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does anyone have any ideas how to prevent Hollywood scum from sending you nasty threats after you downloaded "illegal content"
I downloaded an old TV series (Columbo) and mofos sent me a Hollywood nastygram. so i told them that i deleted the "offending file" but i also told them to f- off.
argh...
there has to be a way to prevent those mofos butting in in my torrent downloads.
anyone ?
reptilianshapeshifter
06-09-2007, 07:17 AM
Well I think in your brazeness you have made more trouble for yourself.
First thing you must do is NEVER admit to downloading the file - so you have already admitted downloading the file saying you have deleted it.
If things get heavier you need to get a wireless router and claim someone must have used it IF they can thoroughly prove without doubt that the files had gone to your IP address.
Only use private torrent trackers because public trackers are easily readable by these agencies.
Well I think in your brazeness you have made more trouble for yourself.
First thing you must do is NEVER admit to downloading the file - so you have already admitted downloading the file saying you have deleted it.
that is what they want you to do -- admit that you have deleted the file, otherwise they give you more shit
If things get heavier you need to get a wireless router and claim someone must have used it IF they can thoroughly prove without doubt that the files had gone to your IP address.
interesting idea
Only use private torrent trackers because public trackers are easily readable by these agencies.
how do i find if a torrent tracker is private? and what is "private tracker anyways"?
ok, figured it out.
can anyone invite me to any of private tracker torrent sites?
TIA
h1s_l0rdsh1p
07-09-2007, 09:16 AM
1 word...
private proxy
*moment of idiocity*
2 words, sorry :P
dark86
07-09-2007, 09:25 AM
say you bought the DVDs and have downloaded them as you DVD player has packed up and need them for a college project.
i a few years ago just replied to this threat with "come and find me fuckers".
reptilianshapeshifter
07-09-2007, 12:50 PM
Well of course it's what they want you to do because it makes their job a whole lot easier than actually having to investigate anything!
If you admit to it they will give you an offer that you can pay something like $3000 per file you admit to having instead of taking you to court for milllions.
They only reason they have been so successful is because people having been paying up and not going to court.
Proxies are hard to use with p2p and your success rate is lucky to be non existent if you don't know much about it.
pumma
08-09-2007, 12:02 AM
Oh these guys...
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/3218/riaabp6.jpg
I personally use Direct Downloads (via Warez Forums) for any kind of need ... It's safe, fast, direct, no waiting lines and stress free.
advice appreciated and thanks for the hookup
raffles
11-09-2007, 04:58 PM
does anyone have any ideas how to prevent Hollywood scum from sending you nasty threats after you downloaded "illegal content"
I downloaded an old TV series (Columbo) and mofos sent me a Hollywood nastygram. so i told them that i deleted the "offending file" but i also told them to f- off.
argh...
there has to be a way to prevent those mofos butting in in my torrent downloads.
anyone ?
Thats easy mate, ditch the torrents and learn how to use the newsgroups.
They are far better than torrents and you always d/l at full speed, i can d/l a full dvd in about an hour on a 10meg connection.
Thats easy mate, ditch the torrents and learn how to use the newsgroups.
They are far better than torrents and you always d/l at full speed, i can d/l a full dvd in about an hour on a 10meg connection.
i forgot about those... it has been that long!
I thought NG were dead.
I had used alt.binaries many years ago.
what are good newsgroups nowadays and what is a NG good client that can pull out data chunks in automated fashion?
raffles
11-09-2007, 07:36 PM
Far from dead mate, everything goes up to the newsgroups more or less the same time they hit the ftp's nowadays.
The newsclient i use is newsleecher, its got built in par2 and rar support, another thats not bad is grabit and that one is free.
As for the newsgroups it depends what your after, check out www.binsearch.info a great newsgroup search engine it also creates nzb files you can drop into your newsclient.
Far from dead mate, everything goes up to the newsgroups more or less the same time they hit the ftp's nowadays.
The newsclient i use is newsleecher, its got built in par2 and rar support, another thats not bad is grabit and that one is free.
As for the newsgroups it depends what your after, check out www.binsearch.info a great newsgroup search engine it also creates nzb files you can drop into your newsclient.
thanks mate!
i'll give it a go
kblood
12-09-2007, 01:46 AM
I use
http://thepiratebay.org
mostly.
Also I use uTorrent as the torrent downloader, since you mostly do not have to upload much to get a good download going. My downloads usually get to full speed within 5-10 min. I really cannot be bothered using newsgroups. Usually they have lots of stupid filenames there, that have to be renamed, and it is alot of "scenereleases". In torrents it seems to me that everything can be found. If it sometimes takes 5 hours, well, I usually can wait 5 hours anyway. And with torrents, you do not always have to download a bunch of rar or zip files that needs to be unpacked after. With torrents the files can be tested for errors anyway, and if there are any, the errors will be fixed in the file. That is alot better than having to deal with 40 compressed archieves in my opinion.
