United Truthism Now!

[woghd]

I've said this elsewhere, but it needs it's own thread.
Take this message back to your other conspiracy boards and help it spread.
Put it in your sigs.
This is IMPORTANT.

We need to all come together.

Alex Jones got arrested yesterday, and we were all collectively referred to as "Anarchists". The NWO has tipped it's hand. They have been playing us all against each other, and when the time comes, we will be labelled "Anarchists" and jailed as such.

We need to stop pushing our favorite flavor of truthism and realize that we are all truthists TOGETHER. I go to all of the various truthism sites from this one to Alex Jones to many others and they are ALL filled with NWO trolls trying to keep us all separated. They FEAR us working together.

Let's not be fools.
UNITED TRUTHISM NOW!

Archangel

[Anders Lindman]

The unification must be built on a network structure or else it would be too vulnerable to attack. Organic growth of the truth movement plus unification through loosely connected information sharing. Not to try to cram all theories into one model but rather to have a vast spectrum of conspiracy theories in a flexible network structure.

[kblood]

I dont see much reason to fear the conspiracies. The reasons that the NWO is not something unravelled that easily is because they do not have set networks. They most likely work seperately, and with all their ranks, they simply know where in the hierachy they all might be. The "leaders" of the NWO might not even know each other, they could simply just be following the flow and clues the others give. They know their common agenda and seperately try to further it.

If the truth movements came together as one, it would be easier to unravel as well. It might be stronger, but also easier to do something about.

[woghd]

I dont see much reason to fear the conspiracies. The reasons that the NWO is not something unravelled that easily is because they do not have set networks. They most likely work seperately, and with all their ranks, they simply know where in the hierachy they all might be. The "leaders" of the NWO might not even know each other, they could simply just be following the flow and clues the others give. They know their common agenda and seperately try to further it.

If the truth movements came together as one, it would be easier to unravel as well. It might be stronger, but also easier to do something about.

Oh yes, let's keep quibbling amongst ourselves, the NWO isn't organized, yeah...um..Noooooooooooooooooooo. You gotta be kidding me.

We need to come together OR WE ARE ALL DEAD.

Archangel

[dondaz]

The sheeple always forget!

[kblood]

Oh yes, let's keep quibbling amongst ourselves, the NWO isn't organized, yeah...um..Noooooooooooooooooooo. You gotta be kidding me.

We need to come together OR WE ARE ALL DEAD.

Archangel

Hmmm... There are quite a few more players in the game than the NWO. They are bound to fail, but you seem to havent realised this yet. I am not saying to give up, but to despair certainly only makes it worse for yourself.

I do not think you understand what I meant with what I wrote. I am saying they are not likely to be communicating with each other about everything they do, because their agenda is quite known, and they should be powerfull enough, each and every one of them, to further that agenda without directly communicating with the other members.

Problem for them is most of all that they need everything to be kept secret, and secrets just have a way of being found out. That is only a matter of time. Another thing is that the things they are trying to hide in the NWO, are things that is going to become very known.

The future isnt one they are going to like much. Even if they succeed at world domination, it will be short lived. When they succeed with it, it will be that much more likely that they will be facing a revolution, and it will be much more obvious who "they" are. There are things so powerfull that the NWO cannot hope to control it or them, and that will prove to be part of their downfall.

Do you seriously believe that the NWO agenda is to have us all dead? As I see it, they might have ensured a few million more peoples lives lost, but in the future we are facing, there could be billions of lives lost. Which will solve quite a few of the problems we are facing... just to look at the bright side of it :rolleyes:

Hopefully we will learn from our mistakes after that, even though many of the mistakes are probably due to NWO misinformation.

Another thing... I never said the NWO wasnt organised.. I said they did not have "networks". They are following aeon old agendas, and therefore do not need global networks of constant information, rather they just need global networks of disinformation. In this disinformation they probably know what to look for, to find whatever they need to know. Problem for them is that everyone else might find it as well.

[kblood]

And if you didnt notice yet, the truth movement is getting more and more "organised". The thing is that all we need is to make people aware of it, and then there is not really anything to fight. Words are much more powerfull when fighing the NWO, and that is why the NWO tries to control the media and the Internet. Seems they just did not foresee the Internet getting so big, so fast. Also I do believe they thought the information on the Internet to be easier controlable...

