deja vu

[gonzo power]

Lately I have been experiencing a sudden increase in deja vu. Formerly I would experience the deja vu sensation rarely (maybe 3 times a year). But now it's gotten to the point where I experience it practically every day. Is this somehow linked to the awakening experience? Has anyone else experienced a deja vu increase after they became awakened? My awakening happened 2 months ago, if that helps answer anything.

I appreciate any replies.

[herebynightfall]

glitch in the matrix..

you had to expect someone to say it some time..

so i got it out of the way.

it's maybe, a reinforcer to nudge on you the importance of certain time periods, or situations. or the availability of something.

neo saw the black cat twice, a being higher than the matrix was nudging the foreshadowing of bad luck on him. so he could prepare for a down and dirty rest of the day.

look for realizations of certain things when it happens.

should not be forced realizations.

eiither ones that come naturally, or not at all.

[cruise4]

I've had others mention Deja vu to me recently. Syncronicity everywhere lately.

[gonzo power]

I've had others mention Deja vu to me recently. Syncronicity everywhere lately.
Yeah, I also wanted to mention that in addition to deja vu, I've had a lot of weird synchronicities lately. For instance, I recently discovered that the father of one of my good friends (this friend is also my roomate's girlfriend) is a 32nd degree mason. I had no clue, and I even got drunk at a party earlier in the year with this mason. Then I find out that my roomate is a 3rd degree mason (which isn't a big deal, but still). So, I discover this and I log onto my myspace page. Lo and behold, one of the first things I see is an advertisement for masonic door knockers and other masonic products.

Also, I found out today that I get to confront Madeiline Albright in a few days. A few hours later, I'm browsing a forum (not this one, a different one) and someone has a large picture of Madeiline Albright as their avatar and it's staring me right in the face! :eek:

I feel like something is definitely up with my life. I don't know what yet, but I'm going to find out soon enough.

[lifeofbrian]

You're 'in the Zone' - in the 'now'.

Welcome. :)

[gonzo power]

You're 'in the Zone' - in the 'now'.

Welcome. :)
Thank you. It feels an odd place to be, but I guess that's because it's new to me. I think I've finally gotten past the whole stage of questioning my own sanity (which lasted for about six weeks). Now I know everything's ok, I'm not insane, I'm just very different now.

[gonzo power]

glitch in the matrix..

you had to expect someone to say it some time..
Hah, yeah, my roomate said the same thing when I asked him about it earlier.

it's maybe, a reinforcer to nudge on you the importance of certain time periods, or situations. or the availability of something.

neo saw the black cat twice, a being higher than the matrix was nudging the foreshadowing of bad luck on him. so he could prepare for a down and dirty rest of the day.

look for realizations of certain things when it happens.

should not be forced realizations.

eiither ones that come naturally, or not at all.
I'm starting to see that. I'm starting to see that it's all almost like a code that I can read. Because the deja vu's only happen when I'm talking to or surrounded by important or perhaps soon-to-be important people in my life. I am taking them as signs now.

[cruise4]

Watch the 'I may be mad/sanity' thing. It can come and go :D Stay Positive.

[lydia78]

I always see deja vu as a sign your in the right place at the right time,

never seen it as sinister or a glitch in the reality frame

but as a direct soul map...giving you a reminder:)

Has anyone had negative deja vu experiences?

[Anders Lindman]

There is some fiction in your truth, and some truth in your fiction.

The Animatrix - YouTube

Is the Matrix real? :eek:

[lifeofbrian]

Is the Matrix real? :eek:

The Matrix is the collective sub-/unconscious.

To break free, become your self. An individual, not a clone.

And somebody please tell the new agers. The New Sheeple.

[i_am]

Synchronisty happens all the time. You are now recognising it for what it is and not putting it down to 'coincidence'
:)

As for deja vu I believe that as we move from the collective sub/unconscious (as lifeofbrian called it) to the collective superconsciousness we are tapping into everything that is, was and will ever be. It is all now.

