Madeline Sacrafice

[emtec]

why post something like that???


Why not?

[illuminotti]

i was refering to someones post who has been removed

[emtec]

You mean my post about someone from here being had up?

[illuminotti]

yes

[emtec]

Then i ask again why not post it?

[wideawake]

:( I had a vision of a sataniic 5 pointed star, so what you are saying seems to tie in with my visions:( I now think she has been taken by boat and I also have malta and gibralta and dont know why:confused: I also had an electrical fence which could mean she is in some kind of secure site...a powerstation or something..Could I be right? ho hum...

[splinterg]

Then i ask again why not post it?

What did you say?

[illuminotti]

he made a nasty allegation towards hagbard celine,

[emtec]

Allegation, not at all Celine has posted what i did on the web himself. Unless Hagbard is a liar and im not saying he is thats not allegation its fact.

[illuminotti]

it was actually a custody dispute, which he won

[emtec]

LOL yeah ok that's not what hes posted elsewhere.

[julieray]

I have been reading up on a site called Illuminati News and got carried away with the Satanic Bloodlines. Apparently any name with Mac or Mc is a Satanic bloodline, so it may be that she is indeed more special than we think.

I am starting to believe that she is "the chosen one" somehow. I can't quite put my finger on it, but I have been reading up and getting redirected in other directions but, Freemasonary, Knights Templar, Knights Hospitallers - who incidentally originate from Malta, Royals and Aristocracy are all supposed to be part of the Illuminati who are striving for a New World Order. My attention was also drawn to the underground bases and caverns etc., one of which was yet again Malta where there were all these sightings. There are alien types who also live under the earth, an opening of which is also in Malta. Could it be that she has some sort of alien DNA?? I believe that she was the product of IVF treatment, but that doesn't mean that Gerry and Kate's eggs and sperm were necessarily used, if indeed they were even aware. Matthew James was also of the opinion that whoever had taken her had been watching her all her life and discretely looking at her medical records and keeping track of her, he also made mention that another man may be directly decended to her. Finally, he made mention that Madeleine holds some sort of Title.

Based on all this, I do feel, for whatever reason, that this little girl is definitely no ordinary child. She is special and as Matthew James said once more, this child's life will never be the same again and it most certainly won't. When she is found, the whole world will be rejoicing and will want to know about her and her progress. It will be interesting to see what profession she eventually goes into.

Whilst I am sure this will have a happy ending and justice seen to be done, will we ever truly know the real truth behind all this - I fear we may very well be talking about it for decades to come.

I do hope though that someone somewhere out there who has influence is not one of the Illuminati who genuinely digs deep to expose all this, because whatever we all think, hundreds and hundreds of children are going missing, mysteriously and never found and I for one would love to know why.

[cheeb]

With that way of thinking, be very careful when you go to
Scotland,
Or
Ireland

[julieray]

It is only what I have read. I do not claim to be stating the truth, just trying to make some sort of sense of it all. I may be way off the mark, and not every Mc or Mac would necessarily be linked anyway. I am entitled to air a view, am I not or has that privilage been removed as well??

[cheeb]

Sorry julie didnt mean to offend you
But I like to put it into a bit of
Perspective,
3000 children die everyday in Africa,
Of malnutrition,disease and warfare,
This could be solved, right now,
If the millatary/socio geopolitical elite
mended their ways,
it is acheivable,
Madeline is a worry'
but I blame the parents,
Don't have kids,
If you cant keep an eye on them 24/7
poe
pttp

[richmick]

I have been reading up on a site called Illuminati News and got carried away with the Satanic Bloodlines. Apparently any name with Mac or Mc is a Satanic bloodline, so it may be that she is indeed more special than we think.

I am starting to believe that she is "the chosen one" somehow. I can't quite put my finger on it, but I have been reading up and getting redirected in other directions but, Freemasonary, Knights Templar, Knights Hospitallers - who incidentally originate from Malta, Royals and Aristocracy are all supposed to be part of the Illuminati who are striving for a New World Order. My attention was also drawn to the underground bases and caverns etc., one of which was yet again Malta where there were all these sightings. There are alien types who also live under the earth, an opening of which is also in Malta. Could it be that she has some sort of alien DNA?? I believe that she was the product of IVF treatment, but that doesn't mean that Gerry and Kate's eggs and sperm were necessarily used, if indeed they were even aware. Matthew James was also of the opinion that whoever had taken her had been watching her all her life and discretely looking at her medical records and keeping track of her, he also made mention that another man may be directly decended to her. Finally, he made mention that Madeleine holds some sort of Title.

Based on all this, I do feel, for whatever reason, that this little girl is definitely no ordinary child. She is special and as Matthew James said once more, this child's life will never be the same again and it most certainly won't. When she is found, the whole world will be rejoicing and will want to know about her and her progress. It will be interesting to see what profession she eventually goes into.

Whilst I am sure this will have a happy ending and justice seen to be done, will we ever truly know the real truth behind all this - I fear we may very well be talking about it for decades to come.

I do hope though that someone somewhere out there who has influence is not one of the Illuminati who genuinely digs deep to expose all this, because whatever we all think, hundreds and hundreds of children are going missing, mysteriously and never found and I for one would love to know why.

Interesting post Julieray. I think Madelienes disappearance has many layers of possibility attatched to it. For one i do believe it is the start of the big push to microchip children. I was reading the comments in the daily mail, when Madeleine went missing, and mothers were saying, we should have our children chipped. They truly believe it is for their own good.

I think Madeleines eye is significant symbol to the illuminatti, and feel she could have been bred for a specific purpose. But obviously this is all just guess work.

But also, the fear vibration that has been created in parents across the world
cannot be good, and if the matrix concept is to be believed, it was well fed.

Ignore the smart arses lol they just like to show off:)

[cheeb]

Interesting post Julieray. I think Madelienes disappearance has many layers of possibility attatched to it. For one i do believe it is the start of the big push to microchip children. I was reading the comments in the daily mail, when Madeleine went missing, and mothers were saying, we should have our children chipped. They truly believe it is for their own good.

I think Madeleines eye is significant symbol to the illuminatti, and feel she could have been bred for a specific purpose. But obviously this is all just guess work.

But also, the fear vibration that has been created in parents across the world
cannot be good, and if the matrix concept is to be believed, it was well fed.

Ignore the smart arses lol they just like to show off:)


yes we just like to display ouf tail feathers.
while the world around us
starves'
dies of preventable diseases
and steps on British made smartbombs and mines,
poe
pttp

[richmick]

yes we just like to display ouf tail feathers.
while the world around us
starves'
dies of preventable diseases
and steps on British made smartbombs and mines,
poe
pttp


I understand what you ar saying, but the post was about the madeleine case.

We have all questioned why this case has recieved so much publicity and i believe there are good reasons for this, as i have stated.

I think we are all aware of the state of the world and the discusting situations in the developing countries, and i am sure we all feel the same way about it as you.

But the focus on madeleine is unpresidented and i was simply giving my views on why i think it this is so.

peace:)

[the jock rock]

With that way of thinking, be very careful when you go to
Scotland,
Or
Ireland

Mac is APP in Welsh so she had better not go outdoors in Taffy Land eithert.

[julieray]

I too am a parent, but rather than have our children microchipped what about have paedophiles and abusers microchipped instead. At the end of the day, the children are innocent in all this, the paedophiles and abusers are not. Let's push for this if it is all a mass hype to scare us into having that done.

With regard to my comments on Satanic Bloodlines, please go to www.illuminatinews.com - Mc or Mac is not one of the 13 royal bloodlines, but McDonald is one of the satanic bloodlines according to them. Very interesting and thought provoking reading. It does mention however that the British people all originate from Egypt anyway, so one way or another we are all decendant from a satanic bloodline of sorts. If that is the case why are we all not rich and powerful???

Anyway, when all is said and done, you can be a Mc and be good or you can be a Jones and be pure evil, who really knows? I was merely putting together various strings that I had been reading up on and everything was linking to Malta and the Illuminati strangely enough which I thought was very odd.

Anyway, we shall see soon enough, as I have just read that Matthew James thinks that Madeleine will be handed back within either 4-5 days or 4-5 weeks and if the Illuminati did have something to do with it, you can bet your bottom dollar we shall never find out about it!

[splinterg]

I too am a parent, but rather than have our children microchipped what about have paedophiles and abusers microchipped instead. At the end of the day, the children are innocent in all this, the paedophiles and abusers are not. Let's push for this if it is all a mass hype to scare us into having that done.

With regard to my comments on Satanic Bloodlines, please go to www.illuminatinews.com - Mc or Mac is not one of the 13 royal bloodlines, but McDonald is one of the satanic bloodlines according to them. Very interesting and thought provoking reading. It does mention however that the British people all originate from Egypt anyway, so one way or another we are all decendant from a satanic bloodline of sorts. If that is the case why are we all not rich and powerful???

Anyway, when all is said and done, you can be a Mc and be good or you can be a Jones and be pure evil, who really knows? I was merely putting together various strings that I had been reading up on and everything was linking to Malta and the Illuminati strangely enough which I thought was very odd.

Anyway, we shall see soon enough, as I have just read that Matthew James thinks that Madeleine will be handed back within either 4-5 days or 4-5 weeks and if the Illuminati did have something to do with it, you can bet your bottom dollar we shall never find out about it!

Im glad you have said this..I am convinced that Madeleine will serve to bring about a religious rebirth of such proportions people will be drawn to an event in belief of a new coming or an enlightened mind..She is definitley special compaired to all the other kids to go disappear because they never had the spotlight on them that Madeleine has received. I think we are all being put in line and are awaiting our entry into an understanding that we at the moment cant see..but when finally the peoples wake from their clouded minds it will be too late..Dont fall for this M&M

Expect to see the death of Christianity an the rebirth of Catholic Christ as the one Christian God..Bloody Republicans

Chipping the Dirt Bags would be a superb idea..but it isnt the Peado's that they want to keep an eye on though is it..? I mean round our way we have a Peado that sits outside schools taking pictures from his white van and yet no one can do anything..although vigilante groups are ready to act..The whereabouts of this sick indiviual are known all the time as it is the only way to protect our children round this way..In short he is protected by the Authorities..lol..but not no more..we have to take charge of our responsibilties and protection..Police are just hell bent in pulling over people for nothing but a chat and dont work the streets like they should..Dirty pigs and the Peado's too working for each other

[julieray]

I do agree in part, but the real problem as you have stated is far up the heirachy, the police and indeed the Court system are tied to merely applying the law in existence. They basically can't enforce what is not there. Pressure on a mass scale should be the order of the day on this subject without a shadow of a doubt and if the elite masses don't like it, they will have to suffer the consequences. It is definitely something that will require a united front. There are so many people disgruntled behind the scenes but no-one really doing anything constructive.

I truly hope that Gordon Brown goes into this post with his eyes wide open and stays true, like he has promised to serve the people and does not become another puppet playing the tune of the Illuminati. I am sure we will see soon enough. How anyone can sell their soul down the river, for just one lifetime of power and wealth is clearly not as intelligent as they claim.

I am glad to be a normal, poor and hardworking individual safe in the knowledge that my existence is eternally guaranteed.

Anyway, back to Madeleine, I think there is definitely something fundamentally special about her, she was destined to become something great and I hope she chooses to follow her heart and do good in the world. Apart of me definitely feels disappointed though that this family had to be Catholic - I am definitely of the view that this religion is possibly the most corrupt there is with the truth and knowledge being deliberately hidden from their followers. When you see the wealth and power that is in the Vatican and then see the paupers who worship the Pope and hang off every word he says (who incidentally is only another human being like anyone else) it does make me angry that here again, with so much power could come so much good, but of course it will never happen, it is just another way of controlling the masses.

My only other hope is that through the discovery of Madeleine, the Church can be exposed in some way which would obviously be on a world wide scale with very little they could do about it. Now that would be interesting! In fact BriansPrediction.com on a Portugese missing boy has mentioned that the Catholic Church and the Police are behind the mass of missing children out there. Let us hope that out of such a very bad situation, something absolutely wonderful comes from this. True enlightenment!!

[emerald]

A chain of weaknesses indeed around Madeleine's case. Some say, according to their dreams and visions that she is alive (and well), but my feeling - sorry to say that - is that she was killed shortly after she was "kidnapped". And her so-called parents and for those who feel pity for them, wouldn't it be better to wake up people and smell the stinking truth than shed tears and feel pity for the wrong persons?

[julieray]

Under normal circumstances I would be implied to agree with you and say that she would have been abused and murdered but something is definitely striking about this case, something unlike any other and this is why I feel that she simply must be found alive, there can be no other outcome. She is special, and I don't mean that all the other children are not special, because of course they are. What I mean to say is that she has been chosen in some way, there is something far more significant here than just Madeleine, a little girl going missing, there is something fundamentally massive on a world wide scale - but what and who is behind it all and why??? So many unanswered questions, it is all so frustrating.

There is not just one or two people behind all this, there surely must be many people but why? Are they just sick individuals or would we do the same thing if we were burdened with the knowledge they have?? It hurts my brain to try and rationalise it all.

[splinterg]

I have a feeling she may well be found on the 7th of next month,hopefully alive....as this 7/7/7 thing could well be of significance to the loomys

Madeleine would of been missing 66 days

[illuminotti]

why all the secrecy orders? especially on the 2 arrested. Does anyone think it could have anything to do with ivf, these 2 arrested not only trafficked children, but eggs and sperm too. what the hell is going on?

[julieray]

I have just checked again on Matthew James and he definitely thinks there is an Occult link, that she was taken for a purpose and she will be returned to serve a purpose. That her parents do not know where she is, all that they have been told is that she will be safe and will come to no harm and she will be returned to them. The mind boggles ever more.

It is almost as though she has been the chosen one to highlight the plight of either missing or abducted children and that one day she may rise to great heights in this area, but even that just doesn't seem to make sense.

Whatever the reasons behind all this, one thing is for sure, that Matthew James is absolutely right when he says that at the top most levels corruption exists.

[synergy777]

they should chip all offenders of sex crimes rapistis, nonces. the reason they get the easy treatment, well its like the judge said (she looked 16, when she was 10), they are all closet nonces themselves. ffs, the church, the house of god apparently, did what? did give they shop the nonce priests to the police, nope, they moved them to different parish, they covered it up. where was the civil rights/liberty, that sami chakkbatthi, whatever her name is, where was the high profile/public oppostion to the church, where was the press? where was teh public outcry, yep, spineless clones .

this is why i have no respect at all for any authority/general public, if the most holy, good are helping nonces, the people are turning a blind eye, then fuck the system and its slaves. if they can't add shit up, then they need to educate themselves. everybody knows about the priests, the cover ups, but no one has the courage, compassion love for the victims, they all are fake, not real. you can't trust the public, they support a nonce church, the synagogue of satan. why do they support the church and its doctrine, why, it elevates them, and people love flattery. however the church flatters to deceive.

then all display a pious and fashionable concern, while its the newstory of the day, but after its paris hilton time. look at maddie, who gives a shit now, on the news, its about car bombs, which coming from an outfit thats hijacked, trained pilots, and yet can't make rudimentary bombs. its all theatre, bread and circus for the useless eaters/sheep. any intelligent person, goes insane due to the absurdity of life, and the tyrannical majority you have to endure.

http://www.reflectionsinthenight.com./

sickening, harrowing, this should stop all the world is an illusion, suffering is no illusion. lesser reality/lower dimension for sure, illusion, none whatsoever.

[julieray]

I Absolutely agree with you, why are people so blind to what is right infront of them. The trouble is when people are above the law, which they clearly are, what hope is there for any of us to try and fight against us. I was reading a site called IlluminatiNews.com and this is fantastic reading, but he has stated that no-one can fight against the Illuminati, they are too powerful because we let them get there, or we failed to stop it. Now the only thing we can do is to make a conscious decision not to come back to earth once we die. That is it, that is the only thing to do. Where is the justice to us lot right here, right now??? Sorry gone off on a tangent.

According to Matthew, Madeleine wil be returned either between 4-5 days or 4-5 weeks, on an ordinary day on common land so as not to point the fingure at those who had her - ever more puzzling.

[splinterg]

I Absolutely agree with you, why are people so blind to what is right infront of them. The trouble is when people are above the law, which they clearly are, what hope is there for any of us to try and fight against us. I was reading a site called IlluminatiNews.com and this is fantastic reading, but he has stated that no-one can fight against the Illuminati, they are too powerful because we let them get there, or we failed to stop it. Now the only thing we can do is to make a conscious decision not to come back to earth once we die. That is it, that is the only thing to do. Where is the justice to us lot right here, right now??? Sorry gone off on a tangent.

According to Matthew, Madeleine wil be returned either between 4-5 days or 4-5 weeks, on an ordinary day on common land so as not to point the fingure at those who had her - ever more puzzling.

The Illuminati can be brought to their knees..and they will pay for all the grief they have hidden this world under..7-7-07..with a hunch the Millenium Stadium or the Millenium Dome will be the place of central
attraction..I feel this is where she is..or where she will appear from

Of importance to could be the London Eye..though MM is more striking and obvious

Many people in here I agree with but there have been a lot of debunkers on this forum..they stand out loud an clear like a Gordon Brown trying to play the pretend game very badly

[whitelightrabbit]

i cant believe this story is bigger than diana in the uk... the diana story was so bloody drawn out in canada, i thought it would never end.

[mcmenek1]

Madeleine would of been missing 66 days

That is a great observation splinterg........so on the 7/7/7 Madeleine will have been missing exactly 66 days......I think this is really ominous........the vibration of 66 is a male vibration that "The Powers That Be" love to promote at the expense of the female vibration..... Madeleine’s surname is McCann which has the female vibration of 3........the word Serpent has a vibration of 7.......is Madeleine going to be sacrificed to the Serpent (Reptile) on the 7/7/7.......take into account all the other energy harvesting events that will be taking place that day around the world.......I get the feeling that everything has been planed for the 7/7/7 including Madeleine's disappearance.......I think we are going to find out about Madeleine’s fate on that day...........

