Just back from disneyworld and I feel traumatised.

[crystalline]

I've just got back from a two week break at Disneyworld and I genuinely feel as though I have lost all sense of normality and identity of self I had before I went there. Most people who know me attest that I am very astute and aware, however the way disney immerse you and get control of all of your senses is very powerful. Thankfully I could see the strategies being used in all there glory, but even with the knowledge and forsight of what is being done to my psyche I still feel traumatised. The constant onslaught of sensory overload has gone and it is as if I am feeling withdrawals from it all like some sort of drug. :eek:

[earthwalkr]

Crystalline,

It is so. Programming. Done on purpose. Mr. Walt himself was recruited to use his wonderland as a programming tool. His tv show and movies also.
Those of us who are sensitive, pick-up and are bombarded into overload because of it. I also think these places use ELF and microwaves on the park participants to wear them down so that the programming goes in. Most are so dazzled by the fantasy of the place, they don't pick-up on what is being done to them.
I will never go there. Most amusement parks have similar objectives. It will take some time for most of that to be dissipated. I wonder if you'll have any flashbacks or trauma later on. Let us know, especially how your dream state is for the next few weeks. Programming has a tendency to show up in disturbed, violent or chaotic dreams.

[crystalline]

earthwalkr its funny you mention dreams because I have awoken from a really violent dream. I was in a disney type attraction/ride, going down a dark tunnel with ghouls and ghosts coming out of the walls at me, also I had a freaky experience with my partner earlier, what should have been a romantic moment ended up with me having flashback type experience of being on another disney ride with overly bright colours and explosions going off in my mind. My partner has bought the cd with all of the songs from the rides and parks on it and I am dreading hearing this music, I already have these tunes buzzing through me anyway and want to be normal again and get out of this disney state:eek:
With regard to microwave energy in the parks, I can quite believe it, I saw machines which spray out what I can only describe as "happy smells", these were discretely dotted among grassy areas and when you passed them you would get a smell of hot cookies being cooked.

[camreeno]

The reason for all the Disneylands from the start was to get people immersed in these corporate worlds to get a sense of Disney being such a friendly, caring corporation that wouldn't hurt a fly. All the parks serve as tools to convince people that Disney is so harmless in an effort to make it easier to implement their mind control techniques and everything.

[nicholaq]

I've just got back from a two week break at Disneyworld and I genuinely feel as though I have lost all sense of normality and identity of self I had before I went there. Most people who know me attest that I am very astute and aware, however the way disney immerse you and get control of all of your senses is very powerful. Thankfully I could see the strategies being used in all there glory, but even with the knowledge and forsight of what is being done to my psyche I still feel traumatised. The constant onslaught of sensory overload has gone and it is as if I am feeling withdrawals from it all like some sort of drug. :eek:

Arghhh.. Im going for two weeks in august!!:eek:

[lostworld]

Crystalline and Nicholaq, how can you guys not only go to Disneyworld but stay there for 2 weeks (!) when you have so much knowledge about this...? :confused:

I don't get it.

[armoured_amazon]

Crystalline and Nicholaq, how can you guys not only go to Disneyworld but stay there for 2 weeks (!) when you have so much knowledge about this...? :confused:

I don't get it.

Hehe, +1

Interruptions of noise, bright colours, conflicting smells etc make me extremely fractious. Disney has always been my idea of hell.

[lostworld]

Disney has always been my idea of hell.

Mine too :D

[crystalline]

I hear what you are saying Lostworld, but I went there for 2 weeks for my kids. The idea was it was a present to my kids because my eldest had heart surgery and it was our way of celebrating his bravery. I suppose that we fell for the gimmick of going to disney to celebrate overcoming illness/adversity, for that I am guilty. Sadly it wasn't all that for the kids either, my son almost had a heart attack on hearing all the fireworks:o

[size_of_light]

I hear what you are saying Lostworld, but I went there for 2 weeks for my kids. The idea was it was a present to my kids because my eldest had heart surgery and it was our way of celebrating his bravery. I suppose that we fell for the gimmick of going to disney to celebrate overcoming illness/adversity, for that I am guilty. Sadly it wasn't all that for the kids either, my son almost had a heart attack on hearing all the fireworks:o

If you escaped from that hellhole without being sodomised by a grown man wearing an animal god mask, consider yourself fortunate and view the whole episode as a learning experience.

