Anyone Feel like packing your bags?

[xpleet]

Dear friends,

I am (trying to be) an honest person looking for honest answers from people who can somehow relate to the things I write.

My mind is trying to make sense of something, a phenomenon that is happening to me and has been now for a couple of weeks. In fact it's been like a signal, a call from the beyond, that I have noticed now and then for the last 2 years and my mind could never make any sense of it.

Now the time is drawing closer and I feel myself at en edge.
Recently I began losing all interests in going on with things in life.
I've been feeling like a suicidal but with no feelings of depression or despair whatsoever. In fact it feels like I am going exactly where I am supposed to go. The impulse responsible for all this, I am very sure - it comes right from my higher self and now my mind has to align to this. I have figured that it is impossible to be a psychological issue of any sort.
All my ties to this world are lifting and I feel like I want to move on.
- no more interests in saving the world, tasty foods, women, family, entertainment, all that which would make life seem worth living - is of no more value. I don't even fear leaving friends and loved ones behind.
It feels like I have entered a harsh transitional process, something I can not reverse or fight. Sometimes I get frustrated because part of me is already so out of this world while the other half has one foot in this world, still. This causes some serious agitation which becomes quite painful at times. This is probably the cause for the 'suicidal' feeling, hoping for a way to make this transition quicker.
My brain is still in auto-pilot which keeps daily activities going but that's really all. There is no motivation whatsoever in any worldly acitivites for me anymore.

If I didn't know better, I would use the common word "ascension", however I don't feel like this is fitting at all. I would much prefer something like "soul bailout".

I am certainly not writing this to freak you out, and if what I write here doesn't resonate with you at all, then I suggest you discard it immediatly and don't let it have any effect on your life!


All I want to know is whether there are ones amongst you who are really going through the same thing as I.


I'm not interested in any attempts on explanations, just reply if you feel like THIS and elaborate if you feel like expressing yourself.



peace

[size_of_light]

All I want to know is whether there are ones amongst you who are really going through the same thing as I.


I'm not interested in any attempts on explanations, just reply if you feel like THIS and elaborate if you feel like expressing yourself.



peace

Very similar feelings here, particularly in the last 6 months or so.

It feels like a simultaneous death and a rebirth that's taking a long time to get anywhere. A lot of pain and intense sadness for no real reason, punctuated by the rare sublime moment of complete peace and bliss. No motivation at all to rush out into the world and get involved in new projects, hobbies or social activities. No real motivation to do anything in particular and also on autopilot with daily functions.

It's kinda really cool and enjoyable in a deeply disturbing, depressing and uncomfortable way. :D

[lookfar]

Yeah I get where you're coming from xpleet & have felt similar to this as well recently.

I personally feel that I'm viewing things from a bigger picture (like stepping back almost) rather than just "human", it's like the human race as a whole isn't as important as I used to think it was. I feel a strong urge to be back in spirit & away from this place with all it's negativity & distractions. I don't feel depressed as such, just rather deluded by it all & wanting to experience something different & more meaningful than our mere human limited forms can muster.

I've not toyed with suicidal thoughts, but have felt a slight detachment to the anxiety of leaving loved ones behind, as I know I wouldn't be leaving them for good. I know this time of year is one of reflection and also with the change of season, there are lots of people becoming ill with various things. So I'm not sure if that has had something to do with how I'm feeling, who knows?

Anyway, I'm not sure if all that makes sense, it's just some rambling thoughts I've been having lately:o

[funkslug]

kind of felt the same way...but only for a split second....over it now....

what has worked for me, and might work for you is simple. Stop concentrating on all the garbage permeating in the world and start to concentrate on you and your personal spiritual development.....i have stopped drinking tapwater too, and for a man on limited means, this is expensive, but flouride scales the pineal gland, and i so want to use mine....

since i'v been doing this, i feel 2 stone lighter, and have so much more energy...so much more love in my heart.....

we have been poisoned since the 20's anyway, and we still see through their sick games...

chin up, I now know excactly why our Mr Icke is so blase about the NWO caving in on its own excrement: IT WILL. Get on the road to spiritual enlightenment, then you will know why...trust, its a real weight off ones shoulders that 1...

hope my contribution has helped your cause...

peace xxxx

[relax]

I feel similar, the difference being im trying not to live on auto pilot, had enough of that I dont like the way my mind works when im not fully conscious of it. I only feel like a desperately want out when im bored and not distracted or being creative, which is an inevitable point within each 'day'. If im going to be stuck here much longer I at least would like more conscious control over myself in terms of projection, have a lie down and pop out and go learn and experience. Havent had an astral projection yet but it seems experiencing another reality is the next step on my path.

[relax]

Things are going to change soon though xpleet I know it, with the disclosure people who are closer to ascension will get the help they want/need im sure, and not just left to stagnate with the masses learning the same program they already know.

[tusme]

Hi Xpleet,

Wow, exactly my current "Physical being" experience...!! :)

The way I see it...alot of "sh!te (negative) energy" has been generated over the Ages, which imho, has caused mankind's (individual and collective) Physical energy processes to have been diverted/distracted from it's Source or Spirit/Truth journey...or, as DI would say, Infinite Consciousness... :)

So, now it seems theres an "awakening/re-aligning" of (individual & collective) Physical energy to the Source or GOD/Truth/Spirit going on, AND, the Source or GOD/Truth/Spirit "permitting" such an energy connection/communication, especially to those most in tune with their Source or Spirit/Truth energy, to me anyway, would give one the feeling of "packing one's bags"...regardless. :eek: :D

Imho, best way to deal with it, is, "hold-on and ride-out the energy wave", to wherever it takes "us", without prejudice, sentiment or emotion...co's that my dear friend, will be our true purpose in their reality...or at least, I hope mine is, anyway... :D

Oh & btw...F.CK suicide, besides negative energy, only brings about more negative energy into this Physical dimension...as if we don't have enough already... :D

All the best my friend, stay strong & good luck...!! :cool:

[jamesc]

Could be that the awakening of higher mental processes are starting to take hold in certain people.Could also be that the individuals current vibrational processes are speeding up and ALLOWING more perceptions of higher consciousness to manifest in ones consciousness.Each person will respond to this higher level of awareness and perception of it in their own time and when it is right for them to be activated.Just my thoughts on this but i would say we all have to watch out for this in our perceptions of it.:):cool:

[funkslug]

Could be that the awakening of higher mental processes are starting to take hold in certain people.Could also be that the individuals current vibrational processes are speeding up and ALLOWING more perceptions of higher consciousness to manifest in ones consciousness.Each person will respond to this higher level of awareness and perception of it in their own time and when it is right for them to be activated.Just my thoughts on this but i would say we all have to watch out for this in our perceptions of it.:):cool:

and dont drink flouride, it firrs up your third eye like a kettle

[lyghtkynge]

Suicide does not change anything, period: it only remove the Self's Will (for most).

You are where you are most powerful, right now. Everything must be Attained from the Matter State, for it is the Energy Thrust Condition.

Lot's of Forces seek to lure folks into giving up their physical status. The 'ascension' your feeling is an illusion called delusion. You are the ascension...the Lifting Up of The Self...Yours/All's.

Just do your Work, please.

If you can sense the Inner Thrust, be aware it is a Karmically-Induced ascension or New Womb Container which is a Concurrent Necessity due to Universal Events Perception that have not actualized yet, long know.

Others who feel like the OP...don't be overwhelmed by It All. Your Body is The Stage, you just don't know it. Nothing worse then A Show when the actors refuse to go on...The Show Must Go On...In order for the Show to Denoue ItSelf.

You wouldn't miss a minute of this if you Knew what's going on Behind The Veil.
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. . . . . . . . . . . .Impersonally Yours,

[size_of_light]

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Can I borrow this for another thread?

[anahata]

These feelings are pretty relative for me.

Mostly I aim for a mental resolution for problems but I’m equally met by blockages of some sort. It’s this constant battle with choice. It’s the beauty and the beast.

Choice is governor of a situation but is also governed by other situations governed by other choices. Because my choices are interwoven with everyone else’s, I can’t go directly to my ideal. We are each governor and the governed, it’s frustrating.

Lack of understanding of these interference choices is the ignorance which is the route of all evil and it prevents us from dealing with our own agendas to the point where we don’t even know what our own agendas are.

