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1964
24-11-2009, 09:02 PM
I just posted this photo of the United Nations symbol to another thread. I got to thinking about the grid that's drawn over the picture of the globe, and wondered if the grid could mean anything. The globe appears divided into 8 sections, with each section divided into 4 more sections. Does anyone happen to know whether the grid represents anything in particular?

http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp85/zlingshot/DI%201/G48CAGPDTQMCAMDFW5XCA3UL6K6CA7G0A5J.jpg

Edit: My apologies. I had posted an unofficial and incorrect logo. Thank you, mythmath, for the correction!

camreeno
25-11-2009, 12:38 AM
Yes absolutely. The emanating lines represent the Zodiac, and you can see the grid is composed of 33 segments, with 33 being a number of significance to the Illuminati. (33 degrees of Freemasonry, 33 circles of hell in Dante's Inferno, and many other places). The olive branches are Freemasonic symbolism, as you can see the branches in a similar way in the Freemasonry emblem.

1964
25-11-2009, 12:56 AM
Yes absolutely. The emanating lines represent the Zodiac, and you can see the grid is composed of 33 segments, with 33 being a number of significance to the Illuminati. (33 degrees of Freemasonry, 33 circles of hell in Dante's Inferno, and many other places). The olive branches are Freemasonic symbolism, as you can see the branches in a similar way in the Freemasonry emblem.

Hi camreeno,

Thanks for taking the time to answer.

I don't study astrology, so maybe there's just something I'm not understanding. There are 8 emanating lines - doesn't the zodiac have 12 signs?

And I can count only 24 segments in the grid - not 33.

I agree with you about the freemasonic connection, however, to the United Nations. But in the sense that freemasonry is another secret arm of the Roman Catholic church.

chris_com283
25-11-2009, 01:28 AM
Hi camreeno,

Thanks for taking the time to answer.

I don't study astrology, so maybe there's just something I'm not understanding. There are 8 emanating lines - doesn't the zodiac have 12 signs?

And I can count only 24 segments in the grid - not 33.

I agree with you about the freemasonic connection, however, to the United Nations. But in the sense that freemasonry is another secret arm of the Roman Catholic church.

I think 33 segments was on a previous logo. When I counted years ago I'm sure it was 33. Though 24 is a multiple of 3. I've noticed this a lot lately.

mythmath
25-11-2009, 03:53 AM
1964,

The 'official' UN logo:

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:cdY2b-kWnYsyJM:http://www.mzv.cz/public/f7/d9/1c/178229_14912_logoUN.jpg

It does indeed have 33 'cells'
8 x 4 = 32, + the center = 33...

Note that the 'view' is from directly above
the north pole with N. & S. America on
the left side of the 'central vertical' line...

Not sure why someone would recreate the
one that you posted to be similar, but yet
so far 'off' from the official version... :confused:


MM


PS -

As you mentioned there are 12 (or 13, with Ophiuchus (http://www.google.com/url?q=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophiuchus&ei=A6wMS-rXBNCvngfTh5XEAw&sa=X&oi=spellmeleon_result&resnum=1&ct=result&ved=0CAcQhgIwAA&usg=AFQjCNF2cvzO9JP3VR5sUIDxDLGHCYeiLQ)) 'houses'
of the Zodiac, where as the 8 divisions of the UN 'projection'
while ostensibly representing longitudinal lines, may also be
symbolic of the 4 cardinal directions (North, South, East, West)
along with the 4 intermediate points (NE, SE, NW, SW)...

Also, The Divine Comedy is divided into three canticas —
Inferno (Hell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), Purgatorio (Purgatory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), and Paradiso (Heaven - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) —
each consisting of 33 Canto - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

3 x 33 = 99

And there are but 9 concentric 'circles of Hell' in the work...

1964
25-11-2009, 05:00 AM
1964,

The 'official' UN logo:

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:cdY2b-kWnYsyJM:http://www.mzv.cz/public/f7/d9/1c/178229_14912_logoUN.jpg

It does indeed have 33 'cells'
8 x 4 = 32, + the center = 33...

Note that the 'view' is from directly above
the north pole with N. & S. America on
the left side of the 'central vertical' line...

Not sure why someone would recreate the
one that you posted to be similar, but yet
so far 'off' from the official version... :confused:


MM


PS -

As you mentioned there are 12 (or 13, with Ophiuchus (http://www.google.com/url?q=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophiuchus&ei=A6wMS-rXBNCvngfTh5XEAw&sa=X&oi=spellmeleon_result&resnum=1&ct=result&ved=0CAcQhgIwAA&usg=AFQjCNF2cvzO9JP3VR5sUIDxDLGHCYeiLQ)) 'houses'
of the Zodiac, where as the 8 divisions of the UN 'projection'
while ostensibly representing longitudinal lines, may also be
symbolic of the 4 cardinal directions (North, South, East, West)
along with the 4 intermediate points (NE, SE, NW, SW)...

Also, The Divine Comedy is divided into three canticas —
Inferno (Hell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell)), Purgatorio (Purgatory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purgatory)), and Paradiso (Paradise (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven)) —
each consisting of 33 cantos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canto).

3 x 33 = 99

And there are but 9 concentric 'circles of Hell' in the work...

