Full Bin Laden Video : To The American People

[positive terror]

FULL BIN LADEN VIDEO : TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

THE SOLUTION


As a requested strategy the Video has been sent to TV channels before posting it to the net. And It is not true that some websites claimed that they have received it in another way.

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[james777]

Bin Laden is a C.I.A. Operative.......no more, no less...........

[soglad]

Bin Laden is a C.I.A. Operative.......no more, no less...........

I agree, I'm gonna see what he has to say anyways...

[james777]

I agree, I'm gonna see what he has to say anyways...

just some bullshit about how he has new attacks planned....on american and european soil(so broad).............nothing will happen, just some more fear in the matrix.........

[soglad]

just some bullshit about how he has new attacks planned....on american and european soil(so broad).............nothing will happen, just some more fear in the matrix.........

Isn't it a strange coincidence that as soon as the guys in America are up in a storm about "a gut feeling" of a terrorist attack, Osama comes along and says it right back? :rolleyes:

Total CIA....

[positive terror]

just some bullshit about how he has new attacks planned....on american and european soil(so broad).............nothing will happen, just some more fear in the matrix.........

Ups!!! No no no no, please james777 , dont do that!

Never judge without seeing the prouves!!!

It is a message of peace, incredible, but it is true

[soglad]

Ahhhhhhh, c'mon!!!!

Positive Terror, are you saying killing people is good?

[positive terror]

Ahhhhhhh, c'mon!!!!

Positive Terror, are you saying killing people is good?

Who said something about killing people soglad?

You smoke hash?

[positive terror]

The video is only 26:26 minutes long.....watch and then comment ...but....listen very very good to the facts that bin laden mentions.

[herebynightfall]

I don't like that whenever there is a misunderstanding on this forum.

Somebody goes as low as to mock the misunderstander, and also try and bring them down to a lower level.

Instead of rewording yourself for everybodies benefit, and possibly enlightening somebody that was lost on a topic.

Go back under yer bridge and live life telling riddles.
(to nobody in specific)

[soglad]

Who said something about killing people soglad?

You smoke hash?

No. Osama's principals are about killing people for justice....same as America...but you can't fight fire with fire...

I don't drink or smoke hash.

[positive terror]

I don't like that whenever there is a misunderstanding on this forum.

Somebody goes as low as to mock the misunderstander, and also try and bring them down to a lower level.

Instead of rewording yourself for everybodies benefit, and possibly enlightening somebody that was lost on a topic.

Go back under yer bridge and live life telling riddles.
(to nobody in specific)

Have you watched the video ??? I want your comment please.

[herebynightfall]

you said please..

so hold yer horses.

[positive terror]

No. Osama's principals are about killing people for justice....same as America...but you can't fight fire with fire...

I don't drink or smoke hash.

Im happy that you are clean,
but I think that america has started the war...what should do the agressed people?
what they should make against the American invasion? take off the pants and throw flowers?

[positive terror]

you said please..

so hold yer horses.

and now I say .... Thanks a lot.

[kashmirz]

so glad makes my brain tickle :D


...i think your missing the point that thats not osama though... so you know

[herebynightfall]

Two Puppets

One guy behind them.

It's sad that real people (masses of people) are tricked into following the story that the illuminati is saying has been true for the past thousands of years.

such a dull uninteresting story about 1/10,000 of a 'nation' taking on the task of keeping the compliant 9,999/10,000 in control.

none of this matters. with bin laden.

the fact that we're debating another brick in their wall, is jsut another week that we waste before we can see that they've almost finished their whole wall.

the brick wall. i personally can walk through. as many here can.

but you know what can't penetrate the wall..

.. people who watch tv, and actually buy into it all.

and listen to some people that tell us how life is supposed to be.. actors, reporters, politicians.

nothing i see, expresses to me anything close to how i percieve things should be.

i'm curious as to why people think that personal disputes between some people.. are resolved by sending a compliant 'army' of guys and gals who fight for the person telling them to do it because it's honorable.

eh. the tv blocks your third eye for real.

nothing, and i repeat nothing on it represents how i think anything should be.

besides some comedy. laughs are important in life. and love. and small disputes that end on mutual agreement and understanding.

ah the perfect world, doesn't seem so difficult to withhold.

[positive terror]

I dont know what you have seen, but in this video I have seen a bin laden reasonable, logical and enough pacifies.

[woghd]

OMG HERE WE GO YET AGAIN.


Osama Bin Laden is dead.
There are no ifs, ands, or buts about it.
He died of kidney failure in 2001.
Period.

Read my analysis at:
http://the.feds.are.lookingat.us
or
http://starships-rpg.com/archangel

The man has been dead for YEARS. How long are people going to keep falling for a tape every 2 years or so of this bogeyman? They can't even keep his age consistent from one tape to the next. Sheeple.

Archangel

[herebynightfall]

Two Puppets

One guy behind them.

It's sad that real people (masses of people) are tricked into following the story that the illuminati is saying has been true for the past thousands of years.

such a dull uninteresting story about 1/10,000 of a 'nation' taking on the task of keeping the compliant 9,999/10,000 in control.

none of this matters. with bin laden.

the fact that we're debating another brick in their wall, is jsut another week that we waste before we can see that they've almost finished their whole wall.

the brick wall. i personally can walk through. as many here can.

but you know what can't penetrate the wall..

