I am happy to be a freeloading waster, are you?

[steppewar]

I have completely dropped out of society. Here are some of my achievements.

1) I've been on the dole since 1990 and I am proud of it.

2) I sleep 11 hours a day and get up in the afternoon.

3) I spend nearly all my waking hours browsing the internet and watching TV.

4) I occasionally go to a brothel and shag a whore.

5) I brew and sup very cheap home brew wine.

6) I believe my lifestyle is near perfect and would only be better if I was a multi-millionaire.

[ignoranto_bliss]

But now you are only multi-fuckitaller :D

[tesla]

Respect.

If your happy mate, thats all that matters

[dmt head]

I wouldnt mind a wee holiday on the bru but I cant afford it and get bored pretty quickly, was unemployed for a long time when I was younger, great during mushy season lol

I need money for things like herbs and music production equipment and of course bills, I couldnt afford those things if I was on the dole.

Also I doubt my g/f would have went with me if I was a total bum.

Thats probably why you have to go to smelly whores, fuck that for a game of soldiers. It really turns me on to turn my woman on and your not going to get that with smelly whores, do they have to use lube to get wet for you and shit yes?

Im at work just now mixing my time between browsing forums watching tv, well the guy I look after watches that, and messing about with some drum samples, so you can get jobs that suit the lazy, like mines lol

Your lifestyle isnt perfect, it sounds very boring and empty, do you have a social life at all? To each their own etc. but not for me, I want the freedom to enjoy life and that unfortunately does include having to get some money, at this point for me anyways.

[haukipesukone]

I think you should get out much, Steppewar. Otherwise sounds pretty neat.

[sorath]

I'd love to know how you think you have dropped out of society! You rely on society to live. Hardly dropping out when the money you use to exist comes from the government via the tax payer.

[the white knight]

Good luck to you steppewar but with all the new benefit rule changers coming along you may not be living like that much longer. :)

[Ian2day]

I think that you know KH.

[steevo]

I have completely dropped out of society. Here are some of my achievements.

1) I've been on the dole since 1990 and I am proud of it.

2) I sleep 11 hours a day and get up in the afternoon.

3) I spend nearly all my waking hours browsing the internet and watching TV.

4) I occasionally go to a brothel and shag a whore.

5) I brew and sup very cheap home brew wine.

6) I believe my lifestyle is near perfect and would only be better if I was a multi-millionaire.

:rolleyes::cool:

[merlincove]

Stop with the trying to wind us tax paying, hard working, benefit shy members up will you steepe :p

Oh, i forgot, i don't pay taxes....... :D

Fuck it then dude, enjoy your lazy gotten gains :D

Do what thoust will :D

[mark1963]

Please go on the Freeman thread people to learn where money really comes from. Taxes do not pay for benefits.

[merlincove]

^^^

:d

[johntitor]

I have completely dropped out of society. Here are some of my achievements.

1) I've been on the dole since 1990 and I am proud of it.

2) I sleep 11 hours a day and get up in the afternoon.

3) I spend nearly all my waking hours browsing the internet and watching TV.

4) I occasionally go to a brothel and shag a whore.

5) I brew and sup very cheap home brew wine.

6) I believe my lifestyle is near perfect and would only be better if I was a multi-millionaire.

Simply Put very sad by mosts exsistence ! If you love it go for it...

See you looking down one day..

Still grounded on earth... lol your self motivated and weak minded...

Can't you go cut the old lady next doors grass, its looking rather long and shabby mate from what i can see !

[djhooker]

as an employee of the benefits system, i'm just waiting for voluntary redundancy to come my way and i'll be joining ya!

[les_paul_robot]

Having to work to 'earn' a living is an abomination anyway. Wakey wakey!!!

[lookfar]

As already pointed out, you haven't "dropped out of society" stepp as you rely on society to keep you via taxpayers money.

I'm not knocking what you're doing at all, to each their own & all that & I wish you all the best (although it does sound like a lonely existence to me). Personally I much prefer to be in a position to afford to do the things I want to do/travel places & see my friends etc, which atm involves me having to work. Hopefully one day I'll be in a position where I can give up work & enjoy more free time, however I very much doubt that I'd be entitled to benefits, so grab them while you can I say!

[loki]

ahh yes that sounds like the life ... i did that when i was younger and it was one of the most fun and relaxing times of my life ... if your happy to live without the expensive clothes and things like that its a very good life

i don't have the ability to get lonely and neither do alot of people i could spend days, months, years just by myself

being in a relationship is just like the world you live in today ... you always have to do stuff you don't wanna do and have to listen to the other persons problems all day at great length whether you want to or not ... not my cup of tea ... im in a relationship now with a girl who is into all the stuff im into now which is good for me ... but i could never go back to what people would call a "normal" girl ever ... never ever ever ever


good job mate keep it up

[les_paul_robot]

As already pointed out, you haven't "dropped out of society" stepp as you rely on society to keep you via taxpayers money.No no no, that's a myth

[baxter]

You rely on the state for your survival. Hardly dropping out of society

[equinox]

Hi All,

I am on benefits, have been for a year now, so where does the benefit money come from if not from tax payers? I know that we have fiat currency that is not real.
Thanks

[firepoet]

:D:D

[fork]

The internet and home brew sound okay but TV and whores naaaa. Good luck though and have a glass of chouteau steppewar 2009 for me. :)

[lookfar]

No no no, that's a myth

Ok, but where does it come from then?

[loki]

You rely on the state for your survival. Hardly dropping out of society

you guys are pretty retarded im quite sure he meant he was dropping out of society .. ie he wasn't going with the flow of society

maybe its just me but that seemed pretty clear

[21_12_2012]

Ok, but where does it come from then?

Apparently (I may not be using the correct terminology here, but i will try)....
When you are born, and your birth is registered, and your birth certificate is created, you are then a 'possession of the United Kingdom/United States of America'..wherever you live).

The government is then allowed to use the fact that they 'own you', and then 'float bonds on you'...which accrues money, which you are actually entitled to, but not many people are aware of this fact.
Any benefits that a person claims come from this 'accrual of money'.

The money is rightfully yours, and accrues throughout the duration of your life.

(I've probably worded some of that wrongly but Im sure someone can correct me)

[alrick888]

Am enjoying my time on the dole while it lasts, as starting next year I will be up for forced labor! :eek: or be given "a subsidized working place" as is the pc name. So you stay on the dole but have to menial work 40 hours a week.

Am not looking forward to that at all. Maybe I should post this on the freeman forum as someone may know a legal way to get out of it.

[baxter]

you guys are pretty retarded im quite sure he meant he was dropping out of society .. ie he wasn't going with the flow of society

maybe its just me but that seemed pretty clear

Not depending on society and being self dependent and taking full responsibility of one's life (aka freeman route) is more like it to be honest. Call me retarded :rolleyes:

Resisting society by not working whilst on the other hand relying on state hand outs to survive is paradoxical.

[steevo]

I have completely dropped out of society. Here are some of my achievements.

1) I've been on the dole since 1990 and I am proud of it.

2) I sleep 11 hours a day and get up in the afternoon.

3) I spend nearly all my waking hours browsing the internet and watching TV.

4) I occasionally go to a brothel and shag a whore.

5) I brew and sup very cheap home brew wine.

6) I believe my lifestyle is near perfect and would only be better if I was a multi-millionaire.

Right ok.

And you started this thread for what reason exactly ?

[loki]

Not depending on society and being self dependent and taking full responsibility of one's life (aka freeman route) is more like it to be honest. Call me retarded :rolleyes:

Resisting society by not working whilst on the other hand relying on state hand outs to survive is paradoxical.

i meant retarded in a whimsical way and wasn't directing it directly at urself .. you just who i quoted soz :)

[les_paul_robot]

Am enjoying my time on the dole while it lasts, as starting next year I will be up for forced labor! :eek: or be given "a subsidized working place" as is the pc name. So you stay on the dole but have to menial work 40 hours a week.

Am not looking forward to that at all. Maybe I should post this on the freeman forum as someone may know a legal way to get out of it.Where in the world does this happen?? :eek:
How long are you on the dole before this is forced on you???

[alrick888]

Where in the world does this happen?? :eek:
How long are you on the dole before this is forced on you???

The Netherlands
The so-called "bastion of freethinking" and "tolerance". :rolleyes:

The legal basis for this is that you have the duty to accept "generally accepted work" or else you lose part or all of your benefits. There is a difference in how this is being applied across different towns. In my town you get 6 months of benefits where you have to look for "fitting work", then if you don't find that after that time you have to accept a subsidized job or lose your benefits. In other towns you have to accept subsidized work from the get-go, usually in a specially created work factory where you either have to pack stuff in boxes or do other simple jobs.

[ronisron]

Big business pays for social programs in Canada, mostly utility companies. Taxes is just a way of keeping people wage slaves essentially, it goes right back into the system you work for. We pay income tax, tax for gas, cigarettes and alcohol are a big tax generator, every time you certain items you pay tax.... I don't have an automobile, and don't drink or smoke, but I pay an income tax of course, and sales taxes.

As for the OP, drinking home brew and paying for sex aren't everyone's cup of tea :rolleyes: :D, but to each his own. I agree with some of your post, but IMO, most of it seems a bit depressing.

[tesla]

Please go on the Freeman thread people to learn where money really comes from. Taxes do not pay for benefits.


Link please.?

[mystic nomad]

Link please.?


:rolleyes: FFS. :confused:


For those worried about their so called tax money going into paying benefits, how about looking at the rich boys and girls who rip us day in day out and don't pay a penny tax in this country!!

[vetis]

I have completely dropped out of society. Here are some of my achievements.

1) I've been on the dole since 1990 and I am proud of it.

those two statements do not go together..you havent dropped out of society if you are taking from it. in no way can you be seen as out of society if you take the dole..you are dependent on society more than i am working.

oh and to me, your life seems completely pointless aand void of any reason. you are sleeping half your life away (11 hours?) and just wasting time till you die. well done.

[jojo]

I have completely dropped out of society. Here are some of my achievements.

1) I've been on the dole since 1990 and I am proud of it.

2) I sleep 11 hours a day and get up in the afternoon.

3) I spend nearly all my waking hours browsing the internet and watching TV.

4) I occasionally go to a brothel and shag a whore.

5) I brew and sup very cheap home brew wine.

6) I believe my lifestyle is near perfect and would only be better if I was a multi-millionaire.
:D step is back! lol, ive missed your threads of this ilk!

[size_of_light]

I have completely dropped out of society. Here are some of my achievements.

1) I've been on the dole since 1990 and I am proud of it.

those two statements do not go together..you havent dropped out of society if you are taking from it. in no way can you be seen as out of society if you take the dole..you are dependent on society more than i am working.

oh and to me, your life seems completely pointless aand void of any reason. you are sleeping half your life away (11 hours?) and just wasting time till you die. well done.

How is taking money from a corrupt system in exchange for nothing being dependant on it?

Why is 11 hours sleep wasting time?