[lydia78]

Synchronisty happens all the time. You are now recognising it for what it is and not putting it down to 'coincidence' :)


spot on i am :)

[eternal_spirit]

I read about de ja vu, after reading what it was, I realized I'd experienced 'what it was' before reading about it, many times before. So therefore it happens alright.

Ever had a group de ja vu where one or more of you are having a de ja vu at the same time lol I like de ja vu. :)

[lydia78]

I read about de ja vu, after reading what it was, I realized I'd experienced 'what it was' before reading about it, many times before. So therefore it happens alright.

Ever had a group de ja vu where one or more of you are having a de ja vu at the same time lol I like de ja vu. :)

yes my family and i experience that quite a bit,

especially recently

is hilarious.....a group of people going 'i know what your going to do/say next...'

Brilliant!!:D

[lifeofbrian]

Synchronisty happens all the time. You are now recognising it for what it is and not putting it down to 'coincidence'
:)

As for deja vu I believe that as we move from the collective sub/unconscious (as lifeofbrian called it) to the collective superconsciousness we are tapping into everything that is, was and will ever be. It is all now.

Aye.

The difference between synchronicity and coincidence is focus. Either we are 100% focused on and in the 'now' - come hell or high water we are relaxed and ready - or we are 'elsewhere' in-our-minds and thus 'taken by surprise', constantly having to adjust to what we perceive as a reality outside our selves. The inner and outer being out-of-sync/unawareness of the relationship between the inner and the outer. 'Fighters' are in a denial of this kind, fighting through non-acceptance the outer and ignoring the inner.

Moving from the basic five senses into the additional seven means dropping the blinkers, and there are many to drop, a lot of un-plugging to do.

Deja vu is tapping into the 5D. People have been doing it for ages, in every culture, and it has nothing to do with "2012" - it is individual spiritual evolution. Shamans and psychics are able to enter 5D at will - not everything is contained there, some of the 'demons' are in 4D, fallen between chairs so to speak. Or, in plain English, they are energy (life force) residue so attached to earth and earthly sensations they have yet to move on. Either through lack of higher 'belief' which may send them into the 'light' for reincarnation, or through fear.

Anyroad, sorry for going on. Good topic.

[ninja17]

i am twenty now and can remember having dejavues since i was a kid and i have them till this day.never had negatives though,i think.

i dont know if we talk about the same dejavue.i had dreams and short sequences of these were actually came true and i recognized them in the pure of the moment,like:woah!i dreamed just that shit some time ago!...

dont know alot people that had it but i think its a common phenomenon.

[lifeofbrian]

Deja vu is the sense that 'hey, this happened before' or 'I recognize this' or 'I knew it'.

Dreams coming true is precognition, the appetizer of psychic ability, awareness operating from the 'third eye'.

[eternal_spirit]

i dont know if we talk about the same dejavue.i had dreams and short sequences of these were actually came true and i recognized them in the pure of the moment,like:woah!i dreamed just that shit some time ago!...

dont know alot people that had it but i think its a common phenomenon.
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That's happened to me and it is Wow experience. :)
I've tried to explain to people I'm with when this happens, it's not easy, because no one else had said yes I dreamed the same thing.

Not sure if this is the right word ( dream precognition) It's seeing the future as you said in a dream, but I can't explain it. Why it happens.

[lifeofbrian]

Precognition is having been in communication with the higher self, which has a wider perspective and exists outside 'time' (4D). If you can communicate with your higher self you know you are a souled human being, no 'psychopath'/organic portal. Shit in food has blocked a lot of people from being able to remember their dreams nowadays, and so has hectic lifestyles. Or rage issues which affect the amygdala.

Keeping a dream journal can be interesting. Most of our dreams consist of what we feed our mental body during the day. It processes stuff we've read or are struggling with intellectually. Occasionally the higher self can break through with 'answers' though.