.. people who watch tv, and actually buy into it all.

and listen to some people that tell us how life is supposed to be.. actors, reporters, politicians.

nothing i see, expresses to me anything close to how i percieve things should be.

i'm curious as to why people think that personal disputes between some people.. are resolved by sending a compliant 'army' of guys and gals who fight for the person telling them to do it because it's honorable.

eh. the tv blocks your third eye for real.

nothing, and i repeat nothing on it represents how i think anything should be.

besides some comedy. laughs are important in life. and love. and small disputes that end on mutual agreement and understanding.

ah the perfect world, doesn't seem so difficult to withhold.


yes i just quoted myself, jsut so i could further add to my point.

all i know is that this guy is acting as a part of their agenda.

whether the guy wanted to be publicized or not.

what he says or has to say, makes no difference to my views of life.

his business with somebody else is not my business.

i'm not part of their quarrel. or previous quarrels.

if he wants peace with somebody.

than GREAT! i'd hope he wouldnt go another way besides peace, with someone he's enemies with. maybe they can be friends.

but for real. leave me out of those peoples problems.

i don't go around mass televising that i'm proclaiming peace with a kid in my school after we got in a fist fight.

do you understand where i'm coming from now? PT
whether the guy is peacfule or not. why's it matter to you. just cause he's famous. and massley televised?

that's how they lasso the sheep and get them to listen.

[kasalt]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5199846507078029476

[james777]

Ups!!! No no no no, please james777 , dont do that!

Never judge without seeing the prouves!!!

It is a message of peace, incredible, but it is true

You may be right, but none the less, I'm standing here with 2 fingers up like "fuck bin laden" and if it comes to war we're strapped too..........so, bring what you wanna bring, but leave the bullshit talk at the fuckin' door!!

[kasalt]

Full Bin Laden Video : To The American People

Here are some of the bloopers and outtakes from Osama's latest video, taped from Fox News:

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[kashmirz]

ahhh thanks i needed a laugh kasalt

[positive terror]

You may be right, but none the less, I'm standing here with 2 fingers up like "fuck bin laden" and if it comes to war we're strapped too..........so, bring what you wanna bring, but leave the bullshit talk at the fuckin' door!!


Don't get angry my friend, I understand your reaction, but you have to keep in mind that it is impossible that bin laden is a cia creation because its biography is known and it is impossible that a man that inherited millions of dollars wanted to be a simple cia dog, IMPOSSIBLE.

[deca]

When Seeing and Hearing Isn't Believing
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/dotmil/arkin020199.htm


Digital morphing — voice, video, and photo — has come of age, available for use in psychological operations. PSYOPS, as the military calls it, seek to exploit human vulnerabilities in enemy governments, militaries and populations to pursue national and battlefield objectives.

[synergy777]

the video is fake, the saturation has been notched up, the beard coloured. its an old video with touch ups and new audio. osama is the infidel, helping the satanic nwo, osama is an elite member. him and bush created a company together, arbusto energy.

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/CIA_Created_Osama.htm

How the CIA created Osama bin Laden

BY NORM DIXON ©, 19 September 2001

This article first appeared in Green Left Weekly, Australia's leading leftwing newspaper. Posted with permission of the author.

“Throughout the world ... its agents, client states and satellites are on the defensive — on the moral defensive, the intellectual defensive, and the political and economic defensive. Freedom movements arise and assert themselves. They're doing so on almost every continent populated by man — in the hills of Afghanistan, in Angola, in Kampuchea, in Central America ... [They are] freedom fighters.”

Is this a call to jihad (holy war) taken from one of Islamic fundamentalist Osama bin Laden's notorious fatwas? Or perhaps a communique issued by the repressive Taliban regime in Kabul?

In fact, this glowing praise of the murderous exploits of today's supporters of arch-terrorist bin Laden and his Taliban collaborators, and their holy war against the “evil empire”, was issued by US President Ronald Reagan on March 8, 1985. The “evil empire” was the Soviet Union, as well as Third World movements fighting US-backed colonialism, apartheid and dictatorship.

How things change. In the aftermath of a series of terrorist atrocities — the most despicable being the mass murder of more than 6000 working people in New York and Washington on September 11 — bin Laden the “freedom fighter” is now lambasted by US leaders and the Western mass media as a “terrorist mastermind” and an “evil-doer”.

Yet the US government refuses to admit its central role in creating the vicious movement that spawned bin Laden, the Taliban and Islamic fundamentalist terrorists that plague Algeria and Egypt — and perhaps the disaster that befell New York.

The mass media has also downplayed the origins of bin Laden and his toxic brand of Islamic fundamentalism.

Mujaheddin
In April 1978, the People's Democratic Party of Afghanistan (PDPA) seized power in Afghanistan in reaction to a crackdown against the party by that country's repressive government.

The PDPA was committed to a radical land reform that favoured the peasants, trade union rights, an expansion of education and social services, equality for women and the separation of church and state. The PDPA also supported strengthening Afghanistan's relationship with the Soviet Union.

Such policies enraged the wealthy semi-feudal landlords, the Muslim religious establishment (many mullahs were also big landlords) and the tribal chiefs. They immediately began organizing resistance to the government's progressive policies, under the guise of defending Islam.

Washington, fearing the spread of Soviet influence (and worse the new government's radical example) to its allies in Pakistan, Iran and the Gulf states, immediately offered support to the Afghan mujaheddin, as the “contra” force was known.

Following an internal PDPA power struggle in December 1979 which toppled Afghanistan's leader, thousands of Soviet troops entered the country to prevent the new government's fall. This only galvanized the disparate fundamentalist factions. Their reactionary jihad now gained legitimacy as a “national liberation” struggle in the eyes of many Afghans.

The Soviet Union was eventually to withdraw from Afghanistan in 1989 and the mujaheddin captured the capital, Kabul, in 1992.

Between 1978 and 1992, the US government poured at least US$6 billion (some estimates range as high as $20 billion) worth of arms, training and funds to prop up the mujaheddin factions. Other Western governments, as well as oil-rich Saudi Arabia, kicked in as much again. Wealthy Arab fanatics, like Osama bin Laden, provided millions more.

Washington's policy in Afghanistan was shaped by US President Jimmy Carter's national security advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski, and was continued by his successors. His plan went far beyond simply forcing Soviet troops to withdraw; rather it aimed to foster an international movement to spread Islamic fanaticism into the Muslim Central Asian Soviet republics to destabilize the Soviet Union.

Brzezinski's grand plan coincided with Pakistan military dictator General Zia ul-Haq's own ambitions to dominate the region. US-run Radio Liberty and Radio Free Europe beamed Islamic fundamentalist tirades across Central Asia (while paradoxically denouncing the “Islamic revolution” that toppled the pro-US Shah of Iran in 1979).

