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anna

08-11-2009, 12:32 AM

faulconandsnowjob

08-11-2009, 01:06 AM

I knew it was a dark spirit when you told me it said God had turned His back on you. That was a dead giveaway.

trepidation

08-11-2009, 01:16 AM

I wonder if it's possible that most cases of 'schizophrenia' are of the ethereal sort... I mean, look at the name, it literally translates to "split mind". This must have been a misunderstanding when the name was coined, as the supposed 'split' mind could have in reality just been a host of spirits making horrific suggestions to people's psyches.

I feel for your situation and have reason to believe that I have also had negative spiritual influences in my own life, as well as a spiritual leech of some sort on my neck, but these things seem to have dissipated since I bought orgonite. Have you tried making or buying some orgonite? It could help purify your home as well as cleanse and protect your spirit. I wear a pendant everywhere I go...

faulconandsnowjob

08-11-2009, 01:20 AM

I wonder if it's possible that most cases of 'schizophrenia' are of the ethereal sort... I mean, look at the name, it literally translates to "split mind". This must have been a misunderstanding when the name was coined, as the supposed 'split' mind could have in reality just been a host of spirits making horrific suggestions to people's psyches.

I absolutely agree w/ this. I don't think it's possible for a person to have a "split mind," ie multiple focal points, in this reality/dimension. I think what is going on w/ creating alters, in for ex MKULTRA, is actually demon possession. There is even an element of satanic ritualism in these barbaric procedures, according to Svali, Arizona Wilder, Leo Zagami, etc. Sirhan Sirhan, a likely delta-programmed mk assassin-victim, claimed he didn't remember anything about the shooting of Robert Kennedy. Maybe he was literally not present, ie that something else took over his body.

nioz

08-11-2009, 04:12 AM

this can be a cause of attempting OBE's, using ouija boards, black magic, sigils and all that stuff.

anna

08-11-2009, 12:26 PM

I wonder if it's possible that most cases of 'schizophrenia' are of the ethereal sort...
Have you tried making or buying some orgonite? It could help purify your home as well as cleanse and protect your spirit. I wear a pendant everywhere I go...

No, I have never used orgonite, but I have heard about it. I see there are some YouTube videos about it.

Since this has happened to me and others I've met, I wonder too if many cases of schizophrenia are caused by spirits.

I'm really glad that you aren't being bothered by whatever was influencing you in the past.

anna

08-11-2009, 03:27 PM

I knew it was a dark spirit when you told me it said God had turned His back on you. That was a dead giveaway.

Hey Faulcon, By the time I told you that there was already a lot that had happened and I never told you about it. I just don't know why I never turned to anyone for help. I think they kept me so involved in the story line that was being played out, I never had any time to think and I guess their hold was too strong for me to reason anything. . . I don't know. They kept the story line going all day and all night except when I was asleep.

merlincove

08-11-2009, 03:50 PM

nicolaj

08-11-2009, 04:12 PM

anna

08-11-2009, 07:21 PM

hey anna :D

it sounds like you have had one heck of a journey.

Can i ask who it was you contacted who removed the spirit attachmnets and sent you protection?

And do you feel your encounter has given you a faith of kinds, i re-connection with creator source or an aspect of comfort in the presence of soul / spirit as an ever lasting consciousness?

Best

M

Hi Merlincove, :) The man who removed the spirit attachments lives in Canada. He doesn't have a website. I've never even spoken with him but I am so grateful for what he did.

The first thing I noticed after they were gone was that I didn't wake up in the mornings with an anxious feeling in my stomach. Still, it has taken a long time for me to get over a lot of things that happened as well as the bad thoughts and feelings I had been feeling. I don't even know how to explain it, but it was like I had been left with a 'residue' of negativity from everything that had happened. That has gotten a lot better but I know that I had help from the other side in removing this 'residue'.

Charlene was doing Soul Beginning videos for people on her YT channel and I asked to find out how my soul began. When she did my video she was blocked. The Guide who had been sent to me and who was asked to removed the spirit attachments, was blocking any activity that may go on around me. When she told him who she was and what she was doing, she then had access to the information she needed to finish my video.

What has changed for me is that I know without a doubt that there are Beings on the other side who are protecting us (and guiding us) and that they have an enormous job. But there is a lot I'm still trying to understand at this point and to try to explain any more seems to come out not making sense:) So I'll leave it at this for now.

anna

08-11-2009, 07:28 PM

most of these supposedly mental illness's are demonic possessions, The worlds answer is to fill these people up with posion.

I was so against the medications they want to put you on when they think you have a mental disorder. I shuttered when I realized I would have to take these drugs. But after I got home I realized I didn't have to take them, so I stopped, because I KNEW it wasn't in my head. No more voices and I'm feeling good - without the drugs. But I'm sure this can't be the case for everyone. I know very little about any of this and I am not saying it's ok for someone to stop taking their medication. But in the event of a spirit attack, drugs aren't going to help you anyway. And the side effects of these drugs are far from desirable.

anna

08-11-2009, 07:29 PM

this can be a cause of attempting OBE's, using ouija boards, black magic, sigils and all that stuff.

I had been using a pendulum at the time. I don't use it any more.

soleil

08-11-2009, 07:47 PM

this can be a cause of attempting OBE's, using ouija boards, black magic, sigils and all that stuff.

I'm curious about astral projection. If I did that, do I risk mental or psychic problems?

merlincove

08-11-2009, 08:00 PM

Hi Merlincove, :)

What has changed for me is that I know without a doubt that there are Beings on the other side who are protecting us (and guiding us) and that they have an enormous job. But there is a lot I'm still trying to understand at this point and to try to explain any more seems to come out not making sense:) So I'll leave it at this for now.

thanks anna

it is good the the interwb is here to help and sustain people like yourself who have issues that can not be addressed through a dr's surgery or on the High street, that it opens so many doors makes it a valuable tool :D

i'm glad that you have found release and that you are able to move on in freedom with your own consciousness, as a free spirit with divine cause, free from the vampyric attitude of leaches.

One thing to focus on in the future is beyond what you have gained from your ordeal, what defining aspect does it have on your being - why were you targeted so. Often i find that those who are targeted are of great value in some way to the progression of not only theri own understanding but to others'. Lightworkers will often draw attraction from negative entities to thwart their progress and knowledge and their ability to bring understanding to others.

Negative entities often work to dissable connections and gatekeeper light beings to slow them down and keep them trapped in 3d thinking, that is often their goal and task.

Your own journey of escapism shows me that you have a destiny of value :D

Else they would not be trying to stay you.

biblegirl

08-11-2009, 08:32 PM

this is almost like an infomercial for drugs and psychiatric help, but the content is incredible explaining what this girl experienced, which i am inclined to believe was real spiritual attack rather than a "mental condition"

(5 minutes long)

Schizophrenia - YouTube

anna

08-11-2009, 10:34 PM

Hi Biblegirl, That was an interesting video. But if the medication was helping her, I'm not sure it was a spirit attack.

I should have posted the YT video showing Jani Schofield in my first post. The medication Jani's taking is not helping her. That would be a sure sign of spirit attack, I would think.

JANI SCHOFIELD:

Young schizophrenic at her mind's mercy - YouTube

anna

09-11-2009, 12:08 AM

One thing to focus on in the future is beyond what you have gained from your ordeal, what defining aspect does it have on your being - why were you targeted so. Often i find that those who are targeted are of great value in some way to the progression of not only their own understanding but to others'. Lightworkers will often draw attraction from negative entities to thwart their progress and knowledge and their ability to bring understanding to others.

Negative entities often work to dissable connections and gatekeeper light beings to slow them down and keep them trapped in 3d thinking, that is often their goal and task.

Your own journey of escapism shows me that you have a destiny of value :D

Else they would not be trying to stay you.

You are so kind !:) Thank you for your words and encouragement.

I read Courageous Souls by Robert Schwartz after my experience. In that book he give excellent proof - at least to me - that we chose major events in our lives. I wondered if this was something I planned since it was a very major event in my life. In a recent reading I had with Charlene, I learned a bit more about what had happened. She told me (I didn't ask her) that I chose to experience this before coming into this life. I wasn't too surprised and it was good to know that it was I who had wanted this experience, for whatever reason.

You are absolutely correct in what you said about negative entities who don't want us to become enlightened or to learn. This video is explaining about some of this.

Urgent Message

Urgent Message - Please Watch - YouTube

faulconandsnowjob

09-11-2009, 12:34 AM

this can be a cause of attempting OBE's, using ouija boards, black magic, sigils and all that stuff.

I use the ouija board to communicate w/ my spirit guides. Yes, it's true that dark entities can use it, but so can beings of light. I consider the board to be like a telephone - it all depends on who you're talking to. I think it's important to protect yourself from dark entities whether you're trying to communicate w/ the spirit world or not.

faulconandsnowjob

09-11-2009, 12:37 AM

most of these supposedly mental illness's are demonic possessions, The worlds answer is to fill these people up with posion.

Yes, it's basically misdiagnosis - & it makes people even more vulnerable to possession/less able to fight it off.

faulconandsnowjob

09-11-2009, 12:41 AM

I'm curious about astral projection. If I did that, do I risk mental or psychic problems?

I was trying to astrally project for a while, but then I got information that my spirit guides were actually preventing me from doing it. This is b/c when you astrally project, you move into the realm of some pretty dark entities. Not that you shouldn't do it; just be aware of what's out there...

earthwalkr

09-11-2009, 04:43 AM

No, I have never used orgonite, but I have heard about it. I see there are some YouTube videos about it.

Since this has happened to me and others I've met, I wonder too if many cases of schizophrenia are caused by spirits.

I'm really glad that you aren't being bothered by whatever was influencing you in the past.

Anna, my relatives, the Lakotas, firmly believe that schizophrenia IS caused by possession. The last book written by Carlos Castaneda also affirms the presence of ancient beings on another plane of reality, that exist here to FEED off of us and our energy. They must get us emotional in order to do so. Don Juan, (Carlos' teacher /shaman )also states that we have TWO minds. Our natural mind and an IMPLANTED mind that is accessible to these beings.
There's alot here to understand, but most of the time, it is NOT due to an organic problem with the mind.
Interestingly, almost all the treatments given for schizophrenia are hard drugs that leave you unable to function. My ex-sister-in-law was diagnosed with it and put in a mental ward on heavy drugs for many years; and because of budget cuts, was let out on her own!! :eek: This is one truly crazy world!!!

faulconandsnowjob

09-11-2009, 04:51 AM

The last book written by Carlos Castaneda also affirms the presence of ancient beings on another plane of reality, that exist here to FEED off of us and our energy. They must get us emotional in order to do so.

Do you have a resource on this? This is what I've come to believe independently, so it would be interesting to see others' viewpoints on it.

Don Juan, (Carlos' teacher /shaman )also states that we have TWO minds. Our natural mind and an IMPLANTED mind that is accessible to these beings.
Could you explain more about the implanted mind? Is it a difference between the soul's consciousness & the human brain? I guess there are vulnerabilities in the brain that are exploited? If the brain is an interface for the soul to interact w/ this dimension, then maybe it can be
"hacked?"

anna

09-11-2009, 02:02 PM

Anna, my relatives, the Lakotas, firmly believe that schizophrenia IS caused by possession. The last book written by Carlos Castaneda also affirms the presence of ancient beings on another plane of reality, that exist here to FEED off of us and our energy. They must get us emotional in order to do so. Don Juan, (Carlos' teacher /shaman )also states that we have TWO minds. Our natural mind and an IMPLANTED mind that is accessible to these beings.
There's alot here to understand, but most of the time, it is NOT due to an organic problem with the mind.
Interestingly, almost all the treatments given for schizophrenia are hard drugs that leave you unable to function. My ex-sister-in-law was diagnosed with it and put in a mental ward on heavy drugs for many years; and because of budget cuts, was let out on her own!! :eek: This is one truly crazy world!!!

