Khazarian jewish theory : A JESUIT HOAX

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Dear xxx,

Here is Ernest Renan, a Roman Catholic Frenchman trained by priests and the sinner who sought to have France forget about St. Bartholomew's Massacre in 1572 and the Revocation of the Edict of Nantes in 1685---both brought about by the Jesuits killing out the French Protestants in France.

This is the Jesuit Temporal Coadjutor who was behind the false Khazarian theory, namely, that the racial Jews of today are nothing more than Gentile Turks who adopted the religion of Judaism and therefore have no right to the land of Israel.

Lord Bless,

Brother Eric

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Renan

Dear xxx,

You will find the name Ernst Renan---the father of the false Khazarian theory---under "Debate" with the subtitle "Alleged Khazar ancestry of Ashkenazim"

Brother Eric

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars



Date and extent of the conversion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars#Date_and_extent_of_the_conversion

The date of the conversion of the Khazars to Judaism, and whether it occurred as one event or as a sequence of events over time, is widely disputed. The issues surrounding this controversy are discussed above.

The number of Khazars who converted to Judaism is also hotly contested, with historical accounts ranging from claims that only the King and his retainers had embraced Judaism, to the claim that the majority of the lay population had converted. D.M. Dunlop was of the opinion that only the upper class converted; this was the majority view until relatively recently. Analysis of recent archaeological grave evidence by such scholars as Kevin A. Brook asserts that the sudden shift in burial customs, with the abandonment of pagan-style burial with grave goods and the adoption of simple shroud burials during the mid-800s suggests a more widespread conversion. A mainstream scholarly consensus does not yet exist regarding the extent of


Alleged Khazar ancestry of Ashkenazim

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars#Alleged_Khazar_ancestry_of_Ashkenazim


The theory that all or most Ashkenazi ("European") Jews might be descended from Khazars (rather than Semitic groups in the Middle East) dates back to the racial studies of late nineteenth century Europe, and was frequently cited to assert that most modern Jews are not descended from Israelites and/or to refute Israeli claims to Palestine. It was first publicly proposed in lecture given by the racial-theorist Ernest Renan on January 27, 1883, titled "Judaism as a Race and as Religion." It was repeated in articles in The Dearborn Independent in 1923 and 1925, and popularized by racial theorist Lothrop Stoddard in a 1926 article in the Forum titled "The Pedigree of Judah", where he argued that Ashkenazi Jews were a mix of people, of which the Khazars were a primary element. Stoddard's views were "based on nineteenth and twentieth-century concepts of race, in which small variations on facial features as well as presumed accompanying character traits were deemed to pass from generation to generation, subject only to the corrupting effects of marriage with members of other groups, the result of which would lower the superior stock without raising the inferior partners." This theory was adopted by British Israelites, who saw it as a means of invalidating the claims of Jews (rather than themselves) to be the true descendants of the ancient Israelites, and was supported by early anti-Zionists.

In 1951 Southern Methodist University professor John O. Beaty published The Iron Curtain over America, a work which claimed that "Khazar Jews" were "responsible for all of America's — and the world's — ills beginning with World War I". The book repeated a number of familiar antisemitic claims, placing responsibility for U.S. involvement in World Wars I and II and the Bolshevik revolution on these Khazars, and insisting that Khazar Jews were attempting to subvert Western Christianity and establish communism throughout the world. The American millionaire J. Russell Maguire gave money towards its promotion, and it was met with enthusiasm by hate groups and the extreme right. By the 1960s the Khazar theory had become a "firm article of faith" amongst Christian Identity groups. In 1971 John Bagot Glubb (Glubb Pasha) also took up this theme, insisting that Palestinians were more closely related to the ancient Judeans than were Jews. According to Benny Morris:

Of course an anti-Zionist (as well as an anti-Semitic) point is being made here: The Palestinians have a greater political right to Palestine than the Jews do, as they, not the modern-day Jews, are the true descendants of the land's Jewish inhabitants/owners.