I hope that I'm wrong about this and Madeleine is found safe and well I really do..........

Love
&
Peace

[zircon]

I feel that it is strange how after the visits to the Pope of first the parents, and then Tony Blair, that the media circus went very quiet - their interest in the arrests and in speculation about the Italian and Portuguese couple who were trying to extort money was very muted and didn't bring up any comments. That was during the strong deceptive influence of the neptune-venus/saturn - pluto tie-up, suggesting powerful subterfuges at work. 777 is certainly important! But I agree with a previous comment that maybe an ordinary day on common ground is one that they will choose, and like everyone really hope that could be any time soon after the venus/neptune opposition. I think now that we may have to wait until the end of July for the official "explanation" to things to be forced out into the light.

[julieray]

Yes, there is definitely something extremely significant and occult linked. Sorry to refer to Matthew James once more but he posted recently;

"I am able to sense a fantastic love of life coming from Maddy. It is in these moments I know Maddy is very much alive.

But then that insight is gone once more. Some awareness senses my presence and is able to regenerate that veil. My insights are then failing me again and I perceive the blank wall once more."

Here is a prime example of magical powers surrounding Madeleine and keeping her whereabouts "invisible" to those with powers of Remote Viewings and other psychic powers. Obviously someone very powerful indeed is with her if they can be aware, in an instant of prying eyes, to then cover the veil once more.

I am so fascinated with this case, with what is really happening, I just know we will never get to the bottom of it, no doubt it will be conveniently covered up and the truth swept under the carpet of deceit. How annoying!!

[dark86]

why has leaving your toddlers alone and then going out drinking 400m away not been mentioned by the media once.

[indigo]

This case gets stranger by the minute.

published in Sol, on June 30, 2007
an article by Felicia Cabrita and Margarida Davim

Madeleine Case

Pact of Silence

Madeleine’s parents and the friends with whom they spent their holidays in PDL are suspects in the inquiry. There are contradictory versions about the night of the kidnapping, and an assumed pact of silence in the group

The beginning of June is flowing in a strange way in the Algarve. A chilly wind and overhead clouds help to fill the auditorium of Lagos, where a solidarity concert is being held for the missing english girl. It’s been a month since Madeleine McCann vanished without a trace.

A few kilometres from Lagos, in the Ocean Club resort at Praia da Luz, the faint illumination further densifies the climate. At the reception, which leads to the Tapas restaurant, there is nobody. Getting inside is easy.

A portuguese waiter, but with a british ‘behaviour’, strikes the first blow on the journalist’s plan: “We only serve dinner to the club’s clients”. “What about a drink?”. He says yes.

It’s 9.30 p.m. If we were to believe the several members of the McCann’s holiday group, and after several mismatching versions, at this time Madeleine was being carried out of her apartment by a dark-haired man, who would be around 35 years old.

From the same table where the group of nine had dinner on that evening, one tries, in vain, to observe the apartment’s front – a ground floor apartment that faces the restaurant. A linoleum screen on the side of Tapas and the corridor of bushes that follows the limits of the apartment’s back yards prevents any vigilance to that level.

The image of Madeleine – big blue, questioning eyes and an innocent smile, fixed on the photographic films – is always present. It doesn’t leave the conversations of whom passes by. One remembers the words that the mother, Kate Healy, is supposed to have said to a friend (and that the husband, Gerry McCann, did not know): “I had a bad premonition about my children, when I found out the Ocean Club had no baby listening service”.

The choice of Algarve as a holiday destination would come to change their lives. Everything was arranged with three other couples, with whom they used to travel. Some of them had recently been to Greece, with their children, and the Mark Warner agency, the same that prepared their trip to the Algarve, had done their itinerary for the islands. According to their reports, the hotel where they stayed had a baby listening service – a service that is assured by four or five members of staff who would control the children while the adults dined, by listening through doors and windows to confirm that everything inside was quiet.

At the Tapas bar, from bartenders to staff from the Kid Club, criticism is whispered: “We have a creche where they left their children for most part of the day, where they could be until 11.30 p.m. without spending another Euro. They could also have used our baby-sitters, who stay with the children in their rooms until 1 p.m. In this case, they would have to pay an extra fee, but these people looked like they could afford it”, an employee comments, concluding that “this was a very strange group, that never stayed with their children”.

The children’s routine

The story of Madeleine looks like a tangled ball of wool. In the last days of April, Kate and Gerry, both 39 and doctors, arrive with their friends in Praia da Luz. The weather is not very good, but the group makes the best of it. The children seem to exist outside of the adults’ world. In the morning, Kate would take Madeleine, almost 4, and the 2-year old twins, to the Kid Club. The other couples in the group did the same. While the little ones entertained themselves with collages and paintings, the group divides itself between tennis and jogging until lunchtime. In the creche, the girl’s picture is taken: “She was shy and had some difficulty in adapting to the group. She always stayed close to the english children she already knew”.

It is at lunchtime that the families socialize a bit. After a short nap, the children go back to the Kid Club, while the parents use the activities that the club offers. They only get to meet again in the late afternoon, when the children’s dinner is served. Before 8 p.m., Madeleine and her siblings, who seem to function like a clock, are already asleep. Half an hour later, the group of friends meets at Tapas. The staff remember that they only leave at midnight: “They were very lively and drank a bit too much. I didn’t even realize they had children, because I never saw them around”.

Mathew Oldfield, one of the elements of the group, is back in England. He reacts with surprise upon the contact of Sol, but he does not avoid the conversation: “We drank. We were on holidays. So what?”.

And thus the days followed one upon another, at the Ocean Club. The holiday week is almost over and the group’s spirit does not change. Nobody had noticed until then, how the children were kept at a distance.

The most reliable way to undrestand what happened on May 3, when Madeleine disappeared, is to analyze the various versions that emerged.

It would have been 10 p.m. when Kate decided to check the children at the apartment. This is the only moment in the story that gathers consensus. Madeleine had vanished from her bedroom and the twins were sleeping like nothing had happened. The mother was back at the restaurant in one leap. She was disoriented.

PJ called two hours later

In seconds, the resort is in turmoil. The group’s four men and the club’s employees check every corner. They seem to be oblivious of the essential: to call the authorities. GNR is the first to arrive at the scene, but the news only reach Policia Judiciaria (PJ) more than two hours later. The first explanations arise. Where were the parents when the child disappeared? Gerry explains that, inspired in the scheme that some of the friends had used on their holidays in Greece, the nine members of the group took turns in checking on the children with some regularity.

This is the beginning of a story that will change in many chapters. Gerry starts by saying that he first left the table to check on the children around 9.05 p.m. When he entered the apartment the children were fine, he just noticed that the door to their bedroom was partially open. He looked at the window, which was closed, just as the shutters, and relaxed.

Ten minutes later, his friend Jane Tanner, who went around the apartments, crossed ways with a dark-haired man who was walking in the opposite direction, carrying a child. She didn’t make any connections either.

A few minutes later, Mathew Oldfield enters the room, sees the McCann children fast asleep, and notices nothing out of the ordinary. It is at 10 p.m. that Maddie’s mother discovers her daughter has disappeared. The window was wide open and the shutters were up.

To GNR, who is in the area with sniffer dogs to search for the child, this is a highly unlikely scenario. One of the military assures: “This is an extremely silent area, where there are practically no passing cars. That shutter was very difficult to lift from the outside, and would have made a lot of noise. It would have been a lot easier to use the door, but there were no signs of a break-in”.

This was just one of the reasons why the group became suspicious in the eyes of the investigators. Russell O’Brien, Jane Tanner’s husband, is already back in England, but he knows he could be summoned back to Portugal for a deposition anytime. Over the phone with Sol, he tries to keep his british phlegm: “It is normal that we are suspects, and the DNA test is a consequence thereof. We were the closest people involved”.

The conversation always comes back to the same issue: the night of the disappearance. The account of that last dinner has disparate versions among the group’s members. Some swear that someone left the table every half hour to check on the kids; other reduce that time to half of it. Some say control is made window by window; others say the adults entered each other’s apartments.

One of the employees that was on duty that evening does not remember a lot of movement: “I only remember a tall, grey-haired man getting up once from the table”. It was Russell, who, two days earlier, also had attended dinner.

An aerobic instructor from the resort entertains the dinner guests at Tapas with a ‘Quiz’. At 9.30 p.m. the game ends, and Gerry invites her to their table, where she stays for half an hour. During that time, as she later confided to friends, nobody left the table, but one of the chairs was vacant. Najova Chekaya refuses to talk to Sol. And Russell, when the questions start to surround him, loses his sympathy: “I have nothing further to tell you. I am not going to dishonor the compromise I assumed with Kate and Gerry. They want to control all infornation that is disclosed”.

Gerry changes his version several times, but he maintains that the door to his children’s room was open. Mat revokes his first statement: when he entered Madeleine’s room, the door was open and there was more light, as if the shutters had been raised. Here starts to develop the theory that there was already someone inside the apartment. Which reinforces Jane Tanner’s version (that she saw a man carrying a child).

Only Jane saw the man carrying a child

But there is a witness whose deposition contradicts this theory. Jeremy Wilkins – a tv producer who had met Maddie’s father during their holidays and used to play tennis with him – was walking his eight months old son at that time. He met Gerry, who went out through the apartment’s back door after having checked on the children, and the two man exchanged a brief conversation. At that time, if one is to believe the first accounts, Jane would have left Tapas in the direction of the apartment’s main entrance, and would have crossed paths with both of them. “It was a very narrow road and I think it would have been almost impossible to walk by without me taking notice”, Jeremy says, pointing out the fact that he saw no man carrying a child, as Jane states.

But Jane continues to guarantee that, at the top of the street, she saw a man with a child in his arms.

Although the area is scarcely lit, and the situation did not make her suspicious at the time, she describes the beige trousers, the dark thick jacket and the black classic-style shoes in a detailed way. Once again, Jeremy disagrees: “If that happened, I would have likely seen it”.

On the next day, the media circus was fully installed. The first reports are on Sky News first thing in the morning, even before portuguese press takes hold of the story. Journalists and locals dispute the information. Robert Murat, the son of an english mother and a portuguese father, with little luck in business, does not waste the opportunity. He moves from failed businessman into the role of a translator for the press and the police. Some british journalists, after sucking him to the bones, start suspecting his availability.

The Murat contradiction

Contrarily to the GNR elements and the Ocean Club’s staff, who participated in the searches on the night before and assure they did not see Murat around, Gerry and some of his friends guarantee that he was there. And thus he becomes an arguido.

Gerry and Kate’s friends, who are interrogated tightly by the PJ over almost a month, refuse to clarify this contradiction, when asked by Sol. “We have a pact. This is our matter only. It is nobody else’s business”, says David Payne, another element with the group. Minutes after we tried to contact Kate, Gerry, in a fury, calls the Sol journalist: “What do you think you are doing? Do you think you’re better than the portuguese police? I’m going to forward your contact to PJ and you will have to explain yourselves”.


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PJ says ‘everybody is a suspect’

The director of the Policia Judiciaria in Faro, Guilhermino da Encarnacao, confirmed with Sol that “we do not discard the possibility to have the family and friends as suspects”. This is always done “without neglecting other clues. Everybody who was at the resort at the time are suspects”.

[gods sun]

if you look it up i think there is a strong link in jehovah witness and madeline case to me i think police should do secret searchs of kingdom halls all over the world like russia thats just me but im sure it has somthing to do with here faith.

http://icnewcastle.icnetwork.co.uk/sundaysun/kenoxley/tm_headline=living-in-a-mad--media-world&method=full&objectid=19137288&siteid=50081-name_page.html#story_continue

And Murat is allegedly involved in a "love triangle", has a daughter in the UK who looks "just like Madeleine" and his partner in Portugal is a "German Jehovah's Witness".

[mari]

why has leaving your toddlers alone and then going out drinking 400m away not been mentioned by the media once.

It has, but only in passing. Don't forget these were middle class parents; doctors, for heaven's sake! Had they been your usual beer-swilling,pot bellied,baseball -cap wearing mater & pater on 'oliday, then rest assured,our wonderful press would have wet their collective knickers.

[kromagg]

Don't mean to sound rude or anything, but am I the only person confused as to why this little kid is any more special than the thousands or more kids that are kidnapped every year (whatever the motive)?

[pumma]

Don't mean to sound rude or anything, but am I the only person confused as to why this little kid is any more special than the thousands or more kids that are kidnapped every year (whatever the motive)?
Agree...

As I look deeply into the story it seems that things were planned (allowed) to happen > Her parents keeping their "guards down" on purpose ...

Hope she'll return somehow...

[julieray]

She is special because of her bloodline or dna. From what I have been investigating with the help of my good friend, although she is just a normal little girl, there is something significant relating to her. We have so many pieces of the jigsaw, they are just not fitting into place right now, but suffice to say that the Knights Templar were the original keeper of the holy grail. We have read that Jesus did not in fact die on the cross as religions tell us, that he came to Britain, more particularly Scotland, that he was married to Mary Magdelene and had children. The Knights Templar were persecuted and murdered in France (Catholic connections - depicted as being the Beast). The Masons, I think took over (possibly the secret) but power, knowledge, wealth has caused corruption and knowledge has been mis-used. I did a meditation and found that those at the top of the pyramid who were given the truth did not use it appropriately, therefore we are not living the existence we were supposed to. We are being deceived through greed and through our ignorance we are continuing to allow this to happen. I felt that we were all supposed to be passed this knowledge, truth, but it did not happen, so now it is for us to discover this truth for ourselves and we will.

I can't quite put my finger on it but it is definitely a battle of truth and deceipt - and of course this is not going to make it to the news because we are not supposed to know that things like this even exists only the illuminati will know of such things and the real reasons behind it all. Numbers and symbols are appropriate too. As someone has mentioned on the 07.07.07 Madeleine would have been missing for 66 days on the Friday 13th 07 she would have been missing another 6 days. This day was the unlucky day the Knights Templar were all but destroyed incidentally 1307. If she is located on this day, then it is most definitely significant, unlucky day for most but not for the McCanns or for the rest of the world who are waiting for news that she is safe and well. Links with Mary Magdelene and Madeleine's Birthday has also been mentioned and possibly the links to a third World War lasting from 2007 til 2012 may also be significant, but on a more spiritual level in that it will be a battle of religious orders fighting to keep their power over us, until they will not be able to hide the truth any longer - we will all know the truth, they will be powerless (incidentally they already know the truth and are keeping it from us) I feel little Madeleine will be instrumental in this somehow. The fact that they are Catholics too is important, I feel that a step back from their religion when they have found so much faith in their belief could also play a part - we don't hear about them attending church on a regular basis any longer do we?? I may be way off the mark, but that is the feeling I get from all this. Madeleine is important, very important in fact, and that does not take anything away from all the poor innocent children that have gone missing - anyone who could do something like this does not deserve, love and compassion, but I do believe these individuals will be punished in their own way regardless.

It would be interesting to hear what other people think of various theories, symbolism, numbers references etc. It definitely goes far beyond little Madeleine whichever way you look at it.:rolleyes:

[zircon]

.... the Friday 13th 07 she would have been missing another 6 days. This day was the unlucky day the Knights Templar were all but destroyed incidentally 1307....

Are you sure? According to Wiki, "On Friday, October 13, 1307, King Philip had many of the Order's members in France arrested, tortured into "confessions", and burned at the stake" so that would have been 13/09/1307. Maybe needs checking up on.

[julieray]

Yes, sorry, I didn't mean to imply that it was on the anniversary but it was on Friday 13th and the year was 1307. I was merely pointing out some links and wandering whether or not she may be found on a Friday the 13th which would be this friday which would coincide with being another 6 days from that of 07.07.07 which was 66 days from when she originally went missing. Just seemed to be of some relevance, however, investigations are ongoing into this ever increasing web of deceipt, lies and untruths.:)

[tinmenace]

She is special because of her bloodline or dna. From what I have been investigating with the help of my good friend, although she is just a normal little girl, there is something significant relating to her. We have so many pieces of the jigsaw, they are just not fitting into place right now, but suffice to say that the Knights Templar were the original keeper of the holy grail. We have read that Jesus did not in fact die on the cross as religions tell us, that he came to Britain, more particularly Scotland, that he was married to Mary Magdelene and had children. The Knights Templar were persecuted and murdered in France (Catholic connections - depicted as being the Beast). The Masons, I think took over (possibly the secret) but power, knowledge, wealth has caused corruption and knowledge has been mis-used. I did a meditation and found that those at the top of the pyramid who were given the truth did not use it appropriately, therefore we are not living the existence we were supposed to. We are being deceived through greed and through our ignorance we are continuing to allow this to happen. I felt that we were all supposed to be passed this knowledge, truth, but it did not happen, so now it is for us to discover this truth for ourselves and we will.



Exactly what the book Holy Blood Holy Grail says. Did you know that Michael Baigent is the editor of a major Freemason magazine? Safe to assume he's a Freemason, hence the obsession with bloodline.

[julieray]

Exactly what the book Holy Blood Holy Grail says. Did you know that Michael Baigent is the editor of a major Freemason magazine? Safe to assume he's a Freemason, hence the obsession with bloodline.

