at a Mirror article (3/1) about Madeleine, it said that a family may have seen her abducted and could provide evidence in the search for the missing four year old. Correct me if I am wrong but when anybody goes missing, child or adult, the age given in articles and on the news is the age they were when they disappeared and Madeleine was three. Ok, I know she was nearly four but in an interview Kate McCann said that they hadn´t know Madeleine since she was four. Does this mean there is widespread belief she is still alive? Just curious.

[cowboy]

Whether the NWO/Elitists had anything to do with the kidnapping itself is irrelevant imo. The mass media coverage about it, and implying how a GPS device would be good for children is enough evidence it's for the microchip. First it might not be an implanted microchip, but a gps in their necklace or something.

[amethyst]

Wonder if the wool will be pulled over everyone's eyes and it will be something completely different........ to show allegiance.....

tattoo maybe? tattoo/chip combo?

kinda jives with the "mark of the beast" mentioned in Revelations.

"What would you like with your burger? Would that be chips or a tattoo today?"

[phildee3]

Whether the NWO/Elitists had anything to do with the kidnapping itself is irrelevant imo.

y'reckon?

What about this? (from "Madeline and the Masons" thread)

http://www.anti-slaverysociety.addr.com/sacrifice.htm


I don't disagree that microchipping is part of the agenda here, but I seriously question if it's the only one.

[cowboy]

y'reckon?

What about this? (from "Madeline and the Masons" thread)

http://www.anti-slaverysociety.addr.com/sacrifice.htm


I don't disagree that microchipping is part of the agenda here, but I seriously question if it's the only one.

It's definitley possible. Elites definitley do kidnap children and torture them. Im not saying she wasn't abducted by the Elites. However, alot more people abduct children. It could of been a pedophile, someone who owned a sex slave ring, satanists unrelated to gov, etc... List goes on.

Either way, I'm saying I don't think it's relevant whether or not she was abducted by the NWO. Either way, The media will spin it as a way to introduce the chip. Was it an inside job? It may or may not have been. To say it was without any evidence isn't rational. And vice versa.

The thing we do know though is - It is being used to push for a GPS device. They didn't need to abduct a child. All they need to do is overblow the story so the public perception is on it, and then offer the solution. (RFID, GPS)

[babe]

Having followed this strange - and increasingly stranger by the minute - 'case of kidnap' (:confused:) all I would dare say for the moment is that:

1. It's smells funnier by the minute & is growing into grotesque proportions

2. this whole media hoola baloo is extremely suspicious

3. there's more than just the 'microchip - black ops' behind this

4. satanic ritual abuse seems to have a ...um... considerable 'role' to play in this as well

5. mind control towards a specific end (depending on the agenda behind the agenda) is already in full swing (see 2)

6. the media seems to have a defty/crafty hand in this as well (why else all that coverage on one of the many? Doesn't make any sense...again, a major give-away somebody's cooking an entirely different spin to what is really happening - the media are Illuminati controlled & they love a juicy 'tragic' story - it raises sales after all, eh?)

7. pope visit - deliberate religious misleading 'input'?

8. too many powers that be (as in; rich & powerful or, in other words, willing bedfellows of the Illuminati) "speaking up" for the McCanns (even in Germany!) getting political - Brown, et al, notwithstanding - smelly, smelly, smelly! :cool:

9. a likely 'case' never to be solved for real (as it's supposed to - keep 'em guessing & coming back for more! The ones behind this laughing all the way to the altar/bank - stupid folk! They've fallen for the con - being distracted by the media blitz while the 'appropriate measures' as a consequence of the 'tragedy' are already being put into place as we speak - micro-/verichip). Most likely with this as one of the main aspects of the real agenda being at the outset of the kidnap plan...

10. she won't return - she's either already dead or under full control of her handlers (mind control programmers) possibly for a 'sleeper' targeted specific goal in the future.