Washington's favoured mujaheddin faction was one of the most extreme, led by Gulbuddin Hekmatyar. The West's distaste for terrorism did not apply to this unsavory “freedom fighter”. Hekmatyar was notorious in the 1970's for throwing acid in the faces of women who refused to wear the veil.

After the mujaheddin took Kabul in 1992, Hekmatyar's forces rained US-supplied missiles and rockets on that city — killing at least 2000 civilians — until the new government agreed to give him the post of prime minister. Osama bin Laden was a close associate of Hekmatyar and his faction.

Hekmatyar was also infamous for his side trade in the cultivation and trafficking in opium. Backing of the mujaheddin from the CIA coincided with a boom in the drug business. Within two years, the Afghanistan-Pakistan border was the world's single largest source of heroin, supplying 60% of US drug users.

In 1995, the former director of the CIA's operation in Afghanistan was unrepentant about the explosion in the flow of drugs: “Our main mission was to do as much damage as possible to the Soviets... There was a fallout in terms of drugs, yes. But the main objective was accomplished. The Soviets left Afghanistan.”

Made in the USA
According to Ahmed Rashid, a correspondent for the Far Eastern Economic Review, in 1986 CIA chief William Casey committed CIA support to a long-standing ISI proposal to recruit from around the world to join the Afghan jihad. At least 100,000 Islamic militants flocked to Pakistan between 1982 and 1992 (some 60,000 attended fundamentalist schools in Pakistan without necessarily taking part in the fighting).

John Cooley, a former journalist with the US ABC television network and author of Unholy Wars: Afghanistan, America and International Terrorism, has revealed that Muslims recruited in the US for the mujaheddin were sent to Camp Peary, the CIA's spy training camp in Virginia, where young Afghans, Arabs from Egypt and Jordan, and even some African-American “black Muslims” were taught “sabotage skills”.

The November 1, 1998, British Independent reported that one of those charged with the 1998 bombings of US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, Ali Mohammed, had trained “bin Laden's operatives” in 1989.

These “operatives” were recruited at the al Kifah Refugee Centre in Brooklyn, New York, given paramilitary training in the New York area and then sent to Afghanistan with US assistance to join Hekmatyar's forces. Mohammed was a member of the US army's elite Green Berets.

The program, reported the Independent, was part of a Washington-approved plan called “ Operation Cyclone”.

In Pakistan, recruits, money and equipment were distributed to the mujaheddin factions by an organization known as Maktab al Khidamar (Office of Services — MAK).

MAK was a front for Pakistan's CIA, the Inter-Service Intelligence Directorate. The ISI was the first recipient of the vast bulk of CIA and Saudi Arabian covert assistance for the Afghan contras. Bin Laden was one of three people who ran MAK. In 1989, he took overall charge of MAK.

Among those trained by Mohammed were El Sayyid Nosair, who was jailed in 1995 for killing Israeli rightist Rabbi Meir Kahane and plotting with others to bomb New York landmarks, including the World Trade Center in 1993.

The Independent also suggested that Shiekh Omar Abdel-Rahman, an Egyptian religious leader also jailed for the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center, was also part of Operation Cyclone. He entered the US in 1990 with the CIA's approval. A confidential CIA report concluded that the agency was “partly culpable” for the 1993 World Trade Center blast, the Independent reported.

Bin Laden
Osama bin Laden, one of 20 sons of a billionaire construction magnate, arrived in Afghanistan to join the jihad in 1980. An austere religious fanatic and business tycoon, bin Laden specialized in recruiting, financing and training the estimated 35,000 non-Afghan mercenaries who joined the mujaheddin.

The bin Laden family is a prominent pillar of the Saudi Arabian ruling class, with close personal, financial and political ties to that country's pro-US royal family.

Bin Laden senior was appointed Saudi Arabia's minister of public works as a favour by King Faisal. The new minister awarded his own construction companies lucrative contracts to rebuild Islam's holiest mosques in Mecca and Medina. In the process, the bin Laden family company in 1966 became the world's largest private construction company.

Osama bin Laden's father died in 1968. Until 1994, he had access to the dividends from this ill-gotten business empire.

(Bin Laden junior's oft-quoted personal fortune of US$200-300 million has been arrived at by the US State Department by dividing today's value of the bin Laden family net worth — estimated to be US$5 billion — by the number of bin Laden senior's sons. A fact rarely mentioned is that in 1994 the bin Laden family disowned Osama and took control of his share.)

Osama's military and business adventures in Afghanistan had the blessing of the bin Laden dynasty and the reactionary Saudi Arabian regime. His close working relationship with MAK also meant that the CIA was fully aware of his activities.

Milt Bearden, the CIA's station chief in Pakistan from 1986 to 1989, admitted to the January 24, 2000, New Yorker that while he never personally met bin Laden, “Did I know that he was out there? Yes, I did ... [Guys like] bin Laden were bringing $20-$25 million a month from other Saudis and Gulf Arabs to underwrite the war. And that is a lot of money. It's an extra $200-$300 million a year. And this is what bin Laden did.”

In 1986, bin Laden brought heavy construction equipment from Saudi Arabia to Afghanistan. Using his extensive knowledge of construction techniques (he has a degree in civil engineering), he built “training camps”, some dug deep into the sides of mountains, and built roads to reach them.

These camps, now dubbed “terrorist universities” by Washington, were built in collaboration with the ISI and the CIA. The Afghan contra fighters, including the tens of thousands of mercenaries recruited and paid for by bin Laden, were armed by the CIA. Pakistan, the US and Britain provided military trainers.

Tom Carew, a former British SAS soldier who secretly fought for the mujaheddin told the August 13, 2000, British Observer, “The Americans were keen to teach the Afghans the techniques of urban terrorism — car bombing and so on — so that they could strike at the Russians in major towns ... Many of them are now using their knowledge and expertise to wage war on everything they hate.”

