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stompk
21-11-2009, 11:42 PM
A recent article sent me on a research mission.


Margaret Chan, director general of the World Health Organization, urged public health experts not to take their eyes off H5N1 bird flu even as H1N1 swine flu was sweeping the globe

H1N1 + H5N1 = Worst-case scenario (http://www.ottawacitizen.com/business/H1N1+H5N1+Worst+case+scenario/2250247/story.html)

Put that together with this news;


Drug stocks were mixed overall early Friday, but shares of Inovio Biomedical Corp. (INO) soared on positive clinical data for its new DNA-based flu vaccine.

The NYSE Arca Pharmaceutical Index was up slightly at 302.70 while the NYSE Arca Biotechnology Index was down 2.85 at 867.

Shares of Inovio leaped 25% to $1.50.

Inovio reported that animal studies showed its new DNA-based vaccine was effective in protecting against several strains of influenza, including the strains H1N1 and H5N1, also known respectively as swine and avian flu.

US Drug Stocks Mixed; Inovio Up On Vaccine Study Results - WSJ.com (http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20091120-709034.html)

I have formulated a theory about this. H5N1 is extremely deadly, however it seems to not have been able to spread very easily.

H1N1 does spread easily, but is not nearly as deadly.

H5N1 attacks deep in the lungs


Between December 2005 and February 2006, eight hospitalized patients (median age 10, 5–15 years) with avian-flu were evaluated in this study. All patients were evaluated with chest X-ray and four of them with CT scan. Post mortem pathological characterization were also available for three of the patients.
Results

A rapidly progressive pneumonia with high mortality rate was observed especially for cases with late admission. The major radiologic abnormalities were extensive pneumonic infiltration with segmental and multifocal distribution, mostly located in lower zones of the lung.

Elsevier: Article Locator (http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0720048X06004311)

Now, a look at the most current news.


Today the Norwegian Institute of Public Health announced that scientists had identified a mutated form of the A/H1N1swine flu virus in two patients who died of the flu and a third who was critically ill with it.
..
the concern is that the changed virus might now be more likely to penetrate deeper into the lungs, causing pneumonia.

Swine flu mutation found in Norway (http://www.examiner.com/x-9303-Miami-Health-Care-Examiner~y2009m11d20-Swine-flu-mutation-found-in-Norway)

I'm starting to think that this was a tersary attack, meaning it had three parts.

Part one, infect the population with H5N1, which doesn't spread easily, but stays in the body laying dormant for a long time, even years.
Part two infect the population with H1N1 which spread like wildfire, and again, stays in the body for a long time.

The third part is the vaccination. This new DNA based vaccination allows the two diseases to combine, creating a killer that spreads through the air.

Now all they need is a "universal vaccine"


Vaccine. 2006 Jun 12;24(24):5158-68. Epub 2006 May 2.

The recent emergence of multiple avian influenza A subtypes that cause human disease (i.e., H5N1, H9N2 and H7N7), coupled with the fear that one of these strains might precipitate a new pandemic, underscores the need to develop new technological approaches to immunization which elicit protective immune responses against multiple subtypes of influenza A. In response to this demand, several matrix 2 protein ectodomain segments (M2eA) corresponding to the H1N1, H5N1 and H9N2 influenza strains were formulated using a novel liposome-based vaccine technology and evaluated as potential immunogens for developing a "universal" influenza vaccine.

Protection against H1, H5, H6 and H9 influenza A i... [Vaccine. 2006] - PubMed result (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16713037)

loopy2222
21-11-2009, 11:44 PM
I'm sure I read recently somewhere on this forum that this was being planned!! So predictable eh? :(

infinite tea
22-11-2009, 12:00 AM
Google and look on youtube for Joseph Mosche - apparently he claimed that Baxter Healthcare were putting RNA into their vaccine that would help speed up the mutation process to give the same effect you describe.

int50
22-11-2009, 12:01 AM
Lame. I hope you're wrong, but it makes sense! These people are sick and it would explain why all those biologists died over the last 5 odd years.

stompk
22-11-2009, 12:12 AM
What's even crazier is, remember the Chemtrail document I posted about a couple of days ago?
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=91803

I've had some time to do some research on the chemicals studied in this course.