I have never been bothered by the RIAA or anyone else, but I guess it depends on what you download, how long it takes to download, and where you download it from. Some torrent sites are actually made by the RIAA as traps :eek: Make sure the site you use have been around a long time, links to other good and known warez sites, and have a reputation. If they got a nice list of lawyer letters they debunk as well, then all the better :) The pirate bay got a nice list of threats they have recieved about them being closed down if they dont remove something or stop the site... the thing is they arent doing anything illegal. And being in Sweden, I do not thing the RIAA has clearance to see who uses their torrents.
My IP changes now and then by the way. I guess that makes me a bit harder to track, but shouldnt really be that much harder. As far as I know, we still got an adress that links to us, even if the IP adress doesnt.
Btw... do not admit that you ever downloaded something illegal. You can just say that it was someone else who must have done it, using your connection, without your permission ;) Unless they raid you and get proof that those files are on your computer, they do not have any case against you whatsoever. Most cases they make, they loose. I doubt they will make a whole case against you, based on Columbo alone :) They really have bigger fish to worry about. That is my main defence. Sticking to a few well known torrent sites (or actually paying for the software :eek: ), and making sure that I am not the most obvious one to go for. Downloading all the most popular stuff, that RIAA is more likely to keep an eye on... :rolleyes: You probably get the idea.
Also I use uTorrent as the torrent downloader, since you mostly do not have to upload much to get a good download going. My downloads usually get to full speed within 5-10 min. I really cannot be bothered using newsgroups. Usually they have lots of stupid filenames there, that have to be renamed, and it is alot of "scenereleases". In torrents it seems to me that everything can be found. If it sometimes takes 5 hours, well, I usually can wait 5 hours anyway. And with torrents, you do not always have to download a bunch of rar or zip files that needs to be unpacked after. With torrents the files can be tested for errors anyway, and if there are any, the errors will be fixed in the file. That is alot better than having to deal with 40 compressed archieves in my opinion.
I have never been bothered by the RIAA or anyone else, but I guess it depends on what you download, how long it takes to download, and where you download it from.
that makes sense, but i think that ISP does matter
Some torrent sites are actually made by the RIAA as traps :eek:
yap, i am positive of it
Make sure the site you use have been around a long time, links to other good and known warez sites, and have a reputation. If they got a nice list of lawyer letters they debunk as well, then all the better :) The pirate bay got a nice list of threats they have recieved about them being closed down if they dont remove something or stop the site... the thing is they arent doing anything illegal. And being in Sweden, I do not thing the RIAA has clearance to see who uses their torrents.
yap, i read some of those letters.. really funny
My IP changes now and then by the way. I guess that makes me a bit harder to track, but shouldnt really be that much harder. As far as I know, we still got an adress that links to us, even if the IP adress doesnt.
internet providers like Cox are afraid of RIAA and MPAA so they will pull out the ip address when needed and send a nastigram on behalf of before mentioned mofos
Btw... do not admit that you ever downloaded something illegal. You can just say that it was someone else who must have done it, using your connection, without your permission ;)
thanks for the tip
Unless they raid you and get proof that those files are on your computer, they do not have any case against you whatsoever. Most cases they make, they loose. I doubt they will make a whole case against you, based on Columbo alone :) They really have bigger fish to worry about. That is my main defence.
yes, that is how i feel
Sticking to a few well known torrent sites (or actually paying for the software :eek: ), and making sure that I am not the most obvious one to go for. Downloading all the most popular stuff, that RIAA is more likely to keep an eye on... :rolleyes: You probably get the idea.
yes, i agree
what are good torrent sites besides pirate bay?
thanks for the tips
kblood
12-09-2007, 10:33 AM
I also use http://www.torrentz.com/
It is a search engine that links to other good torrent sites. I just found out that the Pirate Bay might not be accessible from the US :( I am hoping most of Europe can use it.
I recently just trying BioShock, and found that it doesnt support my soundcard or some crap like that. So I might just have saved myself 50€ there :) When Crysis, Unreal Tournament 3 and Starcraft 2 comes out, I will simply have to own those games :D
I also buy the movies I like the best on DVD, but usually I do not buy a movie that I havent seen in a cinema, rented or as a dowloaded movie first. Usually goes for games as well. I have been dissapointed by too many games to buy them before I try them. Except Blizzard games :) They usually always give me weeks of entertainment or more :)
freedomnonfighter
12-09-2007, 10:37 AM
I'm a www.mininova.org fan :) (used to be suprnova)
Oh, also agree that uTorrent is the best torrent program out there.
kblood
12-09-2007, 10:41 AM
I'm a www.mininova.org fan :) (used to be suprnova)
Oh, also agree that uTorrent is the best torrent program out there.
