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nirvana
18-11-2009, 12:10 AM
Wether your a christian buddhist etc. All truth is in the eye of the beholder.
dedicate
18-11-2009, 12:16 AM
Nope.
tenzingnorgay
18-11-2009, 05:13 AM
Wether your a christian buddhist etc. All truth is in the eye of the beholder.
Nope, redux
merlincove
18-11-2009, 05:35 AM
i think its right that we do create our reality from the programme and lifestyle that we embrace.
does any religion rely on Infinite Truth as a prime consideration? In theory both the Christian faith and the Buddhist faith have Infinite Love at their core, the teachings of both the Christ and The Buddha are built around Infinite Truth, it is only through the manipulation of man that religion has become a controlling factor. Religion is now more about the Church and mans subjugation to rule, fear and guilt than it is about the teachings of its patriarchs.
I believe one can put their faith in the Christ and The Buddha and live life from the heart, working with their message to make the world a better place.
And then the truth, as from the eye of the beholder, will always be one of peace.
:D
Wether your a christian buddhist etc. All truth is in the eye of the beholder.
"The World is Yours" - says the United Nations
"Unity in Diversity" - says the European Union
"We all worship the same god" - says the Roman Catholic Vatican
"All Faiths must work Together" - Tony Blair Faith Foundation
Et al.
Very New World of you to say such a thing. Look at my avatar - the various religious symbols of the world, all gravitating around the symbol for the United Nations at the center.
If it weren't your soul hanging in the balance, I might congratulate you on becoming a good Catholic; and a faithful follower of the New World Order.
pinkfreud
18-11-2009, 05:42 AM
Very New World of you to say such a thing. Look at my avatar - the various religious symbols of the world, all gravitating around the symbol for the United Nations at the center.
what's so 'new world-y' about the OP? i don't think he was talking about dismantling religion for a twisted purpose. all he was saying is that all religions- however fucked they are, they have some semblance of truth and understanding at their core- and that it doesn't matter who or what you believe in.
i think its right that we do create our reality from the programme and lifestyle that we embrace.
does any religion rely on Infinite Truth as a prime consideration? In theory both the Christian faith and the Buddhist faith have Infinite Love at their core, the teachings of both the Christ and The Buddha are built around Infinite Truth, it is only through the manipulation of man that religion has become a controlling factor. Religion is now more about the Church and mans subjugation to rule, fear and guilt than it is about the teachings of its patriarchs.
I believe one can put their faith in the Christ and The Buddha and live life from the heart, working with their message to make the world a better place.
And then the truth, as from the eye of the beholder, will always be one of peace.
:D
Christ hasn't said that He is merely honest, or that He merely knows the Truth. Christ has said He is Truth itself, and that NO MAN can come to the Father but through Him. So by the very nature of His claim, about Himself, Christ hasn't given you the choice to say He's like any other god - without simultaneously calling Christ a liar.
Now if I were to tell you who I am, but you chose to tell yourself I was someone different, then you would be deceiving yourself. So it is with everyone who rejects Christ, and who creates for him or herself a set of false beliefs that are better suited to their personal desires and tastes.
For some, when they're given the truth, the truth tastes sweet in their mouths. They embrace the truth, and want more of it. But to others, the truth tastes bitter. They spit the truth out in preference of those lies that are sweeter tasting to the liar's palate. It will be revealed in the end how each man who was deceived began by first deceiving himself.
pinkfreud
18-11-2009, 06:04 AM
oh jeez :rolleyes: so this is about christ being the only true 'medium' to nirvana is it? or maybe i'm mistaken.
there have been many 'gods' or prophets in various religions who have said the only way to 'enlightenment' is through them. christ was definitely not the first one to say it, and he sure isn't the last.
what's so 'new world-y' about the OP? i don't think he was talking about dismantling religion for a twisted purpose. all he was saying is that all religions- however fucked they are, they have some semblance of truth and understanding at their core- and that it doesn't matter who or what you believe in.
Hi pink,
Haven't chatted with you in a while :)
Look at my avatar, and pay close attention to their religious propaganda. That's their message precisely: "Bottom line is, none of the differences are significant, and we all worship the same god. So let's all get along." (While the Antichrist rules over all of you.) Course, they don't tell you that last part.
These aren't my words. I'm only paraphrasing. You can find the same sentiment expressed over and over again, being pounded into people's minds by mainstream media and the ptb. It's no coincidence that it's become a very popular and accepted way of thinking even amongst those who believe they're finally "awake".
