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analog
08-11-2009, 04:05 AM
Some things that David Ickes (and others) say about Reptilians i can go with and some things i cant.
When he talks about Humans having a Reptilian Brain within our Human Brain which is the seat of aggression and territoriality, and that the Elite are manipulating it i can go with that theory.
A Little further out when he talks about entities that look Reptilian, still evan though its far out i can got for it, for instance just look at the Christian conception of the Devil.
The Problem i have is the "Shape-Shifting" element of David Theory, I have heard him explain how a supposedly Solid object is not acctuly solid and that Shape-Shifting is acctuly very simple, although i still dont agree.
I dont believe in this dense realm it is acctuly physicaly possible for an Object to shapeshift.
any arguments and comments are welcome.
brock
08-11-2009, 04:54 AM
anything is possible. It depends on the mechanic's of the genes to the cells and rest of the body. Viruses go into cells and change them to make them produce something they don't regulaly - other virsues. Chemistry is quantum physic's, it's as mechanical as machines, just on a very small scale.
choice
08-11-2009, 05:03 AM
Analog, i think i understand your point and had the same questions myself.
What i notice isn't shapeshifting, but i consider some technics. For example, when i walk outside in more "dangerous places", i imagine i turn myself invisible. Or, when i do not want to be noticed.
I believe it may sound weird, as it was (is?) for me, despite i never felt disappointed in the experiences i had.
I have some trouble imagining a shapeshinfting too... but so far what i have experienced, is that we can "change/influence" some realities... or at least come more undercover.
Analog, i think i understand your point and had the same questions myself.
What i notice isn't shapeshifting, but i consider some technics. For example, when i walk outside in more "dangerous places", i imagine i turn myself invisible. Or, when i do not want to be noticed.
I believe it may sound weird, as it was (is?) for me, despite i never felt disappointed in the experiences i had.
I have some trouble imagining a shapeshinfting too... but so far what i have experienced, is that we can "change/influence" some realities... or at least come more undercover.
For 1 or 2 weeks after a car accident I had (had head injury) I was able to see many people that appeared to have a 2nd image of grey aliens. I could see both human and alien image at same time. I think this was just hallucinations due to the injury.:confused:
analog
08-11-2009, 01:29 PM
Thank you for your replies all, I major issue i have with shape-Shifting is that i cannot see how a Physical Body made of atoms could shift froma Human to Reptilian form and back again.
I have listened to David Ickes explanation of this, he says "The World is not Solid and is made of Atoms and Atoms have solidity therefore Shape-Shifting is possible" but the way see there world is yes it is true that the World is Holographic, Atoms have no solidity and as the deepest level everything is Energy but while your Consciousness is seated in a "Physical Body, Biological Computer" you cannot shape-shift your vehicle.
Arguments and Comments welcome.
Thank you for your replies all, I major issue i have with shape-Shifting is that i cannot see how a Physical Body made of atoms could shift froma Human to Reptilian form and back again.
I have listened to David Ickes explanation of this, he says "The World is not Solid and is made of Atoms and Atoms have solidity therefore Shape-Shifting is possible" but the way see there world is yes it is true that the World is Holographic, Atoms have no solidity and as the deepest level everything is Energy but while your Consciousness is seated in a "Physical Body, Biological Computer" you cannot shape-shift your vehicle.
Arguments and Comments welcome.
some ideas of how it might be done (I am not a scientist and these are only ideas, I do not believe in them, I am just being open minded and brain storming for ideas):
1.
You know about parallel universes theory, well, what if the greys in this universe are able to channel and quantumly connect to another universe where the aliens are humans and the humans are aliens, reversed! And in their brains exist quantum qubits (some scientist say there is qubits within nerves in the brain!) and the quantum connection allows photons(light) going near the skin to transfer into the other parallel universe hit the skin of the HUMAN in the other universe and then bounce off and again transfer back into our universe and travel to your eyes or a camera, etc.
THUS what we see is a human and even cameras see this. But what we are seeing is light/image from the other parallel universe.
2.
Psychic Hypnosis. In the TV series "Dr Who" the MASTER used satellites to mass hypnotise people to ignore people/things and think whatever he wanted. Well, maybe when you see a grey or a picture exactly looking like a grey the result is the brain obeys hypnotised instructions to change the imagine within their own heads to instead see a human instead of seeing a grey. Maybe some people after an accident or because of mental problems somehow have their brains ignore the hypnotised instructions with the result that they see or partly see the true image of the alien.
3.