Hi Earthwalker, I'm so sorry about your ex-sister-in-law. Do you know how she is doing now? The drugs they prescribe for people supposedly suffering from mental disorders can and do cause terrible side effects, suicide being the worst. (Doesn't make much sense does it)
Unfortunately, I have never read any of Carlos Castaneda's books; maybe I should check into them.
Thank you for the information you've shared! And I agree about other beings feeding off our FEAR emotions, and doing all they can to keep that emotion going.

earthwalkr

10-11-2009, 01:18 AM

Do you have a resource on this? This is what I've come to believe independently, so it would be interesting to see others' viewpoints on it.

Could you explain more about the implanted mind? Is it a difference between the soul's consciousness & the human brain? I guess there are vulnerabilities in the brain that are exploited? If the brain is an interface for the soul to interact w/ this dimension, then maybe it can be
"hacked?"

I can only tell you the name of the book that this info was in. It is called, " The Active Side of Infinity".

I do not KNOW much about the implanted mind except what I have been taught the past few years and from the above mentioned book. I do know from what I have been taught that the "implanted" mind is similar to a machine attached at birth that interfaces with our normal minds. This machine is accessed by those beings who wish to control us, especially in our dream state; in the dream state we have reinforcing of our programming going on and these beings know how to pull characters from our life into those dreams to emotionally tag us and manipulate us.

Taking time to interpret your dreams is a waste of time. You are attempting to understand their programming and making it personal or prophetic. It is neither. It is programming!!! I wake up and CANCEL my dreams and all that was done to me on all levels of my being during the dream state. They will NOT control me!!

So much is used against us, especially our "minds". We are controlled by our thoughts like robots, which is why one should go with the heart instead. So far, they cannot breach the heart only the mind.

Wish I knew more to tell you.

earthwalkr

10-11-2009, 01:25 AM

Hi Earthwalker, I'm so sorry about your ex-sister-in-law. Do you know how she is doing now? The drugs they prescribe for people supposedly suffering from mental disorders can and do cause terrible side effects, suicide being the worst. (Doesn't make much sense does it)
Unfortunately, I have never read any of Carlos Castaneda's books; maybe I should check into them.
Thank you for the information you've shared! And I agree about other beings feeding off our FEAR emotions, and doing all they can to keep that emotion going.

Last I heard, she lives in a halfway house with other mentally disturbed people and wanders the streets for days at a time. She "broke" in her early thirties and is now about 58. It's sad that no one can help her. I tried by taking her into my home with my kids there, thinking a positive family environment would help. I talked with her, no response. I encouraged her to paint and bought her the supplies, (her favorite activity), which she dove into. But then I found out that she was with my kids and the neighbors kids cutting herself up!!! :eek: The kids freaked and told me about it. How can Aunt Roseanne CUT HERSELF? It was the "last straw" in a series of trying to cope with her issues and not being able to help. I called the cops which called the mental health people and in she went for an eval. I hated doing this, but my kids can't be around someone who is potentially dangerous, y'know? Not a good time. This was in the '80's.

anna

10-11-2009, 04:07 AM

Earthwalkr, that is very sad. I don't really know anything about people who cut themselves, except I think I've heard that the pain of the cutting helps diminish the pain they are feeling inside. Do you have any suspicion that she has spirit attachments?

faulconandsnowjob

10-11-2009, 05:48 AM

I can only tell you the name of the book that this info was in. It is called, " The Active Side of Infinity".

I do not KNOW much about the implanted mind except what I have been taught the past few years and from the above mentioned book.

Thanks for that information. I will try to find out more...

1964

10-11-2009, 06:44 AM

most of these supposedly mental illness's are demonic possessions, The worlds answer is to fill these people up with posion.

Mat 12:43 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none.
Mat 12:44 Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished.
Mat 12:45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.

Hi Nicola,

What you've said is true. People who are involved in all sorts of strange things have no idea of the forces of evil they're playing with. Until they attack. And then the people are really lost, because they haven't believed in the One Who even the demons and the devil himself are terrified of - Jesus Christ.

Look at the Scriptures you quoted, and then consider this:

The disease the medical community calls "schizophrenia" has a particular pattern to it that occurs in not all people, but in many people. "Schizophrenia" is commonly known by doctors to first occur in a person at a younger age - in their teens or twenties. Eventually, over time, the person seems to go into remission and everything is all normal again. But often times, the "schizophrenia" RETURNS at a later time, years into the future. And when that happens, the 'patient' is hit harder than they were the first time.

Another interesting thing:

People who are "schizophrenic" will often experience delusions centered on Jesus Christ and the devil. I'd heard the medical explanation that this has something to do with the culture that people are raised in. If you're raised in a heavily 'Christian' culture, then these religious thoughts get planted in your mind. That's the medical explanation for it.

I was curious about all this, because I don't believe any of it's true. I found a psychiatrist who works in India, where the culture is not predominantly 'Christian', and I emailed him. I asked him, when people in India are diagnosed with schizophrenia, do they suffer the same delusions as people here in the west? Delusions about God and Satan. He wrote me back and said yes, the 'symptoms' are no different in India. People raised in India, or who are raised to believe in a completely different 'god', will still have delusions about Jesus Christ and Satan when they become "schizophrenic".

The scariest case I ever met of someone who'd been diagnosed with this 'disease' was a man who did nothing but pace back and forth, mumbling curses at Jesus Christ.

People just have no idea of the evil they're playing with, and what it can do to them. What's worse, they don't even believe in the only One Who can save them.

tazika

13-11-2009, 05:59 PM

Hallo from the Balkan! (middleeast Europe)
I had experiences with evil spiritual beeings, and I see that all you've wrote here is true. In Italy, exorcist Gabriel Amorth with his team prayed above all patients in one italian mental institution, if I correctly remember it was mostly schizofreniacs, and after the prayers a lot over 50% were completely cured and freed to go home without any medications. If you are interrested in details, I can look in my book about it.
I would like to add something on texts that Nikolaj took from the Bible, and 1964. commented: yes, that's true- if a demon leave the person, and that person stays "empty", demon will come back with a bunch of his pals. That's the reason why a person that was tortured by demons has to fulfill himself with - with whoever he wants, but I choose The Holy Spirit. As long as I, or any person, is fulfilled with God's presence, demons can not come in. They can attack from outside, but have no entrance in a person.
Oh, it's not easy o talk about non-material world in my own language, but in a foreign... if you would like to hear more from me, or my own experiances, ask me and I will continue.

faulconandsnowjob

13-11-2009, 06:10 PM

Tazika, please do tell us more! You're doing great in English :)

I believe a demon (dark Reptilian entity) can take over a person's body & drive the original soul out. I'm not sure if it can actually "kill" a soul in this dimension. I tend to think not, since many of us are mentally projecting into this reality (David Icke explained it as looking through the "telescope" of the body - see his Melbourne 2009 lecture). So, how could it kill a mental projection?

I've also gotten that for me, personally, Rafael (archangel & one of my spirit guides (real name is Raivata)) has been protecting me from such attacks.

faulconandsnowjob

13-11-2009, 08:38 PM

Stepford Wives thread was closed after we started focusing in on demon possession. I think we're making some people nervous :D

tazika

14-11-2009, 03:05 PM

Uuups! :o
well that happens everywhere when people start talking about "demons", especially "demonic posessions": since I had my expirience and got insight into the existance of evil spirits, I've quickly learned to shut up in a bigger group of discutants (to avoid shouting of all kinds). The best thing is that people that had experiences talk about them in private. Although, before I was inlighted, I listened politely&curiously every talk about that subject, but I couldn't understand a thing from it.
As I've said in the beginning, first problem is in non-existant vocabular: one of the words that has the most different meanings is "a demon". Nearly every person has slightly, or completely different idea about the meaning of that word. But to write "evil spiritual beeing that can in smaller or bigger measure influence a human" would be too long. "Dark reptilian entity" is only one of the kind; although they do exist in enormous number, some other sorts exist too. On the other hand, if we say "non-material beeing" that wide definition can be found in every culture in every time and place. That's because they do exist.
I hope that, after my long and boring introduction, we won't "make some people nervous" and our thread won't be closed, because we talk about something that does exist, that can't be scientifically proved, and yes, in our culture&time it is usually called "demonic posession".

ANNA - That "man who removed the spirit attachments and lives in Canada", what did he DO to free you from the attacks you had?

2. I'm confused by you saying that your recovery goes slowly. Because in the very moment that I felt that my "evil spiritual beeings" went out of me, my relief was so evident that I started to laugh and selebrate, what I still do after more than 6 years, without a moment of relapse!
Surely I went through all the bad things that were happening in my life, and I asked myself how could I be so blind not to realize that "non-material beeings" were coming to torture me. THAT lasted first year after my liberation frequently, now not so often, as I already went through all.

aulconandsnowjob: I insisted and finally I won, so we baptized our (only) son with the name RAFAEL. I had many reasons to call him so. I had few chronical, medically non-curable illnesses, and I was atheist. During my pregnancy I got well and stayed well!!! -even doctors laughed and congratulated me! During the birth I saw 2 tall Angels standing at both my sides, looking that child will be born well, and then I decided to be baptized as soon as I will get on my feet. The nearest church was rimocatholic, so I am a Catholic, what really is not importaint - baptizaton is. Soon I was on a mass lead by one of the best European exorcists, and he said to some of us (over 10 people) to stay after a mass so he can try to liberate us. In my case - he did.
When I saw film "The Exorcist" AFTER my experience, I wondered why film presentes so little of manifestations? In that 2 hours I saw far more and far scarier things than man can see in that film.
I hope this thread won't be closed now

aulconandsnowjob - as for your wonders: mostly people suffer as Anna did, or they think that sometimes they have "bad temper" abd they can't stop doing bad things - course, fight, break; in my case I had deep sadness that asked for a suicide, and, as ANNA said, I could not talk about my uneartly sadness to anyone, as if my mouth were locked for that subject. I couldn't even write about it - my friends would find me in that state, and even offered me a paper, but I was "locked" about giving any info about it.
Some people, for instance my mother had it before, would "switch off" and that other personality would "switch on" (and it hated me unearthly), and later she would not remember what she talked or did. She thought that I was abnormal, not her. Complete taking over is extremely rare.
My exorcist says that mostly you can't realize what's wrong with the person, as well as you can't see that your computer has a virus untill you put anti-virus programme. In this case anti-virus programm is the prayer.

faulconandsnowjob

14-11-2009, 06:25 PM

well that happens everywhere when people start talking about "demons", especially "demonic posessions":
So I'm learning! This is really a sensitive area. If there were nothing to it, people certainly would not attack & prevent discussion like they do. It just makes it so obvious that there's something there to get that sort of reaction.

So, you think there are other dark entities besides Reptilians? Do you have any idea what?

Faulconandsnowjob: I insisted and finally I won, so we baptized our (only) son with the name RAFAEL. I had many reasons to call him so.

Rafael is one of my spirit guides. I have gotten that he has protected me from attack...

During the birth I saw 2 tall Angels standing at both my sides
Do you have any idea who they were?

When I saw film "The Exorcist" AFTER my experience, I wondered why film presentes so little of manifestations? In that 2 hours I saw far more and far scarier things than man can see in that film.
What did you see? I read a book by a psychiatrist several years ago who was talking about demon possession. He said "The Exorcist" was based on a true story that happened to a little boy.

Some people, for instance my mother had it before, would "switch off" and that other personality would "switch on" (and it hated me unearthly), and later she would not remember what she talked or did. She thought that I was abnormal, not her. Complete taking over is extremely rare.
I'm really starting to think that demon possession is used in mind control. The victims of MKULTRA abusive programming, such as Sirhan Sirhan, claim to not remember anything about the events (such as shooting Robert Kennedy). I think it's because they really are not present at the time - that something else has taken over the body.