No I did not, but it seems to make more sense now you have said that. I have just done an Amazon search and have bought it so thank you for that, I am sure it will be an interesting read. I just wish we knew the truth instead of having to be involved in detective work, sifting through all the crap just to get to a bit of the truth, it is so time consuming. No wonder under the US "communism rule" they want everyone to be kept busy, so people don't find out the truth. I have been reading all day instead of sorting out the kids's uniform for school tomorrow, goodness knows what time I will be getting to bed tonight.

[tinmenace]

No I did not, but it seems to make more sense now you have said that. I have just done an Amazon search and have bought it so thank you for that, I am sure it will be an interesting read. I just wish we knew the truth instead of having to be involved in detective work, sifting through all the crap just to get to a bit of the truth, it is so time consuming. No wonder under the US "communism rule" they want everyone to be kept busy, so people don't find out the truth. I have been reading all day instead of sorting out the kids's uniform for school tomorrow, goodness knows what time I will be getting to bed tonight.



Yeah, I started a thread called Did you know HE was a Freemason? (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4934) I think he's the second entry.

[julieray]

I took a look and posted a comment, my 2p worth at least. Very interesting but I bet they are all, well mainly all oblivious at what is really going on. I think any organisation set up to do good, at the very top most level, corruption is rife, even so called charities. You never see any running their organisations out from their council houses running a corsa do you?? No main city offices with top of the range Jags or BMWs. Mark my husband did some work a few years back for Dogs for the Disabled. They were all getting new cars delivered that day and I think he said they were all Jags. Just takes the piss.

Well, going off on another tangent, just wanted to inform everyone that Brian Ladd from USA seems to think that Madeleine will now be found very soon now as does Matthew James and in fact Matthew goes so far as to say he thinks that Robert Murat may take his own life - he genuinely feels that he does not know where she is. The trouble is, the people that do get blamed are probably never going to be the real culprits anyway, those at the top always seem to get away with it and put a pawn in their place don't they??? We will have to watch this space. Considering that the Portugese Police abide by a strict code of silence, one Newspaper, Daily Express, reckon that the net is closing in the Police state that they will be making drastic moves forward this week - where did they get this information from???

[splinterg]

What exactly does Praia da Luz mean? I being told by a translator it means Beach of Luz..Praia means Beach..So when I tryed from memory to translate what I thought was the correct spelling..Praire do Luz..I got back Praire of the light..Does Luz in some way indicate light as well as a naming place?

[peachped]

What exactly does Praia da Luz mean? I being told by a translator it means Beach of Luz..Praia means Beach..So when I tryed from memory to translate what I thought was the correct spelling..Praire do Luz..I got back Praire of the light..Does Luz in some way indicate light as well as a naming place?

Yes according to this link:http://www.babynamescountry.com/meanings/Luz.html


"Meaning: The Spanish name Luz means - light. Religion: Nuestra Senora de Luz - Our Lady of the Light - is another name for the Virgin Mary"

[synergy777]

its off the radar now, i hope she is fine/well/safe, but it don't look too good. also the parents have been quiet.

[pedsi]

The calm before the storm............
Although there has still been murmerings in the press about people being re questioned by the police...just a way of keeping the story ticking along possibly

[chimera_muse]

why has leaving your toddlers alone and then going out drinking 400m away not been mentioned by the media once.

That has what I was thinking all along, but the media seems to hold back on judgement calls on parents who are "victims"... it was all quite odd actually.. a pair of doctors as parents who left their children in a room in a foriegn country all alone?

I don't know the whole story but it didn't sit well with me to think someone could have gone though the window to carry away a small child while sleeping.. that felt, well, sick.

Then the parents leaving their children all alone felt just as sick.. but this kind of detachment seems to be more and more common place.

[notaslave]

Human behaviour.... kids like water, my youngest thought he could walk on it at two years old. Kids under five often become fretful in strange surroundings and dont sleep as they would at home.

3 kids under the age of 5, left with a swimming pool between them and their parents, I know junkies who wouldnt do that.

The behaviour doesnt fit doctors unless they had drugged their children and could be sure they wouldnt wake. That is the only explanation I could accept as being fitting to the actions.

[reptilianshapeshifter]

it's the "went in to check every 30 minutes" that blew my mind on the day (still does).

I've got two kids of my own and I would never leave them unattended for that long in that situation. It's retarded.

[karma19]

Would people have had a different view of the parents involvement if they hadn't had good jobs. If a young mum from Liverpool had left her children in a villa by themselves there would have been up roar. Why were these children left. The site also did a babysitting service.............strange. I certainly would never leave my child whilst I went for dinner!!

[illuminotti]

the english translation for praia deluz is.........beach of light, our lady of the light!

[aventurine]

it's the "went in to check every 30 minutes" that blew my mind on the day (still does).

I've got two kids of my own and I would never leave them unattended for that long in that situation. It's retarded.


Completely agree! It's not like these two individuals needed to penny pinch on babysitting either, if they were so intent on having an evening out by themselves.

Not that I have ever used a sitting service in a holiday resort though - my kids have always been my responsibility & I would never trust a stranger with their welfare in this sort of situation. I'm quite happy to have an early dinner with the whole family, then sit & have a drink on the balcony (or whatever) once the little ones are in bed. It's what you do when you've got kids, surely?

[aventurine]

Just wanted to add, that my feeling on the second day of this whole case was that the parents would never see their little girl again....

Hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it.:(

[reptilianshapeshifter]

it's starting to look that way, aventurine. It's very sad. When you have you own children it really wrenches on the heartstrings when you think of your own kids in that same position.

I still find it unfathomable what they did. I would not be able to relax in a restaurant knowing the kids are on their own.

If she has been abducted and still alive she may never be seen again and will probably spend a lot of her life in hiding. At that age, I question if she will end up forgetting about her parents in 10-15 years. If she ever breaks free from this alive (when she is older), she will surely find out about her abduction because of the significance of that detail in her eye is not something that can be hidden.

I dread to think what that child is going through right now, nevermind the parents.

[julieray]

I have been reading about the beliefs of the Raelites recently and they believe that we are cloned from another humanoid race. They have told Rael (a French Prophit) that we will progress in technological advancement and be able soon to do the same thing because that is how new worlds are created. I also went on Cloneaid.com and they do actually clone babies and have done so, as far as I can tell from quite some years. There was one little girl that they called Eve that was a living clone, though you never get to hear about this in the news and apparently the Pope has got about 15 doctors working on this too. It just occurred to me yesterday that I wonder if she is a clone and that is why she is special?? It does make sense when you think that her parents come from the medical profession and would have the contacts and she was apparently the product of IVF... or so we are told. I would have thought that it would have been morally and ethically incorrect to a Catholic, especially when the Pope spouts off at abortion.... double standards surely!! I think she is going to be found alive and well by the way, because of who she is and possibly what she is too!

[splinterg]

I have been reading about the beliefs of the Raelites recently and they believe that we are cloned from another humanoid race. They have told Rael (a French Prophit) that we will progress in technological advancement and be able soon to do the same thing because that is how new worlds are created. I also went on Cloneaid.com and they do actually clone babies and have done so, as far as I can tell from quite some years. There was one little girl that they called Eve that was a living clone, though you never get to hear about this in the news and apparently the Pope has got about 15 doctors working on this too. It just occurred to me yesterday that I wonder if she is a clone and that is why she is special?? It does make sense when you think that her parents come from the medical profession and would have the contacts and she was apparently the product of IVF... or so we are told. I would have thought that it would have been morally and ethically incorrect to a Catholic, especially when the Pope spouts off at abortion.... double standards surely!! I think she is going to be found alive and well by the way, because of who she is and possibly what she is too!


Interesting thought..I too have read in some circus report somewhere that MM was IVF..

The eye thing..how does a split iris occur? Is it through injury alone or can it develop naturally? Was MM born with with this perculiarity or has there been a mentioning as to what happened?

[indigo]

What are you all going on about? This is what I think. I think all this money which is going in to the fund is actually going to the catholic churches.

Every country the mccanns have visited have been of catholic faith, Even visiting the friggin pope for fucks sake.

What did the mccanns say? ''oh if maddie isn't found we will lose faith in our religion''

So when she is found, will everyone turn to catholisism? is that what they are hoping? Are the catholics going short?

Oh lets not forget Portugal! Erm, what is the main religion there? It wouldn't be Roman Catholic would it? Oooh what a coincidence!

And what next? ''hey maddie would've been found quicker had she been microchipped!'' Cue everone getting their kids microchipped.

We are all being taken for a fucking big ride!

[indigo]

And just to add to my post.......Portugal has laws which prevent them giving out details, they also have lack of cctv!

What a place to carry off this scam!

[chimera_muse]

Would people have had a different view of the parents involvement if they hadn't had good jobs. If a young mum from Liverpool had left her children in a villa by themselves there would have been up roar. Why were these children left. The site also did a babysitting service.............strange. I certainly would never leave my child whilst I went for dinner!!

Now this got me angry, because they did have the means available to avoid a problem and to behave responsibly. They didn't have to leave their babies alone.

I'd like to get into some of these things in more detail but I am leaving for London on Sunday and locking up my computer, but when I get back I have a few theories of my own on the problem with people leaving their children, as well as school systems leaving children on their own to cope..

I think the story also touched a nerve with me because when I was little, my mother was singel and had to work, she worked at night and sometimes when she didn't have anyone to look after me, I was left alone.. and I remember how I felt about it because I didn't know until I woke up one night not feeling well and there was no one around!!

That little girl Madeline has been in the newspapers and everywhere, and the odd thing about it was I had a sudden flash that she was found, and that my first impressions of the case was totally wrong, that someone took her just because she was left on her own, (with her younger siblings) to teach her parents a lesson... but I get those flashes when I read some of the stories in the papers from far away without contact lenses. After seeing the activity on this thread I assume no one has found her yet or those things I read were not "there" or had been "edited"; some things are in fact "edited", but I wonder what would be the point in this situation?

Another thing about the Madeline case was also the fact she fit the discription of the "A-Baby". With what they say about human sacrifices.. all those children would be the most sought after types as well, its just hard to think that someone could be so bold to remove a sleeping child through the window...that type of boldness fills me with utter nausia.

[splinterg]

What are you all going on about? This is what I think. I think all this money which is going in to the fund is actually going to the catholic churches.

Every country the mccanns have visited have been of catholic faith, Even visiting the friggin pope for fucks sake.

What did the mccanns say? ''oh if maddie isn't found we will lose faith in our religion''

So when she is found, will everyone turn to catholisism? is that what they are hoping? Are the catholics going short?

Oh lets not forget Portugal! Erm, what is the main religion there? It wouldn't be Roman Catholic would it? Oooh what a coincidence!

And what next? ''hey maddie would've been found quicker had she been microchipped!'' Cue everone getting their kids microchipped.

We are all being taken for a fucking big ride!


There's more to this than just trying to increase the believers of a religion..But you are right..there are many portugese laws that lend very well to pulling off all sorts of scams and deceptions..We are indeed being taken for a ride..but none so bigger than the fucking ride of life that we all have our eyes covered for..

[livinglifealive]

I have had different feelings around whether this little girl is alive or not. I sincerely hope she is - time will tell I guess.

I find it puzzling that there are 'remote viewing teams' within the corridors of power, and also often members of the public might come forth with information, 'received' but nothing like this has happened - why? Where are those cloistered 'remote viewers' at times like these?

What I do feel is going to manifest, whatever the outcome (hence the mass media frenzy around it) is the 'solution' which will be micro chipping.
In the deep pained state of madelines parents, if someone were to ask them how might they have felt had madeline been microchipped? for sure they would have seen it as a gift from god... and might joyously accept any options around having their other sweet children micro chipped.
when people and populace are touched so deeply by such loss - then people clamour for 'solution' - so we are back to problem, reaction solution.
One of the solutions to this will be more talk and or action around micro chipping? just some thoughts.
ruth

[holly_ocean]

Yea Livinglifealive you're here!
Hooray!
and speaking words of wisdom as ever
I love you!
I'm feeling microchipping coming very fast right now and not just because of this - it's in the air (and i'm hoping not literally)

[indigo]

What are you all going on about? This is what I think. I think all this money which is going in to the fund is actually going to the catholic churches.

Every country the mccanns have visited have been of catholic faith, Even visiting the friggin pope for fucks sake.

What did the mccanns say? ''oh if maddie isn't found we will lose faith in our religion''

So when she is found, will everyone turn to catholisism? is that what they are hoping? Are the catholics going short?

Oh lets not forget Portugal! Erm, what is the main religion there? It wouldn't be Roman Catholic would it? Oooh what a coincidence!

And what next? ''hey maddie would've been found quicker had she been microchipped!'' Cue everone getting their kids microchipped.

We are all being taken for a fucking big ride!

Sorry to quote my own post, but I'm really starting to wonder about where all the mccanns funds are going, especially after hearing about the Catholic Church has had to make huge payouts to child abuse victims.:mad:

[julieray]

I absolutely agree, especially when the campaign is all about raising funds. If I were in charge, it would be about raising awareness, changing the law (for the better) challenging the current law positions and trying to make real proper headway - afterall what is the money going to do and where is it going to go? That is the question because no amount of money will find Madeleine will it - afterall the reward money hasn't done any good at all. Makes you wonder what it really is all about!!

[reptilianshapeshifter]

the funds are obviously financing the fact they are staying portugal and taking trips around europe to raise awareness. nothing wrong with that. They vowed not to come home until she was found. Do you think the portugese are gonna pay for it? hardly.

The funds are small change in the scheme of things, it's not serious money to put some kind of financial conspiracy behind it.

[dickiebiz]

alot of you are saying that madeline being on the news so much is a distraction from something els thats going on.
well you might be right, but what about microchips.
when this is all over and they hopfully find out whats happened to madeline or give up on the case, wont it be a good time for the goverment to say this would'nt of happened if she had been microchiped at birth. maybe this is a case of problem reaction solution in the running:D

[pedsi]

This is from todays daily record,more references to the catholic faith which has been mentioned extensively in this case.

She said: "We were reunited with family to celebrate welcoming two children into the Catholic faith.


"Gerry and I wanted to be there to take part and to support our godchildren on one of the most important days of their lives.

[julieray]

Yes, and just look at LA at the moment with over 500 people claiming that preists ruined their lives by sexually assaulting them, and so it goes on and what has happened to all these Priests, pray tell, shunted on to some other unsuspecting families in other parts of the world to leave open the gate for them to carry on doing what they are doing to other innocent children. It is not the children that should be microchipped it is those disgusting people. As for the money, I am suspicious a little because someone I know is helping on the Madeleine Fund and when they asked what favour they should ask a shadow MP, as they were owed a favour - they just asked for everyone to place a fiver into the fund???? Now that to me does not make sense when some real headway could have been gained more on a political stance - that is cause for concern don't you think..... a fiver or political headway???? I know what I would have asked for!!

[splinterg]

Interesting report..

Quote: published in Sol, on June 30, 2007
an article by Felicia Cabrita and Margarida Davim

Madeleine Case

Pact of Silence

Madeleine’s parents and the friends with whom they spent their holidays in PDL are suspects in the inquiry. There are contradictory versions about the night of the kidnapping, and an assumed pact of silence in the group

The beginning of June is flowing in a strange way in the Algarve. A chilly wind and overhead clouds help to fill the auditorium of Lagos, where a solidarity concert is being held for the missing english girl. It’s been a month since Madeleine McCann vanished without a trace.

A few kilometres from Lagos, in the Ocean Club resort at Praia da Luz, the faint illumination further densifies the climate. At the reception, which leads to the Tapas restaurant, there is nobody. Getting inside is easy.

A portuguese waiter, but with a british ‘behaviour’, strikes the first blow on the journalist’s plan: “We only serve dinner to the club’s clients”. “What about a drink?”. He says yes.

It’s 9.30 p.m. If we were to believe the several members of the McCann’s holiday group, and after several mismatching versions, at this time Madeleine was being carried out of her apartment by a dark-haired man, who would be around 35 years old.

From the same table where the group of nine had dinner on that evening, one tries, in vain, to observe the apartment’s front – a ground floor apartment that faces the restaurant. A linoleum screen on the side of Tapas and the corridor of bushes that follows the limits of the apartment’s back yards prevents any vigilance to that level.

The image of Madeleine – big blue, questioning eyes and an innocent smile, fixed on the photographic films – is always present. It doesn’t leave the conversations of whom passes by. One remembers the words that the mother, Kate Healy, is supposed to have said to a friend (and that the husband, Gerry McCann, did not know): “I had a bad premonition about my children, when I found out the Ocean Club had no baby listening service”.

The choice of Algarve as a holiday destination would come to change their lives. Everything was arranged with three other couples, with whom they used to travel. Some of them had recently been to Greece, with their children, and the Mark Warner agency, the same that prepared their trip to the Algarve, had done their itinerary for the islands. According to their reports, the hotel where they stayed had a baby listening service – a service that is assured by four or five members of staff who would control the children while the adults dined, by listening through doors and windows to confirm that everything inside was quiet.

At the Tapas bar, from bartenders to staff from the Kid Club, criticism is whispered: “We have a creche where they left their children for most part of the day, where they could be until 11.30 p.m. without spending another Euro. They could also have used our baby-sitters, who stay with the children in their rooms until 1 p.m. In this case, they would have to pay an extra fee, but these people looked like they could afford it”, an employee comments, concluding that “this was a very strange group, that never stayed with their children”.

The children’s routine

The story of Madeleine looks like a tangled ball of wool. In the last days of April, Kate and Gerry, both 39 and doctors, arrive with their friends in Praia da Luz. The weather is not very good, but the group makes the best of it. The children seem to exist outside of the adults’ world. In the morning, Kate would take Madeleine, almost 4, and the 2-year old twins, to the Kid Club. The other couples in the group did the same. While the little ones entertained themselves with collages and paintings, the group divides itself between tennis and jogging until lunchtime. In the creche, the girl’s picture is taken: “She was shy and had some difficulty in adapting to the group. She always stayed close to the english children she already knew”.