The theory gained further support when the novelist Arthur Koestler devoted his popular book The Thirteenth Tribe (1976) to the topic. Koestler's historiography has been attacked as highly questionable by many historians; it has also been pointed out that his discussion of theories about Ashkenazi descent is entirely lacking scientific or historiographical support; to the extent that Koestler referred to place-names and documentary evidence his analysis has been described as a mixture of flawed etymologies and misinterpreted primary sources. Commentors have also noted that Koestler mischaracterized the sources he cited, particularly D.M. Dunlop's History of the Jewish Khazars (1954). Dunlop himself stated that the theory that Eastern European Jews were the descendants of the Khazars, "... can be dealt with very shortly, because there is little evidence which bears directly upon it, and it unavoidably retains the character of a mere assumption." One other piece of evidence against the Khazar Theory is the near total lack of Turkic influence on the development of the Yiddish language spoken by Ashknenazic Jews.

Koestler himself was pro-Zionist based on secular considerations, and did not see alleged Khazar ancestry as diminishing the claim of Jews to Israel, which he felt was based on the United Nations mandate, and not on Biblical covenants or genetic inheritance. In his view, "The problem of the Khazar infusion a thousand years ago ... is irrelevant to modern Israel". In addition, he was apparently "either unaware of or oblivious to the use anti-Semites had made to the Khazar theory since its introduction at the turn of the century."

Nevertheless, in the Arab world the Khazar theory still enjoys popularity among some anti-Zionists and antisemites; Such proponents argue that if Ashkenazi Jews are primarily Khazar and not Semitic in origin, they would have no historical claim to Israel, nor would they be the subject of God's Biblical promise of Canaan to the Israelites, thus undermining the theological basis of both Jewish religious Zionists and Christian Zionists. In the 1970s and 80s the Khazar theory was also advanced by some Russian chauvinist antisemites, particularly the historian Lev Gumilyov, who portrayed "Judeo-Khazars" as having repeatedly sabotaged Russia's development since the 7th century.

Bernard Lewis stated in 1999:

This theory… is supported by no evidence whatsoever. It has long since been abandoned by all serious scholars in the field, including those in Arab countries, where the Khazar theory is little used except in occasional political polemics.



DNA Evidence

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars#DNA_Evidence

A 1999 study by Hammer et al., published in the Proceedings of the United States National Academy of Sciences compared the Y chromosomes of Ashkenazi, Roman, North African, Kurdish, Near Eastern, Yemenite, and Ethiopian Jews with 16 non-Jewish groups from similar geographic locations. It found that "Despite their long-term residence in different countries and isolation from one another, most Jewish populations were not significantly different from one another at the genetic level... The results support the hypothesis that the paternal gene pools of Jewish communities from Europe, North Africa, and the Middle East descended from a common Middle Eastern ancestral population, and suggest that most Jewish communities have remained relatively isolated from neighboring non-Jewish communities during and after the Diaspora." According to Nicholas Wade "The results accord with Jewish history and tradition and refute theories like those holding that Jewish communities consist mostly of converts from other faiths, or that they are descended from the Khazars, a medieval Turkish tribe that adopted Judaism."

A 2001 study by Nebel et al. found Haplogroup R1a chromosomes (called Eu 19 in the paper), which are very frequent in Eastern European populations (54%-60%), at elevated frequency (12.7%) in Ashkenazi Jews. The authors hypothesized that these chromosomes could reflect low-level gene flow into Ashkenazi populations from surrounding Eastern European populations, or, alternatively, that both the Ashkenazi Jews in Haplogroup R1a, and to a greater extent all Eastern European populations in general, might have some partial Khazar ancestry.

A 2003 study of the Y-chromosome by Behar et al. found that among Ashkenazi Levites, who comprise approximately 4% of Ashkenazi Jews, the prevalence of Haplogroup R1a1 was over 50%. This haplogroup is uncommon in other Jewish groups, but found in high frequencies in eastern European populations. They argued that "it is likely that the event leading to a high frequency of R1a1 NRYs within the Ashkenazi Levites involved very few, and possibly only one, founding father." They postulated that one likely source of the gene was a "a founder(s) of non-Jewish European ancestry, whose descendents were able to assume Levite status", and that an alternate "attractive source would be the Khazarian Kingdom, whose ruling class is thought to have converted to Judaism in the 8th or 9th century." The concluded that "[a]lthough neither the NRY haplogroup composition of the majority of Ashkenazi Jews nor the microsatellite haplotype composition of the R1a1 haplogroup within Ashkenazi Levites is consistent with a major Khazar or other European origin, as has been speculated by some authors (Baron 1957; Dunlop 1967; Ben-Sasson 1976; Keys 1999), one cannot rule out the important contribution of a single or a few founders among contemporary Ashkenazi Levites."