I’ve also had this feeling of losing interest in some aspects of life but on reflection I don’t think they really rocked my world in the first place but that maybe I thought they did because of the people or circumstances of the time, once I had from that what I wanted or needed as a lesson or an experience, my attachment to it became obsolete.

I think ascension takes conscious effort and a will to get on with it. You’re not a soul bailout… you’re here aren’t’ you?

[jamesc]

and dont drink flouride, it firrs up your third eye like a kettle

:D

[dusthead]

Dear friends,

I am (trying to be) an honest person looking for honest answers from people who can somehow relate to the things I write.

My mind is trying to make sense of something, a phenomenon that is happening to me and has been now for a couple of weeks. In fact it's been like a signal, a call from the beyond, that I have noticed now and then for the last 2 years and my mind could never make any sense of it.

Now the time is drawing closer and I feel myself at en edge.
Recently I began losing all interests in going on with things in life.
I've been feeling like a suicidal but with no feelings of depression or despair whatsoever. In fact it feels like I am going exactly where I am supposed to go. The impulse responsible for all this, I am very sure - it comes right from my higher self and now my mind has to align to this. I have figured that it is impossible to be a psychological issue of any sort.
All my ties to this world are lifting and I feel like I want to move on.
- no more interests in saving the world, tasty foods, women, family, entertainment, all that which would make life seem worth living - is of no more value. I don't even fear leaving friends and loved ones behind.
It feels like I have entered a harsh transitional process, something I can not reverse or fight. Sometimes I get frustrated because part of me is already so out of this world while the other half has one foot in this world, still. This causes some serious agitation which becomes quite painful at times. This is probably the cause for the 'suicidal' feeling, hoping for a way to make this transition quicker.
My brain is still in auto-pilot which keeps daily activities going but that's really all. There is no motivation whatsoever in any worldly acitivites for me anymore.

If I didn't know better, I would use the common word "ascension", however I don't feel like this is fitting at all. I would much prefer something like "soul bailout".

I am certainly not writing this to freak you out, and if what I write here doesn't resonate with you at all, then I suggest you discard it immediatly and don't let it have any effect on your life!


All I want to know is whether there are ones amongst you who are really going through the same thing as I.


I'm not interested in any attempts on explanations, just reply if you feel like THIS and elaborate if you feel like expressing yourself.



peace

I have felt a bit like that in the past. They were very dark times.

In all seriousness please get help. It sounds like you suffer from depression. However, from what you say, you display indifference to any kind of emotional stimulus (including from your own friends and family). You are beginning to rationalise your desire to commit suicide which is very worrying indeed.

Regardless of 'alternative thought processes', suicide is not a preferable option. If it's the last thing you ever do please seek help and advice from someone you respect or trust. If there is no-one, seek professional assistance. Make an attempt to change the way you feel before it ends in a needless suicide. You are more valued than you realise.

[rowan22]

Hi xpleet. Sounds a tough place to be in I'm sorry you feel that low at the moment. I can definitely relate to what you are saying though. I think what you are feeling could be in all likelihood a very normal reaction to an abnormal situation.

To be serene and calm in the face of the things happening around the world at the moment would seem, to me, a bit bizarre?

The feelings you describe I have experienced at certain times, and I have come to believe that at its most simple level change, is almost always painful, just as the sages of old have always said. We live in a state of incompleteness don’t we?

Evolving and feeling the pressure to do so, or to regress into numb almost catatonic stupor like many unfortunate people have done.

I feel that the changes that are happening have a multi- dimensional multi faceted character.

Western ideas of what constitutes reality, are shifting. In part due to some of the more irreconcilable insights of Physics. Our language our very value base, is constructed around a view of the universe that says we can apply our thinking to observation and figure out what is happening.

The impasse within Physics (the twentieth century Cathedral) as to the lack of a “theory of everything” is leading to a very real existential shift and anxiety that is being communicated across the whole of human knowledge.

The previously unassailable idea that we can theoretically dismantle the universe and re assemble it has been dealt a severe blow by this incongruence.

The people who shape our lives, whether we are aware them doing so or not. Derive their plans for the macro movement of culture from the insights of theoretical models of how the universe works.

Greek ideas after Aristotle and Plato moved away from the Heraclitus model of universal fire of change and fluid dynamic universe and towards a more determined mechanistic model. We are having to appreciate the limits of this paradigm now aren’t we? As a species. The universe is now a Multiverse. The uncertainty principle has forces a new way of seeing the world, as has quantum physics and relativity theory.

The angst of this change is reverberating around every university and research lab on the planet.

And when you have political decisions for the future, perhaps on the species, the planet being based on this research, and not the age old reliable and common sense view of reality people start quite naturally to feel out of control and swept along by the rate and pace of change.

Try and keep in your heart this fact. Science, in spite of what people might believe, doesn't define reality into existence. Science uncovers a structure which is the result of who we are, and the way it is.

The closer our ability to contact it, the greater will be our predictive accuracy in describing its working.

But after all the data and mathematical, hadron collisions and cloud chamber analysis is complete. Who we are, the human being you are will still exist. That will not of changed, only a view of the world around you will have changed.

Reality exists within you. And in all of us. The feeling of depression is a natural thing to feel when you believe that everything has to make total sense to be trusted. It doesn't.

The limits of science are showing us that ultimately not all question can be completely asked or answered in a place where the answer is both yes and no all the time can it? It is a question which must be asked without words.

It is about humanity taking the next step in evolution and learning that far from just being about facts. This step will be about our way of being in a constantly vibrating becoming process of change. It is a shift in consciousness which may have many strands, cosmological synchronistic elements all occurring together, but we have been quite successful in our limited time here. The changes will ultimately be a creative/destructive act.

But in the end it is about learning to be at peace within our own hearts. And handing back the first position amongst equals to the feeling of being fully human and not being (overly) reliant of facts to give us permission to be what we already are.

The peace is within you, you aren’t responsible for the change any more than a fish is resistible for the river it swims in. The paradox is resolved in human hearts. A diffusion of love and hate which becomes the (I) all the spiritual practises of the world seek to unite you with in the moment of being.


And to rememebr that love is the ultimate message that is being communicated.

[xpleet]

Hi xpleet. Sounds a tough place to be in I'm sorry you feel that low at the moment.

kind of felt the same way...over it now....

I have felt a bit like that in the past. They were very dark times.


I tried my best explaining to you all, I'm sorry many of you didn't understand the essence of my post, apparently.



peace

[pureheart]

Do you feel as though you are waiting for something?

Is it as though your soul is in limbo and you feel disconnected to physical reality?

[xpleet]

Do you feel as though you are waiting for something?

Is it as though your soul is in limbo and you feel disconnected to physical reality?

Dear pureheart,

I'm not sure what you're implying but I will try to answer.


I'm not sure if I am waiting for it or if it is waiting for me. However, I am quite sure that I must go through this (deprogramming/detaching?!) process first before I can be ready to leave this planet.

The last time I remember when I spoke to the Divine and the Source it told me that i had the choice to go, all the times but I always refused. I believe my spirit has finally made the choice to leave and right now this appears to be a sort of preparation phase.
I don't think anyone can just leave smoothly while they still have much of their denials, attachments, desires with them. These must be dropped like clothes. Only then is the spirit ready to receive the pick-up home, I believe.
This is where it has been leading me for a couple of weeks now, from my understanding.



peace

[size_of_light]

I tried my best explaining to you all, I'm sorry many of you didn't understand the essence of my post, apparently.


Oi!!!!

But I understand, don't I? :p

;)

It's got nothing to do with topping yourself.

EDIT: Well, a little bit, but not seriously.

[firstlook]

I have a question Xpleet.

Do you love yourself? :)

[xpleet]

I have a question Xpleet.

Do you love yourself? :)

Dear firstlook,


if by "self" you mean the real-self within and not the physical person, then the answer is yes, I do.



peace

[firstlook]

Dear firstlook,


if by "self" you mean the real-self within and not the physical person, then the answer is yes, I do.



peace

me too. Things are great arent they.:)

[chrysoprase]

I feel the same way xpleet.

There are things I need to be doing in order to maintain my security (mostly financial) but I cannot bring myself to do them anymore. I want "out" in the worst way. I just do not want to live my life as I have been. It doesn't work for me anymore.