It is at lunchtime that the families socialize a bit. After a short nap, the children go back to the Kid Club, while the parents use the activities that the club offers. They only get to meet again in the late afternoon, when the children’s dinner is served. Before 8 p.m., Madeleine and her siblings, who seem to function like a clock, are already asleep. Half an hour later, the group of friends meets at Tapas. The staff remember that they only leave at midnight: “They were very lively and drank a bit too much. I didn’t even realize they had children, because I never saw them around”.

Mathew Oldfield, one of the elements of the group, is back in England. He reacts with surprise upon the contact of Sol, but he does not avoid the conversation: “We drank. We were on holidays. So what?”.

And thus the days followed one upon another, at the Ocean Club. The holiday week is almost over and the group’s spirit does not change. Nobody had noticed until then, how the children were kept at a distance.

The most reliable way to undrestand what happened on May 3, when Madeleine disappeared, is to analyze the various versions that emerged.

It would have been 10 p.m. when Kate decided to check the children at the apartment. This is the only moment in the story that gathers consensus. Madeleine had vanished from her bedroom and the twins were sleeping like nothing had happened. The mother was back at the restaurant in one leap. She was disoriented.

PJ called two hours later

In seconds, the resort is in turmoil. The group’s four men and the club’s employees check every corner. They seem to be oblivious of the essential: to call the authorities. GNR is the first to arrive at the scene, but the news only reach Policia Judiciaria (PJ) more than two hours later. The first explanations arise. Where were the parents when the child disappeared? Gerry explains that, inspired in the scheme that some of the friends had used on their holidays in Greece, the nine members of the group took turns in checking on the children with some regularity.

This is the beginning of a story that will change in many chapters. Gerry starts by saying that he first left the table to check on the children around 9.05 p.m. When he entered the apartment the children were fine, he just noticed that the door to their bedroom was partially open. He looked at the window, which was closed, just as the shutters, and relaxed.

Ten minutes later, his friend Jane Tanner, who went around the apartments, crossed ways with a dark-haired man who was walking in the opposite direction, carrying a child. She didn’t make any connections either.

A few minutes later, Mathew Oldfield enters the room, sees the McCann children fast asleep, and notices nothing out of the ordinary. It is at 10 p.m. that Maddie’s mother discovers her daughter has disappeared. The window was wide open and the shutters were up.

To GNR, who is in the area with sniffer dogs to search for the child, this is a highly unlikely scenario. One of the military assures: “This is an extremely silent area, where there are practically no passing cars. That shutter was very difficult to lift from the outside, and would have made a lot of noise. It would have been a lot easier to use the door, but there were no signs of a break-in”.

This was just one of the reasons why the group became suspicious in the eyes of the investigators. Russell O’Brien, Jane Tanner’s husband, is already back in England, but he knows he could be summoned back to Portugal for a deposition anytime. Over the phone with Sol, he tries to keep his british phlegm: “It is normal that we are suspects, and the DNA test is a consequence thereof. We were the closest people involved”.

The conversation always comes back to the same issue: the night of the disappearance. The account of that last dinner has disparate versions among the group’s members. Some swear that someone left the table every half hour to check on the kids; other reduce that time to half of it. Some say control is made window by window; others say the adults entered each other’s apartments.

One of the employees that was on duty that evening does not remember a lot of movement: “I only remember a tall, grey-haired man getting up once from the table”. It was Russell, who, two days earlier, also had attended dinner.

An aerobic instructor from the resort entertains the dinner guests at Tapas with a ‘Quiz’. At 9.30 p.m. the game ends, and Gerry invites her to their table, where she stays for half an hour. During that time, as she later confided to friends, nobody left the table, but one of the chairs was vacant. Najova Chekaya refuses to talk to Sol. And Russell, when the questions start to surround him, loses his sympathy: “I have nothing further to tell you. I am not going to dishonor the compromise I assumed with Kate and Gerry. They want to control all infornation that is disclosed”.

Gerry changes his version several times, but he maintains that the door to his children’s room was open. Mat revokes his first statement: when he entered Madeleine’s room, the door was open and there was more light, as if the shutters had been raised. Here starts to develop the theory that there was already someone inside the apartment. Which reinforces Jane Tanner’s version (that she saw a man carrying a child).

Only Jane saw the man carrying a child

But there is a witness whose deposition contradicts this theory. Jeremy Wilkins – a tv producer who had met Maddie’s father during their holidays and used to play tennis with him – was walking his eight months old son at that time. He met Gerry, who went out through the apartment’s back door after having checked on the children, and the two man exchanged a brief conversation. At that time, if one is to believe the first accounts, Jane would have left Tapas in the direction of the apartment’s main entrance, and would have crossed paths with both of them. “It was a very narrow road and I think it would have been almost impossible to walk by without me taking notice”, Jeremy says, pointing out the fact that he saw no man carrying a child, as Jane states.

But Jane continues to guarantee that, at the top of the street, she saw a man with a child in his arms.

Although the area is scarcely lit, and the situation did not make her suspicious at the time, she describes the beige trousers, the dark thick jacket and the black classic-style shoes in a detailed way. Once again, Jeremy disagrees: “If that happened, I would have likely seen it”.

On the next day, the media circus was fully installed. The first reports are on Sky News first thing in the morning, even before portuguese press takes hold of the story. Journalists and locals dispute the information. Robert Murat, the son of an english mother and a portuguese father, with little luck in business, does not waste the opportunity. He moves from failed businessman into the role of a translator for the press and the police. Some british journalists, after sucking him to the bones, start suspecting his availability.

The Murat contradiction

Contrarily to the GNR elements and the Ocean Club’s staff, who participated in the searches on the night before and assure they did not see Murat around, Gerry and some of his friends guarantee that he was there. And thus he becomes an arguido.

Gerry and Kate’s friends, who are interrogated tightly by the PJ over almost a month, refuse to clarify this contradiction, when asked by Sol. “We have a pact. This is our matter only. It is nobody else’s business”, says David Payne, another element with the group. Minutes after we tried to contact Kate, Gerry, in a fury, calls the Sol journalist: “What do you think you are doing? Do you think you’re better than the portuguese police? I’m going to forward your contact to PJ and you will have to explain yourselves”.

——-

PJ says ‘everybody is a suspect’

The director of the Policia Judiciaria in Faro, Guilhermino da Encarnacao, confirmed with Sol that “we do not discard the possibility to have the family and friends as suspects”. This is always done “without neglecting other clues. Everybody who was at the resort at the time are suspects”.

http://sol.sapo.pt/PaginaInici…..t_id=42529

[julieray]

It does make you wonder, create the problem, make everyone fear for the safety of their children, keep it up in the news to heighten the fear, then bring about the order by finding Madeleine and recommend chipping, that way our children will be safe and we will feel safe once more - just like someone else on this link has said - it does seem so, so clear now! What makes me wonder is WHAT SORT OF PEOPLE DO WE HAVE IN POWER??? Oh, I forgot, they are not human are they, it is nothing more than we have come to expect, but to have a family in on it and to use their own daughter in this way is absolutely diabolical. If all this is true, and whether we will ever find out or not, I very much doubt, the McCanns ought to be ashamed of themselves, well and truly!! Mind you, only Roman Catholics could be so shallow, I dare say the fund is going to pay off some of the hugh pay offs recently agreed to the poor victims of LA!! What an utter sham. However, if no-one agrees to have their children chipped then it cannot possibly work can it?? As my husband said, the only thing that should be chipped is the potato, and I will second that!! Oh and the Paedos too!

[indigo]

It does make you wonder, create the problem, make everyone fear for the safety of their children, keep it up in the news to heighten the fear, then bring about the order by finding Madeleine and recommend chipping, that way our children will be safe and we will feel safe once more - just like someone else on this link has said - it does seem so, so clear now! What makes me wonder is WHAT SORT OF PEOPLE DO WE HAVE IN POWER??? Oh, I forgot, they are not human are they, it is nothing more than we have come to expect, but to have a family in on it and to use their own daughter in this way is absolutely diabolical. If all this is true, and whether we will ever find out or not, I very much doubt, the McCanns ought to be ashamed of themselves, well and truly!! Mind you, only Roman Catholics could be so shallow, I dare say the fund is going to pay off some of the hugh pay offs recently agreed to the poor victims of LA!! What an utter sham. However, if no-one agrees to have their children chipped then it cannot possibly work can it?? As my husband said, the only thing that should be chipped is the potato, and I will second that!! Oh and the Paedos too!

I agree. And this kind of confirms it now. This is an interview from the mccanns saying how something needs to be done as there are so many abductions which people are unaware of. Yeah right. Usually they are telling us that these things are so rare. And I also agree about where the funds might be going. The whole thing stinks. This is an interview to scare parents. Saying how something needs to be done about it. What could that be I wonder......
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,91210-1275531,00.html

[illuminotti]

the fund....you want to go to the mirror forums, they've taken it apart, basically there frauding us all

also in reference to her eye, an armchair detective in the morror forums that 12mths ago, that eye condition was not there, hes blown up a picture taken, and her eye is fine, then i mentioned about her eye been the same as big bro logo and other logos..............the thread was wiped within seconds.............now this is on a forum where the moderators left a maddie rape joke unmoderated for 9hrs along with several other disturbing things...............within seconds it was gone

but her eye theres no drip in it

[zoloko]

the fund....you want to go to the mirror forums, they've taken it apart, basically there frauding us all

also in reference to her eye, an armchair detective in the morror forums that 12mths ago, that eye condition was not there, hes blown up a picture taken, and her eye is fine, then i mentioned about her eye been the same as big bro logo and other logos..............the thread was wiped within seconds.............now this is on a forum where the moderators left a maddie rape joke unmoderated for 9hrs along with several other disturbing things...............within seconds it was gone

but her eye theres no drip in it
Do you know where to find that pic???

[notaslave]

I just went and had a look at the mirror forums and low the first poster mentions sedation and a possible overdose/reaction.

I again will state that is the only explanation I can find for them leaving the kids. The other risks are too great, strange surroundings etc

I am not saying I approve of doctors drugging their kids but they have access and their over-familiarity, their ease with these drugs would, in my mind, make them comfortable with knocking the kids off to sleep. That way no need to worry about swimming pools or kids tottering off into the night.

I think they knocked them out.

They left their twins whilst they went on their tour, allbeit with family, you lose one kid and you tie the others to you with a length of rope for at least a year before you relax.

This suggests they know more about Maddy's disappearance.

[illuminotti]

zoloko. it was posted on the mirror forums but dissapeared after seconds,
logicman took it off the find madeleine website and blew it up,
its the black and white family photo on the right hand side of the site...........this runs alot deeper than just a child going missing

[splinterg]

Im guessing by the limited details that come with the oh so definite claims that it was Madeleine who was seen being carried by a man who was also seen earlier that night hovering around the appartments with a blonde lady and another man...? was not having no problem with a struggling maybe kicking or even screaming perhaps just crying child..Any of this for me and most people no doubt would stand out and would be remembered..If there was no struggling child..then maybe Madeleine too was drugged to make for an easy operation..or maybe Madeleine was never in the room? Either way it stinks of manipulative measures on the public

[splinterg]

Hi folks,

it might be worth some of you firstly reading this: -

http://www.nlpschedule.com/random/police-interrogation.html

Then watching this....

http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,91210-1267559,00.html

Strange.

Strange it is..weird also the relaxed mood and stranger still that the first interview contained no plea to whoever may have taken Madeleine..I'd be going frantic..wouldnt be able to sit still..just wouldn't have it in me to sit and talk about the media when there's a little girl missing?

[julieray]

Something was mentioned to me a few days ago and that was, why did Uncle Brian give up his job the very next day and start up the Madeleine Fund??? She could have been found within hours or days, so why would someone readily give up a job and start a fund that possibly was a waste of time? Have you also seen this man? I wouldn't let him look after my kids. Another thing is too, is that I don't think he was saying all that many nice things about Maddie either, I am going to check the archives, but a friend mentioned this. Also it was mentioned that the McCanns would never come home without their daughter, yet he has said they will come home after the summer and a party will be planned!!! Why on earth would they have a party if Maddy was still missing?? This campaign has become far bigger than just looking for a little girl, in fact, it would suit the campaign well if she was not found. Furthermore, I wonder if he is catholic too - that may account for any grievance he may have against poor little Maddie - possibly that he thinks she should never have been born perhaps?? IVF???? This does not add up at all. And by the way, he is the Campaign Manager. Does anyone know what he did before Maddie went missing??

[mariag]

There's many strange twists to this story.

Regarding the allegation of Child abuse or satanic ritual: it's been suggested that a strange looking couple had been 'chased away' by holiday makers in the Algarve who were disturbed by them taking photographs of their children. Also, Madeliene of course fits the description of what would be an ideal victim of satanic sacrifice.

The idea which has been floated is that this couple are agents looking to procure a child for powerful, shadowy figures. Or at least that is how it has been suggested in the British press. Who are they? I'm disinclined to believe this is the act of a large, well organised and powerful peadophile ring. If she HAS been abducted I'm almost certain it's to do with powerful, behind the scenes satanists.

Of course, we shouldn't forget that this is a little girl's life we're talking about. It's been something of a taboo here, but I haven't heard much mention of the fact that the parents left this little girl on her own at night with two younger siblings. Of all the horrible emotions that the mother would be going through and she hasn't mentioned the guilt?

Perhaps it's insensitive to mention these facts and opinoins, but I've not seen much talk of them elsewhere.

What do you all think?

Well having read about these horrible news of this 4 year old little girl and seen some news on tv , my concern lies also very much in the night that the event took place, and why these parents left madeleine alone with her siblings.
It has a real strang ring to it , and I smell satanism or what earth people call satanism , it has rituals written all over it , and also very strange that the parents are not showing theire guilt over leaving the children alone on the hotel room, I have children too and I would never ever leave them alone at night and especially not in a foreign country .
It is so many awful things going on in this world under the surface and I think is iressponsible as to leave children alone at night ... hey common , as a parent that thought should never ever even come to mind..
I don´t want to sound hard or make you beleive that i have no emotion or understanding for the parents worry of course but i want to make it a notice that it has a strange smell , and I my self as a parent would never leave my children unguarded since i know about all of the hidden occult conspiracys in the world ...please forgive my wrong spelling .
I sence that someyhing very bad has happened to this girl ....

[chattanova]

Well having read about these horrible news of this 4 year old little girl and seen some news on tv , my concern lies also very much in the night that the event took place, and why these parents left madeleine alone with her siblings.
It has a real strang ring to it , and I smell satanism or what earth people call satanism , it has rituals written all over it , and also very strange that the parents are not showing theire guilt over leaving the children alone on the hotel room, I have children too and I would never ever leave them alone at night and especially not in a foreign country .
It is so many awful things going on in this world under the surface and I think is iressponsible as to leave children alone at night ... hey common , as a parent that thought should never ever even come to mind..
I don´t want to sound hard or make you beleive that i have no emotion or understanding for the parents worry of course but i want to make it a notice that it has a strange smell , and I my self as a parent would never leave my children unguarded since i know about all of the hidden occult conspiracys in the world ...please forgive my wrong spelling .
I sence that someyhing very bad has happened to this girl ....

Did the parents even lock the door?
No one lefts the door unlocked and especially if it's a kid in there,
this have to be planned.

And welcome to the forum mariag;)

[mariag]

Something was mentioned to me a few days ago and that was, why did Uncle Brian give up his job the very next day and start up the Madeleine Fund??? She could have been found within hours or days, so why would someone readily give up a job and start a fund that possibly was a waste of time? Have you also seen this man? I wouldn't let him look after my kids. Another thing is too, is that I don't think he was saying all that many nice things about Maddie either, I am going to check the archives, but a friend mentioned this. Also it was mentioned that the McCanns would never come home without their daughter, yet he has said they will come home after the summer and a party will be planned!!! Why on earth would they have a party if Maddy was still missing?? This campaign has become far bigger than just looking for a little girl, in fact, it would suit the campaign well if she was not found. Furthermore, I wonder if he is catholic too - that may account for any grievance he may have against poor little Maddie - possibly that he thinks she should never have been born perhaps?? IVF???? This does not add up at all. And by the way, he is the Campaign Manager. Does anyone know what he did before Maddie went missing??

One other thing that startled me is the questioning about grief they got during the interview , they answered that they stopped grieving , that they had to be strong for the other kids . i would never stop grieving about my children if they got lost , I would search day and night , never sleep nor eat , I would search until they were found basically , I wouldnt be as calm and secure as the parents seem to be...
Something fishy going on indeed..

[mariag]

Strange parents indeed , they seem very odd, and no I don´t think they locked the door , but it is only specualtion of course.
They keep defending the fact that they left the children unattended to and they said that a lot of parents would do exactly the same thing, yeah right , if they would they would be crazy,, no one leaves theire kids unatended ...

[mariag]

Hi everyone,

I do not know if this has been posted before, but do people think poor Madeline may have been sacraficed? Look at the facts; the whole story has a very sinister and strange feel to it, in the UK and I believe all over the world the MEDIA HAS GONE MAD for this. Her parents also has a very strange air to them. The little girl is fair with blue eyes. Why the huge media push! Are some sick people feeding off human emotion again?

Yes my Fears and feelings are of such that I do think that this is an sacrificial rite , please make it so that I am wrong but I have had this feeling ever since I saw the picture of Her and read about the news ,

[reptilianshapeshifter]

I have left my kids alone for 10-15 minutes max while attending to my laundary in the basement. However, when I do that there's nothing open and I lock the door with the top lock so they can't open the door either. Besides, the area i live in always has kids and people I know outside so there's very little that would ever happen.