A 2005 study by Nebel et al., based on Y chromosome polymorphic markers, showed that Ashkenazi Jews are more closely related to other Jewish and Middle Eastern groups than to their local neighbouring populations in Europe. However, 11.5% of male Ashkenazim were found to belong to Haplogroup R1a1 (R-M17), the dominant Y chromosome haplogroup in Eastern Europeans, suggesting possible gene flow between the two groups. The authors hypothesized that "R-M17 chromosomes in Ashkenazim may represent vestiges of the mysterious Khazars". They concluded "However, if the R-M17 chromosomes in Ashkenazi Jews do indeed represent the vestiges of the mysterious Khazars then, according to our data, this contribution was limited to either a single founder or a few closely related men, and does not exceed ~ 12% of the present-day Ashkenazim.

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A Brief Refutation of the Heresy that the Jews of Today are Gentile Khazars Having Converted to Talmudic Judaism in the 800s

There is a seemingly universal acceptance of a “doctrine of faith” among the American patriot community, and others, that the “Jews” of today are in fact Gentile Khazars having originated out of a Gentile Kingdom known as Khazaria in the mid 800s. Before beginning this brief refutation we must first know that the English Bible of the Protestant Reformation, the AV1611, stoutly condemns such a notorious heresy having first originated in Jesuit-controlled Austria in the late Nineteenth Century.

According to the Word of God, historic Israel was a nation composed of a race of people with a distinct language (Hebrew), a land or geographic location and a culture (including circumcision) founded upon the Torah—the five books of Moses. The foundation for the creation of this sovereign nation was the Abrahamic Covenant. This Covenant, also called “the everlasting covenant” in Isaiah 24:5, promised a “land,” a “nation” and a “blessing” to Abraham (Genesis 12:1-3). That land was further described in Genesis 15:7, and the Promise was sealed with a set of blood sacrifices with Abram asleep, the LORD passing as a “burning furnace” between the pieces of those cut up sacrifices thereby making the Abrahamic Covenant a UNILATERAL (one-sided) Covenant (Genesis 15:8-21). Thus, Abraham and his descendants have no obligation to do anything to bring that covenant to pass. The Abrahamic Covenant is absolute, cannot be annulled, and is “without repentance” (Romans 11:29). The sign of this Covenant of Promise to Abraham and his seed was circumcision of all males (Genesis 17:7-10).

An additional promise to Abraham was that he would have a singular “seed” (Genesis 22:18) in which all the nations of the earth would be blessed, which seed was Christ (Galatians 3:16). This Covenant of Promise was passed from Abraham to Isaac; from Isaac to Jacob; and from Jacob to his twelve sons. These are four of “the promises made unto the fathers” (land, seed, blessing and singular seed) which the Lord Jesus Christ came to “confirm” (Romans 15:8). Again, these promises are UNCONTITIONAL, meaning that Abraham and his physical posterity have no conditions to fulfill in order for the Abrahamic Covenant to be brought to pass, this Covenant having never been completely fulfilled. It is God, for his holy name’s sake, Who will ultimately fulfill the promises herein stated. This fact is extremely important when addressing the subsequent Mosaic Covenant which covenant was CONDITIONAL, as we shall observe in Deuteronomy 28.
As we know, Israel was given the Mosaic Covenant, which Covenant was CONDITIONAL; that is, if the nation was to enjoy the blessing of the land promised to Abraham, then she was commanded to obey the Law of Moses. There were two parties to the Contract, Jehovah and Israel. Both parties had duties and obligations to fulfill. Israel’s obedience brought God’s blessing; Israel’s disobedience brought God’s cursing and ultimate removal off the “promised land” beginning in 606 BC via the hand of Babylon. But the land never ceased to belong to Abraham’s physical seed. Why? Because the land promise given to Abraham and his physical seed was “without repentance.” This fact is key in discerning which people have title to the land today called Israel in the Middle East. Does that land belong to the Jews or to the Arab Moslems? Do the Arab Moslems (called Palestinians by Rome) have any legal title to Gaza or the West Bank? The Abrahamic Covenant answers the question providing that the Jews who call themselves “Jews” today are in fact true Jews, also called “Hebrews” and “Israelites,” inhabiting a portion of the “promised land” at this moment. Biblically, all three terms—Jews, Hebrews and Israelites—are synonymous, remembering that “the Jews” have a “religion” distinct from their race (Galatians 1:13-14). We must not forget that the Apostle Paul was a Hebrew of the tribe of Benjamin (Philippians 3:5); that he was an Israelite and a physical seed of Abraham (Romans 11:1); and that he was a Jew of Tarsus (Acts 21:39), who before his salvation in Messiah Jesus, was a Pharisee (Philippians 3:5) practicing “the Jews’ religion” (Galatians 1:14). We agree that there were certain Gentiles in the past who converted to the Jews’ religion (Esther 8:17; John 12:20-22; Acts 2:10, etc.), but they never became Hebrews as a race. They remained Gentile proselytes and were distinguished as such by the priests who kept the genealogical records in the Second Temple. These Gentiles, were never considered racial Hebrews within the nation of Israel; they remained only Gentile converts anticipating the fulfillment of the Abrahamic covenant—the coming of that “seed” who was Messiah. Their Gentile seed was mixed into the nation and absorbed, as were the descendants of Gentiles Rachab and Ruth, but the gene pool of the twelve tribes has not been corrupted or substituted with Gentile peoples known as “the Khazars.”