11. fear gets the better of every average citizen... So, whatever the real agenda behind the agenda might've been, it's already working perfectly to plan. The 'operation' was a full "success".

What a start for the New Year!

A-M-E-N (Amenothep)

[sir nob jerkoff]

Having followed this strange - and increasingly stranger by the minute - 'case of kidnap' (:confused:) all I would dare say for the moment is that:

1. It's smells funnier by the minute & is growing into grotesque proportions

2. this whole media hoola baloo is extremely suspicious

3. there's more than just the 'microchip - black ops' behind this

4. satanic ritual abuse seems to have a ...um... considerable 'role' to play in this as well

5. mind control towards a specific end (depending on the agenda behind the agenda) is already in full swing (see 2)

6. the media seems to have a defty/crafty hand in this as well (why else all that coverage on one of the many? Doesn't make any sense...again, a major give-away somebody's cooking an entirely different spin to what is really happening - the media are Illuminati controlled & they love a juicy 'tragic' story - it raises sales after all, eh?)

7. pope visit - deliberate religious misleading 'input'?

8. too many powers that be (as in; rich & powerful or, in other words, willing bedfellows of the Illuminati) "speaking up" for the McCanns (even in Germany!) getting political - Brown, et al, notwithstanding - smelly, smelly, smelly! :cool:

9. a likely 'case' never to be solved for real (as it's supposed to - keep 'em guessing & coming back for more! The ones behind this laughing all the way to the altar/bank - stupid folk! They've fallen for the con - being distracted by the media blitz while the 'appropriate measures' as a consequence of the 'tragedy' are already being put into place as we speak - micro-/verichip). Most likely with this as one of the main aspects of the real agenda being at the outset of the kidnap plan...

10. she won't return - she's either already dead or under full control of her handlers (mind control programmers) possibly for a 'sleeper' targeted specific goal in the future.

11. fear gets the better of every average citizen... So, whatever the real agenda behind the agenda might've been, it's already working perfectly to plan. The 'operation' was a full "success".

What a start for the New Year!

A-M-E-N (Amenothep)

Yes. There is an uneasy sense that this whole disturbing debacle could be orchestrated entirely for the benefit of us - the viewing public. It's like a crap, low budget BBC drama escaped from the realms of fiction into the real world. Just as 9-11 with it's swarthy, box cutter waving terrorists was like a crap, 1980's B-movie had escaped from Hollywood into reality. The propaganda machines have trained us well! A large percentage can no longer distinguish fiction from reality.

[octopusrex]

Do any of you have any clue how many kids go a missing every day in the world?

[mariag]

Do any of you have any clue how many kids go a missing every day in the world?

According the FBI’s National Crime Information Center (NCIC)

* 85% to 90% of the 876,213 persons reported missing to America’s law enforcement agencies in 2000 were juveniles (persons under 18 years of age). That means that 2,100 times per day parents or primary care givers felt the disappearance was serious enough to call law enforcement.
* 152,265 of the persons reported missing in 2000 were categorized as either endangered or involuntary.
* The number of missing persons reported to law enforcement has increased from 154, 341 in 1982 to 876,213 in 2000. That is an increase of 468%.


When it comes to the rest of the world I do not know but I figure it would be more then these numbers

[babe]

I know from an insider's source that the 'purpose' of kidnapping children (whether deliberatly or randomly) has very often to do with a deliberate agenda behind it - as is the case in the States (I reside in Europe though). The teenagers of the Columbine High School shooting are thought to have been sleepers with either the programming having been achieved via veri-/microchip implantation or, otherwise via specific targeting through ELF (which just proves that these guys are always 10 steps of the 'common folk') and other means of programming of an even more sinister level/nature. I intuit that, in any case, those 'operating the button' choose their victims sometimes deliberately, sometimes at random (depending on the individual's history - particularly so-called 'troubled' kids/adults).

Most of the targets don't know diddly squat what's happening - however, it's interesting to note that those that end up 'fulfilling the end purpose of the agenda' have - quite often - a time/space frame where they cannot remember where they were at a specific time - which is most likely the time the micro-verichip has been implanted.

