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zander
17-11-2009, 05:32 PM
I hope I am not being too paranoid here, after seeing this article (http://www.infowars.com/population-reduction-globalist-endgame-begins/), it would be easy to draw conclusions.

But basically I have had multiple people witness black helicopters with very little markings, spray equipment mounted, actively spaying over populated areas in the South West of the UK.

I was wondering if anyone on here has seen similar things elsewhere in the country?

I really do not want to start anyone panicking, no offense guy's, but I know that some people on here can get carried away and run with something like this and end up getting hysterical.

I am trying to think of a logical explanation for black helicopters to be spraying fine mists over populated areas, but right at this moment, I can't think of one?

If anyone has any ideas, please pitch in?

Once again please do not panic, it's probably nothing, but I thought the question was worth posting on here.

phemohilia
17-11-2009, 05:36 PM
It's a "Love-Mist"..... :p

freeyourmind85
17-11-2009, 05:41 PM
It's a "Love-Mist"..... :p

Shame it hasn't worked on me and my love life then :( :D

freeyourmind85
17-11-2009, 05:42 PM
I hope I am not being too paranoid here, after seeing this article (http://http://www.infowars.com/population-reduction-globalist-endgame-begins/), it would be easy to draw conclusions.

The link isn't working :confused:

zander
17-11-2009, 05:45 PM
The link isn't working :confused:

Fixed now, sorry about that.

freeyourmind85
17-11-2009, 05:59 PM
Fixed now, sorry about that.

Thanks for that :)

mrs houdini
17-11-2009, 06:00 PM
Hi Zander your link is still not working:( I have seen them over Glasgow, had a pic on my phone but it got deleted :( same senario black with no markings very sinister looking:eek: but I am glad to say I dont know of anyone suffering any ill effects yet.

Love and Peace,

Linda:D

pureheart
17-11-2009, 06:03 PM
Here is the article:

Population Reduction: Globalist Endgame Begins?

On October 30th,”2009 editors of local papers in Kyiv, Ukraine received a flood of phone calls from citizens reporting low flying aircraft spraying an unknown aerosolized substance over L’viv, Ternopil and other cities. On October 27th”the Ukrainian media broke the story that on October 26th”in Ternopil an unknown flu had killed seven people , and that over the past few days about 6 thousand people had sought out medical attention in regards to flu like symptoms. From this first report through to the 9th”of November over 1 million people inside the Ukraine people have contracted some form of flu like illness. This is almost double the number of ‘confirmed’ H1N1 cases worldwide in all other countries. There have also been over 155 deaths reported due to influenza during this time. This outbreak is unprecedented yet it has received minimal coverage in the western media. It just seemed to get lost amidst all of the swine flu coverage, and written off as just more cases of H1N1 before any lab samples had been processed. In the Ukrainian and”Russian media however the outbreak has been treated more seriously and has been referred to as ‘pneumonic plague’. On October 29th”a report came out of Ukraine describing the deaths of 6 young people in the Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast. After the autopsies were performed it was recorded that the cause of death in these individuals was “severe hemorrhagic pneumonia”. Also unconfirmed reports from bloggers in the Western Ukraine that doctors were seeing that this was a new form a flu that killed much faster than the regular H1N1 virus. “Soon Ukrainians started to panic, and the stores emptied of masks and all forms of flu medication. Even onions, garlic, and lemons became scarce in so me cities. As a countermeasure to this outbreak 9 Oblasts (cities) were placed under quarantine by the government. The WHO sent a team of experts to take samples of this new flu and send them back to the Mill Hill lab in London to determine the gene sequences of this flu, and to discover if this was in fact the same Californian/Mexican A/H1N1 virus. “On November 3rd”the WHO announced that the samples had been received at Mill Hill, yet almost a week later there have been no reports issued and no gene sequence data released. If these were typical samples it seems that an announcement would have been made already. “The silence is deafening. It should also be noted that rumors of the doctors being told not to disseminate any information about the new flu cases that would incite any panic, were later confirmed by statements made by the Ukrainian government that police have been told to confiscate hospital reports on patients who have recently contracted the flu.” All things considered, it would not be a surprise if this unidentified virus turned out to be far more serious than the mild A/H1N1 circulating the globe.

Two unconfirmed reports, one in 2002 and one in 2009 by alleged government insiders revealed that at some point that live 1918 Spanish flu would be released on a large scale in the form of a vaccine, for the purpose of mass genocide. The August 2009 report by Joseph Moshe revealed that he was involved with Baxter in a plan to release the 1918 virus in the Ukraine. Not only was it confirmed that he was a microbiologist, his claim was also substantiated by the current Ukrainian outbreak. After a number of deaths in September the Ukrainian government”banned the use of the H1N1 vaccine. This would make it quite difficult to release the 1918 virus as described by Joseph Moshe.” It now seems as though the vaccine ban will be lifted and h1n1 vaccines will be forced on the people of Ukraine. “On November 9th”the”Globe and Mail“published a story that revealed, despite”previous claims“by the Ukrainian Government that they had not authorized the use of aerosolized medication on the public as a response to the outbreak, that they in fact “sprayed the city with the necessary products”.” Was this in fact medication or disinfectant? If so why would the government deny this? “Was the spraying in fact a release of the mystery flu? Was the original intention to release it via the vaccine? Was the aerosol release the plan B after the Ukrainian government banned the use of the vaccine? A blog post from a Lviv resident claimed that his mother who works for the city council received a text message the night of Oct 29th from a colleague warning her to keep her windows closed as something was to be sprayed. The context wasn’t crystal clear. It could have been a warning regarding a street disinfecting procedure as is often done during typhoid outbreaks. The government’s denial is not irrefutable proof of a bio-attack, but it is suspicious.