They are able to emit some kind of chemical that weakens the interceller structure and allows more flow. Perhaps DNA is able to generate a holographic signal that assists cells in KNOWING where to arrange themselves, and maybe they have sliced part of the human DNA into theirs and at will they can selectively activate the DNA holographic signal that varies around the body and the signal is at such a level and the weakened interceller structure together allows the cells to be pushed around by the holographic resonance signal such that the cells rearrange into a new structure and thus the grey alien then at will appears to be human! This is due to either chemical released or brain waves traveling into the DNA and with the correct sequence actives the holographic signal to change form. Another possibility is no human DNA and the holographic form is completely control by thought. OR they grab a HUMAN during an abduction and then hold the person and send a signal that travels into the human DNA and then flows back to the alien and is AMPLIFIED and resets the alien form into the abducted humans form.
4.
They have abducted the original person. And due to their psychic/technical ability can mentally quantum entangle with the person that is held on a space ship. They can access their memories. And somehow the photons transfer to the person and back again. Basically the light/photons are teleported to the person and bounce of and teleport back to the alien. If you are about to kill the alien they just teleport the human into that location seamlessly and after you have killed the alien the police come and check the body and find it is really a human and they think you are crazy! (the alien really teleported out/swapped positions with the human.
5.
They a psychically able to reflect photons of whatever frequency they desire. So a psychic area of effect is formed 2cm above their skin/cloths and all around their body and this region allows through and reflects light of the frequencies they desire and in appropriate directions such that the light is psychically altered and returns an image of a human. so their physic powers are not only telekonetic(able to effect heavy matter/mass) but telephotonic (able to effect very 'light' matter, hehe:D).
6.
They have cells that release liquid that can have it's color adjusted and can change into a rubbery solid. Varying the amount changes the layer's thickness and allows the alien to be somewhat like the tv series "V" where they have a human appearance layering of 'skin' over their own skin. And their Iris pattern can change at will (Iridology believes the iris pattern corresponds to health of different organs, but maybe by sending a impulse down an appropriate nerve they are able to effect a part of the iris pattern, doing it with conscious control over the nerves all around the body might be able to reset the pattern as they want it to appear). So a cat's eye or a human iris pattern can be formed and including colors (drugs can effect the iris and create colored spots within the eyes corresponding to the location of the drug's injection) so the iris color and pattern can be changed by the mind!
7.
We are all part of a computer program just like the matrix movie and anything is possible!
8.
They are able to channel energy from hell and perform acts similar to acts of god.
9.
They can partly move into another dimension or come from another dimension. OR can warp our dimension or spacetime locally such that their volume/dimensions within our dimension appear to change but have not really changed. In the TV series "Dr Who" the tardis has greater inner dimensions then it appears to have. Maybe the alien can alter dimensions such that his body morphs into a human form (but maybe still it really is still the alien form internally, just appears as a human form) and the dimensional changes can also effect the light being reflected/absorbed as the altered dimensions changes the frequencies that are absorbed/reflected.
Perhaps if you wore a TARDIS technology spacesuit, it might be able to make a 200kg fat man appear as a little 30kg child while allowing the wearer to have super human strength and move around like a dancer. The skin can be flexable and enhance the users abilities and allow them to change shape/volume/etc (but the user himself is not changing shape him self within his dimensions because the dimensions inside is different to outside.
10.
Cells that inflate/deflate, just like balloons that are micro size.
11.
Nano chips. Each user has trillions inside them. The chips changes the color of the skin and the shape/form of the body. Perhaps temporally changing scaly skins into very soft skin and growing hair in a similar way to how people with morgellons have fibres growing out of them! (See my other post http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8480&page=12).
12.
Well, if your civilization was millions of years ahead of earth technology, perhaps there would be a lot of different technology that we have never dreamed of yet or could even understand........:confused:
another idea:
13.
Maybe the aliens lived on another planet billions of years ago and their home planet was destroyed by global green house effect/etc. The atmosphere increased/changed and the inhabitants had 2 choices, either die or transfer their minds into robots that could tolerate the environment. They were reptoids and prefer their reptoid form, perhaps long term plan was in future would fix environment and could re-transfer their minds back into the clones using resonance pattern that provides a kind of resistance to cells growing into certain directions and less resistance and even a push into other directions such that the clone can be grown with a resonance template for it's brain to form into and thus the clone has all the memories of the original. Perhaps the robots work by projecting a EM holographic resonance/signal pattern over the material that make it change into the form they desire. Each cellur unit can be positioned into a new position. (stargate tv series has humanoid robots that can change into any form/shape).
Many people will say robots/computers can not reproduce the ability of a human brain and never will be able to, but I disagree. Sure current computers simulate a neuron at a time and would require a very very long time just to duplicate a single second of a humans thought. HOWEVER if you have a computer that uses holographic tech to create a duplicate of the human brain within a plastic cube then the signal is traveling at the speed of light within that plastic brain instead of 100m/s of ions/chemicals and also the volume can be shrunk, so the duplicated brain can function with each 'photonic neuron' working in parallel and achieve speeds millions of times faster then human brains (would need to slow this down for real world use).