Al Qaeda (the Base), bin Laden's organization, was established in 1987-88 to run the camps and other business enterprises. It is a tightly-run capitalist holding company — albeit one that integrates the operations of a mercenary force and related logistical services with “legitimate” business operations.

Bin Laden has simply continued to do the job he was asked to do in Afghanistan during the 1980's — fund, feed and train mercenaries. All that has changed is his primary customer. Then it was the ISI and, behind the scenes, the CIA. Today, his services are utilized primarily by the reactionary Taliban regime.

Bin Laden only became a “terrorist” in US eyes when he fell out with the Saudi royal family over its decision to allow more than 540,000 US troops to be stationed on Saudi soil following Iraq's invasion of Kuwait.

When thousands of US troops remained in Saudi Arabia after the end of the Gulf War, bin Laden's anger turned to outright opposition. He declared that Saudi Arabia and other regimes — such as Egypt — in the Middle East were puppets of the US, just as the PDPA government of Afghanistan had been a puppet of the Soviet Union.

He called for the overthrow of these client regimes and declared it the duty of all Muslims to drive the US out of the Gulf states. In 1994, he was stripped of his Saudi citizenship and forced to leave the country. His assets there were frozen.

After a period in Sudan, he returned to Afghanistan in May 1996. He refurbished the camps he had helped build during the Afghan war and offered the facilities and services — and thousands of his mercenaries — to the Taliban, which took power that September.

Today, bin Laden's private army of non-Afghan religious fanatics is a key prop of the Taliban regime.

Prior to the devastating September 11 attack on the twin towers of World Trade Center, US ruling-class figures remained unrepentant about the consequences of their dirty deals with the likes of bin Laden, Hekmatyar and the Taliban. Since the awful attack, they have been downright hypocritical.

In an August 28, 1998, report posted on MSNBC, Michael Moran quotes Senator Orrin Hatch, who was a senior member of the Senate Intelligence Committee which approved US dealings with the mujaheddin, as saying he would make “the same call again”, even knowing what bin Laden would become.

“It was worth it. Those were very important, pivotal matters that played an important role in the downfall of the Soviet Union.”

Hatch today is one of the most gung-ho voices demanding military retaliation.

Another face that has appeared repeatedly on television screens since the attack has been Vincent Cannistrano, described as a former CIA chief of “counter-terrorism operations”.

Cannistrano is certainly an expert on terrorists like bin Laden, because he directed their “work”. He was in charge of the CIA-backed Nicaraguan contras during the early 1980's. In 1984, he became the supervisor of covert aid to the Afghan mujaheddin for the US National Security Council.

The last word goes to Zbigniew Brzezinski: “What was more important in the world view of history? The Taliban or the fall of the Soviet Empire? A few stirred up Muslims or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the Cold War?”

[gorana]

I don't like that whenever there is a misunderstanding on this forum.

Somebody goes as low as to mock the misunderstander, and also try and bring them down to a lower level.

Instead of rewording yourself for everybodies benefit, and possibly enlightening somebody that was lost on a topic.

Go back under yer bridge and live life telling riddles.
(to nobody in specific)

Ah remember that old one say "Never argue with an idiot. He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience." :)

G.

[gorana]

Don't get angry my friend, I understand your reaction, but you have to keep in mind that it is impossible that bin laden is a cia creation because its biography is known and it is impossible that a man that inherited millions of dollars wanted to be a simple cia dog, IMPOSSIBLE.

One question...

Who was mastermind of 9/11? Please answer that one for me :)

G.

[positive terror]

One question...

Who was mastermind of 9/11? Please answer that one for me :)

G.

Bin Laden and bush (not as collaborators)

I believe is a lihop, no doubt.

[gorana]

Bin Laden and bush (not as collaborators)

I believe is a lihop, no doubt.

Not as collaborators? Ahm... can you explain how did they manage to do it, one organizing planes and other organizing norad, airforce, pentagon and all other small details, without talking with each other... in other words collaborating?

Ah the both hoped that other will prepare everything on date that one has planned.

[positive terror]

Not as collaborators? Ahm... can you explain how did they manage to do it, one organizing planes and other organizing norad, airforce, pentagon and all other small details, without talking with each other... in other words collaborating?

Ah the both hoped that other will prepare everything on date that one has planned.

Bush knew the plan of Bin laden, but Bin Laden he didn't knew that bush was able to murder its own people in that so cold way.
For Bin Laden was a vengeance and an answer to the American tyranny.
For bush it was the best excuse to invade Iraq and Afghanistan, to control the petroleum, anyway these wars they were in the illuminati-zionists agenda before 9/11.

Look at the prouves here:
http://davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6781

[positive terror]

Here are ¨The Videos¨ very orderly:



http://www.newworldorderchat.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=508&PN=1



Please check here ALL of you.

[herebynightfall]

This Thread is Trolled to shit.

It's ignorance to think that osama binladen actually matters.

Has he personally done anything to you?

What the fuck.

He doesn't like eastern philosophy or government.
Cheers. Nor do I.

If he wants peace.
Cheers. So do I.

It's the fact that he's in the mass media portraying his views.
They show us this man and tell us that we should be scared.

He hasn't done nothin to me so I don't wanna here it you stupid bitch media fucker.

Leave me be and don't tell me why the people that call themselves government, control me.

It's cool if you want to listen to a couple of people making laws in their own little world.

But don't expand that into my home and in my mind where i know I'm alright not listening to those restricting fucks.

[positive terror]

This Thread is Trolled to shit.

It's ignorance to think that osama binladen actually matters.

Has he personally done anything to you?

What the fuck.

He doesn't like eastern philosophy or government.
Cheers. Nor do I.

If he wants peace.
Cheers. So do I.

It's the fact that he's in the mass media portraying his views.
They show us this man and tell us that we should be scared.

He hasn't done nothin to me so I don't wanna here it you stupid bitch media fucker.

Leave me be and don't tell me why the people that call themselves government, control me.

It's cool if you want to listen to a couple of people making laws in their own little world.