Nearly all, if not all, are found in biological/chemical warfare agents!

frase
22-11-2009, 12:23 AM
Why would TPTB try to kill off their Profit centre exactly?!!
Can someone answer me this?

stompk
22-11-2009, 12:35 AM
Why would TPTB try to kill off their Profit centre exactly?!!
Can someone answer me this?

Do you really thing they need the money?

They want our land, and a few slaves to keep them satisfied.

kblood
22-11-2009, 01:10 AM
Why would TPTB try to kill off their Profit centre exactly?!!
Can someone answer me this?

The vaccine is not free for everyone, and there are quite a few people that is costing more money than they are making.

Medicine is a profitable business and even more so with diseases people would have to worry about. So far I havent seen anything that would make me take anything other than vitamins. Preferably vitamins from fruit or some other natural source instead of the fabricated ones.

I did have alot of trust in the health care system, and to some degree I still have, as long as it comes to physical injury. But for curing diseases, mental disorders and whatever is not a direct physical injury, then it is something they wont use the best medication against. Because the best medication against it cant be licensed.

If it could they would have licensed oxygen. Water I guess they already have to some degree, since we are dependent on it being cleaned for us so we can drink it again. Still there are ways to clean it for ourselves, and most the stuff they do have workarounds. Just 200 years ago, who had diabetes? When was the first case? Or had they already begun processing white sugar back then?

And now they say it is genetic. But only because the parent had too much white sugar. Would just be bad business for the drug mafia to tell us that. Im not sure how many diseases that accounts for, but they have marked quite a few as genetic. If so then they ought to have some kind of historic record of when that started. Some just started with us changing dietary habits.

But even with all these ways of shortening our lies, they come up with these diseases. Well I do not fear it, but it saddens me how hard it is to make some in my family see it. Even though they are deep into it and prescribed more drugs each year. They do not see anything strange in the drugs only making it better short term.

I wonder if I will die before I am 60 if I say no to those drugs? I am somewhat certain that I will put it to the test, but hard to be sure about something more than 30 years in the future.

paolo
22-11-2009, 01:23 AM
= Ukraine version, I should imagine

john connor
22-11-2009, 01:25 AM
A recent article sent me on a research mission.


H1N1 + H5N1 = Worst-case scenario (http://www.ottawacitizen.com/business/H1N1+H5N1+Worst+case+scenario/2250247/story.html)

Put that together with this news;


US Drug Stocks Mixed; Inovio Up On Vaccine Study Results - WSJ.com (http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20091120-709034.html)

I have formulated a theory about this. H5N1 is extremely deadly, however it seems to not have been able to spread very easily.

H1N1 does spread easily, but is not nearly as deadly.

H5N1 attacks deep in the lungs


Elsevier: Article Locator (http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0720048X06004311)

Now, a look at the most current news.


Swine flu mutation found in Norway (http://www.examiner.com/x-9303-Miami-Health-Care-Examiner~y2009m11d20-Swine-flu-mutation-found-in-Norway)

I'm starting to think that this was a tersary attack, meaning it had three parts.

Part one, infect the population with H5N1, which doesn't spread easily, but stays in the body laying dormant for a long time, even years.
Part two infect the population with H1N1 which spread like wildfire, and again, stays in the body for a long time.

The third part is the vaccination. This new DNA based vaccination allows the two diseases to combine, creating a killer that spreads through the air.