It's why people sometimes say 'let me sleep on it'. Especially regarding problems. The conscious mind has maybe during the daytime had an overload of stress hormones and is cut off from higher knowledge and has instead entered tunnel vision/panic. 'Sleeping on it' has solved many a problem. :)

Psychics have embodied their higher self, and can access the wider perspective any time they wish.

[ninja17]

sometimes it feels like you already lived the same life and its happening again and these dream sequences coming actually true are kind of a reminder.

[i_am]

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That's happened to me and it is Wow experience. :)
I've tried to explain to people I'm with when this happens, it's not easy, because no one else had said yes I dreamed the same thing.

Not sure if this is the right word ( dream precognition) It's seeing the future as you said in a dream, but I can't explain it. Why it happens.

I used to work with someone who often had the same dream as I did. Everytime this happened, it came true :eek:

[lydia78]

Precognition is having been in communication with the higher self, which has a wider perspective and exists outside 'time' (4D). If you can communicate with your higher self you know you are a souled human being, no 'psychopath'/organic portal. Shit in food has blocked a lot of people from being able to remember their dreams nowadays, and so has hectic lifestyles.

Keeping a dream journal can be interesting. Most of our dreams consist of what we feed our mental body during the day. It processes stuff we've read or are struggling with intellectually. Occasionally the higher self can break through with 'answers' though.

It's why people sometimes say 'let me sleep on it'. Especially regarding problems. The conscious mind has had an overload of stress hormones and is cut off from higher knowledge and entered tunnel vision/panic. 'Sleeping on it' has solved many a problem. :)

Psychics have embodied their higher self, and can access this wider perspective any time they wish.

I second your view...very true that.

[bigus_dickus]

Aye.

The difference between synchronicity and coincidence is focus. Either we are 100% focused on and in the 'now' - come hell or high water we are relaxed and ready - or we are 'elsewhere' in-our-minds and thus 'taken by surprise', constantly having to adjust to what we perceive as a reality outside our selves. The inner and outer being out-of-sync/unawareness of the relationship between the inner and the outer. 'Fighters' are in a denial of this kind, fighting through non-acceptance the outer and ignoring the inner.

spot on. i think, as others have already demonstrated or taught, that part of the awakening process, is recognizing that every event, is just part of a totality, a universal 'meaningful coincidence'. that's because there is no incident independent of other incidents, everything that happens depends on other happenings, that happen at once. this is what the notion of living in the 'now', the moment really means, that everything is interconnected. there cannot be a wave on the sea that is independent of other waves. a wave is a form, it comes and goes, it makes other waves, it depends on time and on its environment and it is in itself an illusion for it doesn't really exist. a wave is simply a movement of the water, but it's the same old water, not a separate object, nothing more, nothing less. this wave, is our mind and the mind produces time. no time is no mind.

synchronicity is just a term, it doesn't really exist. it is a term that is used when we have that feeling, that glimpse of oneness, that awareness which is independent of time and springs from pure consciousness.

Moving from the basic five senses into the additional seven means dropping the blinkers, and there are many to drop, a lot of un-plugging to do.

Deja vu is tapping into the 5D. People have been doing it for ages, in every culture, and it has nothing to do with "2012" - it is individual spiritual evolution. Shamans and psychics are able to enter 5D at will - not everything is contained there, some of the 'demons' are in 4D, fallen between chairs so to speak. Or, in plain English, they are energy (life force) residue so attached to earth and earthly sensations they have yet to move on. Either through lack of higher 'belief' which may send them into the 'light' for reincarnation, or through fear.

Anyroad, sorry for going on. Good topic.

that's why it remains unexplained. scientists have been trying to explain it, with theories that say that it is a 'delay' of the brain that happens due to the momentary lack of oxygenating. however this is just an assumption that derives from observation and not an explanation. that's because the event of deja vu is a feeling and not a thought, while the concept of deja vu is a thought produced by this feeling that seems absurd. that's because it defies the concept of time, hence it overrides our mind.

[mr_moon]

The Matrix is the collective sub-/unconscious.