As reported by SkyWatch Canada on September 15th , the frequency of low flying aircraft with unusual flight patterns have caught the attention of Canadians living in the Nation’s Capital. Is there a chance that Canadians are being acclimated to these types of flight patterns for a future bio-release ? In 1994 such an event took place in the town of Oakville, Washington where there were confirmed reports of a clear gel like substance raining form the sky and making residents horribly ill. Readers should also be reminded of the report given on the Power Hour radio show in March 2009, about truckloads of “bird flu” being delivered throughout America to underground missile silos orchestrated by the department of homeland security. Several of those loads were delivered into the back of a military C-130 (an aircraft often equipped with an aerosol dispersal system). Was this multi-million dollar operation conducted for the purpose of spreading the mild and basically insignificant H1N1 demi-flu ? Or has the final phase of the operation yet to occur? Has the event to justify the recent American National Emergency yet to occur? Will the CDC finally make use of their scores of mass graves and plastic caskets? Will the military be deployed to put the country under pandemic lockdown, as we have seen in the Ukraine? Far too much has been put into the H1N1 fiasco for it to amount to a mere outbreak of the common cold. It seems like many pieces of a plan have been put in place. Will the NWO put the people in check? Will the virus ‘Mutate’? Is this the beginning of the Globalist Endgame of population reduction ?

There are reports now coming from Romania, India, Bulgaria, Belarus, Turkey, Norway that the rate on increase of flu is increasing rapidly. In Norway foe example 300,000 residents contacted the flu in a single week. Whatever disease has been released is moving across Europe fast. This bug has spread too widely to be a Ukrainian election scam. Readers should note that just before the outbreak in Ukraine, the government was running pneumonic plague drills. In early November, there were also pneumonic plague drills being run in Illinois. Connect the dots. Notable there have also been reports of heavy supply and personnel movement in and out of known D.U.M.B.s (Deep Underground Military Bases) very recently. According to an unconfirmed report the parking lots of these bases are full and haven’t been this full since just after 911. What is going on? Will this fast moving disease be released in America? Listen for low flying aircraft. Shut your windows at night. Stock up on colloidal silver, antibiotics and high quality vitamins. Please watch the skies!


Scary!

zander
17-11-2009, 06:06 PM
Hi Zander your link is still not working:( I have seen them over Glasgow, had a pic on my phone but it got deleted :( same senario black with no markings very sinister looking:eek: but I am glad to say I dont know of anyone suffering any ill effects yet.

Love and Peace,

Linda:D

The link in the origional post is working but I will re post here. (http://www.infowars.com/population-reduction-globalist-endgame-begins/)

As for your description, that is exactly the same as the ones that have been seen at this end of the country. My Dad managed to get a photo I think, but could not get a detailed photo of the number on the helicopter. I am asking him to mail me the photo so that I can possibly get it up on here.

eternal wheel
17-11-2009, 06:07 PM
But basically I have had multiple people witness black helicopters with very little markings, spray equipment mounted, actively spaying over populated areas in the South West of the UK.

where abouts in the SW? when?

mrs houdini
17-11-2009, 06:18 PM
Very good post Pureheart, I will be watching the skies like a woman possesed, now this is all very disturbing, I was again offered the H1N1 vacine at work I refused, don't know what my bosses will try next :eek:

Love and Peace,

Linda :D

audiolink
17-11-2009, 06:22 PM
Funny you should mention this, as I saw and heard a chopper coming over here one day about three weeks ago. E Sussex area. It was really noisy as if the big ends were ready to dropout. I went out the back to have a look as it wa going over, and it had no markings. Went over again the next day too-different directionm. Never noticed any spraying arms like a crop duster would have tho.

the nine
17-11-2009, 06:24 PM
The link in the origional post is working but I will re post here. (http://www.infowars.com/population-reduction-globalist-endgame-begins/)

As for your description, that is exactly the same as the ones that have been seen at this end of the country. My Dad managed to get a photo I think, but could not get a detailed photo of the number on the helicopter. I am asking him to mail me the photo so that I can possibly get it up on here.

good work..
lets try and expose these sick bastards.
size of light is good at photo enhancement if you dont have much look.
thanks for the heads up.

zander
17-11-2009, 06:50 PM
where abouts in the SW? when?

Around Plymouth and surrounding areas.

zander
17-11-2009, 07:00 PM
Thanks for the serious replies to this thread, I have to stress that I really do not want to panic anyone unduly, god knows there is enough fear knocking about the place.

But in saying that, I would not have posted this thread if I were not in some way concerned with what has been seen. I would ask that people to pay attention to what is flying above there heads.

Does anyone know if there is some official way of attempting to find out what has been flying in your immediate airspace?

jiffy
17-11-2009, 07:24 PM
I saw 2 black military type helicopters twice in a week, this was a couple of weeks ago.
They "flu:eek:" along the beach line in Brighton, didn't see spying equipment;)

garyhartill
17-11-2009, 07:57 PM
:eek: i have seen helicopter over st helens last week with some kind of arms on each side of it it went away then returned as if to do a sweep :mad: was dull and saw no spray
THIS IS NOT BULL-HIT!!!!!!!

neutrino
17-11-2009, 07:58 PM
I've not seen no chemtrails let alone any black helicopters. I'm not worried.

garyhartill
17-11-2009, 08:00 PM
where do you live neutrino mars:eek:

neutrino
17-11-2009, 08:24 PM
where do you live neutrino mars:eek:

Maybe they're just spraying the cities here in the UK and leaving the towns?

ennui
17-11-2009, 08:31 PM
Had black helipcopters over my house for the last two nights in Kent. Very unusal here as we don't have a police helicopter in this county and the air amulance is white.

holylucifer
17-11-2009, 09:08 PM
Around Plymouth and surrounding areas.

These black helicopters are goverment helicopters they are extremely extremely quiet and the only thing you can barely hear is the rotor blades, i know i had one visit me regarding the ark of the covenant and it was about 12 meters above me.