My exorcist says that mostly you can't realize what's wrong with the person, as well as you can't see that your computer has a virus untill you put anti-virus programme. In this case anti-virus programm is the prayer.
Yes, prayer is the ticket. I don't know if humans are strong enough to keep "demons" away, but God & the "angels" are :)

madamlasher

16-11-2009, 08:10 AM

faulconandsnowjob

16-11-2009, 08:07 PM

I sometimes think why do demons, evil entities possess people?

Maybe they're looking for a way to "live" in this dimension...? Rather than manifest their own physical body, it might be more expedient for them to just take over someone else's. Depending on the persona they have taken over, they may inherit that person's wealth, influence, credibility, etc.

tazika

18-11-2009, 02:17 PM

So I'm learning! This is really a sensitive area. If there were nothing to it, people certainly would not attack & prevent discussion like they do. It just makes it so obvious that there's something there to get that sort of reaction.

I was baptized at the age of 40, liberated when I was 41. My friends noticed I've changed, that I am blooming from joy and health, all my fears and problems gone, but as soon as I told them that demons exist, that I was torutred by them but God is stronger and God has liberated me, I saw them all jumping out of their chairs and yelling into my face that it's not true! I've NEVER seen them act like that! Soon all my friends and relatives started to call me and come, as the most importaint thing in their lives is to make me tell it is not true. Of course I couldn't deny God... so it lasted. I stopped talking about it.
Don't forget that we are born and raised in Yugoslavia, where only some "old illiterate peasants were primitive enough to go to church" - demons really did grat job with that communism, ha?

So, you think there are other dark entities besides Reptilians? Do you have any idea what?

Yes, sure. I was born with a dark entitie that I got from my mother, still don't know who it was. I suppose some of her abortions before me, but I can't be sure. It sucked life out of me, and produced unbarible sorrow. It also opened the doors into me to groups of other demons, mostly they produced similar emotions: lonelyness, senseless, fears, all that led to suicidal thoughts. But IT WASN'T ME!!! Not knowing for anything non-material, I knew it was not my feelings or thoughts.

Do you have any idea who they were?

What did you see? I read a book by a psychiatrist several years ago who was talking about demon possession. He said "The Exorcist" was based on a true story that happened to a little boy.

One of them I did see several times, he looked human, like a man made of darkness, half of his head missing (his right half) and he was followed by hundreeds of mad little animals like cats or rats, making big noise. Once when they (again) attacked me I was not alone in the room, and all the furniture strted to lift in the air. Others jumped from their beds in horror, shouted and runned from the appartement, and just few hours ago they were laughing at me when I told them that I feel that evil presence coming.

Yes, I believe that EXORCISED is based on a true story, but only one. I saw all the sam as in a film, only no human host would survive that turning of the head.
When I was liberated, it was maybe 10 of us together, so I saw 10 of them in one evening, and I don't remember any of them beeing reptiles. One demon was pig-like, screaming awfully, in a nice lady was the cat. The pig came in a lady with Balkan witchcraft (she ate pig's heart that was well prepared for it) and was sent to kill her, so during the prayer pig would turn her head around to break her neck, but the lady herself, as well as the priest's helpers, were holding her head so it won't happen.
I was terrified the most with one nice young man beeing completely overtaken by a demon who talked and laughed in some deep blackman's voice, and soon I've learned it's a woodoo demon. He rolled with a man around, and that man produced some white stuff from his mouth, like wool, bags of it! It took me few years to realize that from all the bunch only that woodoo demon was confused with what was happening! I've read how woodoo people call that demon inside them, and then he makes jokes and they all laugh! So he was expecting a crazy party, NOT all that frightened people, evil demons and priest that shouts on him in the language he can't understand!
So those were not reptiles.

I'm really starting to think that demon possession is used in mind control. The victims of MKULTRA abusive programming, such as Sirhan Sirhan, claim to not remember anything about the events (such as shooting Robert Kennedy). I think it's because they really are not present at the time - that something else has taken over the body.

Yes, it took me 40 years and some over it to realize that my mother really does not remember evil things she was doing to me. I've found some other people with similar problems with their mothers, and all of those mothers had bad luck in 2nd World War - those children that were in the woods, following the partizans. It seems that was the time it got into them. Also in the same time that children became atheists. So evil ones really did grat job with wars!!!

Yes, prayer is the ticket. I don't know if humans are strong enough to keep "demons" away, but God & the "angels" are :)

Humans are not strong enough to win the evil spirits alone, but when they include the High Spirits in the battle, then - easily!!! That is the reason why demons want to keep that knowledge far from us. That's why they jump on us (through our friends) the very moment when we come to that knowledge!

tazika

18-11-2009, 02:32 PM

Uuuups :o
I thought that I'm quoting only some short qustions and then answering one by one, but it all came out as a big quote. This above are my answers to faulconandsnowjob's questions.

tazika

18-11-2009, 02:48 PM

Thank you Anna for sharing this.

This topic intrigues me and when I was a child it was one of my biggest fears. As my parents were not very religious I wasn't baptised as a baby, As a young child my friend in school told me about possession and said I could get possessed as i wasn't baptised; yeah I know great thing to tell a child.

I sometimes think why do demons, evil entities possess people? are they feeding off your energy?

I hope you're okay Anna I send healing energy to you :)

Oh how those kids lied to you! I supposed that lie was told by their parents, and who lied to the parents? Demons, I suppose. Because if they would just read The Bible, they would notice that demons attack the holy people in the worst way.
Demons do feed with us, especially with our fears and with all what's negative - and they produce negative feelings in us (from TV programmes to the wars) so they can feed more. Then, as faulconandsnowjob said, they try to live in this dimension. For me the biggest question was: why does God allow it?!
And here is the big answer: God wants us to be spiritual warriors, just as Isus was, as apostoles were, as millions are now. God wants us to search for the root of evil and to fight it. To choose wheather we are His or satan's, and to say it loud.
If my life would always be smooth and nice, I would be the nice person and that would be it. But because I had to suffer to the near end of my strength, and over my human strength, I had to search for the reason of souch an unhuman evil and for the help Above: and I have found God, and people and spirits that are in God. It was extremly painful search, but it is so beautyful to win!

faulconandsnowjob

18-11-2009, 06:31 PM

mark1963

18-11-2009, 07:12 PM

I've read this thread with great interest. I had mental challenges in 2002 and I have come to believe that they were entity related.

When you say that humans do not have the strength to overcome their entity attacks, I would have to say I would disagree. With the power of my intent I overcame mine, but, I had to be very careful though. I had to emote and totally believe I was a cleansed soul and body. I had to - and this is the hardest bit - everytime I would think about thinking about the entity I had to mentally change the thoughts to one of love and complete joy, bliss, etc.

So before I had the actual thought about the entity I would feel it coming on and change the subject so to speak. In other words I gave it no foothold on my being.

I think that all these horror films that are about put people in a frame of mind that allows easy entrance from one of these beings. I have no proof, just some thoughts.

faulconandsnowjob

18-11-2009, 07:57 PM

When you say that humans do not have the strength to overcome their entity attacks, I would have to say I would disagree... I had to - and this is the hardest bit - everytime I would think about thinking about the entity I had to mentally change the thoughts to one of love and complete joy, bliss, etc.
So, you raised your energy vibration, so that it couldn't get near you, right? You made your energy incompatible?

I think that all these horror films that are about put people in a frame of mind that allows easy entrance from one of these beings.
I totally agree w/ this. It people's energy is "low," it makes them more vulnerable to attack b/c their energy is compatible w/ the dark entity's. JMO

mark1963

18-11-2009, 08:27 PM

Yes, energy vibration - I hadn't thought of it that way - but yes it fits very well.

I have been thinking about these films a bit more - and low energy. What about all the toxins we ingest, breathe in every day - wouldn't they lower the vibrations of your energy and would that not leave the door open, so to speak.

Of course I am only talking about being vulnerable say at certain times, emotional troughs that sort of thing otherwise we would all be possesed by these things all the time and that is clearly not the case - I hope.

Trouble is of course, it's like the ticking of a clock - you get so used to it being there, you just do not hear it anymore - and that's what a low emotional level is like - we just do not notice it anymore because we generally are in it all the time due to the mass mind controlling and toxins we have all around us.

It must be like feeding time at the zoo for these entities.

faulconandsnowjob

18-11-2009, 10:50 PM

Yes, energy vibration - I hadn't thought of it that way - but yes it fits very well.

I have been thinking about these films a bit more - and low energy. What about all the toxins we ingest, breathe in every day - wouldn't they lower the vibrations of your energy and would that not leave the door open, so to speak.

I had thought before that the toxins, TV, etc, were meant to keep people from waking up spiritually. However, there is that possibility that it is meant to make them vulnerable to demonic attack... I struggled for years to "wake up," but where I lived was very polluted. I meditated & prayed, but I was not able to wake up until I moved to another area that, significantly I think, did not add fluoride to the water. I also went off TV, meat & other animal products, quit drinking, etc. So... Yeah, it seems to be a matter of raising your energy to a certain level so that you can "snap out of it."

Of course I am only talking about being vulnerable say at certain times, emotional troughs that sort of thing otherwise we would all be possesed by these things all the time and that is clearly not the case - I hope.
Yes, but there are many people who are still sleep-walking... I still think that keeping your energy very high is a great defense against malevolent entities.

faulconandsnowjob

19-11-2009, 06:40 AM

Some pertinent stuff in this article:

Reptilian Bloodlines
http://hardtruth.navhost.com/bloodlines.html

tazika

19-11-2009, 03:41 PM

Yes, the demons/agents for the demons have done a good job convincing people there is no such thing as God, angels, or demons. People have no idea what to do if they are attacked spiritually. I watch these shows here about hauntings & demon possessions, & the people are so clueless. It never seems to occur to them to ask for help from God & the angels. Sad.

I wonder if Reptilians can manifest their own bodies in this dimension, or if they are limited to taking over others' bodies...

Yes, in all those films humans are just victims that are trying to survive the attack of demons. Even film-priests don't call the Higher Beeings into the battle! Yet it is so easy - every person with a belief can simply call The Name of Isus Christ, or even stronger: His Blood, and all that demons are won in a moment!!! I've tried, and for me it is much easier to say to the demon (that comes in my thoughts or feelings) - "Go out of my brain in The Name of Isus Christ!" then to run from him again and again. This is simpler, quicker, and I have my brain free to think about whatever I wish.
But, as you said: we are trained to think we're helpless victims...

2. I don't know, I saw only human-like demons, and little animal-like, but only as the shadows, or in the people. Yet my son, as soon as he learned first words, started to talk about Father Snake coming to teach him. He went to the kindergarten at the age 4, so all he said before it he couldn't hear from nobody. I kept cheking (in The Bible, enciklopedias, Google...) what Father Snake was teaching him, and never he said anyithing out of the subject. Kid told me that he "comes in a shape of a big old snake", and he has shrink a bit to fit into boy's room. If father or I come in his room, F.Sn. hides himself in a toy. My son started to call his own father "my earthly father" and snake was the real one.
Once my son was very happy, saying that F.Sn. has showed his real shape: the old dragon. And that's not the last shape he has, Sn.said to the boy.

All the time I was simply listening, never made a fuss of it. My husband and I decided to baptized him, but allways something would come in a way, some normal things, nothing weird. I broke when I found my son sitting in some yoga position (we don't do yoga) breathing in through the left nostrill, out through the right. He said that father snake told him to do so.
I've found some yoga-forum and they've told me that's the Kobra breathing, that openes the kanal for kontakting the snake beeings.
We had quite a problems to take son to the church: above all kid started to cough so hard that no medicine could stop it. I've lied, I was saying loud that we're not going to baptization but to the doctor, so that let us drive (it was breaking car, locks etc.) and we rushed to the church just in the middle of baptization of kids. As soon as the priest put the first drop of Holy Water on a boy, he was healthy. Since then I am really angry on the snake family.