To break free, become your self. An individual, not a clone.

And somebody please tell the new agers. The New Sheeple.

There seems to be a lot of Prejudice on this board... i've noticed it a lot now and here are a few of the key words that keep popping out:

Sheeple
Clones
New Agers
Reptilians
Trolls

We spend so much of our time focusing on other people and what they 'should' be doing, what they 'shouldn't' be doing. We speak of 'awakening' and 'enlightenment'. We speak of 'reality' and 'truth'. But what are all these things really? Who are 'Sheeple' and 'New Agers'?

If something doesn't 'fit' into our lives, if it doesn't 'resonate' with us in a particular way, then we have a tendency to either dismiss it, ignore it or challenge it...is this healthy? Who knows but i know that in my experience it isn't healthy at all. It doesn't make me feel good challenging someone- it makes me feel DRAINED.

Some people get a kick out of anger and fighting and judging... and that is perfectly fine! Choice is a beautiful thing and I know that when I accepted that people have the right to their own choices, no matter how evil or nasty they may appear to be, I could see how to raise my own vibrational frequency into a realm where i could actually make a difference... people have entered my life who can help and bring Joy and Love. I'm not saying we can make a BIG difference on our own but we make a difference to our reality in such a way, that other people come along who can add to that difference...

But do you see the dilemma here? Isn't making a difference basically saying that I want to 'change' things? Of course it is but only to change my OWN perceptions of reality and accept that i am willing to do so.

Whatever we pay attention to, even in our minds and thoughts, becomes reality. It REALLY becomes REAL!! If we are with people who are focusing on the same thing...it becomes real to us ALL!!

Arguing and conflict pushes and pulls things in and out of reality.


Much Love
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[lifeofbrian]

mr moon,

I beg your pardon, maybe I forgot the code of conduct in the forum.

I just can't ignore a very real design in society to catch those currently paying attention to 'what the eye can't see'.

In my humble opinion the New Age movement is not some harmless club for the lost and confused, it is designed to trap the very same.

Just my opinion. Sorry for being realistic. Sorry, I mean negative.

Enjoy the weekend and never mind me. Trust your own insights.

[eternal_spirit]

I read something that it's linked to bi polar disorders, epilepsy. But it didn't explain or prove that was the case.
It's more than just the brain at play. I've even had the same de ja vu with the same people. Kind of like a repeat de ja vu years later.

[eternal_spirit]

Precognition is having been in communication with the higher self, which has a wider perspective and exists outside 'time' (4D). If you can communicate with your higher self you know you are a souled human being, no 'psychopath'/organic portal. Shit in food has blocked a lot of people from being able to remember their dreams nowadays, and so has hectic lifestyles. Or rage issues which affect the amygdala.

Keeping a dream journal can be interesting. Most of our dreams consist of what we feed our mental body during the day. It processes stuff we've read or are struggling with intellectually. Occasionally the higher self can break through with 'answers' though.

It's why people sometimes say 'let me sleep on it'. Especially regarding problems. The conscious mind has maybe during the daytime had an overload of stress hormones and is cut off from higher knowledge and has instead entered tunnel vision/panic. 'Sleeping on it' has solved many a problem. :)

Psychics have embodied their higher self, and can access the wider perspective any time they wish.
............

Great post Brian
Remembering dreams when you feel you can read meanings about future, past present events........It's a great feeling and gives you that extra advantage/control over events.

Dreams can surface to the mind at the least expected times, when you're awake and the dream fits the scene like you dreamt it before.....is this proof of part of your life plan that you made before being incarnated when you where in spirit form? and this info has been tapped form the higher self/subconcious mind.

[i_am]

mr moon,

I beg your pardon, maybe I forgot the code of conduct in the forum.

I just can't ignore a very real design in society to catch those currently paying attention to 'what the eye can't see'.

In my humble opinion the New Age movement is not some harmless club for the lost and confused, it is designed to trap the very same.