They have overunity systems in them.

el jefe
17-11-2009, 09:23 PM
We need pics/vids of these helicopters!!

i know i had one visit me regarding the ark of the covenant and it was about 12 meters above me..
more info on this?

dynamicwiseman
17-11-2009, 10:30 PM
I hope I am not being too paranoid here, after seeing this article (http://www.infowars.com/population-reduction-globalist-endgame-begins/), it would be easy to draw conclusions.

But basically I have had multiple people witness black helicopters with very little markings, spray equipment mounted, actively spaying over populated areas in the South West of the UK.

I was wondering if anyone on here has seen similar things elsewhere in the country?

I really do not want to start anyone panicking, no offense guy's, but I know that some people on here can get carried away and run with something like this and end up getting hysterical.

I am trying to think of a logical explanation for black helicopters to be spraying fine mists over populated areas, but right at this moment, I can't think of one?

If anyone has any ideas, please pitch in?

Once again please do not panic, it's probably nothing, but I thought the question was worth posting on here.

You are not being paranoid, i too have witnessed an increase in air traffic around my area with no logical explanation. We are witnessing a transformation taking place, where the biggest prize is people's sanity. The ruling class, the elites...whatever you want to call them are trying to shut down our metaphysical response to global warming. Shutting down our double helix DNA super computer via synaptic pathways is why they spray chemicals in the sky to try and slow our awakening to the sickness of society.

Society is really ugly, and some real brave souls are needed to change things around for the better.

bernardboggins
18-11-2009, 12:20 AM
not seen any helicopters, but i did see a massive russian type cargo plane fly into yeovil the other day

iane78
18-11-2009, 01:17 AM
Yes, I saw a low-flying black copter a couple of days back. Thought it looked a bit out of place but didn't think much of it. There was no spraying though. Wish I'd payed it more attention at the time now..

neoconsumer
18-11-2009, 01:26 AM
Are you serious?

I mean how could you be the only person to notice black helicopters flying around spraying people? Surely lots of people would have kicked up a fuss if it happened over populated areas like you say.


With planes and chemtrails it's different as it happens at some altitude and people just think they're looking at contrails.

Helicopters on the other hand don't leave contrails, and if they were rigged with spraying gear I imagine they'd get a lot of attention from the general public beneath.


If you saw something like this:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/06/19/article-1194176-05689842000005DC-917_468x309.jpg

Flying over a town/city and not a field then I'd be a little concerned too!

zander
18-11-2009, 05:43 AM
Are you serious?

I mean how could you be the only person to notice black helicopters flying around spraying people? Surely lots of people would have kicked up a fuss if it happened over populated areas like you say.


With planes and chemtrails it's different as it happens at some altitude and people just think they're looking at contrails.

Helicopters on the other hand don't leave contrails, and if they were rigged with spraying gear I imagine they'd get a lot of attention from the general public beneath.


If you saw something like this:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/06/19/article-1194176-05689842000005DC-917_468x309.jpg

Flying over a town/city and not a field then I'd be a little concerned too!

To answer your first question neoconsumer, yes I am serious, I would not have posted this if I was not.

I like yourself would have thought that somebody would have said something about this before now, I have been checking the news and forums but have come across nobody else talking about it.

The first time I noticed this was over a week ago, but yesterday was the first time it was seen by multiple witnesses actively spraying over the town in which I live.

I had another scout about online to see again if anyone was talking about it but still nothing. So I made the decision to engage people on this forum by creating this post.

Personally, I would like there to be a rational explanation on this, as if this is malicious, then my town and therefor my house and family will have been caught up in whatever is being sprayed. You can avoid a jab, but how can you avoid the air you breath?

I completely understand where you are coming from though, I really would have thought people would be raising merry hell trying to get to the bottom of this. But if you have spoken to many people still living in the consensus trance reality, you will have no doubt noticed that many have a hard time just keeping up with the news, there favorite soap opera or reality TV program, let alone noticing anything in the real world that may be of importance to there lives.

To comment on the picture you posted, yes it looked just like that, with spray arms as are pictured, or like this:

http://www.mfhhelicopters.co.uk/media/galleries/11/EX-22-08-07-024.jpg

extended and in operation over a town right next to a large city, south west UK.

Those are the facts believe it or disbelieve it, it's up to you and makes no odds to me really. All I would ask is that people pay attention to what is flying just above there heads. Take a camera out with you, if you see this happening where you live, try and catch it on camera and post it.

Also I came across this (http://www.sagazone.co.uk/forums/thread/51946/) reference the Ukraine story, quite interesting.

neutrino
18-11-2009, 07:10 AM
I think it depends how high the copter is, if it's pretty high not many would notice, they'd just take a glance and see a copter and carry on regardless. If it's high enough the chemicals could not be as clear.

zander
18-11-2009, 07:27 AM
I think it depends how high the copter is, if it's pretty high not many would notice, they'd just take a glance and see a copter and carry on regardless. If it's high enough the chemicals could not be as clear.

Yes I would like to right off peoples non observance with the same explanation, thought I have to say, that fact is, it really was not flying that high at all. You could plainly see with the naked eye exactly what it was and what it was doing.

Really it beats me why this has not been reported sooner?

elixirsoo
18-11-2009, 08:02 AM
Also I came across this (http://www.sagazone.co.uk/forums/thread/51946/) reference the Ukraine story, quite interesting.

At 07:46 AM this link was 'Not Available'...?

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/5117/screenshotc.th.png (http://img694.imageshack.us/i/screenshotc.png/)

Wonder if it will be the same after the 'maintenance'...? What UK site does 'maintenance' at this time of day? :confused:



(http://img690.imageshack.us/i/screenshothi.png/)

zander
18-11-2009, 08:08 AM
At 07:46 AM this link was 'Not Available'...?