Now all they need is a "universal vaccine"


Protection against H1, H5, H6 and H9 influenza A i... [Vaccine. 2006] - PubMed result (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16713037)


IMO your spot on ..or very very close unfortunantly...I remembered reading this a few years back and it stuck for 'some' reason...link to story of Brit Aristocrat, who's body was exhumed from lead sealed coffin - died of 1918 Spanish flu

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1407993/Scientists-to-exhume-victims-body-for-medical-study-on-deadly-disease.html

oh and maybe his "blue blood" was a grand symbolic irony to bring us into line
- then again I believe in chemtrails so I'm mad as a hatter....and see 11.11 so No f***** hope for me

batou
22-11-2009, 01:25 AM
H6n2??

measle_weasel
22-11-2009, 01:30 AM
Vitamin D and colloidal silver. Stock up.

Also, get into good cardiovascular health, and I think folks will have a good chance against the combo flu / combo flus.

gripit
22-11-2009, 01:31 AM
:eek:

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/8238/vacmoshed.jpg (http://img687.imageshack.us/i/vacmoshed.jpg/) http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/vacmoshed.jpg/1/w648.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img687/vacmoshed.jpg/1/)

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/1691/vacdeadd.jpg (http://img689.imageshack.us/i/vacdeadd.jpg/) http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/vacdeadd.jpg/1/w519.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img689/vacdeadd.jpg/1/)

john connor
22-11-2009, 01:31 AM
Sorry the above link relates to a woman who was exhumed...there is one about the Aristo too tho' I firmly remember reading it..will try and find it

john connor
22-11-2009, 01:35 AM
here is the link

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/health/british-aristocrats-corpse-may-hold-swine-flu-key_100224006.html

stompk
22-11-2009, 01:45 AM
here is the link

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/health/british-aristocrats-corpse-may-hold-swine-flu-key_100224006.html

Thanks for the link.

What's coming is going to make the plague look like a picnic.

A government produced mist.

The Mist Trailer (FINAL) - YouTube

john connor
22-11-2009, 02:21 AM
Thanks for the link.

What's coming is going to make the plague look like a picnic.

A government produced mist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImOP6TS2SyI

No probs....did a bit of digging on Sir Mark Sykes

"Sykes was in Paris in connection with peace negotiations in 1919. At the conference, a junior diplomat present, Harold Nicolson, described Sykes' effect: "It was due to his endless push and perservance, to his enthusiasm and faith, that Arab nationalism and Zionism became two of the most successful of our war causes."

He died in his room at the Hotel Lotti near the Tuileries Garden on 16 February 1919, aged 39, a victim of the Spanish flu pandemic. His remains were transported back to his family home at Sledmere House (in the East Riding of Yorkshire) for burial. Although he had been a Roman Catholic, he was buried in the churchyard of the local Anglican St. Mary's church in Sledmere. Nahum Sokolow, a Russian Zionist colleague of Chaim Weizmann in Paris at this time, wrote that he "... fell as a hero at our side."

He was succeeded by his son, Sir Richard Sykes, 7th Baronet (1905–1978). Another son, Christopher Sykes (1907–1986), was a distinguished author and official biographer of Evelyn Waugh. Sir Mark's great-grandchildren include the New York-based fashion writer and novelist Plum Sykes and her twin sister, Lucy Sykes (Mrs. Euan Rellie), and their brother Thomas (Tom) Sykes.

Sledmere House is still in the possession of the family, with Sir Mark's eldest grandson Sir Tatton Sykes, 8th Baronet, being the current occupant. A brother is the photographer and writer Christopher Sykes; he or his son will eventually inherit the baronetcy.

Sykes was, among others like D. G. Hogarth and Henry McMahon, one of the inspirations for the character of Mr. Dryden (played by Claude Rains) in the film Lawrence of Arabia (1962).
[edit] Exhumation for biological research

In 2007, 88 years after Sir Mark Sykes died, all the living descendants gave their permission to exhume his body for scientific investigation headed by virologist John Oxford. His remains were exhumed in mid-September 2008[4]. His remains were of interest because he had been buried in a lead-lined coffin, and this was thought likely to have preserved Spanish Flu viral particles intact. Any samples taken are to be used for research in the quest to develop defences against future influenza pandemics. The Spanish Flu virus itself became a human infection by a mutation of an avian virus nowadays called H1N1. There are only five other extant samples of the Spanish Flu virus. Professor Oxford's team was expecting to find a well preserved cadaver.[5] However, the coffin was found to be split because of the weight of soil over it, and the cadaver was found to be badly decomposed. Nonetheless, samples of lung and brain tissue were taken through the split in the coffin, with the coffin remaining in situ in the grave during this process.[6] Soon afterwards, the open grave was sealed again by refilling it with earth.


hmmm If I was a CT .....well you could say TPTB really are playing out Revelations...6 seals.... "5 other" and Sir Mark - the sixth seal....