But don't expand that into my home and in my mind where i know I'm alright not listening to those restricting fucks.

I understand that you want to live in peace, we all want to live in peace my dear friend. But this it is the reality, you are in this world and in this time. The conflict is there, the wars are there, we should study the origins and to stop the human being's self-destruction.

Bin Laden is telling to the west that the solution is in: leaving the Islamic countries and that also includes Israel, alone this way the conflicts finished.

[bigus_dickus]

video was utterly boring and made me sleep.. i deleted it when i woke up

[james777]

Don't get angry my friend, I understand your reaction, but you have to keep in mind that it is impossible that bin laden is a cia creation because its biography is known and it is impossible that a man that inherited millions of dollars wanted to be a simple cia dog, IMPOSSIBLE.

Yes, I see what you're saying......and it does seem to make some sense, however, I never implied that he 'wanted' to be a C.I.A dog, he may be being black-mailed.....he may just be nothing more than a scape-goat and has nothing to do with war and to be honest I have no proof that he even exists....I've never seen him with my own two eyes, so for all I know he may be a computer-generated image to stir up hate, war and deception.

most people just believe what they see on TV and hear on the news....it's such a game that is being played.....

[woghd]

Bin Laden is dead.
He doesn't want peace or war or anything else, because he's dead.
He's not with the CIA because he's dead.
He's not a leader of anything, because he's dead.

In two years or so, his dead ass will pop up again in yet another tape, prolly looking even younger, making vague statements that say nothing more than "I'm your bogeyman, and I'm still alive- you believe me, dontcha?"

And sadly many people will believe the tape of the dead man...baaaaaah,baaaaah.
Sheeple.

He's dead folks...as a door nail.

Archangel

[abrilliantone]

How do you know he's dead woghd? :)

[woghd]

How do you know he's dead woghd? :)

If you're seriously interested, I laid it all out on my site:
http://the.feds.are.lookingat.us

MIRROR:
http://starships-rpg.com/archangel

Enjoy!
Archangel

[herebynightfall]

video was utterly boring and made me sleep.. i deleted it when i woke up

i second that notion.

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

Hehehehe...

You know, I actually think it's pretty funny that everyone here is falling for it.

The video, just like the Madeline story, just like the whole Britney Spears shit, is just here to keep you from seeing what's going on behind you...


I thought you all would have realized this by now.

Because of this, people are not even paying attention to the fact that Bush has his finger inches away from the "Nuke Da Fuck Outta Iran" button.

heheheheh

[Anders Lindman]

Holy smolder, Osama Bin Laden not only has dyed his hair, he has also done a total face job + vocal cord implant. :eek: :eek: :eek:

Bin laden falso 2007, fake binladen - YouTube

:D

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

:rolleyes:

[_underscore_]

Bin Laden put out another video!?! Are J-Lo, Madonna and Britney dancing a choreographed skit while the man lays down some sick rhymes? _underscore_ hopes so, his life would go unfulfilled otherwise.

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

Bin Laden put out another video!?! Are J-Lo, Madonna and Britney dancing a choreographed skit while the man lays down some sick rhymes? _underscore_ hopes so, his life would go unfulfilled otherwise.

OMFG I NO!! IF OSAMA DSNT PT IN DEM LYRICS F HIS!! GAWD!! I WOULD DY!!!



*as much as I hate the msn language, I think it has it's effect to what I was saying :P*

[_underscore_]

OMFG I NO!! IF OSAMA DSNT PT IN DEM LYRICS F HIS!! GAWD!! I WOULD DY!!!



*as much as I hate the msn language, I think it has it's effect to what I was saying :P*


Well, if you wanted _underscore_ to imagine you as a teenager who wears his hat cocked to the side a bit, with bleached highlights in your hair, and too much bass coming out of your stereo, then yes, it was effective.

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

Ok, _underscore_. You just kidda teed me off. Back to the topic though;


We can clearly see that it's a fake. There's enough info that not even the media could sell this...

Why are are we even discussing that? Why not just discuss how to stop it from happening again?

[_underscore_]

Ok, _underscore_. You just kidda teed me off. Back to the topic though;


We can clearly see that it's a fake. There's enough info that not even the media could sell this...

Why are are we even discussing that? Why not just discuss how to stop it from happening again?


This isn't golf, and _underscore_ doesn't aim to tee off anybody.

There's no way to stop the fake Bin Laden tapes. _underscore_ believes that the false videos do more damage than good, or they will eventually. It's unfortunate that people actually buy the shit that the media is sellin'.

[megafish33]

Bin Laden is enjoying Cristal at the CIA... seriously. lol

[somewarez]

Is it Just my Real player app that has paused this video but yet the audio continues spewing out the lies and fear or does this happen on everyone elses players?

Is this a broken file or is this the most lame attempt I have seen at propaganda?

If this is the best the US/NWO can do then we really have nothing to fear...
It seemed to me whenever he was speaking about current events it was paused but the audio continues..

HI2U voice over... BYE2U any credability in this been a real Osama message.

HI2U APEC distractor... HI2U Iraq Commision thing Distractor. HI2U Iran been Nuked planning......
I mean look at it, we're just been fed the carrot in front of the donkey, when really if the donkey turned around he would find a full crate of carrots... Look the otherway and we can see through their lies and see the truth.

This is almost comedy

I do believe most of what it says as its stating the NWOs plans to make us think it was Osama because he told us he would do it in this vid...


1 question as I am a bit unsure on this, in the video it says his name as :- Shaykh Usama bin Ladin , is that name right? am not sure just asking as I thought it was Osama

oh well imo i dont believe its real, maybe it is a video of him but with my player pausing everytime he speaks about stuff that is supposed to be important it seems rather suspect

btw that Just for terrorists joke made me laugh soo much :D

[positive terror]

Is it Just my Real player app that has paused this video but yet the audio continues spewing out the lies and fear or does this happen on everyone elses players?

Is this a broken file or is this the most lame attempt I have seen at propaganda?