Just my opinion. Sorry for being realistic. Sorry, I mean negative.

Enjoy the weekend and never mind me. Trust your own insights.

I think people have different ideas of what is considered 'new age'. Some think of it as an organised cult or religion, and there is that aspect. However talking about different dimensions, synchronicity, higher consciousness etc are considered by many to be New Age BS. Of course it is in fact very Old Age, ancient knowledge that has been suppressed.

It all depends on your perception and where you are on the evolution scale.

This is a good thread and we have had some wonderful responses.

[neutron flux]

Just some extra data I thought I'd chuck into the mix:


Q: (L) So, the universe you are in, is what it is, and you are in it for some reason... (T) You're in it to learn lessons... just
to change the universe because you don't want to learn the lessons you've chosen to learn... (L) Or, you have learned
them and thereby CAN change the universe... (T) When you learn, you just move on automatically, you don't have to
change the universe. The universe will change for you.
A: Deja vu comes to you compliments of 4th density STS.
Q: (L) Is deja vu a result of some sensation of the universe having changed?
A: Or... some sensation of reality bridging.
Q: (T) As you move into the new one, you have leftovers?
A: No.
Q: (L) What is reality bridging?
A: What does it sound like?
Q: (L) Is it somewhat like merging universes? (T) A bridge is something you put between two things...
A: You wish to limit, wait till 4th density, when the word will be obsolete!
Q: (L) That still doesn't help me to understand deja vu as a "sensation of reality bridging." Is deja vu because something
comes into our reality from another?
A: One possibility..
Q: (T) Didn't we talk about this? That it is a bleed through from other dimensions... that when we think we have been
someplace before, it is because in another dimension we have...
A: Yes.
Q: (L) If you are now in a particular universe that has been created and merged by 4th density STS, and there is still the
old universe existing, and you feel a connection, or a bridging, because some alternate self is in that alternate universe,
living through some experience... or a similar thing?
A: No limits of possibilities.
Q: (L) So it can be any and all of those things, and bridging realities of "past" and "future," as well. Is it possible to
change the past within a discrete universe, or does every change imply a new or alternate universe?
A: Discrete does not get it.
Q: (L) Well, within a particular, selected one of the universes, can you go back in time, within that universe, change the
past, and have it change everything forward, still within that selected universe, like a domino effect?
A: In such a case, yes.

[cruise4]

Can someone define for me "New Age movement" please?

[lifeofbrian]

Can someone define for me "New Age movement" please?

Briefly, it is designed to be the 'spiritual path' of people within the New World Order. A synthesis of all previous religions. It is how they will try to attempt a 'sense of oneness'. Telling people they are all 'gods'.

Under the surface we find Freemasonry, Blavatsky, transcendental meditation, satanism, a pressure for conformity - hey, there's even a dresscode, and the 'communion' is the intake of drugs regularly - and urge people to like a sponge suck up the 'incoming energies'.

Monarch butterfly, a typical MKUltra term for mind controlled slaves.

Transform (stop critical thought) and become a butterfly in 2012. Suck up the microwaves and trust it is your spirit filling you with god-petrol.

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There is a reason for the timing of all this. Whenever the psychos in power know there is something 'genuine' coming up, they will introduce their own version to hi-jack the less critical minds. Spiritually, it's like sugar-laced cyanide.

IMHO, the New Age movement is the trap, not the real deal. The real deal, the real 'shift', does not come with any dogma. Nor is it carrying on the idea of 'religion'.

IMHO & according to research. I welcome information to prove it wrong.

[cruise4]

Good, thanks, glad you responded as this illustrates my difficulty with this term. I'm not having a go here at all, but can you answer this further?

"Briefly, it is designed to be the 'spiritual path' of people within the New World Order. A synthesis of all previous religions. It is how they will try to attempt a 'sense of oneness'. Telling people they are all 'gods'."

As oppose to what?