Ian2day
22-11-2009, 05:03 AM
The unseasonal warm weather, is probably going to prevent any mass breakout. I think it is the constant going between cold and warm that causes us all to thaw out and bung up again. That would create the conditions needed for a mass outbreak to take place. Also the catch it and bin it ads may of educated the masses to not smear their snot in places it shouldnt go.

trix
22-11-2009, 06:25 AM
Makes a lot of sense. Terrifying, to be honest.

stompk
22-11-2009, 12:39 PM
H6n2??

There is such a thing, but I don't think it works like that.
But before I posted this thread, I did look into it.

72057594000000000vps
22-11-2009, 01:06 PM
H6n2??

:D

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In Love and Peace

int50
22-11-2009, 02:19 PM
:eek:

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/8238/vacmoshed.jpg (http://img687.imageshack.us/i/vacmoshed.jpg/) http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/vacmoshed.jpg/1/w648.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img687/vacmoshed.jpg/1/)

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/1691/vacdeadd.jpg (http://img689.imageshack.us/i/vacdeadd.jpg/) http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/vacdeadd.jpg/1/w519.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img689/vacdeadd.jpg/1/)


Oh shit!!! The shit is going down. It's for real and it's going to happen...FUCK!

tb303
22-11-2009, 03:27 PM
And I'm sure that Survivors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivors_(2008_TV_series)) which the BBC broadcasted around this time last year and depicts the activities of a group of people who survived a virulent strain of mutant or genetically engineered influenza which wiped out most of the human race is just a coincidence :rolleyes:

It might be interesting to find out some more information on Sue Hogg, an executive producer at the BBC, had the idea of remaking Survivors following the recent increase in concerns about future pandemics and diseases such as SARS.

princessofwands
22-11-2009, 03:28 PM
Don't fear, just be informed and ready.

This article and video of a radio-show conversation explains how some kind of biological toxin was trucked all over the US at the beginning of this year. Connected to the emerging bird-flu or not, you decide.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_influenza03.htm

jesuitsdidit
22-11-2009, 03:54 PM
Lame. I hope you're wrong, but it makes sense! These people are sick and it would explain why all those biologists died over the last 5 odd years.

yep
thats why i say dont take the vaccine or tamiflu
its a key part of the plan imo..

jesuitsdidit
22-11-2009, 03:56 PM
Why would TPTB try to kill off their Profit centre exactly?!!
Can someone answer me this?

by profit centre do u mean the sheeple?
if so, u r way behind man..

jesuitsdidit
22-11-2009, 04:01 PM
maybe ukraine was just an experiment
to see how quickly it wd spread

now they can decide if it cd b used 4 the BIG ONE??..

gripit
22-11-2009, 04:33 PM
maybe ukraine was just an experiment
to see how quickly it wd spread

now they can decide if it cd b used 4 the BIG ONE??..

Could be.

With
Codex Alimentarius (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=92274) going into place Dec 31st, it won't take long before all of our supplements/vitamins are removed from the shelves. Things like garlic and herbs will be classed as a drug. Our fruits and veggies will have shockingly low vitamin content, etc etc. Seriously, it wouldn't take much of a virus to wipe out a great deal of people.

sade
22-11-2009, 04:38 PM
Ukraine has a mutated virus, but it's not dangerous. (viruses mutate ALL the time!)
The government of Ukraine are just using this as a political plot.

jesuitsdidit
22-11-2009, 04:47 PM
latest

http://ukraineplague.blogspot.com/
...

