View Full Version : Climate change scam exposed in Daily Express
steppewar
02-12-2009, 04:05 AM
I have actually never met ANYONE who believes in man made CO2 climate change.
http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/143573
anthony1965
02-12-2009, 09:10 AM
Worth posting the full article: :)
Conspiracy theorists are often accused of being anti-science when in truth we are against bogus rockefeller science.
Professor Pilmer makes some excellent points.
The only thing missing is the recognition that there has been a good deal of manmade interference that goes way beyond CO2.
The United Nations ENMOD treaty is 40 years old. Time to raise the subject of weather manipulation again in light of technological advances since then.
** Leave the fucking weather alone will ya! ***
THE scientific consensus that mankind has caused climate change was rocked yesterday as a leading academic called it a “load of hot air underpinned by fraud”.
Professor Ian Plimer condemned the climate change lobby as “climate comrades” keeping the “gravy train” going.
In a controversial talk just days before the start of a climate summit attended by world leaders in Copenhagen, Prof Plimer said Governments were treating the public like “fools” and using climate change to increase taxes.
He said carbon dioxide has had no impact on temperature and that recent warming was part of the natural cycle of climate stretching over billions of years.
If you have to argue your science by using fraud, your science is not valid.
Professor Pilmer
Prof Plimer told a London audience: “Climates always change. They always have and they always will. They are driven by a number of factors that are random and cyclical.”
His comments came days after a scandal in climate-change research emerged through the leak of emails from the world-leading research unit at the University of East Anglia. They appeared to show that scientists had been massaging data to prove that global warming was taking place
The Climate Research Unit also admitted getting rid of much of its raw climate data, which means other scientists cannot check the subsequent research. Last night the head of the CRU, Professor Phil Jones, said he would stand down while an independent review took place.
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Professor Plimer said climate change was caused by natural events such as volcanic eruptions, the shifting of the Earth’s orbit and cosmic radiation. He said: “Carbon dioxide levels have been up to 1,000 times higher in the past. CO2 cannot be driving global warming now.
“In the past we have had rapid and significant climate change with temperature changes greater than anything we are measuring today. They are driven by processes that have been going on since the beginning of time.”
He cited periods of warming during the Roman Empire and in the Middle Ages – when Vikings grew crops on Greenland – and cooler phases such as the Dark Ages and the Little Ice Age from 1300 to 1850.
And he predicted that the next phase would cool the planet.
Climate change is widely blamed on the burning of fossil fuels which release greenhouse gases such as CO2 into the atmosphere, where they trap the sun’s heat.
The talks at Copenhagen are expected to find ways to reduce greenhouse gas emissions globally.
But Professor Plimer, of Adelaide and Melbourne Universities, said that to stop climate change Governments should find ways to prevent changes to the Earth’s orbit and ocean currents and avoid explosions of supernovae in space. Of the saga of the leaked emails, he said: “If you have to argue your science by using fraud, your science is not valid.”
The CRU’s Professor Jones has admitted some of the emails may have had “poorly chosen words” and were sent in the “heat of the moment”. But he has categorically denied manipulating data and said he stood by the science. And yesterday he dismissed suggestions of a conspiracy to alter evidence to support a theory of man-made global warming as “complete rubbish”.
But mining geology professor Plimer said there was a huge momentum behind the climate-change lobby.
He suggested many scientists had a vested interest in promoting climate change because it helped secure more funding for research. He said: “The climate comrades are trying to keep the gravy train going. Governments are also keen on putting their hands as deep as possible into our pockets.
“The average person has been talked down to. He has been treated like a fool. Yet the average person has common sense.”
But Vicky Pope, head of Met Office Climate Change Advice, said: “We are seeing changes in climate on a timescale we have not seen before.
“There clearly are natural variations. But the only way we can explain these trends is when we include both man-made and natural changes to the climate.
“We have also seen declines in summer sea ice over the past 30 years, glaciers retreating for 150 years, changing rainfall patterns and increases in subsurface and surface ocean temperatures.”
And as the war of words between the rival camps intensified, leading economist Lord Stern dismissed the sceptics as “muddled”.
Lord Stern, who produced a detailed report on the issue for the Government, said evidence of climate change was “overwhelming”. He accepted that all views should be heard but said the degree of scepticism among “real scientists” was very small
rydeon
02-12-2009, 09:21 AM
Yeah and where it reads 'Leading economist Lord Stern' it puzzles me as to why an economist is being given news-space on a scientific matter.
Real scientists should read 'government funded mouthpieces'.
Sorry to all you globalist climate-nazis but the public are waking up to the scams that have been pulled on the public since the 1990s. :D
runciter
02-12-2009, 09:33 AM
Yeah and where it reads 'Leading economist Lord Stern' it puzzles me as to why an economist is being given news-space on a scientific matter.
