Passport ... 100 years ago

[yozhik]

From Black's 2nd Edition, 1910 ...

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The notion of passports repulses me.
In my mind, they are slave papers; undeniable proof of assumed ownership.
We're sold the idea that they are evidence of freedom and liberties.
Nothing could be further from the truth.

I thought it timely to be reminded of the definition of a "passport" from 100 years ago.

Comments?
Solutions?
Remedies?

[Ian2day]

From Black's 2nd Edition, 1910 ...

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The notion of passports repulses me.
In my mind, they are slave papers; undeniable proof of assumed ownership.
We're sold the idea that they are evidence of freedom and liberties.
Nothing could be further from the truth.

I thought it timely to be reminded of the definition of a "passport" from 100 years ago.

Comments?
Solutions?
Remedies?

Is this a question you have been set from a college or something?

[the worm that turned]

Something uncomfortable sits within me that we are deemed as vessels (ships) by our government and as such we are perhaps looking in the wrong place for information about how we are "handled" by our "masters".

I'm sure this has been mentioned elsewhere but didn't receive much comment before.

Admiralty law
Passport
Currency
Banks
CitizenSHIP
OwnerSHIP

There was also something I read in my law dictionary yesterday (will need to find it again) that made me think of this again.

Anyone else willing to entertain this??

[Ian2day]

Like empty vessels waiting to be filled up with knowledge. Is from a book by Dickens. So a vessel is a container. Used to carry a load or be laden with goods. Hence Bill of Laden for goods onboard a container ship.

[yozhik]

Is this a question you have been set from a college or something?



No.

As I stated, the concept of passports and how they are used as tools of ensavement/manipulation/control repulses me.

I find it repugnant and nauseating.

This definition from 100 years ago is one I find 'interesting'.
Just thought I'd share it and see if any discussion comes from it.

Reason being, from what I have researched thus far, the 'passport' is the one benefit/trinket that seems to ensnare us more than any other.
Without it, we do not have the freedom of travel, given the nefarious web that has been weaved.
Of course we are 'free' to leave our shores ... but to where?

Who is willing to surrender their ability to travel internationally by throwing away a passport?

Sure, you might be able to AFV it, therefore claiming it and removing the benefit/privilege status ... but given you had to beg for it, register for it, surrender your biometic data ... simply to exercise your right to travel ... how free does that really make you?

[theoneandonly]

Is there any way of travelling without a passport?

[Ian2day]

Yozhik here's what I had got upto earlier...

A merchant vessal is that a ship in international waters that is not flying a flag, during the progress of war. They deem war as progress (is that not an oxymoron!). This is to stop a sea merchanet being called a spy by a warring enemy of their own (Definition of government?) government (note not a country)?

With this enemy being referred to as belligirant (can be a peace treaty between powers*). As in they wont do as they are told. An antagonistic rebel against the status quo then.

Also note that it says paper. So if it is not made of paper then it is not a true and valid pass. It is counterfeit, and thus anyone who issues a counterfeit document is committing an international crime?

A license issued to facilitate safe movement. As in this persons conduct is not going to cause harm to the warring or peace treaty status quo.

It is also allowing a person to travel from one belligerant country to another belligerant country during a time of war. So it allows a person to move from enemy country to enemy country with all of their effects unpeded. As well as between countrys not at war with the home country. Without being held at the border due to a state of war existing.

Is an American instrument to give protection to American vessals from barbary powers

or is in fact flying the jolly roger. So perhaps, we should really be Pirates-on-the-high-sea-of-commerce! Sounds more romantic than Freeman if you ask me. May also have more ladies show interest, to refer to yourself, as a Buccaneer! lol

A Bill of laden comes to mind.

* I recall that on television a few years ago. I saw a peace treaty signing with I think a Rothschild there. It must of been the one in the torn apart by war Yugoslavia. That is their MO right there. Create conflict so as to break a nation into complete indebtedness to them.


Is there any way of travelling without a passport?

Perhaps see Jolly Roger and Buccaneer.

[yozhik]

* I recall that on television a few years ago. I saw a peace treaty signing with I think a Rothschild there. It must of been the one in the torn apart by war Yugoslavia. That is their MO right there. Create conflict so as to break a nation into complete indebtedness to them.
As we know, Hollywood has a marvelous fetish for throwing it directly in our faces and appears to be the PTB's favourite medium for hiding it in plain sight.

To have a little ironic chuckle to yourself, watch 'The Internationals', with Clive Owen and Naomi Watts.

More than its fair share of home truths in there ...

[rosix]

Is there any way of travelling without a passport?

apostille family book

[clint web]

I went to New york with my passport - I didn't feel particularly enslaved.

And before anybody says it - I know we're all living in the prison without bars etc etc. ;)

[rosix]

I went to New york with my passport - I didn't feel particularly enslaved.

And before anybody says it - I know we're all living in the prison without bars etc etc. ;)

from your post I can safely assume you've never been truly shown how much of a fish in a barrel you are when you're traveling internationally via the only sensible means when crossing continents (air travel). The airport has been in many ways the first place where most of our freedom and rights have been raped from us - the main issue is that when people are in an airport they don't have a lot of time to stand up for their rights and just bend over and say "get it over with then". On a trip sometime in 2008 I had half a dozen PDA (personal digital assitants) with me, all mine, nevermind why I had them, and if I had been on a short fuse I wouldn't have been nice and cute with my answers and would've probably ended up missing my flight (I managed to fight all the urges to tell them it was of absolutely no concern to them why I had these items and just basically didn't answer any of their questions with anything more than just repeating what they had said "are all of these yours?" "all of these are mine" "what do you need all of these for?" "not sure really, I like them")