View Full Version : Sodium Fluoride in toothpaste
serpentoffire
09-09-2007, 08:19 PM
DO NOT USE THESE PRODUCTS !!!
These product have sodium fluoride inside. This substance blocks the 6th chakra and by consequence the kundalini. They want to cure us!!!
http://picnic.ciao.com/it/562725.jpg
http://italiasalute.leonardo.it/imgfarma/grandi/az%20tartar%20ultra%20white.jpg
Silica, aqua, sorbitol, glycerin, PEG-6, tetrasodium pyrophosphate, sodium bicarbonate, sodium lauryl sulfate, poloxamer 407, aroma, carnauba (Copernicia cerifera), wax, citric acid, potassium sorbate, sodium benzoate, sodium carbonate, cellulose gum, sodium fluoride, sodium saccharin, titanium dioxide, CI 42090, CI 19140. Contiene: Pirofosfato 3,3%. Fluoruro di sodio 0,32%.
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lookfar
09-09-2007, 08:29 PM
Hi serpentoffire
I gave up using normal toothpaste nearly a year ago, when I discovered how bad it is. I find that this one (available online or from health food shops), is an excellent replacement, as it contains only natural ingredients. They also do a childrens one too.
Aloe Dent Toothpaste (http://www.optimah.com/shop/categories.asp?id=6)
serpentoffire
09-09-2007, 08:50 PM
I'm using this one:
http://nden.net/wishlist/elmex.JPG
chris
09-09-2007, 09:03 PM
I use kingfisher, flouride free.
21_12_2012
09-09-2007, 09:22 PM
Hi serpentoffire
I gave up using normal toothpaste nearly a year ago, when I discovered how bad it is. I find that this one (available online or from health food shops), is an excellent replacement, as it contains only natural ingredients. They also do a childrens one too.
Aloe Dent Toothpaste (http://www.optimah.com/shop/categories.asp?id=6)
I use this stuff too.
My dad once asked a dentist what he uses to clean his teeth with...
His answer was....SALT WATER...:)
lottie
09-09-2007, 09:36 PM
Yep- Lookfar converted me to Aloe Dent ( i never knew it even existed) and although slightly pricey, well worth it to not have my mouth burnt to buggery by a load of chemicals everymorning, brushing is a much more pleasant experience!! They also have a mouthwash too!! :D
also varieties of the paste- ie; whitening, sensitive, original etc....
we love it in my house!! :D <-------see look how great my teeth look!!!LOL!!!
phoebe
10-09-2007, 01:37 AM
Kingfisher is good but tastes like shit imo.
Sarakan is my fave.
Before I was clued up about fluoride
And was using the usual brands (Colgate etc)
My daughter (before the age of 5-6)
Had 3 teeth filled.
Since then (now age 11)
Not a single filling or problem tooth.
So much for fluoride preventing cavities :rolleyes:
smariot
10-09-2007, 04:24 AM
What about a paste made from baking soda and 3% hydrogen peroxide?
It looks interesting, but my bottle of H2O2 has a big scary skull and cross bones on it. I'm not sure if its because of the H2O2 itself, or because of the stabilizers that are in there to keep it from breaking down into water and oxygen. They're probably not that good, but then again, the labels on toothpaste and mouthwash generally warn you to contact poison control if you swallow it anyway, so which is worse?
Should probably find some food grade H2O2 and dilute it, but I don't know where I'd look for that.
LasseMaja
10-09-2007, 01:22 PM
I use the Forever living aloe toothpaste. Very fresh and flouride free. A little expensive but hey...
cheesedanish
10-09-2007, 01:35 PM
What did people use to clean their teeth in the 'old days'
before Fluoride toothpaste?
phoebe
11-09-2007, 01:37 PM
Baking powder.
friendsinthesky
19-09-2007, 06:04 AM
What about a paste made from baking soda and 3% hydrogen peroxide?
...not a bad idea smariot.
I've been using Bi-Carb baking soda for 2yrs. My teeth actually feel good.