I'd never go to the shop or out for dinner like that though. People dont' know there's no adult in the house if i leave for the wash room.

I find what they did very weird and wouldn't dream of doing the same thing to go and eat out in portugal!

[chattanova]

I have left my kids alone for 10-15 minutes max while attending to my laundary in the basement. However, when I do that there's nothing open and I lock the door with the top lock so they can't open the door either. Besides, the area i live in always has kids and people I know outside so there's very little that would ever happen.

I'd never go to the shop or out for dinner like that though. People dont' know there's no adult in the house if i leave for the wash room.

I find what they did very weird and wouldn't dream of doing the same thing to go and eat out in portugal!

Yeah, one thing is to do it at home, but at a strange hotel....NO WAY

[mariag]

Noop not ever , Not a chance , this world is far too dangerous and it is irressponsible to leave kids alone ...

[splinterg]

Out of interest..how long can someone be under the influence of a hypnotist? I only mention this because early in the case specialists were flown over from UK to assist with the stress..the grief etc and to help make the Mccanns turn all negative thoughts into positive energy? I will try and find the report..

It seems every time I read a report somewhere inside will be the words..Im sure she will be found..Im sure she is safe and well..Im sure she is alive..I dont know why but I feel she will be found..it is like I feel the Mccanns confidence? Or Im hypnotised to that notion..Media hypnotism in part?

Maraig..you say you feel something bad has happened to Madeleine..I do too..But the difference is I think the bad was done before she vanished..thats if the eye condition is real? an existed before her vanishing

[mariag]

Out of interest..how long can someone be under the influence of a hypnotist? I only mention this because early in the case specialists were flown over from UK to assist with the stress..the grief etc and to help make the Mccanns turn all negative thoughts into positive energy? I will try and find the report..

It seems every time I read a report somewhere inside will be the words..Im sure she will be found..Im sure she is safe and well..Im sure she is alive..I dont know why but I feel she will be found..it is like I feel the Mccanns confidence? Or Im hypnotised to that notion..Media hypnotism in part?

Maraig..you say you feel something bad has happened to Madeleine..I do too..But the difference is I think the bad was done before she vanished..thats if the eye condition is real? an existed before her vanishing

well it might as well have been something awful really from the beginning as you think , the eye on the picture looks really spooky if i may say so . something just isnt right´, on the picture she looks gone or dead o somewhat distant thats what i feel when I look at it anyway, I smell rituals . phedofilia and all sorts of bad things and i am sorry ,pray that i am wrong , I don´t think the girl is alive anymore..

[klinker]

After all the intense media saturation on this story she has now become just another missing child. Another statistic. Her abduction has served it's purpose it seems whatever that purpose was or still is. :(

[indigo]

well I think she is still alive. When the mccann fund has reached enough to pay off the catholic child abuse victims, then she will appear. These are my own thoughts and ive had alot of stick for it.:mad: Hopefully i'm right:confused:

[indigo]

Also, is Gerry Mccann a Free mason?

[splinterg]

Also, is Gerry Mccann a Free mason?

I too have asked this but there has been no comeback..

[splinterg]

Also, is Gerry Mccann a Free mason?

Might want to check this link out

http://www.travelblog.org/Europe/Portugal/Algarve/blog-161313.html

[indigo]

Might want to check this link out

http://www.travelblog.org/Europe/Portugal/Algarve/blog-161313.htmlThanks splinteg! Very interesting, I'm going with option 4. I definately feel this is a hoax:(

Also Why the fuck is gerry going to meet Laura Bush:eek: this case gets weirder by the minute. I still belive what i have said all along, that this girl will be found alive. Definately. and when she is, the mccanns are gonna get whats comming to them!

[mariag]

Thanks splinteg! Very interesting, I'm going with option 4. I definately feel this is a hoax:(

Also Why the fuck is gerry going to meet Laura Bush:eek: this case gets weirder by the minute. I still belive what i have said all along, that this girl will be found alive. Definately. and when she is, the mccanns are gonna get whats comming to them!

of course it is a hoax, something about this just isn´t right and I agree with paul robin who wrote the article that if it was my daughter I would insanely never stop turning stones and look for my child day out and day in ,I would even steel money to hire detectives and secret agents , Because the love of my children and our human race I would search the world, I am sitting here crying in lack of understanding for those parents, I cant see why they dont try hard enough to search for the little girl...

[indigo]

of course it is a hoax, something about this just isn´t right and I agree with paul robin who wrote the article that if it was my daughter I would insanely never stop turning stones and look for my child day out and day in ,I would even steel money to hire detectives and secret agents , Because the love of my children and our human race I would search the world, I am sitting here crying in lack of understanding for those parents, I cant see why they dont try hard enough to search for the little girl...Try and look at it this way, They are involved in it. Madeline isn't dead! no way, Gerry is meeting Laura Bush. WTF? The parents are involved in this cover up, and it is a cover up in my eyes.... this girl will be found alive..

I have kids and they sre are playing on our emotions cos the higher up people thrive on negitivity. Plus the father is prob a free mason. It all a scam. I call them the mc scams;)

[majicdragon]

I think this event is being used to distract us from something else although I do not know what.

Perhaps this event is being used to distract from the "Three amigos" meeting in Quebec, Canada. The Presidents of US and Mexico with the Prime Minister of Canada. Heres one link.... This is not in the news...

Here the article does not mention the names of the "Amigos"
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=6313

This one has more, but the names are still not there.
http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Frontpage/2007/07/20/01648.html

[julieray]

Those links sound rather like the UK, our rights over the past 10 years have been violated beyond recognition in the name of supposedly protecting us! I think that rather than looking across seas to blame for our terror, we should certainly look to home - not for them to fix the problem - they most certainly are the problem - I am more convinced than ever about that now.

I watched the Illuminati II Antichrist DVD last night and it ended, more or less, on the antichrist being a girl - it just made me wonder.......

I suppose even Hilter was a sweet, beautiful little boy at some point in his early life. Are we being sucked into something far, far bigger??

[peachped]

THE parents of Madeleine McCann face an inquiry over the way they left their three children alone in a holiday apartment on the night she vanished.

Crown Prosecution Service lawyers are having “informal discussions” to see whether any offence was committed.
And in Portugal a campaign has begun in an attempt to see the couple jailed for neglect.

Gerry and Kate McCann have said they checked on the children regularly while with friends in a nearby tapas bar.
The development comes as Portuguese police prepare to question prime suspect Robert Murat for a third time.

They will quiz him this week over reports of messages discovered on his home computer discussing a mobile phone
picture of a “small British girl”.

The Sunday Express has learnt that *sinister rumours on the internet and malicious allegations in the Portu*guese press about the McCanns’ private life have provoked complaints to British police deman*d**ing that the couple be arrested.


http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/14355

[chattanova]

Madeleine McCann's father is continuing his visit to the United States with a series of meetings with politicians.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,91210-1276691,00.html

[peachped]

Quoted from your 'sky' link chattanova :

Mr McCann told reporters: "Obviously my focus just now is on trying to get our daughter back. That's the key thing.

"But I think there is a lot of goodwill out there at the minute, that we might be able to leave something tangible for all children."

Hmmm...." something tangible for all children." What could that be?

[notaslave]

Hmmm...." something tangible for all children." What could that be?

I dont know but I have a funny feeling we won't like it.

It will no doubt be along the same lines of "liberating Iraq"

"but we dont want liberated"

"Shutup, you're getting liberated and you will bloody well like it"

[whatnofish]

i think you just have to look at what else was happening in the news....

brown ( whos first born died) was taking over from blair.( brown is scottish but is he from the G.Lodge S.R of Freemasonry?) he comes from scotland the two places the templars escaped to, was scotland and portugal. we also had the strange remark from bush.when the queen was visiting america" only the look a mother can give".. "look" is a refrence to EYE...i for one think it was a sacrifice for the brown blair change...

if we look back a few months when william and harry where announcing to the world the party for diana at wembley. what was happening in the news???? the working girls from ipswich where turning up in rivers face down. just so happens the same time as willam and harry where on the news (around midday) two bodies had been found around the same time.... then we hear no more...

[friendsinthesky]

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22129325-663,00.html?from=public_rss

Maddy mission

The father of missing four-year-old Briton Madeleine McCann had a "productive and interesting" meeting with US Attorney-General Alberto Gonzales yesterday, to discuss efforts to tackle child abduction.

Gerry McCann and the family's campaigner, Justine McGuinness, asked for the meeting in Washington, DC, to find out about America's "more advanced systems" to find missing children.

The meeting was part of a four-day, fact-finding visit to the US by Mr McCann to learn about the work of specialist agencies in preventing child trafficking and sexual abuse

I'm guessing the world has not taken to the kidnapping of Madeline as the media would have preferred. No doubt there is a global push for "chips" they just need a platform for it's introduction.

[mariag]

Quoted from your 'sky' link chattanova :

Mr McCann told reporters: "Obviously my focus just now is on trying to get our daughter back. That's the key thing.

"But I think there is a lot of goodwill out there at the minute, that we might be able to leave something tangible for all children."

Hmmm...." something tangible for all children." What could that be?
Now this statement was really odd , I just looked the word tangible up and in my language it means real and touchable , like concrete , Now that was a peculiar sentence from the father ,
That they might be able to give something real to the children?
strange indeed

[synergy777]

poor maddies off the media radar, people are forgotten very easily. i think she is dead/sacraficed, unless she was kidnapped for a price/order.if she is alive, then i hope someone with some morality sets her free. however its doesn;t look good.

[julieray]

The parents are of the view that she is still alive and why is that?? Because they know full well that she is alive, that is why. They know more than they have been allowed to say. Didn't they say not so long ago that they wish they could tell us more?? They do know more but are being stopped by illuminati by any chance??

[splinterg]

Quoted from your 'sky' link chattanova :

Mr McCann told reporters: "Obviously my focus just now is on trying to get our daughter back. That's the key thing.

"But I think there is a lot of goodwill out there at the minute, that we might be able to leave something tangible for all children."

Hmmm...." something tangible for all children." What could that be?

Yes I wonder..?

Seems at least this would be a far more compromising option than becoming chipped..NOT!


http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23405756-details/Satellite+device+that+lets+parents+track+children/article.do


Why not just arm your child with a Mobile phone they are trackable to within 10metres? Not that i agree this is a good idea either? Chip the already existing offenders..maybe that would act as better deterrent? If not hang them high..Remove the head..

[pri01]

I too believe that the media hype and attention has been dispraportionate. Is this deliberate? The media cheifs must know that sceptics like myself will be making some noise. It doesn't make sense to attract such attention if indeed the very story is hyped in such a way to detract from others.

[kooo]

I too believe that the media hype and attention has been dispraportionate. Is this deliberate? The media cheifs must know that sceptics like myself will be making some noise. It doesn't make sense to attract such attention if indeed the very story is hyped in such a way to detract from others.

It's to scare everybody into microchipping their children.

[kooo]

I too believe that the media hype and attention has been dispraportionate. Is this deliberate? The media cheifs must know that sceptics like myself will be making some noise. It doesn't make sense to attract such attention if indeed the very story is hyped in such a way to detract from others.

It's to scare everybody into microchipping their children.

Edit: Sorry, just read back through the thread, others have mentioned this already.

[lottie]

i think you just have to look at what else was happening in the news....

brown ( whos first born died) was taking over from blair.( brown is scottish but is he from the G.Lodge S.R of Freemasonry?) he comes from scotland the two places the templars escaped to, was scotland and portugal. we also had the strange remark from bush.when the queen was visiting america" only the look a mother can give".. "look" is a refrence to EYE...i for one think it was a sacrifice for the brown blair change...

if we look back a few months when william and harry where announcing to the world the party for diana at wembley. what was happening in the news???? the working girls from ipswich where turning up in rivers face down. just so happens the same time as willam and harry where on the news (around midday) two bodies had been found around the same time.... then we hear no more...

and all this coming from the ONE EYED Prime Minister!
;)

[pri01]

Is it me or does Mr Mccan remind anyone of george bush in the way he comes accross in his interviews and the stupid things he says. Today in his nice tea party with the pope he decided to let the world know how usually this would be the highlight of their life and in fact it still basically is! They were clearly actually really looking forward to it!

We also have the couple really trying to shed some emotion in today's press conference and failing (almost as if someone has told the droids that they arent being very convinging).

By the way, does anyone have any info on Phillip Green, since they used his provate jet.

they have not shed any replyyyyy

[pedsi]

sir philip green

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Green

[mk72]

I don't know if any of you saw this. Ben Fairhall has an interesting take on the whole saga


Excerpt from an interview given to the Catholic newspaper The Tablet:
'Gerry McCann also told of an "extraordinary experience" inside the church in Praia da Luz just days after Madeleine's disappearance. The experience inspired him to launch the global campaign to find his daughter.

He said: "I had this mental image of being in a tunnel and instead of the light at the end of the tunnel being extremely narrow and a distant spot, the light opened up and the tunnel got wider and wider and went in many different directions .... I can't say it was a vision because I am not clear what a vision is but I had a mental image and it certainly helped me decide. I became a man possessed that night. The next day I was up at dawn, making phone calls."

http://ben-fairhall.blogspot.com/search?q=madeleine

[friendsinthesky]

sir philip green

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Green

Dude/chick, as entertaining as your avatar is, it's tripping me out. AND I don't do drugs. (please badman, make it stop)
:D

[synergy777]

did you see the trafficking of east european people on thr news lastnight, bbc. i think she was "ordered" by the traffickers/wealthy clients etc, its a big business, 50g plus for a kid etc. its murky world outthere

[pri01]

Hi everyone - here are some of my thoughts.

I think there is a massive mind control/hypnosis exercise being carried out here revolving around the forms of the number '3' or the letter 'm', and the eye, or corrupted eye.

At the same time the no smoking laws are coming into place in the UK.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/6700117.stm

Quote:
The government has decided on a new design for no-smoking signs and it also wants them put at the entrance of every enclosed public space - regardless of what the building is.

The approach has caused concern in the ISO. The design tweaks may not be noticeable to most - the smoke rises slightly higher than before and the cigarette angle is different - but they break ISO guidelines. They have been passed by the ISO and EU, but they cannot be classed as being the international standard.

And making it law that a sign has to be displayed at the entrance of all enclosed public spaces has been criticised as "heavy handed".

"We don't understand why the government wanted to make the changes, and plastering the signs over all these buildings is just overkill," says Mr Gray.

"Evidence suggests that people switch off when there is information overload. What if someone tunes out after seeing three signs that are irrelevant and misses the fourth one that is extremely important?"

End quote

This means that no matter where you go, you are likely to see this sign many many times.

Of course, the sensible option would be to state that all areas are no smoking by default, except where a 'smoking area' sign is displayed.

Original ISO sign

http://www.setonuk-safety-signs.co.uk/No-Smoking-Sign.jpg

New UK sign

http://www.wybone.co.uk/download/pictures/Miscellanious/no-smoking%5B1%5D.jpg

I think the 'new' sign clearley shows 'mm' or '33' where it previously did not. Also the circle with a black appendage in the bottom left is eerily familiar.

And we will all be staring at this symbol tens, if not hundreds of times per day, by law.

I have been to Wembley where they had the 'find maddy' film on. I refused to look at it because I was worried what it was doing to my brain. I looked around at the 70,000 or so people entranced by the images on the big screen.

The 'find maddy' website actually scared me when I clicked on the link because of the staring, hypnotic, symbol laden eyes, and the shock of the woman abruptly talking in a very odd voice similar to hypnotists.

This is quite a busy company - wonder what products they might have in the pipeline?
http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_GB/Products/ProdServ/
A bit of overkill here given that I have been sent a no smoking sign to display in my company car. Also, don't know if it's worth pointing out that the ash at the end of the cigarette on the no smoking sign sort of resembles twin towers on fire.

[omshanti]

Are there sexual images/overtones in this sign.
certainly the cigarette is phalic...and the smoke...two couples...?
what sayeth you?

[on the road]

as soon as i heard about the parents going to see the pope (as somebody has already mentioned) the alarm bells were ringing for me.

[lord summerisle]

Not read through all the threads but for me it this story broke just as blair was finishing up his role as prime minister. Maybe a coincidence i dont know take away the heat from him a lot did this event. Also brings me back to Sarah Payne this image is taken from rebelionx.org http://rebellionx.com/sarah3.jpg What is striking is the 13 black and white squares. The two columns with 'Sarah' written down them and the naked man in the apron. The name Sarah is also a clue - This is Masonic symbolism!!!

A Young girl like Sarah should, by rights, have no knowledge of such things. Was Sarah a victim of Masonic abuse before her final death at the hands of these murdering Satanic Bastards? Hundreds of children go missing, without trace, every year in the UK - was Sarah's picture a sad portrayal of the final demise of many of these missing children? Beware Satanists Your Time is coming to an END!!!!!!

[zircon]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6929467.stm

Today, friday 3 August.

[truthsayer]

as soon as i heard about the parents going to see the pope (as somebody has already mentioned) the alarm bells were ringing for me.

Me too, when you know what's behind the catholic religion its connection (the fish and the sun) and especially where children are concerned.

[zoloko]

I LOVE YOU!

Check this out! Banned movie: Conspiracy of Silence!!!!!!!!

THANK YOU!

[julieray]

Looks like there is more movement afoot with the alleged Belguim sighting....not! and the second search of Robert Murat's property and garden. UK Police are getting involved this time so something may turn up that was missed last time. Mind you after three long months of nothing, it makes you wonder what they are expecting to find this time round.