Again as we know, the Hebrews were moved off the land as foretold by Moses. The LORD’s removal of the Israelites off the land given to them through Abraham via the Abrahamic Covenant was to be international. This removal has come to be known as the “Diaspora.” There is even a plant called “the Wandering Jew.” During the past 2000 years, from 70AD to the present, the racial Jews have been dispersed among the nations, preserved by God for the future fulfillment of his UNCONDITIONAL promises made to His Friend and servant, Abraham. It is for this reason that the Prophet Malachi declared in 3:6:

“For I am the LORD [Abrahamic covenant-keeping Jehovah] I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.”

And again in Ezekiel 11:16:

“Therefore say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Although I have cast them far off among the heathen, and although I have scattered them among the countries, yet will I be to them as a little sanctuary in the countries where they shall come.”

And again in Hosea 3:4-5:

“For the children of Israel shall abide many days without a king, and without a prince, and without a sacrifice, and without an image, and without an ephod and without teraphim:
Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the LORD their God, and David their king; and shall fear the LORD and his goodness in the latter days.”

During this time of international Disapora, the racial seed or physical descendants of Jacob—the man renamed Israel—would be preserved. This sovereign preservation of a race yet to inherit the promises, given to the fathers Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, would include the preservation of their language (Hebrew) and their culture (circumcision, synagogue attendance and dietary laws, etc.) so as to distinguish them as a peculiar people among all of the Gentile nations. Unfortunately during the Diaspora the racial Jews/Hebrews/Israelites would be “the tail” of all nations and fiercely persecuted as we read in Deuteronomy 28:64-67:

“And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor they fathers have known, even wood and stone.
And among these nations shalt thou find no ease, neither shall the sole of thy foot have rest: but the LORD shall give thee there a trembling heart, and failing of eyes, and sorrow of mind:
And thy life shall hang in doubt before thee; and thou shalt fear day and night, and shalt have none assurance of they life:
In the morning thou shalt say, Would God it were even! and at even thou shalt say, Would God it were morning! for the fear of thine heart wherewith thou shalt fear, and for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see.”

In short, this means mass persecution of the Hebrew/Jewish race throughout the Disapora, which prophecy was reaffirmed by Messiah Jesus in Luke 21:22-24:

“For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! For there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people [“lao” from “laos”—a people, tribe, nation; all those who are of the same stock and language (Thayer’s Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament, p. 372)].
And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.”

Therefore, the international Dispora and accompanying persecution of the racial Jews/Hebrews/Israelites was foretold by Moses and confirmed by Christ. The reasons for this are two: the breaking of the Mosaic Law and the rejection of their Messiah. And it is most notable that Rome has always been the font of anti-Jewish fury, and the impetus of the persecution of Jews. Thus the LORD is using the devil to fulfill the words of His prophets.

