Einstein was a fraud!!

[kadamose]

Einstein will be known, in future generations, as the biggest fraud in history - instead of the world's greatest mind. Einstein basically STOLE the idea of general relativity from Poincare and Lorentz, and then branded their work as his own. That's the official story, anyway - but the truth is, Poincare and Lorentz STOLE the idea of general relativity from a man named Ruđer Bošković, who came up with the idea of General Relativity 200 years prior.

Nikola Tesla, the world's greatest inventor/genius/scientist/humanitarian had this to say about General Relativity: "...the relativity theory, by the way, is much older than its present proponents. It was advanced over 200 years ago by my illustrious countryman Ruđer Bošković, the great philosopher, who, not withstanding other and multifold obligations, wrote a thousand volumes of excellent literature on a vast variety of subjects. Bošković dealt with relativity, including the so-called time-space continuum..."

Nikola Tesla, himself, did not believe in General Relativity because it disposes of the Aether (i.e. zero point energy/universal consciousness) - this is what he had to say about it: "General Relativity is a magnificent mathematical garb which fascinates, dazzles and makes people blind to the underlying errors. The theory is like a beggar clothed in purple whom ignorant people take for a king..., its exponents are brilliant men but they are metaphysicists rather than scientists...

I hold that space cannot be curved, for the simple reason that it can have no properties. It might as well be said that God has properties. He has not, but only attributes and these are of our own making. Of properties we can only speak when dealing with matter filling the space. To say that in the presence of large bodies space becomes curved is equivalent to stating that something can act upon nothing. I, for one, refuse to subscribe to such a view."

Tesla, in 1936, said that he finally figured out how the universe and gravity worked, and wrote a book titled The Dynamic Theory of Gravity. Unfortunately, the book was never published and upon his death in 1943, the FBI raided his home and confiscated all of his research and notes. Nikola Tesla is the one who deserves ALL of the credit for the majority of today's technology (as well as the technologies of the future) - but since he was not one of 'them' (them, of course, being the Illuminati and their ilk), he was written out of history and forgotten by the majority of mankind.

[cleft_asunder]

It's not that he wasn't one of them, although that has significance. It's that he wasn't allowed to tell the truth about the multiverse, because the plan is to deprive us all that is good, through the suppression of truth.

[revolutionary_jam]

Aw come on, how can you hate Einstein? the man was amazing, don't agree with all his opinions, but he said some really wonderful things:

Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction."
"Imagination is more important than knowledge."
"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."
"The only real valuable thing is intuition."
"I never think of the future. It comes soon enough."
"Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new."
"Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak minds."
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler."
"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen."
"The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education."
"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
"Education is what remains after one has forgotten everything he learned in school."

and lots more!

And this one especially for you:
"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."

[kadamose]

Aw come on, how can you hate Einstein? the man was amazing, don't agree with all his opinions, but he said some really wonderful things:

Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction."
"Imagination is more important than knowledge."
"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."
"The only real valuable thing is intuition."
"I never think of the future. It comes soon enough."
"Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new."
"Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak minds."
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler."
"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen."
"The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education."
"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
"Education is what remains after one has forgotten everything he learned in school."

and lots more!

And this one especially for you:
"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."

Knowing him, he probably plagiarized those quotes too.

[kblood]

Nikola Tesla, the world's greatest inventor/genius/scientist/humanitarian had this to say about General Relativity: "...the relativity theory, by the way, is much older than its present proponents. It was advanced over 200 years ago by my illustrious countryman Ruđer Bošković, the great philosopher, who, not withstanding other and multifold obligations, wrote a thousand volumes of excellent literature on a vast variety of subjects. Bošković dealt with relativity, including the so-called time-space continuum..."

Nikola Tesla, himself, did not believe in General Relativity because it disposes of the Aether (i.e. zero point energy/universal consciousness) - this is what he had to say about it: "General Relativity is a magnificent mathematical garb which fascinates, dazzles and makes people blind to the underlying errors. The theory is like a beggar clothed in purple whom ignorant people take for a king..., its exponents are brilliant men but they are metaphysicists rather than scientists...

I hold that space cannot be curved, for the simple reason that it can have no properties. It might as well be said that God has properties. He has not, but only attributes and these are of our own making. Of properties we can only speak when dealing with matter filling the space. To say that in the presence of large bodies space becomes curved is equivalent to stating that something can act upon nothing. I, for one, refuse to subscribe to such a view."


Im not saying Tesla was not brilliant, but I do not see how the theory of relativity disproves or pisposes zero point energy / universal conciousness. I was lucky enough to have my second math teacher tell me about some of the theories about 0 and to divide by zero. As I see it, god and universal conciousness is in everything that is impossible. Therefore I do not believe it is against the theory of relativity. The theory of relativity is just based on all there is and what we can measure. What we cannot measure though, is where we find the divine. Simply because it is beyond us and what we can measure.

One thing I am wondering about though is that it does seem this zero point energy and what it might be and how it might fill the holes in many theories. F.ex. one of my beliefs is that when an equation "crosses" infinity, it goes from the positive end of the equation to the negative end, and starts over again... which therefore makes it infinite. We cannot find the point where it happens though, since it is about the same as finding a true 0 measurement of something.

As for space being curved... I do believe space is either expanding or retracting. If it is to be infinite, then it must be expanding. Since everything else in our universe is basicly round balls, due to the laws of gravity, then the universe as well must be curved, and probably even somewhat round and a cosmic scale. Since it then must also be expanding, it then makes it infinite. My own theories about finding the "edge" of space might be like finding the edge of an equation, you end up at the other end of it.

Since it is all theories, and theories that are quite hard to prove or disprove, then I am not sure we can really conclude anything from discussing it, still it is something I like to discuss :) Maybe I get to adjust my theories to new information :) I really only have the most basic of education to base my theories on so far :( I guess I ought to read up on it all a abit more.

[kadamose]

As for space being curved... I do believe space is either expanding or retracting.