Whatever the outcome, just about every psychic site I have been on confirms that she is safe and well and has not been harmed in any way. There must be something to this and if she is found safe and well, then she surely must be a very special child. By all accounts she has been treated like royalty, travelling accross the Med in a billionnaire cruise liner, spending time in huge big castles. I hope we get to find out what it is all about. I can't see them using the microchip line now, I think everyone's onto them in that regard, they would be just flogging a dead horse surely?? Will it just be clone related then or something to do with the way she was made do you think?? I think that if it was supposed to be something political, they have dragged it on too much, the spark is losing its light so to speak, especially when you see that the parents don't seem to be as active in looking as one would expect. It certainly does make you wonder why? Perhaps they are being blackmailed so can't behave the way they would like??

Either way, let's hope that it all comes to a happy ending very soon.

[reptilianshapeshifter]

Whatever the outcome, just about every psychic site I have been on confirms that she is safe and well and has not been harmed in any way..

Makes me laugh that. If these people are so damn psychic why can't they tell us where she is?

[julieray]

I have mentioned this before, Matthew James, for example says that whoever is with her is very powerful in the occult. So much so, that when he tries to view, there is a veil that has been put across her, almost as though to make her invisible. If we are indeed dealing with the dark forces, I can understand their powers of being able to do this.

[cruise4]

"If these people are so damn psychic why can't they tell us where she is?"
There's always something! Every time. Even the psychics can't blame everyone else for their skepticism. Film something clearly and post it ! You've been at this for centuries haven't you?

[reptilianshapeshifter]

I have mentioned this before, Matthew James, for example says that whoever is with her is very powerful in the occult. So much so, that when he tries to view, there is a veil that has been put across her, almost as though to make her invisible. If we are indeed dealing with the dark forces, I can understand their powers of being able to do this.

Well, that's highly convenient, don't you think? Or the other possibility is that it just DOESN'T EXIST!

[shansuke]

what gets me is the folk who have made the sightings,all they had to do is call the cops and make sure the girl doesnt get out of ther sight untill they get ther.and if they try to run chase them,i mean you would think of something,thers no way any deacent human being would let them go.i just cant believe these sightings are true.and if they are then shame on the folk for letting them get away.

[mariag]

what gets me is the folk who have made the sightings,all they had to do is call the cops and make sure the girl doesnt get out of ther sight untill they get ther.and if they try to run chase them,i mean you would think of something,thers no way any deacent human being would let them go.i just cant believe these sightings are true.and if they are then shame on the folk for letting them get away.

Yes of course as you say , if they were true they should phone at once to the police and try to stop them , no i dont think it is true about the sightings cauze if they were the girl would be home by now with the parents safe and sound.

This storý about maddie gives me the creep , I still dont think the poor girl is alive anymore , or to be worse , she could be and in such a bad shape , just the thought of what might have happened to her really gives me nightmares´.

[julieray]

This is a picture of the McCann's recent trip to Spain. Who is that little girl hiding behind the car????? It was Matthew James' detective work that noticed this picture.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=472950&in_page_id=1770

We now have Code Madeleine up and running too!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=473126&in_page_id=1770

[notaslave]

Fiddling nervously with her locket, inside which she keeps a photograph of her daughter, Mrs McCann said: "There was about 20 seconds of disbelief. I was checking for her. There was panic and fear. I was screaming her name. I ran to the group [with whom the couple were having dinner]. It was just total fear."

What is this - the language doesnt make sense to me. "I ran to the group" It is not what people say unless they are on business something bothers me about this.

[howie]

The Daily Mail forgot to photoshop the line in her eye in todays edition.

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/1529/madeleine06august2007ph0.jpg

close-up
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/1340/maddyseyedailymailtn7.jpg



http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/5200/mccann1es0405468x404ny4.jpg

[notaslave]

omg someone will get their arse kicked. Excellent find btw

[kooo]

http://www.anorak.co.uk/news/madeleine-mccann/174891.html

If you want to hear what Jo Public thinks of these poor excuses for parents have a read of the above site. I've heard that the reason they are still in Portugal is because they have to report to the police station once a week, they too are suspects and rightly so. There is gossip that they are heavy drinkers and gave the children sedatives every night to make them all go to sleep by 7.30pm so they could go out for the evening by 8pm, I hear people are saying maybe they accidentally overdosed Maddy and disposed of the body themselves, there is only their word that Maddy was abducted there are no witnesses. Even the Portuguese police say missing child and not abducted child. Those 'parents' have made nearly a million pounds (blood money) out of this, they are despicable.

[peachped]

[QUOTE=howie;91721]The Daily Mail forgot to photoshop the line in her eye in todays edition.

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/1529/madeleine06august2007ph0.jpg

close-up
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/1340/maddyseyedailymailtn7.jpg



That's amazing howie! I would like to hear an explanation about this from the Daily Mail!

[reptilianshapeshifter]

it could also be likely it was photoshopped out rather than in.

[splinterg]

This was in the news 4 days ago...

Surely it would be worth attempting to use this method to find Madeleine? So why isn't it happening?

http://www.int.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=13&art_id=vn20070802104403549C501923

[notaslave]

Over on the Mirror forum reports are that Portuguese press have reported blood traces (believed to be Madeleines) in the apartment where the family stayed. I will try to find a link to the press article.

ah here it is in UK press (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23407178-details/Police+%27find+blood+on+walls+of+Madeleine+abducti on+flat%27/article.do)

[notaslave]

http://sol.sapo.pt/PaginaInicial/Sociedade/Interior.aspx?content_id=49176
[Translated by astro in the Mirror Forum]

Exclusive statement to Sol
Murat is going to sue the Portuguese State

by Felicia Cabrita

Robert Murat is going to stop being an arguido in the case of the disappearance of Madeleine. In an exclusive statement to Sol, the anglo-portuguese man’s lawyer guaranteed that his client is going to “ask the Portuguese State for a compensation for the damages that were cause”

Robert Murat is going to be declared not guilty in the case of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. A source close to the investigation guaranteed to Sol that the anglo-portuguese man is going to stop being an arguido, and that in a few days the Policia Judiciaria will release a statement, explaining the reasons for their decision.

At this moment, the GNR in Portimao is still analysing Robert Murat’s and his mother’s cars, in order to definitely clear this anglo-british man from any involvement in this case. All the diligences that were made until now – and which were followed by Sol on location – contributed to dismiss the suspicions that were cast on the translator.

To Sol, Robert Murat confessed he was very shaken with the situation, and that he wanted the investigation to end soon. “When all this is over, the first thing I’m going to do is travel to England to see my daughter, who has been extremely shaken with the situation, although she is still very small”.

Francisco Pagarete, Murat’s lawyer, even declared that his client wants to be compensated for the way he was hit by the case. “Obviously, I’m going to ask the Portuguese State for compensation over the damages that this caused”, he explained to Sol.

Murat is convinced he was involved in the alleged kidnapping of the english girl, by english journalists: “I don’t know how I got involved in the case, but I am certain it was the english newspapers that got me into this”.

During the searches that were done on Saturday – in the garden of Murat’s villa – and Sunday inside Casa Liliana, the portuguese and british agents, with the help of trained dogs, searched for any clues of Maddie’s presence, without success.

Yesterday, the police even used equipment to detect false walls, after having lifted the lid to the house’s sanitary pit to look for the girl’s body, with the help of a video camera.

In spite of the equipment that was used, no traces or clues connected to Madeleine McCann were found.

Policia Judiciaria is now focused on the McCanns and the group that was spending their holidays with them in Praia da Luz.

Just like Sol reported, the contradictory versions that were told by the english persons to the police are being analysed by the investigators.

The possibility that Madeleine was the victim of an accident, which was initially considered, seems to be discarded by the police authorities now.

The fact that a dog detected blood traces in the bedroom of Kate and Gerry indicates, as Sol could discover, that the child remained in the apartment for 2 to 4 hours after dying – given the fact that the dogs that are used by british police only smell the blood of corpses, if these remained on location for at least 2 hours.

[revelations]

I feel that there is definately something odd about this, and i suspect that this girl has ended up in the hands of satanist, i just hope that i am wrong and that she turns up alive somewhere along the line.

[splinterg]

Fiddling nervously with her locket, inside which she keeps a photograph of her daughter, Mrs McCann said: "There was about 20 seconds of disbelief. I was checking for her. There was panic and fear. I was screaming her name. I ran to the group [with whom the couple were having dinner]. It was just total fear."

What is this - the language doesnt make sense to me. "I ran to the group" It is not what people say unless they are on business something bothers me about this.

So she ran to the group..what happened meanwhile with the twins..did she just run back to the group and leave the kids alone?asleep?

[splinterg]

Could the case of missing Ylenia Lenhard be connected with Madeleine..in this translation it states the clothes found in Ylenia's backpack have been passed to Portugese Police?

The canton police pc. Gallen clarifies now - apart from the determinations in the case Ylenia - whether there are under it objects, which suggest a stay of Aeschs in south Portugal. Such lost-clothings were passed on to the Portuguese police.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.nzz.ch/nachrichten/schweiz/ylenia_bleibt_unauffindbar_1.536950.html&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=10&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3DUrs%2BHans%2BVon%2BAesch%26hl%3Den%26 client%3Dfirefox-a%26channel%3Ds%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26hs%3Dojp%26sa%3DG

Wonder if Murat ever sold Urs a house?

[notaslave]

well I guess we will find out today or within the next few days. Surely by day 100.

Murat may take the rap but I dont think he's the guilty party.

[notaslave]

The Daily Express Headlies

http://www.express.co.uk/ourpaper/view/2007-08-07#

Of course all kidnappers are careful to wash away victims blood when they snatch a victim! Also the dogs used can sense a dead body after is has lain there for 1.5hrs upwards - so who was checking the apartment?

The British press are ..... well insert your own word for them.

[kooo]

So she ran to the group..what happened meanwhile with the twins..did she just run back to the group and leave the kids alone?asleep?

Yes she left the twins alone in the apartment after she discovered Maddie had gone. Also, the patio/french doors were left ajar every night, their reason for leaving the doors unlocked was in case of fire, if there was a fire the children could escape. Shocking.

[splinterg]

The Daily Express Headlies

http://www.express.co.uk/ourpaper/view/2007-08-07#

Of course all kidnappers are careful to wash away victims blood when they snatch a victim! Also the dogs used can sense a dead body after is has lain there for 1.5hrs upwards - so who was checking the apartment?

The British press are ..... well insert your own word for them.


One set of dogs they used can smell blood belonging to a deceased body for up to 7 years old..these reports on blood found in Madeleine's room which funny enough was first reported to be in Gerry and Kate's bedroom..still simple mistake to make..these reports have no ground..how can people say she is dead? There would of been blood everywhere..including outside..it is not her blood..

If we are being led to believe that Madeleine died in the same room as the twins..then how come no blood was found on or near to them? If someone walked past you holding a young child covered in blood..you'd notice right? Again there is 2 reports one saying the man was holding a child wrapped in a blanket..the other saying that it was definitley Madeleine Mccann that was seen being whisked away without any mention of a blanket..question is how do you positively id a child wrapped in a blanket? The blood stinks of conspiracy

[notaslave]

One set of dogs they used can smell blood belonging to a deceased body for up to 7 years old..these reports on blood found in Madeleine's room which funny enough was first reported to be in Gerry and Kate's bedroom..still simple mistake to make..these reports have no ground..how can people say she is dead? There would of been blood everywhere..including outside..it is not her blood..

There is nothing to say she was violently killed, she may have had a bit too much sedative or choked on her own vomit. She may have lost only a tiny bit of blood.

[splinterg]

There is nothing to say she was violently killed, she may have had a bit too much sedative or choked on her own vomit. She may have lost only a tiny bit of blood.

The Media are jumping to the wrong conclusions..this could be anybodies blood who just so happens to of stayed in the apartment in the last 7 years? Out of order to go claiming she is dead..what evidence? A speck of blood?

She is alive..Gerry and Kate keep saying so

[zircon]

I feel that the Belgian lead has more going for it. Apart from the fact that belgium is a major Illuminati centre and has powerful controlling energies around some darkly reptilian activity, including major pedophilia scandals involving ritual; and also that the British Police would - I suspect but do not know for sure - have less influence on any investigations there, not to mention the independent media, who might struggle to get stories, it seems to be quite plausible that madeleine could be there; she could have been moved across the continent without any need to stop at any border or frontier controls, and there are places where she could be hidden and might be involved in ritual - D Icke has spoken about these places. However it is entirely possible that she has simply been abducted and is being held captive by a child thief. I still feel that this is coming to light in the aftermath of the recent planetary oppositions, but the subterfuge, if there is one, will remain for as long as saturn is in opposition to neptune - though pluto's influence may change this - the new moon on 13th August may reveal more of her whereabouts, hopefully.

[synergy777]

zircon what about 24th august, with regards to financial markets?

[zircon]

I don't know, my friend. As we approach the full moon on the 28 August there is a Square Mars - Mercury - Jupiter - Uranus. the opposition of mercury and uranus seems bound to bring suprises; sun conjoining saturn, and venus retrograde opposing neptune, as you probably know. I hadn't really thought about it... are people expecting something on the markets? It's certainly a moment of pent-up energy and likely explosive news which the full moon could force to a head... Interesting.

[julieray]

Who has control of the media?....illuminati, so why is everyone hanging on their every word here? We are getting nothing but conflicting stories....blood on walls, she is definitely dead........she has been spotted in Belguim.....she is definitely alive.

It was the same not so long ago......a letter to the press saying she was buried..........therefore she must be dead........then at the same time she was spotted in Malta........she must be alive.

Does anyone suspect that those in charge must be having a good old laugh at all these forums up and down the world talking about it, theorising if she is dead or alive......THAT IS WHAT THEY WANT..... FOR US TO BE CONCERNED ENOUGH TO CARE ABOUT HER....for what purposes we shall discover soon enough once she is found. I do believe she is alive and she is special.

Incidentally, I went and searched under Madeleine McCann on the Raelite Forum (they beleive we are clones from another advanced human race and are some sort of partners or promotors of CloneAid.com, of which I believe Madeleine is or at least something similar to do with her DNA) and the link was not for public view.....I wonder why???:confused:

There is much more to this straight forward so called abduction than meets the eye and it does stink of the Illuminati.

As I have said previously, most gifted people that I have either read on their blogs or spoken with are adamant that she is safe and well and from what the parents are saying I would tend to agree. The press are just scare mongering and trying to confuse us into a false sense of insecurity for our children.

[pedsi]

I agree with julieray to me it seems like some sort of mind control technique, a sort of disorientation and confusion............one day we're led to fear she may be dead then the next day given hope she's alive..all the while keeping our attention fixed on the story...a kind of emotional roller coaster.
its like watching a great football game that could go either way, they seem to be the ones you remember the most.

[richmick]

Their telling lies. How very odd that the guy they believe may have killed Maddy, is now dead. How bloody convenient, because it's like saying we will never know so move along people, nothing more to see here. Maybe the latest sighting was too close for comfort, belguim being a very dark place for satanist to thrive. So as a distraction, next thing we know, blood found in the hotel, madeleine is dead, parents may be involved (they might be i dont know), but this also sounds very fishy and too convenient for the police to say the main suspect is now dead, so wont be around to confirm or deny any accusaions against him. A dead end.

Bollocks, i think there are alot of red herrings here, smoke and mirrors, to hide the truth. That is just my gut feeling on this.

I was speaking to a police man the other day, he confessed to me that the force is seriously corrupted, infiltrated by Nu Labour fix it men. So dont be too surprised if they are fixing something in the maddy case too...The portugese police will of course have their fix men too, in high positions. Some day the truth will be told, but would urge people to focus on maddy as being safe and alive, and drop all the negative bollocks that she has been sacrificed, when we dont know.

What's that saying, What we focus on most becomes part of our reality. I'm focusing on Maddy being alive and protected and those dark shadows around her i curse to failure and their own destruction. Crikey, stop thinking negative for goodness sake..:eek:

[peachped]

"How very odd that the guy they believe may have killed Maddy, is now dead."

:confused: Who is this Robert Murat?

[julieray]

"How very odd that the guy they believe may have killed Maddy, is now dead."

:confused: Who is this Robert Murat?

Mr Murat was declared a suspect 10 days after Madeleine was last seen but has strenuously denied any involvement in her disappearance. I think that he maybe linked to something, but I'm not sure about Maddie. From what I have been reading, the case relating to Maddie is linked to her conception somehow.

It is the Dutch man that was found dead in the woods in Switzerland, he is a paedophile who was conveniently on holiday near to where Maddie went missing......I think a fabricated coverup myself. But this man has apparently committed suicide.......murdered more like it! All of it a big cover up so that we don't get to find out why she was taken and why she will be found alive.

I have to say that it has taken how long to invent this fabrication??? The elite, for whatever reason are trying to make damn sure we don't follow the real trail aren't they?? Perhaps we should all just perhaps start smiling and nodding indiscriminately to humour them.....after all they are the illuminated ones!!!

[peachped]

Mr Murat was declared a suspect 10 days after Madeleine was last seen but has strenuously denied any involvement in her disappearance. I think that he maybe linked to something, but I'm not sure about Maddie. From what I have been reading, the case relating to Maddie is linked to her conception somehow.

It is the Dutch man that was found dead in the woods in Switzerland, he is a paedophile who was conveniently on holiday near to where Maddie went missing......I think a fabricated coverup myself. But this man has apparently committed suicide.......murdered more like it! All of it a big cover up so that we don't get to find out why she was taken and why she will be found alive.

I have to say that it has taken how long to invent this fabrication??? The elite, for whatever reason are trying to make damn sure we don't follow the real trail aren't they?? Perhaps we should all just perhaps start smiling and nodding indiscriminately to humour them.....after all they are the illuminated ones!!!

Thanks Julie, I knew about Murat, please pardon my bad grammar.