MSM Story - Ukraine Swine Flu Deaths indicate H1N1 Vaccine and Biological Weapon Link 11/22/09 7:00am


According to a news article in Russia this week, autopsies on H1N1 victims doctors have confirmed pneumonia was not the cause of death. Cardiopulmonary insufficiency and cardiogenic shock are to blame and antibiotics should not be used.

The virus is said to be a mixture of Para influenza and influenza A/H1N1. It penetrates the mucus membranes, and then enters directly into the lungs causing bleeding.

Ukraine Deaths are not Pneumonia

The Head of the Chernivtsi regional forensic bureau, Professor Victor Bachinsky PhD, makes a strong statement, “All the victims of the virus in Bukovina (22 persons aged 20 to 40 years) died not from bilateral (double) pneumonia, as previously thought, but as a result of viral distress syndrome, i.e. the total destruction of the lungs. In the Chernivtsi region 18 people have died. We studied all the history and evidence from this disease, preclinical, clinical, resuscitation. When we perform an autopsy organs and tissues have histological studies (cell analysis) and we concluded that it was not pneumonia, and has no relation to pneumonia whatsoever.”
Profession Victor Bachinsky, PhD is head of the regional forensic bureau, a group of 5 specialists, morphologists and doctors in Bukovina. This group of professors has established the diagnosis based on autopsies and lab tests.

Professor Bachinsky also stated the severity of the virus depends on a person’s immune system. Those with strong immune systems will overcome it easily, some not even knowing they are ill.

Antibiotics are not an Option

“Antibiotics definitely should not be taken.” Bachinsky further stated, “Antibiotics are the reason we have such a high mortality and infection rate in this country, because people go to the pharmacy, describe their symptoms to the pharmacist and ask for drugs. They buy antibiotics, take them, this lowers their immune system and as a result they become sick. If prescriptions were required to buy these medications, like in other countries, this would not have happened. It is the ability to buy antibiotics over the counter without a prescription which has done so much harm to the State.”

The toxic strain of this virus literally destroys the lungs and is responsible for deaths in Bukovina and throughout the Ukraine. Once the virus enters the lungs, hemorrhaging begins immediately. There is a cardio-pulmonary insufficiency and cardiogenic shock. People die of cardiogenic shock. Baskinsky explains further, “And there is no pneumonia. Pneumonia – an inflammation, which is treated with antibiotics. Antibiotics cannot help at any stage. There should be absolutely different treatment.”

Tami flu is recommended for treatment on the second or third day of the disease, but it can not be used as a preventative medication.

Prevention is the best Medicine for the Swine Flu

Prevention should be the strengthening of the human immune system. Professor Bachinsky recommends, “Garlic, onions, wild rose, viburnum (guelder rose), raspberries, citrus fruit, honey, and other fruits and vegetables – whatever you want. Those with a strong immune system will survive. Those with weaker immune systems will succumb to the disease.”

H1N1 Swine Flu Bio-Weapon Link

Professor Victor Bachinsky, PhD., is a coroner in the Chernivtsi region of Ukraine. He provides evidence which indicates that Para influenza mixed with the H1N1 virus, not pneumonic plague, has caused so much illness in Ukraine. Yet more strains of influenza which have combined, a strong indication that we are dealing with a laboratory developed bio-weapon.

This is not the only claim indicating a link to the H1N1 Vaccine to being a biological weapon. According to an article from the Netherlands, Joseph Moshe, a former microbiologist with the Israeli intelligence agency Mossad, was arrested in Los Angeles back in August 2009 after making threats against the White House.

After his arrest there were several reports where Moshe called into a radio show warning of the biological weapon being created in the Ukraine. These reports accuse the Ukrainian company Baxter International of creating this bio-weapon, that would be transmitted via a flu vaccine.