Sounds like dogma to me...

[father ted]

They're all frauds. Every last fucking one of "them".

[ashyr]

its not hard to say smart shit,

if u cant fool most of the people most of the time...

[nickatnoon61]

Einstein will be known, in future generations, as the biggest fraud in history - instead of the world's greatest mind. Einstein basically STOLE the idea of general relativity from Poincare and Lorentz, and then branded their work as his own. That's the official story, anyway - but the truth is, Poincare and Lorentz STOLE the idea of general relativity from a man named Ru?er Boškovi?, who came up with the idea of General Relativity 200 years prior.

Nikola Tesla, the world's greatest inventor/genius/scientist/humanitarian had this to say about General Relativity: "...the relativity theory, by the way, is much older than its present proponents. It was advanced over 200 years ago by my illustrious countryman Ru?er Boškovi?, the great philosopher, who, not withstanding other and multifold obligations, wrote a thousand volumes of excellent literature on a vast variety of subjects. Boškovi? dealt with relativity, including the so-called time-space continuum..."

Nikola Tesla, himself, did not believe in General Relativity because it disposes of the Aether (i.e. zero point energy/universal consciousness) - this is what he had to say about it: "General Relativity is a magnificent mathematical garb which fascinates, dazzles and makes people blind to the underlying errors. The theory is like a beggar clothed in purple whom ignorant people take for a king..., its exponents are brilliant men but they are metaphysicists rather than scientists...

I hold that space cannot be curved, for the simple reason that it can have no properties. It might as well be said that God has properties. He has not, but only attributes and these are of our own making. Of properties we can only speak when dealing with matter filling the space. To say that in the presence of large bodies space becomes curved is equivalent to stating that something can act upon nothing. I, for one, refuse to subscribe to such a view."

Tesla, in 1936, said that he finally figured out how the universe and gravity worked, and wrote a book titled The Dynamic Theory of Gravity. Unfortunately, the book was never published and upon his death in 1943, the FBI raided his home and confiscated all of his research and notes. Nikola Tesla is the one who deserves ALL of the credit for the majority of today's technology (as well as the technologies of the future) - but since he was not one of 'them' (them, of course, being the Illuminati and their ilk), he was written out of history and forgotten by the majority of mankind.
Yes, kadamose,and Tesla also was quoted as saying,"never trust a Jew"! Now maybe a few will wake up and understand their deceit and treachery!

[king]

Einstein will be known, in future generations, as the biggest fraud in history - instead of the world's greatest mind. Einstein basically STOLE the idea of general relativity from Poincare and Lorentz, and then branded their work as his own. That's the official story, anyway - but the truth is, Poincare and Lorentz STOLE the idea of general relativity from a man named Ruđer Bošković, who came up with the idea of General Relativity 200 years prior.

Nikola Tesla, the world's greatest inventor/genius/scientist/humanitarian had this to say about General Relativity: "...the relativity theory, by the way, is much older than its present proponents. It was advanced over 200 years ago by my illustrious countryman Ruđer Bošković, the great philosopher, who, not withstanding other and multifold obligations, wrote a thousand volumes of excellent literature on a vast variety of subjects. Bošković dealt with relativity, including the so-called time-space continuum..."

Nikola Tesla, himself, did not believe in General Relativity because it disposes of the Aether (i.e. zero point energy/universal consciousness) - this is what he had to say about it: "General Relativity is a magnificent mathematical garb which fascinates, dazzles and makes people blind to the underlying errors. The theory is like a beggar clothed in purple whom ignorant people take for a king..., its exponents are brilliant men but they are metaphysicists rather than scientists...

I hold that space cannot be curved, for the simple reason that it can have no properties. It might as well be said that God has properties. He has not, but only attributes and these are of our own making. Of properties we can only speak when dealing with matter filling the space. To say that in the presence of large bodies space becomes curved is equivalent to stating that something can act upon nothing. I, for one, refuse to subscribe to such a view."

Tesla, in 1936, said that he finally figured out how the universe and gravity worked, and wrote a book titled The Dynamic Theory of Gravity. Unfortunately, the book was never published and upon his death in 1943, the FBI raided his home and confiscated all of his research and notes. Nikola Tesla is the one who deserves ALL of the credit for the majority of today's technology (as well as the technologies of the future) - but since he was not one of 'them' (them, of course, being the Illuminati and their ilk), he was written out of history and forgotten by the majority of mankind.

excellent find.
i always considered Tesla to be a true scientist, true genius and true humanitarian.
on other hand Einstein was just someone who tried to mechanistically explain the universe, and he of course failed miserably.
Tesla's work that could have benefirted the humanity was supressed.

on other hand Einstain's "work" that was basically steeling of ideas from some of the patents that he had access to was then used by him as "science fiction" material for his usually B.S. theories that were promoted by the elite.

Tesla understood lot more about the universe that Einstain ever did.

[dane]

i still like Einsteins quotes :)

[cruise4]

I don't know enough about this stuff either, but Toroids, Waves, Inversions and Gravity seem instinctively viable components.

[kblood]

Sounds like dogma to me...

Dogma how? Do you believe the universe to just be infinite and therefore never expanding or retracting in anyway?

For the universe to truly be infinite, I do not see the logic in it simply being infinite. It seems much more likely that it is becomming more and more infinite. Maybe there arent edges of spaces, but simply black void, where galaxies have not evolved to. As I see it galaxies are something that comes into being like everything. It happens over several million years maybe, but still it makes for an explanation.

Maybe you believe that big bang happened and then it all just was? The universe got created in a giant blast, and then stopped expanding or retracting?

I do not see how Einsteins theory of relativity being a stolen idea from other scientists, makes it less viable. What is it you do not believe in the theory of relativity? I cannot say it is 100% correct, but it does show that all matter is compressed energy, if it is true are at least part true. Something Icke agrees with, and I do think Tesla agrees with him as well.