You are right, it happens the same thing to me.
It will be the poor quality of the video.
Anyway here is the writed text of the video:

The Solution

All praise is due to Allah, who built the heavens and earth in justice, and created man as a favor and grace for Him.

And from His ways is that the days rotate between the people, and from His law is retaliation in kind: an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth and the killer is killed.

And all praise is due to Allah, who awakened His slaves' desire for the Garden, and all of them will enter it except those who refuse. And whoever obeys Him alone in all of his affairs will enter the Garden, and whoever disobeys Him will have refused.

As for what comes after:

Peace be upon he who follows the Guidance.

People of America:

I shall be speaking to you on important topics which concern you, so lend me your ears.

I begin by discussing the war which is between us and some of its repercussions for us and you.
To preface, I say: despite America being the greatest economic power and possessing the most powerful and up-to-date military arsenal as well; and despite it spending on this war and its army more than the entire world spends on its armies; and despite it being the major state influencing the policies of the world, as if it has a monopoly on the in just right of veto; despite all of this, 19 young men were able -by the grace of Allah, the Most High- to change the direction of its compass. And in fact, the subject of the Mujahedeen has become an inseparable part of the speech of your leader, and the effects and signs of that are not hidden.


Since the 11th, many of America's policies have come under the influence of the Mujahideen, and that is by the grace of Allah, the Most High. And as a result, the people discovered the truth about it, its reputation worsened, its prestige was broken globally and it was bled dry economically, even if our interests overlap with the interests of the major corporations and also with those of the neoconservatives, despite the differing intentions. And your information media, during the first years of the war, lost its credibility and manifested itself as a tool of the colonialist empires, and its condition has often been worse than the condition of the media of the dictatorial regimes which march in the caravan of the single leader. Then Bush talks about his working with al-Maliki and his government to spread freedom in Iraq, but he in fact is working with the leaders of one sect against another sect, in the belief that this will quickly decide the war in his favor. And thus, what is called the civil war came into being and matters worsened at his hands before getting out of his control and him becoming like the one who plows and sows the sea: he harvests nothing but failure.


So these are some of the results of the freedom about whose spreading he is talking to you. And then the backtracking of Bush on his insistence on not giving the United Nations expanded jurisdiction in Iraq is an implicit admission of his loss and defeat there. And among the most important items contained in Bush's speeches since the events of the 11th is that the Americans have no option but to continue the war. This tone is in fact an echoing of the words of neoconservatives like Cheney , Rumsfeld and Richard pearle, the latter having said previously that the Americans have no choice in front of them other than to continue the war or face a holocaust.


I say, refuting this unjust statement, that the morality and culture of the holocaust is your culture, not our culture. In fact, burning living beings is forbidden in our religion, even if they be small like the ant, so what of man?! The holocaust of the Jews was carried out by your brethren in the middle of Europe, but had it been closer to our countries, most of the Jews would have been saved by taking refuge with us. And my proof for that is in what your brothers, the Spanish, did when they set up the horrible courts of the Inquisition to try Muslims and Jews, when the Jews only found safe shelter by taking refuge in our countries. And that is why the Jewish community in Morocco today is one of the largest communities in the world. They are alive with us and we have not incinerated them, but we are a people who don't sleep under oppression and reject humiliation and disgrace, and we take revenge on the people of tyranny and agression, and the blood of the Muslims will not be spilled with impunity, and the morrow is nigh for he who awaits.


Also, your Christian brothers have been living among us for 14 centuries: in Egypt alone, there are millions of Christians whom we have not incinerated and shall not incinerate. But the fact is, there is a continuing and biased campaign being waged against us for a long time now by your politicians and many of your writers by way of your media, especially Hollywood, for the purpose of misrepresenting Islam and its adherents to drive you away from the true religion. The genocide of peoples and their holocausts took place at your hands: only a few specimens of Red Indians were spared, and just a few days ago, the Japanese observed the 62nd anniversary of the annihilation of Hiroshima and Nagasaki by your nuclear weapons.


And among the things which catch the eye of the one who considers the repercussions of your unjust war against Iraq is the failure of your democratic system, desipte its raising of the slogans of justice, liberty, equality and humanitarianism. It has not only failed to achieve these things, it has actually destroyed these and other concepts with its weapons -especially in Iraq and Afghanistan- in a brazen fashion, to replace them with fear, destruction, killing, hunger, illness, displacement and more than a million orphans in Baghdad alone, not to mention hundreds of thousands of widows. American statistics speak of the killing of more than 650,000 of the people of Iraq as a result of the war and its repercussions.

People of America:

The world is following your news in regards to your invasion of Iraq, for people have recently come to know that, after several years of the tragedies of this war, the vast majority of you want it stopped. Thus, you elected the Democratic Party for this purpose, but the Democrats haven't made a move worth mentioning. On the contrary, they continue to agree to the spending of tens of billions to continue the killing and war there, which has led to the vast majority of you being afflicted with disappointment. And here is the gist of the matter, so one should pause, think and reflect: why have the Democrats failed to stop this war, despite them being the majority? I will come back to reply to this question after raising another question, which is: why are the leaders of the White House keen to start wars and wage them around the world, and make use of every possible opportunity through which they can reach this purpose, occasionally even creating justifications based on deception and blatant lies, as you saw in Iraq?

In the Vietnam War, the leaders of the White House claimed at the time that it was a necessary and crucial war, and during it, Rumsfeld and his aides murdered two millions villagers, and when Kennedy took over the presidency and deviated from the general line of policy drawn up for the White House and wanted to stop this unjust war, that angered the owners of the major corporations who were benefiting from its continuation. And so Kennedy was killed, and al-Qaida wasn't present at that time, but rather, those corporations were the primary beneficiary from his killing. And the war continued after that for approximately one decade. But after it became clear to you that it was an unjust and unnecessary war, you made one of your greatest mistakes, in that you neither brought to account nor punished those who waged this war, not even the most violent of its murderers, Rumsfeld.