I simply wet the tooth brush, shake off excess water, dip the brush into baking soda, then brush away as per usual. (rinse mouth)
As for hydrogen peroxide. Providing it's for oral intake, you can have a strength of 33%, put 2drops into glass of water and drink. (if anyone considers this, I strongly recommend you do some research). I could buy/arrange 33% hydrogen peroxide through a local chemist 2yrs back. Today, due to terrorist laws, it's almost impossible. (3% can be purchased in supermarkets, I'm not sure if it's suitable for oral intake)
real6
03-10-2007, 03:56 PM
what i do every morn is take a cup and pour some baking soda then some peroxide in it and mix it around till its a paste. thats my toothpaste. and i use peroxide as mouth wash
mountain
04-10-2007, 07:16 PM
Baking soda for me, too. I hear there is a toothpast available WITHOUT flouride but haven't found it.
synak
04-10-2007, 08:11 PM
Baking soda for me, too. I hear there is a toothpast available WITHOUT flouride but haven't found it.
I've only seen them online, but not in any stores as of yet.
http://www.theremustbeabetterway.co.uk/Products/Personal_Care/Organic_Fluoride_Free_Toothpaste.htm
smashstuff
05-10-2007, 08:22 AM
You need to go to a health food store to find fluoride free toothpaste. What I've sometimes used is just Olive Oil Soap. Tastes weird at first, but does the job, and is cheap as chips. Just wet your toothbrush and rub it on the bar. No fluoride there!
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/8664/oliveoilsoapth8.jpg
montag
05-10-2007, 09:07 AM
what i do every morn is take a cup and pour some baking soda then some peroxide in it and mix it around till its a paste. thats my toothpaste. and i use peroxide as mouth wash
Judging by the look of your teeth real6 I'd consider another option..:D
smariot
06-10-2007, 04:35 PM
...not a bad idea smariot.
I've been using Bi-Carb baking soda for 2yrs. My teeth actually feel good.
I simply wet the tooth brush, shake off excess water, dip the brush into baking soda, then brush away as per usual. (rinse mouth)
As for hydrogen peroxide. Providing it's for oral intake, you can have a strength of 33%, put 2drops into glass of water and drink. (if anyone considers this, I strongly recommend you do some research). I could buy/arrange 33% hydrogen peroxide through a local chemist 2yrs back. Today, due to terrorist laws, it's almost impossible. (3% can be purchased in supermarkets, I'm not sure if it's suitable for oral intake)
I think it has extra junk in it to keep it from decomposing into water and oxygen, but for what its worth, I accidentally drank a mouthful of the stuff, thinking it was water. Despite the skull on the bottle, I'm still alive. Or I totally killed myself and I'm running around in denial refusing to accept my fate. But either way, it was pretty exciting. Nothing gets your heart racing like the realization that you just set some event in motion that is supposed to kill you.
phildee3
06-10-2007, 06:20 PM
Weleda
catfood
06-10-2007, 10:13 PM
What about the fluoride and other chemicals in the water
http://www.geocities.com/Northstarzone/FLUORIDE.html
http://www.fluoridealert.org/
http://www.fluorideaction.net/health/brain/
http://www.fluorideaction.net/health/brain/
Iv herd a reverse osmosis filter is the best way of dealing with them but ther expensive, Any alternatives?
http://www.waterfiltersonline.com/
http://www.watercoolersdirect.com/specialist_water_systems/reverse_osmosis.html?gclid=CNKbt9aX-44CFQxZMAodVQ14wA
serpentoffire
06-10-2007, 10:26 PM
Do you know if amine fluorurate is neurotoxic?
de_shit
07-10-2007, 01:21 AM
I talked to my orthodontist about fluoride and he went ape shit on me, but he did tell me about baking soda. He basically told me fluoride was "better than baking soda" and he got extra heated when I told him about fluoride being used in the water in Hitlers camps. I can thank Icke for that info. I bet the dentist felt dumb as hell dude.
whitenight639
07-10-2007, 03:18 AM
I talked to my orthodontist about fluoride and he went ape shit on me, but he did tell me about baking soda. He basically told me fluoride was "better than baking soda" and he got extra heated when I told him about fluoride being used in the water in Hitlers camps. I can thank Icke for that info. I bet the dentist felt dumb as hell dude.