I better go read some of Tesla work before I write anymore :o

[i_am]

Tesla's work has hasn't been lost seeing as how they are using it today. They just aren't using it for good.

[kblood]

The website

www.soulsofdistortion.nl

Free e book in the top left hand corner...

Its a tour de force...

Name ONE that can touch it as a Cosmology...

I would be sure interested...

Regards Maha

This book is quite interesting. It seems to be based on some of the things you write about Kadamose. Also I think I can better explain what I have been trying to explain with it.

One of the chapters of the book explains about chaos theory. That the laws of physics, nature probably even time, is not unbreakable laws. That the rules gives everything balance, but doesnt make everything predictable. One of the basics in the belief behind chaos theory is that scientists make a major error when disregarding test results that doesnt fit in with the others. If test results is somehow unexplainable and random, then it is disregarded. This is however the core of the chaos theory. That there will always be deviations from the rules we find and make.

Many times in my life I have experienced first hand that what most believe to be fact and certainty about our existance and the laws of everything around us, simply is not enough. There are too many things that cannot be explained by science alone, as it is commonly viewed today. Science as this book tells about, has several times encountered barriers that cannot be explained. Unmeasurable dimensions that must be there to give sense to the discoveries made in labs. It is not something that is talked about in general, since it shows too many flaws in what our science today is based on, but it does seem to become more and more apparant. More books are written about this each year it seems.

So to get back to the theory of relativity from this, I still see it as likely. The only certain flaw it has is chaos theory that is and always will be a flaw in every natural law we have found.

I also read a bit about Tesla, but havent managed to find much about him. However it seems that he was able to make his many discoveries very much due to his not following the ways of normal science. He simply skipped most steps of an experiment that most scientists of the time would do first, by doing those experiements in his head. Since he obviously was a genious he did seem to be quite succesfull at simulating experiments in his head first, saving what must be several years of experimenting total. Also he did not try to prove every single step of his experiments according to Newton, which is probably the main reason he was disregarded so much. His succes was later the reason for the cover ups of his works, which is quite sad. If I could get my hands of some of his unpublished books, I bet they would be very interesting to read.

[kblood]

Tesla's work has hasn't been lost seeing as how they are using it today. They just aren't using it for good.

I am not fully certain of this. His work is most likely being used, but I do not thing it is only used for "evil". I think his free energy might also be unstable or dangerous, as most energy sources is, and that could be the reason it is not used for the good of all mankind. If it was in the wrong hands, it could most likely be used for weapons that could make small countries too powerfull to control. Imagine if Saddam Hussein had this kind of technology, and used it to defend his beliefs? If he had used it to gain control of the middle east?

Somethings are probably best kept secret, untill we are ready for them.

[nickatnoon61]

Tesla's work has hasn't been lost seeing as how they are using it today. They just aren't using it for good.

GOOD POINT I_AM!!!

[thetonic]

Einstein was once asked what he thought the greatest discovery to human kind was ... You would have thought he would say "the theory of relativity" Nope... According to Einstien the greatest discovery of the 20th cetury was ta dah ; COMPOUND INTEREST!!! :eek:

Sounds kinda batty to me?

[thetonic]

Which if anyone knows banking ... This idea or mathematical equation is a basic form of usury ... way to fall into a jewish stereotype there Einstien! :confused:

[nickatnoon61]

Which if anyone knows banking ... This idea or mathematical equation is a basic form of usury ... way to fall into a jewish stereotype there Einstien! :confused:
Why am I NOT surprised at all!?!?:eek:

[kadamose]

Dogma how? Do you believe the universe to just be infinite and therefore never expanding or retracting in anyway?

For the universe to truly be infinite, I do not see the logic in it simply being infinite. It seems much more likely that it is becomming more and more infinite. Maybe there arent edges of spaces, but simply black void, where galaxies have not evolved to. As I see it galaxies are something that comes into being like everything. It happens over several million years maybe, but still it makes for an explanation.

Maybe you believe that big bang happened and then it all just was? The universe got created in a giant blast, and then stopped expanding or retracting?

I do not see how Einsteins theory of relativity being a stolen idea from other scientists, makes it less viable. What is it you do not believe in the theory of relativity? I cannot say it is 100% correct, but it does show that all matter is compressed energy, if it is true are at least part true. Something Icke agrees with, and I do think Tesla agrees with him as well.

I better go read some of Tesla work before I write anymore :o

I think Mark Twain summed it up nicely, and he wasn't even a scientist. "Nothing exists except empty space and you - and you are but a thought." What this basically implies, is that we literally mold the universe to our liking - if we believe it to be expanding and contracting, then it shall be so. Quantum Mechanics is already proving this 'theory' - we live in a universe of infinite possibilities, but only if it's not being observed. If it is being observed, 'infinite possibility' suddenly becomes 'limited possibility' since it takes the form of our current belief systems.

Oh, and Mark Twain was Nikola Tesla's best friend. I think that says a lot about him.

[kblood]

Tesla -The lost Wizard (Biography) (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=448493458864593229&q=tesla&total=3486&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1)

Einstein explains his relativity theory (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6583624567557136153&q=einstein+wrong&total=57&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2)

Einsteins view on aether (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6583624567557136153&q=einstein+wrong&total=57&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2)

It seems the relativity theory has become a general relativity theory. We cannot measure everything, and I think that is because not everything exists in our dimension alone. This is what some scientists has come to believe as well. It is also some of the logic behind the chaos theory, from what I have read.

Einstein does not deny the existance of aether, he actually says it is unthinkable to have space without aether.

So why is it that Einsteins theories does not acknowledge the existance of aether? I do not see why that is. I think that the reason many are skeptic about Einstein is because his theories could further atheistic beliefs... but Einstein certainly was no atheist himself. On the contrary, the more he discovered, the more he came to believe in god.