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/5117/screenshotc.th.png (http://img694.imageshack.us/i/screenshotc.png/)

Wonder if it will be the same after the 'maintenance'...? What UK site does 'maintenance' at this time of day? :confused:



(http://img690.imageshack.us/i/screenshothi.png/)

I have the page still open in a seperate window. It is basicly a forum where the ukrainian situaition is being discused. Most of the information covered there is on this article though (http://www.infowars.com/a-tale-of-two-stories-the-european-biowar-outbreak-and-the-censoring-of-it-by-the-mainstream-news-media/).

icarus
18-11-2009, 08:10 AM
i've noticed an increase in helicopters independent of anything i've read here, keep telling people the same and they tend to agree. they're not quiet though, and it's at night around here so no idea what colour they are or if they have markings.

next time the twats fly past at two in the morning waking everyone up i'll try to get a shot of them (with a camera of course)

a much bigger concern is the endless tracked vehicles we have on the roads due to one of their murder incorporated outposts being nearby, supplying vehicles to fight for freedom and democracy no doubt

elixirsoo
18-11-2009, 08:25 AM
I love Google Cache. :cool:

http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:VDyvEcI4nwgJ:www.sagazone.co.uk/forums/thread/51946/+sagazone+ukraine&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk



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Ukraine In A State Of Panic As 3 Strains Of Flu Virus Sweep Across The Country Causing Countries That Border It To Close Their Crossings

Why Is The Government & Most Of The Media Silent About Pneumonic Plague Spreading In The Ukraine?
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Polpo
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There was an 'epidemic' of Swine Flu across all forms of media - why the silence on this lethal mutated viral infection?
Of course conspiracies abound

Kiev, Ukraine - Authorities in the town of Kiev, Ukraine denied any spraying of "aerosolized medication" by aircraft over the city. This after it was reported that light aircrafts were seen flying over the forest market area that sprayed a aerosol substance to fight h1n1 or swine flu.

5 Sources confirms this and the local newspapers of Kiev also received hundreds of phone calls from residents and business owners close to the area the planes were spraying the suspicious substance. Not only that but local businesses and retailers were "advised" to stay indoors during the day by the local authorities.

As if that is not enough, the government authorities also pushed the radio stations in Kiev to deny the reports. Online on forums, websites and blogs reports came in about eye witness accounts that confirms this. There was also reports of helicopters spraying aerosols over Kiev, Lviv, Ternopil and throughout Ukraine.

30th October the Ukraine president Viktor Yushchenko ordered the army or Ministry of Defense to establish mobile hostpitals to provide “essential medications” for people infected with h1n1 (swine flu).

Then just recently the entire Ukraine was put under martial law, more shocking is the statement before the serious pneumonic plague broke out “Due to the complex epidemiological situation in the western regions of Ukraine, where tens of thousands of people have become ill, thousands are in hospital, and dozens have died.”

So what exactly is going on here? Coincidence or not?

Have a friend who is Slovakian & she indeed confirms that borders are closing............

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There was an 'epidemic' of Swine Flu across all forms of media - why the silence on this lethal mutated viral infection?
Of course conspiracies abound

Kiev, Ukraine - Authorities in the town of Kiev, Ukraine denied any spraying of "aerosolized medication" by aircraft over the city. This after it was reported that light aircrafts were seen flying over the forest market area that sprayed a aerosol substance to fight h1n1 or swine flu.

5 Sources confirms this and the local newspapers of Kiev also received hundreds of phone calls from residents and business owners close to the area the planes were spraying the suspicious substance. Not only that but local businesses and retailers were "advised" to stay indoors during the day by the local authorities.

As if that is not enough, the government authorities also pushed the radio stations in Kiev to deny the reports. Online on forums, websites and blogs reports came in about eye witness accounts that confirms this. There was also reports of helicopters spraying aerosols over Kiev, Lviv, Ternopil and throughout Ukraine.

30th October the Ukraine president Viktor Yushchenko ordered the army or Ministry of Defense to establish mobile hostpitals to provide “essential medications” for people infected with h1n1 (swine flu).

Then just recently the entire Ukraine was put under martial law, more shocking is the statement before the serious pneumonic plague broke out “Due to the complex epidemiological situation in the western regions of Ukraine, where tens of thousands of people have become ill, thousands are in hospital, and dozens have died.”

So what exactly is going on here? Coincidence or not?

Have a friend who is Slovakian & she indeed confirms that borders are closing............

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Subject: Re: Ukraine In A State Of Panic As Combination Of 3 Strains Of Flu Virus Sweep Across The Country Causing Countries That Border It To Close Their Crossings
Posted At: 16/11/2009 16:19:50

This (http://www.who.int/csr/don/2009_11_03/en/index.html) is what the WHO are saying.

elixirsoo
18-11-2009, 08:31 AM
I have the page still open in a seperate window. It is basicly a forum where the ukrainian situaition is being discused. Most of the information covered there is on this article though (http://www.infowars.com/a-tale-of-two-stories-the-european-biowar-outbreak-and-the-censoring-of-it-by-the-mainstream-news-media/).

I have posted the thread from Google Cache too. I think it's really important to have an individual's words on record, as they were spoken, to avoid the corruption introduced by paraphrasing as much as possible. :)

simmo
18-11-2009, 08:48 AM
The fact that those pages are being taken down adds an enormous amount of weight to this.

zander
18-11-2009, 09:06 AM
I have posted the thread from Google Cache too. I think it's really important to have an individual's words on record, as they were spoken, to avoid the corruption introduced by paraphrasing as much as possible. :)

Nice one, thanks for posting that. :)
I can post the rest of what is on that thread. There are about 5 replies on there here.

This (http://www.who.int/csr/don/2009_11_03/en/index.html) is what the WHO are saying.

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Well that's strange. I was in Yalta, Balaclava and Odessa in late September, all in the Ukraine. I was on a cruise of the Black Sea and we called at Yalta and Odessa. The trip to Balaclava was one of the excursions from Yalta. I developed a sore throat which lead to a bought of Bronchitis which lasted well after I arrived home on 14th October. I was not alone as loads of people on board were coughing that awful chesty cough you get. I felt really quite ill on the ship for a few days. I thought I had a temperature so stayed in my cabin as I was too week to leave it quite frankly. I wonder if I had swine flu. We all thought it was the air con.