And even more incredible than that is that Bush picked him as secretary of defense in his first term after picking Cheney as his vice-president, Powell as secretary of state and Armitage as Powell's deputy, despite their horrific and bloody history of murdering humans. So that was a clear signal that this administration -the administartion of the generals- didn't have as its main concern the serving of humanity, but rather, was intersted in bringing about news massacres. Yet in spite of that, you permitted Bush to complete his first term, and stranger still, chose him for a second term, which gave him a clear mandate from you -with your full knowledge and consent- to continue to murder our people in Iraq and Afghanistan. Then you claim to be innocent! This innocence of yours is like my innocence of the blood of your sons on the 11th -were I to claim such a thing. But it is impossible for me to humor many of you in the arrogance and indifference you show for the lives of humans outside America, or for me to humor your leaders in their lying, as the entire world knows they have the lion's share of that. These morals aren't our morals.


What I want to emphasize here is that not taking past war criminals to account led to them repeating that crime of killing humanity without right and waging this unjust war in Mesopotamia, and as a result, here are the oppressed ones today continuing to take their right from you. This war was entirely unnecessary, as testified to by your own reports. And among the most capable of those from your own side who speak to you on this topic and on the manufacturing of public opinion is Noam Chomsky, who spoke sober words of advice prior to the war, but the leader of Texas doesn't like those who give advice.


The entire world came out in unprecedented demonstrations to warn against waging the war and describe its true nature in eloquent terms like "no to spilling red blood for black oil", yet he paid them no heed. It is time for humankind to know that talk of the rights of man and freedom are lies produced by the White House and its allies in Europe to deceive humans, take control of their destinies and subjugate them. So in answer to the question about causes of the Democrats' failure to stop the war, I say: they are the same reasons which led to the failure of former president Kennedy to stop Vietnam War. Those with real power and influence are those with the most capital. And since the democratic system permits major corporations to back candidates, be they presidential or congressional, there shouldn't be any cause for astonishment -and there isn't any- in the Democrats' failure to stop the war.


And you're the ones who have the saying which goes, "Money talks". And I tell you: after the failure of your representatives in the Democratic Party to implement your desire to stop the war, you can still carry anti-war placards and spread out in the streets of major cities, then go back to your homes, but that will be of no use and will lead to the prolonging of the war. However, there are two solutions for stopping it. The first is from our side, and it is to continue to escalate the killing and fighting against you. This is our duty, and our brothers are carrying it out, and I ask Allah to grant them resolve and victory. And the second solution is from your side. It has now become clear to you and the entire world the impotence of the democratic system and how it plays with the interests of the peoples and their blood by sacrificing soldiers and populations to achieve the interests of the major corporations. And with that, it has become clear to all that they are real tyrannical terrorists.


In fact, the life of all of mankind is in danger because of the global warming resulting to a large degree from the emissions of the factories of the major corporations, yet despite that, the representative of these corporations in the White House insists on not observing the Kyoto accord, with the knowledge that the statistic speaks of the death and displacement of millions of human beings because of that, especially in Africa. This greatest of plagues and most dangerous of threats to the lives of humans is taking place in an accelerating fashion as the world is being dominated by the democratic system, which confirms its massive failure to protect humans and their interests from the greed and avarice of the major corporations and their representatives. And despite this brazen attack on the people, the leaders of the West -especially Bush, Blair, Sarkozy and Brown- still talk about freedom and human rights with a flagrant disregard for the intellects of human beings. So is there a form of terrorism stronger, clearer and more dangerous than this?


This is why I tell you: as you liberated yourselves before from the slavery of monks, kings and feudalism, you should today liberate yourselves from the deception, shackles and attrition of the capitalist system. If you were to ponder it well, you would find that in the end, it is a system harsher and fiercer than your systems in the Middle Ages. The capitalist system seeks to turn the entire world into a fiefdom of the major corporations under the label of "globalization" in order to protect democracy. And Iraq and Afghanistan and their tragedies; the reeling of many of you under the burden of interests-related debts, insane taxes and real estate mortgages; global warming and its woes; and the abject poverty and tragic hunger in Africa: all of this is but one side of the grim face of this global system. So it is imperative that you free yourselves from all of that and search for an alternative, upright methodology in which it is not the business of any class of humanity to lay down its own laws to its own advantage at the expense of the other classes as is the case with you, since the essence of man-made positive laws is that they serve the interests of those with the capital and thus make the rich richer and the poor poorer.


The infallible methodology is the methodology of Allah, the Most High, who created the heavens and earth and created the Creation and is the Most Kind and All-Informed and the Knower of the souls of His slaves and the methodology that best suits them. You believe with absolute certainty that you believe in Allah, and you are full of conviction of this belief, so much so that you have written this belief of yours on your dollar. But the truth is that you are mistake in this belief of yours. The impartial judge knows that belief in Allah requires straightness in the following of His methodology, and accordingly, total obedience must be to the orders and prohibitions of Allah Alone in all aspects of life. So how about you when you associate others with Him in your beliefs and separate state from religion, then claim that you are believers?! What you have done is clear loss and manifest polytheism. And I will give you a parable of polytheism, as parables summarize and clarify speech. I tell you: its parable is the parable of a man who owns a shop and hires a worker and tells him, "Sell and give me the money," but he makes sales and give the money to someone other than the owner. So who of you would approve of that? You believe that Allah is your Lord and your Creator and the Creator of this earth and that it is His property, then you work on His earth and property without His orders and without obeying Him, and you legislate in contradiction to His Law and methodology.