[kblood]

I think Mark Twain summed it up nicely, and he wasn't even a scientist. "Nothing exists except empty space and you - and you are but a thought." What this basically implies, is that we literally mold the universe to our liking - if we believe it to be expanding and contracting, then it shall be so. Quantum Mechanics is already proving this 'theory' - we live in a universe of infinite possibilities, but only if it's not being observed. If it is being observed, 'infinite possibility' suddenly becomes 'limited possibility' since it takes the form of our current belief systems.

Oh, and Mark Twain was Nikola Tesla's best friend. I think that says a lot about him.

I agree with all this. Having now seen and read more about Nikola Tesla, I am a believer :) Seems he is the reason we have UFO's flying around. At least it seems that UFO technology might become public very soon. I read about a scientist who built a UFO, that seems to be based on Tesla's theories.
Public UFO :) (http://www.tudelft.nl/live/pagina.jsp?id=96dc8a54-b889-4296-8e6b-3f1e96058b5f)
I read about it in Science Illustrated :) I am sure many more of Tesla's inventions will resurface soon. It is only a matter of time.

Edited: After reading the more about the CleanEra, it seems it is not near the perfection of Tesla's original plan. Also they seem to have rediscovered it on its own. Teslas UFO was to be able to reach 18000 miles per hour, without using much energi at all.

[mada88]

The thing is a new theory is just something that has been re-discovered. The ancients probably knew about the theories of today. As you go forward you are really going back.

[dondaz]

Now this is an interesting thread. I have read a bit of Tesla material and find his inventions facinating.

Forget Guiness, Tesla was pure genius. He made Science Fiction a reality!

I'm not informed enough to elaberate on the pro's and cons of the universe, relativity and time (there is no time:eek:), but carry on with this thread, it's enlighening and could get better.

Good thread Kadamose:)

[gorana]

We know that Illuminazis discover something and only years later they told or show us something. Remember Columbus? Now we think Einstein is theirs too?

Well what if... If they show us years in future that they managed to make UFOs?

Yes, Tesla was special, Tesla was genious. I know it...

G.

[kblood]

We know that Illuminazis discover something and only years later they told or show us something. Remember Columbus? Now we think Einstein is theirs too?

Well what if... If they show us years in future that they managed to make UFOs?

Yes, Tesla was special, Tesla was genious. I know it...

G.

I do not think Einstein was theirs. His views are simply too optimistic. They probably have tried to make others view Einsteins research in ways they found more fitting, and less revealing, but he certainly was not all wrong. Everything and everyone can be disproven though, that is what the chaos theory is about I think. That nothing is ever truly certain.

As for the UFOs, there are many things that indicate that they have made UFOs, and they have probably been around for at least 50 years, maybe more. They keep being improved I think. I believe the stealth technology was something they perfected maybe 12 years ago, maybe more. Seems the only way to detect them now is with heat or energy sensors. In the UFO channel on this site, there should be something about how to capture UFOs on camera, but it still needs to be special cameras.

At some point it has to be revealed. Hard to say when though, but I am kinda hoping it will be soon. I dont like to be kept in the dark :o

[i_am]

I am not fully certain of this. His work is most likely being used, but I do not thing it is only used for "evil".
Somethings are probably best kept secret, untill we are ready for them.

One word :)

HAARP!

Just one link :)

http://nexusmagazine.com//articles/haarp.html

[abrilliantone]

He so was one I asked for some info on this guy a while back in another thread and this was the info that was giving to me. http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6289

[kadamose]

Basically, if you're not one of 'them', you won't be remembered throughout history, simply due to the fact that 'they' control the media. Therefore, it's easy to spot these people - if they're rich and famous and well known throughout the world, or have a SIR tacked to the front of their name, then yes, they are one of 'them'. Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean that they are very high up in the Illuminati pyramid - it just means that they are a part of the pyramid in some fashion.

When we talk about the 'Illuminati pyramid', we're not just talking about the powerful few who control the masses like cattle. No, we're talking about MILLIONS of people who sometimes don't even know that they are pawns in an Illuminati chess game.

Einstein was definitely a part of this pyramid - no question.

[kblood]

Basically, if you're not one of 'them', you won't be remembered throughout history, simply due to the fact that 'they' control the media. Therefore, it's easy to spot these people - if they're rich and famous and well known throughout the world, or have a SIR tacked to the front of their name, then yes, they are one of 'them'. Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean that they are very high up in the Illuminati pyramid - it just means that they are a part of the pyramid in some fashion.

When we talk about the 'Illuminati pyramid', we're not just talking about the powerful few who control the masses like cattle. No, we're talking about MILLIONS of people who sometimes don't even know that they are pawns in an Illuminati chess game.

Einstein was definitely a part of this pyramid - no question.

Yea, I am beginning to be convinced about this as well... I dont really see most scientists as comming up with their own ideas anyway though :p Usually they are just rediscovering something. Einstein does sum up quite alot though, no matter what his sources are, or whatever sources he is given.

The fact that he then probably was quite dumb also makes sense then. The favorite pawns of the Illuminati seems to be nearly retards, since they do not ask as many questions. Any Illuminati with high IQ would probably rather stay hidden, than exposing him or herself to the world. Some seem to think themselves clever enough to masquerade in the public as well as working for the NWO though.

HAARP seems like one of the very good reasons not to share this technology with too many. See how many got their own homemade teslacoils these days? Thanks for the link I_Am :)

And the link to the other Einstein thread sure made it easier to see how very likely it is that Einstein was a puppet front figure for scientific breakthroughs, that probably arent his own at all. Thanks for linking that Abrilliantone :)

[kadamose]

Yea, I am beginning to be convinced about this as well... I dont really see most scientists as comming up with their own ideas anyway though :p Usually they are just rediscovering something. Einstein does sum up quite alot though, no matter what his sources are, or whatever sources he is given.

The fact that he then probably was quite dumb also makes sense then. The favorite pawns of the Illuminati seems to be nearly retards, since they do not ask as many questions. Any Illuminati with high IQ would probably rather stay hidden, than exposing him or herself to the world. Some seem to think themselves clever enough to masquerade in the public as well as working for the NWO though.