Real scientists should read 'government funded mouthpieces'.
Sorry to all you globalist climate-nazis but the public are waking up to the scams that have been pulled on the public since the 1990s. :D
lord stern?
stern is a familiar name to me, there was a violinist called stern.
isaac stern
i just checked wikipedia and noticed that he died on september 22, 2001.
another one
Itzhak Stern - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
anthony1965
02-12-2009, 09:43 AM
lord stern?
stern is a familiar name to me, there was a violinist called stern.
isaac stern
i just checked wikipedia and noticed that he died on september 22, 2001.
another one
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itzhak_Stern
First thing that occurs to me is the Stern Gang. Zionist terrorists who took up arms against the British in WW2 and were prepared to cut a deal with the Germans to achieve their aims. The Stern gang included a future Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir.
Lehi (group) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Lehi (Hebrew pronunciation: [ˈlɛxi], Hebrew acronym for Lohamei Herut Israel, "Fighters for the Freedom of Israel," לח"י - לוחמי חרות ישראל) was an armed underground Zionist group in Mandatory Palestine.[1] Its goal was to forcibly evict the British authorities from Palestine, allowing unrestricted immigration of Jews and the formation of a Jewish state. It was initially called the National Military Organization in Israel.[2] The British called it the Stern Gang, after its founder, Avraham Stern
runciter
02-12-2009, 09:47 AM
First thing that occurs to me is the Stern Gang. Zionist terrorists who took up arms against the British in WW2 and were prepared to cut a deal with the Germans to achieve their aims. The Stern gang included a future Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stern_gang
Lehi (Hebrew pronunciation: [ˈlɛxi], Hebrew acronym for Lohamei Herut Israel, "Fighters for the Freedom of Israel," לח"י - לוחמי חרות ישראל) was an armed underground Zionist group in Mandatory Palestine.[1] Its goal was to forcibly evict the British authorities from Palestine, allowing unrestricted immigration of Jews and the formation of a Jewish state. It was initially called the National Military Organization in Israel.[2] The British called it the Stern Gang, after its founder, Avraham Stern
gosh, how could i forget the stern gang!
rahm emanuel's daddy was a member of this trrst organization, if i'm not mistaken.
edit:
icke on the stern gang etc
The Israeli bully-boys spend most of their time condemning the terrorism of others and yet their very State was created through terrorism of the most grotesque kind via groups like Irgun, Haganah and the Stern Gang, which bombed and terrorised Israel into being and from which came the Israel Defence Forces, the IDF, which is bombing Gaza today.
Among the leading lights in these and other terrorist groups were Menachem Begin, Yitzhak Shamir and Ariel Sharon, butchers who became Israeli Prime Ministers and had the nerve to condemn Arab terrorism. And to this day the butchery goes on with the goal of destroying the Palestinian people.
After the Rothschild-controlled Zionist terrorists had bombed the State of Israel into existence in 1948, an estimated 800,000 Palestinians were made refugees and fled what had been their own country. Their descendents are said to number some four million.
And the world simply looked on - just as it does to this day - because Israel is a law unto itself and so terms like justice, fairness, decency and mercy do not apply.
http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/19027
concordewarrior
02-12-2009, 10:14 AM
lord stern?
stern is a familiar name to me, there was a violinist called stern.
isaac stern
i just checked wikipedia and noticed that he died on september 22, 2001.
another one
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itzhak_Stern
I was a devout follower of violinist Isaac Stern. I went to as many of his concerts as I could. The man was so charming always using a little white handkerchief under his chin while playing his Stradivarius at concerts.
There will not be anymore like him again. RIP Isaac Stern - You are now playing your violin for the angels!
As to global warming, the fact that is a scam is nothing new. This was all made up by hypocrit cheaters and liars such as Al Gore, the Pope of the religion of global warming.
runciter
02-12-2009, 10:34 AM
I was a devout follower of violinist Isaac Stern. I went to as many of his concerts as I could. The man was so charming always using a little white handkerchief under his chin while playing his Stradivarius at concerts.
There will not be anymore like him again. RIP Isaac Stern - You are now playing your violin for the angels!