This work of yours is the greatest form of polytheism and is rebellion against obedience to Allah with which the believer becomes an unbeliever, even if he obeys Allah in some of His other orders. Allah, the Most High, sent down His orders in His Sacred Books like the Torah and Evangel and sent with them the Messengers (Allah's prayers and peace be upon them) as bearers of good news to the people. And everyone who believes in them and complies with them is a believer from the people of the Garden. Then when the men of knowledge altered the words of Allah, the Most High, and sold them for a paltry price, as the rabbis did with the Torah and the monks with the Evangel, Allah sent down His final Book, the magnificent Quran, and safeguarded it from being added to or subtracted from by the hands of men, and in it is a complete methodology for the lives of all people. And our holding firm to this magnificient Book is the secret of our strength and winning of the war against you despite the fewness of our numbers and materiel. And if you would like to get to know some of the reasons for your losing of your war against us, then read the book of Michael Scheuer in this regard. Don't be turned away from Islam by the terrible situation of the Muslims today, for our rulers in general abandoned Islam many decades ago, but our forefathers were the leaders and pioneers of the world for many centuries, when they held firmly to Islam.


And before concluding, I tell you: there has been an increase in the thinkers who study events and happenings, and on the basis of their study, they have declared the approach of the collapse of the American Empire. Among them is the European thinker who anticipated the fall of the Soviet Union, which indeed fell. And it would benefit you to read what he wrote about what comes after the empire in regard to the United States of America. I also want to bring to your attention that among the greatest reasons for the collapse of the Soviet Union was their being afflicted with their leader Brezhnev, who was overtaken by pride and arrogance and refused to look at the facts on the ground. From the first year of the Afghanistan invasion, reports indicated that the Russians were losing the war, but he refused to acknowledge this, lest it go down in his personal history as a defeat, even though refusal to acknowledge defeat not only doesn't do anything to change the facts for thinking people, but also exacerbates the problem and increases the losses. And how similar is your position today to their position approximately two decades ago. The mistakes of Brezhnev are being repeated by Bush, who -when asked about the date of his withdrawing of forces from Iraq- said in effect that the withdrawal will not be during his reign, but rather, during the reign of the one who succeeds him. And the significance of these words is not hidden.


And here I say: it would benefit you to listen to the poignant messages of your soldiers in Iraq who are paying- with their blood, nerves and scattered limbs- the price for these sorts of irresponsible statements. Among them is the eloquent message of Joshua which he sent by way of the media, in which he wipes the tears from his eyes and describes American politicians in harsh terms and invites them to join him there for a few days. Perhaps his message will find in you an attentive ear so you can rescue him and more than 150,000 of your sons there who are tasting the two bitterest things: if they leave their barracks, the mines devour them, and if they refuse to leave, rulings are passed against them. Thus, the only options left in front of them are to commit suicide or cry, both of which are from the severest of afflictions. So is there anything more men can do after crying and killing themselves to make you respond to them? They are doing that out of the severity of the humiliation, fear and terror which they are suffering. It is severer than what the slaves used to suffer at your hands centuries ago, and it is as if some of them have gone from one slavery to another slavery more severe and harmful, even if it be in the fancy dress of the Defense Department's financial enticements.


So do you feel the greatness of their suffering?


To conclude, I invite you to embrace Islam, for the greatest mistake one can make in this world and one which is uncorrectable is to die while not surrendering to Allah, the Most High, in all aspects of one's life -i.e., to die outside of Islam. And Islam means gain for you in this first life and the next, final life. The true religion is a mercy for people in their lives, filling their hearts with serenity and calm. There is a lesson for you in the Mujahideen: the entire world is in pursuit of them, yet their hearts, by the grace of Allah, are satisfied and tranquil. The true religion also puts peoples' lives in order with its laws; protects their needs and interests; refines their morals; protects them from evils; and guarantees for them entrance into Paradise in the hereater through their obedience to Allah and sincere worship of Him Alone. And it will also achieve your desire to stop the war as a consequence, because as soon as the warmongering owners of the major corporations realize that you have lost confidence in your democratic system and begun to search for an alternative, and that this alternative is Islam, they will run after you to please you and achieve what you want to steer you away from Islam.


So your true compliance with Islam will deprive them of the opportunity to defraud the peoples and take their money under numerous pretexts, like arms deals and so on. There are no taxes in Islam, but rather, there is a limited Zakaat [alms] totaling only 2.5% . So beware of the deception of those with the capital. And with your earnest reading about Islam from its pristine sources, you will arrive at an important truth, which is that the religion of all of the Prophets (peace and blessings of Allah be upon them) is one, and that its essence is submission to the orders of Allah Alone in all aspects of life, even if their Shari'ahs [Laws] differ. And did you know that the name of the Prophet of Allah Jesus and his mother (peace and blessings of Allah be upon them both) are mentioned in the Noble Quran dozens of times, and that in the Quran there is a chapter whose name is "Maryam", i.e. Mary, daughter of Imran and mother of Jesus (peace and blessings of Allah be upon them both)? It tells the story of her becoming pregnant with the Prophet of Allah Jesus (peace and blessings of Allah be upon them both), and in it is confirmation of her chastity and purity, in contrast to the fabrications of the Jews against her.


Whoever wishes to find that out for himself must listen to the verses of this magnificent chapter: one of the just kings of the Christians -the Negus- listened to some of its verses and his eyes welled up with tears and he said something which should be reflected on for a long time by those sincere in their search for the truth. He said, "Verily, this and what Jesus brought come from one lantern": i.e., that the magnificent Quran and the Evangel are both from Allah, the Most High; and every just and intelligent one of you who reflects on the Quran will definitely arrive at this truth. It also must be noted that Allah has preserved the Quran from the alterations of men. And reading in order to become acquainted with Islam only requires a little effort, and those of you who are guided will profit greatly.

And peace be upon he who follows the Guidance.


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[somewarez]

Hi thanks Positive Terror :)

And thankyou very much for the "script of Osama"

very informative I shall read it in more depth in the morning, its a little late here now to take in and understand all it says, but I am sure your post will help many others who needed such text of the video to easily make notes and research it

great post
Thanks again :)

[positive terror]

Hi thanks Positive Terror :)

And thankyou very much for the "script of Osama"

very informative I shall read it in more depth in the morning, its a little late here now to take in and understand all it says, but I am sure your post will help many others who needed such text of the video to easily make notes and research it

great post
Thanks again :)

You welcome , we are here to inform us and to inform. Its a pleasure.