HAARP seems like one of the very good reasons not to share this technology with too many. See how many got their own homemade teslacoils these days? Thanks for the link I_Am :)

And the link to the other Einstein thread sure made it easier to see how very likely it is that Einstein was a puppet front figure for scientific breakthroughs, that probably arent his own at all. Thanks for linking that Abrilliantone :)

Relativity was designed and supported specifically to remove the Aether from physics textbooks - and this was accomplished; none of the physics textbooks today mention anything about the Aether. Einstein may have believed in the Aether to an extent, but 'his' Relativity theory leaves no room for it; the same applies to String Theory (which is why String Theory is wrong).

The Aether was removed for the simple reason that it's the answer to everything - it's the unified field theory of everything! If humanity understood the Aether, we would understand our origins, and thus, be liberated. The last thing that the people in power want is for us to have the answers - especially the answers of existence, itself.

[kblood]

Relativity was designed and supported specifically to remove the Aether from physics textbooks - and this was accomplished; none of the physics textbooks today mention anything about the Aether. Einstein may have believed in the Aether to an extent, but 'his' Relativity theory leaves no room for it; the same applies to String Theory (which is why String Theory is wrong).

The Aether was removed for the simple reason that it's the answer to everything - it's the unified field theory of everything! If humanity understood the Aether, we would understand our origins, and thus, be liberated. The last thing that the people in power want is for us to have the answers - especially the answers of existence, itself.

Yup, I agree with you on that one. I have written about it before, the mysterious 0. I did not now that it was also called Aether untill I saw this thread... I feared it was so hush hush, that there wasnt any public webpages about it. Having a name for it, it is easier to find out more about it :) So far I have learned alot from this thread. Some of the things that I came to this forum looking for :D I havent thought about aether could possibly be a logical part of the relativity equation, but if that could be made, it sure would be alot more usefull in many ways.

I have been looking through the UFO section/channel in this forum, and it seems that the Germans before and during WW2 made their own UFOs. I believe that Tesla might have gotten his ideas from what I would call oneness, or some other kind of shared conciousness. Seems that some of his ideas did not occour to him alone. Would be nice to see wether Tesla's UFO designs or the German UFO designs are the most effective. Unfortunatley I do not think Teslas designs can be found, and there are at most sketches of the german designs.

[kadamose]

Yup, I agree with you on that one. I have written about it before, the mysterious 0. I did not now that it was also called Aether untill I saw this thread... I feared it was so hush hush, that there wasnt any public webpages about it. Having a name for it, it is easier to find out more about it :) So far I have learned alot from this thread. Some of the things that I came to this forum looking for :D I havent thought about aether could possibly be a logical part of the relativity equation, but if that could be made, it sure would be alot more usefull in many ways.

I have been looking through the UFO section/channel in this forum, and it seems that the Germans before and during WW2 made their own UFOs. I believe that Tesla might have gotten his ideas from what I would call oneness, or some other kind of shared conciousness. Seems that some of his ideas did not occour to him alone. Would be nice to see wether Tesla's UFO designs or the German UFO designs are the most effective. Unfortunatley I do not think Teslas designs can be found, and there are at most sketches of the german designs.


Actually, Tesla claimed in his biography that he was an alien 'avatar' born to earth parents and that he didn't actually start having visions until he almost died when he was a teen. I have no doubt, whatsoever, that Tesla was able to tap into Universal Consciousness (i.e. Akashic Records) and that he was being guided in some form.

You really should read his biography - it's a very good read. The more I learn about Tesla, the more I become convinced that he was the greatest human being to ever grace this planet. He's an example of what we all should aspire to be.

[king]

Basically, if you're not one of 'them', you won't be remembered throughout history, simply due to the fact that 'they' control the media. Therefore, it's easy to spot these people - if they're rich and famous and well known throughout the world, or have a SIR tacked to the front of their name, then yes, they are one of 'them'. Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean that they are very high up in the Illuminati pyramid - it just means that they are a part of the pyramid in some fashion.

exactly my sentiments as well!

When we talk about the 'Illuminati pyramid', we're not just talking about the powerful few who control the masses like cattle. No, we're talking about MILLIONS of people who sometimes don't even know that they are pawns in an Illuminati chess game.

excellent observation. I too have understood this -- that Illuminati pyramid is supported by little Einsteins and little Hittlers as well. That is why they are given recognition or power or whatever they crave for -- they are the servants of the system.
BUT, I think that is pretty much impossible not to know that you are serving the system when you can see that someone is opening the doors for you and slamming doors on others that are as qualified as you are or what is even more common --- even more qualified.



Einstein was definitely a part of this pyramid - no question.

and must have known that, even if he had couple of brain cells.




You really should read his biography - it's a very good read. The more I learn about Tesla, the more I become convinced that he was the greatest human being to ever grace this planet. He's an example of what we all should aspire to be.
I Bow Down to those words!

[kblood]

Actually, Tesla claimed in his biography that he was an alien 'avatar' born to earth parents and that he didn't actually start having visions until he almost died when he was a teen. I have no doubt, whatsoever, that Tesla was able to tap into Universal Consciousness (i.e. Akashic Records) and that he was being guided in some form.

You really should read his biography - it's a very good read. The more I learn about Tesla, the more I become convinced that he was the greatest human being to ever grace this planet. He's an example of what we all should aspire to be.

In the video biography of Tesla I linked, it does describe him a bit. He seems to have lived his live only to inspire and teach others of his discoveries. He only began earning money and making patents, so he could do his research and experiments. So far I havent found anything selfish done by Telsa yet... which in a way is a bit disturbing. He did not even have time to accept the love of a woman who was very devoted to him.

I will try to find his full biography. Sounds like it could be a very nice read.

[gorana]

Tesla was genious and at same time he was crazy. All he cared was pictures he had in his head... All these units he imagined and later built. He even said once that he just builds machine in his head first and tests everything and does calculations and then he simply builds it in real world.