Perhaps an alien could be a vampire:eek:. It goes up to a person and grabs him and puts 2 fangs into him. Suck out DNA sample for shape shifting use (holographic signal over DNA to get shape effects on it's body) and perhaps copy the persons brain into a plastic cube microchip that is inside the aliens brain/body such that the alien has sucked the blood out of you and literally sucked (copy/transferred) your 'soul'(mind). The alien then has access to all your memories and even personality.
rhydra
08-11-2009, 05:28 PM
What we see as solid matter isn't actually solid, it's just atoms and molecules held together by an electromagnetic charge. A table is as solid as the air which surrounds it. However, shape shifting isn't something that I believe in. First of all, what would be the point in changing one's physical appearance? Secondly, it would be far easier to control people by far less extreme measures, spreading fear, like making them believe there are shape shifting entities which are going to harm them but they'll never see who they are, you could be sitting next to one, etc.
amethyst
08-11-2009, 05:47 PM
Some things that David Ickes (and others) say about Reptilians i can go with and some things i cant.
When he talks about Humans having a Reptilian Brain within our Human Brain which is the seat of aggression and territoriality, and that the Elite are manipulating it i can go with that theory.
A Little further out when he talks about entities that look Reptilian, still evan though its far out i can got for it, for instance just look at the Christian conception of the Devil.
The Problem i have is the "Shape-Shifting" element of David Theory, I have heard him explain how a supposedly Solid object is not acctuly solid and that Shape-Shifting is acctuly very simple, although i still dont agree.
I dont believe in this dense realm it is acctuly physicaly possible for an Object to shapeshift.
any arguments and comments are welcome.
Have you never heard of "possession" before? It's sort of like that......
Reptilians are spiritual, multi-dimensional beings...meaning, they can materialize in several dimensions, not just our dimension....but as I understand, one also has to have a vibrational frequency (ie: bloodline) in order to fully manifest. And also one must give the invitation, or permission to allow them to manifest.
Darketernal is quite knowledgeable about this.
icarus
08-11-2009, 06:11 PM
I'm not too keen on the whole shape shifting thing, unless he's being prosaic when he says it. Perhaps Mr Icke is playing with words.
The other two though are sensible, as in reptilian leftovers in our brains affecting some more than others, or even that some try to use in order to do some of the astonishingly wicked things we see in the world.
It's undeniable to me that some of these characters assume a similar look, perhaps where the warhawk term comes from. Just look at Tony Blair from when he came into office to now. He's a different man!
Continuing with ideas for shapeshifting:
14.
Do you know that Sharks can sense/see electric fields!
Well, Maybe a species of dinosaur lived in caves and escaped the extinction event.
And maybe they wear able to use ancient DNA that was re-actived/switched on that use to exist in some fish such as sharks.
Perhaps seeing electric fields allowed the reptiles to see in caves and to be able to see the bio-electric field of other animals in the caves. Perhaps the reptiles were able to pulse their own field and see the reflection of the field from the walls of the cave (instead of sound echo location like bats they developed electric fields echo location). Evolving this sense could turn out to be very useful to them.
Perhaps they evolved to be able to control their own pulsing bio-field such that they could mimic the bio-fields of other animals to attract animals or to scare them or even pulse the field so as to create an effect on other creates brains that allows the target creature to be paralyzed! (Many abducties report being paralyzed). Perhaps this evolved to the point where they could read and write from/to peoples minds images and suggestions (maybe the military captured one of these creatures and reversed engineered the bio-field signals by monitoring them and the effects and then reproducing the bio-field signals in a portable pistol such that they can do MIND CONTROL on victims!). Perhaps the grey aliens were more successful if they practiced making other animals hallucinate terrible things and made the animals easy targets to be captured and eaten, so perhaps they evolved to the point where we would consider them evil because they like negative thoughts and get pleasure from reading your mind during such thoughts. Maybe reading neg thoughts allow them to gain insight and to be able to apply neg thoughts on to animals to make them not care about their life or to be too preoccupied to run away.
Perhaps they evolved on earth down 2 lines - chupacabra and the grey aliens.
The chupacabra are like our dogs. Where as the grey aliens are very intelligent and evil.
Their ability of using their own bio-electric field is what makes them able to make you see them as humans.
The hallucination I had during day time for 1-2 weeks after head injury was of what appeared as hybrids. Skin grey and like human skin, basically appear as a cross between dogs, humans and aliens in appearance. Where as my night time abduction 'dream':confused: was of the full grey aliens, not hybrids.
snakesnladders
09-11-2009, 12:20 PM
Some things that David Ickes (and others) say about Reptilians i can go with and some things i cant.
When he talks about Humans having a Reptilian Brain within our Human Brain which is the seat of aggression and territoriality, and that the Elite are manipulating it i can go with that theory.