By logical extension, if the Jews are to be persecuted among the nations while in international dispersion (in which persecution historic Bible Believing Protestant and Baptist nations have never engaged unless their governments have been usurped by the Jesuits), these Hebrews must be recognizable to all Gentile nations into whose lands the Israelites have been driven. The racial identity of the Jews, prophetically speaking, can never be lost or secretly replaced by Gentiles posing as racial Jews. If this substitution can be done, and the Jews as we know them today are not in fact racial Jews, then their persecution cannot be fulfilled as foretold above. Therefore, the theory that Gentile Khazars replaced the Jewish race, as we know that people of today, is in fact a religious heresy and historical non-event.
THE KHAZARS

Of the Khazars we read from a document condemned by the Papacy’s Index of forbidden books. That document is The Encyclopedia Britannica, Ninth Edition, 1903, Volume XIV, pp. 59-60. A few portions are as follows:

“This vanished people, . . . as Khazirs in Armenian and Khwalisses in Russian chronicles, . . . occupied a prominent place amongst the Byzantine state-system. . . . the Khazars are an historic figure upon the borderland of Europe and Asia for at least nine hundred years (190-1100 A.D.). The three hundred and fifty ears 600-950- mark the epoch of their greatness, but their rise can be trace for four centuries before, and their decline for one hundred and fifty years to follow. Their home was in the spurs of the Caucasus and along the shores of the Caspian—the ‘sea of the Khazars;’ and their cities, all of them populous and civilized commercial centers, were Itil, the capital, upon the delta of the Volga, the ‘river of the Khazars,’ Semender (Tarkhu), the older capital, Khamlidje or Khalendsch, Belendscher, the outpost towards Armenia, and Sarkel on the Don. They were the Venetians of the Caspian and the Euxine, the organizers of the transit between the two basins, the universal carriers between East and West; and Itil was the meeting-place of the commerce of Persia, of Byzantium, of Armenia, of Russia, and of the Bulgarians of the middle Volga. . . . in its zenith Khazaria extended from the Dnieper to Bolgari upon the middle Volga, and along the eastern shore of the Caspian to Asterabad.

Ethnology—Few points have been more disputed than the origin of this interesting people; and there is still no consent amongst authorities upon the subject. They are assigned to the Turkish stock by Lathan and Howorth, . . . and have even been claimed as Jews on account of their use of the Hebrew character and the profession of the Hebrew faith amongst them. But their geographical position, their history, and the contemporary witness we have as to their physical character, their language, and their own national tradition, may be accepted as conclusive proof that the Khazars were an indigenous people of the Caucasus, and near akin to the [Orthodox] Armenians and the [Orthodox] Georgians. . . . Nevertheless there are many points connected with the Khazars which indicate a close connection with Ugrian or Turkish peoples. . . .
There were Khazars and Kara (black) Khazars. The ‘Khazars’ were fair-skinned, black-haired, and of a remarkable beauty and stature; their women indeed were sought as wives equally at Byzantium and Baghdad; while the ‘Kara Khazars’ were ugly, short, and were reported by the Arabs almost as dark as Indians. The latter were indubitably the Ugrian nomads of the steppe, akin to the Tartar invaders of Europe, Huns, Bulgarians, and Hungarians, who filled the armies and convoyed the caravans of the ruling caste [again illustrating White supremacy and Black subordination as decreed by Noah]. But the Khazars proper were a civic commercial people, the founders of cities, remarkable for somewhat elaborate political institutions, for persistence, and for good faith—all qualities foreign to the Hunnic character.

They are identified with good reason . . . with the . . . ‘White Khazars’ who appear upon the lower Volga in the Byzantine annals, . . . There was throughout historic times a close connection which eventually amounted to political identity between the Khazars and the Barsileens (the Passils of Moses or Chorene) who occupied the delta of the Volga; and the Barsileens can be traced through the pages of Ptolemy . . . to the so-called Royal Syths, . . . whose political superiority and commercial enterprise led to this rendering of their name [Scythians being equated with uncircumcised barbarians by the Apostle Paul in Colossians 3:11]. Such points, however, need not here be further pursued than to establish the presence of this white race (‘La Race Blonde’ of Klaproth) around the Caspian and the Euxine throughout historic times. They appear in European history as White Huns (Ephthalites), White Ugrians (Sar-ogours), White Bulgarians. They were the carriers between Europe and the farthest East. . . . They bore the brunt of each of the great waves of Tartar conquests, and were eventually overwhelmed. . . .

[Thus the Khazars were merchants of the White Race and traceable to the Royal Scythians some of which adopted Judaism. They were highly developed in the arts, quite intelligent, produced beautiful women who were sought out as wives by surrounding nations, and were eventually overrun by the Tartars.]