I am stuck between not wanting to continue in my usual way, and the fear of what will happen to me if I don't continue (homelessness and hunger, cold, etc).

Suicide is not an option (because of my pets) and because of my belief that I will only be making things harder for myself (and maybe have to go through everything all over again (and again:eek:) until I figure out the solution. (I did attempt suicide as a teenager and instead ended up hallucinating that I had bugs inside of me - some of the bugs were pyramid-shaped and had been inside of me since the Egyptian dynasty).


I need to change my life but don't know how.

One day, last week, I lay in bed with the covers pulled over my head, unable to start the day. My only escape is sleep... (and David Icke forum).

Of course, none of this makes me feel good about myself, which further compounds the problem of getting on with things.

[xpleet]

I feel the same way xpleet.

There are things I need to be doing in order to maintain my security (mostly financial) but I cannot bring myself to do them anymore. I want "out" in the worst way. I just do not want to live my life as I have been. It doesn't work for me anymore.

I am stuck between not wanting to continue in my usual way, and the fear of what will happen to me if I don't continue (homelessness and hunger, cold, etc).

Suicide is not an option (because of my pets) and because of my belief that I will only be making things harder for myself (and maybe have to go through everything all over again (and again:eek:) until I figure out the solution. (I did attempt suicide as a teenager and instead ended up hallucinating that I had bugs inside of me - some of the bugs were pyramid-shaped and had been inside of me since the Egyptian dynasty).


I need to change my life but don't know how.

One day, last week, I lay in bed with the covers pulled over my head, unable to start the day. My only escape is sleep... (and David Icke forum).

Of course, none of this makes me feel good about myself, which further compounds the problem of getting on with things.

Dear Chrysoprase,


please do understand that I do not advocate suicide, I merely used the word as a reference to some of my feelings. In fact, I do consider suicide as a reserve option, always. However, it is a gross intervention and one should always seek out other options first.
Another problem is that the system of the spirit world in the afterlife usually punishes suicide but that doesn't mean that the system is divine, it is not...

It is interesting that you mentioned pyramids, in fact in an Amanita Muscaria supported dream recently I found my consciousness trapped inside along the edges of an energetic pyramid.


Your time will come and I believe it is you who decides when that time is. As I said I believe it has to do with how much you are ready to drop your worldly desires, attachments, denials etc. You are being helped and the more you allow that the faster it will go.
Once purged enough, I believe one's consciousness will be picked up soon after.

However, this is my current believe and I'm not infallible..

peace

[tusme]

Hi Xpleet,

You ain't responded to me earlier post, hope I've not p!ssed you off in any way...? :confused: :)

The Spirit (Truth energy) being is the Source of our Physical (energy) being...meaning, without it, the Physical being ceases to exist in that form...and thus, this Physical Dimension...

That said, and especially the way your currently feeling, imho, it's very likely, your Source, the Spirit (Truth energy) being, still requires you (Physical being) for a Higher Calling...within this Physical Dimension...

Hmm, well, as I said, imho... :)

[steevo]

Dear friends,

I am (trying to be) an honest person looking for honest answers from people who can somehow relate to the things I write.

My mind is trying to make sense of something, a phenomenon that is happening to me and has been now for a couple of weeks. In fact it's been like a signal, a call from the beyond, that I have noticed now and then for the last 2 years and my mind could never make any sense of it.

Now the time is drawing closer and I feel myself at en edge.
Recently I began losing all interests in going on with things in life.
I've been feeling like a suicidal but with no feelings of depression or despair whatsoever. In fact it feels like I am going exactly where I am supposed to go. The impulse responsible for all this, I am very sure - it comes right from my higher self and now my mind has to align to this. I have figured that it is impossible to be a psychological issue of any sort.
All my ties to this world are lifting and I feel like I want to move on.
- no more interests in saving the world, tasty foods, women, family, entertainment, all that which would make life seem worth living - is of no more value. I don't even fear leaving friends and loved ones behind.
It feels like I have entered a harsh transitional process, something I can not reverse or fight. Sometimes I get frustrated because part of me is already so out of this world while the other half has one foot in this world, still. This causes some serious agitation which becomes quite painful at times. This is probably the cause for the 'suicidal' feeling, hoping for a way to make this transition quicker.
My brain is still in auto-pilot which keeps daily activities going but that's really all. There is no motivation whatsoever in any worldly acitivites for me anymore.

If I didn't know better, I would use the common word "ascension", however I don't feel like this is fitting at all. I would much prefer something like "soul bailout".

I am certainly not writing this to freak you out, and if what I write here doesn't resonate with you at all, then I suggest you discard it immediatly and don't let it have any effect on your life!


All I want to know is whether there are ones amongst you who are really going through the same thing as I.


I'm not interested in any attempts on explanations, just reply if you feel like THIS and elaborate if you feel like expressing yourself.



peace


I think that it MIGHT be some sort of transition that you are going through, where you lose fear, and because it is all new to you, it feels strange. You no longer have any interests in the physical realm (ie maybe you no longer fear not having these physical things, and you are comparing this to being like in a suicidal state, where you no longer worry about having the possessions, or having friends, relationships, money etc). I reckon that it POSSIBILY could be PART of a transitional/ascention process, but our upbringing/conditioning is making your ego put a label on this process (the ego likes to put a NEGATIVE label on everything - And when I say "negative", I would say that anything that is maybe ego based is negative to your well being). Just go with the flow, and enjoy it.

I think that you will begin to enjoy your physical life again soon, but you probably FIRST have to go through the experiences that you are NOW going through.

That's my thoughts on it :D

[lyghtkynge]

Can I borrow this for another thread?

Yes...found it on google.

[chrysoprase]

hallucinating that I had bugs inside of me - some of the bugs were pyramid-shaped and had been inside of me since the Egyptian dynasty

It is interesting that you mentioned pyramids, in fact in an Amanita Muscaria supported dream recently I found my consciousness trapped inside along the edges of an energetic pyramid.



I might be totally off base (and slightly off-topic) but, I wonder if the pyramids are some kind of trap. I wonder what this planet would be like if they had never been put there:confused:


(I wonder how I could find out)

[spiritual melody]

I tried my best explaining to you all, I'm sorry many of you didn't understand the essence of my post, apparently.



peace

I think I know what you mean...?

I have had many similar feelings to what you described, I also don't feel depressed, stressed or suicidle and the feelings I have had are peaceful relaxed and calm.

The hardest bit I feel is admitting that there is no worry about detaching from the family, I have guilt about admitting that (maybe I'm conditioned to think it is wrong) Don't get me wrong I love them and care for them lots.


I can't explain it properly, its like a kind of sensation I just feel that I could leave the world and not be in fear about it... I also feel like it hasn't got anything to do with death or dying either :confused:

[3 142]

Put simply,

Do not feel alone in any feeling.

I can relate to your post.

To be honest, I am happy for the light that the detachment of all emotions brings me - knowing that nothing can affect me, for I have no emotion.

My ego fights this 'evil, heartless, sadistic' feeling, telling itself this is not how I should feel.

I just try, with all power, to let it be.

[deathcultreject]

Stick around and raise the level.

[shellygurrrl]

Dear friends,

I am (trying to be) an honest person looking for honest answers from people who can somehow relate to the things I write.

My mind is trying to make sense of something, a phenomenon that is happening to me and has been now for a couple of weeks. In fact it's been like a signal, a call from the beyond, that I have noticed now and then for the last 2 years and my mind could never make any sense of it.

Now the time is drawing closer and I feel myself at en edge.
Recently I began losing all interests in going on with things in life.
I've been feeling like a suicidal but with no feelings of depression or despair whatsoever. In fact it feels like I am going exactly where I am supposed to go. The impulse responsible for all this, I am very sure - it comes right from my higher self and now my mind has to align to this. I have figured that it is impossible to be a psychological issue of any sort.
All my ties to this world are lifting and I feel like I want to move on.
- no more interests in saving the world, tasty foods, women, family, entertainment, all that which would make life seem worth living - is of no more value. I don't even fear leaving friends and loved ones behind.
It feels like I have entered a harsh transitional process, something I can not reverse or fight. Sometimes I get frustrated because part of me is already so out of this world while the other half has one foot in this world, still. This causes some serious agitation which becomes quite painful at times. This is probably the cause for the 'suicidal' feeling, hoping for a way to make this transition quicker.
My brain is still in auto-pilot which keeps daily activities going but that's really all. There is no motivation whatsoever in any worldly acitivites for me anymore.