Mininova is one of the sites that are in the http://www.torrentz.com/ search engine :) A very good site yes. If I did not have the Pirate Bay, I might be using Mininova mostly. Back in the time of Suprnova, that was my main torrent site. When it got shut down, I really thought that the warez community might begin to have problems... that I might even have to convert to using newsbin to download warez. Did not take long for everything to be back to normal though :)
Mininova is one of the sites that are in the http://www.torrentz.com/ search engine :) A very good site yes. If I did not have the Pirate Bay, I might be using Mininova mostly. Back in the time of Suprnova, that was my main torrent site. When it got shut down, I really thought that the warez community might begin to have problems... that I might even have to convert to using newsbin to download warez. Did not take long for everything to be back to normal though :)
but, those fake torrents by MPAA and RIAA can be also found on those torrent sites like mininova?!
that would not solve the problem of Hollywood police, would it?
kblood
12-09-2007, 11:41 PM
but, those fake torrents by MPAA and RIAA can be also found on those torrent sites like mininova?!
that would not solve the problem of Hollywood police, would it?
I dont think so. I have only found well known torrent sites using this engine, and from what I have heard the RIAA and MPAA doesnt let their sites run for more than 6 months at most. Another good site is the megatorrents one I think its called. If you use a torrent search engine to find something, then you should just make sure you stick to a few of them, or check them out and see if they have been around for a long time, and maybe linked to by the other torrent sites. F.ex. if mininova links to them, they are probably quite genuine. I would be surprised if MPAA or RPAA managed to get one of their sites on the torrentz search engine. Even if they did, they would have to prove that the files was downloaded to a computer in your house, and not by a mistake by someone hacking your netword ;) Also, their sites probably needs you to register somehow. They will probably try to make it easy for themselves :)
I dont think so. I have only found well known torrent sites using this engine, and from what I have heard the RIAA and MPAA doesnt let their sites run for more than 6 months at most. Another good site is the megatorrents one I think its called. If you use a torrent search engine to find something, then you should just make sure you stick to a few of them, or check them out and see if they have been around for a long time, and maybe linked to by the other torrent sites. F.ex. if mininova links to them, they are probably quite genuine. I would be surprised if MPAA or RPAA managed to get one of their sites on the torrentz search engine. Even if they did, they would have to prove that the files was downloaded to a computer in your house, and not by a mistake by someone hacking your netword ;) Also, their sites probably needs you to register somehow. They will probably try to make it easy for themselves :)
are you saying that RIIA/MRAA are running their own torrent sites, with their own fake torrents that they use as a bait?
i thought that they can just create a fake torrent and submit it to a legit torrent search engine?
how does this process that RIIA/MPAA use really works?
jerichoforce
30-10-2007, 11:32 AM
Far from dead mate, everything goes up to the newsgroups more or less the same time they hit the ftp's nowadays.
The newsclient i use is newsleecher, its got built in par2 and rar support, another thats not bad is grabit and that one is free.
As for the newsgroups it depends what your after, check out www.binsearch.info a great newsgroup search engine it also creates nzb files you can drop into your newsclient.
aye
http://www.newsgroupreviews.com/RIAA-Targets-Usenet.html
http://howto.wired.com/wiredhowtos/index.cgi?page_name=share_files_on_usenet;action=d isplay;category=Play
hehehe :D
kblood
30-10-2007, 05:13 PM
are you saying that RIIA/MRAA are running their own torrent sites, with their own fake torrents that they use as a bait?
i thought that they can just create a fake torrent and submit it to a legit torrent search engine?
how does this process that RIIA/MPAA use really works?
The thing is that the data in the torrent have to be illegal I guess, or they probably wont have enough to make charges against someone, and also they probably need a greater log of the people they are targetting. So a full torrent site with login is probably the best way for them to get some good evidence to catch Internet pirates. I think they do this is because torrents are otherwise very nameless. Lots of different trackers and peers per torrent, and not any easy ways to track a single IP or peer user at any one time. This is why a log over maybe 6-12 months is needed and some hard evidence. Making their own torrents, using their own trackers on a few torrent sites wont be enough, and if it was they would be doing a crime themselves. I guess they are with the other sites as well, but I think their trick is to make others post and share the torrents on their site, so they are only logging all the traffic. Then they can track the users of the torrent site they have, without doing anything criminal themselves...
The thing is that the data in the torrent have to be illegal I guess, or they probably wont have enough to make charges against someone, and also they probably need a greater log of the people they are targetting. So a full torrent site with login is probably the best way for them to get some good evidence to catch Internet pirates. I think they do this is because torrents are otherwise very nameless. Lots of different trackers and peers per torrent, and not any easy ways to track a single IP or peer user at any one time. This is why a log over maybe 6-12 months is needed and some hard evidence. Making their own torrents, using their own trackers on a few torrent sites wont be enough, and if it was they would be doing a crime themselves. I guess they are with the other sites as well, but I think their trick is to make others post and share the torrents on their site, so they are only logging all the traffic. Then they can track the users of the torrent site they have, without doing anything criminal themselves...
interesting
because i noticed that usualy after a few parts of that (RIIA) torrent download (say a few % of total download) download stops, there are no longer sources to download from.
so i guess they build a bunch of links/seeds into a fake torrent that are actually pointing to the torrent peers that they control, so they can can stop downloads at their will.
I am sure that they are building those 'bait' torrents themselves, as they provide hash in email that is sent to "offenders" .
otherwise how can they know the hash value of it and be able to stop the downloads?