Tesla was a person which described genius and madness in one person.

G.

[gold]

Einstein will be known, in future generations, as the biggest fraud in history - instead of the world's greatest mind. Einstein basically STOLE the idea of general relativity from Poincare and Lorentz, and then branded their work as his own. That's the official story, anyway - but the truth is, Poincare and Lorentz STOLE the idea of general relativity from a man named Ruđer Bošković, who came up with the idea of General Relativity 200 years prior.

Nikola Tesla, the world's greatest inventor/genius/scientist/humanitarian had this to say about General Relativity: "...the relativity theory, by the way, is much older than its present proponents. It was advanced over 200 years ago by my illustrious countryman Ruđer Bošković, the great philosopher, who, not withstanding other and multifold obligations, wrote a thousand volumes of excellent literature on a vast variety of subjects. Bošković dealt with relativity, including the so-called time-space continuum..."

Nikola Tesla, himself, did not believe in General Relativity because it disposes of the Aether (i.e. zero point energy/universal consciousness) - this is what he had to say about it: "General Relativity is a magnificent mathematical garb which fascinates, dazzles and makes people blind to the underlying errors. The theory is like a beggar clothed in purple whom ignorant people take for a king..., its exponents are brilliant men but they are metaphysicists rather than scientists...

I hold that space cannot be curved, for the simple reason that it can have no properties. It might as well be said that God has properties. He has not, but only attributes and these are of our own making. Of properties we can only speak when dealing with matter filling the space. To say that in the presence of large bodies space becomes curved is equivalent to stating that something can act upon nothing. I, for one, refuse to subscribe to such a view."

Tesla, in 1936, said that he finally figured out how the universe and gravity worked, and wrote a book titled The Dynamic Theory of Gravity. Unfortunately, the book was never published and upon his death in 1943, the FBI raided his home and confiscated all of his research and notes. Nikola Tesla is the one who deserves ALL of the credit for the majority of today's technology (as well as the technologies of the future) - but since he was not one of 'them' (them, of course, being the Illuminati and their ilk), he was written out of history and forgotten by the majority of mankind.

The trouble with all this jargon, people can't understand it!
We have been led to believe that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light. When we all get our heads around these complicated facts they give us, we will find Quantum Physics is mere ABC. We will then understand the fascinating life of the tachyon, which everyone seems to ignore.
Y+b=z=a=2xz is all (bollocks) another way of keeping us in ignorance.

SIMPLICITY!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's all it takes, and a bit of logic????????????

This is stuff the Illuminati don't want you to know, The Einstein way is

the hard way, that's why half of us just don't get it!
Do you think the Illuminati are all! Y=Z=B+2-0 ? No no no no no There not that clever, They need simple language such as; £$ well you know what I mean!!! But I would look into the Tachyon, MYSSSTERIOUSSSSSSSSSSSS:eek:

[i_am]

Tesla was a person which described genius and madness in one person.

G.

'tis a very fine line that defines genius and what is perceived as insanity ;)

[i_am]

Originally Posted by kadamose
Basically, if you're not one of 'them', you won't be remembered throughout history, simply due to the fact that 'they' control the media. Therefore, it's easy to spot these people - if they're rich and famous and well known throughout the world, or have a SIR tacked to the front of their name, then yes, they are one of 'them'. Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean that they are very high up in the Illuminati pyramid - it just means that they are a part of the pyramid in some fashion.

These are people with huge egos and therefore easily manipulated and used by the powers that be.

[kadamose]

The fact that these Illuminati scumbags MURDERED Tesla (by poison) is a travesty in itself. These people need to be exposed and then executed; otherwise, they're going to keep on doing what they've always been doing: hiding the truth, and then creating a huge lie that eventually is believed to be the truth.

Death to the Illuminati and all of their vile systems of control!

[i_am]

Interesting article

http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20070405.htm

discussion and links:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread280841/pg1

[kadamose]

Interesting article

http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20070405.htm

discussion and links:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread280841/pg1

Great links, that cover a lot of good information to the uninformed.

If I were an individual who believed in the scam known as religion, I would think that Tesla was the second coming of Christ - he was an amazing human being who tried so hard to bring paradise to this planet, but was foiled by evil, greedy, stupid individuals. When is the human race ever going to learn? When is this nonsense going to end?

[gold]

Aw come on, how can you hate Einstein? the man was amazing, don't agree with all his opinions, but he said some really wonderful things:

Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction."
"Imagination is more important than knowledge."
"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."
"The only real valuable thing is intuition."
"I never think of the future. It comes soon enough."
"Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new."
"Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak minds."
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler."
"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen."
"The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education."
"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
"Education is what remains after one has forgotten everything he learned in school."

and lots more!

And this one especially for you:
"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."

Hi! There, I like what you have wrote and I agree with you.
The FBI had secret files on Albert Einstein (Honorary Chairman of three red groups) The bureau was always checking him out, Why? The FBI files indicate that Einstein was a member, sponsor or affiliated with 34 so-called Communist fronts between 1937 and 1954 and honorary chairman of three Communist organisations. But I think he knew the FBI were onto him so kept his nose clean. Very shrewed man our Einstein!

[gold]

excellent find.
i always considered Tesla to be a true scientist, true genius and true humanitarian.
on other hand Einstein was just someone who tried to mechanistically explain the universe, and he of course failed miserably.
Tesla's work that could have benefirted the humanity was supressed.

on other hand Einstain's "work" that was basically steeling of ideas from some of the patents that he had access to was then used by him as "science fiction" material for his usually B.S. theories that were promoted by the elite.

Tesla understood lot more about the universe that Einstain ever did.

I disagree, Einstein knew more than he was letting on. He just knew when to keep his mouth shut, that way he got to live to a good old age enjoying his own private work.

[kadamose]

I disagree, Einstein knew more than he was letting on. He just knew when to keep his mouth shut, that way he got to live to a good old age enjoying his own private work.