If I didn't know better, I would use the common word "ascension", however I don't feel like this is fitting at all. I would much prefer something like "soul bailout".

I am certainly not writing this to freak you out, and if what I write here doesn't resonate with you at all, then I suggest you discard it immediatly and don't let it have any effect on your life!


All I want to know is whether there are ones amongst you who are really going through the same thing as I.


I'm not interested in any attempts on explanations, just reply if you feel like THIS and elaborate if you feel like expressing yourself.



peace

I have felt very similar to this. I believe it could be due to you advancing spiritually and therefore you are becoming more spirit ID rather than body ID. The things you mention that you don't like or want anymore have to do with the physical body. Trying to find out more about your Higher Self, Who You Really Are can add a spark back into your life. It has given me great comfort recently.

I have thought about what I would do if I find out I had a terminal disease and there is a part of me that would be RELIEVED to be shedding my physical incarnation. I feel tired of being here. I don't feel excitement doing hardly anything anymore and in fact, most of my experiences seem very empty. Of course, I am still afraid of death and am working on that.

I've had feelings of wanting to move on, go "home," leave 3rd density, etc. It's not a fun place - and I feel I've done it so many times. I try to tell myself not to withdraw too much though because I am here to experience and need to learn as much as possible.

It can be frustrating, to be sure.

[decim]

Wise up..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn7F75stXxI

[ozpixie]

I feel a bit similar but not suicidal or depressed. More of a quiet peace inside that doesn't stress like I used to. I do long for a world without money and politics and for the ability to just sit in the grass or the bush for long periods etc. I have lost most of my appetite and the idea of eating meat or greasy foods just revolts me.

What is very significant to me are the number of 'sleepers' who are expressing similar feelings but don't know why. I've lost count of the people who say they are tired of all this and just want to pack up and go bush with their loved ones

[lyghtkynge]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMwn_hnoS5Y
http://www.johnpitre.com/_assets/images/gallery/ascension.jpg

[xpleet]

I've had feelings of wanting to move on, go "home," leave 3rd density, etc. It's not a fun place - and I feel I've done it so many times. I try to tell myself not to withdraw too much though because I am here to experience and need to learn as much as possible.

It can be frustrating, to be sure.

Dear shellygurrrl,

The difference here is that my mind is not conditioned to think that everything that is must have a positive purpose, besides the fact that I am aware that reincarnation is not for one's good.
You are a slave, I am a slave. We have been coaxed to come here under the blanked of hypochrisy in various brainwashing schools in the spirit world just like you said that it was for "us experiencing ourselves, learning spiritual evolution blablajaddajadda BULLSHIT" the place up there is dominated as much by the same people who dominate planet earth by the way.

Without digressing too much - it gives you an idea. Some of us just don't want to be slaves anymore - no slaves to labour, no slaves to sex, no slave to desires of food, luxury, entertainment, not slaves to the human condition.

This is what I personally call spiritual evolution, not spiritual indoctrination but the mere will to resist, growing and growing.



peace

[shellygurrrl]

Dear shellygurrrl,

The difference here is that my mind is not conditioned to think that everything that is must have a positive purpose, besides the fact that I am aware that reincarnation is not for one's good.
You are a slave, I am a slave. We have been coaxed to come here under the blanked of hypochrisy in various brainwashing schools in the spirit world just like you said that it was for "us experiencing ourselves, learning spiritual evolution blablajaddajadda BULLSHIT" the place up there is dominated as much by the same people who dominate planet earth by the way.

Without digressing too much - it gives you an idea. Some of us just don't want to be slaves anymore - no slaves to labour, no slaves to sex, no slave to desires of food, luxury, entertainment, not slaves to the human condition.

This is what I personally call spiritual evolution, not spiritual indoctrination but the mere will to resist, growing and growing.



peace
Ok, I see what you're saying. I guess for me, choosing to think it is for a positive purpose has enabled me to proceed through whatever this physical life thing is with less stress. It's easier for me to try and view everything positively, but that is not to say I don't have rough days where I say "fuck it all."

I have thought along the lines as you... what if we are beings from somewhere else trapped here. Don't Scientologists think that, that they are ancient aliens who got trapped here and are reincarnating over and over (I don't know the whole story). That's when I first entertained that thought.

If we are slaves (and I am inclined to think we are ENSLAVED for sure), then shouldn't we try to focus on how to get OUT of here? In my view, that is done by trying to separate oneself as much as possible from the body, so that when it is time to shed your container (body), you will not cling to it, based on fears, etc. And I think you are saying that is what you are doing. So really our views are not that different.

[xpleet]

Ok, I see what you're saying. I guess for me, choosing to think it is for a positive purpose has enabled me to proceed through whatever this physical life thing is with less stress. It's easier for me to try and view everything positively, but that is not to say I don't have rough days where I say "fuck it all."

I have thought along the lines as you... what if we are beings from somewhere else trapped here. Don't Scientologists think that, that they are ancient aliens who got trapped here and are reincarnating over and over (I don't know the whole story). That's when I first entertained that thought.

If we are slaves (and I am inclined to think we are ENSLAVED for sure), then shouldn't we try to focus on how to get OUT of here? In my view, that is done by trying to separate oneself as much as possible from the body, so that when it is time to shed your container (body), you will not cling to it, based on fears, etc. And I think you are saying that is what you are doing. So really our views are not that different.

Dear shellygurrrl,

Don't Scientologists think that, that they are ancient aliens who got trapped here and are reincarnating over and over

yep that's what they are.

And so were Heaven's Gate. That's why they took their lives btw, to return to where they came from.

Suicide is a rough intervention tho, better to look for a different way. Death is probably not even necessary.

I have thought along the lines as you... what if we are beings from somewhere else trapped here.

It's not a "what if" for me, it's I AM and have known it for my whole life.

It took me 19 years to fully become consciously aware of it, I know it's hard to be. I think many here are going through it. And they are all going to leave much, much sooner than they expect right now, I'm sure :D

Maybe a walk-in will come take my place who knows? :confused::D All I know is I won't be here much longer, atleast not as long as I initially thought I was going to be. And it makes me feel gooood. My spirit decided it's got enough and so be it. If however suicide is eventually necessary (which I don't think it will) then so it shall be. I will not waste my existence and simply wait it all out.



peace

[size_of_light]

Yes...found it on google.

Thanks.

[azureangel]

Dear friends,

I am (trying to be) an honest person looking for honest answers from people who can somehow relate to the things I write.

My mind is trying to make sense of something, a phenomenon that is happening to me and has been now for a couple of weeks. In fact it's been like a signal, a call from the beyond, that I have noticed now and then for the last 2 years and my mind could never make any sense of it.

Now the time is drawing closer and I feel myself at en edge.
Recently I began losing all interests in going on with things in life.
I've been feeling like a suicidal but with no feelings of depression or despair whatsoever. In fact it feels like I am going exactly where I am supposed to go. The impulse responsible for all this, I am very sure - it comes right from my higher self and now my mind has to align to this. I have figured that it is impossible to be a psychological issue of any sort.
All my ties to this world are lifting and I feel like I want to move on.
- no more interests in saving the world, tasty foods, women, family, entertainment, all that which would make life seem worth living - is of no more value. I don't even fear leaving friends and loved ones behind.
It feels like I have entered a harsh transitional process, something I can not reverse or fight. Sometimes I get frustrated because part of me is already so out of this world while the other half has one foot in this world, still. This causes some serious agitation which becomes quite painful at times. This is probably the cause for the 'suicidal' feeling, hoping for a way to make this transition quicker.
My brain is still in auto-pilot which keeps daily activities going but that's really all. There is no motivation whatsoever in any worldly acitivites for me anymore.

If I didn't know better, I would use the common word "ascension", however I don't feel like this is fitting at all. I would much prefer something like "soul bailout".

I am certainly not writing this to freak you out, and if what I write here doesn't resonate with you at all, then I suggest you discard it immediatly and don't let it have any effect on your life!

All I want to know is whether there are ones amongst you who are really going through the same thing as I.