Story is much longer, I'm tired, maybe you're not interrested so much. I am telling you things that I've seen with my own eyes, not what I've read in the book. Snakes were just angry on me later. My cousin later told me that he has to give the massage to my son?! He apologized for interrupting in my life, as we meet once in 5 years, but some snake beeings contacted him telling him that for the moment they can't make a contact with my son (5 years old child!!!) so they asked him to say to their!!! child that they take care about him, they watch him from above, they are allways here to help him, and they will make kontakt later. He told it to ME, of course. To underline what they said, and cousin couldn't have a clu about it, there was a massage for me: feed him as you used to, don't continue with this new menu!
And the fact was that I allways tried to feed him healthy, and last time I simply gave up fighting and allowed him to eat crap food from hipermarkets and drink Coke. I was tired of fight! And child wanted to eat the same junk as other kids in kindergarten.

mark1963

19-11-2009, 06:35 PM

mark1963

19-11-2009, 06:36 PM

Some pertinent stuff in this article:

Reptilian Bloodlines
http://hardtruth.navhost.com/bloodlines.html

I am looking at it now, looks like good information.

Thank you.

faulconandsnowjob

22-11-2009, 02:04 AM

Anna Hayes talks about the intruders trying to take over bodies about 1/2 way thru:

Rare- Contactee Anna Hayes - Angelic Realities Part2

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

anna

22-11-2009, 10:31 PM

ANNA - That "man who removed the spirit attachments and lives in Canada", what did he DO to free you from the attacks you had?

2. I'm confused by you saying that your recovery goes slowly. Because in the very moment that I felt that my "evil spiritual beeings" went out of me, my relief was so evident that I started to laugh and selebrate, what I still do after more than 6 years, without a moment of relapse!
Surely I went through all the bad things that were happening in my life, and I asked myself how could I be so blind not to realize that "non-material beeings" were coming to torture me. THAT lasted first year after my liberation frequently, now not so often, as I already went through all.

Hi Tazika, I later found out from Charlene/atomarane, that the protection is one of the Archangels. It was asked that His name not be given to me. I can tell you that He is a temporary protector and Guide and that when other Guides have been trained in how to handle what happened to me, He will turn his job over to them. I was told that I have gone through soul cleansings. I have never spoken directly to the man in Canada who did the removal for me and all I knew at the time is that he put protection around me.

The problem I had even after the spirit attachments were removed were with my emotions and my thoughts. I had listened to the voice in my head for about 3 to 4 months (just guessing). I was told so many awful things about myself during that time and even after the voice was no longer there (by the second week in Nov. 2008) I still had bad thoughts and feelings about the people I loved and about God. So, I had many months that I BELIEVED these thoughts and feelings were coming from me. I was SO ashamed and felt SO much guilt that I guess my mind had become convinced it WAS me, and that is why it has taken this long for me to finally accept and forgive myself and KNOW it wasn't me. It's like all the negativity that existed around me for all those months had left a "reside" on me - that's the only way I know to explain it. . . that's probably the reason for the soul cleansings. I hope this helps explain.

anna

22-11-2009, 10:50 PM

I sometimes think why do demons, evil entities possess people? are they feeding off your energy?

I hope you're okay Anna I send healing energy to you :)

Thank you so much madamlasher! I am doing so good now. Everyday seems to be better and I'm not constantly thinking on the past -something that was VERY hard for me to stop. It was a life altering event and it's not something that is easily forgotten.

From what I have learned from Charlene, is that there are dark spirits out there and this is their fun - attacking people. They try to stop people from becoming enlightened - they want to be in control and do not want to relinquish this POWER TRIP they are on . . . . . The next question is, why does God allow this to happen?

This is my truth. It may not be someone else's truth - but, God has given us free will. That would mean in the physical world and in the spirit world. There are certain Universal Laws that God created when everything was created and one of those laws would be that of karma. So, they will, somehow, have to pay their debt for the hurt they have caused. I wouldn't want to be them.

Yes, I do believe they feed off our fear, definitely!

faulconandsnowjob

23-11-2009, 07:04 AM

Shape-shifting & possession about 3 minutes in:

Rare- Contactee Anna Hayes - Angelic Realities Part25
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

linda28

23-11-2009, 07:04 PM

linda28

23-11-2009, 07:23 PM

Anna - - I watched the YT videos. You have one hell of a story. I recognize some of my own experiences as well. I know where you have been regarding the going insane part when having those empty dark thoughts that wants to push you into doing crazy things.
When I used meds for some time, that's when it got 10000 times worse, so I dont know what really happened - if it was the meds, or if it was my lowered being who was so low then that demons entered.

I used to live in Africa some years ago and before that I had no idea that demons are real. My experience there was that someone tried to kill me, it's still uncomfy to talk about as I have nightmares about it still. What happened was that I started to bleed down there out of control. The whole bathroom was filled with blood. I was certain I was gonna die, but did not, thank God. The bleeding continued for days. Later, I felt a demon enter the apartment and implanted thoughts into my mind, about how the people I was with, was visiting, was so evil to me, and I should turn my back on them. This was so weird, since I felt the energy literally enter, and was aware that it was all illusion. It came from jealous people somewhere, probably within family or neighbourhood in the black communty, that did not want me, the white girl, staying there. They used black magic.

Someone mentioned here obe's - hm, this reminds me that I feel a lot of crazy stuff started happening to me after I almost had one of those. When attempting some innocent teen fun to have obe's - I felt some sparkling energy leave my heart, and ever since, I have not been myself.

Anna - What you say about the demons wants you to stay away from your family, this is something that affects me too. Wow, I had not seen it like this before. This is an awakening. That conlfict of blaming and bitter emotions can of course be a tool to demons to lead you away from them.

Good to hear you are doing better. :) I am too. However, there are still many things to go through. I will think more about what you said now - since I tend to feel many people I meet are projecting demonic acitivity in order to make me have an emotion and opinion of a spiritual issue, to make me feel stuck. The solution is to be positive and know that love never fails :)

Anyway, pendulums is an extension of your brain. It is vibrations, so not demonic. You only get yes and no answers. And I agree that oujija boards and tarot cards in themselves do not attract negative energies if you are strong and aware to fight back. I dont know though.

faulconandsnowjob

23-11-2009, 08:51 PM

So all of Europe, Australia and North America are demon possessed? This is such a difficult subject.

No, I wouldn't say all... But, I would say that a lot of people have fallen under dark influence. It's not their fault, maybe. It's just that w/out spiritual protection, they are vulnerable...

I have learned that I don't actually "channel" on the board. How it seems to work is a combo of telepathy & telekinesis. A thought is sent to me, but then the "person" I'm talking to will also focus on a symbol/letter, which draws the energy towards it. So, I feel the energy swirling around a letter like water swirling down a drain.

anna

23-11-2009, 10:35 PM

Tazika, Please continue your story if you feel like it. I think we all are interested in what you have to say.

anna

23-11-2009, 11:05 PM

Anna - - I watched the YT videos. You have one hell of a story. I recognize some of my own experiences as well. I know where you have been regarding the going insane part when having those empty dark thoughts that wants to push you into doing crazy things.
When I used meds for some time, that's when it got 10000 times worse, so I dont know what really happened - if it was the meds, or if it was my lowered being who was so low then that demons entered.

Anyway, pendulums is an extension of your brain. It is vibrations, so not demonic. You only get yes and no answers. And I agree that oujija boards and tarot cards in themselves do not attract negative energies if you are strong and aware to fight back. I dont know though.

Linda, first let me say that I am so sorry for what you went through. You must have been so frightened. But yes, they can use subjective thought to make you feel all sorts of feelings that really are NOT YOU. These thoughts can have GREAT affect on you! I see now that we must watch what we are thinking and feeling and just be aware that some of these thoughts and feelings are being projected on to us. I also believe that black magic is used on people.

Jackie, from one of those videos, is still having attacks. She has had some really bad days lately. She had the feelings of pins being stuck into her skin, like a shot would feel. She has had thoughts projected on her of one of her children being missing (lost) - one of her greatest fears something happening to a child. Also feelings of anger. But she knows that none of these are her thoughts.

Janelle has had some more attacks also. Both of these women are strong and spiritual. I admire them both.

Charlene had asked me to do something for her, it was a big job and I was glad to try to take it on. Within just a few hours I started having awful thoughts about her - feelings of dislike - just awful, awful feelings. Then I got the thoughts and feelings that I couldn't do what she wanted me to do - and just feelings of fear. As these thoughts and feelings continued I started to have heavy self-loathing toward myself for thinking these things about this person. Then, the thought entered my mind, "MY GUIDE HAS LEFT ME", because my thoughts were so awful!!!!" Tears filled my eyes and I felt TOTALLY ALONE, because I KNEW He had left me !

I went to the computer to write to Charlene. She wrote back immediately and said I had been attacked and gave me the name of the spirit who was doing it. She said he has a gang that follow him and she knows him very well. She told me those thoughts and feelings were not mine. But even knowing this it took me nearly 3 weeks for those bad feelings to leave me. So during that time, I KNOW my vibration/energy level was low. I hope it's going back up now. This was a recent happening.

I was advised not to use the pendulum at this time and I have no desire to use it now. My husband would have a "hissy-fit" if he thought I was using it - lol !

anna

24-11-2009, 01:06 AM

Just a little update.

This weekend I was able to talk to my husband and my daughter about what happened to me last year. I didn't know it but they both always thought I was under a possession. Thank God! They never thought I was crazy!

So today I got my husband to go back there with me to see the Dr. As we were talking there was an opportunity to tell him my thoughts - about it being a spirit possession.

I told him that I never thought the voice came from me and I still feel that way and that my family always thought it was some kind of possession. I said exactly what I was hoping I could get out of my mouth. He listened kindly and intently. My husband said he looked shocked. I have no idea what he was really thinking; but, he asked what I wanted to do. I said I'd like to come off my medication (which I hadn't taken for a full year) :D. So he told me how to wean myself off it and I said okay !!! (I had decided I better not tell him I hadn't taken it and my husband was so sure he wanted me to, either)

I said that I wanted him to be aware that this can REALLY happen to people.
Really the only think he said was that he didn't know anything about this. And when I asked if anyone else had said this to him, I believe he said no.

I asked my husband if I came across sane and intelligent and of course, he said that I did ;)

I'll see him again in 3 months just to tell him I'm fine. I really feel good that I was able to tell him this :)

faulconandsnowjob

25-11-2009, 07:07 PM

Anna sent me this -

James Bartley - Understanding The Reptilian Mind - pt 1
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

pt 4

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

linda28

25-11-2009, 11:24 PM

anna

26-11-2009, 01:58 AM

Linda: Thanks! One of my prescribed drugs says suicide is one of the side effects.

Faulcon: Thanks for posting those videos in your last post. I've made it to Part 4. Maybe Friday I can finish them.

Everyone have a good Thanksgiving.

faulconandsnowjob

28-11-2009, 06:46 PM

James Bartley
http://www.whale.to/b/bartley.html

... With the recent mass exposure of paedophilia around the world in the high places of religions, governments, courts, etc., and on the video testimony of Arizona Wilder, how can one doubt the reality of reptilian manipulation by hosting or other means to subdue and molest children, women and men? Montauk victims were also controlled by 'dreams' and the whole project was based on electronically controlling the astral field and the orgone energy, based on Wilhelm Reich's research. On the other hand, Alestair Crowley succeeded in this without the means of 'electronics.' The whole scenario of 'hosting' is the basis for what the religions call 'demon possession.' Are demons reptilian or not? ...

faulconandsnowjob

01-12-2009, 04:57 AM

Cannabis Grass Opiates Leading to Schizophrenia Paranoia Psychosis & Demonic Spiritual Possession

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

True Spiritual Demonic Possession & Schizophrenia & Exorcism

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

hermajesty

09-01-2010, 09:30 AM

Coast to Coast AM - Astral Entities part 1/12

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

From the description:

Feb 20 2002
Australian-based mystic and metaphysical researcher, Robert Bruce, has actively explored astral projection, subtle realms, and the human spiritual connection for over 25 years. In this program he shares his personal encounters with negative astral entities, as well as discussing psychic self-defense.

deca

09-01-2010, 10:14 AM

This is something that really can happen. It happened to me last year. I never thought I had a mental condition; I have always believed that a spirit was attacking me. I've never told this to my family and I certainly didn't tell it to the doctors! I did tell it to Charlene, a lady I found on YouTube and she was able to verify this for me. She was also able to give me additional insight into what happened. It really does help when someone believes you.

I recently asked Charlene if she would make a video and read part of my story and put it on her channel, which she did. Since then four others have asked her to do the same thing for them.

I wanted to post the videos here in case others may have something happening in their lives or maybe you know of someone that this may be happening to.

Charlene is working with people now to help rid them of these dark spirits. I've also included a video she made about Jani Schofield, the little girl the doctors have termed as schizophrenic.

THIS IS CHARLENE'S YOUTUBE CHANNEL:
http://www.youtube.com/user/atomarane

THIS IS THE VIDEO OF MY EXPERIENCE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kg0fySVzrk

JACKIE'S TRUE STORY:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H1ppKkFX38

CELESTE'S TRUE STORY:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI9fcnYMa9w

JANELLE'S TRUE STORY:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0dPim2Fv6I

JANI SCHOFIELD - SCHIZOPHRENIC OF SPIRIT POSSESSION
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZnooLRAbuM
[B]

That is exactly what happens during a microwave hearing effect (mind control & electronic harassment)

the bastards threaten you and your family , you end up trying to protect them by doing what they say, but it looks like you are going crazy to the people around you, they worry about your mental health and the next thing you know you are getting carted of to the funny farm.....basicaly same thing happened to me....

Obviously she blamed "spirits" not technology and seaked help ,the attacks died down or stopped , but when she was going to get more involved and go public the attacks started again.....the passively monitor you 24/7 if you start thinking about this and go public the switch on the microwave attack and fuck you up

http://www.fedame.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5276

A MORE COMPLETE AND CORRECTED FOR ENGLISH LANGUAG VERSION OF THE GOAL WE HAVE

The phenomenon of people who report some type of remote attack or manipulation by what they call directed energy or neurological weapons, mind manipulating technology or electronic harassment emerged during the cold war and visibly increased in late 1990’s. But in the year 2000, an unexplainable and dramatic increase in incidence of these complaints occurred.

These reports are coming from every continent all around the globe and the similarities of testimonies and exponential increase point to a GLOBAL problem.

This group of individuals, who report this problem, call themselves “Targeted Individuals” shortened to TI’s, or "mind control victims". There are surprising overlaps in patterns and symptoms between the TI’s and chronic fatigue Fibromyalgia, a U.S. public health mystery of a sudden increase of suicides in middle aged people that started at the beginning of this decade.
Another unexplained global phenomena like the debilitating and bizarre condition first mentioned in medical reports as PGAS, the not yet understood disease named Morgellons that also first became public around the same period which seems to have the very same kind of global increase, and also it was previously dismissed as a delusion because it was not understood until finally in 2008 an investigation was launched because of the growing list of patients worldwide with symptoms and lab results showing it was much more than just a delusion.
The complaints about mind manipulating weapons are in the same way treated as mental illness, and are therefore not monitored officially and remain “invisible” in any kind of statistical results. The sensational symptoms like telepathic experiences and embarrassing sexual electronic sensations, draw the attention away from the much longer list of health problems like autoimmunity disturbances, permanent fatigue, muscle pain that remind of Fibromyalgia, a significant high number of thyroid gland disorders, headaches and neurological symptoms and measurable reactions of post traumatic stress disorder. Hardly any outsider is aware of the simultaneously occurring problems with electronic devices and communication like computers or even car electronics.
The consequences of their ignorance is that observers have no idea of the scale of this and don’t recognize the reports as part of the same issue and keep classifying them as individual cases, imaginations or superstitions, paranoid conspiracy theories or just mental illness.
At the same time already a statistical investigation by any official body would show this problem is much different from just one of coincidental internet delusions.
Reports of TI's mainly include the following 3 things.
A -Most TI's report the physical and mental symptoms they experience from the moment they consciously experience the technology affecting them.
B -Most TI's report interception of mail, interception and alteration of telecommunications, telephone and internet communications and malfunctions of all types of electronic and electrical devices .
C -Most TI's experience organized stalking, which they explain in different ways and that in most cases starts earlier than the typical symptoms and physical sensations referred to as electronic harassment.
These three things (nearly) always go together and the number of new people reporting this had a sudden increase in 2000, continuing to the present. This should at least raise the question of how the complaints cannot be related.
Meanwhile there have been many warnings by scientists in the fields of the emerging technologies like artificial intelligence and nanotechnology, about the possible dangers related to these technologies and mentioned by many as one of future risk and even possible human extinction scenarios.
Predictions of emerging technological super intelligence or self organizing nanotechnology mention the fact that it would not be necessarily bound to any physical body or would not even be recognized as such because of our limited human nature in comparison with it and not necessarily have goals consistent with the benefit of humanity.
A huge part of military research into these technologies as advanced technological weapons has been done secretly by several superpowers as a part of the weapons race and still remains classified.

The past has shown that historically important disruptive changes, referred to as low probability but high impact events are always a totally unexpected surprise to the world and pose severe consequences for humanity.
In foresight, research of these kinds of disruptive events are called Wild Cards, or Black Swan events and emerging technological surprises often are named as a possible cause.
Also the evolution of science has a similar nature of sudden surprising changes and was named by Thomas Kuhn as a “Paradigm Shift”.
Human nature seems to have a natural blindness to gradual changes. The increased knowledge of these mechanisms should prevent ignoring the signs of possible emerging risks (mistakes humanity made previously in history).
The serious threat emerging technologies are posing, the numerous warnings from AI experts on this matter, combined with the striking increase of people asking for recognition because they are targeted with technology interfacing with their mind and body and access to electronic systems of any kind should be a justified reason for an urgent and serious investigation into this internationally.

Many people from all around the world are asking, “Please help us, help us, please give this problem the attention it deserves and investigate this situation in order to provide possible answers to the large scale suffering of many who are suspecting that they are guinea pigs in non-consensual human experimentation and who are feeling like a hostage of the silently emerging information war against humanity.
Not recognized, not helped and dismissed as being mentally ill and put in a position to be subjected to unjustified, unrelenting and inhumane torture.
These groups of brave individuals who have gone public are just the tip of the iceberg and represent a much larger group of people that keep silent in fear of being tortured extensively and marginalized by friends and family and of jeopardizing their livelihood.
Many are waiting for the miracle that someone will appear who can expose the horror and injustices that are occurring globally. That some event will take place to ease their pain and suffering and allow them to return to the normal life that they had prior to becoming TI’s prior to becoming aware of the insanity and evilness that is allowed to destroy and disrupt innocent human being.
Our mission is to strive to terminate this silent epidemic, to generate the requisite attention deserving of the atrocities that are occurring globally infringing on the human rights, the health and the security of all of us.

We are asking the United Nations, the World Health Organization and political leader’s to investigate this problem and reveal the nature of it in a way that does not rely on any assumptions, prejudices, or values of any particular individuals who investigates.

Our Mission:
To achieve this silent epidemic to get the attention it deserves, as global human rights issue, health and security matter. We are asking the United Nations, the World Health Organization and political leader’s to investigate this problem, and capture the nature of it in a way that does not depend on any assumptions, prejudices, or values of the particular individual who studies it.”
Objectivity (science) From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
An objective account is one which could ideally be accepted by any subject. Objectivity should not be mixed up with scientific consensus: Scientist may agree at one point in time but later discover that this consensus represented a subjective point of view.

These complaints are no where monitored officially; remain “invisible” in any kind of statistics. Observers have no idea of the scale of this , don’t recognize the rapports as part of the same issue , and keep ignoring the complaints, as individual cases, imagination, absurd conspiracy theories, superstition, or some or mental illness.
Our goal is that these are complaints would be seriously investigated, and an official organization would monitor the scale and the evolution of the incidence rates, world wide.

The Situation :
In 2000 a sudden rise in incidence occurred in people, who rapport (some kind of) remote "attack" or manipulation. The increasing number of complaints from every continent of the planet keeps growing, and points to a GLOBAL problem. This group is referred to as “targeted individuals”, or "mind control victims", emerged in late 90 ties and overlap surprisingly with similar unexplained experiences as for instance listed by E Showalter that it hardly can be coincidental Still, it goes unnoticed, but becomes clearly visible, after a close serious attentive look at the totality.

Rapports of Ti's mainly include following 3 things.
A -Most ti's rapport physical and mental symptoms they experience from the moment they consciously experience the technology starts to affect them.

B -Most ti's rapport interception of mail, interception and alteration of telecommunications, telephone and internet communications and dysfunctions of all kind of electronic devices and cars electronic to start simultaneously.

C -Most ti's experience "Organized stalking, which they explain in a few possible ways", and that in most cases starts earlier than the typical symptoms and physical sensations named electronic harassment".

Those tree things (nearly) always go together without that the people know each other from all around the world, and the number of new people reporting this started to increase in 2000 exponentially till the present. This should at least raise the question how the complaints can be unrelated.

WE BELIEVE THAT THE COMPLAINTS OF THE TI'S ARE JUST THE TOP OF THE ICE BERG AND PART OF A MUCH LARGER GLOBAL PICTURE,
Mindcontrol Targets a part of collected Testemonies online
The link to our OVER 880 DIRECTED ENERGY WEAPONS, AND STALKING TORTURE AND ABUSE VICTIMS' CASE SUMMARIES
http://www.freedrive.com/folder/177784 OR
http://www.mydrive.ch
username â€“ johnfinch password - TORTURECASES
http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/victm-hm.htm
http://mindcontrolvictim.blogspot.com/
http://soleilmavis.googlepages.com/comments

if you read the testimonies you will see a similar patter/symptoms etc.....

don`t be fooled these are bastards with technology playing sick games on people abusing their belief and ignorance of the technology

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2007/12/the-voice-of-go/
The Voice of God weapon — a device that projects voices into your head to make you think God is speaking to you

Read More http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2007/12/the-voice-of-go/#ixzz0c6oFQIXv

its more than a voice in your head(they can throw these voices...makes you think its coming from anywhere inside/outside your body)...they can manipulate your body ...i.e like your head moving experience

They made me believe the devil was after me...got my running hopping about like a loony and the said they were try to trap the devil in side me and if they did i could kill myself and kill the devil at the same time.....play all kinds of psychological mind games with you...i not even religious...

also this can be psychological devastating to the victim , also unimaginably that theirs technology and people willing to do this to a unwitting innocent person ....easier and more prior knowledge to think spirit.alien,other than evil man with technology doing it,also these evil men have a vested interest in making their victim believe its god,alien,spirits doing it ....you can`t sue them or make them accountable

please be careful about reading about "gangstalking" and "prep" activity's and tactics I believe this has more to do with the technology putting you in a hyper vigilant paranoid state than in the physical sense ....this can fuck you up as you read other TI`s claims then you will spot this were you were oblivious about it.....

a lot of this is to camouflage their activity's ....they try it on with spirts,ghost ect....if you don`t buy that then they try to make you belief your niegbours ,local people are doing it....

deca

09-01-2010, 01:21 PM

Paranoid Schizophrenia - Microwave hearing
Paranoid Schizophrenia - Microwave hearing - YouTube

deca

09-01-2010, 01:23 PM

good cop /bad cop
good spirit /bad spirit
good alien /bad alien

gee don`t them friendly "spirts" turn up just in time after the baddies have worked you over .....to give you helpful advice ......:rolleyes:

these voices come from the same source.....use voice changers/Morphers and muiti voices

doctor_john

10-01-2010, 01:56 AM

when I got into Crystals I got attacked in my sleep with astral beings at that point I never though to think of it as technological I was thinking it was something to do what the Crystals it'self was attracting towards me.

something indeed had been watching me what I was doing I was having these strange dreams being paralized seeing monsterous creatures on my bed within the dream, even hearing the crinkling of the anti static sheilding bag as it was walking across my bed even feeling it's pressure, then all of a sudden it faced me checking my breathing then walked away back off.

doctor_john

10-01-2010, 02:02 AM

was being attacked every night by this freaky old man pigmy freak it was flying over my navel grabbing onto my leg paralizing, I was waking up in a sweat with fear, but then one night I had my brass gremlin "gizmo" in the bed with me, I feel asleep as usual and the freaky head saw it said "eeeeeeewww it gold!!!!!! then flew away" it never came back, but then it did and saw the gremlin again in terror "it's Gold!!!!!!"

hermajesty

10-01-2010, 02:05 AM

I think one should be careful to not attribute all spiritual encounters with technology. Yes, I'm sure such an encounter can be faked w/ technology (holographic projections or whatnot), but there are beings that live in other dimensions.

If you are being attacked, I would recommend asking for help from God, your spirit guides, & your higher self.

deca

10-01-2010, 02:34 AM

people are having real experiences induced by real technology.....

the sciences is pointing to man made technology

if you want to belief astral beings , aliens, spirits....go on......

do you not think the government/military would off researched this all ready??

once you see through mambo jumbo pseudo sciences , you come to a conclusion the reason they are not bothered is because they are the ones doing it....and have a vested interest in having their victims/everyone else belief its not man made.....

hermajesty

10-01-2010, 06:53 AM

people are having real experiences induced by real technology.....

the sciences is pointing to man made technology

if you want to belief [sic] astral beings , aliens, spirits....go on......

What you are posting is not only incorrect, it is dangerous. The dark entities want people to think they don't exist. That way, people won't know what they're dealing with. If people believe all spiritual encounters are b/c of technology, then they will not ask for help from higher-dimensional beings who can actually help them. I've had enough experience w/ higher dimensional beings to know (not "believe") that they exist.

deca

11-01-2010, 12:59 AM

What you are posting is not only incorrect, it is dangerous. The dark entities want people to think they don't exist. That way, people won't know what they're dealing with. If people believe all spiritual encounters are b/c of technology, then they will not ask for help from higher-dimensional beings who can actually help them. I've had enough experience w/ higher dimensional beings to know (not "believe") that they exist.

they just change the voice and hit you more weak complex EMF then you get images and video projected straight to head......they tried that bollocks.... Illuminati , then aliens above them shite....they can fuck off....same people with advance technology 10-20 years ahead whats in civvy street.

I not putting people off having genuine spiritual experiences .....but when you start hearing a voice talk back that's not you or any of your internal voices and hitting you with beliefs and information that you don`t believe or agree with than you got think .Then they use psychological mind control techniques on you..... that's not spirits of ET or even god .....

doctor_john

11-01-2010, 01:11 AM

I could readliy believe whatever was messing with me was a blast of ELF during of sleep to produce the dreamscape reality of which I could physically could move around in, only by convincing myself that it was only happening in a dream not in my future because my mind couldn't instruct my body to move if it was a future event I was witnessing.

deca

11-01-2010, 01:11 AM

If you have any kind of experience with shall we say external "entity" or "entity's" I would differently make sure you are not being mind controlled and brainwashed .....does`nt really matter who/want they are ok

http://www.factnet.org/coercivemindcontrol.html

Coercive Mind Control Tactics

Terminology note: Today Mind control or brainwashing in academia is commonly referred to as coercive persuasion, coercive psychological systems or coercive influence. The short description below comes from Dr. Margaret Singer professor emeritus at the University of California at Berkeley the acknowledged leading authority in the world on mind control and cults.

How Do They Work?

The tactics used to create undue psychological and social influence, often by means involving anxiety and stress, fall into seven main categories.

TACTIC 1

Increase suggestibility and "soften up" the individual through specific hypnotic or other suggestibility-increasing techniques such as:Extended audio, visual, verbal, or tactile fixation drills, Excessive exact repetition of routine activities, Sleep restriction and/or Nutritional restriction.
TACTIC 2

Establish control over the person's social environment, time and sources of social support by a system of often-excessive rewards and punishments. Social isolation is promoted. Contact with family and friends is abridged, as is contact with persons who do not share group-approved attitudes. Economic and other dependence on the group is fostered.
TACTIC 3

Prohibit disconfirming information and non supporting opinions in group communication. Rules exist about permissible topics to discuss with outsiders. Communication is highly controlled. An "in-group" language is usually constructed.
TACTIC 4

Make the person re-evaluate the most central aspects of his or her experience of self and prior conduct in negative ways. Efforts are designed to destabilize and undermine the subject's basic consciousness, reality awareness, world view, emotional control and defense mechanisms. The subject is guided to reinterpret his or her life's history and adopt a new version of causality.
TACTIC 5

Create a sense of powerlessness by subjecting the person to intense and frequent actions and situations which undermine the person's confidence in himself and his judgment.
TACTIC 6

Create strong aversive emotional arousals in the subject by use of nonphysical punishments such as intense humiliation, loss of privilege, social isolation, social status changes, intense guilt, anxiety, manipulation and other techniques.
TACTIC 7

Intimidate the person with the force of group-sanctioned secular psychological threats. For example, it may be suggested or implied that failure to adopt the approved attitude, belief or consequent behavior will lead to severe punishment or dire consequences such as physical or mental illness, the reappearance of a prior physical illness, drug dependence, economic collapse, social failure, divorce, disintegration, failure to find a mate, etc.

http://www.factnet.org/rancho1.htm

Robert Jay Lifton's Eight Point Model of Thought Reform

1. ENVIRONMENT CONTROL. Limitation of many/all forms of communication with those outside the group. Books, magazines, letters and visits with friends and family are taboo. "Come out and be separate!"

2. MYSTICAL MANIPULATION. The potential convert to the group becomes convinced of the higher purpose and special calling of the
group through a profound encounter / experience, for example, through an alleged miracle or prophetic word of those in the group.

3. DEMAND FOR PURITY. An explicit goal of the group is to bring about some kind of change, whether it be on a global, social, or
personal level. "Perfection is possible if one stays with the group and is committed."

4. CULT OF CONFESSION. The unhealthy practice of self disclosure to members in the group. Often in the context of a public gathering in the group, admitting past sins and imperfections, even doubts about the group and critical thoughts about the integrity of the leaders.

5. SACRED SCIENCE. The group's perspective is absolutely true and completely adequate to explain EVERYTHING. The doctrine is not subject to amendments or question. ABSOLUTE conformity to the doctrine is required.

6. LOADED LANGUAGE. A new vocabulary emerges within the context of the group. Group members "think" within the very abstract
and narrow parameters of the group's doctrine. The terminology sufficiently stops members from thinking critically by reinforcing a "black and white" mentality. Loaded terms and clichés prejudice thinking.

7. DOCTRINE OVER PERSON. Pre-group experience and group experience are narrowly and decisively interpreted through the absolute doctrine, even when experience contradicts the doctrine.

8. DISPENSING OF EXISTENCE. Salvation is possible only in the group. Those who leave the group are doomed.

I would also be careful that if you are having an unexplained experience that others , even on forums don`t use it as an opportunity to use it as MYSTICAL MANIPULATION and gets yo to buy into there "belief" or "cult" ....sad thing people who do this might not realize that they are....probably think they are help you.

i would be careful that some might use this site for cultism behavior , get a few disciples to push there agenda and propaganda ( because they believe it) control/make others conform.

then after a while make out the site should be banned....any one that post info on here that's not with in the given norm told its was an internet delusion via reading this site

they are clever c"nts.....use then blame ...

hermajesty

11-01-2010, 02:15 AM

No one is suggesting that technology isn't being used to trick people into thinking they're having spiritual experiences. That does not mean that all spiritual experiences are fake, though.

deca

11-01-2010, 02:33 AM

look i am fucked off with this one or the other kind off crap

people have had spiritual experiences well before there was technology ok

induced by all types of methods ....

i am not saying all "spiritual experiences " are fake.....but ones were theirs is voice using mind control techniques on you ...then you have to be cautions especially when there admit technology to do this also when it starts to threaten family members unless you do this etc.....

very worried if you are not a religious spiritual person in the first place and don`t practice any method or fallow anything !!!!!! and have one of these experiences or repeated one

especially if you believe you are being attack/manipulated by it

also if its using humiliating ,degrading language and the trying to convince them into suicide ....you lot can fucked saying its "spiritual experiences"

telling victims to ask for "god" to help.....what if it is technology voice of god they flip a switch(change voice settings) and say do what i say and I save you kind of thing!!!!!

this is basic compared to a microwave hearing effect with bio feed back (mind reading ) plus
but shows how you can target someone with a sound , or reflex it off an object
Hypersonic sound (future weapons) - YouTube

deca

11-01-2010, 03:26 AM

Interview by San Francisco Reporter Myrna Lim with Access SF TV with Christine Harris, survivor of electronic harassment, organized stalking, directed energy weapons, psychotronics, and interview with
Dr. John Hall, and new release of his book A New Breed: Satellite Terrorism In America

Christine Harris Accesssf.org TV Myrna Lim Pt1 - YouTube

Christine Harris on Access SF TV Myrna Lim Pt2 - YouTube

Christine Harris on Access SF TV Myrna Lim Pt3 - YouTube

deca

11-01-2010, 03:38 AM

ps I have only come across this video and web site today, so i not had time to check it out yet...also i not sure i agree with this video 100% ether ...but the ELF mind control sounds right thou

talk about electronic harrassment and ELF God
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

http://www.tearingdownstrongholds.com/elf-god.htm
The ELF God
By Sherry Shriner

For the second time in the last few years, women have been manipulated into killing their children at the direction and leading of "God's" voice. Most of us would think they are delusional or pschizophrenic, or just plain lying. But are they?

I'm beyond thinking crazy things just happen anymore. I left that world or way of thinking a long time ago. Because crazy things just have a way of getting too much help to make them happen. Was Columbine just a bunch of radical kids on revenge or were they, as the mounting evidence suggests mind controlled and triggered to do exactly what they did? If you want to know if something is legit or crazy, you have to look at the circumstances surrounding it. Shortly after Columbine, gun legislation that was stalled had been suddenly passed. Bang! Gun Control Agenda. The real reason for Columbine.

The sniper in DC which was without a doubt another mind controlled pawn triggered to take the fall, and for what reason? To instill fear and justification to the public for the Homeland Gestapo Agency and the more stealing and confiscation of our rights and liberties. If they're going to declare a war on domestic terrorism and spend billions creating Nazi agencies, they have to make it look needed and terrorism real, and they managed to get rid of an FBI agent who was probably threatening to talk out of those that were 'randomly' killed. John Salvo's defense simply should have been "the government made me do it" and perhaps all their tactics would have been exposed.

There's a very dangerous element being played out on the unsuspecting people of America today. This being hidden amongst the black programs buried within our intelligence community, security agencies, and the military.

ELF and Mind Control is without a doubt, the most dangerous and deadly weapon of warfare affecting people across America today.

ELF is a high tech weapon abbreviated for Extreme Low Frequency signals which mimic natural brain waves. It is not only used to brainwash and control people, it's used to physically attack them as well.

Look at some of the patents filed:

U.S. Patent 5,159,703 – SILENT SUBLIMINAL PRESENTATION SYSTEM.
U.S. Patent 5,507,291 – METHOD AND AN ASSOCIATED APPARATUS FOR REMOTELY DETERMINING INFORMATION AS TO A PERSON'S EMOTIONAL STATE.
U.S. Patent US5629678: IMPLANTABLE TRANSECEIVER – Apparatus for Tracking and Recovering Humans.
U.S. Patent 6,014,080 – BODY WORN ACTIVE AND PASSIVE TRACKING DEVICE.
U.S. Patent 5,868,100 – FENCELESS ANIMAL CONTROL SYSTEM USING GPS (Global Positioning Satellite) LOCATION INFORMATION.

Implants and mind control technology are not simply the creation of paranoid conspiracy theorists, nor are they the stuff of science fiction based on imagination. In fact what is science fiction? It's the future foretold. Is there anything really fiction about most of the fiction we're seeing today? Truth is often masked under the term fiction so that you won't think it's real when often it indeed is.

Implants and mind control technology are real: an established, certifiable fact that the media won't tell you about. The technology exists, the hardware is in place, the patents are on record and the agencies to run and control it are in and have been in place. For more information on electronic warfare and mind control visit http://www.tearingdownstrongholds.com/electronic_mind_control.htm.

Often those who have been implanted with chips or under RMN (remote neural monitoring) attack suffer from symptoms such as depression, befuddled thinking, loss of memory, stress, not being able to cope, manic behaviour, schizophrenia, nervous breakdowns, physical collapse, brain and nervous system damage, heart attacks, cancer, dizziness, chest pains, dehydration, headaches, and migraines. Most attacks occur either when you're sitting in front of the computer or when you're in bed. And this doesn't preclude the daily bombardment you're getting from the Gwen and ELF control towers that condition our subconscious minds daily with subliminal messaging.

There's even more to this hideous agenda for the NWO and population control and harassment but it should be noted that this ELF technology falls into two distinct categories; the first type requires some sort of implant technology to be effective, so implantable chips were discovered and now some 50 years later we're just hearing about it like it's something 'new.' In contrast the second type of technology, Remote Neural Monitoring doesn't require any kind of chip implanting because it can act directly on a targeted individual or group. If they can target a license plate in your driveway, don't you think they can zero in on you anytime they want to as well?

Most of us have been implanted from the time we've been born. Vaccinations, flu shots, tetanus shots, virtually through any type of medical or dental work performed on us. Our medical community suppliers have inundated our hospitals with products that are loaded with chips. When it comes down to it, the AMA oversees everything and everything and every one is under their control along with the FDA, that means the government is controlling everything through ancillaries and agencies. And what program are they running? The Beast Agenda. They're preparing the world for the arrival of the Antichrist. To do so, they have to be able to control. And they do that in various ways.

Chip implantations, voluntary or involuntary are the foundation of the GPS network. They're not telling you they're putting chips in you they just do it without your knowledge. They can track you, they can have access to you, and as many people are finding out, they can specifically target you for harassment. Most just don't realize they've been unknowingly implanted with chip(s). Run a frequency meter reader over you and you can find where they are. And the good news is they can be disabled http://www.tearingdownstrongholds.com/detect-chips.htm.

But what happens when you're unfamiliar with any of this technology that's out now and what it can do to you? You become a victim of it. ELF technology operates at the brain wave level. That means they can implant thoughts into your head, and even speak to you, and you think it's your own self thinking these things. They can even use it to play God and quote Scripture at you until you're convinced it's God. I know many believers in God right now who would rebuttal this and say "they could never fool me." Well, yes, they are, and they have been deceiving many in the churches today. How many false visions and prophecies have already been spoken in the real God's name that were given to them by the ELF's little small voice God? I've read many, very very many.

When people don't learn to distinguish how to hear God's voice, the one the military has created will fool you every time. The big difference is the real Most High God speaks to your heart and not your head. So if something or someone is talking to your head, it's not the Most High God no matter how much Scripture is being quoted or how religious it seems at the time, or how small the voice is. The Real God does NOT speak to your head.

Wake up America! Everything about the New World Order is trying to manipulate, control and destroy you!

If you're not committed to the Most High God and have learned how He speaks to us by now http://www.sherryshriner.com/kingdom-of-God.htm then you're going to be a victim of the ELF God and military technology. And you're going to be a victim of mind control technology, harassment and targetting if you don't learn what they're about. We don't live in Kansas anymore, these are the last days and the BEAST agenda is alive and operating

http://www.tearingdownstrongholds.com/electronic_mind_control.htm
Electronic Mind Control
Rixon Stewart

"The more we do to you, the less you seem to believe we are doing it."
Joseph Mengele, camp doctor at Auschewitz, notorious for his
experiments on inmates.

"In 1961 Alan H Frey provided evidence that the perception of sound
can be induced in normal and deaf humans by irradiation of the head
with low power density, pulse modulated UHF . . . The ability to
modify behaviour with auditory-cortex stimuli . . .brain rhythm
modification and many other biological applications of microwaves has
been repeatedly shown since the 1950's." From declassified records on
Project Pandora released on 19 Dec 1994:

It's the stuff of dreams. The sort of fantasy entertained by the
likes of Hitler, Stalin and Chairman Mao. Not just control but
complete control over every aspect of life and not by laws or
external restrictions either, but control imposed from within:
control over the very thoughts and feelings of a subject people.

deca

11-01-2010, 04:07 AM

This video is actually two 13-second segments from a 3-minute video spliced together to make a shorter video. The short story is, I am being tortured (actually, slowly murdered) with directed-energy weapons by corrupt people within the U.S. government. The actual directed-energy pulses were relatively "light", comparatively speaking. See the video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_g9Kg... for an example of pulses that are a bit stronger. Please refer to my website for relevant research and documentation:

Attacked by Directed Energy Weapons (DEW) While Trying to Nap - YouTube

Attacked by Directed-Energy Weapons (DEW) - YouTube

Electronic Harassment by Directed Energy Weapons - YouTube

anna

12-01-2010, 08:44 PM

DECA, you've posted some really interesting information and yes, we do need to be aware that the government can produce these types of episodes. I plan on watching more of those videos you put here. But I have no doubt that mine was a true spirit possession - no doubt at all. And the others whose stories are at the beginning of this thread know, without any doubt, that theirs was true spirit attack.

I think it's wise for all of us to know that both of these things are possible, whether by spirit or by the military. Spirits who attack people are the same type of spirit that could also incarnate into a new physical lifetime or who have probably had physical lifetimes at some point in it's existence. . . after all, our true nature is spirit, but we come into physical bodies to experience and hopefully to evolve for the better.

It is really mind blowing just what the MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX is capable of doing.

And, it is just as mind blowing just what SPIRITUAL ENTITIES are capable of doing to us.

deca

13-01-2010, 01:03 AM

mind blowing is the right word for it.

your story reflected a lot how I was first attacked ....similar psychology that's all...I have only watched the first video

All i can say it does not matter what you belief your entity/s is but please be aware of mind control techniques so you do get coerced into doing things against your better will and judgment and later regret ...this is not easy as they will use your better nature and personality against you, i.e start threatening others you care about is something I have suffered and had them hurt them I believe and they have i believe tried the same on you.

http://www.factnet.org/rancho1.htm

the important thing Is keeping your life together, being informed, and learning to deal/overcome it ......keep yourself as positive as possible
this might in the long run might not be a bad thing.

here`s some of the best videos on mind control & electronic harassment
but remember technology is a double edge sword....

http://www.youtube.com/user/marsboy683

deca

13-01-2010, 04:21 AM

Dr persingers work

God helmet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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The term God Helmet refers to a experimental apparatus in neurotheology. The apparatus, placed on the head of an experimental subject, stimulates the brain with fluctuating magnetic fields. Some subjects reported experiences using the same words used to describe spiritual experiences.[1] The leading researcher in this area is Michael Persinger. Persinger uses a modified snowmobile helmet (the "Koren Helmet") that contains solenoids placed over the temporal lobes, or a device nicknamed the Octopus that uses solenoids, both of which output "weak but complex" magnetic fields. The Octopus uses solenoids around the whole brain, in a circle just above subject's ears, eyes and the bony ridge at the back of the skull, a region that includes the temporal lobes. Persinger reports that at least 80 percent of his participants (working with the Koren Helmet) experience a presence beside them in the room, which ranges from a simple 'sensed presence' to God. About one percent experienced God, while many more had less evocative, but still significant experiences of 'another being'.

The apparatus uses magnetic fields, and not EMF emissions, as is sometimes thought. Much of the controversy surrounding the 'God Helmet' is due to this misunderstanding. The distinction is important because alterations in consciousness have been noted during changes in the Earth's magnetic field (the earth is not a source of EMF emissions, but is a source of magnetic fields), an effect that the 'God Helmet' experiments have helped to corroborate.

Further confusion has appeared from the misperception that Persinger's apparatus is an example of TMS(transcranial magnetic stimulation), a clinical technique that employs magnetic fields much stronger then the Koren Helmet, and that uses pulsed 'trained' magnetic fields, instead of the 'complex magnetic fields' used in Persinger's research.

There is controversy as to the source of the effects Persinger measured. In December 2004 Nature reported that a group of Swedish researchers, attempting to replicate the experiment under double-blind conditions, were not able to verify the effect.[2] Susan Blackmore, experimental psychologist and experienced researcher of 'paranormal' experiences, was reluctant to give up on the theory just yet. She said "When I went to Persinger's lab and underwent his procedures I had the most extraordinary experiences I've ever had… I'll be surprised if it turns out to be a placebo effect."[cite this quote] Persinger, however, takes issue with the Swedish attempts to replicate his work. "They didn't replicate it, not even close," he says.[cite this quote] He argues that the Swedish group did not expose the subjects to magnetic fields for long enough to produce an effect. He also stresses that many of his studies were indeed double blinded.[citation needed]

Although the equipment and instructions were supplied by Persinger to the Swedish team, later changes in the software, made necessary by faster computers, which the Swedish team didn't have, may have confounded the Swedes' results. Both Persinger and the Swedish team have published polemical commentaries.

A report of an experiment on Richard Dawkins in 2003 said:

The experiment is based on the recent finding that some patients with temporal lobe epilepsy, a neurological disorder caused by chaotic electrical discharges in the temporal lobes of the brain, seem to experience devout hallucinations that bear a striking resemblance to the mystical experiences of holy figures such as St Paul and Moses. Such associations have been noted by researchers for over a century, including Dr. Wilder Penfield's work, published in the 1950s.[3]

Dawkins was reported not to have experienced a religious feeling. The report said:

Dr Persinger explained his lack of effects. Before donning the helmet, Prof Dawkins had scored low on a psychological scale measuring temporal lobe sensitivity.[3]

There are others involved in the same lines of research seen in Dr. Persinger's work. Research by Mario Beauregard at University of Montreal has shown religious and spiritual experiences to include several brain regions, including the neurological regions Persinger studies.[4] However, Dr. Beauregard's work, unlike that of Dr. Persinger, does not include inducing religious experiences, and is confined to neural imaging Carmelite nuns while in prayer. The correlation drawn between temporal lobe epilepsy and religious experience, as discussed by Persinger, has been questioned. The auditory and visual hallucinations as well as emotional states experienced by Temporal Lobe epilepsy (TLE) patients during the seizure state typically induce sensations of malcontent, rather than ecstatic or pleasant sensations that are integral to spiritual experience, as noted by neurologist John R Hughes. However, even though only a small percent of TLE seizures include religious experiences, the study of these individuals nevertheless provides important evidence concerning the neural basis for religious and mystic experiences.[

don``t be fooled because Dr persinger use an helmet that's so he can easily do it in a lab......he use "weak but complex" magnetic fields. These can happen natural or form complex interaction form electrical devices .....
i also believe that they can target people with "weak but complex" magnetic fields.....microwaves are part of the Em spectrum and have a magnetic field [so pulsing them will cause burst of magnetic fields - i belief not got the science to back this up yet ]

microwave is and electromagnetic wave

http://www.astronomynotes.com/light/emanim.gif

hope you can see how they could fire microwaves at a target generate weak but complex" magnetic fields and cause Dr persingers experiences ....sense of presences, mystical,alien abduction etc,mystical,spiritual ....

also they could also use a microwave hearing effect (voice of "god") on you after wards and manipulate you.

hermajesty

14-01-2010, 01:01 AM

I have had several interactions w/ a spirit cat - the last of which was last night. I can sense the cat's presence & even feel its weight. The cat is completely non-threatening. I seriously doubt that some govt entity is faking a cat curling up on my bed or walking on my legs to *not* freak me out :p

deca

14-01-2010, 01:06 AM

I had the fake "white" cat and a snake....they were so real , i could not tell if i was awake or sleeping...and yes i felt there weight and felt there presences....but I just don`t talk about these experiences....because i rather expose the direct to brain broadcast technology not what they broadcast

I knew were fake because i chat to them via synthetic telepathy link ....they burst out laughing after the snake one...because i blow at it as it was sticking its tongue in my face...after it had creep up the length of my bodied...i was actually paralyzed with fear because i could not tell if it was a real one or not or if i was awake or asleep i blow at it it vanished and they laughed via microwave hearing effect...think i woke a in a sweat and admitted they had me....
i am using(they are) the synthetic telepathy now as i type...i can all day long ...nothing what I do its all at there end....

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jammasterj13

24-02-2010, 01:05 PM

This is a very interesting thread.

And the threat of spirit attack/spirit possesion is very real.

I remember when I first started meditating seriously and continue to do so.
A Buddhist monk at the Buddhist Meditation Centre taught me and I would always go to him when I had questions.

A month into the meditation, I kept getting horrible visions of awful looking beings with sharp teeth and they would change from looking normal into something demonic. The normal looking vision would always be seductive and then when I got drawn in they would change into something truly not right.

I posed this question to the monk as to why I was having these visions, and he basically said the beings are drawn to you because you are emanating more light, they are attracted not to you but to the things they were once were, like moths to a flame. They had plenty of chances to repent and ask for forgiveness, but each time they didn't repent they found themselves further and further away from the light until they were so far away there wasn't a rope long enough to drag them out of the abyss. Those dark spirits did it to themselves.

These visions went away as I stopped paying attention/givng energy to them.
But they do come back and they keep trying and trying. I've had dark figures stood next to me when in deep meditation, and you can literally feel the evil pouring off them, but when I open my eyes they disappear. I can see them in my minds eye and they put a lot of effort into looking and sounding intimidating.

I don't go to the centre anymore and the monk has gone back to his monastery up in Scotland. But the last msg he gave me in our last conversation was that, 'The spiritual path you and many are undertaking will cause you/them a lot of pain and suffering and the Source will test you and test you but in the end it will all be worth it'.

The story of the Buddha and Mara I always keep in mind and from that story I have drawn a lot of internal strength.

I really do sympathise with the folks who have gone through the suffering they have had and I wish them all the best. These things happen a lot and in some fucked up way I think the head shrinkers know the truth about spirit possession and get there sadistic kicks by prescribing mind poisons thus hastening an individuals demise.

But there is always help from the light, be it an angel, a guide or even the Source itself.

May the Source of all things bless you all with much happiness and peace.:)

tazika

28-02-2010, 07:41 AM

Wow, tazika, that is some fight you have been up against, and yes I am sure we are all interested in this.

What sort of conversations did your son have withthe sn.?

Do you think it was the crap food that made contact for the sn. stronger with your son?

Please tell us more, and thank you for sharing.

Sorry for not coming here so long.

My son was amazed when he saw the realistic toy of a snake for the first time. He was just learning to walk, knowing few words. He saw a green gummi snake on a market, he said: "Mama", and we said: "Snake". "Mama Zmija" (mama snake). We bought a toy and he was taking her everywhere we went, he still has her. Whenever he sees the snake, he runs after her trying to catch her, he has apsolutely ne fear although we keep telling him that lot of them are poisonus.
When he learned some words, and as he was growing up, he was telling me that snakes are coming to him when he's alone in a room. The most importaint is Father Snake. Boy was telling about this things only to me, as I am the only believer in the family, others are atheists (we are in ex-Yugoslavia). As he went to kindergarten at age 4, and only me and few people took care of him, I just know that all that facts he could hear from nobody but from that snake visitor.
I never saw or heard his snakes, only what he told me. In my house or from me he never heard those things, nor from croatian TV programmes.
He told me that (his) Father Snake lived before God created first humans. That he has all the knowledge and he will teach the boy everything. F.Snake can change shapes: he has to became smaller to come in the room, when someone comes in the room FS hides himself in a toy.
Once my son was SO happy, he told me that FS showed him his real shape: he is a dragon. Very very old worn-out dragon. And that shape of a dragon is not his last shape, once he will show his REAL shape to the boy, but later, when he grows up and learnes more.
As the vocabulary of my son was getting bigger, I've eard everyday's proofs that this is not an "imaginary friend" but the real beeing. For example, on a TV was documentary about dynasores, and it was said that dynasors and humans never lived at the same time on Earth. Boy said so sure: "oh yes they did, FS told me they did." Two years later in all newspapers was that article about dynasore and human footsteps found together, made in the same time.
I wrote before that I saw him in a yoga position (we don't practice yoga) making "Cobra breathing" that FS learned him, and on internet I've found it's for opening some "third eye for communication with snake beeings".

Boy called his father "my earthly father" and FS his real father. I remember how my husband used to laugh: he punishes the son, and boy - age 3, 4 - shouts in the air: "Snake! Snake! Come and punish my dad!" ...but somehow, since that time, all his jobs are going downhill, a lot of financial losses, his health is bad... what all of course could be from earthly causes.

Oh I'm so sorry I was not writing that down... boy told me facts from the Bible, Old Testimonium, but from the view of the snake. I told you before that we couldn't baptize the boy for 4 years, allways something would come in the way. When finally we did (lying that we are going to the town, on the road that passes by the church, if we wouldn't say so again the car would not go or some accident would happen) my son was angry on us for months. He turned away from his loved godmother, if she tried to touch him he would jump away as the electricity would hit him. He woke up few times in the middle of the night, and he was shouting in anger, some un-childish anger, strange manner: "I should not allow for that one (priest) to baptize me, I should forbid them to take me to that man to baptize me. I want my name to be wiped off from that book in the heaven" and such stuff, then after 10-20 min. he would fall back to sleep, all in a cold sweat.
Then, after 4 or 6 months, he started to calm down. When I asked him in private if FS is coming to him, he said no, but he got the massages that FS will come to him later, when he grows up. Once he told me so happily that he heard FS flying around the house in the night, he heard him breathing, but FS couldn't come in.
Later he told me that FS, for unknown reason, can not make himself small enough to come in a child's room, but that was maybe his reasoning.

I wrote before that my cousin, whom I meet once in a few years, gave me a massage from some old snakes in the sky, that they take care about my boy.
Thing about the food - that I gave up from the very healthy food for some shorter period of time - was only THE PROOF that they really are watching us! How could my cousin, who never was in my house, know how feed my child last month?! Snakes only asked him to give me the massage to feed my boy properly and to forbid him junk food. As they "take care of him"????
Listen everybody: of course I am a curious person, human beeings are curious, especially for the things that we can't see as are for example some massages from unearthly beeings. BUT I AM NOT INTERRESTED FOR ANY SINGLE THING from the beeings who can not come after a baptization in the name of Isus Krist!!! I don't want anything from them, I forbid them to come in my house, to my son and to all my family in the name of Isus Krist!!! Amen!

So this all was of course very interresting, but as I said - I don't want anything from them.
I don't think my boy was posessed from them. Father Snake was coming TO him, but not IN him. He was teaching the boy, but not making him to do something. I never saw evil or foreign eyes in my son. They only made boy love them, believe them, want to belong to them.
Now he turned 7 and he doesn't speak about them. He only has all the books about snakes, he goest to the ZOO to watch snakes, he runs after snakes in nature... he has great interrest in snakes although he knows they are only animals. He paints demons, devils, blood. They were making the picture of the Easter Bunny in pre-school, and he painted the coffin and blood drips from the coffin: Easter Bunny is that coffin, and vampire is coming to drink his blood, ha ha ha! I ask him if he's scared or why he makes only that pictures, he says it's his waya of making fun.
We'll see.
Meanwhile I am watching with all eyes wide open, fisical, psyhical and spiritual!

deca

05-03-2010, 06:00 PM

http://www.raven1.net/synthtel.htm

Dr Michael Persinger is a Professor of Psychology and Neuroscience at Laurentian University, Ontario, Canada. His work and findings indicate that strong electromagnetic fields can and will affect a person's brain.

"Temporal lobe stimulation can evoke the feeling of a presence, disorientation, and perceptual irregularities. It can activate images stored in the subject's memory, including nightmares and monsters that are normally suppressed."

http://www.ilovehorror.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/friday-the-13th-part-3-14181.jpg
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51MuKZNEKgL._SL500_AA280_.jpg
see I am not scared of ghost etc... but screwed up psychotic maniacs is another mater...
I used to sleep in the spare room when my marriage broke up we had a bunk-bed in their the one ware you don`t get a bottom bunk but room for a desk ect....we had our pc in their.....many time they would put me in a spooked alter state (on par with the feeling you get from watching a scary movie at night by yourself...you hear every pin drop ,creak ...check under bed cupboard kind of thing )
well they can also trigger complex hallucinations , I hear the scary dude walk up the stairs even here his breath , I would also feel his presence , once I even felt his presences under my bed,it was the awful feeling I was frozen I could not tell if he was under my bed for real or not as trembled with fear and ponder the risk of actually looking under the bed i felt him plunge his knife through from under the bed and blood flow over me.......
But again I just laughed ...and thought you bastards really had me there , I look at this as entertainment now I just amazed how realistic it is and how the sensation are just out of this world.
I also get feelings of people grabbing me from behind and cutting my throat etc....(normal when I were my headphones or sat at my pc) one of the reason that i bought my bone conduction ones...could not ware normal ones more than a few minutes with the intense spooky sensations (even when i new they were induced I still could not relax and had to take them off to hear if there was really somebody in my house)
I think i said this before this tech can turn your home into something out off the evil dead

Saying that I have to double check my doors and windows at night...if I doubt or not sure I have looked them then they play on that doubt & fear and exploit it to the max....its just easier to get out of bed and check them....then theirs not doubt to exploit...

they do the same if I am in hurry to go to work and made something to eat.....if i have not double check I have turned off my cooker they will play on it all through my sift etc...
Think I should call this post bed hell :rolleyes:

anna

06-03-2010, 11:12 PM

This is a very interesting thread.

And the threat of spirit attack/spirit possesion is very real.

JAMMASTERJ13 's FULL COMMENT IS ABOVE

Thank you so much for your comments above.
Many blessings to you !

the perfect one

18-03-2010, 09:19 PM

I absolutely agree w/ this. I don't think it's possible for a person to have a "split mind," ie multiple focal points, in this reality/dimension. I think what is going on w/ creating alters, in for ex MKULTRA, is actually demon possession. There is even an element of satanic ritualism in these barbaric procedures, according to Svali, Arizona Wilder, Leo Zagami, etc. Sirhan Sirhan, a likely delta-programmed mk assassin-victim, claimed he didn't remember anything about the shooting of Robert Kennedy. Maybe he was literally not present, ie that something else took over his body.

This interests me , If I understand you correctly they can induce a demonic personality through this mind control.
Is that actual demons or is it induced mental behavior due to mind control?
I am stuck in the middle of this ,as it seems hard to grasps that they can actually turn someone into a demon like that.
Thanks:)