That's exactly what they want you to believe, goldy. Truth is, Einstein had no value, whatsoever; as I said, he was used as a puppet to usher in 'Relativity' which literally destroyed 'Aether physics' at the time -- and that was the goal.

[gold]

That's exactly what they want you to believe, goldy. Truth is, Einstein had no value, whatsoever; as I said, he was used as a puppet to usher in 'Relativity' which literally destroyed 'Aether physics' at the time -- and that was the goal.

But he could have kept a lot of home truths hidden? Many puppets do, don't you think? I have been reading up today about what you mentioned about 'Aether physics' this is really interesting stuff, I must finish reading on about it. Have you read the book yet by Mark McCucheon, The final Theory?
If so is it worth reading? Goldy!

[kblood]

I guess one thing that makes aether something that has to be is, where did it all begin? Somehow everything came from nothing, and if aether is this nothing, then it seems the perfect building stone from which out universe came from. Aether has such a aether density in it that I guess the density in aether is enough to disprove Einsteins theory of relativity. I still like that theory, since it is what made me realise that all matter is compressed energy.

So... empty space does not exist. I still like to point out that Einstein did not try to disprove aether himself, and while I do not really see his theory of relativity able to support aether, and probably not dark matter as well, but Einstein still did not seem to be a loyal puppet. Actually I recently stumpled upon a guy who has adjusted the equation for the theory of relativity, formulas for prime numbers and other things as well. He is trying to perfect it all, and so far he claims to have made it possible to find all prime numbers after 2.
http://www.myspace.com/franklinformula

You will find it in his blog. He is a member of a Zero Point Energy group on MySpace, and I am trying to see if they come up with something interesting there.

[sunyatta60]

[QUOTE=kadamose;120201]Einstein will be known, in future generations, as the biggest fraud in history -

I cannot agree with you Einstein never claimed that his Theory was foolproof he expected future generations to come along and pick great holes in it. Look at the problems he had with Quantum Physics, he disliked what the experiments were saying to him and that is basically no Objective reality can exist independently of the mind. Physicist are now much closer to proving this but they have had to stand on the shoulders of Giants like Einstein. remember Einstein was marginalised and attacked by those who hold to the mainstream which they call Consensus Science. Those with the power use Consensus Science to stop people ascertaining knowledge that will be beneficial to us the Human race.
To denigrate a great Scientist and Pacifist like Einstein because he happened to think of a theory that others had thought of before is in my view myopic. Like Goethe said 'Everything has been thought of before the art is to think of it again before anyone else does'.
Einstein was in the right place at the right time thanks to him we are much closer to understand the nature of reality, which is just one giant illusion.


When one person tells a lie, countless others tell it as a Truth.
Mu

[kadamose]

I cannot agree with you Einstein never claimed that his Theory was foolproof he expected future generations to come along and pick great holes in it. Look at the problems he had with Quantum Physics, he disliked what the experiments were saying to him and that is basically no Objective reality can exist independently of the mind. Physicist are now much closer to proving this but they have had to stand on the shoulders of Giants like Einstein. remember Einstein was marginalised and attacked by those who hold to the mainstream which they call Consensus Science. Those with the power use Consensus Science to stop people ascertaining knowledge that will be beneficial to us the Human race.
To denigrate a great Scientist and Pacifist like Einstein because he happened to think of a theory that others had thought of before is in my view myopic. Like Goethe said 'Everything has been thought of before the art is to think of it again before anyone else does'.
Einstein was in the right place at the right time thanks to him we are much closer to understand the nature of reality, which is just one giant illusion.


When one person tells a lie, countless others tell it as a Truth.
Mu

Yes, it is true that he plagiarized the Relativity theory, but that was not the basis of my argument. The fact is, RELATIVITY is a crock of shit, and is being proven wrong on a daily basis. You can believe what you want, but as far as relativity is concerned, it does not belong in MY reality, and I refuse to ever subscribe to such a belief.

[sunyatta60]

Yes, it is true that he plagiarized the Relativity theory, but that was not the basis of my argument. The fact is, RELATIVITY is a crock of shit, and is being proven wrong on a daily basis. You can believe what you want, but as far as relativity is concerned, it does not belong in MY reality, and I refuse to ever subscribe to such a belief.

Like I said there is nothing New to learn we have had all of the answers before because we have all been here many times before. Einstein Never claimed that the theory of Relativity was the final theory he said others would come along and take it apart. That is now being done, someone mentioned the Aether but there is not one, the speed of light is constant in the Macroscopic Universe, which it would not be if it had to travel through any medium.
M theory is the best theory out there at this moment in time and Icke explains it in this short clip:

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

The Truth is still The Truth even if expressed by a minority of One.
Mahatma Gandhi

[kblood]

To show some more about what this Franklin person has thought up:


Einstein had a theory of relativity E = mc^2

Energy = Mass Times the Speed of Light Squared

Franklin has a mathematical formula

E = Mass Times the Intensity of Light Squared,

not Speed of Light Squared

2 Squared

E = m c or 1/NSquared = NSquared Times 1/NSquared



And this is just a very small part of his formula. Problem is that it is all written in text, so it is kind of hard to read the actuall formulaes. As for his equation for the relativity equation, the change he has made is making E = Mass times the intensity of light squared.

I am no quantum physicist, so I cannot really test this theory much... I will try to see if I can replicate his formula for prime numbers though. I fear it will take a small program script though... and I guess prime numbers have always been easy to find if a program simply makes sure the number is a prime number first. That is how prime numbers have been calculated so far I believe.

[gold]

To show some more about what this Franklin person has thought up:



And this is just a very small part of his formula. Problem is that it is all written in text, so it is kind of hard to read the actuall formulaes. As for his equation for the relativity equation, the change he has made is making E = Mass times the intensity of light squared.

I am no quantum physicist, so I cannot really test this theory much... I will try to see if I can replicate his formula for prime numbers though. I fear it will take a small program script though... and I guess prime numbers have always been easy to find if a program simply makes sure the number is a prime number first. That is how prime numbers have been calculated so far I believe.