your dentist is a dentist not a chemist,
Here FLOURINE (from wikipedia)
Pure fluorine (F2) is a corrosive pale yellow or brown[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorine#_note-0) Gas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that is a powerful Redox - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia agent. It is the most reactive and most electronegative of all the elements (4.0), and readily forms compounds with most other elements. Its oxidation number is a constant, at -1. Fluorine even combines with the Noble gas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, Krypton - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, Xenon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, and Radon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Even in dark, cool conditions, fluorine reacts explosively with Hydrogen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. It is so reactive that Metal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, and even Water - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, as well as other substances, burn with a bright flame in a jet of fluorine gas. It is far too reactive to be found in elemental form. In moist air it reacts with water to form also-dangerous Hydrofluoric acid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flourine
ok so sodium flouride used in toothpastes isnt flourine, we know this but if there is some chemical proccess in the body that could split sodium flouride into flourine then there would be no other element on earth that could reverse the damage.
Soudium Flouride (as used in toothpaste)
is classified toxic by the EU
Hazards EU classification (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directive_67/548/EEC) Toxic (T)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_flouride
And heres the MSDS (safety sheet) for dihydrogen hexaflourosillicate (used for water flourination)
Toxicology
Corrosive - causes burns. Harmful by ingestion, inhalation and through skin contact. May be fatal if swallowed. May cause serious eye damage. Risk phrases
(The meaning of any risk phrases which appear in this section is given here.) (http://ptcl.chem.ox.ac.uk/MSDS/risk_phrases.html)
R20 R21 R22 R34 R41.
http://ptcl.chem.ox.ac.uk/MSDS/DI/dihydrogen_hexafluorosilicate.html
now you know why most pets dont drink tap water!
kha zarr
07-10-2007, 06:04 AM
im surprised dentists arent educated about this. Well I should be fair to wholistic dentists. But most think its great, or maybe the system forces them into promoting it. Never mind how fluoride got into public water in the first place... theres an article called 'water fluoridation and crime in america' google it. the pdf didnt come up earlier for some reason maybe its my browser.
http://fluoridationisforcedmedication.blogspot.com/
http://www.ioniczone.com/fluoride-good-or-bad-s/159.htm
http://www.lafn.org/~ax810/fluoride/Fluor101.htm
best ways to cleanse it, i dunno. good solutions are hard to find. maybe mineral clay. i dunno.
bad ol' fluoride.
kha zarr
07-10-2007, 06:07 AM
double post. woops must be that fluoride in my brain....nah im just tired.
whitenight639
07-10-2007, 06:18 AM
im surprised dentists arent educated about this. Well I should be fair to wholistic dentists. But most think its great, or maybe the system forces them into promoting it. Never mind how fluoride got into public water in the first place... theres an article called 'water fluoridation and crime in america' google it. the pdf didnt come up earlier for some reason maybe its my browser.
http://fluoridationisforcedmedication.blogspot.com/
http://www.ioniczone.com/fluoride-good-or-bad-s/159.htm
http://www.lafn.org/~ax810/fluoride/Fluor101.htm (http://www.lafn.org/%7Eax810/fluoride/Fluor101.htm)
best ways to cleanse it, i dunno. good solutions are hard to find. maybe mineral clay. i dunno.
bad ol' fluoride.
cool i might check them out on a day when im not drinking as much water!
think i might be slightly diabetic or somthing cos i drink bout 4-5 litres a day.
catfood
07-10-2007, 11:01 AM
I tried brushing my teeth with salt last night it did the trick but wasn’t the most pleasant thing iv dun in a wile. I think im going to have to find a fluoride free toothpaste.:D:D:D
catfood
07-10-2007, 11:36 AM
http://www.geocities.com/Northstarzone/FLUORIDE.html
http://www.fluoridealert.org/
http://www.fluorideaction.net/health/brain/
http://www.fluorideaction.net/health/brain/
Iv herd a reverse osmosis filter is the best way of dealing with them but ther expensive, Any alternatives?
http://www.waterfiltersonline.com/
http://www.watercoolersdirect.com/specialist_water_systems/reverse_osmosis.html?gclid=CNKbt9aX-44CFQxZMAodVQ14wA
Look at my links and watch this video it will freek you out.:(
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=7319752042352089988&q=fluoride&total=436&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
real6
10-10-2007, 09:22 PM
Judging by the look of your teeth real6 I'd consider another option..:D
RARA you got me there!!!