But still... what exactly is it that you are proposing, and why exactly do you fear we will all die?

[woghd]

I was speaking of a metaphorical death (at least for the most part), as in "we are all dead in the water" I'm pretty sure they have a depopulation plan on their list, and I also am pretty sure they will not hesitate to kill dissidents or "anarchists".

There are a lot of trolls in every truthism forum I'm a member of (and I get a membership in every one I can find) and the biggest change I've seen in the last month is an influx of disruptive trolls, all with sigs advertising competeing truthism forums. They are rude, argumentative, disinformative, but above all else, DIVISIVE, attacking the beliefs of whatever forum they are on, zeroing in on the really controversial stuff. (for us, it's reptilians) dividing not just one truthism forum from another, but also dividing truthism forums from within.

Having watched this, I'm convinced it is a concerted effort to divide us all. Alex Jones gets arrested, and we are all collectively described as "anarchists".

WE HAVE GOT TO COME TOGETHER AS UNITED TRUTHISTS!!
WE HAVE GOT TO DO IT RIGHT NOW !!

Archangel

[Anders Lindman]

It can be a good idea to have a common target. Regardless of whether people think "It's the Jews", "It's the Freemasons", "It's the Jesuits", or it's the this or that, we can all have a common main target even though our other targets may differ in many ways. I suggest we have the Federal Reserve as the main target. Key here is to focus on fractional reserve banking, and concretely fractional reserve banking in relation to the Federal Reserve. Chopping the head of the debt monster will have a major impact. After that other targets can be chosen, but as Aaron Russo said, first focus on the Federal Reserve.

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

Why does everybody make such a huge deal out of anarchism?

What's so wrong with anarchism?

[lifeofbrian]

People are coming together, through forums etc. And they get together with their friends and in whatever communities they belong to IRL and start asking others if they think the governments are listening to the people whom they/gov'ments supposedly work for. And other people begin to think and notice, voicing their observations.

People coming together physically are also very easy to round up. Just a reminder. Keep it chilled.

One of the reasons people in general are not too keen on the idea of anarchism right now, at this point in time, is because most people see everybody else as stupid.

'No rulers' means being able to trust people to be mature enough to make decisions for themselves, and themselves only, not listen to any powertripping Tom, Dick, or Hillary, or try to become a 'ruler' themselves.

Empowering people through information and personal support and friendship is a slower process but sometimes long-term plans are worthwhile because they last.

[woghd]

I would like to see a "Truthism Summit" where the various leaders of truthism groups come together and show the world that we are NOT a bunch of crazies, but are indeed level headed people with legitimate issues!

Archangel

[lifeofbrian]

I would like to see a "Truthism Summit" where the various leaders of truthism groups come together and show the world that we are NOT a bunch of crazies, but are indeed level headed people with legitimate issues!

Archangel

Sounds like a good idea. All they have to do is stop calling each other agents and liars and go for it.

[ninja17]

i dont mind being called anarchist or sumthing so freaking frigthening else..but that term makes us standing in some wrong ligth for people that dont have no clue yet.

Truthist:rolleyes: sounds strange i know but its may be a catcher for other open minded people.

pce

[celtic isis]

I've said this elsewhere, but it needs it's own thread.
Take this message back to your other conspiracy boards and help it spread.
Put it in your sigs.
This is IMPORTANT.

We need to all come together.

Alex Jones got arrested yesterday, and we were all collectively referred to as "Anarchists". The NWO has tipped it's hand. They have been playing us all against each other, and when the time comes, we will be labelled "Anarchists" and jailed as such.

We need to stop pushing our favorite flavor of truthism and realize that we are all truthists TOGETHER. I go to all of the various truthism sites from this one to Alex Jones to many others and they are ALL filled with NWO trolls trying to keep us all separated. They FEAR us working together.

Let's not be fools.
UNITED TRUTHISM NOW!

Archangel

FANTASTIC woghd my friend! I'm in a kicking ass mood today! (and pretty much everyday lol)

:D

[celtic isis]

People are coming together, through forums etc. And they get together with their friends and in whatever communities they belong to IRL and start asking others if they think the governments are listening to the people whom they/gov'ments supposedly work for. And other people begin to think and notice, voicing their observations.