Under the surface we find Freemasonry, Blavatsky, transcendental meditation, satanism, a pressure for conformity -

Can you define what freemasonry ideas specifically?
So transcendental meditation is a NWO ploy?

hey, there's even a dresscode,

Which is?

and the 'communion' is the intake of drugs regularly -

So all drug takers are New Ager's?

and urge people to like a sponge suck up the 'incoming energies'.

What incoming energies from where?

Monarch butterfly, a typical MKUltra term for mind controlled slaves.

Yes... no problem there.

Transform (stop critical thought) and become a butterfly in 2012. Suck up the microwaves and trust it is your spirit filling you with god-petrol.

No ELF towers etc. round here. I'm not using mobiles. I'm switching off every electrical appliance in the place as much as possible yet I can still feel an incoming energy for sure. It feels like MDMA. Hardly another house round here. Only under specific thought conditions though.
So what are you saying this feeling is?

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There is a reason for the timing of all this. Whenever the psychos in power know there is something 'genuine' coming up,

What 'genuine thing' is coming up?

they will introduce their own version to hi-jack the less critical minds. Spiritually, it's like sugar-laced cyanide.

Which differs how?

IMHO, the New Age movement is the trap, not the real deal. The real deal, the real 'shift', does not come with any dogma. Nor is it carrying on the idea of 'religion'.

How to tell apart?

IMHO & according to research. I welcome information to prove it wrong.

[lifeofbrian]

Good, thanks, glad you responded as this illustrates my difficulty with this term. I'm not having a go here at all, but can you answer this further?

I'll try my best. And to keep it brief.

"Briefly, it is designed to be the 'spiritual path' of people within the New World Order. A synthesis of all previous religions. It is how they will try to attempt a 'sense of oneness'. Telling people they are all 'gods'."

As oppose to what?

As opposed to no path. As opposed to people having a choice. To be themselves, not some 'god'.

Under the surface we find Freemasonry, Blavatsky, transcendental meditation, satanism, a pressure for conformity -

Can you define what freemasonry ideas specifically?
So transcendental meditation is a NWO ploy?

Well, the primary one is acknowledging 'God'. That is a 'must'.

Transcendental meditation is not expanding awareness, it flattens it.

hey, there's even a dresscode,

Which is?

Ask Baron von Lotsov.

and the 'communion' is the intake of drugs regularly -

So all drug takers are New Ager's?

I did not say that. The idea is to get people used to turning to drugs (Soma) whenever life is 'uncomfortable' or feelings 'negative' or 'boring'. Instead of dealing with life.

How is something made 'interesting' or 'desireable'? By banning it. Those guys invented marketing.

and urge people to like a sponge suck up the 'incoming energies'.

What incoming energies from where?

Ask any channeler. What are they channeling? How do we know they are telling the truth? Which truth?

Monarch butterfly, a typical MKUltra term for mind controlled slaves.

Yes... no problem there.

Good.

Transform (stop critical thought) and become a butterfly in 2012. Suck up the microwaves and trust it is your spirit filling you with god-petrol.

No ELF towers etc. round here. I'm not using mobiles. I'm switching off every electrical appliance in the place as much as possible yet I can still feel an incoming energy for sure. It feels like MDMA. Hardly another house round here.
So what are you saying this feeling is?

Anything said or proven to originate outside a person clearly is not coming from within, right? There are such phenomena as auto-suggestion and mass hysteria. Any desire to 'fit in'/'not missing out' can trigger auto-suggestion, self-created sensations. That, one can say comes from within, but what if people were told it/something was going to happen. Would it still be their own feelings?

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There is a reason for the timing of all this. Whenever the psychos in power know there is something 'genuine' coming up,

What 'genuine thing' is coming up?

A peak in learning. Have you heard of this thing called the Internet? Swings both ways, both an instrument for control as well as giving people ideas. Also, there is some solar system stuff going on.

they will introduce their own version to hi-jack the less critical minds. Spiritually, it's like sugar-laced cyanide.

Which differs how?