Before The Ukraine, while we were in Istanbul, we had to have our temperature taken before we left the ship in case we were carrying H1N1 as a precaution against the spread. I don't think anyone was stopped from going ashore however.

Ukrainians are having a rough time of it nowadays, since the collapse of the Soviet Union. A great shame in my view.

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Yes I know the Express is not the at the apex of journalistic excellence (usual headlines have Princess Diana spotted with new husband a Mr E Presley riding Shergar and dining with Lord Lucan) but I remember a buried paragraph in a 'broadsheet' & a short piece on Radio 4 about a delegation that went to Kiev re. this mystery virus...

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Reading the express article it seems that the lungs were blackened. I haven`t read any press reports on post mortems on swine flu but it would seem that this may be something else.

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Infectious disease expert Dr. Donald Lau explained that the chances of the Ukrainian pandemic being the same H1N1 virus that has infected the world are very low. “The statistical probability of this being the same H1N1 virus are infinitesimally small.” Dr. Lau stated that the high viral transmission rates are extremely unusual for H1N1 and there is almost certainly some type of new virus, or a lethal recombination that has occurred.

Dr. Lau speculated that the Ukraine government or the WHO may be withholding and/or suppressing information for some unknown reason. “There must have been some misrepresentation of actual deaths versus infection rates.” Dr. Lau has estimated the probable fatality rate of this new virus to be close to 0.5 percent which is astronomically higher than the H1N1 virus in any part of the world.

Ukrainian authorities on Sunday launched an urgent appeal for help from world powers after it imposed drastic measures to tackle a sudden surge of flu-like illness in the country.


I have just been reading this article which mentions the reports of ariel spraying in Ukraine. (http://www.infowars.com/deadly-flu-spreads-across-ukraine/)

I don't know if this is the same sort of thing or if it's connected, as spraying from helicopters would suggest that isolated areas are being targeted and I would have thought that helicopters would draw more attention. But as I mentioned earlier, I also would have thought more people would have been discussing this before now, so who knows?

Is there a place to find localized up to date numbers of swine flu related illness is the UK? It would be interesting to see if the numbers spiked after the first sightings of these helicopters in my area?

entrangermercenary
18-11-2009, 09:22 AM
These black helicopters are goverment helicopters they are extremely extremely quiet and the only thing you can barely hear is the rotor blades, i know i had one visit me regarding the ark of the covenant and it was about 12 meters above me.

They have overunity systems in them.

So thats where its buried in your back garden :rolleyes:

holylucifer
18-11-2009, 09:25 AM
So thats where its buried in your back garden :rolleyes:

:) No tara, ireland.

entrangermercenary
18-11-2009, 09:26 AM
I hope I am not being too paranoid here, after seeing this article (http://www.infowars.com/population-reduction-globalist-endgame-begins/), it would be easy to draw conclusions.

But basically I have had multiple people witness black helicopters with very little markings, spray equipment mounted, actively spaying over populated areas in the South West of the UK.
I was wondering if anyone on here has seen similar things elsewhere in the country?

I really do not want to start anyone panicking, no offense guy's, but I know that some people on here can get carried away and run with something like this and end up getting hysterical.

I am trying to think of a logical explanation for black helicopters to be spraying fine mists over populated areas, but right at this moment, I can't think of one?

If anyone has any ideas, please pitch in?

Once again please do not panic, it's probably nothing, but I thought the question was worth posting on here.


By the highlighted writing in your op if its happening a lot why havent you got a photo then??

joe btfsplk
18-11-2009, 09:28 AM
Are they spraying a Peace Gas to make us peaceful and laid back?

Research ~ H G Wells - Author - Fabian Society Member
~ George Orwell - Author - Fabian Society Member
~ Margaret Sanger - Author - Fabian Society Member with intimate relationship with H G Wells. She edited the book: Medical and Eugenic Aspects of Birth Control. Started the Birth Control Movement. You can enjoy a fascinating look at the real reasons for Birth Control if you search enough.
~ Beatrice Potter - Fabian Society Member - married to Sidney Webb - Fabian Society Member

In the 1936 film Wells with his knowledge of what was to come rains a "Peace Gas" down on opposing armies to send them to sleep so they can be captured. Only difference is "putting to sleep" is a euphemism like the one that we use when "putting down" or destroying a pet. Many such signs of the future plans have been released - usually by people pretending to be against whatever they have decided to tell us. They started telling us thousands of years ago but they now believe they cannot lose so have accelerated the process.

You Tube Videos ~ I can't see how to get them embedded on the site like the experts are doing!

Things to Come Trailer

Things to Come - Pt 1 of 10

Have a good day!:D

zander
18-11-2009, 10:02 AM
By the highlighted writing in your op if its happening a lot why havent you got a photo then??

Firstly to answer your question. I have not got a photo because when I first saw them flying around, I had not seen them spraying over populated areas, I thought it of interest but very quickly forgot about it until yesterday when my other half told me that she had seen them spraying over the town.

I don't tend to carry a camera with me at all times and don't own a mobile phone, so all I can offer at this time is eye witness accounts of what has been seen, which admittedly is not ideal but thats all I have, I will be carrying a camera with me from now on and will try to get a photo.

Now your tone (by making words bold i.e shouting) in this reply implies hostility, I suggest you don't do that, it's just not pleasant.

I put forward this information in good faith and I only thought to bring it to the attention of the guy's here as it would be be of interest to them. If it is not of interest then that is cool, I will stop posting on this thread and by all means leave it to go dead, as I have said, it makes no odd's to me. I have no agenda here but to inform of an incident that I and others have seen.

If I have read you wrong then I apologies for jumping on that, but I don't post on here unless I have something of worth to add to the conversation and I will not be baited into meaningless argument. If that starts then I will quit posting and leave the conversation.