Why does it always take these complicated equations? surely there is another form of plain English which will make it much more durable and interesting for the masses to understand?
This is the Illuminati way? don't you think?

[kadamose]

Why does it always take these complicated equations? surely there is another form of plain English which will make it much more durable and interesting for the masses to understand?
This is the Illuminati way? don't you think?

Sacred Geometry.

[kblood]

Like I said there is nothing New to learn we have had all of the answers before because we have all been here many times before. Einstein Never claimed that the theory of Relativity was the final theory he said others would come along and take it apart. That is now being done, someone mentioned the Aether but there is not one, the speed of light is constant in the Macroscopic Universe, which it would not be if it had to travel through any medium.
M theory is the best theory out there at this moment in time and Icke explains it in this short clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVXzciGs2OA

The Truth is still The Truth even if expressed by a minority of One.
Mahatma Gandhi

No aether? Why would you think aether would make the light slow down? Aether would explain alot of things about the universe, and zero point energy devices. I once read about an experiment where it was attempted to store data in a cube, containing nothing but vacuum. Problem is they found that vacuum isnt as empty as it seems. Seems to me that the two bulding stones of everything in this plane of existance, might very well be aether and anti-matter. Both opposites, because aether can create matter, while anti-matter... doesnt. I havent looked much into what anti-matter or dark matter is, but I do think it is more than a myth.

There are types of gasses that can slow down the speed of light, but the thing about aether is that it is everywhere. It isnt just something that happens to be in some parts of space, so the reason why it is not going to affect the speed of light, is because it is constant. Aether is therefore also the reason that we can make devices that has more energy comming out of them, than the energy it takes to run them.

During world war 2 it seems the Nazi was able to find a way to use both anti-matter and aether in their devices, but they managed to keep some secrets untold.

I will try to have a look at what David Icke has to say about it, but I do not believe it disproves aether.

[gold]

Sacred Geometry.

I know it's sacred, but do you know the formula on how to put into an interesting language so the masses take note?
I think this is worth a thought and could even be just what we all need and the Illuminati don't want.

[kblood]

Why does it always take these complicated equations? surely there is another form of plain English which will make it much more durable and interesting for the masses to understand?
This is the Illuminati way? don't you think?

Sacred Geometry.

Im not sure there is an easy way to explain it. We have Phi, pythagoras and several other numbers and equations that helps us calculate and make simulations of how things might be.
One of the thing I would be very happy to have, is the equation for prime numbers. So far all I can tell from Franklins formula is that it might not be an equation he made, either that or he is using math that is beyond me (quite likely :o ) or maybe it is that he cannot use the proper mathematical expressions in pure text. Also he is saying every prime number, except 1 and 2... and maybe zero I guess. So that also makes it incomplete, even if the formula can make out all other prime numbers.

So far the most plain way of explaining the relativity theory is that matter might be compressed energy moving slower than the less solid energy, or according to this Franklins formula matter is energy with a higher density than non solid energy, and speed not having any influence.

Now... I would like to know what the difference is between intensity and density? Because from what I understand, aether must be empty space or vacuum, which then has a high density of energy in it, since that is what void is made of. New energy comming into being. What I do not understand about Franklins theory (or speculations?), is that he claims the difference between matter and energy is that matter is made of energy with less intensity... I think...

Oh well, I think I will try to get back to this one, or hopefully someone else will be able to enlighten me about this in some way.

Link to Franklins myspace page: http://www.myspace.com/franklinformula

[sunyatta60]

No aether? Why would you think aether would make the light slow down?


Apparently that is why Physicist rejected it.

[kblood]

No aether? Why would you think aether would make the light slow down?


Apparently that is why Physicist rejected it.

Does not make alot of sense, since the theory of aether is that aether is everywhere there is vacuum. Aether is when there is nothing else, so aether is everywhere. Aether cannot really be considered a medium if that is the case, can it?

So that aether ought to slow down the speed of light, because it had to "go through" aether, seems rather weak. It would actually disprove aether if it did slow down, as I see it. My guess is that aether is the perfect balance between energy and mass. A state of "in between".

[sunyatta60]

On Why Einstein Rejected the Aether
by Sid Deutsch

Some background information on the aether, as well as Albert Einstein’s rejection thereof, is given in the book by Peter Galison, Einstein’s Clocks, Poincaré’s Maps, Norton, 2003, pp. 14, 15:

Einstein began his relativity paper [“On the Electrodynamics of Moving Bodies,” Annalen der Physik, vol. 17, pp. 891-921, 1905] with the claim that there was an asymmetry in the then-current interpretation of electrodynamics, an asymmetry not present in the phenomena of nature. Almost all physicists around 1905 accepted the idea that light waves--like water waves or sound waves-- must be waves in something. In the case of light waves (or the oscillating electric and magnetic fields that constituted light), that something was the all-pervasive aether. Most late-nineteenth-century physicists considered the aether to be one of the great ideas of their era, and they hoped that once properly understood, intuited, and mathematized, the aether would lead science to a unified picture of phenomena from heat and light to magnetism and electricity. Yet it was the aether that gave rise to the asymmetry that Einstein rejected.

…But the aether itself could not be observed, so in Einstein’s view there was but a single observable phenomenon: coil and magnet approach, producing a current in the coil (as evidenced by the lighting of a lamp).

The above-mentioned asymmetry is illustrated in Fig. 1, but in a simpler configuration than the “current induced in a coil.” In Fig. 1, a voltage E is induced along a non-conducting rod. In (a), the rod moves to the right at a velocity v, cutting across the stationary magnetic field, B. The simple equation describing this is

E = Bv

http://www.siddeutsch.org/essay27.html

[synak]

Tesla's work has hasn't been lost seeing as how they are using it today. They just aren't using it for good.

It would be naive to believe much of his discoveries, research, data, etc. aren't under lock and key to this very day. Not lost, but hidden no doubt.