I'm not interested in any attempts on explanations, just reply if you feel like THIS and elaborate if you feel like expressing yourself.

peace

Reading your intial post I wondered whether you are getting ready to leave your body. I totally understand. I'm expecting a bunch of highly evoloved beings to be leaving at any time, in fact I'm surprised that we haven't seen a mass "death" yet. You have my love and support in your ascension, as I believe it is. You from the UK seem a little self-deprecating, as though it's cheeky to use a special word sometimes. I only "met" you recently on this forum; I suspect you've spent a lot of time paving the way for those of us to follow your process.

I'm not ready to leave the Earth yet: simple answer. Now for the more complex parts. I don't think I'm a "slave" here, though. I believe we all came here for a purpose and this particular time on Earth is very special across the Cosmos. It's a very tough job and we all signed on for it. Now people will be ascending, or not, in different ways. Your question was whether we felt similar (great thread, thanks everyone). Yes. I've known I was "different" since childhood, and since 2000 life took a huge jolt; I've never been the same since. As time has gone on, I mature, become more compassionate and generous and loving to the world, but I continue to be pushed out of groups. I went from job to job (counselor, social worker) trying to find a place of authenticity or at least where I could be authentic; couldn't find one. Now I interview and am challenged about why I had so many jobs? The true answer is, my energy is too high, and it makes others feel uncomfortable. The hilarious thing is that my clients loved me for the most part; it's other workers and angency members who couldn't resonate with me. Often I literally had to repeat myself, I was literally invisible at times. If I really let my enthusiasm out, it could clear a room, without saying one word. Finally (I knew the helping was over for a few years but was afraid to quit my job) I was fired in March for no reason. Collecting unemployment. I don't resonate with most typical people. I am at a point where I am not working a job and I have no idea of what is next. For me, I'm not ready to die but toyed with the idea of suicide several times when I could not succeed in the "productive world". I do not wish for a partner. Career and family and the notion of retirement are all gone. I am connecting with other people of like mind on this forum and a little on the island where I live. Some times, like early this week, I am so "down". I described it as, like a flu without the nasal/lung symptoms. Ache all over, no energy, blah. And at other times, like size of light, I have moments of immense joy and beauty. I do still enjoy a good movie, the companionship of my dear friend, great food. Hey, with the right partner I'd love to have sacred sex. So I'm not totally disconnected from bodily pleasures. On the other hand I see many people almost feverishly practising Tantra and other interpersonal things, I wonder if they are distracting themselves, and I see the frenetic nature of that and can't resonate. I'm alternately afraid for the future, curious and enthusiastic about what may come.

I'm using the material of Almine and Karen Bishop right now. Actually getting in physical contact with the Earth helps immensely. My pets, too, you're probably all tired of hearing about them but they heal me quite a bit. In one way sometimes I too feel done with it all, but for me I know there's more. As far as helping, I let go of the savior complex I had for many years. But I do see myself as a guide and helper at times in the future. But mostly I have a dream of a New Earth. I am still attached to Earth, and I want to live here as a fully realized human. I want to communicate telepathically and play, play, play! Xpleet, only you know if you are ready to ascend. I really enjoyed and learned from all your posts I read. You mentioned your higher self as a guide to this next step. Makes total sense to me. Thanks again for opening a sensitive thread. Much love, angel

[lyghtkynge]

Escaping, getting away from the physical body, is not Freedom.

It is the Balancing of the Dual Forces of Creation, the Polar Extremes/Opposites, wherein Freedom is Attained, and the Physical Body is Required for the Power-Pulse Behind The Leap to The Other Side, the Third State of Attention Before Infinity, where Energy in no longer Predatorial, But Perfect Interchange and Creative/Creational.

The Knowledge/Power can only be attained from The Depths, that One Can Rise to The Heights with. This is Immutable, Absolute, Invariable, the only Absolute. It is All revealed right here:
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:nG7iePSFQ7rIKM:http://www.gravity.org/mythology/yinyang.PNG

Only weaklings and cowards refuse to achieve their task, the Completing of The Cycle of Light that is The Command On Their Eternal Flame Soul-Spirit, and bringing the Cycle to It's Denouement, Escape To Creative Freedom and Immortality Before Infinity. This is not attained simply by passing through death, or entering the spirit/immaterial side: that is Contained, too: It is Facing The Second Death Challenge that Freedom may be obtained.

I've got a secret for you...you're coming right back to the flesh...sooner or later, even 100's, thousands of years...until you not only Take The UnGuaranteed Ultimate Test of Passage, but Successfully Complete It. This is the Borning of living Will, the Ability to Self-Regenerate At Will, Whenever. Not so far fetched, just a rarity, currently.

Here, you will say your goodbyes, for that will be the Final Walk Away from all you have known for many hundreds, even thousands, of lifetimes. And As you Cross Into The Third State of Attention, A Matter of Grace Acceptance upon both Your and The Many In One's Part, You will meet the Ancients, Old Friends.

It's Pure Law, both Impersonal & Personal. Annhilation-Moment must be Pivoted Into Immortality, the Great Mystery. Few can do it, they Love the Uz of Earth and the Sticky of Spirit too much, the Dual Predatorial Realms....(1st & 2nd States of Attention).

But you do it your own way...lifetimes later, you'll see the light from the Capstone Path, shining upon you, calling....."Come Hither..."
http://symbolica.com.au/wp/wp-content/sun-golden-by-ra.jpg

[gooseone]

Hi xpleet.
I cannot find myself in everything that you are saying.
I can relate to parts of it.
I myself have also a hard time excepting everything "as is".
When trying to go by my feelings i can accept people as they are and love them for it....but that doesn't mean i don't get totally fed up being around some of them in a position which i feel i have been tricked into (society).
If you are really honest with yourself , do you not have placed yourself too much "above" everything and everybody ?.
Like Azureangel says , it's important to stay grounded and enjoy the little things in life, we still have a great gift called a body with wich we can experience.
Do you get a warm fuzzy feeling in your heart when contemplating a way to get out of this life ?
I have found that even though you might feel you are not being negative it still seems easier to go with negative then positive.
Love will always be the creative force :)

[rowan22]

Whatever anyone’s take is on what’s happening I guess it comes down to some pretty shared fundamentals doesn't it. You're not to blame for feeling the way you do xpleet. I get down and despondent to. As I'm do most of us from time to time. I believe that the best way to recover from this kind of feeling is to allow yourself to feel it. Everything I have previously written is just describing the context, but ultimately the feelings which are being worked through effect many of us. The feeling of isolation and as though no one cares or understands is something, no matter what your explanation we can all relate to.

It is possible to loose sight of "simple truth" that is actually very profound. Growth is painful. And sometimes it is important as the saying goes:


Without accepting the fact that everything changes, we cannot find perfect composure. But unfortunately, although it is true, it is difficult for us to accept it. Because we cannot accept the truth of transience, we suffer. ~Shunryu Suzuki


The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind. ~William Blake


Here for you brother, you’r not to blame, hang in there love to you.

[lyghtkynge]

Whatever anyone’s take is on what’s happening I guess it comes down to some pretty shared fundamentals doesn't it. You're not to blame for feeling the way you do xpleet. I get down and despondent to. As I'm do most of us from time to time. I believe that the best way to recover from this kind of feeling is to allow yourself to feel it. Everything I have previously written is just describing the context, but ultimately the feelings which are being worked through effect many of us. The feeling of isolation and as though no one cares or understands is something, no matter what your explanation we can all relate to.

It is possible to loose sight of "simple truth" that is actually very profound. Growth is painful. And sometimes it is important as the saying goes:


Without accepting the fact that everything changes, we cannot find perfect composure. But unfortunately, although it is true, it is difficult for us to accept it. Because we cannot accept the truth of transience, we suffer. ~Shunryu Suzuki


The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind. ~William Blake

Here for you brother, you’r not to blame, hang in there love to you.

Very profound, rowan22. A wondrous sharing. Hope many read your post.

This forum benefits by folks like you, who explain resistance to change,
ignorance and hardship we all go through, which you seem to understand well.
http://edinburghcreationgroup.org/images/hindu.jpg

[mauviene]

So is this feeling typically called ascension?