I apologize again if I have read you wrong, but I don't react very well to hostility as your reply implied.

Peace

princessofwands
18-11-2009, 10:35 AM
Zander - thank you for the information:):):). I am in the South West too. The other morning, before it was light, I was awakened by what sounded like low-flying planes going over and over and I wondered what was going on.

Drink Green Tea to boost immune system, top up on Vits C & D, have some colloidal silver in your cupboard (from my local independant health store).

I wonder what's coming next, in view of this rather alarming report from much earlier in the year about some kind of biological toxin being shipped all over the US - early April in fact, well before this current round of Swine-flu - Ukrainian super-flu even started.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_influenza03.htm

rollotomaz1
18-11-2009, 10:36 AM
I hope I am not being too paranoid here, after seeing this article (http://www.infowars.com/population-reduction-globalist-endgame-begins/), it would be easy to draw conclusions.

But basically I have had multiple people witness black helicopters with very little markings, spray equipment mounted, actively spaying over populated areas in the South West of the UK.

I was wondering if anyone on here has seen similar things elsewhere in the country?

I really do not want to start anyone panicking, no offense guy's, but I know that some people on here can get carried away and run with something like this and end up getting hysterical.

I am trying to think of a logical explanation for black helicopters to be spraying fine mists over populated areas, but right at this moment, I can't think of one?

If anyone has any ideas, please pitch in?

Once again please do not panic, it's probably nothing, but I thought the question was worth posting on here.

I doub't they will do it here, we are right next to the biggest army garrison in Europe 150'000 troops and their families, there are blackhawks and appache flying around on a regular basis, paranoia comes to mind but never say never, or it will come up behind you and bite you in the ass.

I have never seen any chem trails either we are too far away from an airport and not on any flight paths, we are about 20 miles from the nearest airport.

Has anyone ever done any collection experiments and had them tested, this should be done in the effected areas then we will know what's in this, any takers on this ?

thelearner
18-11-2009, 11:12 AM
Zander excellent post mate!

Im in Essex, the police helicopters which seem to be, forever in the sky above, due to the high volume of crime i think, are noted as:
Stationed at: Standsted & Loughton
Call sign: India 99
Colour: Dark blue & bright yellow, easily identifiable.

However about two (2) weeks ago, i was out in the back garden at about 4.30pm, and heard a very loud sound of a helicopter, which seemed to be directly above us, from how loud it was, it wasnt, the noise continued for about 2/3 mins then my wife and i saw a completely black helicopter come straight over our house and continued for about a mile in a NE direction, then it started to come back SE direction towards our area, this continued for about 5 mins, back and fourth.:eek::eek:

It was NOT spraying, it did not have andy visable signs of any spraying equipment, but was deffinately not a usual police helicopter. What it was, i dont know, but it even made my wife take notice of it, she has no belief in anything out oftheordinary butwas completely engrossed in this..thing:confused:

I will keep looking for this to happen again and will add any information or pix that i am able to get.

Good work Zander:)

entrangermercenary
18-11-2009, 11:29 AM
Firstly to answer your question. I have not got a photo because when I first saw them flying around, I had not seen them spraying over populated areas, I thought it of interest but very quickly forgot about it until yesterday when my other half told me that she had seen them spraying over the town.

I don't tend to carry a camera with me at all times and don't own a mobile phone, so all I can offer at this time is eye witness accounts of what has been seen, which admittedly is not ideal but thats all I have, I will be carrying a camera with me from now on and will try to get a photo.

Now your tone (by making words bold i.e shouting) in this reply implies hostility, I suggest you don't do that, it's just not pleasant.

I put forward this information in good faith and I only thought to bring it to the attention of the guy's here as it would be be of interest to them. If it is not of interest then that is cool, I will stop posting on this thread and by all means leave it to go dead, as I have said, it makes no odd's to me. I have no agenda here but to inform of an incident that I and others have seen.

If I have read you wrong then I apologies for jumping on that, but I don't post on here unless I have something of worth to add to the conversation and I will not be baited into meaningless argument. If that starts then I will quit posting and leave the conversation.

I apologize again if I have read you wrong, but I don't react very well to hostility as your reply implied.

Peace


Hostile tones oh dear does that upset you then ?? The bold was to hightlight the point !!!

When I see a photo of said HELICOPTERS and you used the plural in your op inferring there was more than 1. If thats the case there should be quite a few photos around !!! Glad you have now got yourself a camera just in case !! Shouldnt take that long to get a photo if they are that prolific !!


Trouble is with this forum every time a jet , transporter or helicopter flies over and its military or black the world is about to explode in ww3 or they are up to no good.
The military practice all type of flights daily and in various locations. EG Where I live there is a Tv mast on a hill. The jets come down and practice bombing runs on this TV mast sometimes daily for a week or 2, then you may not see them for several months.
Sometimes 3-4 Herc's come across flying at an operational height in a row, or a Chinook comes flying over low, its called training or they are transporting A 2 B.
Be assured the forum will be first to know if any paras drop out of the Hercs or SAS abseil down from the chopper :D

As FOR black helicopters flying around I scan the skys with interest :) What was the weather like that day because if it was windy like 2day and raining well no spraying of any kind wd be any good as the dispersal rate due to wind factors wd of been no good if you wanted it on a specific location :eek:

entrangermercenary
18-11-2009, 11:36 AM
Zander excellent post mate!

Im in Essex, the police helicopters which seem to be, forever in the sky above, due to the high volume of crime i think, are noted as:
Stationed at: Standsted & Loughton
Call sign: India 99
Colour: Dark blue & bright yellow, easily identifiable.

However about two (2) weeks ago, i was out in the back garden at about 4.30pm, and heard a very loud sound of a helicopter, which seemed to be directly above us, from how loud it was, it wasnt, the noise continued for about 2/3 mins then my wife and i saw a completely black helicopter come straight over our house and continued for about a mile in a NE direction, then it started to come back SE direction towards our area, this continued for about 5 mins, back and fourth.:eek::eek:

It was NOT spraying, it did not have andy visable signs of any spraying equipment, but was deffinately not a usual police helicopter. What it was, i dont know, but it even made my wife take notice of it, she has no belief in anything out oftheordinary butwas completely engrossed in this..thing:confused:

I will keep looking for this to happen again and will add any information or pix that i am able to get.

