View Full Version : US Economy Collapse -- Super Hyperinflation Coming
protos
22-11-2009, 10:16 PM
http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=8427
A look at the dollar and where it is heading.
truthinlove
22-11-2009, 10:27 PM
I would think and hope, by now, those from the States who frequent these threads, and simply look at the facts, know it's going down the pooper.
neutrino
22-11-2009, 10:28 PM
I'm stocking up on everything because I'm telling you now my gut is telling me all this shit is going to hit the fan VERY SOON.
UK VAT goes back up in December and already we've had an inflation increase with another due on the way. I wanna get stocked up before the next inflation and VAT.
I've been telling people about all this about the US economy failing and Dollar collapsing and they're in complete denial. There's shit loads of them arguing against me saying everything will be fine and they simply do not listen. More fool them.
tenzingnorgay
22-11-2009, 10:51 PM
The problem in the US is that all politicians, all government financial types, all media types and all economists are telling Americans that the recession is over and that things will be improving shortly. They are all lying (except for the media who are too stupid to know what is going on). But the result is that American citizens hear a constant message that everything will be fine.
Almost every day there is some new negative economic statstistic, but the polticians and the media paint it as being good. For example, the number of unemployed keeps rising every month and the totals now are staggering, but the media will emphasize some fact that they claim is good. If the newly unemployed is 600,000 this month instead of 700,000 last month, the media will applaud and say this is wonderful news. Of course it is throroughly dreadful news, but the media will say anything to put a good spin on bad economic news.
So I'm not surprised that most Americans don't understand what is going on. They receive more propaganda from the media and their government than any other country in the world.
sithnemesis
22-11-2009, 11:02 PM
This could come in handy.... Here's a Disaster survival guide:
Consumer's Guide:
Preparing an Emergency Food Supply
Long Term Food Storage
Judy Harrison, Ph.D.
Associate Professor and Extension Food Safety Specialist,
Department of Food and Nutrition
and Elizabeth L. Andress, Ph.D.
Associate Professor and Extension Food Safety Specialist,
Department of Food and Nutrition
Document Use:
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Flash floods, tropical storms, blizzards...whatever the disaster, it pays to be prepared. Emergency items should be stored in a disaster supply kit.
Putting Together a Disaster Supply Kit
Items to include in a disaster supply kit:
Medical supplies and first aid manual*
Hygiene supplies
Portable radio and extra batteries**
Flashlights and lanterns with extra batteries**
Camping cookstove and fuel
Sterno cans
Matches in a waterproof container
Fire Extinguisher**
Blankets and extra clothing
Shovel and other useful tools
Money in a waterproof container
Infant and small children�s needs (if appropriate)*
Can opener, utensils, cookware
* Check expiration dates and rotate stock for long-term storage.
** Check periodically.
Nutrition Information for Emergency Food Storage
In a crisis, it will be most important that you maintain your strength. Eating nutritiously can help you do this. Here are some important nutrition tips.
Plan menus to include as much variety as possible.
Eat at least one well-balanced meal each day.
Drink enough liquid to enable your body to function properly (two quarts a day).
Take in enough calories to enable you to do any necessary work.
Include vitamin, mineral and protein supplements in your stockpile to assure adequate nutrition.
When deciding what foods to stock, use common sense. Consider what you could use and how you could prepare it. Storing foods that are difficult to prepare and are unlikely to be eaten could be a costly mistake.
Stocking a Long-term Emergency Food Supply
One approach to long term food storage is to store bulk staples along with a variety of canned and dried foods.
Bulk Staples
Wheat, corn, beans and salt can be purchased in bulk quantities fairly inexpensively and have nearly unlimited shelf life. If necessary, you could survive for years on small daily amounts of these staples. The following amounts are suggested per adult, per year:
Item Amount*
Wheat 240 pounds
Powdered Milk 75 pounds
Corn 240 pounds
Iodized Salt 5 pounds
Soybeans 120 pounds
Fats and Oil 20 pounds**
Vitamin C*** 180 grams
* Best to buy in nitrogen-packed cans
** 1 gallon equals 7 pounds
*** Rotate every two years
Stocking Foods for Infants
Special attention would need to be paid to stocking supplies of foods for infants. Powdered formula would be the least expensive form of infant formula to stock. Commercially canned liquid formula concentrate and ready-to-feed formula may also be stored. Amounts needed would vary, depending on the age of the infant. Infant formula has expiration dates on the packages and should not be used past the expiration date. Parents should also plan to have a variety of infant cereals and baby foods on hand. Amounts needed will vary depending on the age of the infant.
Other Foods to Supplement Your Bulk Staples
You can supplement bulk staples which offer a limited menu with commercially packed air-dried or freeze-dried foods, packaged mixes and other supermarket goods. Canned meats are a good selection. Rice and varieties of beans are nutritious and long-lasting. Ready-to-eat cereals, pasta mixes, rice mixes, dried fruits, etc. can also be included to add variety to your menus. Packaged convenience mixes that only need water and require short cooking times are good options because they are easy to prepare. The more of these products you include, the more expensive your stockpile will be.