Still hierarchical thinking - the pyramid - with gurus/messiahs/dictators. 'Love' becoming an order, not something as a result from actually growing up and learning about compassion and co-operation in spite of differences.

IMHO, the New Age movement is the trap, not the real deal. The real deal, the real 'shift', does not come with any dogma. Nor is it carrying on the idea of 'religion'.

How to tell apart?

Practise. Discerning isn't easy, as the movement is like any disinformation party; sandwiching one truth between two lies, or one lie between two truths.

IMHO & according to research. I welcome information to prove it wrong.

[pumma]

De-Ja Vu > Remembering the future ...

I had the strongest one 11 years ago > ... What was about to happen I've told it to my friend and said "now wach this..." few moments later it happened... He was in total shock :D

[ninja17]

that is sumthin i was never able to do.in front of my eyes it runs like a short movie and then its over.never had time to react in this particular moment.weird

[cruise4]

LifeofBrian.. thanks for having a go but like everyone else I've asked you lay out a 'catch-all' scenario, there's no distinction to seperate New Age from 'anything' that may happen.

For example you mention the Planets. That fits a 'New Age' philosophy perfectly.

You mention 'energy from outside' but there's phantom limb syndrome. Is that outside or inside? Is a chip outside or inside? Are planetary forces affecting us outside or inside? If we create our own reality then everything outside is within.

Acknowledge God and God means what? Man, Man combined, Heavens God, Allah, Jesus, Prime Creator, agnostic... without a specific... its meaningless.

"Transcendental meditation is not expanding awareness, it flattens it."
I think this is very debateble and a red herring in this discussion.

Channelling... from what I can tell Edgar cayce, for one was an accurate channeller. Its not possible to dismiss it all as rubbish although undoubtably much of it probably is.

I'd say the term New Age is a nonsense term and meaningless when applied to the NWO.

False Religion is the term that should be used. This would encompass Chips, Microwaves, false God, Holograms, Additives etc. and could be defined.

People are mixing this stuff up so much its unintelligable as soon as these words are introduced. Oneness is another... that term could mean so many different things and people use it as a meaningful phrase. But its not.

Evolution, the real biblical God, creating our own Reality, dimension shift...
surely these potentials are better termed 'New Age'.

I am genuinely trying to understand here. Not playing devils advocate.

[lifeofbrian]

LifeofBrian.. thanks for having a go but like everyone else I've asked you lay out a 'catch-all' scenario, there's no distinction to seperate New Age from 'anything' that may happen.

There are ways to distinguish, but like I said, the whole purpose of disinformation is to mix some truth in with the lies to make people buy it.

For example you mention the Planets. That fits a 'New Age' philosophy perfectly.

Yes, well, there's not a lot they miss. What they can't fully control though, is a healthy gut feeling, or psychics outside any popular cult/movement.

You mention 'energy from outside' but there's phantom limb syndrome. Is that outside or inside? Is a chip outside or inside? Are planetary forces affecting us outside or inside? If we create our own reality then everything outside is within.

My guess re: the phantom pain is that it has to do with the nerves. Inside. Planetary forces are if anything affecting earth primarily, then it in turn affects grounded lifeforms in the earth's field. Creating our reality vs perceiving our reality (inner v outer focus) are two slightly different things.

Acknowledge God and God means what? Man, Man combined, Heavens God, Allah, Jesus, Prime Creator, agnostic... without a specific... its meaningless.

I agree.

"Transcendental meditation is not expanding awareness, it flattens it."
I think this is very debateble and a red herring in this discussion.

It was an example to show even the area of meditation has been polluted, so to speak.

Channelling... from what I can tell Edgar cayce, for one was an accurate channeller. Its not possible to dismiss it all as rubbish although undoubtably much of it probably is.

Edgar Cayce was a trance-medium who free of charge offered medical help to people with personal problems, and much of the help worked, so I think he has been 'tested' and proven to be genuine, like many shamans with a similar approach and tradition of trances. One or two genuine trance-mediums do not prove they - any self-proclaimed channeler - are all honest though.