Yes it's another strange dimension to this story about the Dutch paedo isn't it. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article2208999.ece

[adzboarder]

"For the UK as a whole, over 77,000 children go missing every year."

It's a huge taboo to say this and I'll probably get slated, but why is there so much hysteria over this individual child?

This actually happens every single day and yet this has been constantly paraded on the news for over a week now, with marathons being run for her, businessman pledging obscene amounts of money towards the case and all manner of celebrities making public appearances to talk about her. In many ways I feel like a cynical and heartless bastard for thinking something is amiss here and yet it just seems like this hysteria is beyond anything we've witnessed before and there must be a reason for it. And what's up with her eye?

Wow, I have been saying that since the whole saga started.

[peachped]

"For the UK as a whole, over 77,000 children go missing every year."


I don't believe it. Where is that figure taken from?

[notaslave]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=473408&in_page_id=1811&ico=Homepage&icl=TabModule&icc=picbox&ct=5


scroll down to the pic of rachel oldfield and fiona payne then right click, check the properties in ie or simply try to save the image - to see what they are being called. lol saw it on another forum.

[julieray]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=473408&in_page_id=1811&ico=Homepage&icl=TabModule&icc=picbox&ct=5


scroll down to the pic of rachel oldfield and fiona payne then right click, check the properties in ie or simply try to save the image - to see what they are being called. lol saw it on another forum.


Well spotted Notaslave - do you think they are trying to tell us something???
Seems to me just lately, they are trying to blame just about everyone. Everyone but the real purpetrators no doubt!!!!

As for the missing children every year going missing in the UK, we are supposed to be the most satanic Country in the World and apparently the Antichrist will be from the UK - says it all really!! Don't forget we also have all those hungry reptilian mouths to feed in the underground bases - can't have them going hungry can we!!!!!

[synergy777]

according to the mail, lol, (nice pics of mel b/scary spice/my fave spice, looking hot). anyway i digress, back to the point, there are rumours of police sources saying the mcanns story doesn't add up, and that they might be hiding her death. also the parents to me, look more relieved than worried.the mum just looks cold, real cold, and the dad just too savvy.

[klinker]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=473408&in_page_id=1811&ico=Homepage&icl=TabModule&icc=picbox&ct=5


scroll down to the pic of rachel oldfield and fiona payne then right click, check the properties in ie or simply try to save the image - to see what they are being called. lol saw it on another forum.

Now that is very interesting. Why would they be referred too as suspects?

[splinterg]

A report from 2002

http://www.prisonplanet.com/portugals_elite_linked_to_paedophile_ring.html

This report has since vanished from The Guardian site

[phildee3]

Four days after Madeline's disappearance, George W. served dinner to the Queen and Prince Philip in Washington; - the main course was "spring lamb."
Any half-decent chef (or butcher) knows that spring lamb is born, not eaten, in the spring. Prime spring lamb is harvested and eaten later - in the summer.
Are we to believe that George and Laura served their guests with frozen lamb (from last year)?

btw, Madeline was born in the spring.

[reptilianshapeshifter]

Four days after Madeline's disappearance, George W. served dinner to the Queen and Prince Philip in Washington; - the main course was "spring lamb."
Any half-decent chef (or butcher) knows that spring lamb is born, not eaten, in the spring. Prime spring lamb is harvested and eaten later - in the summer.
Are we to believe that George and Laura served their guests with frozen lamb (from last year)?

btw, Madeline was born in the spring.

No, it was obviously Madeline.

Any half decent chef would be able to tell the difference between lamb meat and a person.

[mk72]

"For the UK as a whole, over 77,000 children go missing every year."


I don't believe it. Where is that figure taken from?



This seems to be a valid figure - look on this website


http://missingkids.co.uk/missingkids/servlet/NewsEventServlet?LanguageCountry=en_GB&PageId=0

[julieray]

That figure is very disturbing, especially when we, as a Nation don't get to hear about it. Someone from Kidscape said on Sky News recently after Madeleine went missing that it was only 5-9 children a year that go missing, so to get things into proportion. I sent an e-mail to Sky saying even 5-9 children going missing is 5-9 children too many - I was absolutely livid by the attitude of HER!!! But to realise that in fact 77,000 children just vanish is absolutely appaulling. Perhaps we are indeed just cattle lower down the food chain, but surely that sort of figure is not acceptable - they don't put that on the news do they!!

[peachped]

This seems to be a valid figure - look on this website


http://missingkids.co.uk/missingkids/servlet/NewsEventServlet?LanguageCountry=en_GB&PageId=0

Every year 9,000 children go missing in Scotland.
For the UK as a whole, over 77,000 children go missing every year.

"The trauma which families suffer when children go missing is something which no parent wishes to experience. The police are acutely aware of the effects this type of incident can have and therefore the search for and investigation of missing children is given the highest priority. The scale of the problem is perhaps greater than is widely appreciated with up to 9,000 missing children in Scotland each year. While the majority of these children return safely and of their own accord, the enquiries at the early stages involve spreading the information as widely and as quickly as possible. Extending the Missing Kids Website to Scotland will greatly assist the police service in locating some of the most vulnerable young people in our communities and returning them home safely". Richard Gray, Assistant Chief Constable, Strathclyde Police and ACPOS Lead on Missing Persons.

[energy]

have A read through Ben Fairhall's blog
http://ben-fairhall.blogspot.com/

he has some good links 2

[qasrose]

I'm from Liverpool, and today her family have stores in the centre of liverpool, asking people to support by buying a t-shirt or wrist band etc. now the thing that shocked me was the fact that there using her left eye as a symbol. Somthing is not right with this....!!!

[howie]

Sky News 8:35pm today

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/1592/maddyskynews11aug07bl9.jpg

Screencap HQ (http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/3198/000021ic1.jpg)

[jetta]

This is mentioned a lot in the book "Star Signs" by Linda Goodman. I read this before reading any of David Icke's books, and there is a lot of stuff in this book about the Illuminati, control over the Americans, e.g. something about Nikola Tesla being apparently mudered because he'd discovered an alternative to electricity (if I remember correctly). She also mentions that this symbol is on the $1 bill (I don't know if it still is as I'm not American and I read this book a while ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_horus

[qasrose]

http://www.findmadeleine.com/img/balloons/EYES.JPG

this was taken from the findmadeleine website....


"Today Kate and I did a series of TV interviews for Portuguese and foreign TV. It has always been very important to us that we speak to the Portuguese people directly since we are in their country and have received such tremendous support, particularly from the local community. We again talked about the YouTube channel Don’t You Forget Me which was launched yesterday. Naturally we were also asked about the events of this week, which has been incredibly difficult for us with wild speculation in the media. We have always been told that the police had an open mind about Madeleines abduction and that all scenarios were possible." written by mads parents...."

Ok thats a lie because in our local news paper it said that the Portuguese residence where unhappy that they are over there and that they want the family out of the country as it's brought nothing but bad press.

[intuition]

I notice that there youtube site has been closed down , prob becoz of nasty comments.Everytime i see them both on tv it makes me cringe.It seems like they are doing what they think is normal rather than acting naturally- not that theres a 'normal' way to react to someone dying.Just something isnt right- like when the mother is always holding the teddy.I feel bad for thinking this of them, and i guess that we have to be careful to jump to conclusions but i cant help thinking they are involved- unfortunatley.

[qasrose]

I notice that there youtube site has been closed down , prob becoz of nasty comments.Everytime i see them both on tv it makes me cringe.It seems like they are doing what they think is normal rather than acting naturally- not that theres a 'normal' way to react to someone dying.Just something isnt right- like when the mother is always holding the teddy.I feel bad for thinking this of them, and i guess that we have to be careful to jump to conclusions but i cant help thinking they are involved- unfortunatley.

The other question is though, why would you leave your own child in a hotel room all on there own, and venture out to grab somthing to eat??????? If that happend to any other parents who had kids, they'd get them taken away by child services.

[howie]

more eye-nomalies

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/262/maddyeyevw2.jpg

[splinterg]

How can a change of clothes change a skeptical audience? crazy

http://www.pugbus.net/artman/publish/08127002_11_makeover.shtml

[peachped]

"In an exclusive interview with THEM Weekly scheduled to hit the newsstands on Friday, Kate McCann revealed that she and her husband have contacted Stella McCartney and other top designers, asking them to help repair the McCanns’ tattered sartorial image."

Nothing like getting your priorities right is there? :rolleyes:

[whitelightrabbit]

How can a change of clothes change a skeptical audience? crazy

http://www.pugbus.net/artman/publish/08127002_11_makeover.shtml
makes me want to puke.

[shodan]

"In an exclusive interview with THEM Weekly scheduled to hit the newsstands on Friday, Kate McCann revealed that she and her husband have contacted Stella McCartney and other top designers, asking them to help repair the McCanns’ tattered sartorial image."

That's mad. Sicko's, or the whole thing's a con and she's fine and not missing at all.

[jetta]

There is supposed to be a planet "Pan-Horus" (eye of Horus) which rules the star sign of Taurus. Wasn't Madeleine Mcann's birthday on May 12th? I don't know what that signifies. You have to scroll to the end of the page to find it mentioned here:

http://www.novareinna.com/constellation/taurusplanet.html

[adzboarder]

Sky News 8:35pm today

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/1592/maddyskynews11aug07bl9.jpg

Screencap HQ (http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/3198/000021ic1.jpg)

Wow! Reptilian Children! Crazy notion! but what if it's TRUE?!

[howie]

Google Earth (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=R.+da+Praia,+Lagos,+Faro,+8600+Portugal&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=35.273162,71.015625&ie=UTF8&cd=1&ll=37.088271,-8.727629&spn=0.008678,0.017338&t=k&z=16&iwloc=addr&om=1)

R. da Praia, Lagos, Faro, 8600 Portugal

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/5038/portugalmaddygoogleeartkx1.jpg

[indigo]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770. Dammit! the link I just put up no longer exists, but it clearly shows a child standing behind a car resembling maddie. Wonder why it's been taken off:rolleyes: Her parents were standing infront of the car smiling and the pic was taken about 10 days ago. Did anyone see it?

[adzboarder]

Google Earth (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=R.+da+Praia,+Lagos,+Faro,+8600+Portugal&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=35.273162,71.015625&ie=UTF8&cd=1&ll=37.088271,-8.727629&spn=0.008678,0.017338&t=k&z=16&iwloc=addr&om=1)

R. da Praia, Lagos, Faro, 8600 Portugal

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/5038/portugalmaddygoogleeartkx1.jpg

What's this supposed to be Howie, whats your thinking?

[indigo]

my first thoughts were, if you rotate the image clockwise it loks like a childs head with an eye in the middle.:confused:

[howie]

This is the Daily Mail photo that was deleted from their site:

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/9307/mccannsdm468x444ft9.jpg

[indigo]

This is the Daily Mail photo that was deleted from their site:

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/9307/mccannsdm468x444ft9.jpgThats the one thanks;)

[reptilianshapeshifter]

how you can say that looks like maddie I don't know. My 5 year old aint even that tall.

[notaslave]

COMARE is an independent expert advisory committee with members chosen for their medical and scientific expertise and recruited from Universities, Research and Medical Institutes. Members have never been drawn from the Nuclear or Electrical Power Supply Industries.

The Committee offers independent advice to all Government Departments and Devolved Authorities, not just the Health Departments, and is responsible for assessing and advising them on the health effects of natural and man-made radiation. It is also asked to assess the adequacy of the available data and advise on the need for further research.

COMARE's terms of reference are "to assess and advise Government and the devolved authorities on the health effects of natural and man-made radiation and to assess the adequacy of the available data and the need for further research".

Medical Practices Subcommittee

Chairman: Professor A Elliott

Members:


* Mr L Gabriel
* Dr C J Gibson
* Dr F Gleeson
* Ms Julie Lockhart

* Dr G P McCann
* Dr C Gillian Markham
* Professor M D Mason
* Professor Louise Parker

edit to add source: Committee on Medical Aspects of Radiation in the Environment (http://www.comare.org.uk/comare_members.htm)

[indigo]

how you can say that looks like maddie I don't know. My 5 year old aint even that tall.There was a bit of a facination with it on another forum and it got pulled, then the image got deleted. So yeah I suppose she does look a bit tall now you've mentioned it;)

[splinterg]

Google Earth (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=R.+da+Praia,+Lagos,+Faro,+8600+Portugal&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=35.273162,71.015625&ie=UTF8&cd=1&ll=37.088271,-8.727629&spn=0.008678,0.017338&t=k&z=16&iwloc=addr&om=1)

R. da Praia, Lagos, Faro, 8600 Portugal

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/5038/portugalmaddygoogleeartkx1.jpg

Rotate the whole picture 90 degrees clockwise and notice the Madeleine eye symbol?

[mariag]

it sure looks like a child though , maybe not a 4 year old but still it looks like a child ...

[jetta]

how you can say that looks like maddie I don't know. My 5 year old aint even that tall.

Isn't she standing on those steps that go up to that building?

[reptilianshapeshifter]

look, it could be anything from a person to an image artifact create by the texture of the pillar behind the car. Whatever it is, the image holds no detail to say for sure. Another "face on mars". If you zoom in even only a little bit all you can see are very abstract shadows of a "face" and zooming even even more shows nothing but a blurred image. Whatever it is, it's not Maddie, she's missing remember?

[julieray]

I posted that photgraph on page 39 of this link from the Daily Mail. My view is that they are just playing silly buggars as they have also shown photos of Maddie without the pupil running into the eye too. Anything to sell papers eh?!!

For all of you who do believe in Matthew James' ability, his is of the opinion that she will be returned between 9th August and 8th September, so not much longer now to have to endure this unbearable farce. I don't know what they had hoped to achieve or obtain in their desired effect, but as we all know, those at the very top are corrupt as hell and not very nice people, so don't exhaust any more energy on this and just await her return, as it will undoubted occur before too long.

[infinitetruth]

that pic sure looks like her. She could been standing on a high curb or steps.

[whitelightrabbit]

they have other kids!

[lostinstrangeworld]

It could be her ghost....:(

I hope they find poor Maddy soon.

I think we ought to put our thoughts into Maddy being ok.......Mind over matter.....I'm a believer in the power of the mind; that is why spells and prayer are often shown to work......Enough people's positive thoughts could help conquer the dark side, that is, if she is still alive.

[lostinstrangeworld]

Plus, that picture from google Earth sure is weired!

[mightiswrong]

Praia da Luz original name translated to english is the beach of the church of our lady of light.

[jinjo5]

.....ive took the time to read all the posts on this particular thread....and to be frank...some of you are quite sick and quite insane.
There's a lot of intelligent comments and theories and positivity about maddy.
Thats how it should be,im pig-sick of reading about satanists,numerology and the rest.
Lets keep it real,there's no real evidence for any of the more way out theories.
Everyone's first thoughts should be for the INNOCENT! girl's safety,not all the creepy,sick-minded speculation.

[splinterg]

.....ive took the time to read all the posts on this particular thread....and to be frank...some of you are quite sick and quite insane.
There's a lot of intelligent comments and theories and positivity about maddy.
Thats how it should be,im pig-sick of reading about satanists,numerology and the rest.
Lets keep it real,there's no real evidence for any of the more way out theories.
Everyone's first thoughts should be for the INNOCENT! girl's safety,not all the creepy,sick-minded speculation.

In our society,those who have the best knowledge of
what is happening are also those who are furthest from seeing the world as it is.G.Orwell(1984).

You speak for us all and I rest my case

[qasrose]

.....ive took the time to read all the posts on this particular thread....and to be frank...some of you are quite sick and quite insane.
There's a lot of intelligent comments and theories and positivity about maddy.
Thats how it should be,im pig-sick of reading about satanists,numerology and the rest.
Lets keep it real,there's no real evidence for any of the more way out theories.
Everyone's first thoughts should be for the INNOCENT! girl's safety,not all the creepy,sick-minded speculation.

We are keeping it REAL!!!!., the truth is this is one big massive LIE..!! we are beeing misleaded, so doesn't it seem funny too you that someone would go to this much trouble and create "t-shirts, websites, wristbands, etc"????

How often do other kids go missing???? every single day, do you see parents etc doing the same thing 24/7???? nope I do not see this happing.........

[peter19]

me dad made a good point about this the other day and said the insideous thing with this is its not just like its news its like we are behing force fed something, not this is the news take it or leave it, its almost like they want everyone to have it in there minds for some reason, force fed.

[agate]

We are keeping it REAL!!!!., the truth is this is one big massive LIE..!! we are beeing misleaded, so doesn't it seem funny too you that someone would go to this much trouble and create "t-shirts, websites, wristbands, etc"????

How often do other kids go missing???? every single day, do you see parents etc doing the same thing 24/7???? nope I do not see this happing.........

Right! Now, see if you can change the weather disaster that is happening everywhere all over the world, which probably never happened?;)

[jinjo5]

We are keeping it REAL!!!!., the truth is this is one big massive LIE..!! we are beeing misleaded, so doesn't it seem funny too you that someone would go to this much trouble and create "t-shirts, websites, wristbands, etc"????

How often do other kids go missing???? every single day, do you see parents etc doing the same thing 24/7???? nope I do not see this happing.........
I fully agree,the t-shirt,wristband stuff is all very strange and suspicious.
In fact,the whole matter is strange all-round,from the extreme media coverage to the mcanns behaviour.
But that wasnt my point.
In the middle of all this is a little lass,who must be scared witless(i like to think she's still alive)to say the least.
It was a few of the posts thats been put up on here,why keep putting a foto
up of her showing her slight eye defect.
The posts are tantamount to suggesting that shes some kind of Lizard girl and is marked for torture and sacrifice.nonsense.