Hi mythmath,

Thanks so much for this. I checked the UN website, and you do have the right logo posted. I should have checked their site in the first place. I can see that there are 33 cells now, when you include the center. I'm looking at a world map right now, and the logo looks very different. The continents aren't in the same place, and they aren't shaped the same. Any idea why that is?

1964
25-11-2009, 05:02 AM
I think 33 segments was on a previous logo. When I counted years ago I'm sure it was 33. Though 24 is a multiple of 3. I've noticed this a lot lately.

Sorry, chris, I'm the one who posted the wrong logo. Mymath posted the official logo, and you're right - it's divided into 33 segments.

1964
25-11-2009, 05:02 AM
Yes absolutely. The emanating lines represent the Zodiac, and you can see the grid is composed of 33 segments, with 33 being a number of significance to the Illuminati. (33 degrees of Freemasonry, 33 circles of hell in Dante's Inferno, and many other places). The olive branches are Freemasonic symbolism, as you can see the branches in a similar way in the Freemasonry emblem.

Sorry to you also, camreeno. I posted the wrong logo - not the official logo, but a misrepresentation.

mythmath
25-11-2009, 05:15 AM
The continents aren't in the same place, and they
aren't shaped the same. Any idea why that is?

As previously stated:

Note that the 'view' is from
directly above the north pole... ;)
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From: dynamicdiagrams.com the-expanding-earth-in-the-united-nations-logo (http://dd.dynamicdiagrams.com/2009/01/the-expanding-earth-in-the-united-nations-logo/)

The distinctive blue in the design, Mr. Lundquist explained, was “the opposite of red, the war color.”
He continued, “It was a gray blue, a little different than the modern United Nations flag.”

The symbol of the globe was also slightly different in the original design, he said: “We had originally based it
on what’s called an azimuthal north polar projection of the world, so that all the countries of the world were
spun around this concentric circle, and we had limited it in the Southern sector to a parallel that cut off
Argentina because Argentina was not to be a member of the United Nations. We centered the symbol on the
United States as the host country. Subsequently, in England our design was adapted as the official symbol
of the United Nations, centered on Europe as more the epicenter, I guess, of the East-West world, and took
into account the whole Earth, including Antarctica. By then, of course, Argentina had been made a member.”

Please note that the '25-cell' logo you had originally
posted seems to be the 'original' official logo...!

http://dd.dynamicdiagrams.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/logos450.jpg

1964
25-11-2009, 06:34 AM
As previously stated:

Note that the 'view' is from
directly above the north pole... ;)
_______________

From: dynamicdiagrams.com the-expanding-earth-in-the-united-nations-logo (http://dd.dynamicdiagrams.com/2009/01/the-expanding-earth-in-the-united-nations-logo/)

The distinctive blue in the design, Mr. Lundquist explained, was “the opposite of red, the war color.”
He continued, “It was a gray blue, a little different than the modern United Nations flag.”

The symbol of the globe was also slightly different in the original design, he said: “We had originally based it
on what’s called an azimuthal north polar projection of the world, so that all the countries of the world were
spun around this concentric circle, and we had limited it in the Southern sector to a parallel that cut off
Argentina because Argentina was not to be a member of the United Nations. We centered the symbol on the
United States as the host country. Subsequently, in England our design was adapted as the official symbol
of the United Nations, centered on Europe as more the epicenter, I guess, of the East-West world, and took
into account the whole Earth, including Antarctica. By then, of course, Argentina had been made a member.”

Please note that the '25-cell' logo you had originally
posted seems to be the 'original' official logo...!

http://dd.dynamicdiagrams.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/logos450.jpg


Hehe ... I'm so not good with geography. I can get lost in my own hometown, and I'm not even kidding. Thanks for the explanation :)

Now I'm wondering why they would have created a logo with less than 33 cells, if the current logo is truly based on the 33 degrees of Freemasonry.

Funny, when I look at the logo, I see the globe under a radar system. But I'm also still wondering whether the grid could mean anything else.

P.S. Thanks for including that link. Looks very interesting. I bookmarked it.

mythmath
25-11-2009, 07:20 AM
In mathematics: Polar coordinate system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And of course there's the crosshairs:Reticle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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I've actually developed an artform by converting sinewaves
into polar animations using an oscilloscope...;)

I call them kymotropes
{kymo = wave, trope = to turn}



Check 'em out: MythMathFilms (http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=MythMathFilms)


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mythmath
25-11-2009, 07:35 AM
It's odd, but when I first saw 1964's avatar, I
noticed the various world religion symbols but I did not
in any way 'register' seeing the central U.N. LOGO...! :eek:

I just noticed it was there all along... :p

It must be because the diagonal
line was obscuring it... :rolleyes:

somethinganonymous
25-11-2009, 11:53 AM
33 is the number of Jesus, and the Satanists have occupied this number and uses it as a "powernumber" in many of their institutions, rituals and ceremonies. Like everything of Beelzebub, they copy the truth, then obscurs it and turns it on its head.

The UN is a freemasonic organization and was one of two primary reasons for WW2. 1. The creation of the UN (the western "alliance" turned into a superstate) and 2. The creation of a Zionist state to act as a catalyst for future wars. The UN was created by american zionists and the USA have allways, since its creation been a project by the illuminati/freemasons.