I have been having the same feelings...unless it is just the impact that this information has on the ego..and we are still clinging to the ego...in which in that case all mental phenomenon must slowly subside

[lyghtkynge]

So is this feeling typically called ascension?

I have been having the same feelings...unless it is just the impact that this information has on the ego..and we are still clinging to the ego...in which in that case all mental phenomenon must slowly subside
http://www.lila.info/media/scott_cranmer/rebirth.jpg
An ascension is raising to a higher oscillation. Dying is not Freedom, just a return through the doorway of Birth & Death which Are The Same. This is the endless wheel of reincarnation, which one must achieve Emanacipation From Before the Final Ascension can be achieved (crossing to the True Other Side, where Energy is no longer Predatorial). The Second Death is this Ascension Challenge-Test, which life is meant to prepare all for. It is The Process. Those who think they will get a free ride to The Other Side are sadly mistaken, whom we call 'the dead.' Here's a hint at the reality behind this 'reality' (which is illusional delusion):

"In the Black Hole I face the first test in the Void. The darkness was so apparent and engulfing that everything seemed to be consumed by it and yet as I thought this I knew there were even darker, remoter places that I would eventually have to enter. Nothing could describe the immersion into this lifelessness and the return back to life again by my own Will in a fight to remember and reassemble my life. The only way I could withstand the Void was to enter fully focused upon the light. If at any time, I took my attention off this light, I felt that I would have been lost. I could not come out of the Void the same again. Once you enter the entrance is forever sealed. The secret is to re-emerge through the light of your own creation into a new world and life. In this new life, I felt the Master Alchemist engineering this transformation from saturn, squeezing out of the experience an extremely rare form of Solar distillate that was gathered from the focus I used in gathering power to overcome the drain of the tremendous force of anti-life contained in the Black Hole. As I thought this I could feel the presence of Master Q.

"The reason why you hide yourself in a limited, unconscious physical body surrounded by its Dead Zone, making every step of your life a step towards the oblivion of the Void, is because the other realms and dimensions are filled with an inexplicable danger. You arrive there with the promises of beauty, peace and love only to find it all fall away to reveal another all to blatant and insidious reality: the possible destruction of individual existence.

"Here are the realms that conspire to break down and dissolve the lower self not unlike the Void that breaks down and dissolves the entire lifestream energy. Through this you have jsut passed. We will watch you and ask you as well to observe yourself, for you have not fully felt the impact of such circumstances. Many have passed through in good spirits only to suffer greatly later. If at any time your focus upon the light faltered in the Void, even for less than a moment, you will experience a break down of your entire organism. It will seem a slow deterioration.

"Only devastation could result from allowinf the Void to infect your light by an act of lack of presence. If so, it must be caught in time or else you will lose a great amount of personal power and may not have enough resources to be able to reconsolidate this power back angain for lifetimes. If this process is not caught in time there is nothing you or anyone in the Universes upon Universes can do about it. The Void of this Black Hole is not as devastating as some others, but it is back through the process of reincarnation you go until you can once again face and pass this test unharmed. We would wait again for you as we do all those who make their way in and out amoung us regularly. Some pass on to greater tests while others must follow the other route. So if someday you disappear without any awareness, you will know why.

"Those in this Warrior orientation have chosen such circumstances to be tested in, because it is the true Test of Power. No individual lifeform can live cloistered in a little peanut shell of a life with any real satisfaction. To know that it is possible to face the core of dissolution and succeed in overcoming it through your own devices is a transformational experience. It is even more tranformational than standing before the core of the forces that creates and maintains physical substance. Indeed the two experiences are connect."
("Scales of the Dragon," Avendar Dragon, 1999)

"Apart from the emancipated state, the gods can trick you time and time again by reflecting the energy of the lack of realization back at you. You have the feeling of overwhelming love and you generate this intensity in their presence in exchange for the favor of a few moments of inconsequential bliss. This is your own true power subverted right in front of you. It is the way the gods have deluded humnaity all this time and have suffered the same delusion as a result.
. . Bit by bit you will let go of the Dead Zone that allows you to be manipulated by dark forces without the awareness of this fact."
("Scales of the Dragon," Avendar Dragon, 1999)
http://www.lila.info/media/scott_cranmer/thegreatescape.jpg

[relax]

http://www.lila.info/media/scott_cranmer/rebirth.jpg
An ascension is raising to a higher oscillation. Dying is not Freedom, just a return through the doorway of Birth & Death which Are The Same. This is the endless wheel of reincarnation, which one must achieve Emanacipation From Before the Final Ascension can be achieved (crossing to the True Other Side, where Energy is no longer Predatorial). The Second Death is this Ascension Challenge-Test, which life is meant to prepare all for. It is The Process. Those who think they will get a free ride to The Other Side are sadly mistaken, whom we call 'the dead.' Here's a hint at the reality behind this 'reality' (which is illusional delusion):

"In the Black Hole I face the first test in the Void. The darkness was so apparent and engulfing that everything seemed to be consumed by it and yet as I thought this I knew there were even darker, remoter places that I would eventually have to enter. Nothing could describe the immersion into this lifelessness and the return back to life again by my own Will in a fight to remember and reassemble my life. The only way I could withstand the Void was to enter fully focused upon the light. If at any time, I took my attention off this light, I felt that I would have been lost. I could not come out of the Void the same again. Once you enter the entrance is forever sealed. The secret is to re-emerge through the light of your own creation into a new world and life. In this new life, I felt the Master Alchemist engineering this transformation from saturn, squeezing out of the experience an extremely rare form of Solar distillate that was gathered from the focus I used in gathering power to overcome the drain of the tremendous force of anti-life contained in the Black Hole. As I thought this I could feel the presence of Master Q.

"The reason why you hide yourself in a limited, unconscious physical body surrounded by its Dead Zone, making every step of your life a step towards the oblivion of the Void, is because the other realms and dimensions are filled with an inexplicable danger. You arrive there with the promises of beauty, peace and love only to find it all fall away to reveal another all to blatant and insidious reality: the possible destruction of individual existence.

"Here are the realms that conspire to break down and dissolve the lower self not unlike the Void that breaks down and dissolves the entire lifestream energy. Through this you have jsut passed. We will watch you and ask you as well to observe yourself, for you have not fully felt the impact of such circumstances. Many have passed through in good spirits only to suffer greatly later. If at any time your focus upon the light faltered in the Void, even for less than a moment, you will experience a break down of your entire organism. It will seem a slow deterioration.

"Only devastation could result from allowinf the Void to infect your light by an act of lack of presence. If so, it must be caught in time or else you will lose a great amount of personal power and may not have enough resources to be able to reconsolidate this power back angain for lifetimes. If this process is not caught in time there is nothing you or anyone in the Universes upon Universes can do about it. The Void of this Black Hole is not as devastating as some others, but it is back through the process of reincarnation you go until you can once again face and pass this test unharmed. We would wait again for you as we do all those who make their way in and out amoung us regularly. Some pass on to greater tests while others must follow the other route. So if someday you disappear without any awareness, you will know why.

"Those in this Warrior orientation have chosen such circumstances to be tested in, because it is the true Test of Power. No individual lifeform can live cloistered in a little peanut shell of a life with any real satisfaction. To know that it is possible to face the core of dissolution and succeed in overcoming it through your own devices is a transformational experience. It is even more tranformational than standing before the core of the forces that creates and maintains physical substance. Indeed the two experiences are connect."
("Scales of the Dragon," Avendar Dragon, 1999)

"Apart from the emancipated state, the gods can trick you time and time again by reflecting the energy of the lack of realization back at you. You have the feeling of overwhelming love and you generate this intensity in their presence in exchange for the favor of a few moments of inconsequential bliss. This is your own true power subverted right in front of you. It is the way the gods have deluded humnaity all this time and have suffered the same delusion as a result.
. . Bit by bit you will let go of the Dead Zone that allows you to be manipulated by dark forces without the awareness of this fact."
("Scales of the Dragon," Avendar Dragon, 1999)
http://www.lila.info/media/scott_cranmer/thegreatescape.jpg

What is all that?

[shellygurrrl]

Dear shellygurrrl,

yep that's what they are.

And so were Heaven's Gate. That's why they took their lives btw, to return to where they came from.

Suicide is a rough intervention tho, better to look for a different way. Death is probably not even necessary.