smartyjones
10-10-2007, 11:28 PM
:confused:I've always kinda wondered about fluoride..... now I have a 3 year old son and his pediatrician prescribed fluoride tablets be given daily, because we don't have fluoride in our water. I'm in the U.S. and its a pretty common thing that its added to most public water. Do children really need this chemical?
megafish33
11-10-2007, 05:39 AM
Third one down; fluoride-free peppermint w/ 10% Xylitol; no sodium laurel sulfate (http://www.thenaturaldentist.com/Products/Toothpaste.aspx)
The Glide floss w/ Scope (http://www.glidefloss.com/index.php)
Ultrasound toothbrush (http://www.ultreo.com/web/home/learn-about-ultreo/Default.aspx?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1)
Tom's of Maine tartar-control mouthwash w/ zinc, witch hazel, aloe and menthol (http://www.tomsofmaine.com/toms/product.asp?dept%5Fid=350&pf%5Fid=MWTC)
Best stuff ever.
_invisibleplane_
11-10-2007, 07:21 AM
yes! boycott as much ingestion of fluoride as you can(though it's tough since we absorb it orally, internally, and topically, it does shut down the pineal gland/6th chakra through calcification/hardening as the fluoride is stored there, thus not being able to release dmt, among other key chemicals. I use non fluoride toothpaste..tea tree oil diluted with water is a great anti sceptic to gargle with...baking soda is good...I've heard of people using salt..snow(or icey-snow from freezer)...even using bamboo as a toothbrush can be smart..
catfood
11-10-2007, 07:21 PM
Areas with Fluoride added to Drinking and Tap Water
Scotland and Wales are not fluoridated (yet) but approximately five million people in England live in areas that have drinking water that is polluted with fluoride.
You are one of them if you live in one of the following Postal Districts.
These districts have naturally-fluoridated water at more than 0.5 ppm:
Durham: DH1, 2, part of 6
Essex: CO1-6, 8-10
Lincolnshire: Part of LN13
Peterborough: PE2, 4
Suffolk: IP1-8, 13, 14, 28 to 30, 33
Teesside: TS27, 28
Tyneside: NE25, 26, 29; part of NE30
These districts have artificially fluoridated drinking water:
Berkshire: RG1, 4-6, 40, 41
Birmingham: B6-11, 13-21, 23-34, 37, 40, 42, 45, 60-62, 65-71; parts of Central Birmingham and B36, 38, 43, 44, 46, 47, 63, 64, 90, 92, 97
Buckinghamshire: Parts of SG18, 19
Chelmsford: CM1
Coventry: CV1-6, 10, 11; parts of CV 7-9, 12, 13
Crewe: Parts of CW1, 2, 5-7, 12, 17
Cumbria: CA24, 25, 27, 28
Dartford: DA1
Derby: DE13-15
Doncaster: DN15, 16, 18-21, 38-40; parts of DN9, 10, 17, 22, 31, 37
Dudley: Parts of DY9, 10
Durham: DH2, 7-9; parts of DH15
Lancaster: Parts of LA19
Leicestershire: Parts of LE10, and 18
Lincolnshire: Ln1, 2, 4-7
Milton Keynes: MK17, 43-46
Nottinghamshire: NG18-20; parts of NG17, 21-24, 31, 32, 34
Oxfordshire: Part of OX9
Sheffield: Parts of S80
Shrewsbury: Parts of SY13, 14
Stoke: Parts of ST7, 8
Tonbridge: TN26
Tyneside: NE1 to 6, 8, 12, 15-18, 21, 23, 25-27, 39, 42, 43, 45, 46; parts of NE9-11, 13, 19, 20, 24, 28, 44, 46-48, 65
Walsall
Wolverhampton: WV2, 3, 13, 14; parts of WV6-8
Worcestershire: Part of WR7, 9-11
:eek::eek::eek:
auron
11-10-2007, 07:43 PM
http://www.popular-pics.com/PPImages/Colgate_Smile.jpg
catfood
11-10-2007, 08:57 PM
http://gjne.com/cfsdwh/images/sodium%20fluoride%20can.jpg
catfood
11-10-2007, 09:04 PM
http://thyroid.about.com/cs/toxicchemicalsan/a/flouride.htm
auron
11-10-2007, 09:36 PM
http://www.garynull.com/documents/Dental/Fluoride/fluoride_index.htm Gary Null, Ph.D.: Fluoride: The Deadly Legacy.