The following is an easy approach to long-term food storage:
Buy a supply of the bulk staples listed previously.
Build up your everyday stock of canned goods until you have a two-week to one-month surplus. Rotate it periodically to maintain a supply of common foods that will not require special preparation, water or cooking.
From a sporting or camping equipment store, buy commercially packaged, freeze-dried or air-dried foods. Although costly, this is an excellent form of stored meat, so buy accordingly. (Canned meats are also options.) Another option is to purchase dry, packaged mixes from the supermarket.
Consider stocking some of the items listed as examples below. Amounts are suggested quantities for an adult for one year.
Flour, White Enriched 17 lbs
Corn Meal 42 lbs
Pasta (Spaghetti/Macaroni) 42 lbs
Beans (dry) 25 lbs
Beans, Lima (dry) 1 lb
Peas, Split (dry) 1 lb
Lentils (dry) 1 lb
Dry Soup Mix 5 lbs
Peanut Butter 4 lbs
Dry Yeast 1/2 lb
Sugar, White Granulated 40 lbs
Soda 1 lb
Baking Powder 1 lb
Vinegar 1/2 gal
Storage and Preparation of Food Supplies
All dry ingredients or supplies should be stored off the floor in clean, dry, dark places away from any source of moisture. Foods will maintain quality longer if extreme changes in temperature and exposure to light are avoided.
Grains
If you purchase bulk wheat, dark hard winter or dark hard spring wheat are good selections. Wheat should be #2 grade or better with a protein content from 12 - 15% and moisture content less than 10%. If wheat is not already in nitrogen-packed cans, it can be stored in sturdy 5 gallon food-grade plastic buckets or containers with tight fitting lids. If the wheat has not already been treated to prevent insects from hatching, wheat may be treated at the time of storage by placing one-fourth pound of dry ice per 5 gallon container in the bottom and then filling with wheat. Cover the wheat with the lid, but not tightly, for five or six hours before tightening the lid to be air tight. Other grains to consider storing include rye, rice, oats, triticale, barley and millet. Pasta products also satisfy the grain component of the diet. Milled rice will maintain its quality longer in storage than will brown rice. Many of the grains may require grinding before use. Some health food stores sell hand-cranked grain mills or can tell you where you can get one. Make sure you buy one that can grind corn. If you are caught without a mill, you can grind your grain by filling a large can with whole grain one inch deep, holding the can on the ground between your feet and pounding the grain with a hard metal object such as a pipe.
Non-fat Dry Milk/Dairy Products
Store dry milk in a tightly covered air-tight container. Dry milk may be stored at 70oF for 12 - 24 months. If purchased in nitrogen packed cans, storage time for best quality will be 24 months. Other dairy products for long term storage may include canned evaporated milk, pasteurized cheese spreads and powdered cheese.
Other Foods or Ingredients
Iodized salt should be selected and stored in its original package. Dried beans, peas, lentils, etc. provide an inexpensive alternative to meat and are easy to store in glass or plastic containers tightly covered. Those purchased from the grocery shelf are normally the highest quality.
Open food boxes or cans carefully so that you can close them tightly after each use. Wrap cookies and crackers in plastic bags, and keep them in air-tight storage containers. Empty opened packages of sugar, dried fruits and nuts into screw-top jars or airtight food storage containers to protect them from pests. Inspect all food containers for signs of spoilage before use. Commercially canned foods are safe to eat after long periods of storage unless they are bulging, leaking or badly rusted. Quality, however, will diminish with long term storage. Changes in flavor, color and texture may be observed and nutritional value will decrease. For best quality, use within one year. If stored longer than one year, rotate canned goods at least every two to four years.
Vitamin and Mineral Supplements
To help compensate for possible deficiencies in the diet in emergency situations, families may wish to store 365 multi-vitamin/mineral tablets per person. Careful attention should be paid to expiration dates on packages.
Shelf Life of Foods for Storage (Unopened)
Here are some general guidelines for rotating common emergency foods to ensure the best quality of the products.
Use within six months:
Powdered milk (boxed)
Dried fruit (in metal container)
Dry, crisp crackers (in metal container)
Potatoes
Use within one year:
Canned condensed meat and vegetable soups
Canned fruits, fruit juices and vegetables
Ready-to-eat cereals and uncooked instant cereals (in metal containers)
Peanut butter
Jelly
Hard candy, chocolate bars and canned nuts
May be stored indefinitely* (in proper containers and conditions):
Wheat
Vegetable oils
Corn
Baking powder
Soybeans
Instant coffee, tea
Cocoa
Salt
Noncarbonated soft drinks
White rice
Bouillon products
Dry pasta
Vitamin C
Powdered milk (in nitrogen-packed cans)
*Two to three years
If the Electricity Goes Off...