I'd say the term New Age is a nonsense term and meaningless when applied to the NWO.

Still, it's become the term.

NWO = 'bad cop'
New Age = 'good cop'

Oldest trick in the book.

False Religion is the term that should be used. This would encompass Chips, Microwaves, false God, Holograms, Additives etc. and could be defined.

Sure.

People are mixing this stuff up so much its unintelligable as soon as these words are introduced. Oneness is another... that term could mean so many different things and people use it as a meaningful phrase. But its not.

That's become another area of confusion, I agree. Oneness in the personal context is to heal oneself, as in having a realistic view of oneself, and further on develop any talents and abilities to become the person one was meant to be, had it not been for indoctrination and oppression in the formative years. Oneness in the general sense means recognizing all people have the life force in them and as no-one can create this life force we have no right to rob anyone of it either, nor try to take control of anyone else's. Simply, respect life. IMO.

Evolution, the real biblical God, creating our own Reality, dimension shift...
surely these potentials are better termed 'New Age'.

What real biblical God? Dimension shifts happen all the time to people, and always have. Nothing 'new' about it. But I respect your stand.

I am genuinely trying to understand here. Not playing devils advocate.

No problem. We're just seriously off-topic. :)
I'm off to meet some people IRL shortly cruise4, you can always use a PM if I've been confusing, unintentionally. See you around.

[cruise4]

No worries, cheers for answering. Just to be clear I don't believe in a biblical God... its just an example. Ultimately we seem to agree these terms are confusing so I'm back to square one.

One thing relevant to me is, if I'm chipped and they can communicate to it then how can I trust myself to judge energy inputs? On the other hand why would I be questioning it if their technology works?

And this could be the trap they have laid. Its not quite how we expect. I suppose time will tell.

A resolution to some of these questions may help.

[lifeofbrian]

No worries, cheers for answering. Just to be clear I don't believe in a biblical God... its just an example. Ultimately we seem to agree these terms are confusing so I'm back to square one.

One thing relevant to me is, if I'm chipped and they can communicate to it then how can I trust myself to judge energy inputs? On the other hand why would I be questioning it if their technology works?

And this could be the trap they have laid. Its not quite how we expect. I suppose time will tell.

A resolution to some of these questions may help.

You don't seem 'chipped' to me, if that's any help.

Basically, here's what seems to be the best rule of thumb trying to orientate in this jungle of 'truths' - go with your basic feeling. With basic I don't mean the 'going with the flow' we can enjoy when around other people in different settings, but the private feeling one has when things are fairly mellow and not upset in any way. If there's some bond created with other people due to some belief, it's OK to enjoy hanging out with those people believing it, and enjoying their company without having to buy it fully oneself. Doubting is OK. But, should people put pressure on someone for doubting, take care.

OK, I'm off mate. Hope you have a good Saturday night.

[woghd]

My craziest deja-vu experience lasted about 20 seconds, which is strange because when I've had deja-vu in the past, it was only for a flash, and the feeling was like "Hey, that just happened twice!" or "Hey, I think I had a dream about this" But this was different.

I was riding in the passenger seat of a car when I looked out the window and saw a flag flying and flapping, and realized I had just seen that. I said to the driver "Whoa! I just had deja-vu on that flag just now" But what was wierd this time was I was expecting a black bird and something about the car, it was like the deja-vu didn't happen right. Then a black bird flew past the flag just as I was expecting/remembered it, and saw a green car coming inches away! I said "Oh shit it's still happening, watch that green car!" Right at that moment, you guessed it, the green car next to us swerved way into our lane coming within an inch or two of us and back into their own lane.

My deja-vu, if that's what it was, didn't prevent an accident or anything, as the swerving car moved faster than the driver could react to it, even with my warning, but I *did* clearly shout the warning before the green car swerved and nearly hit us. It freaked us out so much we had to pull over and talk about it.


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