Good work Zander:)

You do know they use helicopters to Map locations, check power lines and check on the people who post on this forum ;)

worlds beyond
18-11-2009, 06:02 PM
I saw 2 black military type helicopters twice in a week, this was a couple of weeks ago.
They "flu:eek:" along the beach line in Brighton, didn't see spying equipment;)

Hi,

I posted a few weeks ago about some unusual military flying over West Sussex coast, during daytime, but was pretty much derided for thinking it was anything unusual, even though we don't get this type of thing here.

Well, again, last week sometime, just before all the rain/winds, we once again had some military type helicopters doing the rounds. These aren't regular events around here. We're very near a small civil airfield, and on the pathways for Gatwick and some Heathrow traffic, so military activity rarely seen (apart from summer airshows).

Am not sure about any spraying, but they are definitely out of place in the 'normal' day to day run of things for this area.

snapdragon
18-11-2009, 06:45 PM
I was filmed by a black helicopter about 5 years ago. It was loud, flying fast and low and had no markings and everything was black. It looked expensive. It had a camera sphere on the front similar to a POLICE helicopter. It was very expertly flown in a figure of 8 with steep banking and very loud rotor slap. It was filming cars parked in a field, presumably in order to extract the vehicle registrations once back at base. It had no registration markings.

elixirsoo
18-11-2009, 08:00 PM
Hi,

I posted a few weeks ago about some unusual military flying over West Sussex coast, during daytime, but was pretty much derided for thinking it was anything unusual, even though we don't get this type of thing here.

Well, again, last week sometime, just before all the rain/winds, we once again had some military type helicopters doing the rounds. These aren't regular events around here. We're very near a small civil airfield, and on the pathways for Gatwick and some Heathrow traffic, so military activity rarely seen (apart from summer airshows).

Am not sure about any spraying, but they are definitely out of place in the 'normal' day to day run of things for this area.

I do live in an area where there is quite a bit of military helicopter activity, on a regular basis, which usually just 'blends' into the background. However this has changed over the last couple of months, with much lower flying, for long periods of time and a big increase in night time activity.

There was an increase in air and local ranges activity following the onset of the Afghanistan and Iraq campaigns, but this is totally different.

skylinenorwich
18-11-2009, 08:36 PM
I remember seeing this story in The Daily Mail, a few months ago - 'Helicopters blasting insecticide used to tackle mosquito threat to Britain'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1194176/Insecticide-helicopters-launched-deadly-swarm-mosquitoes-head-Britain.html

I am definately not saying that this is whats happening, just letting any interested peeps have a read - I have not personally seen any helicopters spraying, even the planes seem fewer this year :D.

worlds beyond
18-11-2009, 11:11 PM
I do live in an area where there is quite a bit of military helicopter activity, on a regular basis, which usually just 'blends' into the background. However this has changed over the last couple of months, with much lower flying, for long periods of time and a big increase in night time activity.


There was an increase in air and local ranges activity following the onset of the Afghanistan and Iraq campaigns, but this is totally different.

yes, night time helicopter activity has been happening quite a lot here too in recent weeks, even my partner has noticed and commented on it. Along the beach and along the South downs area... and nope, it's not the police or coastguard.. I've checked! :)

reader698
18-11-2009, 11:57 PM
There's also this reported on theflucase.Unusual plane or helicopter activity tonight.

http://theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1867%3Alow-flying-planes-reported-in-the-uk-and-poland-tonight&catid=41%3Ahighlighted-news&Itemid=105&lang=en

http://theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1868%3Aunusual-aircraft-activity-reported-in-poland-and-the-uk-&catid=41%3Ahighlighted-news&Itemid=105&lang=en

"There seems to be something going on in derby uk the last 2nights kept me awake last night low flying either helicopters or planes it is earlier tonight started 11ish and it was 3 till 5 am this morning ? we took a picture from our phone tonight i will get my husband to send it to you shortly. it is a helicopter tonight looking over the grounds with lights at first it looked like it was spraying with the tensity of the light .but i do hear another either plane or helicopter flying around its still going ´....ps close to our house at the moment," email from Derby resident.

"Also above Warsaw (now!) There is a report from near Okecie (Airport) that for 25 minuts large propeller plane is flying circles, The plane is quite low. There are no planes departing Okecie at this time. It is the first time our reader heard such a plane for for long time," email from Poland.

freepeace
18-11-2009, 11:58 PM
How strange. I saw a black helicopter flying back and forth with a white/cream coloured compartment slung down behind the main pilots enclosure yesterday (17th November) in Exeter. It struck me as odd because I regularly see the blue and yellow Devon and Cornwall Police Helicopter and the red Air Ambulance. The helicopter I saw yesterday was a new feature in the city sky as far as I'm concerned.

It was neither of these:
Police helicopter and Devon Air Ambulance helicopter - YouTube

I'll take a camera out with me from now on and post if it returns

cleopatraxxx
19-11-2009, 12:02 AM
Maybe they're just spraying the cities here in the UK and leaving the towns?

well, presently i live in a village inside a town within a city called Bradford! since i arrived in the UK in 2007 i have seen and thousand sof pics taken almost daily. my hubby thought in the beguining i was mental by taking so many pics, then he started to agree with me...
but that is just to say that may be you neutrino are simply lucky not to see any spraying in your area?
i would like to add that due to my hubbies profession we travel loads and the photos i have are from all over, from the country sides to towns and villages, lots near air bases. it also includes Scotland and Wales. i am very surprised to hear that some area has not been covered either by chemtrails or HAARP.

but it is good to hear that neutrino. Do you look at the sky for a long time already and do you do it on a daily baisis like I personally have done, not just in the UK, but since 2002 in Africa, when i first learnt about HAARP and Chmetriails?

cleopatraxxx
19-11-2009, 12:05 AM
yes, night time helicopter activity has been happening quite a lot here too in recent weeks, even my partner has noticed and commented on it. Along the beach and along the South downs area... and nope, it's not the police or coastguard.. I've checked! :)

could have to do with preparations (training stage) on removing people to concetration camps in the coming "pandemic" times... ????
when things ahppen at night when majority of people work during day times, it becomes very "STRANGE", the least... i would be very suspicious and paying attention to this as close as i could. if i only lived in an area like that, i would " silently crawl" out of home to go and investigate! and try to prove myself wrong... i hate having doubts of that nature.