People coming together physically are also very easy to round up. Just a reminder. Keep it chilled.

One of the reasons people in general are not too keen on the idea of anarchism right now, at this point in time, is because most people see everybody else as stupid.

'No rulers' means being able to trust people to be mature enough to make decisions for themselves, and themselves only, not listen to any powertripping Tom, Dick, or Hillary, or try to become a 'ruler' themselves.

Empowering people through information and personal support and friendship is a slower process but sometimes long-term plans are worthwhile because they last.

yep anarchism is the thing that keeps the NWO with its grip on the sheeple, they think we're all anarchists which WE'RE NOT!

fucking illuminati they're too clever.

[ninja17]

you know,

on this "truthist"-site http://www.iamthewitness.com/Alex-Jones-summary.html they are pretty against that alex jones cat saying his mother is a high horse in the media bizz and he is not giving the total truth and hiding information n shit,blaming the us instead of them zionists,pretty hard stuff..check out them audio files,speeches from freedman also.

pce

[kadamose]

yep anarchism is the thing that keeps the NWO with its grip on the sheeple, they think we're all anarchists which WE'RE NOT!

fucking illuminati they're too clever.

Hey, I'm an anarchist and PROUD of it. You should be too, because anarchy is the only representation of TRUE FREEDOM. Why should ANYONE follow rules that are made by someone else? 'True' anarchy is about doing whatever the hell you please, as long as you do not harm anyone. The Illuminati love to bash Anarchy because they know what it truly stands for, and they want people to be afraid of it - and if they do become afraid of it, they will learn to resent it...just like you are doing now.

[celtic isis]

Hey, I'm an anarchist and PROUD of it. You should be too, because anarchy is the only representation of TRUE FREEDOM. Why should ANYONE follow rules that are made by someone else? 'True' anarchy is about doing whatever the hell you please, as long as you do not harm anyone. The Illuminati love to bash Anarchy because they know what it truly stands for, and they want people to be afraid of it - and if they do become afraid of it, they will learn to resent it...just like you are doing now.

hello hun!

nope i don't like anarchy cause i think the human race does have to be ruled, otherwise we'd have to wipe most people out and restart with re-educating people with the esoteric knowldge etc so that everyone would grow up to be wise, tolerant and noble lol

humanity needs to be ruled, but not by some elite satanist bastards by people choosen by the people for the people...which is what America is meant to be and look at their example LOL :D

anarchy would mean chaos the way the human mentality is now.

[celtic isis]

and people are selfish so anarchy would be the most selfish and finally the most fascist society in the end..people would use the freedom for their own gain only but without any of the laws that protect us slightly as individuals now, our personal safety sort of thing...

people who don't want rules are just selfish people, you have to have rules so that things can be fair for everyone.

anarchy is not about doing whatever the hell you please without harming anyone because wihtout harming anyone WOULD BE A RULE OR A CLAUSE ALREADY!!!!


HAH!

[kadamose]

and people are selfish so anarchy would be the most selfish and finally the most fascist society in the end..people would use the freedom for their own gain only but without any of the laws that protect us slightly as individuals now, our personal safety sort of thing...

people who don't want rules are just selfish people, you have to have rules so that things can be fair for everyone.

anarchy is not about doing whatever the hell you please without harming anyone because wihtout harming anyone WOULD BE A RULE OR A CLAUSE ALREADY!!!!


HAH!

True Anarchy is NOT chaos. True anarchy is what communism should have been, but wasn't. It's called Anarchist Communism. Which means:

Anarchist communism advocates the abolition of the State and capitalism in favor of a horizontal network of voluntary associations, workers' councils and/or commons through which everyone will be free to satisfy their needs.

What distinguishes anarchist communism from other variants of libertarian communism is the former's opposition to all forms of political power, hierarchy and domination.

Basically, it's all about self-rule, but at the same time, caring about the species as a whole. It's a 'you scratch my back, and I'll scratch yours' kind of relationship - the way it was always meant to be.

[celtic isis]

True Anarchy is NOT chaos. True anarchy is what communism should have been, but wasn't. It's called Anarchist Communism. Which means:

Anarchist communism advocates the abolition of the State and capitalism in favor of a horizontal network of voluntary associations, workers' councils and/or commons through which everyone will be free to satisfy their needs.