FIRST, use perishable food and foods from the refrigerator. THEN use the foods from the freezer. To minimize the number of times you open the freezer door, post a list of freezer contents on it. In a well-filled, well-insulated freezer, foods will usually still have ice crystals in their centers. Consume the foods only if they have ice crystals remaining or if the temperature of the freezer has remained at 40 degrees F or below. Covering the freezer with blankets will help to hold in cold. Be sure to pin blankets back so that the air vent is not covered. FINALLY, begin to use non-perishable foods and staples.
tenzingnorgay
22-11-2009, 11:07 PM
Many Americans are going to be needing that information sooner than they think
neutrino
22-11-2009, 11:21 PM
If I buy 'value range' tinned food I can buy (as one example) 71 tins of peas with just £10. :cool:
I'm already planning on buying this week some candle holders, a wind up torch, a camping stove, some new thicker sleeping bags and a pump up bed that pumps up by foot.
diamond dogs
22-11-2009, 11:22 PM
Unfortunately things are happening as predicted for some time now by the orchestrated financial banking scams hence the surge of the gold price continues..currently £702 $1157 New highs on a daily basis.
We are in for rough times I think.....
http://www.thebulliondesk.com/freecharts/freeprice.aspx?id=67946828-b7f4-4163-9c04-2b3b91a42589
mauviene
22-11-2009, 11:30 PM
Actually who knows
Actually who knows
So far this guy:
http://hypertiger.blogspot.com/
rollotomaz1
23-11-2009, 01:43 AM
A calor bottle system and cooker, 4 bottles will last us 2 years of cooking, this can be brought inside if needed.
Ready made 1 inch thick plywood blanks for all your windows and doors, these are almost impossible to get through by hand, chainsaws and plenty of petrol make great weapons for people trying to put their hands inside your property.
Some way of blocking off your chimney
We live right next to very large wooded areas so there will always be plenty of fuel from timber.
Most preserves and pickles will last quite a long time and the vinegar can be used again.
Industrial alcohol and parrafin for the primus stove and is relatively cheap per gallon, candles made from beeswax.
Bleach for steralisation purpouses, and medical supplies the strongest pain killers you can get, we have an extensive medical pack including mersilk and cat gut and spencer wells sewing and many more useful medical tools.
Books on wild plants, Culpeppers complete herbal, it has all the government and vitues included, this is a must.
Sewing machines manual for clothing repairs and a good bug out survival kit just in case.
And most important also a form of defence, A big gun and a good supply of ammo, crossbows are great for silent defence, high power catapults will seriously upset someones day, ball bearings 1/2" dia will put your lights out for good with a good aimed shot.
Nitric acid is also makes a good weapon, you can still buy this legally today.
Its a bit like Swiss family Robinson, or Big Verne from Viz :D
Super, hyperinflation.
Are you referring to requiring a wheel barrow of dollars just to purchase a loaf of bread? Who else did that and when?
Oh yes, some European people 60+ years ago. And what happened next?
Damn the fools (TPTB) who repeat history!
iam8love
23-11-2009, 02:25 AM
The problem in the US is that all politicians, all government financial types, all media types and all economists are telling Americans that the recession is over and that things will be improving shortly. They are all lying (except for the media who are too stupid to know what is going on). But the result is that American citizens hear a constant message that everything will be fine.
Almost every day there is some new negative economic statstistic, but the polticians and the media paint it as being good. For example, the number of unemployed keeps rising every month and the totals now are staggering, but the media will emphasize some fact that they claim is good. If the newly unemployed is 600,000 this month instead of 700,000 last month, the media will applaud and say this is wonderful news. Of course it is throroughly dreadful news, but the media will say anything to put a good spin on bad economic news.
So I'm not surprised that most Americans don't understand what is going on. They receive more propaganda from the media and their government than any other country in the world.
Those that are awake see right tru the bull. Unfortunately I suspect the majority has no idea what's coming despite the warnings. I rarely watch the tube, but today saw the "Hopenhagen" propaganda. 'Cope' with pollution -vs-'Hope' for the future. Too many sheeple will be cheering Obummer on to sign the treaty.
mauviene
23-11-2009, 03:46 AM
So far this guy:
http://hypertiger.blogspot.com/
Right....it is inevitable..but who knows when it will happen..it could be a few more years..
tenzingnorgay
23-11-2009, 05:27 AM
So far this guy:
http://hypertiger.blogspot.com/
Unfortunately he suffers from verbal diarrhea. He wanders around aimlessly listening to his own voice then eventually gets to his point. You could rewrite his typical blog entry and remove 90% of the words and not lose anything.
It's likely to happen in early 2010. But who really knows. It IS happening, though.