Don't go back there again. ;)

[pureheart]

I went to Disneyland Paris last year and really enjoyed it. I think Paris is much smaller than the US version, but I thought it was laid out really nicely, not too big and really clean and tidy.

One of the school kids was totally freaked out by the It's a Small World ride but other than that I didn't feel that there was anything sinister. I'd go again.

The studios were particularly entertaining as they showed you how they do the stunts in movies.

My only complaint is that you couldn't get anything decent to eat - it was all burgers, hot dogs and coke.

[lostworld]

I hear what you are saying Lostworld, but I went there for 2 weeks for my kids. The idea was it was a present to my kids because my eldest had heart surgery and it was our way of celebrating his bravery. I suppose that we fell for the gimmick of going to disney to celebrate overcoming illness/adversity, for that I am guilty. Sadly it wasn't all that for the kids either, my son almost had a heart attack on hearing all the fireworks:o

I guess you're sometimes caught in between when you have kids... I understand, it can't be easy.
And I'm certainly not here to judge you.

But just remember, if it's bad for you - it's probably even more damaging to your kids... You're probably more sensitive/awake then them so it has a more instant effect on you, but it will have an effect on them subconsciously. That's how many of these things work...

I hope your son is feeling better now and I'm sorry for what your family has been through.

[crystalline]

Pureheart I have been to the Paris Disneyland and the US version is a lot more sinister. The Halloween night distressed my son and he had to leave due to the sinister laughing in the park and the dry smoke/freaky music and fireworks. We went to one show called fantasmic which was described as being possibly disturbing for young children so my parents looked after the kids and I couldn't believe that they were selling light up flashlight type things which when spinning fast spelled out the words "programme me"???

The show had fire and thunderclaps in it along with all of the disney villains attacking Mickey Mouse, there was a child in front of me cowering in his grandmothers arms throughout this, and this is supposed to be for kids?

[armoured_amazon]

I couldn't believe that they were selling light up flashlight type things which when spinning fast spelled out the words "programme me"???

Wtf? :eek:

Dayum. We're so lucky that we notice things. Fortunately (I don't know why) I always hated Disney as a child, didn't much like Warner cartoons either...my mum always used to put Wizard of Oz on, and I liked to watch it and sing along, but it made me disorientated, for what reasons, I obviously didn't know. I guess when we're programmed, we can pick up on it...

[crystalline]

I don't know if it's been done here before but there should be a thread on all of the programming techniques and subliminal imagery that people have spotted at disneyworld parks. There was a lot of reference to Wizard of Oz in an attraction called the Great Movie Ride and several times I found myself on "the yellow brick road". Another ride called Spaceship Earth takes you through a tunnel which has the Matrix codes all around you:confused:

I agree Armoured Amazon that we are lucky that we spot these subliminal messages, and a part of me was going into this with healthy skepticism looking for the subliminal messages there, but I wasn't prepared for the level at which they engulf you in it. Most people were walking around dazed and exhausted with crazed smiles from being overloaded with colour and cartoon.

[siphon880di]

Lol. I don't know. I miss Disneyland. I stay clear of theme rides like It's a Small World.

I miss universal studios too. I miss the smell.

Sorry I like theme rides. Just gotta avoid the rides that have program themes.

[siphon880di]

Wtf? :eek:

Dayum. We're so lucky that we notice things. Fortunately (I don't know why) I always hated Disney as a child, didn't much like Warner cartoons either...my mum always used to put Wizard of Oz on, and I liked to watch it and sing along, but it made me disorientated, for what reasons, I obviously didn't know. I guess when we're programmed, we can pick up on it...