Timothy McVeigh of Oklahoma bombing notoriety is thought to have had a microchip implanted 6 months prior to the detonation having been executed. The ultimate brilliance is that media builds up the hype where the one who could jeopardise the 'plan' gets executed or end up destroying themselves as has been the case with the majority of all the high school shootings that have taken place.

And, make no mistake, this is no longer 'just limited' to the US. As the case in Finland & over the last few years, increasingly in Germany have shown, it's already 'swapping' over the big pond. Marc Dutroux in Belgium was the 'perfect scape goat' for all the big shots of the Belgian (& beyond) gov't/political hacks. There plenty of little girls being sacrificed for the satanic cult Dutroux was providing these people with & for.

Fear & the feeding of it (the media's "job"), keep creating a vicious circle that 'prepares' the "cattle" (us) to be more "ready & willing" to be 'brandmarked' (Rothschild/Rockefeller, et al at your disposal, yes, thank you very much) to give us a false sense of 'security'. At the moment it's "sold" to the daft & wanna-be 'trendy, cool "in-crowd"' of clubbers in Spain (already 'en vogue' about 2/3 years ago) as well as in Holland to get 'VIP' access to their favourite hang-out/watering hole/prowling & picking up spot.

Which just goes to show that "it's all in the marketing!". Doesn't matter whether the 'product' is labelled "fashionable" or "Madeleine" (crass but that's how sick these people are). The end result is the same, isn't it? Some take the high road (silly clubbers!) and some take the low road.

It's important to be able to think like the goonies (just as a good crime investigator needs to be able to get into a criminal's/serial killer's "skin/head") to understand where they're coming from, what their most likely next step will be & what is most likely the real agenda - which should never be underestimated.

The end goal of the veri-/microchip, abduction of toddlers/children & adults is geared towards making us the cattle the Illuminati already perceives us to be. The proof in the pudding being the increasing obsession with all kinds of distractions - be it Madeleine, food (weight issues/obesity), sports til you drop, trying to imitate talent (American Idol, etc) & most notably 'being famous', running with the mob (just trigger them folk & you got them by the ninnies!).

No wonder those behind the throne (the Wizard of [O]zzzzz, anyone?) are laughing their heads off at the predictability of the masses - it just confirms what has been proven over the millenia. That's why we're considered "disposable cattle" & thus we are treated as such if we don't stay awake.

So get yourself some guarana. Coffee ain't gonna be strong enough no more. It's about friggin time to get to grips with the diabolical intention of their machinations, even if they are brilliant in their execution.

The micro-verichip is already in perfect place. And, it's only the first step (but by far not the only one - ELF & HAARP, artificially created natural disasters, GM food) to 'leading us' to the slaughter house...

And so, these abductions make total sense in these people's heads/minds - can't start early enough, right? Get 'em while they're still young!

The technology that the average 'common' folk doesn't get to see these days is, as far as I know from the above source as well as from others I have had the great fortune to meet & hang out with, already 50-100 years ahead.

Hey, if Tesla in the late 19th century was that far ahead (having found the source to free energy), I'd be very surprised that it stopped there. Hardly.

Oh, BTW, I forgot to mention that this is my 2nd post. So I greet all my fellow travellers in this strange & crazy dimension we live in that constantly is in flux...:)

[sir nob jerkoff]

Oh, BTW, I forgot to mention that this is my 2nd post. So I greet all my fellow travellers in this strange & crazy dimension we live in that constantly is in flux...:)


Good posts, Babe. This is my 11th post, so i'll take it upon myself to welcome both of us to the Icke forums.;)

[kweli]

Good posts, Babe. This is my 11th post, so i'll take it upon myself to welcome both of us to the Icke forums.;)

Yeah, cool posts guys and a big WELCOME from me :)

[sir nob jerkoff]

Thanks Kweli. :)