Advice - Vitamin D or D3?

[loopy2222]

I am wanting to take up peoples advice and start taking Vitamins D & C but do I take vitamin D or D3? I'm not sure what the difference is nor how much I should take to be honest :confused:

Any help or suggestions would be gratefully received :)

[loopy2222]

Also, if anyone can suggest where to buy some from in the UK I'd be grateful as I have had a look and it all looks so expensive!

[mikelambert]

I am wanting to take up peoples advice and start taking Vitamins D & C but do I take vitamin D or D3? I'm not sure what the difference is nor how much I should take to be honest :confused:

Any help or suggestions would be gratefully received :)

Vit D3 is in my view the one you want. When you expose your skin to natural sunlight your body metabolism converts cholesterol into the hormone Vit D3. (This opens up a whole can of worms regarding the dominant view that cholesterol is bad for us. Oddly enough 75% of all those who die of sudden heart failure have normal levels of cholesterol, and a major role of cholesterol is the repair of heart muscle tissue !!)
This according to many researchers is why people living in the southern hemisphere appear to have greater survival rates in cancer than those in the northern hemisphere. Sunlight in appropriate levels of exposure is the greatest source of health in my view. I think we get a bit obsessed with diets and active ingredients of southern european health promoting foods, when the overwhelming advantage that these countries seem to have is good amounts of consistent sunshine. This is just an opinion of course.

[loopy2222]

Thanks Mike :)

[soppi]

I get vitamin D3 from Nature's Plus, they do 2500iu per day capsules for about £15.
You can get it from various places, I get it from yourhealthfoodstore.co.uk. I took the same strength 1 tablet a day all last winter and this year, so far no colds or flu.

[soppi]

the capsules last about 3 months, so it seems expensive at first, but works out only about a fiver a month. Small price to pay for health I reckon.

[stickwhistler]

5,000 i.u. x 120 capsules for £8.95 + p&p.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230383180064

[danster82]

Apparently you must take D3 and you want to take much larger doses than is recommened, about 5000UI per day. I ordered this just yesterday

1 x Healthy Origins Vitamin D3 5000 IU 360 Softgel Capsules (HO-02879) = £9.03

Superb price yet its not sold in England so I had to stupid price delivery on it.

[soppi]

5,000 i.u. x 120 capsules for £8.95 + p&p.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230383180064

Thats really good value, I'll keep this in mind when I run out. thanks:)

[tenzingnorgay]

You don't need to take it every day. You also want to make sure that you are getting enough vitamin A if you are taking D.

[stickwhistler]

Also found this vit D product.

360 x 5,000IU for £14.95 + p&p of £1.62 = total £16.57.

http://bigvits.co.uk/product.asp?pid=222&bid=8

[ozpixie]

Vit D3 is in my view the one you want. When you expose your skin to natural sunlight your body metabolism converts cholesterol into the hormone Vit D3. (This opens up a whole can of worms regarding the dominant view that cholesterol is bad for us. Oddly enough 75% of all those who die of sudden heart failure have normal levels of cholesterol, and a major role of cholesterol is the repair of heart muscle tissue !!)
This according to many researchers is why people living in the southern hemisphere appear to have greater survival rates in cancer than those in the northern hemisphere. Sunlight in appropriate levels of exposure is the greatest source of health in my view. I think we get a bit obsessed with diets and active ingredients of southern european health promoting foods, when the overwhelming advantage that these countries seem to have is good amounts of consistent sunshine. This is just an opinion of course.

I agree totally and I have D3 on hand if I feel something coming on. 5,000 units per day see me right plus a few other things, depending on the situation. Australian readers also need to know that it will not be available when existing stocks run out (I was told this by a local chemist).

[loopy2222]

You don't need to take it every day. You also want to make sure that you are getting enough vitamin A if you are taking D.

ooh I'll look into this too thanks :)

[soleil]

Thanks for this. I wanted to know the answer too as I typed in 'Vitamin D' into Holland and Barrett's site and it only came up with D3.

[phfaty]

I would recommend you read more about D3 before you start taking it. Understand first what it does for your body and how it does it. Many people take multivitamins daily without knowing exactly how it benefits or affects their bodies. This is no different than taking an unmarked bottle of pills and swallowing a couple without knowing what the pills are.