Cleo

garyhartill
19-11-2009, 02:30 PM
that is exactly what i saw over st helens , uk:mad:

anthony1965
19-11-2009, 02:50 PM
I've not seen no chemtrails let alone any black helicopters. I'm not worried.

Fellowship of the Awakened? :rolleyes:

No chemtrails? :confused:

No black helicopters? :confused:

You haven't been trying! ;)

mystic nomad
19-11-2009, 03:10 PM
Over the last few months I and most people I talk to have noticed the large increase in aerial traffic round here, especially low flying helicopters and light aircraft. Someone pointed out to me that the increase in light aircraft is merely the "recreational" pilots trying to get their flying hours in before the end of the year?

The horsey people are getting fed up and I think a few have contacted the MOD about it.

I see these low a couple of times a day for the last couple of months. Would appear to be black at a distance.

http://www.passaero.info/wiki/_media/avion:puma:puma-reel1.jpg

Haven't seen any spraying though, will ask around about that.

jesuitsdidit
19-11-2009, 04:10 PM
Haven't seen any spraying though, will ask around about that.

i very much doubt the spraying would be noticeable
i dont think they r that stupid..

mystic nomad
19-11-2009, 04:30 PM
i very much doubt the spraying would be noticeable
i dont think they r that stupid..

Don't take this the wrong way but have you read this thread?

morning
19-11-2009, 05:29 PM
Also in the South West. There are helicopters each night at the moment, especially before and after sunset. They seem to hang around for a long time. For now I don't want to make any assumptions about their activity.

entrangermercenary
19-11-2009, 05:41 PM
Over the last few months I and most people I talk to have noticed the large increase in aerial traffic round here, especially low flying helicopters and light aircraft. Someone pointed out to me that the increase in light aircraft is merely the "recreational" pilots trying to get their flying hours in before the end of the year?

The horsey people are getting fed up and I think a few have contacted the MOD about it.

I see these low a couple of times a day for the last couple of months. Would appear to be black at a distance.

http://www.passaero.info/wiki/_media/avion:puma:puma-reel1.jpg

Haven't seen any spraying though, will ask around about that.

Pumas, they do look black from a distance as well !!!!!! :rolleyes:


http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.da.mod.uk/da-news/fireworks-2007/puma.jpg/image_preview&imgrefurl=http://www.da.mod.uk/da-news/fireworks-2007/puma.jpg/view&h=285&w=400&sz=25&tbnid=lUcIRScmQYr6rM:&tbnh=88&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dpicture%2Bof%2Bpuma%2Bhelicopter&hl=en-GB&usg=__DOY2snhKJIHcvGAPEunTCoEgJVE=&ei=cYIFS8LENYfl4QaEtdDCCw&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=2&ct=image&ved=0CAwQ9QEwAQ

godspeed
19-11-2009, 05:41 PM
2-3am helicopters over south glasgow

was half here and half etheral plane but they were loud

and steady for good hour or so

what the f going down....us

entrangermercenary
19-11-2009, 05:46 PM
2-3am helicopters over south glasgow

was half here and half etheral plane but they were loud

and steady for good hour or so

what the f going down....us

Thats the Iron bru coming in :)

jesuitsdidit
19-11-2009, 06:32 PM
Don't take this the wrong way but have you read this thread?

yr point is?

elixirsoo
19-11-2009, 06:44 PM
Pumas, they do look black from a distance as well !!!!!! :rolleyes:



The Westland Puma HC.1s are with the RAF and used for transport.

Any RAF in your area mysticnomad?

btw entrangermercenary, feeling a bit bored are we...? :D

entrangermercenary
19-11-2009, 07:21 PM
The Westland Puma HC.1s are with the RAF and used for transport.

Any RAF in your area mysticnomad?

btw entrangermercenary, feeling a bit bored are we...? :D

Bored ?? :)

the nine
19-11-2009, 07:22 PM
yr point is?

the threads posts describe how they have seen black helicopters spraying over cities in day light, with the spraying equipment clearly visible..

hope this helps..

wacaday
19-11-2009, 07:37 PM
i saw two over torquay on sunday 15th, not sure if they were spraying anything, but they were black and once they came in from the bay over the urban area the took slightly different paths but in the same general direction. could just be paranioa, i am fine, but i have a very strong immune system, (Raw Vegan, good excercise etc) however my wife, who eats meat ect is not well at all this week, and my daughter has had a cough and bad chest since last week,(though she is on the mend now)

mystic nomad
19-11-2009, 07:57 PM
The Westland Puma HC.1s are with the RAF and used for transport.

Any RAF in your area mysticnomad?



Yep, plenty of RAF around here, I just wanted to point out that military helicopters look black even up to a couple of hundred feet away.

billybleach
15-04-2010, 08:26 PM
On Junc 13 of the M1 I waved at one as it took off and the pilot waved back, it was that close! :D I'm not sure if it was the same one, probably, but they were coming and going all day. They fly very low over Junc27 of the M25 as well!!! :eek:

largejack
15-04-2010, 08:27 PM
Shame it hasn't worked on me and my love life then :( :D

I don't know, your avatar looks like it's had plenty! :D