Related Stories:

* Examiner.com: Europeans Question if Swine Flu is Pandemic or Scandal
* Prison Planet TV: Has Baxter International Released a Biological Weapon?
* Bloomberg.com: Baxter Sent Bird Flu Virus to European Labs by Error
* Aegis-Reuters: Baxter to work on AIDS settlement in Japan
* The Huffington Post: Joseph Moshe, Man Suspected of Making Threats agains White House, Leads Threats Against White House, Leads Police on Chase in LA
* Examiner.com: Is Baxter International’s Swine Flu Vaccine a Godsend, a Scam or Something Worse?
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rollotomaz1
22-11-2009, 04:50 PM
We are still seeing very low infection to death ratios, there are way more abortions taking place than are dieing of the black death, flu or whatever they think they might of released.

If what we are seeing is a pandemic, please wake me up in a million year so I can wake up and see all the dead and dieing, because we will always have viruses and untimely deaths no matter what, viruses along with the human immune system have evolved alongside each other,

Its only when we see man messing around with nature that anything goes wrong, my next guess is what I think is taking place, that's the release of not a couple of different viruses, but many more starins to countries which have certain kinds of immune responces, what come naturally to all different geneomes throughout the planet.

I think we will see many more off-shoots on a theme which will effect one country but not another the same twice, these wilmutate between each other if so the world movement should be stopped right now tocontain any mutations until no more cases are visible, it wouldn't take long only a matter of weeks, and let the big Pharma and the WHO they control foot the bill for releasing the viruses in the first place.

jesuitsdidit
22-11-2009, 04:57 PM
Could be.

With
Codex Alimentarius (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=92274) going into place Dec 31st, it won't take long before all of our supplements/vitamins are removed from the shelves. Things like garlic and herbs will be classed as a drug. Our fruits and veggies will have shockingly low vitamin content, etc etc. Seriously, it wouldn't take much of a virus to wipe out a great deal of people.

yep
stock up on evryting thatll b outlawed under Codex..

rollotomaz1
22-11-2009, 06:24 PM
yep
stock up on evryting thatll b outlawed under Codex..

There are plenty of wild flowers and plants that hold lots of vitamins and minerals, what of them are they also to become controlled drugs like hemp maybe they knew these codex laws were coming, that is why they are thinking of reclassification of grass/weed.

Get your copy of culpeppers complete herbal before that becomes a stared item also, its going to be rather hard to stop all the naturals, they cannot watch everybody all the time, electronic stazi comes to mind.

stompk
22-11-2009, 06:38 PM
I just came across this video, and I think it fits with this thread.

Notice, they are saying prepare for H5N1, Hurricane (weather modx from Chemtrails), and biological warfare/release

A Sign of Things to Come? You Decide! - YouTube

int50
22-11-2009, 06:38 PM
Ukraine has a mutated virus, but it's not dangerous. (viruses mutate ALL the time!)
The government of Ukraine are just using this as a political plot.

What about this Israeli MicroBiologist that predicted Baxter would release this virus in the form of a vaccine?!? And it happened 2 months after his predictions? This is just a mutation? Are you joking?

This was a beta test.

It's become clear to me that this is what's going to happen. Either lots of small versions of this virus will be released causing pockets of life loss, or, there will be a huge outlet that will kill millions. The latter is less probable, as it causes panic and unpredictability. They'll have to do it in a controlled manner, with the MSM reassuring everyone everything is ok, when in actuality, there'll be millions dying...

Maybe not. Who knows.

trix
22-11-2009, 06:51 PM
yep
stock up on evryting thatll b outlawed under Codex..

Is it really going into effect December 31st???

jesuitsdidit
22-11-2009, 07:49 PM
latest

http://ukraineplague.blogspot.com/

...Final Information and Part 3 from Ukraine Doctor about Situation - Says Pneumonic Plague 11/22/09 11:05am ...
* But there is something that is.

* So this is my last letter.

And it will be drawn as to the medical staff (primarily to pediatricians, therapists, family physicians) and patients.