It's not a "what if" for me, it's I AM and have known it for my whole life.

It took me 19 years to fully become consciously aware of it, I know it's hard to be. I think many here are going through it. And they are all going to leave much, much sooner than they expect right now, I'm sure :D

Maybe a walk-in will come take my place who knows? :confused::D All I know is I won't be here much longer, atleast not as long as I initially thought I was going to be. And it makes me feel gooood. My spirit decided it's got enough and so be it. If however suicide is eventually necessary (which I don't think it will) then so it shall be. I will not waste my existence and simply wait it all out.



peace

Do you believe you are a Starseed? I remember when I found out about them and read all the traits and signs and it was incredible because I was like, "Hello! This is my life, this is me!" And I have felt that longing to "go home." I can't say I've known I come from someplace else, but it all makes sense if looked at that way. It's hard for me to imagine living to "old age." Who knows, though, I guess. :)

[turquoisefire777]

jezuz H. christ, don't know where i'd be going if i'd bother to lift my ass and "pack up", cuz just the other day i threw one huge fit @ the allsmighty. i mean, i was REALLY pissed!!. i felt so disapointed.

i'm not one to loose my rag but i was really angry that this matrix is still going.
but yes, in a non-killuself way, i'm packing all the time, so to speak...

[infinite tea]

Take a look at the Matrix V thread - some interesting and relevent info there maybe :-) http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1058428359&posted=1#post1058428359

ps I've been feeling the same...interestingly the earth seems to be feeling the same schuman frequency raising to 12Hz now from 7.8Hz a few years ago. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRBulDhYUBk

I got a strong message that at the end of this process only harmony will remain :-)

[danster82]

I can totally relate, im going through the same.

From my understanding I would say your lack of interest in "things" and your self is a necessary step to prepare you for your death.

The death of your ego that is, as if you still had interested and attachments to life how likley are you to let go of it?

So you have to reach that point of complete and utter restriction, you cant move anymore.

And when Jesus was on the cross totally restricted, he had to surrender to the will of God.

[turquoisefire777]

The death of your ego that is, ... how likley are you to let go of it?

yip i agree with that totally.

i think the death of the ego can be quite a crazy experience. but an absolute must, IMO, since the ego is the "evil mind", the "body of death" that plagiarist apostle Paul talks about in the bible book of Romans 7:14-25

[azureangel]

Two pages later and I just have to say that it's not time to leave yet. Xpleet, if you think we are "slaves" and that's all there is to it, I really disagree. And I think you may be buying into that very system of control. People who think, are conscious, we need you! I was trying to let you have your truth but I have to argue. Fuck 'em, hang around and raise hell then! Why would you want a Walk-in to take over for you, maybe they're from the controllers too? There's a saying, "Don't quit 5 minutes before the miracle happens". Hope you'll consider staying around a little longer...love angel

[xpleet]

Dear folks,

I can only see that your lack of understanding and denial of many of you must stem from your own fear through the attachments that you carry.

Please understand that many of you show such a low level of understanding that I am simply forced to ignore.


At the end of the day you'll have to accept that there are some like me for whom the time to move on from "life" and the human form is rapidly approaching.



peace

[anahata]

Dear folks,

I can only see that your lack of understanding and denial of many of you must stem from your own fear through the attachments that you carry.

Please understand that many of you show such a low level of understanding that I am simply forced to ignore.


Still you'll have to accept that there are some like me for whom the time to move on from "life" and the human form is rapidly approaching.



peace


So what? You're just hoping for someone or something to sort you out a transfiguration? Deal with that yourself.

[john white]

I'm not interested in any attempts on explanations, just reply if you feel like THIS and elaborate if you feel like expressing yourself.

Then I for one won't attempt any:)

I have been there though

I look back on it now as "the long dark tea time of the soul" :)

There came a point where I let go of the world and entered a dull floaty place, I stayed cool stayed calm went with the flow and came to find that all I saw "out there" was "in here" and was my choice to create or uncreate

And became that little more free

You'll find you're way

After all, we can hardly do anything else:)

[danster82]

your replys Xpleet are utterly ignorant, no one shows a total lack of understanding because there is nothing to understand.

And they are just your own ego games, because obviously there is something about you which no one understands except you and thus you are special.

You never once attempt to actually explain what people dont understand and if we asked you to you would role your eyes, tut and say its impossible to explain.

[relax]

your replys Xpleet are utterly ignorant, no one shows a total lack of understanding because there is nothing to understand.

And they are just your own ego games, because obviously there is something about you which no one understands except you and thus you are special.

You never once attempt to actually explain what people dont understand and if we asked you to you would role your eyes, tut and say its impossible to explain.

Yep, really surprised at the ego you've shown in the last few posts xpleet.

[rowan22]

Yep, really surprised at the ego you've shown in the last few posts xpleet.

It's just a direct consequence of not accepting our own vulnerability and fallibility that we begin to think ourselves "above" the bulk of humanity. It is a force of nature just like gravity, that unless we own our own faults, we succumb to the most simple of obstacles to our progress our own ego. And we look down on those around us whilst protesting our lofty credentials, and esoteric knowledge. We've all done it, I know I used to be stuck so far up my own exhaust I couldn’t see anything but you know what! Still am at times! We can all learn a bit more about our own ego imo?

As the Lao Tzu said "The bigness found in being small"

Part of the "death" is the death of this illusion of power. And the liberation into real progress it signals imo.

Let go the ties that bind, doesn't mean stop caring, it means stop caring about having control because you don’t, unless you do let go.

[stanislav]

Dear folks,

I can only see that your lack of understanding and denial of many of you must stem from your own fear through the attachments that you carry.

Please understand that many of you show such a low level of understanding that I am simply forced to ignore.


At the end of the day you'll have to accept that there are some like me for whom the time to move on from "life" and the human form is rapidly approaching.



peace

You are so amazing! I am thankful once again to find someone like yourself on this message board. Who would of thought! It is only recently that I have begun spending more time here. Your perception is profound. I know nothing of what you speak but I understand everything that which you want to convey. I think those who are being insulted by you are those who either have no real understanding or are at envy of what you are due to their own ignorance. Also to be even more precise 'they have never meant to be like you'. You are today because you have always had the gift. They will try to interpreted it to be an ego talk, they will try to reason it and even attach insanity to it. All in order to shut you up. They want you to stay in line, they want you to follow their herd. They want you to believe that you are not better than them. But YOU ARE in all glory.

[xpleet]

You are so amazing! I am thankful once again to find someone like yourself on this message board. Who would of thought! It is only recently that I have begun spending more time here. Your perception is profound. I know nothing of what you speak but I understand everything that which you want to convey. I think those who are being insulted by you are those who either have no real understanding or are at envy of what you are due to their own ignorance. Also to be even more precise 'they have never meant to be like you'. You are today because you have always had the gift. They will try to interpreted it to be an ego talk, they will try to reason it and even attach insanity to it. All in order to shut you up. They want you to stay in line, they want you to follow their herd. They want you to believe that you are not better than them. But YOU ARE in all glory.

Dear stanislav,

don't you just hate it when your reply ends at the bottom of a page? Might get a lot less views :p



I'll have to thank you.



peace

[jp13]

I suppose visiting a doctor would be out of the question, or not.
It may be interesting to see/hear how someone else see's you, it's difficult on the forum to see you as you really are, words get in the way.
The only time I have felt similar to what you describe, and I did see a Doctor, he said I had Clinical Depression, I totally denied it, he told me he more or less diagnosed me from my body posture, and lack of interest in anything.
Pills didn't help, once I accepted it as being partly true, I started to feel a bit 'better'.

[stanislav]

Dear stanislav,

don't you just hate it when your reply ends at the bottom of a page? Might get a lot less views :p



I'll have to thank you.



peace

As long as you read it it's all that matters to me.

:)

[stanislav]

I suppose visiting a doctor would be out of the question, or not.
It may be interesting to see/hear how someone else see's you, it's difficult on the forum to see you as you really are, words get in the way.
The only time I have felt similar to what you describe, and I did see a Doctor, he said I had Clinical Depression, I totally denied it, he told me he more or less diagnosed me from my body posture, and lack of interest in anything.
Pills didn't help, once I accepted it as being partly true, I started to feel a bit 'better'.