A Little further out when he talks about entities that look Reptilian, still evan though its far out i can got for it, for instance just look at the Christian conception of the Devil.
The Problem i have is the "Shape-Shifting" element of David Theory, I have heard him explain how a supposedly Solid object is not acctuly solid and that Shape-Shifting is acctuly very simple, although i still dont agree.
I dont believe in this dense realm it is acctuly physicaly possible for an Object to shapeshift.
any arguments and comments are welcome.
um, ... i fear you may be slightly wrong there.
but i dont blame you for thinking that.
the world is a frigging weird place, my friend.
I dont believe in this dense realm it is acctuly physicaly possible for an Object to shapeshift.
any arguments and comments are welcome.
Regarding "IDEA 3" I made in this thread
And see my following post:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058436288&postcount=16
This sounds like a very good explanation for shape shifting and is backed to a degree by Russian experiments on frogs.
Before I thought/brainstormed for ideas not worrying if they were silly or not, but NOW having read that Russian scientists research in DNA and transformation of frogs I NOW believe it is possible for an alien reptile to have an ability to shape shift.
Some things that David Ickes (and others) say about Reptilians i can go with and some things i cant.
When he talks about Humans having a Reptilian Brain within our Human Brain which is the seat of aggression and territoriality, and that the Elite are manipulating it i can go with that theory.
A Little further out when he talks about entities that look Reptilian, still evan though its far out i can got for it, for instance just look at the Christian conception of the Devil.
The Problem i have is the "Shape-Shifting" element of David Theory, I have heard him explain how a supposedly Solid object is not acctuly solid and that Shape-Shifting is acctuly very simple, although i still dont agree.
I dont believe in this dense realm it is acctuly physicaly possible for an Object to shapeshift.
any arguments and comments are welcome.
This I can buy, but all predators are territorial and aggressive. So, really, wherever we evolved from was likely a predator. Our behaviour would only be weird if we were calm herbivores who all of a sudden are violent SOBs. lol. So maybe we did descend from dinosaurs because anything is POSSIBLE.
I really don't buy the reptilian shape shifting stuff, unless he means it symbolically. Not saying it's not possible, I don't know, I just don't think it's likely. *shrug*
size_of_light
25-11-2009, 07:42 AM
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I have listened to David Ickes explanation of this, he says "The World is not Solid and is made of Atoms and Atoms have solidity therefore Shape-Shifting is possible" but the way see there world is yes it is true that the World is Holographic, Atoms have no solidity and as the deepest level everything is Energy but while your Consciousness is seated in a "Physical Body, Biological Computer" you cannot shape-shift your vehicle.
Arguments and Comments welcome.
Just one:
Why not?
camreeno
25-11-2009, 10:09 AM
I think you have to touch up on your research to understand this stuff. At first I didn't know what the hell he was talking about with this interdemensional, holographic universe, "frequency field" (he uses the words frequency and vibrational a lot), so I know where you are.
The way I understand it now is that these reptilians are just presenting a human form as a holographic mask disguising their real appearance. If you read books about the universe really being holographic and not "real" you'll understand how this can be done perfectly easily. Once you consider that everything is consciousness and everything is just a product of our mind to this "internet" of a hologram, you can see how things really work and how these seemingly crazy glitches in physics are actually possible...
When someone shape-shifts all what's going on is their body is just turning a "dial" and changing their presented appearance like switching between stations on a radio. They don't physically morph into a reptilian form, but remember it's all holographic and that's not what's happening. They just consciously change which "suit" they want to be in, and their "dial" will turn to the other appearance at will.
kindred76
28-11-2009, 06:04 PM
Some things that David Ickes (and others) say about Reptilians i can go with and some things i cant.
When he talks about Humans having a Reptilian Brain within our Human Brain which is the seat of aggression and territoriality, and that the Elite are manipulating it i can go with that theory.
A Little further out when he talks about entities that look Reptilian, still evan though its far out i can got for it, for instance just look at the Christian conception of the Devil.
The Problem i have is the "Shape-Shifting" element of David Theory, I have heard him explain how a supposedly Solid object is not acctuly solid and that Shape-Shifting is acctuly very simple, although i still dont agree.
I dont believe in this dense realm it is acctuly physicaly possible for an Object to shapeshift.
any arguments and comments are welcome.
hi there.
in quantum physics it was found that objects are not solid in the universe and everything is made of atoms, atoms are not solid because scientists have split the atom and found nothing, so the only conclision is that the world/ universe is a hologram.
solid objects only seem solid because thats what our brains telll us..us as in conciousness,
so that must be the same with our bodies they are not solid as solid in that sence. dna can transform/ mutate ect so in our physical perspective so callled solid objects can change form! I read that a church leader said " god didnt put the info in the bible because he didnt want us to know, he wants us to think all this is real. and he quoted that he knows that the world/ universe is illusion. can you believe it!!
john