I had a hard time watching Wizard of Oz without getting bored and daydreaming. I felt traumatized when my elementary school teacher forced me to watch it. Nowadays I know why.

[armoured_amazon]

I had a hard time watching Wizard of Oz without getting bored and daydreaming. I felt traumatized when my elementary school teacher forced me to watch it. Nowadays I know why.

Yeah, it always made me spaced out too. Weird.

[crystalline]

I always felt a little spaced out after watching Wizard of Oz as a kid too, also felt a similar sense of unease after watching Willy Wonka, but yet my folks used to put this sh ite on for us to watch every Christmas time, having said that I always felt really spaced out around Xmas too and still do, the onslaught of carols and bright colours and things that go bang, it's all down to sensory overload again. I think that the best way to destabilise someone is to knock there sensory system out of whack and then when there vulnerable they are easily prgrammed and manipulated. This is what it is all about. Which is probably why both of these films feature bright colours, crazy songs and things which go bang in them.:rolleyes:

[crystalline]

I hope your son is feeling better now and I'm sorry for what your family has been through.[/QUOTE]

many thanks for the kind words lostworld, and thankfully my son is a lot fitter now:)

[armoured_amazon]

I always felt a little spaced out after watching Wizard of Oz as a kid too, also felt a similar sense of unease after watching Willy Wonka, but yet my folks used to put this sh ite on for us to watch every Christmas time, having said that I always felt really spaced out around Xmas too and still do, the onslaught of carols and bright colours and things that go bang, it's all down to sensory overload again. I think that the best way to destabilise someone is to knock there sensory system out of whack and then when there vulnerable they are easily prgrammed and manipulated. This is what it is all about. Which is probably why both of these films feature bright colours, crazy songs and things which go bang in them.:rolleyes:

Definitely. I get like that at the supermarket. If I have to go there (I prefer going to the butchers and grocers etc), say for cat litter etc, hehe, I wear my ipod and go at night when it's less stimulating. If I didn't have my music on, all the conflicting sounds would drive me mad; the light's bad enough! I must annoy my mum when I go over, I'm forever saying, "Turn the TV down, it's too loud."

:o

[crystalline]

Definitely. I get like that at the supermarket. If I have to go there (I prefer going to the butchers and grocers etc), say for cat litter etc, hehe, I wear my ipod and go at night when it's less stimulating. If I didn't have my music on, all the conflicting sounds would drive me mad; the light's bad enough! I must annoy my mum when I go over, I'm forever saying, "Turn the TV down, it's too loud."

:o

lol I know exactly what you are saying AA My partner will say to me when we go shopping and I'm looking at all the tins of beans, "just pick one for god's sake!" I get dazzled by the array of items on the shelf and don't know which to pick:o

[nicholaq]

Crystalline and Nicholaq, how can you guys not only go to Disneyworld but stay there for 2 weeks (!) when you have so much knowledge about this...? :confused:

I don't get it.

Ahhh please I KNOW!!!! My bloody partner booked and paid for it all!! Im devastated. :eek:

[nicholaq]

Hehe, +1

Interruptions of noise, bright colours, conflicting smells etc make me extremely fractious. Disney has always been my idea of hell.

Me too!!! Faakin hell...xx:eek:

[lostworld]

Ahhh please I KNOW!!!! My bloody partner booked and paid for it all!! Im devastated. :eek:

:D

Enjoy! :p

[lostworld]

Me too!!! Faakin hell...xx:eek:

I reckon your partner isn't as awake as you are then...? :rolleyes: :D

[nicholaq]

I reckon your partner isn't as awake as you are then...? :rolleyes: :D

Nope definatly not:(
I try explaining things to him and he acts all interested. But as soon as I try talking to him about it he cant remember a thing.
We went to see David Icke at the Alternative View in Devon a couple of years back and HE FELL ASLEEP!!! FFS!!!:eek: I roared at him outside:mad:
He will listen to a point and then his brain just stops working im afraid!!
I can only apologise on his behalf
:o x