* Because the first did not understand what is happening and what to do, and the latter simply dying, despite all the efforts of relatives.
* If we all understand what is happening, we can prevent complications, from which now people are dying.
* Just sorry that at first, to practical recommendations, I'll pathogenesis of the disease. Это важно для медиков. This is important for health professionals.

* So true.

* Now, very soon all over Ukraine, will attend as a bacterial or viral infection, has tropism of the virus protein and bacteria to the epithelium of the lungs, which causes an autoimmune reaction, manifested toxic pulmonary edema. * If at this moment does not provide quality medical care, the process is logically (approximately a 1,5-2 hours) into the second phase - the diffusion of the erythrocyte, which is comparable with that "mikroplotiny" alveoli collapse, and instead to provide a gas perfusion, ie, * "A prime", "flooded" with blood. * Doctors describe this as a morphological stage of the "red hepatization.

* It was at this moment the patient feels a severe shortage of air, appears hemoptysis, shortness of breath, rapid breathing, drop in blood pressure, etc. * From that moment he began to provide quality medical care.
* But at this moment he is more likely to die than survive.

* Now this syndrome is called "respiratory distress syndrome of adults (RDSV)", often used the term «SARS», that a significant practical irrelevant.

* However, this syndrome may be the same "success" and to develop in children.

* Does not matter, it is RDSV / SARS - coronavirus, the virus A/H1N1/2009, any bacteria still something. * This "syndrome", ie * etiology of the disease is not known or polietiologichna, but at some point process is almost identical.

* AND INITIAL moment - the development of toxic-allergic pulmonary edema!

Dear Colleagues, primary care, pediatricians, internists, family doctors ...

* Depends only on us, whether our patients will survive, because it depends on us that if we properly divide the viral infection from bacterial, able to organize a AMBULATORONOE treatment of our patients to the relevant protocols, and we know that now some of our patient may DEVELOP RDSV / SARS - Syndrome: Do not switch off their mobile phones. * Let your patients will be with you round the clock contact.

* RDSV / SARS develops quickly, but it is not lethal if it is given to qualified medical assistance during the development of pulmonary edema, especially in outpatient STAGE. Look over the phone, as your patient is breathing, and you will understand everything.
* Be prepared that the number of such patients will increase, because we are not ready for this epidemic.

* Distinguished doctors of the emergency medical care, colleagues, I have to ask you - just heard that a patient suspected of "pulmonary edema", throw everything. * The patient had already "bought himself a ticket to the next world." * Please keep in his suitcase, as a minimum, hormones and antibiotics. * Urgent organize hospital patients, even if only suspected, "pulmonary edema" advance warning about this hospital doctors.
* Then we will not have these "atypical" pneumonia with fatal!

* And only then sooner or later will establish that caused RDSV / SARS-syndrome - a coronavirus, the virus A/H1N1/2009 and what sort of suspicious bacteria and determine the protocol management and treatment of such patients.


* Dear Patients

* In this situation, locate a doctor to whom you could entrust the health of their loved ones. * I realize that this is practically impossible in rural areas - but for you, the Ministry of Health should organize a "hot" line, where you would be able to call. * Do not forget that our country continues to operate normally: the rescue of drowning - a handwork of drowning!

* If you found no one or nobody / nowhere to call, make sure you have at home:

1. * Prednisolone at 1.0 amp. * 5 ampoules or dexamethasone at 1.0 5 ampoules per ampoule;

2. * One of the broad-spectrum antibiotics in capsules - Lincomycin 30% 1,0 - 2,0, gentamicin 4% - 2,0, dalatsin or clindamycin for 2,0 or 4,0. * You can have other broad spectrum antibiotics. * What it tells me that penicillins and cephalosporins are not effective. * About streptomycin and tetracycline do not say - when there is pulmonary edema heavily rely on their help.

3. * Alcohol, cotton, about 10 syringes of 5,0 and 10,0 ml.

* Especially do not write dosages of these drugs!
* Let your trusted, the attending physicians of the ambulance assistance (prior to its arrival) - decided that an urgent need to introduce to her arrival, and in what doses.