[jay002]

http://www.naturesremedy.co.uk/page/vitamin_d_140.cfm

[mikelambert]

You don't need to take it every day. You also want to make sure that you are getting enough vitamin A if you are taking D.

Vitamin A helps maintain healthy eyes, skin,and bone. It is essential for cell division - which means renewal, so it is best you get your Vit A the natural way - fruits and veg, such as carrots, red peppers, sweet potatoes etc.
Your body regulates plant based Vit A by absorbing it slowly and flushing it out before it becomes toxic. Other types of Vit A from animal sources such as liver , giblets and supplements can build up in your system and become toxic. You need to limit these types which are called Preformed Vit A.

We learnt at the Shen a long time ago that not all makes of supplements are the same (we test individual makes on all our patients before we allow them to take them) where possible we encourage natural supplies from nature.

If you are going to supplement then the Beta Carotene based ones are probably better. DO NOT TAKE MORE THAN 2500 - 3000 IU max. daily

[blue2]

Take a read on www.detoxyourworld.com as Shazzie explains and she has some good multi vit capsules on there. Vit D given by NHS does not absorb-all that doctors give is synthetics. Then there is Dr Mercola.There is D3 and D2. Shouldn't take just one vit alone but multi vits mins and vits do not absorb without minerals. Ionic is my favourite.

It's Homocysteine levels that are cause with heart attacks. But also people may have hypothyroidism and that causes heart irregularities. For anyone wanting to buy in from USA try being a member of www.myus.com

[tesla]

Hi

I get all my vitamins & Chlorella from the iherb.com in the US..

I got 180 5000ui D3 for about a fiver last month. Took about a week to come..

Cant beat them on price imo

I buy in bulk, so that makes them cheaper, & if ya parcel weight less than 3lbs, delivery to the uk is cheap also (about 3 quid)

Check here for yourself > http://www.iherb.com/Search?kw=d3

[tesla]

Watch this too. If you haven't already . .


Gabriele Stähler on Vitamin D3, with Bill Ryan : a Project Camelot interview - YouTube

[apricot]

I think we get a bit obsessed with diets and active ingredients of southern european health promoting foods, when the overwhelming advantage that these countries seem to have is good amounts of consistent sunshine. This is just an opinion of course.

I agree with you - I've been noticing the benefits of sunlight recently. I also read that sunblock isn't at all good and it made sense to me - I've often felt it just clogs up the pores. And also the Bates technique for improving eyesight recommends short exposure to sunshine every day to help bring new blood and lymph to the eyes - I've been trying it and I can vouch for the fact that it's beneficial :)

[mikelambert]

5,000 i.u. x 120 capsules for £8.95 + p&p.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230383180064

When you buy nutrition you usually get what you pay for. Cheaper makes can contain poor quality ingredients, and some expensive makes may not necessarily deliver the goods either, although in theory they are better. Herein lies the dilemma. Using nutrition clinically as we do you certainly learn fast that not all nutrition is the same, and that includes single vitamins too. A lot of vitamins on sale are synthetic, they are in actual fact man made. We only recommend the use of supplements where a poor nutritional diet is indicated, or, where there may be a obvious deficiency in food due to industrial farming. On top of this if you have a poor digestive system (an estimated 80% of people in the UK) then you may only extract a minimal amount of the compounds. Supplements can't replace good quality food and the nutrients contained within it.
I suppose one of the factors you learn from this is to keep your digestive track in good order. If you do this you should improve your immune system and therefore have more resistance to disease, more energy etc. You might consider going to naturopharma.com. Remember food is fuel. Try putting some rubbish grade petrol in your car and see how it goes. Further to this strip the engine down and see the damage including excessive wear and tear that goes with it.
These are only my views of course.

[nirvana]

google {big vit}

I get my D3 from there £26 for years supply d3 10,000 iu

High dose and the cheapest ive ever found on the net.:)


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[haycock]

I am wanting to take up peoples advice and start taking Vitamins D & C but do I take vitamin D or D3? I'm not sure what the difference is nor how much I should take to be honest :confused:

Any help or suggestions would be gratefully received :)

Depends on what you need, take D3 for lesser depressive conditions.. the best way to get d3 is the sun, expose as much of your skin to get the best result. if not possible with large amount of sunshin like at the northside of the globe. oraly you should take D3 in an oilbased pill. FAt fish like mackerel or greenland halibut.

Heres your comming god on that subject ;)


http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2007/08/24/lack-of-sunshine-causes-600-000-cancers-a-year.aspx

cant find the video now but search this side - mercola side


http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/03/16/warning-new-proof-confirms-if-you-take-this-supplement-vitamin-d-will-not-work-as-well.aspx

[mikelambert]

Depends on what you need, take D3 for lesser depressive conditions.. the best way to get d3 is the sun, expose as much of your skin to get the best result. if not possible with large amount of sunshin like at the northside of the globe. oraly you should take D3 in an oilbased pill. FAt fish like mackerel or greenland halibut.

Heres your comming god on that subject ;)


http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2007/08/24/lack-of-sunshine-causes-600-000-cancers-a-year.aspx

cant find the video now but search this side - mercola side


http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/03/16/warning-new-proof-confirms-if-you-take-this-supplement-vitamin-d-will-not-work-as-well.aspx

Before you rush out and buy/take loads of Vit D / D3 you have to establish that you are deficient. Just because there is a possibility or even a probability that there is a lack of this generally within the population, it may be an assumption that we all are. Usually Vit A is taken with it but be careful as Vit A supplements can build up in the body and be harmful. We use testing, and not all people indicate a deficiency.

[mikelambert]

I am wanting to take up peoples advice and start taking Vitamins D & C but do I take vitamin D or D3? I'm not sure what the difference is nor how much I should take to be honest :confused:

Any help or suggestions would be gratefully received :)

It is thought that Vit D deficiency is one of the most common medical conditions and is probably the cheapest to treat. Vit D is known as the sunshine vitamin because most of our Vit D is made by the action of Ultraviolet B Radiation on Cholesterol in the skin. Very little comes from food or supplements. You should try and get 20 mins per day of sunshine contact on the skin if possible. Those spending all day inside seem to suffer the highest levels of deficiency. We also get patients to sit in the sunshine for 20 mins for other conditions too. If you wear glasses take them off (if it is safe to do so) because many therapeutic benefits of sunshine enter through the eyes, and many lenses inhibit this action. Never look directly into the sun. Ever.

[mikelambert]

I am wanting to take up peoples advice and start taking Vitamins D & C but do I take vitamin D or D3? I'm not sure what the difference is nor how much I should take to be honest :confused:

Any help or suggestions would be gratefully received :)

The main culprits for depletion and blocking the Vit D mechanism are: Meat - Dairy - Calcium. Eating a plant based diet seems to be the way to go if it suits.

[mikelambert]

I am wanting to take up peoples advice and start taking Vitamins D & C but do I take vitamin D or D3? I'm not sure what the difference is nor how much I should take to be honest :confused:

Any help or suggestions would be gratefully received :)

You will not extract significant or even useable amounts of Vit D from supplements or food, in my view. It has to come from 20 min. per day of sunlight on your skin. Sunlight converts cholesterol via the metabolism into the Hormone Vit D3. As you are probably aware, when this hormone is depleted many aspects of our physical and mental health and feelings of wellness can deteriorate dramatically. Light and Photon reactions on the processes of health, and life itself can be remarkable. This has been a major part of my research for over 30 years, and it will continue to be for a very long time to come. A lot of my work relating to this in the 80's was ridiculed, but now the same people want to desperately get their hands on those papers.

[cochinada]

Hi,

This is my first participation on the forum, so I would like to say hello to everybody and apologize if my English is not that good as I'm from Portugal.

Now, I've read this thread with great interest, specially the opinion that supplementing with Vitamin D3 is not very efficient which I didn't know. So I would like to have your thoughts about the study bellow:

"New research shows vitamin D slashes risk of cancers by 77 percent; cancer industry refuses to support cancer prevention"

http://www.naturalnews.com/021892.html#ixzz17RSV4MMZ

Thank you!

[soppi]

I think supplementation is considered not so good when you don't really know how much to take. Sunshine is obviously best as your body only absorbs what it needs and no more. Dr. Mercola's site is very informative about vitamin D:

http://vitamind.mercola.com/