[nicholaq]

Its actually really embarrasing sometimes.:o

[gripit]

Check out the Walt Disney Agenda thread (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8971&highlight=walt+disney+agenda) :eek:

[lostworld]

Nope definatly not:(
I try explaining things to him and he acts all interested. But as soon as I try talking to him about it he cant remember a thing.
We went to see David Icke at the Alternative View in Devon a couple of years back and HE FELL ASLEEP!!! FFS!!!:eek: I roared at him outside:mad:
He will listen to a point and then his brain just stops working im afraid!!
I can only apologise on his behalf
:o x

Its actually really embarrasing sometimes.:o

No need to apologise :) :D

I think this is quite common, that one is more awake than the other.
It's not optimal but hey, opposites attract right? :p

[nicholaq]

No need to apologise :) :D

I think this is quite common, that one is more awake than the other.
It's not optimal but hey, opposites attract right? :p

Thanks Lostworld.xx:)

[crystalline]

nicolaq, lostworld, I too have a very asleep partner. On discussing the disney stuff I was trying to explain to him how all the sensory stuff was an attempt to disorient us and he replied "Who cares what the reason for it all is I'm loving it":eek:

However I have a little hope, in that it was my partner who noticed the light up thing which said "programme me" when it was spinning, I am working on him to accompany me to see Icke next year. Surely after 8 hours of Icke he will be moderately more awakened than now;)

[lostworld]

nicolaq, lostworld, I too have a very asleep partner. On discussing the disney stuff I was trying to explain to him how all the sensory stuff was an attempt to disorient us and he replied "Who cares what the reason for it all is I'm loving it":eek:

However I have a little hope, in that it was my partner who noticed the light up thing which said "programme me" when it was spinning, I am working on him to accompany me to see Icke next year. Surely after 8 hours of Icke he will be moderately more awakened than now;)


Well, I don't have a partner now so I don't have to deal with this for the moment. But in the past the guy has always been more "black and white" in his thinking. Not like me at all.
And I haven't even tried to win him over to "the right side" cause you can't force it if there is no interest, if they are completly immune.
Now, since I'm more awake than ever, I don't even think that I would be attracted to that kind of guy again. There's too much difference. And somehow I would look down on him perhaps. It sounds bad but that's what I often do with other sheeple too.
It's not a turn on exactly...
But you'll never know. Like I said, opposites attract too.

Crystalline, I think your partner might be on the right way. Just give him some time...

And - this is not only a problem with partners. It's a problem within families too.
Mothers and fathers who are more awake than their children, children who are more awake than their parents, sisters or brothers etc.
It can get really frustrating cause you can feel very "alienated" and almost forced to "lower yourself" to their level and have fake conversations cause everytime you start to talk about something really important they shut down and don't get it. :(

My sister is a sheeple. Totally gone...
But my mother understands. I wouldn't call her fully awake but at least she listens and gets some of it. She's believes in the alien connection/the aliengods behind our creation for instance.
And she's not taking the vaccine! :)

[nicholaq]

I totally understand were your coming from when you talk about family members being sheep. Its a pain in the arse really.
The only family member who has really listened to anything I have to say regarding this stuff is my nan.
I have read random pages from The Biggest Secret to her and she seemed really interested.:)

[lostworld]

I totally understand were your coming from when you talk about family members being sheep. Its a pain in the arse really.
The only family member who has really listened to anything I have to say regarding this stuff is my nan.
I have read random pages from The Biggest Secret to her and she seemed really interested.:)

That's great though. Very sweet :)

Obviously, it has nothing to do with age (your nan, my mother).
Yet the older generation have a better excuse not to see this, since they perhaps are more naive, doesn't always have access to the net/info etc.
Our brothers and sisters doesn't have that excuse, and still they are MORE programmed :eek:
It's crazy, it really is.
It always amazes me how non-curious the sheeple are of other things than themselves and their own little lives. And how they hardly question anything that they're told. :(