* If you find a trusted doctor or district pediatricians and therapists have recognized the seriousness of the situation - immediately call them in all cases of disease states and clearly describe their symptoms.
* Do not engage in self!

* Measure the temperature of the body 2 times a day, even if you "do not feel it.

* The use of hormonal drugs should allow / authorize only the doctor if the doctor hears the characteristic "sound character" - put the only phone to the patient, who is developing or developed "pulmonary edema» / SARS.

* More must be urgent medical care to inform the manager of SMP - "I have gurgling in his chest."

* Suppose that after the emergency ambulance service does not try to come to you within 15 minutes!

* But the use of hormonal drugs we are saving the patient's life without taking 1 stage (pulmonary edema) in stage 2 (erythrocytic infiltration of the lungs), a one-sided or total pneumonia! * We are with you with further handle, colleagues? ...

this would indicate to me that what theyve had in Ukraine is SARS..

stompk
22-11-2009, 11:47 PM
Currently happening in Iowa.


"In the autopsy, what we're seeing is very heavy, wet hemorrhagic lungs, lungs with a lot of blood in them," said Dr. Gregory Schmunk.

He said the official count of seven H1N1 deaths is inaccurate, but patient rights laws prohibit him from giving specific numbers.

http://www.kcci.com/news/21670309/detail.html

Uh-oh.

Just in case your wondering,


DES MOINES, Iowa -- Flu clinics in Polk County will begin on Oct. 2. There will be 31 clinics around the county that will offer the shots through Nov. 17.

http://www.kcci.com/health/9902506/detail.html

stompk
27-11-2009, 03:18 PM
Seems the WHO is confirming what I have feared.

They are blaming it on chickens, but we know the truth.


Experts from the World Health Organization are concerned over the new cases of Avian Influenza or the H5N1 in poultries in Egypt, Indonesia, Thailand and Vietnam, saying that the virus may mutate into a new strain if it comes into contact with another influenza virus.

“The presence of H5N1 in poultry poses a health risk in two ways. First, it places those in direct contact with birds — usually rural folk and farm workers — at risk of catching the often fatal disease. Second, the virus could undergo a process of ‘reassortment’ with another influenza virus and produce a completely new strain,” WHO said in a statement.

http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/231485/who-concerned-with-new-avian-flu-cases

loopy2222
27-11-2009, 03:20 PM
Seems the WHO is confirming what I have feared.

They are blaming it on chickens, but we know the truth.


http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/231485/who-concerned-with-new-avian-flu-cases

So they will be culling chickens just like they culled the pigs then.... NOT! :rolleyes:

stompk
27-11-2009, 03:23 PM
So they will be culling chickens just like they culled the pigs then.... NOT! :rolleyes:

No, the virus H1N1 has combined with H5N1 with the help of the vaccine, and they are putting the story out about the bird getting it as a cover up..

ariel
27-11-2009, 03:49 PM
Putting Bird flu in a vaccine...
like Baxter was caught doing in January 2009
and remember this story about testing this out bird flu in vaccine on homeless people in Poland in July 2008.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/poland/2235676/Homeless-people-die-after-bird-flu-vaccine-trial-in-Poland.html

Homeless people die after bird flu vaccine trial in Poland

Three Polish doctors and six nurses are facing criminal prosecution after a number of homeless people died following medical trials for a vaccine to the H5N1 bird-flu virus.

konik
27-11-2009, 04:02 PM
Sue Hogg, an executive producer at the BBC, had the idea of remaking Survivors following the recent increase in concerns about future pandemics and diseases such as SARS.

thesaurus entry for hog/hogg

Main Entry: hog
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: pig
Synonyms:
boar, cob roller, oinker, piggy, piglet, porker, razorback, shoat, sow, swine, warthog
Notes: swine is the collective (and ancestral) term for domesticated pigs and hogs; a hog is 120 pounds and ready for market, a pig is immature and weighs less