Not only are they not awake, they've fully swallowed the NWO's message, and are now defending it to others.
pinkfreud
18-11-2009, 06:08 AM
i know what you're getting at, 1964- but i think you're misunderstanding the message of this thread.
religion in itself is evil; and so is the demolition of all religion to 'unite' the world under a one true god, or whatever they have planned. that is also a religion in itself, because it is enforcing a herd mentality.
we all have individual paths, and we are free to believe what we want. choosing to be spiritual instead of religious and allowing that to divide us is what i think the OP meant.
oh jeez :rolleyes: so this is about christ being the only true 'medium' to nirvana is it? or maybe i'm mistaken.
there have been many 'gods' or prophets in various religions who have said the only way to 'enlightenment' is through them. christ was definitely not the first one to say it, and he sure isn't the last.
But there is only one God Who will not bow down to the New World Order. As to the rest, they're all falling in line precisely as expected and prophesied - including the many false Christs that have arrived, as evidenced by the symbol of the cross also gravitating around the symbol of the United Nations along with all the rest.
pinkfreud
18-11-2009, 06:13 AM
But there is only one God Who will not bow down to the New World Order. As to the rest, they're all falling in line precisely as expected and prophesied - including the many false Christs that have arrived, as evidenced by the symbol of the cross also gravitating around the symbol of the United Nations along with all the rest.
so is that your god? what about the gods so many other people of various faiths believe in? going by your argument, i'm assuming you view all religions other than christianity utter tosh.
that isn't a very 'open' view to take... upholding your values at the cost of others, if you know what i mean.
i know what you're getting at, 1964- but i think you're misunderstanding the message of this thread.
religion in itself is evil; and so is the demolition of all religion to 'unite' the world under a one true god, or whatever they have planned. that is also a religion in itself, because it is enforcing a herd mentality.
we all have individual paths, and we are free to believe what we want. choosing to be spiritual instead of religious and allowing that to divide us is what i think the OP meant.
Hmmmm, I read the OP again, and I'm not hearing what you're hearing. What I'm hearing from the OP is that it doesn't matter which god a person worships, or in your case if they call themselves "spiritual" - the truth still resides within each person, to be defined by each individual. If I've understood the OP correctly, then that is very much NWO propaganda.
Maybe clarification from the OP would help?
so is that your god? what about the gods so many other people of various faiths believe in? going by your argument, i'm assuming you view all religions other than christianity utter tosh.
that isn't a very 'open' view to take... upholding your values at the cost of others, if you know what i mean.
No, I would never think of people being deceived as mere "tosh". It's something I take very seriously.
I see things very much in the reverse from you. The truth saves people; the lie is what destroys them. If I help to uphold the lie, then I also help in their destruction. And then there's no value in anything I do after that.
pinkfreud
18-11-2009, 06:32 AM
No, I would never think of people being deceived as mere "tosh". It's something I take very seriously.
I see things very much in the reverse from you. The truth saves people; the lie is what destroys them. If I help to uphold the lie, then I also help in their destruction. And then there's no value in anything I do after that.
so all people other than those those who follow christianity are being deceived, yes?
i think that's bs. division along the very same lines is really what religion is all about. christianity included.
the teachings of christ (the man, not the christ personality built over the ages) are very similar to buddha and krishna though.
so all people other than those those who follow christianity are being deceived, yes?
i think that's bs. division along the very same lines is really what religion is all about. christianity included.
the teachings of christ (the man, not the christ personality built over the ages) are very similar to buddha and krishna though.
Our beliefs are so opposed, that it's not possible for us both to be telling the truth. And I don't mean by that that either of us is deliberately lying, but that at least one of us has to be deceived. Now where my God, the God Who I believe is the only true and living God, foresaw even the misuse and abuse of His own Name; your own beliefs have led you to believe precisely what the ptb are pushing hard to have everyone believe. So how should I respond to that? Should I respond by choosing to also be deceived, as a means of proving that I don't wish for you or anyone to be deceived? That's foolishness, akin to jumping off a bridge simply because everyone else is doing it.
You're wrong. Religion hasn't been used to cause division between people - religion has been used to corral people. It's like a monster with many tentacles. The monster sends his tentacles out in different directions to trap his prey all around him. But then when the monster gives the command, all the tentacles return to him delivering their prey to the one, same head. You will see it for yourself, if you should live long enough, how all the world's religions will unite as one under the rule of the Antichrist, spiritism included in all its various forms of expression. The religious division you think you see is false - the picture will change dramatically when the tentacles are given the command to return to the one who's controlled the tentacles all along.
nirvana
18-11-2009, 09:26 AM
oh jeez :rolleyes: so this is about christ being the only true 'medium' to nirvana is it? or maybe i'm mistaken.
there have been many 'gods' or prophets in various religions who have said the only way to 'enlightenment' is through them. christ was definitely not the first one to say it, and he sure isn't the last.
