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ben black
26-11-2009, 02:44 PM
OK - I haven't mentioned this on here but it is something that I have had in my head for 30 years now. I'll explain what it is and you can draw your own conclusions.

When I was 5, my younger brother ( who was 3 then), my mum and me lived in a small bungalow on a small estate that backed onto an active airbase. We were in the corner plot with high hedgrows to the side and back.
On occassion, my aunt would come over to visit, bringing my cousin who is 6 months younger. On this particular day, they came to visit. It was towards the end of summer, warm and my cousin and me were on the small patch of lawn at the front of the house. At some point in the playing, me and my cousin had an arguement and I hit him. His crying brought my mum and aunt out and I was sent to my mums bedroom with a smacked arse. ( everything to this point is fact - what follows is the cloudy part)

While in the bedroom ( on the ground floor looking out to the front), I was stood watching my cousin playing with my toys when all of a sudden, some kind of craft swooped down in a U manouvre, bottoming at about 2 meters above my cousins head and pulled up and shot back up, narrowly missing the hedgerows. My cousin screamed and covered his head with his hands, dropping to his knees. I ran into the living room shouting that a plane just missed Chris. My mum and aunt ran outside and he was laid on the ground crying. My mum asked me again what happened and I said a plane had just missed him. She asked him and he said something nearly got him. Everyone went back inside and nothing more was said about it to me or my cousin.

I still see this whole episode clear as day. As we lived next to the raf base, I was used to seeing harriers, sea-king helicopters and those red and white training jets. The thing I "saw" was none of these. It was shaped like a flattened oval, fat part being the front, no wings, shiny silver, like chrome, with a very large windscreen. There was 1 pilot and 5 others all with clip boards - 2 directly behind the pilot and 3 in a row behind them. They were all in orange flight suits and white helmets. The craft was almost silent apart from a quiet whistling sound that then became a quiet "windrush" as it pulled up from the swoop.

As I say - I see this absolutely clearly.

I tried to write this off as a dream for a few reasons. First, the manouvre would be impossible. Second, I doubt that I would have any chance of seeing inside any craft - nevermind for long enough to know how many "people" were in it, what they wore, how the seats were arranged and that they had clipboards.

On several occassions, I have asked my cousin if he remembers this. He says he remembers something just missing his head but, as he had his back to it during the swoop, he didn't see it. He just felt it and has no idea how big it was or anything.
My mum remembers the incident but says we were just playing. She said she cannot remember me saying a plane had just missed Chris, but she remembers me asking her on a few occassions afterwards if she remembers the plane incident.

I guess this was a dream I may have had when I was sent to her bedroom immediately after hitting my cousin.
I just cannot help thinking, 30 years on, that it was something more. I have no other dreams that have stuck with me.

passing
26-11-2009, 05:53 PM
If your cousin remembers it, even just as 'something', then 'something' happened, you didn't just dream it.

ben black
27-11-2009, 02:30 PM
See - that's the thing. My cousin remembers something but did not see anything ( maybe me asking him if he remembers it has implanted some sort of false memory)

My mum cannot remember the incident but she does remember me asking about it afterwards. ( surely you'd remember if your 5 year old kid came running in shouting that a plane had just missed your 5 year old cousin ?)

90% of me says it was just a dream. The other 10% just will not let it go - regardless of how impossible it is and regardless of the fact the no-one else can verify what I think happened.

I don't go for things like regressive hypnotherapy but I'd love the chance to find out IF anything really did happen.

1964
30-11-2009, 06:48 AM
See - that's the thing. My cousin remembers something but did not see anything ( maybe me asking him if he remembers it has implanted some sort of false memory)

My mum cannot remember the incident but she does remember me asking about it afterwards. ( surely you'd remember if your 5 year old kid came running in shouting that a plane had just missed your 5 year old cousin ?)

90% of me says it was just a dream. The other 10% just will not let it go - regardless of how impossible it is and regardless of the fact the no-one else can verify what I think happened.

I don't go for things like regressive hypnotherapy but I'd love the chance to find out IF anything really did happen.

First off, I wouldn't involve myself in things like "hypno-therapy". There are lying, denomic spirits in this world, and people need to stop doing everything they can to open themselves up even further to these powers. People need to repent of their sins, where having been born again in Christ, they can now wage war and be victorious against the devil and his demons. Apart from Christ, there's no one who stands a chance.

I've had many dreams about war over the last 5 years. In several of these dreams, the airplanes looked more like "ufo's" to me. They were shaped different than any plane I'd ever seen. And like you said, the maneuvers they were capable of seemed impossible. I know nothing about planes, so I looked to see what was out there besides your average commercial airplanes. Here are pictures of some of the planes I found. Some of these never made it past the prototype phase or testing phase, but it's still a good indicator of what they've been working on all these years.

This is the VZ-9AV Avrocar, built for the U.S. Military by Avro Aircraft Ltd. Canada. First test flight was in 1959; in 1961 the funding ran out. So they say?

http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp85/zlingshot/airplanes/Colour_avrocar_59.jpg

This is the SR-71 Blackbird, built by Lockheed Aircraft Corporation.

http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp85/zlingshot/airplanes/Lockheed_SR-71_Blackbird.jpg

F-117 Nighthawk, built by Lockheed Martin. First flight in 1981.

http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp85/zlingshot/airplanes/nhawk5.jpg

B-2 Spirit, built by Northrop Corporation. First flight in 1989.

http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp85/zlingshot/airplanes/B-2_Spirit_original.jpg

P-175 Polecat, built by Lockheed Martin. Allegedly, only one was ever built. It crashed in 2007. Was first flown "in secret" in 2005.

http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp85/zlingshot/airplanes/Tacit_Blue_in_flight.jpg

RQ-3A Darkstar, built by Lockheed Martin/Boeing. First flight in 1996.

http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp85/zlingshot/airplanes/DarkStar_Tier_III.jpg

Bird of Prey, built by McDonnell Douglas/Boeing. First flight in 1996. Retired in 1999.

http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp85/zlingshot/airplanes/Boeing_Bird_of_Prey_USAF.jpg

SR-91 Aurora. Oddly, it's only speculated as to which company was contracted to build this particular aircraft.

http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp85/zlingshot/airplanes/Aurora_x-plane_3.jpg

V-173 "Flying Pancake", built by Vought. Allegedly, only one was built and it wasn't a success.

http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp85/zlingshot/airplanes/v-173_zimmer_skimmer.jpg

http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp85/zlingshot/airplanes/V-173atCapeCod-599x505.jpg

ben black
18-02-2010, 09:35 AM
OMG!

I was just reading this (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8520486.stm) article on the BBC website about the latest release of UFO docs from the MOD and the first pic of 7 that are included was of something that is pretty much what I "saw" - except mine had 6 passengers inside. Same shape with large screen .

The one described in the MOD docs was in 1993 ( 13 years after mine) and seen by a passenger on a flight from Heathrow to Hong Kong.

Strange.