"Clinical Depression" because deep down you know it's the "end". Fool he/she who foolishly celebrates amids their own desolation. I see many happy fools all around me. They foolishly believe life as they know it will continue the way they want it to be. 'If I only smile and think positive I will succeed they chant in their minds'. Ignorance out of fear is one of their traits. A child is always ready to hide under the covers as if that will save it from the ruthless monster. Ignoring the monster out of fear isn't going to change the outcome. In fact it will diminish your chance to ever have any freedom at all.

[jp13]

"Clinical Depression" because deep down you know it's the "end". Fool he/she who foolishly celebrates amids their own desolation. I see many happy fools all around me. They foolishly believe life as they know it will continue the way they want it to be. 'If I only smile and think positive I will succeed they chant in their minds'. Ignorance out of fear is one of their traits. A child is always ready to hide under the covers as if that will save it from the ruthless monster. Ignoring the monster out of fear isn't going to change the outcome. In fact it will diminish your chance to ever have any freedom at all.

What are you on about?
Happy fools, how do you know if they're happy, or what they're thinking about?
"Deep Down you know it's the End" Din Da DIn.
The end of what?

[stanislav]

What are you on about?
Happy fools, how do you know if they're happy, or what they're thinking about?
"Deep Down you know it's the End" Din Da DIn.
The end of what?

It seems that I have struck a cord in you. I wonder why so many people feel offended and become DEMANDING. As if knowledge must be given to them on a golden platter or else they might call you a sham. l

[jp13]

It seems that I have struck a cord in you. I wonder why so many people feel offended and become DEMANDING. As if knowledge must be given to them on a golden platter or else they might call you a sham. l
I still don't know what you are talking about, and I would definitely say that you have not struck a chord with me.
I wasn't DEMANDING anything, I just asked you to explain what you mean, but don't bother.

[stanislav]

i still don't know what you are talking about, and i would definitely say that you have not struck a chord with me.
I wasn't demanding anything, i just asked you to explain what you mean, but don't bother.

lol :)

[firstlook]

At the end of the day you'll have to accept that there are some like me for whom the time to move on from "life" and the human form is rapidly approaching.

Have you met others like this? How do they tell you to prepare yourself? Im guessing there are different ways to come about this change?

Thanks.

[tannah]

Dear friends,

I am (trying to be) an honest person looking for honest answers from people who can somehow relate to the things I write.

My mind is trying to make sense of something, a phenomenon that is happening to me and has been now for a couple of weeks. In fact it's been like a signal, a call from the beyond, that I have noticed now and then for the last 2 years and my mind could never make any sense of it.

Now the time is drawing closer and I feel myself at en edge.
Recently I began losing all interests in going on with things in life.
I've been feeling like a suicidal but with no feelings of depression or despair whatsoever. In fact it feels like I am going exactly where I am supposed to go. The impulse responsible for all this, I am very sure - it comes right from my higher self and now my mind has to align to this. I have figured that it is impossible to be a psychological issue of any sort.
All my ties to this world are lifting and I feel like I want to move on.
- no more interests in saving the world, tasty foods, women, family, entertainment, all that which would make life seem worth living - is of no more value. I don't even fear leaving friends and loved ones behind.
It feels like I have entered a harsh transitional process, something I can not reverse or fight. Sometimes I get frustrated because part of me is already so out of this world while the other half has one foot in this world, still. This causes some serious agitation which becomes quite painful at times. This is probably the cause for the 'suicidal' feeling, hoping for a way to make this transition quicker.
My brain is still in auto-pilot which keeps daily activities going but that's really all. There is no motivation whatsoever in any worldly acitivites for me anymore.

If I didn't know better, I would use the common word "ascension", however I don't feel like this is fitting at all. I would much prefer something like "soul bailout".

I am certainly not writing this to freak you out, and if what I write here doesn't resonate with you at all, then I suggest you discard it immediatly and don't let it have any effect on your life!


All I want to know is whether there are ones amongst you who are really going through the same thing as I.


I'm not interested in any attempts on explanations, just reply if you feel like THIS and elaborate if you feel like expressing yourself.



peace

Yes xpleet, I've had the desire to move on and go home since 1983 mate.
Various inner questions, dreams and answers have kept me here. If you are in your last life on this wheel, then I can say you will find (or have found) the keys to unlock the door and walk into your next plain of being. That's what a Hindu woman told me back in '86. I didn't take her seriously until a few dreams later.

There is no death, so what you're looking for is a higher expression of Self.
Good for you, and I already know it has been reserved for you. Higher spirit plains make every debt here a worthwhile experience, now that I know what it means.:)

[coco]

I think that it MIGHT be some sort of transition that you are going through, where you lose fear, and because it is all new to you, it feels strange. You no longer have any interests in the physical realm (ie maybe you no longer fear not having these physical things, and you are comparing this to being like in a suicidal state, where you no longer worry about having the possessions, or having friends, relationships, money etc). I reckon that it POSSIBILY could be PART of a transitional/ascention process, but our upbringing/conditioning is making your ego put a label on this process (the ego likes to put a NEGATIVE label on everything - And when I say "negative", I would say that anything that is maybe ego based is negative to your well being). Just go with the flow, and enjoy it.

I think that you will begin to enjoy your physical life again soon, but you probably FIRST have to go through the experiences that you are NOW going through.

That's my thoughts on it :D

Steevo worded it more clearly than I was preparing to.

I am fond of your mind, Xpleet. Do not tarry yourself to the point of exhaustion. Try to consider the above quote.

Blessings to you.

[curtaincat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMwn_hnoS5Y
http://www.johnpitre.com/_assets/images/gallery/ascension.jpg

picture is lovely, the song is even better, have always loved the song but have not seen this clip before. love the way he got on the bicycle and went around the circle stage.

And the message of the song , to me, to my reckoning.... should speak to everyone... brilliant !!!!

ty , for this. I Love It :cool:

[live_free]

Suicide does not change anything, period: it only remove the Self's Will (for most).

I'm sure that is exactly what 19th-century slavemasters (http://www.wealthandwant.com/docs/ajo_slavery.html) wanted their chattels to blindly assume, lest the latter resolve to go out on their own terms rather than those of their parasitic "owners."

Hence the slavemasters' fondness for Christianity:

"Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ." -- Ephesians 6:5 (NIV)
In that regard, much of what passes for "spirituality" these days seems to be merely another glorified way of conning people into sheepishly putting up with things they would otherwise never put up with.

http://theviewfromhell.blogspot.com

[entrangermercenary]

your replys Xpleet are utterly ignorant, no one shows a total lack of understanding because there is nothing to understand.

And they are just your own ego games, because obviously there is something about you which no one understands except you and thus you are special.

You never once attempt to actually explain what people dont understand and if we asked you to you would role your eyes, tut and say its impossible to explain.

Lol never heard that before :D

[angelmoon]

Do you feel as though you are waiting for something?

Is it as though your soul is in limbo and you feel disconnected to physical reality?

this sums up how i feel and have felt for the past 6mths ,i have even expressed this in the same words to family and friends ,and know of quite a few others i chat to that feel the same ,

the feeling of waiting can be overwhelming at times ,frustrating, and yet other times there is an acceptence of the waiting and the knowing that it will eventually have to change which can be a comfort and a fear at the same time

Love to you all x x

[toseeitclearly]

The problems on this planet is something that needs to be addressed to.

I have seen people having a higher awareness on the state of this planet it is like a blessing to see this in people that otherwise before wouldn't want to hear it, the problems on our earth is what is threatening our "evolution" and existence as a race and everything living on mother earth we need to break the shackles if we ever wan't to go anywhere otherwise your simply leaving things behind undone.

Yes i have had symptons of apathy and no care for any of the physical material things but don't try to fight it let this be and you will be on the right track and allows others to see for themselves other than just straight out talking about and only do it when the time is right, you will know when the time is right because you will sense it and then you can express your feelings for others for what is happening here and they will relate to what you are saying its like they don't even need to research they already know what is going on, so there is some kind of consciousness shift happening on this planet i can't say what is causing it exactly i can only feel the great positivity from it.

If you have no feelings for material things or the world then its fine let that be without it troubling you and a feeling of great empathy for the world and all people in it will come out within you, and it seems to affect people around you too its quite interesting.