Would he not be wasting time if he instead spent three of those hours working and feeding a corrupt system?

[1964]

Your post reminded me of a particular warning in Scripture. Whatever you can find to do, do it with all your might. Because in death, there will be nothing for you to do ever again. Fully conscious, and now fully awake, there will be nothing for you to do for all eternity except think about the way you spent your life - while doing more of the same thing you did in this life, which is nothing.

Edit: My response was to the OP.

[jojo]

How is taking money from a corrupt system in exchange for nothing being dependant on it?

Why is 11 hours sleep wasting time?

Would he not be wasting time if he instead spent three of those hours working and feeding a corrupt system?

wot SOL, no mod? again? :D:D

[size_of_light]

Fully conscious, and now fully awake, there will be nothing for you to do for all eternity except think about the way you spent your life - while doing more of the same thing you did in this life, which is nothing.

So if you work hard all your life, you'll spend the rest of eternity thinking about how hard you worked, while working just as hard forever?

[size_of_light]

wot SOL, no mod? again? :D:D

I keep pissing in that punchbowl at the company picnic.

Can't help meself. :p

[Ian2day]

We live in a collection of dependant systems flowing from one to the other. The planet is in harmony, no matter what you do, it will shrug you off like a bad case of the fleas. It is the ultimate recycling plant.

[1964]

How is taking money from a corrupt system in exchange for nothing being dependant on it?

Why is 11 hours sleep wasting time?

Would he not be wasting time if he instead spent three of those hours working and feeding a corrupt system?

It's obvious from the OP that he justifies his dependence on a system he hates by telling himself the system is corrupt, so it doesn't matter anyways. Doesn't change the fact that he still relies on a system he says he hates to provide for his needs.

How does he feed the system by depending on it? The person who works to earn what they have has no moral debt left to pay. So the OP is not only a financial slave to the system, but he has now incurred a moral debt, which is a spiritual debt, to the same system he hates. Doesn't matter if the system is corrupt. Even when two thieves steal from each other, they are still two thieves.

[firstlook]

I steal from the rich and give to the poor. Havent been caught yet, and it pretty much satisfies my need to interact with the world. As far as doles, which im guessing is like welfare(?), I would never take it. It justs seems like another way for the system to control you. But I like where your head is at Stepp. Take some of that time to open your mind and play with ideas about how to deal with society and control. Then all those hours your free from control will turn into paradise.:)

peace

[petercookie]

I am happy to be a freeloading waster, are you?

Yep :)

The system has fucked me over for about 15years (educational system)....... So its time to fuck the system over.... :D

Theres no "moral" issue with this too, Because i am not going to feel like i am a worthless piece of shit for not doing anything........ I am not being a slave to someone else/some corporation......

And another thing........ when you are doing "nothing", that gives you time to study and research whats really going on in the world and learn what YOU want to learn.... and that can be dangerous..... if you have to much time to think about your life and society, you might come to the true conclusion...... which is...... that "they" only want you to exist, so you can be exploited..... NOT to live your life as individually as YOU wish....

[passing]

"I am happy to be a freeloading waster, are you?"

I was, but they got sick of me. :rolleyes:
Actually I wasn't a waster, just a freeloader.
How can a person manage to stay on the dole for so long without a reason like 'incapacity' or alcoholism etc?

[size_of_light]

It's obvious from the OP that he justifies his dependence on a system he hates by telling himself the system is corrupt, so it doesn't matter anyways.

The system is corrupt, so if he's doing that, he's telling himself the truth.

Doesn't change the fact that he still relies on a system he says he hates to provide for his needs.

Or he's eroding a system he hates by taking from it what he needs to survive.


How does he feed the system by depending on it? The person who works to earn what they have has no moral debt left to pay.

I'd argue that he's not feeding the system by depending on it...he's starving it by feeding from it.

So the OP is not only a financial slave to the system, but he has now incurred a moral debt, which is a spiritual debt, to the same system he hates. Doesn't matter if the system is corrupt. Even when two thieves steal from each other, they are still two thieves.

How has he incurred a moral debt?

The 'two thieves stealing from each other' analogy doesn't work.

If you decide not to join the organisation of a master thief, but choose instead to stealthily pick from his ill-gotten gains, isn't that better than actively signing up and joining the gang that's committing all the crimes?

[limelady]

wot SOL, no mod? again? :D:D

I keep pissing in that punchbowl at the company picnic.

Can't help meself. :p

Yes, then he becomes the 'turd in the punchbowl' so we have to fish him out! :eek:

But he is only an 'on call' mod, so we deal with it as best we can. :D

Now back on topic.....happy freeloading wasters etc.....take it away again!

[zero1]

I have guilt about being on the dole. I'd rather be a productive person, but I find nothing work-wise makes me happy. It's difficult. :(

[hollo]

love this thread :)

here are my achievements....

since i was "relieved" from a job in may (and believe me ive tried getting another)

1) i enjoy late nights and lay ins - to watch the world stress by as you do what you please :)

2) yeh the internet helps too - i play wow and natural selection :p

3) bike rides on the mountains / many trails where i live feeds the soul :)

4) despite being on the dole ive managed to keep my car! so anything
spontaneous is always good!

5) i just enjoy living life at a slower calmer pace than the 9-5 strict rules
stress head i once was!

6) i grow fruit and veg on my windowsil getting ready for next years harvest
starting in feb :D

when you are born nothing belongs to you. which is so retarded as everyone
is equal and born onto the same earth yet they force shit rules on you (such as cant build a house without thier permission / cant grow mass crops / cant have land or anything without paying tax to them)

the reason ppl are forced to work is for food and to get a house using thier rules which are shit anyway!! im happy where i am now

[polveirbecker]

I have completely dropped out of society. Here are some of my achievements.

1) I've been on the dole since 1990 and I am proud of it.

Oh doesn’t Steppewar make you proud to be British :rolleyes:

First off this thread is a carbon copy of a few of Steppewar’s past threads and those as observant as myself on these forums will see that. Secondly you’ve contradicted yourself here mate because been on the dole means that you still have some interaction with society as we all hate it whatever the type of claimant. I’ve been on three different types so far and all three have involved interaction with society.

If anything you are at the top and bottom of society. Socially you just beat the homeless on the street when it comes to getting looked down on. I myself is on Job Seekers Allowance and I have someone now and again attempting to drill it into me that I need to do this and that with my life. That so called mate of mine was a typical case of someone looking down at me because I don’t have a job. He works in a pub, on a Mickey mouse course in university and has a couple of quid invested in stuff.

But your also at the top of society because you get to do what you want to do. One thing a lot of people don’t get in this world is that everyone is different. I’m getting up on afternoons and I personally hate it but it doesn’t mean that everyone else will have the same mindset as myself on things. But now I’ve come to realise that I’ve just got to make the most out of life.

Recently I looked at things that stress me out the most and that is money and debt. I’ve lived for three weeks without my job seekers and I’ve survived which is the main thing. I’m currently looking to become self employed so I can be my own boss and do my own things that I love to do - write, dance, comedy and rapping. I’ll be releasing an album out next week and here is the song I’ve decided to release as a promotional -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtEwnbVXXe8

However you might be more interested with my rap about been on the dole -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRCk7u3l0NA

But I have talent they and hopefully it’ll lead me to a better lifestyle that is better than my current one. I’m not in it for the money because like I said I can’t stand money but if I earn anything it’ll be a bonus. Hopefully my talents in the future will be bartered for shelter and food so I can go travelling!

2) I sleep 11 hours a day and get up in the afternoon.

I’ll be setting up my alarm clock next week just so I can get up early in the morning although it is against my beliefs that I should live by my body clock. Maybe in the future I’ll look to living via my body clock again but for now I need to sort myself out and I’m not going to do if by giving in to the overwhelming pressure that I get from society by getting up in the afternoon everyday!

3) I spend nearly all my waking hours browsing the internet and watching TV.

So do I!

But after I’ve done this I’ll be taking my internet connection down and concentrating on a novel that I’m doing. TV and the internet as we all know is nothing but a big distraction to stop us from interacting and been creative in life. However if this is what you love to do then I’m happy for you.

After all the world would be so boring if we was all the same.

4) I occasionally go to a brothel and shag a whore.

I though you’ve given up this pastime?

Make your bloody mind up whenever you want to go or not!

5) I brew and sup very cheap home brew wine.

That’s a good idea.

Why not turn your home brew into an enterprise because I’m sure a few of us would buy on here just so we can tell our friends that we’re drinking from the brew made by the laziest guy in Britain. We’d able to tell them all your stories and battles with the EU over mercury lighting!

6) I believe my lifestyle is near perfect and would only be better if I was a multi-millionaire.

More money = more problems.

You just get taxed to death or you’ll end up living a even more lonely existence on the Cayman Island. I have met people from this place and they’d rather be in Leeds!

[1964]

The system is corrupt, so if he's doing that, he's telling himself the truth.



Or he's eroding a system he hates by taking from it what he needs to survive.



I'd argue that he's not feeding the system by depending on it...he's starving it by feeding from it.



How has he incurred a moral debt?

The 'two thieves stealing from each other' analogy doesn't work.

If you decide not to join the organisation of a master thief, but choose instead to stealthily pick from his ill-gotten gains, isn't that better than actively signing up and joining the gang that's committing all the crimes?

Yes, absolutely, the system is corrupt. I agree with you. And the OP uses that as an excuse for what he does. Doesn't matter how you want to look at it - when we take something without earning it, it's called stealing.

He's not eroding the system by stealing from it. He's only causing the honest, hard-working people to have to work even harder. What's he going to be left with in the end? The system he feeds off of couldn't care less about him. And the hard-working people he uses will be working for themselves, and their families. When the truly hard times come, he'll have nothing. Which is how it should be: Since he's worked for nothing, he's earned nothing, and he'll receive nothing.

Laziness is a very real thing. Once it gets ahold of someone, it's hard for the person to break free. But by the sounds of the OP, he's not even trying to break free. He's fully embraced his own laziness. What he doesn't realize is that he's only destroying himself. Every man reaps what he sows.

[measle_weasel]

I have completely dropped out of society. Here are some of my achievements.

1) I've been on the dole since 1990 and I am proud of it.

2) I sleep 11 hours a day and get up in the afternoon.

3) I spend nearly all my waking hours browsing the internet and watching TV.

4) I occasionally go to a brothel and shag a whore.

5) I brew and sup very cheap home brew wine.

6) I believe my lifestyle is near perfect and would only be better if I was a multi-millionaire.

You havnt dropped out of society, youve become its dependant, more so than others.

People who go build a cabin out in the woods, can acquire their own food, water, etc, and have minimal contact with others have "dropped out" of society. Those who still remain close to society, yet are not reliant on it to survive, have simply become independant from society.

Are you really happy, or are you just comfortable?

[passing]

I have guilt about being on the dole. I'd rather be a productive person, but I find nothing work-wise makes me happy. It's difficult. :(

It can give you time to decide what to do, in order to stop feeling unproductive.

I learned a lot from being on the dole for a long-ish time (and it was a long-ish time ago), not only about people's attitudes ('freeloading waster' being quite illustrative) but also about my own mental states like you mention.

Guilt, or at least the tinges of it which I felt, was an inversion of the prejudice I had been 'programmed with', just like the people who would call or think me a freeloading waster. It was the same negativity manifesting in me towards myself... but I got rid of it, I think the best tactic for that was to make efforts to be cheerful (not a natural thing for me then).

Having said that, guilt wasn't a big thing because I had had my life shat on by the benefits system (a long story) before things levelled out a bit so my main emotion was anger. Again, in order to stay sane I had to combat that by making efforts to be cheerful and enjoy what I could. That's when I discovered the pleasures of taking off my shirt (in summer) and sitting in the park! A big change from some goth-ish kid who would always be hidden under three layers.

I nearly lost it when bills and late benefit cheques and similar threats conspired against me. But one day I had it in a flash - they can't really touch me. I realised how much I'd been living in fear and latent shame, and I cast it off. It was brilliant, I still get a positive kick when I think about it.

But maybe the most powerful idea of all was what I picked up somewhere in Gurdjieff, or Ouspensky (same thing) or maybe some Zen book - ruthlessly cut from your life things that waste your time and energy.
You know, all of this can apply to getting through the working day too!

:D

[size_of_light]

Yes, then he becomes the 'turd in the punchbowl' so we have to fish him out! :eek:

...followed by some hot make-up sex with Alex Jones!!!! :) :D

But yeah, back on topic....

Fuck all you dole bludgers!!!!!!

You're only hurting us hard-working honest people who shuffle off into the meatgrinder every morning so we can get spat out to scurry around buying our Ipods and our Jet Skis on the weekends!!!

You lazy, immoral fuckers!!!

[jojo]

I keep pissing in that punchbowl at the company picnic.

Can't help meself. :p

:D lol, ;)




you knows it!

[jojo]

...followed by some hot make-up sex with Alex Jones!!!! :) :D

But yeah, back on topic....

Fuck all you dole bludgers!!!!!!

You're only hurting us hard-working honest people who shuffle off into the meatgrinder every morning so we can get spat out to scurry around buying our Ipods and our Jet Skis on the weekends!!!

You lazy, immoral fuckers!!!

i prefer you when you not a mod, one has to speak ones mind, doesnt one :D



chin chin! ;)

[1964]

...followed by some hot make-up sex with Alex Jones!!!! :) :D

But yeah, back on topic....

Fuck all you dole bludgers!!!!!!

You're only hurting us hard-working honest people who shuffle off into the meatgrinder every morning so we can get spat out to scurry around buying our Ipods and our Jet Skis on the weekends!!!

You lazy, immoral fuckers!!!

So not only should a hard-working person have to work to pay for your way through life, but they're not also not allowed to spend their own money however they choose. And you actually believe that with your mentality, you're going to go up against the ptb and the nwo, and win. Ok, then, nothing more I can say.

[amethyst]

...followed by some hot make-up sex with Alex Jones!!!! :) :D

But yeah, back on topic....

Fuck all you dole bludgers!!!!!!

You're only hurting us hard-working honest people who shuffle off into the meatgrinder every morning so we can get spat out to scurry around buying our Ipods and our Jet Skis on the weekends!!!

You lazy, immoral fuckers!!!

You have a point there....

The phrase "conspicuous consumption" comes to mind.....

[zero1]

It can give you time to decide what to do, in order to stop feeling unproductive.

I learned a lot from being on the dole for a long-ish time (and it was a long-ish time ago), not only about people's attitudes ('freeloading waster' being quite illustrative) but also about my own mental states like you mention.

Guilt, or at least the tinges of it which I felt, was an inversion of the prejudice I had been 'programmed with', just like the people who would call or think me a freeloading waster. It was the same negativity manifesting in me towards myself... but I got rid of it, I think the best tactic for that was to make efforts to be cheerful (not a natural thing for me then).

Having said that, guilt wasn't a big thing because I had had my life shat on by the benefits system (a long story) before things levelled out a bit so my main emotion was anger. Again, in order to stay sane I had to combat that by making efforts to be cheerful and enjoy what I could. That's when I discovered the pleasures of taking off my shirt (in summer) and sitting in the park! A big change from some goth-ish kid who would always be hidden under three layers.

I nearly lost it when bills and late benefit cheques and similar threats conspired against me. But one day I had it in a flash - they can't really touch me. I realised how much I'd been living in fear and latent shame, and I cast it off. It was brilliant, I still get a positive kick when I think about it.

But maybe the most powerful idea of all was what I picked up somewhere in Gurdjieff, or Ouspensky (same thing) or maybe some Zen book - ruthlessly cut from your life things that waste your time and energy.
You know, all of this can apply to getting through the working day too!

:D

That's a great story, Passing, a lot of which resonates with me. Thanks for posting.

Society makes you feel bad and unworthy for being poor; it's conditioning.

I'm finding it easier to get over as time goes by. ;):)

[thedefender]

I have completely dropped out of society. Here are some of my achievements.

1) I've been on the dole since 1990 and I am proud of it.

2) I sleep 11 hours a day and get up in the afternoon.

3) I spend nearly all my waking hours browsing the internet and watching TV.

4) I occasionally go to a brothel and shag a whore.

5) I brew and sup very cheap home brew wine.

6) I believe my lifestyle is near perfect and would only be better if I was a multi-millionaire.

http://www.tovx.com/Graphics/borat_how.jpg

[size_of_light]

So not only should a hard-working person have to work to pay for your way through life, but they're not also not allowed to spend their own money however they choose. And you actually believe that with your mentality, you're going to go up against the ptb and the nwo, and win. Ok, then, nothing more I can say.

I've done plenty of 'hard work' and will be doing plenty more 'hard work' before I'm done, but that's irrelevant to the point.

A Nazi who went to work impaling babies on his bayonet every morning might have liked to slip into his favorite armchair in front of the fire at night and get waited on hand and foot by his obedient wife as he smiled with satisfaction and fondled the trinkets and rewards of his successful life as a working man, but if he tried to justify what he did by simply proclaiming himself a 'hard worker' as though that somehow means something in itself, then I really wouldn't be all that impressed.

[merlincove]

Apparently (I may not be using the correct terminology here, but i will try)....
When you are born, and your birth is registered, and your birth certificate is created, you are then a 'possession of the United Kingdom/United States of America'..wherever you live).

The government is then allowed to use the fact that they 'own you', and then 'float bonds on you'...which accrues money, which you are actually entitled to, but not many people are aware of this fact.
Any benefits that a person claims come from this 'accrual of money'.

The money is rightfully yours, and accrues throughout the duration of your life.

(I've probably worded some of that wrongly but Im sure someone can correct me)

not a bad descript there mate :D

[measle_weasel]

Its funny how steppe has not responded at all to this thread, and in fact responds very little to any thread he creates that is provocative. Seeing as steppe is of a parasitical nature in the physical realm, I guess it follows that he is also parasitical in the spiritual aspect of life as well. I say his threads are designed to create negative energy directed at him in which he can suck up to sustain himself mentally and spiritually. No wonder he spends so much time on the internet... its like hes at a free energy buffet :rolleyes:

[1964]

That's a great story, Passing, a lot of which resonates with me. Thanks for posting.

Society makes you feel bad and unworthy for being poor; it's conditioning.

I'm finding it easier to get over as time goes by. ;):)

Poverty is when you work to earn a living, and you still don't have enough money to pay all your bills and buy your food. Someone who doesn't want to earn their own way in life has no right to claim poverty.

[zero1]

Poverty is when you work to earn a living, and you still don't have enough money to pay all your bills and buy your food. Someone who doesn't want to earn their own way in life has no right to claim poverty.

I worked all my life up until a while ago, things go wrong in life; you should not be so judgemental, really. Things may not work out as you envision yourself in your own life.

[branjo]

I have completely dropped out of society. Here are some of my achievements.

1) I've been on the dole since 1990 and I am proud of it.

2) I sleep 11 hours a day and get up in the afternoon.

3) I spend nearly all my waking hours browsing the internet and watching TV.

4) I occasionally go to a brothel and shag a whore.

5) I brew and sup very cheap home brew wine.

6) I believe my lifestyle is near perfect and would only be better if I was a multi-millionaire.

I commend you for every thing but point 4, that's nasty dude, surely you can do better than that?

[1964]

I've done plenty of 'hard work' and will be doing plenty more 'hard work' before I'm done, but that's irrelevant to the point.

A Nazi who went to work impaling babies on his bayonet every morning might have liked to slip into his favorite armchair in front of the fire at night and get waited on hand and foot by his obedient wife as he smiled with satisfaction and fondled the trinkets and rewards of his successful life as a working man, but if he tried to justify what he did by simply proclaiming himself a 'hard worker' as though that somehow means something in itself, then I really wouldn't be all that impressed.


Well, that's good then, that you wouldn't be impressed. You shouldn't be impressed. Let me explain why I'm not impressed. The man who kills babies for a living is earning money. The money you receive to provide for your own needs comes from the money the man made killing babies. Now the system the man works for wants to collect even more money from him because you're bleeding money from the system. So the man has to work even harder now, killing even more babies. While you sit and persecute both the man and the system he works for, talking about how horrible they both are for killing babies. In the meantime, where does all your money come from, which isn't even your own money? It comes from dead babies.

To completely divorce yourself from the world system is on the list of the 5 most difficult things you could ever do in this life. I understand why you would find it so difficult. All I'm saying is at least be honest about what you're doing. As much as the system is controlling you, don't let it make a liar out of you also. They want to bleed everything else out of you. If you let them take your principles too, then they'll have taken everything and left only your shell.

[1964]

I worked all my life up until a while ago, things go wrong in life; you should not be so judgemental, really. Things may not work out as you envision yourself in your own life.

You had said in a previous post that you felt guilty about being unemployed - you said you wished you could be a productive person. The next post I saw from you was in response to someone who was trying to ease your guilt, and you were responding the way most of us would - it feels good not to have to feel guilty. But if I'm hard on you, it's because I think your sense of guilt says something important, and positive about your character. Often times, guilt is imposed on us that shouldn't be imposed. But often times, guilt is also our own conscience guiding us away from doing the wrong things - things that hurt us in the end. In the positive sense, guilt is a good thing and a guide post placed in our path to lead us in the right direction. I don't know your circumstances, and I know life can be very hard. I just don't want to see you misled because you were convinced you should ignore your own conscience.

[amethyst]

You had said in a previous post that you felt guilty about being unemployed - you said you wished you could be a productive person. The next post I saw from you was in response to someone who was trying to ease your guilt, and you were responding the way most of us would - it feels good not to have to feel guilty. But if I'm hard on you, it's because I think your sense of guilt says something important, and positive about your character. Often times, guilt is imposed on us that shouldn't be imposed. But often times, guilt is also our own conscience guiding us away from doing the wrong things - things that hurt us in the end. In the positive sense, guilt is a good thing and a guide post placed in our path to lead us in the right direction. I don't know your circumstances, and I know life can be very hard. I just don't want to see you misled because you were convinced you should ignore your own conscience.

Why are you trying to act like his conscience 1964?

Why can't you let him think for himself without your "advice"?

[zero1]

You had said in a previous post that you felt guilty about being unemployed - you said you wished you could be a productive person. The next post I saw from you was in response to someone who was trying to ease your guilt, and you were responding the way most of us would - it feels good not to have to feel guilty. But if I'm hard on you, it's because I think your sense of guilt says something important, and positive about your character. Often times, guilt is imposed on us that shouldn't be imposed. But often times, guilt is also our own conscience guiding us away from doing the wrong things - things that hurt us in the end. In the positive sense, guilt is a good thing and a guide post placed in our path to lead us in the right direction. I don't know your circumstances, and I know life can be very hard. I just don't want to see you misled because you were convinced you should ignore your own conscience.

Don't worry, I won't ignore my own conscience. Thanks for the talk.

[baxter]

Its funny how steppe has not responded at all to this thread, and in fact responds very little to any thread he creates that is provocative. Seeing as steppe is of a parasitical nature in the physical realm, I guess it follows that he is also parasitical in the spiritual aspect of life as well. I say his threads are designed to create negative energy directed at him in which he can suck up to sustain himself mentally and spiritually. No wonder he spends so much time on the internet... its like hes at a free energy buffet :rolleyes:

Completely agree, its done to provoke and stir the custard. Someone must be bored...

[limelady]

i prefer you when you not a mod, one has to speak ones mind, doesnt one :D



chin chin! ;)

Lol.....being a mod NEVER stops him doing that! You should hear what he says in the mod forum. :eek:

When he's with us we have to X rate the place! :p

[jojo]

Lol.....being a mod NEVER stops him doing that! You should hear what he says in the mod forum. :eek:

When he's with us we have to X rate the place! :p

lol, i could WELL imagine :D


anyhoo, back on topic please ....... ;)

[steppewar]

Its funny how steppe has not responded at all to this thread, and in fact responds very little to any thread he creates that is provocative. Seeing as steppe is of a parasitical nature in the physical realm, I guess it follows that he is also parasitical in the spiritual aspect of life as well. I say his threads are designed to create negative energy directed at him in which he can suck up to sustain himself mentally and spiritually. No wonder he spends so much time on the internet... its like hes at a free energy buffet :rolleyes:

I've had a lie in and have only just got out of bed. I agree I am a parasite, but I am happy to live off taxpayers if they are stupid enough to go to work to pay for my bone idle lifestyle.

[limelady]

lol, i could WELL imagine :D


anyhoo, back on topic please ....... ;)

Indeed!

And here it is again in all its glory, lest we forget and waste too much of this important thread's space! ;)


I am happy to be a freeloading waster, are you?


I have completely dropped out of society. Here are some of my achievements.

1) I've been on the dole since 1990 and I am proud of it.

2) I sleep 11 hours a day and get up in the afternoon.

3) I spend nearly all my waking hours browsing the internet and watching TV.

4) I occasionally go to a brothel and shag a whore.

5) I brew and sup very cheap home brew wine.

6) I believe my lifestyle is near perfect and would only be better if I was a multi-millionaire.

[flickflack]

6) I believe my lifestyle is near perfect and would only be better if I was a multi-millionaire.

I don't have any tips on how you can get a millionaire, but I do know how you could save several pounds a year: stop trying to waste as much electricity as you can... While you think you are protesting against global warming hysteria, all you really do is wasting money.
Ans stop buying more plastic bags than you need. :D

This could save you some money, making you "richer".

[steevo]

I've had a lie in and have only just got out of bed. I agree I am a parasite, but I am happy to live off taxpayers if they are stupid enough to go to work to pay for my bone idle lifestyle.

But why start a thread about it ?

[lightgiver]

I have completely dropped out of society. Here are some of my achievements.

1) I've been on the dole since 1990 and I am proud of it.

those two statements do not go together..you havent dropped out of society if you are taking from it. in no way can you be seen as out of society if you take the dole..you are dependent on society more than i am working.

oh and to me, your life seems completely pointless aand void of any reason. you are sleeping half your life away (11 hours?) and just wasting time till you die. well done.

You would be surprised how much of a lot of peoples waking time is spent on trivial pursuits no better than Steppe wars lifestyle.

He aint killing anyone is he.;)

I still reckon he needs a job wiping nick griffins ass :D

I am sure there are plenty vacancies.

[them]

I have completely dropped out of society. Here are some of my achievements.

1) I've been on the dole since 1990 and I am proud of it.

2) I sleep 11 hours a day and get up in the afternoon.

3) I spend nearly all my waking hours browsing the internet and watching TV.

4) I occasionally go to a brothel and shag a whore.

5) I brew and sup very cheap home brew wine.

6) I believe my lifestyle is near perfect and would only be better if I was a multi-millionaire.


You seem to need reassurance..

It is better.. simply because you can do nothing, in style, anywhere you imagination takes you!

http://www.rc.net/wcc/israel/market11.jpg

Do you know what Jerusalem smells like? :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6O2bzuhvm8&feature=related

adventure

[gilly]

I'm pretty sure you've not disclosed anything about yourself in this thread that you hadn't already revealed several times previously, Steppe. :confused:

Thanks for sharing it all again though! :rolleyes:

[21_12_2012]

not a bad descript there mate :D

Cheers mate.
Rob Menard speaks about this, at 3 minutes 48 seconds into this video:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VboXs4P7T_M

He reveals how the government use 'us' (as collateral) to float bonds and loans, and make money using our 'person'

I still have to remember where I found the information that we are entitled to this money, and it is from this money that benefits are paid from.

I will post it here if/when I remember where I saw it.

So, is steppewar stealing ? Is he being lazy ? OR is he just claiming back a little bit of what is rightfully (legally) his anyway ?!

[nectars]

6) I believe my lifestyle is near perfect and would only be better if I was a multi-millionaire.

Thats not a living, its a dying.

As long as it works for you I guess.

[polveirbecker]

I'm pretty sure you've not disclosed anything about yourself in this thread that you hadn't already revealed several times previously, Steppe. :confused:

Thanks for sharing it all again though! :rolleyes:
David Icke and repeaters. :rolleyes:

Talking of David Icke where’s Baron Von Lotsov? :D

[1964]

Why are you trying to act like his conscience 1964?

Why can't you let him think for himself without your "advice"?

Of the few times zero1 and I have posted to each other, I'm not sure we've agreed on a single thing. I have all the confidence that he's capable of thinking for himself, without me to help him. Likewise, if zero1 wants to reject my advice, then I've seen how he's capable of doing this also on his own. I can't speak for you, but when I offer someone advice it's because I care, and want to encourage them. Of course that doesn't mean they have to take the advice.

[passing]

You had said in a previous post that you felt guilty about being unemployed - you said you wished you could be a productive person. The next post I saw from you was in response to someone who was trying to ease your guilt, and you were responding the way most of us would - it feels good not to have to feel guilty. But if I'm hard on you, it's because I think your sense of guilt says something important, and positive about your character. Often times, guilt is imposed on us that shouldn't be imposed. But often times, guilt is also our own conscience guiding us away from doing the wrong things - things that hurt us in the end. In the positive sense, guilt is a good thing and a guide post placed in our path to lead us in the right direction. I don't know your circumstances, and I know life can be very hard. I just don't want to see you misled because you were convinced you should ignore your own conscience.

Fucking hell, give the man a break!
You are not talking about real conscience, just the ersatz version.
I think you are being manipulative in a typically 'religious' way.

Zero1, laugh it off man, laugh it off!

[1964]

Thats not a living, its a dying.

As long as it works for you I guess.

Wow, that was very well put.

[kweli]

I'm pretty sure you've not disclosed anything about yourself in this thread that you hadn't already revealed several times previously, Steppe. :confused:

Thanks for sharing it all again though! :rolleyes:

Yup.. Steppe's an attention whore! -The Katie Price aka Jordan of the DIF :D

[1964]

Fucking hell, give the man a break!
You are not talking about real conscience, just the ersatz version.
I think you are being manipulative in a typically 'religious' way.

Zero1, laugh it off man, laugh it off!

So by telling someone that he's wise to listen to his conscience when his conscience speaks to him, then I'm trying to manipulate him. And I'm guessing from that, that you would call yourself a friend, who encourages a man to ignore his own conscience.

It could be that zero1 will reject my advice altogether. Maybe I even angered him by offering him my advice. I don't know. But where you and I are concerned, we obviously have very different ideas of what it means to be a friend.

[measle_weasel]

I've had a lie in and have only just got out of bed. I agree I am a parasite, but I am happy to live off taxpayers if they are stupid enough to go to work to pay for my bone idle lifestyle.

At least your not in denial, nor trying to deceive others into thinking of you a certain way. Thats commendable, and rare to boot.

[relentless]

I have completely dropped out of society. Here are some of my achievements.

1) I've been on the dole since 1990 and I am proud of it.

2) I sleep 11 hours a day and get up in the afternoon.

3) I spend nearly all my waking hours browsing the internet and watching TV.

4) I occasionally go to a brothel and shag a whore.

5) I brew and sup very cheap home brew wine.

6) I believe my lifestyle is near perfect and would only be better if I was a multi-millionaire.

If I gave you Five Million Pounds, tell me 6 things you would do differently...

[nofuture]

If I recall rightly Steppe said that his last job sent him mental. Maybe, despite his words, he is simply incapable of functioning in the rat race.

It's not exactly a life you would wish for if you're sociable.

As we've said before, those in jobs don't really want the competition.

[clachan]

Im not gonna apolagise for saying that lazy,good for nothing bums are a bore and a waste of space,they usually stink as well.

[primordialman]

There is major problem in western nations with people wanting to work however not being able to find it, even though they may have perfect qualifications and experience when relying on enterprsie to employ them.
Clearly we are in differnt class positions can only speak from our class backgrounds.
Most of us whom are wage slaves know their is major problem with agent organisation controlling too much of the employment process e,g recruitment agencies.
In my expereince recruitment companies have decided to blacklist some types of people for reasons which far from meritocracy usually comes down to something as simple as personal dislike for personalities which has nothing to with "the best person for the job" saying.

I suggest western nations need an overhual of Recruitment organisations they are corrupt and useless organisations, Due to their political correctness they also seem to have put the poor white male at the bottom of their preference list.
They seem to perceive all nationalities except the one of their host nation to be acceptable, e.g they go out of their way to employ the foreign applicants in a certain place and ignore the locals in that place thus, come across as being like flavour of the month type organisations e.g i like your qaint foregin accent so ill employ you over and above a local everytime!.

I would also challenge the concept of whether there is SOCIETY at all, as most of you are english didnt your previous PM Thatcher say their was no society just an economic system i happen to think that is closer to the mark in the western world. A system that ticks over no matter what but a society no this is crapola!.

Btw FMS and people that go to private grammar schools and have all the elite networks in the world due to their old school tie never even have job seek they use their old school tie like masons uses their secret handshake or they both one in the same networks anyway!.

[fairyelfdog]

Believe it or not I am actually trying to get out of a dependency on government money. I won't claim it will be easy for me though and I will not take a job that will break my spirit. Working doesn't neccessarily mean you contribute to the world you live in. Sometimes it's the other way around. Often in fact.

[fratoue]

I have completely dropped out of society. Here are some of my achievements.

1) I've been on the dole since 1990 and I am proud of it.

those two statements do not go together..you havent dropped out of society if you are taking from it. in no way can you be seen as out of society if you take the dole..you are dependent on society more than i am working.

oh and to me, your life seems completely pointless aand void of any reason. you are sleeping half your life away (11 hours?) and just wasting time till you die. well done.


Gotta side with Steppe here on this one; it's his life what the fuck has it got to do with you how much he sleeps?; and pointless why be so cruel?? Personally think it takes someone pretty removed from the system or enlightened (however you want to put it) to not give a shit about jobs and boast of being on the dole. Good luck man. I was on the dole for a year too but after a while it just began to depress me but each to his own take what you can from them.I signed off and am now back in education doing photography but one of the reasons I didn't do it years ago when I left school was people dictating to me how to live my life; which sadly happens on this forum too:mad:

[passing]

So by telling someone that he's wise to listen to his conscience when his conscience speaks to him, then I'm trying to manipulate him. And I'm guessing from that, that you would call yourself a friend, who encourages a man to ignore his own conscience.

It could be that zero1 will reject my advice altogether. Maybe I even angered him by offering him my advice. I don't know. But where you and I are concerned, we obviously have very different ideas of what it means to be a friend.

No time - I'll respond properly tomorrow, but for now: :p

I hope I'll find your sense of humour.

[passing]

Believe it or not I am actually trying to get out of a dependency on government money. I won't claim it will be easy for me though and I will not take a job that will break my spirit. Working doesn't neccessarily mean you contribute to the world you live in. Sometimes it's the other way around. Often in fact.

Yes, real conscience prevents us from taking many jobs.

[captain coconut]

If I gave you Five Million Pounds, tell me 6 things you would do differently...

So Fucking Right.^^^^^


and to the OP, im wondering how obese you are, perhaps mentally ill as well?

[steppewar]

If I gave you Five Million Pounds, tell me 6 things you would do differently...

If I had 5 million pounds I would still live similarly, but I'd probably buy a top of the range 100 inch tv, and get expensive escort girls to visit me.

I would get all my shopping delivered to me, and then I would not need to go out ever again.

[haukipesukone]

I keep pissing in that punchbowl at the company picnic.

Can't help meself. :p

There's no punch in it anyway without the piss.

[scooby doo]

I've been on the brew for over a year now and looking for a job just can't get one. Really can't...even went for a dish washing job there couple weeks ago a job I did in my teens and didn't even get as far as the interview....strange really. Point is that

1.I'm bored

2.I'm skint. My £127 a fortnight goes to food,gas and electric after that I'm skint....So if anyone wants to swap their job for my lazy lifestyle then I'm happy to swap.

PM me if you fancy it :rolleyes:

P.S.To the OP you're a wee trolling cunt in my eyes. You know what I mean.

[tracker]

I have completely dropped out of society. Here are some of my achievements.

1) I've been on the dole since 1990 and I am proud of it.

2) I sleep 11 hours a day and get up in the afternoon.

3) I spend nearly all my waking hours browsing the Internet and watching TV.

4) I occasionally go to a brothel and shag a whore.

5) I brew and sup very cheap home brew wine.

6) I believe my lifestyle is near perfect and would only be better if I was a multi-millionaire.

fuck me lol :D

some people work all their life and cant achieve that .:D

if you can make it work ------here's to you dude

happiness is the ultimate success .

if you've found it and don't have to work for it --------------seems as though some of us need your education on the matter lol.

PURE GENIUSE.:cool:

[exclamatio]

The way i see it is you have people offering to pay you to do nothing and you choose to accept and also to do very little.

I wouldn't be happy in your life and many wouldn't be happy in mine.

When I'm not travelling I get a huge pull to move, I try to go new places all the time, at home or abroad, I moved house 3 times in 2 years and I'll be moving a 4th time making it 4 in 3years! Then shortly after I'll be off around the world. I guess it fulfils me, going to new places, doing new things and making new friends. But thats me!

do you feel fulfilled as you are?

[tracker]

If I had 5 million pounds I would still live similarly, but I'd probably buy a top of the range 100 inch tv, and get expensive escort girls to visit me.

I would get all my shopping delivered to me, and then I would not need to go out ever again.

THATS A LOT .

5 million = ?

I would just have a boob implant lol :D
thats good enough reason not to leave the house .:D

[mcanya]

I am on incapacity benefit, I'm not fit to work, you know what really hacks me off, myself and the others who are medically not fit to work get complete stigma because of people like Steppewar completely taking the mickey, as much as I loathe this system, what do you actually contribute exactly? people who are on sick pay have to go through grueling medical examinations, paper work every few months, and we have to live off a shite amount of money, with no bugger to help. I have no choice. We aren't all fortunate to have Mummy and Daddy helping us out when we need them. If the system was abolished completely and we had to resort to being self sufficient and working together as a team, "tribes in mind here" you would be fucking useless Steppewar because of your pathetic lazy attitude, you wouldn't last for five minutes. I devote myself to spreading the truth, I write lyrics of truth so when I do actually make it no matter what forces I have to battle with I will help spread the message of peace, love and unity and I would risk my life doing so... putting two fingers up to people who have no choice but to work to feed their families and themselves is damn right insulting actually, my friend also has problems with her health but she can not afford to not work as she has a mortgage, so everyday she gets up wanting to jump in front of a car because the national health service won't help her and she just has to deal with it. I'm aware of how the tax system works, but your only cutting off your nose to spite your own face pal, and you don't realise this... As far as I'm concerned your a hypocrite to slate and condemn the system, when you do nothing to help the good of the people....
And referring to prostitutes as whores?! what does that make you then to actually pay for sex? your attitude reeks of a man who is bitter and wants to blame society for his own misfortune. For a 40 old year old bloke who writes consistent attention seeking posts it's absolutely pathetic.

[bobbydiva]

It's funny how some of you are still so attached to this idea of working, like because you cash some checks, pour some punters a drink or stack some shelves that you are somehow entitled to something and the OP isn't? Isn't this just your ego?

THEY LIED to you; you don't need to work, in fact its quite a preposterous idea. What is a productive life? Working isn't, it's just getting somebody else richer. Unless of course you are at the top of the food chain, and if that's the case you would definitely not be posting on here.

Get off your high horses. Maybe if we all went on the dole it might send them a message. Until then it is you so called hard workers that are holding up the house of cards.

[loki]

I am on incapacity benefit, I'm not fit to work, you know what really hacks me off, myself and the others who are medically not fit to work get complete stigma because of people like Steppewar completely taking the mickey, as much as I loathe this system, what do you actually contribute exactly? people who are on sick pay have to go through grueling medical examinations, paper work every few months, and we have to live off a shite amount of money, with no bugger to help. I have no choice. We aren't all fortunate to have Mummy and Daddy helping us out when we need them. If the system was abolished completely and we had to resort to being self sufficient and working together as a team, "tribes in mind here" you would be fucking useless Steppewar because of your pathetic lazy attitude, you wouldn't last for five minutes. I devote myself to spreading the truth, I write lyrics of truth so when I do actually make it no matter what forces I have to battle with I will help spread the message of peace, love and unity and I would risk my life doing so... putting two fingers up to people who have no choice but to work to feed their families and themselves is damn right insulting actually, my friend also has problems with her health but she can not afford to not work as she has a mortgage, so everyday she gets up wanting to jump in front of a car because the national health service won't help her and she just has to deal with it. I'm aware of how the tax system works, but your only cutting off your nose to spite your own face pal, and you don't realise this... As far as I'm concerned your a hypocrite to slate and condemn the system, when you do nothing to help the good of the people....
And referring to prostitutes as whores?! what does that make you then to actually pay for sex? your attitude reeks of a man who is bitter and wants to blame society for his own misfortune. For a 40 old year old bloke who writes consistent attention seeking posts it's absolutely pathetic.

tut tut tut ... you wanna spread peace love and unity to all ??? well my friend im afraid that this is about as far as u can get from it, if you call someone a hypocrite in your post its kinda good not to be one yourself in that same post ... don't get angry at some one just because their life is easier then yours, remember if you chose to have a mortgage thats your fault, if u cant afford a family .. why have one, don't whine about the fact that you have to pay for all these items when it was your choice to have them, then have the nerve to get up some one who didn't make the decision to do any of that, you claim your on incapacity benefits so how exactly CAN you contribute anything to society ? and if you can contribute, get a job doing that ????? if you can sit down and post shit on the net all day there are plenty of jobs you can do from home doing exactly that, so why don't YOU stop being lazy ??

he doesn't have to give anything to society if he doesn't want to, what truth are you spreading exactly because i wasn't aware that you had figured life out to such a point that you can claim your spreading the truth rather then just spreading your opinion

if you get offended by this im afraid your going to have to drink a nice cold concrete daiquiri and harden up a bit, in the mean time here have a tissue, if you wanna control people and tell them how to live and try and belittle them for living life the wanna live then your just as bad as the people we are all here against

he posted he stays at home all day by himself so its only natural he might want some attention every now and then and if this is how he goes about it .. good on him, he is allowed to do that

after this terrible display of a post you have written i will now refuse to read anything written by you in the future if it is even close to the hypocritical drivel i just witnessed

[relentless]

If I had 5 million pounds I would still live similarly, but I'd probably buy a top of the range 100 inch tv, and get expensive escort girls to visit me.

I would get all my shopping delivered to me, and then I would not need to go out ever again.

At the heart of it, you just don't want to go out, nothing wrong with that...
With all you're "requirements" catered for, you don't need five mill for that...:p

[1964]

No time - I'll respond properly tomorrow, but for now: :p

I hope I'll find your sense of humour.

Talk to me about something funny, and I'll laugh. I don't see anything funny in this. In fact, it angers me to hear people encouraging others to ignore their conscience. Say you encourage zero1 to ignore his conscience (which you have), and say he takes your advice, are you the one who's going to pay the consequences for him later on? No, he's the one who'll have to pay. And I see nothing humorous in that, not whatsoever.

[madamlasher]

I have completely dropped out of society. Here are some of my achievements.

1) I've been on the dole since 1990 and I am proud of it.

2) I sleep 11 hours a day and get up in the afternoon.

3) I spend nearly all my waking hours browsing the internet and watching TV.

4) I occasionally go to a brothel and shag a whore.

5) I brew and sup very cheap home brew wine.

6) I believe my lifestyle is near perfect and would only be better if I was a multi-millionaire.



This might be the scennario in which you meet your demise:

you get up in the arvo to drink your cheap home brew, after surfing the net you decide that you're in the mood for some lovin but realise it's a day before your dole cheque has arrived. So no broth for you today.

Since you no doubt masturbate alot you need more; some erotic asphyxiation will do, you do it but some how slip (most probably due to the home brew) thus choking yourself.

Neighbours find 1-2 weeks later after a terrible smell emits from your place.

[dmt head]

If I had 5 million pounds I would still live similarly, but I'd probably buy a top of the range 100 inch tv, and get expensive escort girls to visit me.

I would get all my shopping delivered to me, and then I would not need to go out ever again.

You dont want to go out with 5 million? Thats fucked, thats the system thats done that to you, you could pull lots of beautiful women and trick them into loving you with your cash rather than paying for it up front lol, youve got it all wrong, your a victom of their system because youve been indoors for so long living that life and im sure they love that depressing submission that so many give. Its a trap and youve fell for it, no doubt, I know people like that and ten years ago I was as depressed to an extent, as long as I had hash I was comfortable, bad scene man, your letting them win, or maybe your just a wee trolling cunt like Johnny Cash said! :p:D

[nofuture]

At least Steppe has no guilt, no shame and no peer pressure issues.

I find it hard not to admire that.

[kweli]

At least Steppe has no guilt, no shame and no peer pressure issues.

I find it hard not to admire that.

How do you know that?

[primordialman]

Im not gonna apolagise for saying that lazy,good for nothing bums are a bore and a waste of space,they usually stink as well.

Your a great christian arent you with those kind of attitudes! Your one of the reasons i stopped posting in the religion section your full blown hypocrite with no idea! I begininng to understand why others despise religion with people like you around claiming to represent true Christian faith!.

As for some of the rest of you i think you need to pull the head out your ass i realise full employment hasnt been a reality on under Montarist Economic systems for sometime now this has nothing to do with the GFC either it has been that way since at least the 1970s in most places.

Frankly though i hope this GFC leads to less economic migration so nations like Australia can focuss more on their own people instead try to accomodate every immigrant that seems to think Aus owes them a living before Aussies own citizens. I wont hold by breath though especially when it comes to the floodgates of asia or NZ( dont even need a working VISA).:D

[mcanya]

tut tut tut ... you wanna spread peace love and unity to all ??? well my friend im afraid that this is about as far as u can get from it, if you call someone a hypocrite in your post its kinda good not to be one yourself in that same post ... don't get angry at some one just because their life is easier then yours, remember if you chose to have a mortgage thats your fault, if u cant afford a family .. why have one, don't whine about the fact that you have to pay for all these items when it was your choice to have them, then have the nerve to get up some one who didn't make the decision to do any of that, you claim your on incapacity benefits so how exactly CAN you contribute anything to society ? and if you can contribute, get a job doing that ????? if you can sit down and post shit on the net all day there are plenty of jobs you can do from home doing exactly that, so why don't YOU stop being lazy ??

he doesn't have to give anything to society if he doesn't want to, what truth are you spreading exactly because i wasn't aware that you had figured life out to such a point that you can claim your spreading the truth rather then just spreading your opinion

if you get offended by this im afraid your going to have to drink a nice cold concrete daiquiri and harden up a bit, in the mean time here have a tissue, if you wanna control people and tell them how to live and try and belittle them for living life the wanna live then your just as bad as the people we are all here against

he posted he stays at home all day by himself so its only natural he might want some attention every now and then and if this is how he goes about it .. good on him, he is allowed to do that

after this terrible display of a post you have written i will now refuse to read anything written by you in the future if it is even close to the hypocritical drivel i just witnessed

Your opinion you ignorant arsehole, I'm entitled to freedom of speech, like you said if you don't like it don't read it, and learn some manners. I am a carer of someone, I help people, who are you to judge me at least I am putting back into society. You have absolutey no idea about my life. I work part time which you can with incapacity benefit, permitted work schemes, I least I help and give something back.

[nofuture]

How do you know that?

Well that's how it looks to me from his posts.

[madamlasher]

to the OP I seriously don't get why you would want to stay in and watch TV/internets all the time? You think you are fukcing the system, but in all seriousness you're fucking yourself. One day you'll wake up and realise you wasted your life.

[captain coconut]

It's funny how some of you are still so attached to this idea of working, like because you cash some checks, pour some punters a drink or stack some shelves that you are somehow entitled to something and the OP isn't? Isn't this just your ego?

THEY LIED to you; you don't need to work, in fact its quite a preposterous idea. What is a productive life? Working isn't, it's just getting somebody else richer. Unless of course you are at the top of the food chain, and if that's the case you would definitely not be posting on here.

Get off your high horses. Maybe if we all went on the dole it might send them a message. Until then it is you so called hard workers that are holding up the house of cards.
some people enjoy what they do maybe? ever think of that

[passing]

Talk to me about something funny, and I'll laugh. I don't see anything funny in this. In fact, it angers me to hear people encouraging others to ignore their conscience. Say you encourage zero1 to ignore his conscience (which you have), and say he takes your advice, are you the one who's going to pay the consequences for him later on? No, he's the one who'll have to pay. And I see nothing humorous in that, not whatsoever.

Good morning.

You seem quite robotic and humourless - that with your advocation of feeling guilty makes me wonder if you are a catholic?

Anyway...

You've ignored the important part of my earlier response, which was to distinguish between 'real conscience' and the ersatz version.

I'll try not to waffle:

Morality is manmade, changeable, political, subjective.

Negative emotions like guilt result from this method of social control and 'normalisation'.

Real conscience, I admit right away requires some kind of leap of faith but mainly experience and work on oneself - not 'work' as in job, which is a perversion of the word/concept and which fits into the social control I mentioned above.

Real conscience is - I believe - a form of 'universal truth' which we can access by getting all the crap in our lives out of the way and being honest with ourselves and each other. Organised religion steals this idea and sells it back to us in order to control. Conscience is Right rather than Right&Wrong. It's not the cliche of a nagging angel&demon on the shoulders but an insight into what is right to do, the right way to go.

Guilt, which you have been advocating, is a result of the 'religious' (political) lies so prevalent in our society. I ask if you are catholic because they (among others) tend to believe that we're all automatically guilty from birth to death and it's a sign of religiousness to feel guilty forever like it's man's true condition, which I reject - which true conscience tells one to reject because it's a tool for creating a slave-mentality and miserable people.

I don't have anything funny to say except I would enjoy seeing you being a little less serious-bordering-on-solemn.

Time for breakfast.

[passing]

This should put a smile on anybody's face. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mivnxTL5aA)
(It's a short YouTube vid)
:D

[fairyelfdog]

I have completely dropped out of society. Here are some of my achievements.

1) I've been on the dole since 1990 and I am proud of it.

2) I sleep 11 hours a day and get up in the afternoon.

3) I spend nearly all my waking hours browsing the internet and watching TV.

4) I occasionally go to a brothel and shag a whore.

5) I brew and sup very cheap home brew wine.

6) I believe my lifestyle is near perfect and would only be better if I was a multi-millionaire.


Why do I get the feeling you are just fishing to be loved and accepted for who you are, Steppe? ;) You have every right to exist. I don't think your life is a "moral outrage". It's never too late to do what you came here to do. Your value is unquestionable.

[bobbydiva]

some people enjoy what they do maybe? ever think of that

Of course - I love my job, I have nothing against working, but I also have nothing against people not working. It's people that don't like their job and get all uppity at freeloaders that are deceiving themselves.

[clachan]

Your a great christian arent you with those kind of attitudes! Your one of the reasons i stopped posting in the religion section your full blown hypocrite with no idea! I begininng to understand why others despise religion with people like you around claiming to represent true Christian faith!.

As for some of the rest of you i think you need to pull the head out your ass i realise full employment hasnt been a reality on under Montarist Economic systems for sometime now this has nothing to do with the GFC either it has been that way since at least the 1970s in most places.

Frankly though i hope this GFC leads to less economic migration so nations like Australia can focuss more on their own people instead try to accomodate every immigrant that seems to think Aus owes them a living before Aussies own citizens. I wont hold by breath though especially when it comes to the floodgates of asia or NZ( dont even need a working VISA).:D

O,right.....because i think the OP is a good for nothing lazy bum that makes me a bad Christian does it:confused:.....its the truth mate,simple really.
In any case,this has nothing to do with God or religion or my take on those things,just my oppinion on this subject,so stop dragging Christianity into this !!
If my son turns out like him he,ll find himself in boot camp fierce quick i can tell you.
The OP contributes nothing to society,he only wants to take.

[fairyelfdog]

O,right.....because i think the OP is a good for nothing lazy bum that makes me a bad Christian does it:confused:.....its the truth mate,simple really.
In any case,this has nothing to do with God or religion or my take on those things,just my oppinion on this subject,so stop dragging Christianity into this !!
If my son turns out like him he,ll find himself in boot camp fierce quick i can tell you.
The OP contributes nothing to society,he only wants to take.

Asshole.

[baxter]

Be aware that your posts may be silently removed with no explanation :mad:

[clachan]

Asshole.

Really ?......my son will be under NO illusions as to what i expect of him,then there,s no room for misunderstanding.

If you dont mind your kids leading a wasted life thats your business.

Question: If everyone had the OP,s attitude who will you phone up when your house is on fire ?
Who will you phone up when you have an accident ?.......There would be noone there,they,d be either in bed or too pissed or in the local brothel.

Are you also a bum ?

[hollo]

Really ?......my son will be under NO illusions as to what i expect of him,then there,s no room for misunderstanding.


the problem here as with most forums is *deep breath*

someone finds a statement that is right and fits what they think so they
spam it and shove it down everyone elses throat!

in reality right and wrong are just perspective and there are many way to
look at 1 topic - its true that from 1 perspective you can be seen as a
sponge on society but from another you see that working is only slaving
to give money to other ppl and the system is designed to create slaves
to fund/fuel the war and whatever these horrible ppl want.

im not saying work is wrong but that the current system is very questionable.

[branjo]

Really ?......my son will be under NO illusions as to what i expect of him,then there,s no room for misunderstanding.

If you dont mind your kids leading a wasted life thats your business.

Question: If everyone had the OP,s attitude who will you phone up when your house is on fire ?
Who will you phone up when you have an accident ?.......There would be noone there,they,d be either in bed or too pissed or in the local brothel.

Are you also a bum ?

More to the point, what will he do when the Dole stops paying the bills?

[amethyst]

Of the few times zero1 and I have posted to each other, I'm not sure we've agreed on a single thing. I have all the confidence that he's capable of thinking for himself, without me to help him. Likewise, if zero1 wants to reject my advice, then I've seen how he's capable of doing this also on his own. I can't speak for you, but when I offer someone advice it's because I care, and want to encourage them. Of course that doesn't mean they have to take the advice.

No, you come across as the "thought police", who feel's it's necessary for you to do the "thinking" for someone else.......

What you are doing is not care and concern but more of a "forcing" of your opinion onto someone else......

Hmmm...I wonder what this reminds me of?

[haukipesukone]

Asshole.

I think you summed it up best. Nothing else needs to be said really.

[ignoranto_bliss]

This should put a smile on anybody's face. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mivnxTL5aA)
(It's a short YouTube vid)
:D

LOLLLLL hahaha psssssss monitor covered with saliva :D :D

thanks for posting

[ignoranto_bliss]

Work is slavery ... if you love what you do its not work imo.

[clachan]

I think you summed it up best. Nothing else needs to be said really.

Utter rubbish !
If the OP were a member of any tribe or close knit community that depended on team work that put high value on individual contribution for the good of the whole he would be ousted for being anti social.
That should also apply to our culture for the same reasons.

So Im an "asshole" for upholding those values ?
You are a symtom of the moral decay that is partly responsible for the sad state of western society.

You should change your signiture mate,it dont make sense.

[ignoranto_bliss]

Unfortunately the community is tightly knit around your neck nowadays. Life is a big mindgame nowadays and you get played by the big boys. Or fuckitall ...:D

[clachan]

Unfortunately the community is tightly knit around your neck nowadays. Life is a big mindgame nowadays and you get played by the big boys. Or fuckitall ...:D

Life is a big mindgame ???

Life is for living imo.

[ignoranto_bliss]

Life is a big mindgame ???

Life is for living imo.

Correct and so is living life on the dole ... just living .

[passing]

Correct and so is living life on the dole ... just living .

Yeah, even if you end up on the dole against your wishes, you still have the freedom not to be made miserable.

Glad you enjoyed the German weather. :D

[ignoranto_bliss]

Yeah, even if you end up on the dole against your wishes, you still have the freedom not to be made miserable.

Glad you enjoyed the German weather. :D

Haaa haaa :D:D weather . If only if only all the people in this world could be so relaxed on their day jobbies as this lady on her LIVE TV :eek: weather forecast . Then there would be no JOBS only LOVEITS . But im sure steppe would still homebrew :D

[clachan]

Correct and so is living life on the dole ... just living .

Living ? or just existing and looking back on a life of doing nothing,what a waste of such a precious gift.

Imagine laying in a hospice some where at the end of a long life of say 85 years,and thinking "what did i ever do?"......and its all just one big fat NOTHING.

May as well never lived.

[ignoranto_bliss]

Living ? or just existing and looking back on a life of doing nothing,what a waste of such a precious gift.

Imagine laying in a hospice some where at the end of a long life of say 85 years,and thinking "what did i ever do?"......and its all just one big fat NOTHING.

May as well never lived.

Correct again but maybe after you had your life sucked out of you by your day jobbie for whatever reason maybe doing nothing becomes ultimate living experience for some . Maybe yes or maybe no maybe for me maybe for you.

Steppe wrote some time ago that it was the case .

Its damned if you do damned if you dont situation

[passing]

Living ? or just existing and looking back on a life of doing nothing,what a waste of such a precious gift.

Imagine laying in a hospice some where at the end of a long life of say 85 years,and thinking "what did i ever do?"......and its all just one big fat NOTHING.

May as well never lived.

Hello!
Do you think that being a poet is ever valid? Or a painter and so on? A lot of them live like that, but surely their productivity can validate the apparent laziness? You can overdo it, but it's good to spend time thinking.

To my mind the only thing that the original poster should change is this: get rid of the telly, and perhaps the internet, and do whatever it is he secretly fancies like learning the trumpet or writing. I reckon he'll get sick of the inertia eventually and make a positive decision. All the best to him, anyway.

[primordialman]

O,right.....because i think the OP is a good for nothing lazy bum that makes me a bad Christian does it:confused:.....its the truth mate,simple really.
In any case,this has nothing to do with God or religion or my take on those things,just my oppinion on this subject,so stop dragging Christianity into this !!
If my son turns out like him he,ll find himself in boot camp fierce quick i can tell you.
The OP contributes nothing to society,he only wants to take.
You seem to have no problem portraying your self as the perfect disciple of christ in the religion section of the fora yet apprently your showing clear behaviour of not wanting to live by the very same word, you seem to feel like shoving down others neks. Hypocrite and shill, why you may ask, because you seem to have set yourself up as defender of the status quo.
Oh btw your faith means nothing if you dont live it towards others! Anyway frankly i hope your religion dies a quick death!.

[flickflack]

Of course - I love my job, I have nothing against working, but I also have nothing against people not working. It's people that don't like their job and get all uppity at freeloaders that are deceiving themselves.

People who are working themselves off to earn a living may find it a little unfair that others get paid by tax money from others. When I had my previous job, I felt the same way... Because I was so overqualified for my job, and yet my boss with lower education than me turned us in a bad light by not making the right decisions. Giving us this boss was the baste the state could do? I mean, where did they find this guy? :confused:
Oh, and the salary? The lowest that I ever had.

[steevo]

Yup.. Steppe's an attention whore! -The Katie Price aka Jordan of the DIF :D

:D Maybe they should put him on the front of OK magazine - They could make an absolute fortune!

[fairyelfdog]

Really ?......my son will be under NO illusions as to what i expect of him,then there,s no room for misunderstanding.

If you dont mind your kids leading a wasted life thats your business.

Question: If everyone had the OP,s attitude who will you phone up when your house is on fire ?
Who will you phone up when you have an accident ?.......There would be noone there,they,d be either in bed or too pissed or in the local brothel.

Are you also a bum ?

Yep. Are you a nazi?

hauki:

I think you summed it up best. Nothing else needs to be said really.

Mhm.

I would also like to advice against calling Steppe an attention whore. I suspect it turns him on.

[Ian2day]

I was born to loaf

[clachan]

You seem to have no problem portraying your self as the perfect disciple of christ in the religion section of the fora yet apprently your showing clear behaviour of not wanting to live by the very same word, you seem to feel like shoving down others neks. Hypocrite and shill, why you may ask, because you seem to have set yourself up as defender of the status quo.
Oh btw your faith means nothing if you dont live it towards others! Anyway frankly i hope your religion dies a quick death!.

What an assumption !
Me,a perfect desciple of Christ ?.........no where near and i dont pretend to be anything other than what Iam,so you show me where I made such a claim.
How I wished I were.
So how is my oppinion anti Christian ? If you took the time to study the life of Christ you may find he also became infuriated with people he saw as freeloaders or very similar.

FYI.....I NEVER pass by a beggar,a person in NEED of help or anyone I see in a situation of stress or danger...I do live by my belieifs as much as is possible,however i have no time for bums...end of.
However this has nothing to do with Christianity so stop trying to drag it in...keep to the thread!


Dont be an arse.I do not defend the status quo,this is another one of your wild assumptions.Can you tell me how Im doing that?
Before you flap out the obvious BS answer let me put you straight.
Im talking about "service" here,not money and not tax...yes,being of use to the community in at least some small way.You cannot disagree that this is good for the soul.
Get it ?....serving the needs or wants of your fellow human being..even the the "whores" the OP shags are doing that !!They are of more use to society than him and probably you too.

Grow up.

[clachan]

Hello!
Do you think that being a poet is ever valid? Or a painter and so on? A lot of them live like that, but surely their productivity can validate the apparent laziness? You can overdo it, but it's good to spend time thinking.

To my mind the only thing that the original poster should change is this: get rid of the telly, and perhaps the internet, and do whatever it is he secretly fancies like learning the trumpet or writing. I reckon he'll get sick of the inertia eventually and make a positive decision. All the best to him, anyway.

Agreed.:)

[brainfreeze]

I have completely dropped out of society. Here are some of my achievements.

1) I've been on the dole since 1990 and I am proud of it.

2) I sleep 11 hours a day and get up in the afternoon.

3) I spend nearly all my waking hours browsing the internet and watching TV.

4) I occasionally go to a brothel and shag a whore.

5) I brew and sup very cheap home brew wine.

6) I believe my lifestyle is near perfect and would only be better if I was a multi-millionaire.

Is that it? 6 simple lines and you're ok Jack?

God your life is small mate. You've not yet begun LIVING. Sad that you probably never will as you're content with your lot.

Good luck and I raise a glass to you, only do you mind finishing it as that homebrew tastes like piss to me.

[primordialman]

Get it ?....serving the needs or wants of your fellow human being..even the the "whores" the OP shags are doing that !!They are of more use to society than him and probably you too.

SOCIETY ahah what fool you seriously believe in that concept! I live in very multicultural nation, Aus is especially so in big cities.The concept of cohesive society is long way from most peoples minds. I will not speak for France, as know nothing of the situation there.
However the concept of SYSTEM is quite different, it deosnt pretend to be what isnt in terms of the bogus social connotations of the word SOCIETY!.
The SYSTEM I live nothing in my case it has not provided me with decent living standard or nothing of a normal life the nation which provides me with nothing has the gaul to ask me fights it wars in afganisation.
Seems my greatest crime was being born as a caucasain citizen of Australia in a big city!.
Frankly any system that does not provide for all it citizens that do put in the effort does not deserve anything in return service or otherwise,although when you state service i suspect like most cronies you mean SELF INTEREST e.g meaning its all about how it benefits you first then others incidentally, i ve read Adam Smiths classical economic too you know!.



Grow up.
A definition please! I suspect your selfish middle class wanker that likes to speak out his ass about the situations of others when you have never been there, your an IGNORMOUS! I owe the middle class nothing anywhere except a broken nose, which more than happy to dish out if they disrespect me in public! They will soon learn with whom not to FUCK with!.

[trappedinameatsuit]

I suspect your selfish middle class wanker that likes to spe...

Can I have some money?

[primordialman]

Can I have some money?

Go ask Mr Chen or Mr Ching Li o.k Randy!.

[curtaincat]

So long as Steppe is happy, that is the main thing.

Good luck Steppe :cool: :)

( luv the way people get wound up re your posts) ! :D:cool::D

[clachan]

SOCIETY ahah what fool you seriously believe in that concept! I live in very multicultural nation, Aus is especially so in big cities.The concept of cohesive society is long way from most peoples minds. I will not speak for France, as know nothing of the situation there.
However the concept of SYSTEM is quite different, it deosnt pretend to be what isnt in terms of the bogus social connotations of the word SOCIETY!.
The SYSTEM I live nothing in my case it has not provided me with decent living standard or nothing of a normal life the nation which provides me with nothing has the gaul to ask me fights it wars in afganisation.
Seems my greatest crime was being born as a caucasain citizen of Australia in a big city!.
Frankly any system that does not provide for all it citizens that do put in the effort does not deserve anything in return service or otherwise,although when you state service i suspect like most cronies you mean SELF INTEREST e.g meaning its all about how it benefits you first then others incidentally, i ve read Adam Smiths classical economic too you know!.




A definition please! I suspect your selfish middle class wanker that likes to speak out his ass about the situations of others when you have never been there, your an IGNORMOUS! I owe the middle class nothing anywhere except a broken nose, which more than happy to dish out if they disrespect me in public! They will soon learn with whom not to FUCK with!.

Has it occured to you that if you make an effort to inprove society then you would not have so much to winge about.
If you live in a failed society then all the more reason to make an effort to reclaim it.Not just throw in the towell like you seem to have done.If you dont like the socirty you live in then either do something about it or get out.

Your suspicions are wrong....Im not from the middle classes.
As far as a dishing out brocken noses is concerned,what can i say.....apart from LOL:),at least you have some spirit.

[hollo]

notice steppe hasnt posted anything else on this thread? :D

[steppewar]

notice steppe hasnt posted anything else on this thread? :D

Let me make it clear. I live off the state guilt free. The job I had until 1990 made me go mental. I then went on to DSS and have been there ever since.

For the last 20 years I have lived like a hermit off the state apart from shagging a whore in a brothel once a month.

If anyone has a problem with this, it is there problem as I don't give a shit.

[metacomet]

For the last 20 years I have lived like a hermit off the state apart from shagging a whore in a brothel once a month.


You are probably not alone...

not by a long shot.

You should still want better for yourself. *look of shame upon you*

[nofuture]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/coventry_warwickshire/8368312.stm

The picnic that is life on benefits. :rolleyes:

[whatistruth]

How do you afford the whores on benefits?

its what 160 quid every 2 weeks?

A decent whore will cost you 200 for an hour.

[monitorlizard]

I know in a way how it goes.

One of my best friends was diagnosed with schizophrenia 20 years
ago and has been on invalidity benifit since. He still wants to work
on something he can do, and the system lets him down.

If I had tons of money. I'd buy him an independent music shop and
he would be totally over the moon, and he could run it well, with
a little assistance from myself :)

[steppewar]

After much deep thought and contemplation I now know for a fact that ANYONE who is NOT a freeloading waster is an evil scumbag.

IE, if you are not a freeloading waster you are directly supporting and propping up the current system that is destroying you, and everyone else on this planet.

[brainfreeze]

After much deep thought and contemplation I now know for a fact that ANYONE who is NOT a freeloading waster is an evil scumbag.

IE, if you are not a freeloading waster you are directly supporting and propping up the current system that is destroying you, and everyone else on this planet.

Yet the freeloader is happy to live off the material handouts from the evil scumbags who fund your freeloading lifestyle?

I'd be more convinced of your unltruistic freeloading lifestyle if you were truley a hunter gatherer, but you're not.

Always fun to watch you shake the snow globe though.

[the moral man]

1) I've been on the dole since 1990 and I am proud of it.

Dear steppewar
kind regards
I have two questions.
1. How can you be proud to have been on the dole for nineteen years?
I am currently signing on myself at the moment, but will soon be signing off due to upcoming employment.
I was quite comfortable to sign on, but its not something to be overly proud of.
2. How have been able to sign on JSA for nineteen years without being struck off?
After six months of signing on the JSA office starts to apply pressure to people by having an advisor put them on courses and even taking their benefits away if they can't find work.
If you could kindly answer my questions A.S.A.P I'd appreciate it.
yours thankfully
John

[flickflack]

Short answer, steppewar is very good at failing job interviews. He even had his own thread on it. Also, he has a attitude that he is not going to work ever again... At least that is his attitude.

[kblood]

I dont mind people leeching off the system. As long as the whores SteppenWolf pays arent slaves I dont mind that either. As long as he isnt dealing drugs that are bad for people and live off other peoples misfortunes.

And the tax system? At least here in Denmark everything is taxed, so maybe 10% is actually something someone actually earns or is the products real value. The rest just goes back into the government coffers, and sent to somewhere else. So to the government, then its about 10% of what Steppenwolf is spending that is even remotely lost to them.

I can only hope he tries to spend his money on something like organic products, instead of serving their GM foods plan. I try to support that as little as possible, but it isnt easy, and hard to know how to find all these products.

I have lived off benefits the first 25 years of my life. Had issues so I got more money to get an education and such. Now I am working and trying to learn how to become self employed which is what was the main goal of the education I choose. My goal is to use their system against them. Make sure awareness is spread and I find that easier with a job, and it is a job I like even though I am paying 50% of what I earn back to the government. Some of it I might get back as pension and then it will be taxed once more. Still it gets me enough money to make some connections and travel a bit. To actually be doing something against the NWO it seems important to find ways to become less dependent on the system. So these days I am looking into alternative energy sources a bit. Hydrogen Generators and solar power. Combined it should make for good ways to get electricity and heat.

Zero point energy would be even better, but solar power and making energy out of water seems to be closer to zero point energy than most the things I have been looking at. Also actual zero point energy seems dangerous in quite a few ways. Not just from the government if they found out you are messing around with real zero point energy. I dont expect to find real ways of making a zero point energy device though, at least not in the near future.

[whatistruth]

You didnt answer my question about how you afford the whores.

[kblood]

You didnt answer my question about how you afford the whores.

By now having one every month maybe? Or sticking with the one dollar ones? Or the ones that just needs a few drinks.

I wouldnt buy sex, but the cheapest offer I have come across walking down the wrong street one night instead of taking a cap, was $7. I considered just giving her the money and tell her to get a real job, she didnt even seem old enough to have sex legally. At least not 18. But I didnt, I wouldnt encourage begging, but then I guess she didnt have much choice. I like to think there is always a choice, but I just cant put myself in those shoes to say for sure.

Maybe he got a membership discount?

[clachan]

After much deep thought and contemplation I now know for a fact that ANYONE who is NOT a freeloading waster is an evil scumbag.

IE, if you are not a freeloading waster you are directly supporting and propping up the current system that is destroying you, and everyone else on this planet.

Dont feed the troll.

[metacomet]

After much deep thought and contemplation I now know for a fact that ANYONE who is NOT a freeloading waster is an evil scumbag.

IE, if you are not a freeloading waster you are directly supporting and propping up the current system that is destroying you, and everyone else on this planet.

If that isn't a troll statement...

I do have to agree with everyone who has stated that most of your threads are troll material :p Always trying to provoke predictable responses.

[the moral man]

After much deep thought and contemplation I now know for a fact that ANYONE who is NOT a freeloading waster is an evil scumbag.

IE, if you are not a freeloading waster you are directly supporting and propping up the current system that is destroying you, and everyone else on this planet.

Dear steppewar
kind regards
That is the funniest statement that a devout dole seeker used to justify his 'principle' in signing on.
One of the funniest things I have yet seen is a conversation on George and Mildred.

Mildred - George you don't sign on don't you have any pride?

George - I don't work, I make about as much as I do if I did Im pretty proud of that!

Why don't you just admit that you like to sign on because you can't be bothered to work?
I would have more respect for you if you just admitted it instead of giving that ridiculous (but funny) excuse above for justification.
yours thankfully
John

[steppewar]

You didnt answer my question about how you afford the whores.

£40 once a month is the price for straight sex at the whorehouse I visit. I can afford it as my outgoings are so low. Apart from this I never go out, never buy clothes, always eat economy food, drink cheap homebrew, no car, no partner, no kids etc.

[kblood]

£40 once a month is the price for straight sex at the whorehouse I visit. I can afford it as my outgoings are so low. Apart from this I never go out, never buy clothes, always eat economy food, drink cheap homebrew, no car, no partner, no kids etc.

Same here, without spending any thing on whores. The last 5 months I even payed for two people, which I could almost afford. He did not do any chores though, even when he said he would, so I had to let him go. So now I got almost $400 more for myself each month, and I can apply for some more money since I got a large apartment on rent. Which gives about £60 more each month.

I worked a bit extra these last few months which gives me more than one full month of pay, which makes me dept free by January. Depending a bit on how much I spend on x-mas presents and going out drinking after x-mas dinners. I might go out drinking one or two times every second month, which I guess sums up to about £40.

And my job postponed giving any raises at all this January, so no reason to work any more than needed before summer. Working at a call center I just basicly have to show up and maybe take 6-10 calls each day at most. So at work 8 hours, and working maybe 3 hours. They claim its due to the financial crisis, which is bullshit. They already announced how well they are doing, so they have no excuse as to why they wont even raise our salary with the inflation rate. Without giving that raise they are effectively paying us less money. How is that for work inspiration?

Suits me well, even though I actually like working hard. Now it is just on principle I wont work any more than the minimum required work. And even though I am never sick, I think I will begin just taking some of those sick days. Looking at sick days at the amount you are allowed to have, I got about 1-3 sick days each month. I think I will use them for some extra vacation this x-mas.

That is what they get for taking away the motivation for doing the job well.

If they fire me I might loose $400 each month, but guess what? That just evens it all out.

[flickflack]

I can afford it as my outgoings are so low. Apart from this I never go out, never buy clothes, always eat economy food, drink cheap homebrew, no car, no partner, no kids etc.

I always wondered how you got enough money to stock up on indecent light bulbs, and paying for all the electricity you are wasting.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that your use of indecent light bulbs is your most unnecessary energy waste... But your investment of a plasma TV instead of LCD just because the plasma TV had higher energy consumption than the LCD seems just like a huge waste. Unless, of course, you are using your plasma TV both as a TV and room heater to heat up some of the air in your flat (consumed watts => heat).

Also, I take it you don't actually pay for your consumption of hot water? :rolleyes:
Because all that hot water you are using on your "dish-splash rinsing" costs a lot of money to heat up...

[seercirra]

steppewar.

how would you feel if society were to crumble and benefits nor jobs were available?

would it make you happy because the corrupt society had crumbled? or sad, because you have to get your own food (although in an honest manner, hunt for it yourself)?

just interested. cheers.

[johntitor]

This is just a sad pathetic post of a life of grime.. ..

[steppewar]

steppewar.

how would you feel if society were to crumble and benefits nor jobs were available?

would it make you happy because the corrupt society had crumbled? or sad, because you have to get your own food (although in an honest manner, hunt for it yourself)?

just interested. cheers.

To be honest, I wouldn't give a shit. I'd just sponge of my wealthy parents, instead of the state.

[brainfreeze]

To be honest, I wouldn't give a shit. I'd just sponge of my wealthy parents, instead of the state.

Ah, a little insight into what made the man :p

Sell outs? Or, got what they have through blood, sweat and tears?

[the obliterati]

I'll add my two cents: you can be a "freeloading waster" a hell of a lot easier in a country that has free healthcare!! No one with chronic health issues can be a "freeloading waster" where I live, without risking an early death. The US has got its slavery racket sewn up, since in most cases you can't get life-saving care (for yourself or your kids) without also having a job.

[fromthatshow]

I work two days a week. I think I should quit though.

[seercirra]

To be honest, I wouldn't give a shit. I'd just sponge of my wealthy parents, instead of the state.

no you miss my point.

society has crumbled. there is nobody left. you are in a survival situation.

is that a good thing or bad?

[steppewar]

no you miss my point.

society has crumbled. there is nobody left. you are in a survival situation.

is that a good thing or bad?

Well, I think it would be bad for everyone. Hunting your own food, survival of the fittest etc, no thanks.