[jinjo5]

Right! Now, see if you can change the weather disaster that is happening everywhere all over the world, which probably never happened?;)
I dont think for a moment there is any weather 'disaster'.....its the earth changing naturally.
Aeons ago the WHOLE planet was covered in ice,just cos us humans think we are the greatest thing since the big bang doesnt mean mother earth is going to stop what she does naturally.
sorry for going off topic.;)

[mightiswrong]

I have to say the whole thing stinks something wrotten. Someone mentioned that they sore news coverage with a pyramid pictured. The only pyramid in Luz is some distance from where this happened. It might be that the Mc canns moved some where near there but the pyramid is a large stone pyramid about 10 foot tall and it is on the corner of a very large villa properties garden.

The google earth picture is just a hill with a road leading up it and has a good view on top. They were probably trying to sell it for building but it is too windy on top.

If you look at the official web site they are using a song that starts "look into my eyes". I find it strange that Madelene has this distinctive feature in her iris You know that the UK IPS (identity and passport service) intend to take iris scans from 'UK citizens' as part of their national identity register?

I immediately felt that this was some kind of inside job but when I sore the article in the independent about this suggesting parents could protect their children with..

Any how got to go.
Quickity quick. Microchips.

[trumansho]

How many parents leave there children on there own?

quite a few in this day of age. It's sad to say.

[qasrose]

I fully agree,the t-shirt,wristband stuff is all very strange and suspicious.
In fact,the whole matter is strange all-round,from the extreme media coverage to the mcanns behaviour.
But that wasnt my point.
In the middle of all this is a little lass,who must be scared witless(i like to think she's still alive)to say the least.
It was a few of the posts thats been put up on here,why keep putting a foto
up of her showing her slight eye defect.
The posts are tantamount to suggesting that shes some kind of Lizard girl and is marked for torture and sacrifice.nonsense.

What do you expect???

That is another sick trick adding an effect to the girls eye, how is that going to help find her????.. You see now they've got the message out to the whole freaking world half of the population will believe that maddy is missing and that they hope she is found safe and sound.

And another thing, wtf why did they go all over the world, Maddy went missing in Portugal?? not Liverpool, London or any other place..???

This reminds me alot off the Jamie Bulger murder. back in 1990.

[whitelightrabbit]

If you look at the official web site they are using a song that starts "look into my eyes". I find it strange that Madelene has this distinctive feature in her iris You know that the UK IPS (identity and passport service) intend to take iris scans from 'UK citizens' as part of their national identity register?

thats a good point and probably part of the reason this is being 'force fed' to the populace.

[qasrose]

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/whitesnakeiscool/one.jpg

I know I'm going off topic here and starting somthing else.

Someone posted a thread about the number 3 beeing negitive energy on the 3rd dimension and I was just curios to what I found.

"Picture Above"
Notice how in the picture it is channel 3, then has the year 12/02/03 which 1+2 adds to 3 there is also a 3 in the time too. 15:42:35.. And look at the title MOTHERCARE???? is this strange or wot??? I wonder if MOTHERCARE is the name of the operation, I know it's a shop lol but look at the coinsidence......

[howie]

from Sky News 10 min interview
http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,91210-1279448,.html

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/1592/maddyskynews11aug07bl9.jpg

I've found where she gets it from :eek:

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9606/kate10xr2.jpg

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/4467/katequ6.jpg

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/4545/kate2kz1.jpg

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/6779/kate3ci6.jpg

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/5494/kate4gy9.jpg

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/2170/kate5jf7.jpg

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/866/kate6sm7.jpg

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7729/kate7sk6.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/900/kate8hq1.jpg

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/5349/kate9zk1.jpg



http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/528/41515835ai4.jpg

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8320/10521096nt8.jpg

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/1006/31455368ps4.jpg

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8169/82261002qn5.jpg

The last frame is a split second before they quickly turn the camera back on the interviewer as blue-eyed Kates eyes start turning green.

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/6927/mccannspa468x29315c317eme5.jpg

[qasrose]

from Sky News 10 min interview
http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,91210-1279448,.html

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/1592/maddyskynews11aug07bl9.jpg

I've found where she gets it from :eek:

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9606/kate10xr2.jpg

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/4467/katequ6.jpg

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/4545/kate2kz1.jpg

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/6779/kate3ci6.jpg

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/5494/kate4gy9.jpg

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/2170/kate5jf7.jpg

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/866/kate6sm7.jpg

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7729/kate7sk6.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/900/kate8hq1.jpg

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/5349/kate9zk1.jpg



http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/528/41515835ai4.jpg

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8320/10521096nt8.jpg

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/1006/31455368ps4.jpg

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8169/82261002qn5.jpg

The last frame is a split second before they quickly turn the camera back on the interviewer as blue-eyed Kates eyes start turning green.

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/6927/mccannspa468x29315c317eme5.jpg

awsome images man.... Her mum looks like a reptillian or somthin....

[julieray]

Do you think that perhaps she wears contact lenses because her eyes do appear to be two very different colours???

Very strange indeed!!:confused:

[mcmenek1]

.....ive took the time to read all the posts on this particular thread....and to be frank...some of you are quite sick and quite insane.
There's a lot of intelligent comments and theories and positivity about maddy.
Thats how it should be,im pig-sick of reading about satanists,numerology and the rest.
Lets keep it real,there's no real evidence for any of the more way out theories.
Everyone's first thoughts should be for the INNOCENT! girl's safety,not all the creepy,sick-minded speculation.

Hi jinjo5,

"Lets keep it real"......you say.....what is real jinjo5?......are you referring to the false reality thats been created for us by "The Powers That Be".....we are living in an open air vibrational prison and we are lead to believe from childhood that everything is just so and should be accepted without question.....

anyone that dose question how things are in this false reality are labelled with words similar to the ones you used......are you not jinjo5 in danger of becoming a prison warder unwittingly working for our jailers ready to bash people on the head who dare to raise their heads above the prison walls to peer outside at a different reality.....have you not jinjo5 bought the false reality thats been created for you hook line and sinker......in doing so you cannot see that this case is a mass subconscious programming exercise for the public to keep them locked in the vibrational prison thats been created for them.

"The Powers That Be" understand how the 3RD dimension of duality works vibrationally and they use events like this to manipulate that vibration by attaching negativity to things such as numbers, names and places......this is then used to subconsciously programme us to effect our reality.

Put down your baton jinjo5 and take a look outside of the prison walls......you may be able to help set us free.....

Love
&
Peace

[mr_moon]

I hope you appreciate this i put together- this doesn't ring very well with me so i did this. There is TOO much hype, panic and emphasis on ONE little girl- it's too weird. People go missing ALL the time- why is this child any different?

It's completely Satanic and sick and these monsters WILL be unveiled!!!

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/8707/maddiemasonicek2.jpg

[mcmenek1]

me dad made a good point about this the other day and said the insideous thing with this is its not just like its news its like we are behing force fed something, not this is the news take it or leave it, its almost like they want everyone to have it in there minds for some reason, force fed.

Hi peter19,

Exactly.....they are trying to subconsciously programming us to limit our conscious reality......they are manipulating the natural vibrational balance of the 3rd dimension

Love
&
Peace

[mcmenek1]

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/whitesnakeiscool/one.jpg

I know I'm going off topic here and starting somthing else.

Someone posted a thread about the number 3 beeing negitive energy on the 3rd dimension and I was just curios to what I found.

"Picture Above"
Notice how in the picture it is channel 3, then has the year 12/02/03 which 1+2 adds to 3 there is also a 3 in the time too. 15:42:35.. And look at the title MOTHERCARE???? is this strange or wot??? I wonder if MOTHERCARE is the name of the operation, I know it's a shop lol but look at the coinsidence......

Hi qasrose,

Yes well spotted.....the number 3 itself is not negative....."The Powers That Be" are attaching negative events to the numbers 3, 33, & 333 this upsets the natural balance of the 3rd dimension of duality.....for more information on this see this thread:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1979

Love
&
Peace

[reptilianshapeshifter]

that has to be the biggest load of shite i've seen today (and it is only early). What about all the numbers that don't add up to 3 or the other patterns of 3 the author has missed.

1+5 = 6. 6/2 = 3 , 4+2 = 6, 6/2=3
there's 3 portions of information on the bottom of the screen.

the date isn't 12/02/03, it's 12/02/93, but that doesn't fit the fantasy, so just change it.

[mr_moon]

I hope you appreciate this i put together- this doesn't ring very well with me so i did this. There is TOO much hype, panic and emphasis on ONE little girl- it's too weird. People go missing ALL the time- why is this child any different?

It's completely Satanic and sick and these monsters WILL be unveiled!!!

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/8707/maddiemasonicek2.jpg

There's a lot more to this strangeness than meets the 'eye'...

[qasrose]

that has to be the biggest load of shite i've seen today (and it is only early). What about all the numbers that don't add up to 3 or the other patterns of 3 the author has missed.

1+5 = 6. 6/2 = 3 , 4+2 = 6, 6/2=3
there's 3 portions of information on the bottom of the screen.

the date isn't 12/02/03, it's 12/02/93, but that doesn't fit the fantasy, so just change it.

thanks reptillianshapeshifter

for pointing out my mistake, I forgot to place the 9 instead of 0 my bad lol..

[saturn]

from Sky News 10 min interview
http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,91210-1279448,.html

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/1592/maddyskynews11aug07bl9.jpg

I've found where she gets it from :eek:

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9606/kate10xr2.jpg


http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/1006/31455368ps4.jpg

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8169/82261002qn5.jpg

The last frame is a split second before they quickly turn the camera back on the interviewer as blue-eyed Kates eyes start turning green.

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/6927/mccannspa468x29315c317eme5.jpg

i've always had the strangest feeling about the mother. something about her has never seemed quite right to me. a while ago when the parents fell under suspicion she appeared in a newspaper wearing the sorriest, victim expression, obviously meant to convince everyone that was an innocent, anguished mother and how could she possibly fall under suspicion. for me the more haunted and upset and haggard she looks, the more convinced i am that this whole thing is a farce; the parents are in on it especially the mother. what a contrived performance she gives. there is nothing more fishy in this whole thing than the vibes the mother gives off.

[jinjo5]

that has to be the biggest load of shite i've seen today (and it is only early). What about all the numbers that don't add up to 3 or the other patterns of 3 the author has missed.

1+5 = 6. 6/2 = 3 , 4+2 = 6, 6/2=3
there's 3 portions of information on the bottom of the screen.

the date isn't 12/02/03, it's 12/02/93, but that doesn't fit the fantasy, so just change it.
Absolutely agree rep:...i think its hysterical,talk about making things fit!
Its the single most stupidest post ever put on this site.
Give me strength.

[jinjo5]

from Sky News 10 min interview
http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,91210-1279448,.html

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/1592/maddyskynews11aug07bl9.jpg

I've found where she gets it from :eek:

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9606/kate10xr2.jpg

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/4467/katequ6.jpg

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/4545/kate2kz1.jpg

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/6779/kate3ci6.jpg

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/5494/kate4gy9.jpg

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/2170/kate5jf7.jpg

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/866/kate6sm7.jpg

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7729/kate7sk6.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/900/kate8hq1.jpg

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/5349/kate9zk1.jpg



http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/528/41515835ai4.jpg

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8320/10521096nt8.jpg

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/1006/31455368ps4.jpg

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8169/82261002qn5.jpg

The last frame is a split second before they quickly turn the camera back on the interviewer as blue-eyed Kates eyes start turning green.

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/6927/mccannspa468x29315c317eme5.jpg
..."kates eyes start to turn green"....youre having a laugh now!
Wont be too long before someone spots her lizard tongue.:rolleyes:
some people are getting too ridiculous for words.

[lydia78]

from Sky News 10 min interview
http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,91210-1279448,.html

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/1592/maddyskynews11aug07bl9.jpg

I've found where she gets it from :eek:

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9606/kate10xr2.jpg

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/4467/katequ6.jpg

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/4545/kate2kz1.jpg

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/6779/kate3ci6.jpg

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/5494/kate4gy9.jpg

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/2170/kate5jf7.jpg

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/866/kate6sm7.jpg

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7729/kate7sk6.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/900/kate8hq1.jpg

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/5349/kate9zk1.jpg



http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/528/41515835ai4.jpg

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8320/10521096nt8.jpg

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/1006/31455368ps4.jpg

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8169/82261002qn5.jpg

The last frame is a split second before they quickly turn the camera back on the interviewer as blue-eyed Kates eyes start turning green.

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/6927/mccannspa468x29315c317eme5.jpg



Jinjo5..."kates eyes start to green"....youre having a laugh now!
Wont be too long before someone spots her lizard tongue.
some people are getting too ridiculous for words.
21-08-2007 06:15 AM



I was thinking along the same lines about a different thread, then I saw this. WTF??

May none of you go through what this family are experiencing.

Walk your Love don't just talk it.

[soglad]

There's a lot of reptilian eye clips going around, strange. I'd say it's something to do with lights.

[whitelightrabbit]

her eyes dont look blue in the first frames?

[reptilianshapeshifter]

There's a lot of reptilian eye clips going around, strange. I'd say it's something to do with lights.

im willing to bet if you still frame any video youll find slittly eyes somewhere. could be a compression artefact or anything.

[lydia78]

There's a lot of reptilian eye clips going around, strange. I'd say it's something to do with lights.


The onslaught of reptile footage, (in my opinion) is an attempt to see something which is not actually taking place.
And picking on people who are in their own personal hell just doesn't resonate with compassion nor empathy.
It's all just nasty speculation induced by smoke and mirrors, there's nothing solid in anything I've watched or looked at footage wise.
That poor kid is out there but hey, we're more worried about her 'green' eyed ma....

As for the 'slitted pupil' sequence, I have seen this happen with friends under certain lighting, it's a trick of perception...but each to their own i guess.

[qasrose]

did anyone watch the news today?????? there planning on adding tracking devices to school uniforms blazers.....????

[mada88]

News on Madeline? come this way http://ben-fairhall.blogspot.com/

[magicmerlin]

Today is day 111 - the police have told the family to stay in Portugal because they are very close to big news. With the date at 111, I wonder whether something will be revealed today.

[cf24]

There's a lot of reptilian eye clips going around, strange. I'd say it's something to do with lights.

Im not convinced by these clips at all, and I think people are looking for something that is not there. I know its a sad story, but this has run and run in the media, its getting tiring. I've had friends comment that they are getting fed up of seeing it too.

[mentalogirl]

News on Madeline? come this way http://ben-fairhall.blogspot.com/


Thank you for the link,very interesting blog!

I think it's a bit premature to be accusing the parents.I agree that there's something strange about this whole thing,but it could just be that they are surrounded by manipulators.

[jinjo5]

did anyone watch the news today?????? there planning on adding tracking devices to school uniforms blazers.....????
That is one of the lesser outrageous theories about this maddy case,the government is after putting tracking devices on kids............also,there are now available....'stab-proof school uniforms'.It gets stranger by the week.Incredible.

[lydia78]

That is one of the lesser outrageous theories about this maddy case,the government is after putting tracking devices on kids............also,there are now available....'stab-proof school uniforms'.It gets stranger by the week.Incredible.


This a more likely explanation concerning maddy's disappearence.

It is an opportunity (and distraction) to fit up children with riot gear and tracking devices, won't be long before it's mandatory, along with the id cards, passports with chips, it will then progress to human chipping......it's a part of their process and it's down to us to stop the mad scientists and politicians from materialising this potential nightmare.

[cf24]

This a more likely explanation concerning maddy's disappearence.

It is an opportunity (and distraction) to fit up children with riot gear and tracking devices, won't be long before it's mandatory, along with the id cards, passports with chips, it will then progress to human chipping......it's a part of their process and it's down to us to stop the mad scientists and politicians from materialising this potential nightmare.

I agree, I thought the recent news release regarding the incident in Belgium I think with the DNA and the glass, which turned out not to be hers. I thought for a moment it might reveal her DNA, and then we would see the propaganda machine move into action to get all kids DNA. 'They' are targeting kids in a big way at the moment, tossers.

[mada88]

Have you ever seen the parents cry in public? (in front of the cameras) NO. In an investigation everyone is a suspect so the parents are suspects.
What kind of parents leave three children on there own in a flat? why weren't the twins taken aswell? Its against the law to leave children under 13 I thin on there own in this country, so leaving little kids on there own the police should lock the parents up for just doing that I say.

[lydia78]

Have you ever seen the parents cry in public? (in front of the cameras) NO. In an investigation everyone is a suspect so the parents are suspects.
What kind of parents leave three children on there own in a flat? why weren't the twins taken aswell? Its against the law to leave children under 13 I thin on there own in this country, so leaving little kids on there own the police should lock the parents up for just doing that I say.



I agree, they're leaving the kids alone, their trip to the pope, the trip to the white house is all questionable.
However, the topic here is whether the mother is reptilian, whether the child has been 'marked' out by the dark ones within the illuminati, taken and possibly sacrificed.

I do not believe that is the case, but I do believe that the powers that be have jumped on the bandwagon to accelerate they're mirco-chipping plans for everyone. And they're starting with kids.
Kids who are abducted,
Kids on asbos,
Kids who come out of detention centres....the possiblities go on and on, till they do the same with adults.....which is already happening with volunteers and prisoners etc.

As far as never seeing them cry on tv, it's more likely down to editing.

I just don't think it's credibe to be pointing the finger at someone whose lost a child and calling them a potential rep. It's not helpful. Even if she is, what then?

[adzboarder]

I thought for a moment it might reveal her DNA, and then we would see the propaganda machine move into action to get all kids DNA. 'They' are targeting kids in a big way at the moment, tossers.

Well said. Fucking tossers - leave those kids alone for fucks sake!