Hi pinkfruud what Im saying is at a deeper level all truth etc goes beyond words and language. I believe the most powerful thing religeon etc can do is awaken peoples heart chackra.
I believe jesus and buddha etc came to a state that was beyond words etc.
The kingdom of god is inside you and all around you when you go beyond words and langage. But this is only my faith . Everyone must choose their own path wether it is conscious or sub conscious.
nirvana
18-11-2009, 09:29 AM
Hi pink,
Haven't chatted with you in a while :)
Look at my avatar, and pay close attention to their religious propaganda. That's their message precisely: "Bottom line is, none of the differences are significant, and we all worship the same god. So let's all get along." (While the Antichrist rules over all of you.) Course, they don't tell you that last part.
These aren't my words. I'm only paraphrasing. You can find the same sentiment expressed over and over again, being pounded into people's minds by mainstream media and the ptb. It's no coincidence that it's become a very popular and accepted way of thinking even amongst those who believe they're finally "awake".
Not only are they not awake, they've fully swallowed the NWO's message, and are now defending it to others.
While we are in this body and have to filter everything through this organic lump of grey matter we are not really awake.
The only thing that we can achieve in this life and the most important thing is peace.
tenzingnorgay
20-11-2009, 05:52 AM
All Yahweh based religions are mechanisms for controlling us, nothing more
All Yahweh based religions are mechanisms for controlling us, nothing more
Yes, I agree with this. Even more, religions are actually convincing people that there is a higher authority outside in sky.
Religion always relys on "anything outside" to aid instead of taking responsibility of their own lifes, children and the planet.
Religions in all their forms are the MOST destructive manipulation form ever set on human beings. Look at this forum! Also HERE people are convinced that THEIR god is the true god and that all this stuff is the absolute truth. People here are also debating about some kind of devil...
It is all very weird.
We are trying to look for any outside force that manipulates us, but in fact we are just manipulating ourselves. Just look at this forum!
nirvana
20-11-2009, 03:58 PM
All Yahweh based religions are mechanisms for controlling us, nothing more
We are all controlled to some degree by our subconscious. Like I have said while we are in this body all we can do is filter all info through this lump of grey matter and try and be more at peace. Are yahweh religeons any more controlling than the TV,The internet, school,books,family,friends etc
nirvana
02-10-2011, 08:44 PM
bump
knightofthegrail
02-10-2011, 08:51 PM
Wether your a christian buddhist etc. All truth is in the eye of the beholder.
Really? Is that the truth....?
itsallinus
02-10-2011, 09:00 PM
Christ hasn't said that He is merely honest, or that He merely knows the Truth. Christ has said He is Truth itself, and that NO MAN can come to the Father but through Him. So by the very nature of His claim, about Himself, Christ hasn't given you the choice to say He's like any other god - without simultaneously calling Christ a liar.
Yes, meaning that one can only return to god (unity consciousness) through Truth. And that truth lies within all of us. So we must know thyself and be the truth. Love is the only truth everything else is illusion. Be truth, be love. Know thyself. No need to believe in anything when you ARE the truth and know this.
kappy0405
02-10-2011, 09:03 PM
i think its right that we do create our reality from the programme and lifestyle that we embrace.
does any religion rely on Infinite Truth as a prime consideration? In theory both the Christian faith and the Buddhist faith have Infinite Love at their core, the teachings of both the Christ and The Buddha are built around Infinite Truth, it is only through the manipulation of man that religion has become a controlling factor. Religion is now more about the Church and mans subjugation to rule, fear and guilt than it is about the teachings of its patriarchs.
I believe one can put their faith in the Christ and The Buddha and live life from the heart, working with their message to make the world a better place.
And then the truth, as from the eye of the beholder, will always be one of peace.
Christ hasn't said that He is merely honest, or that He merely knows the Truth. Christ has said He is Truth itself, and that NO MAN can come to the Father but through Him. So by the very nature of His claim, about Himself, Christ hasn't given you the choice to say He's like any other god - without simultaneously calling Christ a liar.
aha.. but infinite love is the only truth, everything else is an illusion. So Jesus was proclaiming himself an archetype for the infinite consciousness/love which is the ultimate reality. His "anointing" was his reception of this holy spirit. :cool:;)
elirien
02-10-2011, 09:39 PM
Wether your a christian buddhist etc. All truth is in the eye of the beholder.
Well yes but that is also because Buddha wasn't Buddhist and Yeheshua wasn't Christian :D They were lead by God (Unity) and perceived only God (Unity). Buddha even has gone so far that he said that one should kill the Buddha if one saw one meaning even the mental concept of such a thing doesn't do it. One needs experience (Gnosis/Knowledge/Qiyam).