As to global warming, the fact that is a scam is nothing new. This was all made up by hypocrit cheaters and liars such as Al Gore, the Pope of the religion of global warming.
i don't know him well, i think i have only a cd of him, istomin & rose playing scubert's piano trios.
the percentage of russian (or ukrainian) jews among great 20th century violinists is truly impressive.
now i'm trying to link classical music with climate change in my mind but it's a bit hard :o
ah, i just stumbled upon this article
http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2009/12/prince-william-is-jewish.html
i already knew that diana's mother may have been a rothschild
Princess Diana’s mother is a Rothschild (Jewish), so technically, Prince William is also a Jewish Rothschild by blood. And he, of course, is positioned to be King of England- and hence, many believe the ultimate controller of the entire global secret government/Rothschild Octopus that includes the Committee of 300, M16, the Round Table, the Royal Institute for International Affairs, the CIA, Mossad, the state of Israel, and their myriad corporations, think tanks, intelligence agencies, false business fronts, etc.
http://inpursuitofhappiness.wordpress.com/2008/06/04/princess-dianas-mother-is-a-rothschild/
Hirose's charts of Rothschild intermarriages in his books reveal that the Rothschild syndicate has for centuries extensively intermarried with royal families and nobility globally. He also revealed that Princess Diana's mother was a Rothschild through intermarriages several generations back. It is easy to understand how the ruling elite and London Money Power have shared common interests and goals, since they mutually benefit by forming alliances. And they know elected officials are easy to bribe.
http://www.rense.com/general76/hiro.htm
my justification for this post is that the rothschilds are never off-topic :D
velma
02-12-2009, 10:57 AM
When can we expect to see the perpetrators of this FRAUD to raise TAX arrested and tried in court for extortion, manipulation and theft. Will all the people who have been fined for overfilling their wheelie-bins and for recycling infringements be reimbursed?
bornfree
02-12-2009, 11:01 AM
"But Vicky Pope, head of Met Office Climate Change Advice, said: “We are seeing changes in climate on a timescale we have not seen before."
Is the timescale she is refering to humanity? or her career as a "climatologist"?
If its humanity, then is she ignoring the last ice age, which looks to have happened pretty damn quick, quick enough to trap mammoths upright & perfectly preserve them in the ice sheet.
If the timescale is humanity, she's talking out of her jacksy, if the timescale is the length of her career, she's talking out of her jacksy... :D
steppewar
02-12-2009, 11:33 AM
The below article in The Independent is so full of bullshit it is actually hilarious.
What makes it even more funny is that right at the bottom of this 'Man Made Climate Change Will Kill Us All' article is an advert that states "Switch your Gas & Electricity and save up to £380 with Independent Compare"!!!
You just couldn't make this shit up.
PS, the comments right at the bottom are worth reading, most of them agree man made climate change is a crock of shit. Some even mention the NWO, Bilderberg, Rothschilds, Rockerfellors etc. Has anyone on this forum been leaving comments here?
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/twelve-days-to-save-the-world-1832067.html
allure
02-12-2009, 11:38 AM
THE scientific consensus that mankind has caused climate change was rocked yesterday as a leading academic called it a “load of hot air underpinned by fraud”.
Professor Ian Plimer condemned the climate change lobby as “climate comrades” keeping the “gravy train” going.
Well I don't know about it being rocked. Afterall, this Professor Ian Plimer has always been against man made global warming, he has a book out about it.
Also, his opinion is going to be biased as he is the director of 3 mining companies.
decim
02-12-2009, 03:38 PM
That is because the bastards are using chemtrails & energy weapons like HAARP to cause extreme weather to justify their global climate change armageddonist humans are evil UN lucis trust hate-fest.
"But Vicky Pope, head of Met Office Climate Change Advice, said: “We are seeing changes in climate on a timescale we have not seen before."
loopy2222
02-12-2009, 04:32 PM
PS, the comments right at the bottom are worth reading, most of them agree man made climate change is a crock of shit. Some even mention the NWO, Bilderberg, Rothschilds, Rockerfellors etc. Has anyone on this forum been leaving comments here?
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/twelve-days-to-save-the-world-1832067.html
Brilliant comments! no-one is standing for this shit for once!! :D
anthony1965
07-12-2009, 03:32 PM
Quote:
"But Vicky Pope, head of Met Office Climate Change Advice, said: “We are seeing changes in climate on a timescale we have not seen before."
That is because the bastards are using chemtrails & energy weapons like HAARP to cause extreme weather to justify their global climate change armageddonist humans are evil UN lucis trust hate-fest.
Spot on Decim. The Met Office is part of the MOD. Hardly impartial are they. :rolleyes:
Lucis Trust, which of course was the Lucifer Trust. They do like to leave a lot clues don't they. Like the bad guys in the movies... :p
rodin
07-12-2009, 05:00 PM
lord stern?
stern is a familiar name to me, there was a violinist called stern.
isaac stern
i just checked wikipedia and noticed that he died on september 22, 2001.
another one
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itzhak_Stern
Not forgetting the Stern (Star) Gang
Anders Lindman
07-12-2009, 05:10 PM
Scientists should be made to swear on the Bible before publishing their information. Eh, instead of the Bible maybe Darwin's On the Origin of Species would be more appropriate. :rolleyes: