McCann charged with 'accidental murder'

[brotherapostate]

Kate McCann, according to Sky News, is going to be charged with the accidental murder of Madeline McCann.

[phildee3]

Kate McCann, according to Sky News, is going to be charged with the accidental murder of Madeline McCann.

Accidental murder?? If it was at her own hands, wouldn't it be manslaughter (at worst)?
Then it must have been at the hands of those she trusted.

[phoebe]

Hmmm....
Traces of Madeleine's blood apparently
Found in a rental car that the McCanns hired
25 days after her disappearance.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,70131-1283158,00.html

Blood?
Accidental death???
There's no such thing as accidental murder.
Would be manslaughter.

Of course, no matter what happens...
Conspiracy theorists will say
That Kate is being used as a scapegoat
For the satanic/illuminati/paedo-cannibal abductors.

[brotherapostate]

Thats what I thought, surely manslaughter?

Take a look at sky.com

I have always thought that the husband was a dodgy git anyway. I know this is speculation, but I wouldn't be surprised if he framed her and killed the kid because he found out that it wasn't his.

[phoebe]

Well if these blood traces are for real:
That there is blood involved would indicate
That there was actual violence involved
Rather than an accidental overdose of some kind.
(Not that dosing a child with sleeping pills is a good thing
But if there's blood involved it seems likely that
She met a more violent end and at the hands of
People she trusted and loved and that would be terrible.)

:(

[phildee3]

Of course, no matter what happens...
Conspiracy theorists will say
That Kate is being used as a scapegoat
For the satanic/illuminati/paedo-cannibal abductors.

Is there any other scenario that makes as much sense?

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

What I don't get, is the "25 days after" part of it.

Do they mean they only searched the car 25 days after she went missing, or do they mean that they searched the car again, and found traces of blood inside 25 days after?

[danielg]

Exactly how they managed to avoid the worlds press and carry a body in a hire car 25 days into the 'show' is a mystery. Interesting that the mother is a fucking zombie, like a MKUltra victim, her husband does all the talking, yet she's the one getting charged... why not him too?

[bazzybazzy]

this sounds a bit crazy - 'accidental murder' hmmm...
no doubt we'll get more details on it later on and tommorrow. (and the next few weeks probally!)

[tinmenace]

What I don't get is how can the father support this?

Are they saying that they went to dinner after the murder? All calm? Eat, drink, be merry, just after murdering their daughter? After all, witnesses did put them in the restaurant when they said they were there. So WTF??

This doesn't sound right. Maybe Kate is taking the fall for something a lot bigger than what meets the eye.

[peachped]

Maybe they overdosed the poor lass accidently.

The blood coming from her falling out of bed.

The McCanns on finding her realise they could be struck off as gp's and scandalised...so they make up a story.

[synergy777]

i said from the start the mums vibes/eyes had me thinking she was covering up, she was too calm etc. lok at the the mum of rhys/everton, she was weeping, this one was too media savvy etc. then again, maddy rest in peace, i hope the police are right, and not just fitting the mum up because they "need" someone. the tourist industry is big buisness in that area, and they need to restore faith.

[gizmocrystal]

Maybe they overdosed the poor lass accidently.

The blood coming from her falling out of bed.

The McCanns on finding her realise they could be struck off as gp's and scandalised...so they make up a story.



This is what im thinking:(

[synergy777]

the dna tests were from english forensics, i can't believe any of this at the moment, its shocking. they are educated, middle class, medical professionals, and, well you don't want to jump to conclusions, but if they did do it its fucked. still, we must maintain the stance of innocent until proven guilty , no matter how emotionally charged this case is.

[strider]

straight away I knew there was something very fishy.

As someone mentioned in another thread, and what I have said since day one of this happening, is that it is happening all over the world, hundreds of thousands of kids are disappearing week by week and hardly a thing is spoken.

Kate Mcann looks like a zombie and it wouldn't surprise me one bit if it transpired that she was mind controlled (God bless her soul), but who knows if we'll ever find the truth of it.

The thing that really sickened me was the poster. It had the picture of Madeline where it looks like her pupil has 'spilt' and it says 'look into my eyes'. Strangely, the 'spilt' bit of pupil would fall on 7 on a clock, and the main headline was.......wait for it..... Missing Madeline Mcann... hmmm

[mada88]

MM http://ben-fairhall.blogspot.com/

[jinjo5]

Hmmm....
Traces of Madeleine's blood apparently
Found in a rental car that the McCanns hired
25 days after her disappearance.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,70131-1283158,00.html

Blood?
Accidental death???
There's no such thing as accidental murder.
Would be manslaughter.

Of course, no matter what happens...
Conspiracy theorists will say
That Kate is being used as a scapegoat
For the satanic/illuminati/paedo-cannibal abductors.
True,no matter what happens,whatever the outcome.....the satanists mob will always believe it is that.
I suppose its more exciting for them to believe that than any ol' common or garden abduction.

[magicmerlin]

Jinjo you shouldn't discount anything......a few days ago people were suggesting this could never have been the parents, this whole case gets stranger by the day - also why has David Icke NEVER mentioned this whole scenario on the headlines?

This all seems to be working to bring this case firmly back in the into the public 'eye', there is something so wrong with all this......if this little girl is found alive, she will be famous. If and lets pray this is not the case her body is found, there will be the biggest ever public funeral, and we know what they may signify.

[phoebe]

Is there any other scenario that makes as much sense?

Phil
None of this makes sense to me.
Any of the possible scenarios are all too horrible to contemplate.
However...
Most people who are murdered
Are murdered by someone they know.
Most children that are abducted
Are abducted by someone they know.
I'm not saying that elite don't murder people
But most people who are murdered are not murdered
By the elite (unless you count war casualities).

I have intuited from the start of this
That the parents were involved.
This appears now to be the case.
It is also the simplest and most likely explanation.
(Occam's Razor)

My original point was that
Regardless of the truth of the matter
Someone, somewhere is gonna call the 'official line' bullshit.
Even if the truth, or something close to the truth
Is revealed to us via the media etc
Will you believe it?

Madeleine is by all appearances, dead.
Poor child, bless her heart.

[phoebe]

Jinjo you shouldn't discount anything......a few days ago people were suggesting this could never have been the parents, this whole case gets stranger by the day - also why has David Icke NEVER mentioned this whole scenario on the headlines?

This all seems to be working to bring this case firmly back in the into the public 'eye', there is something so wrong with all this......if this little girl is found alive, she will be famous. If and lets pray this is not the case her body is found, there will be the biggest ever public funeral, and we know what they may signify.

I don't read Icke headlines
But if it's true he has never mentioned this case...
That is very strange indeed.

Don't you believe that anything
Has a mundane explanation?
Do you attribute that much power to the elite?
It's a sad fact that children to get murdered/abducted
And as I said before, 99% of the time it's by someone they know.
Why attach any more significance to this than that?
People (including parents) can be complete arseholes.
No need for government involvement.
At all.

[jinjo5]

Jinjo you shouldn't discount anything......a few days ago people were suggesting this could never have been the parents, this whole case gets stranger by the day - also why has David Icke NEVER mentioned this whole scenario on the headlines?

This all seems to be working to bring this case firmly back in the into the public 'eye', there is something so wrong with all this......if this little girl is found alive, she will be famous. If and lets pray this is not the case her body is found, there will be the biggest ever public funeral, and we know what they may signify.
.....no magic,you shouldnt discount anything,but some things are a lot more easily discountable than others.

[phildee3]

Even if the truth, or something close to the truth
Is revealed to us via the media etc
Will you believe it?

How will we know what is the truth?

Madeleine is by all appearances, dead.

"Timothy Leary's dead.
No no no no he's outside looking in." (THE MOODY BLUES)

So is Madeline.

My scenerio is the "least horrible" to contemplate. In fact, it is the most beautiful possible. But it contains an element which is just too unpalitable for most people.
She is not only in the glorious otherworld/heaven, but is deified as MM - the feminine Christ. During her last days as little Maddy, she was treated to the best time of her life! She was very happy then as she is now.

I neither claim my story to be fact nor fiction.
That is for you to decide.

[pedsi]

why all the exitement about the latset news......just another day in the life of this media circus imo.

[phoebe]

How will we know what is the truth?

"Timothy Leary's dead.
No no no no he's outside looking in." (THE MOODY BLUES)

So is Madeline.

My scenerio is the "least horrible" to contemplate. In fact, it is the most beautiful possible. But it contains an element which is just too unpalitable for most people.
She is not only in the glorious otherworld/heaven, but is deified as MM - the feminine Christ. During her last days as little Maddy, she was treated to the best time of her life! She was very happy then as she is now.

I neither claim my story to be fact nor fiction.
That is for you to decide.

We won't know the truth.
Someone somewhere knows it
But it's not us.
I'm sorry but I don't agree that your scenario is least horrible.
You think that being the subject of a ritual sacrifice is good?
Maybe I misunderstand you, but it appears
That's where you're coming from.

[phoebe]

why all the exitement about the latset news......just another day in the life of this media circus imo.

Yeah... on one level.
On another level...
There are people on this board
Including myself
Who are feeling for this girl
Whatever the truth behind the matter.

[phildee3]

You think that being the subject of a ritual sacrifice is good?
Maybe I misunderstand you, but it appears
That's where you're coming from.

No, Phoebe. I do not approve of, or condone, ritual sacrifice.
I look at it as an anthropological fact, - purely objectively.

[phildee3]

You think that being the subject of a ritual sacrifice is good?
Maybe I misunderstand you, but it appears
That's where you're coming from.

From her point of view, according to my scenario, it wasn't "bad" because it was joyful.

[phoebe]

From her point of view, according to my scenario, it wasn't "bad" because it was joyful.

Oooookay. :confused:

[cruise4]

However...
Most people who are murdered
Are murdered by someone they know.
Most children that are abducted
Are abducted by someone they know.

I might have posted this 6 months ago... but now we don't know this is true at all. Its certainly presented that way, but perhaps thats exactly what they want us to think... and now, of course, its the first thing we think.

Both named as formal suspects... thats all.
That will effectively quiet the whole thing down.
Its a suppression tactic.

[cruise4]

This thread is bullshit. It hasn't happened.

Now Bush has a comment about it... that makes it even more likely its a peadophile cover-up.

Where is she. Thats the important thing.

[indigo]

This case is so strange. Probably because the public have been kept in the dark and coming to all sorts of conclusions because of the convinient secrecy laws in portugal.

So they found blood in the mccanns hire car, this car was hired 25 days after the girl went missing. Did the sniffer dogs smell death or just blood? If it was just blood then it ties in with my mad theory, that Madeleine is still alive and the mccanns are visiting her and scamming everyone out of money for some purpose or someone elses. Makes me wonder about that daily mail pic even more (the girl standing behind the car)

I just don't buy their stories. Everytime Kate speaks, her fecking husband Gerry always butts in incase she gives the game away:rolleyes:

I also wonder if the blood was a set up, so they will be made suspects, then charged, then sue for even more money to go in the mcscams pot.

[brotherapostate]

What hasn't happened?

[cruise4]

They haven't been charged with anything.

[brotherapostate]

Point taken, but tonight probably so.

[phoebe]

It says that the Portugese police,
After naming someone as formal suspect
Have 10 days to charge them.

[phildee3]

She is not only in the glorious otherworld/heaven, but is deified as MM - the feminine Christ.

After posting this yesterday, it occurred to me that it would take three, matrilineal generations to prepare for this ritual.
Then, on BBC radio 4 this morning, they said that Maddie's blood has been found on Kate's mother's bible!!

[jinjo5]

After posting this yesterday, it occurred to me that it would take three, matrilineal generations to prepare for this ritual.
Then, on BBC radio 4 this morning, they said that Maddie's blood has been found on Kate's mother's bible!!
ha,ha,ha....that is quite funny in a bad sense......can this case get any sillier?
...got a feeling it will,next please!:mad:

[anoninnyc]

ok so i don't understand how the blood could have gotten into the car 25 days after her disappearance. at that point they were being watched by both police and media so could not have tried to dispose of a body at that stage. it just doesn't add up, of course i am in the states and not following as closely as many of you brits. so please give me some explanation for this.

[phildee3]

ok so i don't understand how the blood could have gotten into the car 25 days after her disappearance. at that point they were being watched by both police and media so could not have tried to dispose of a body at that stage. it just doesn't add up, of course i am in the states and not following as closely as many of you brits. so please give me some explanation for this.

Again - it was taken to the car in a vial.
I cannot say when, nor the nature of this container, nor the purpose that it was taken there. Maybe someone else can imagine the answer to these questions...

[phildee3]

ok so i don't understand how the blood could have gotten into the car 25 days after her disappearance. at that point they were being watched by both police and media so could not have tried to dispose of a body at that stage. it just doesn't add up...

We're supposed to believe that they hid the body for that length of time, then hired the car to move it to somewhere more concealed, - when they thought the coast was clear. But, as you say, this doesn't add up.
This makes the most likely reason that the vial was taken to the car was to frame them. But I've got a feeling that this is just a more subtle diversion...

[anoninnyc]

We're supposed to believe that they hid the body for that length of time, then hired the car to move it to somewhere more concealed, - when they thought the coast was clear. But, as you say, this doesn't add up.
This makes the most likely reason that the vial was taken to the car was to frame them. But I've got a feeling that this is just a more subtle diversion...

that is so stupid sounding. thanks for the update though, and these madeleine threads get so long, can't read all the way through them.

bet the pope feels stupid now, for meeting with a child killer!

[phildee3]

bet the pope feels stupid now, for meeting with a child killer!

unless he was complicit...

[anoninnyc]

unless he was complicit...

yes, you have a valid point. the whole thing is so strange, not quite sure what to make of any of it.

[dondaz]

ok so i don't understand how the blood could have gotten into the car 25 days after her disappearance. at that point they were being watched by both police and media so could not have tried to dispose of a body at that stage. it just doesn't add up...

This makes the most likely reason that the vial was taken to the car was to frame them. But I've got a feeling that this is just a more subtle diversion...

Not sure if it was the same time, but if it was, the diversion could have been when all the media and police attention was put on that bloke. They would have had enough time to take the girl or someone plant the blood then.

This has all the hall marks of a black op. Plot and plot again. It's a circus, with lots of little side shows that are designed to make you look the other way.

If anyone hasn't read the article mada88 linked I suggest you do so. It's a cracking read: MM http://ben-fairhall.blogspot.com/ (http://ben-fairhall.blogspot.com/)

[cruise4]

Good find Dondaz. It seems every time there is something happening we maybe 'should' be looking at, our interest is diverted into some fear mongering farce. Its a continual theme throughout this NWO lark. I'm getting more and more convinced that the TV needs turning off for good.

But then the Rugby World Cup is on, and Football and...

Bottom line is I am starting to make the effort to turn it off. The situation demands this.

[notaslave]

The news outlets are reporting that the Find Madeleine fund is to be used as a fighting fund for the McCanns. hmm, I wonder what those who paid into think of that.

[matrixcutter]

The Times has already used this little girl to promote the implanted microchip. More of this sort of thing will follow.
Would an implanted chip help to keep my child safe? (http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/families/article1788169.ece)

For more information on the microchip agenda - see Alan Watt's mp3s and transcripts (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6117) and the articles (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8491) in the Big Brother/Microchipping section.

[basel]

that is so stupid sounding. thanks for the update though, and these madeleine threads get so long, can't read all the way through them.

bet the pope feels stupid now, for meeting with a child killer!

thats way i think they will never be found guilty, yes i think they had something to do with it but this little bit we are seeing at the moment suggests that it might be playing out like this to form the illusion that they have been investigated but nothing was found, remember the pope's and bush indirectly are involved now and a conviction would'nt make them look to good

[indigo]

ok so i don't understand how the blood could have gotten into the car 25 days after her disappearance. at that point they were being watched by both police and media so could not have tried to dispose of a body at that stage. it just doesn't add up, of course i am in the states and not following as closely as many of you brits. so please give me some explanation for this.Because it's a set up. It was planted in there. Possibly by the mccanns themselves.

[phildee3]

it's a set up. It was planted in there. Possibly by the mccanns themselves.

Now that sounds weird!
Can you explain why you think they would possibly do that?