What distinguishes anarchist communism from other variants of libertarian communism is the former's opposition to all forms of political power, hierarchy and domination.

Basically, it's all about self-rule, but at the same time, caring about the species as a whole. It's a 'you scratch my back, and I'll scratch yours' kind of relationship - the way it was always meant to be.

ok well that sounded good, the "opposition to all forms of political power, hierarchy and domination" bit, and that is how it should be...

but the Anarchist Communism is not real anarchy it is just Communism, and communism is just a variation of capitalism...the only difference is who the capital belongs to and how it is used.

I really don't think anarchy=freedom, it's more like freedom for the "strongest people" which makes it a form of Darwinism, survival of the fittest...

You have to make a difference between a Utopia and real life, reality/world in which we live in.

To think that human beings would look after eachother without any law, any rules without taking advantage and without being taught how to live this way...and if they're taught to live this way, it's no longer total freedom cause after they would be obliged to live this way and what would happen if they didn't want to? Someone would have to make them otherwise there would be chaos and uproar.

If you want to think about the best way to live in this world you have to take the benefits, the best points of all the theories that exist up to now, the experience of all the political history up to now to develop something new...because all that exists now is from the elite, it's their system/structure therefore it can't the best and isn't the best for us.

:confused:

[seanx]

Anarchy of whatever type would be a disaster.

What we really need is benign, enlightened leadership.

Look at the health service.

Now I know fuck all about how to run a health service.

Yet, when it comes to deciding how to run it - I ( and everybody
here does) get a vote in the General election in deciding how it
should be run.

By voting for one of different parties with all their different ideas on
how to do it.

And yet - none of us is QUALIFIED or has a clue how
to run an optimum health service. Yet we all have a say in what
should be done ( the blind leading the blind?)

But we say we must because it is demoracy.

Would it be a better idea if, as a society we selected 200 of the best,
most DECENT, HONOURABLE EXPERTS in the health care- people
who ACTUALLY know something about it - and let them collectively run
the health service - and NOT let the politicans ( or us the general public
next or near it.

The idea of benign, enlightended leadership - which could be applied
to all the main areas of activity.

[yinon]

My truthism:::


Grey aliens are everywhere and operate through religious freaks. They are allergic to LOVE.

Push them away in teaching true love

[synergy777]

what we need is the philosopher king model, a true democracy, based on talent not bloodlines/family ties/oxbridge-ivy league.

[woghd]

Sounds like a good idea. All they have to do is stop calling each other agents and liars and go for it.

This is WHY we must ALL go back to our other truthism boards and SPREAD THIS IDEA!

Stop bashing other truthers! Stop calling each other agents and liars. Correct rude people on boards who behave this way. The people doing all the name calling and bashing on these truthism boards are the ones who should be scrutinized.

When you see this behaviour, point it out and condemn it. Add UNITED TRUTHISM NOW to your sigs! This will catch on if we truly want it to.

Otherwise we are divided, and the NWO has already won.

Archangel

[teslafire]

For a minute there I thought you said truthiness...

[thetonic]

Well since this thread has been re-hashed (did i say hash?:D) then i will give my two bits... The idea of truth is a divine concept based upon the assumption that there is only one answer to every question/problem etc. - and that is THE TRUTH. and every other possible soloution/idea/concept would be false.. This is so hard for me to grasp ... I think we need a deeper understanding of what truth actually is , and how we create TRUTH..

For example 911 truth - there are many alternative ideas as to how it went down, but do they all agree with eachother? ... Do the ones who orchestrated this mess even agree with how it was done?...

So many questions to answer...

Im done rambling

:confused:

[woghd]

Now that this kid has been tasered, perhaps the truthism leaders could make a joint statement of some kind. Perhaps it will help our democrat freinds understand that all people are not holy just because they are against Bush. I have a feeling that if it had been a kid speaking up against the president, the students would be cheering the guy. The NWO does not recognize political party lines!

People need to understand that the entire election was a FALSE CHOICE, which is of course exactly what the tasered student was trying to get across.

WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER AS TRUTHISTS!

Archangel