History.—From out of the mass of this white race of the steppe the Khazars can be first historically distinguished at the end of the 2d century of our era. . . .
In the interval between the decline of the Mohammedan empire and the rise of Russia, the Khazars reached the zenith of their power. The merchants of Byzantium, Armenia, and Baghdad met in the markets of Itil . . . and traded for the wax, furs, leather, and honey that came down the Volga. So important was this traffic held at Constantinople that, when the portage to the Don was endangered by the irruption of a fresh horde of Turks (the Petchenegs), the emperor Theophilus himself dispatched the materials and the workmen to build for the Khazars a fortress impregnable to their forays (844). Famous as the one stone structure is in that stoneless region, the post became known far and wide amongst the hordes of the steppe as Sar-kel or the White Abode. Merchants from every nation found protection, justice, and perfect good faith in the Khazar cities. The Jews, expelled from Constantinople, sought a home amongst them, developed the Khazar trade, and contended with Mohammedans and Christians for the theological allegiance of the pagan people. The dynasty accepted Judaism (circ. 740), but there was equal tolerance for all, and each man was held amenable to the authorized code and to the official judges of the faith which he professed. . . .

It was, however, from a power that Constantine did not consider that the overthrow of the Khazars came. . . . Oleg, the Russ prince of Kieff, passed through the Slav tribes if the Dnieper basin with the cry ‘Pay nothing to the Khazars’ (884). The kingdom dwindled rapidly to its ancient limits between the Caucasus, the Volga, and the Don, whilst the Russian traders of Novgorod and Kieff supplanted the Khazars as the carries between Constantinople and the north. When Ibn Fadlan visited Khazaria forty years later, Itil was even yet a great city, with baths and market-places and thirty mosques. But there was no domestic product of manufacture; the kingdom depended solely upon the now precarious transit dues; and the king or great khakan was a roi fainéant hidden from the sight of men, the actual administration being in the hands of a major domus also called khakan. At the assault of Swiatoslav of Kieff the rotten fabric crumbled into dust. His [Oleg’s] troops were equally at home on land and water. Sarkel, Itil, and Semender surrendered to him (965-969). He pushed his conquests to the Caucasus, and established Russian colonies upon the Sea of Azoff. The principality of Tmoutorakan, founded by his grandson Mstislav (988), replaced the kingdom of Khazaria, the last trace of which was extinguished by a joint expedition of Russians and Byzantines (1016). The last of the khakans, George Trula, was taken prisoner. A remnant of the nation took refuge in an island of the Caspian (Siahcouye), others returned to the Caucasus; part emigrated to the district of Kasakhi in Georgia, and appear for the last time joining with Georgia in her successful effort to throw off the yoke of the Seljuk Turks (1089).”

Thus we see that according to this record the Khazars were of the White race and at the apex of their power were great merchants, honest and just. The ruling dynasty adopted Judaism, but the pagan Khazarian people generally refused. Khazaria ultimately had a large Moslem population and in the end was overrun by the Orthodox peoples of Byzantium and Russia. It is most enlightening that no mention is made of the Khazars adopting Judaism, though Jews were present in the kingdom and greatly increased the wealth of Khazaria via their God-given commercial skills necessary for the preservation of the race during the Disapora. Again, no mention is made of the Khazars embracing Judaism; only the ruling dynasty adopted “the Jews’ religion” in 740 AD most assuredly for political and commercial reasons.

Dr. Peter Ruckman, though not as precise as the author would prefer, summarizes the matter quite succinctly when he writes in his Israel: A Deadly Piece of Dirt, (Pensacola, Florida: BB Bookstore, 2001) pp. 207-209:

“On the evening of the Bolshevist Revolution, there were still 3,000,000 Jews in Russia; many of them took Communist posts in Lenin’s dictatorship.
When these Jews became ‘commissars,’ they were all labeled as full-blooded ‘Reds;’ so, much of the anti-Semitic literature in America between 1920 and 1980 blames the Jews for the promotion of Communism. Along with this one will find (in the radically anti-Semitic publications in Europe [put forth by the Jesuits]) the false information to the effect that every Jew in America is really a Russian ‘Khazar.’
This means that any right-wing Conservative—especially the Roman Catholic Conservatives—can safely persecute Israel (or ‘Israelites’ or ‘Jews,’ etc.) and get away with it without incurring the curse that God mentioned to Abraham (Gen.12:1-3), which was passed on to Isaac and then Jacob and then to the twelve literal Jewish TRIBES. . . .
The way that American Catholics try to get out from under this curse—so they can treat Jews the way Hitler treated them—is to pretend that the modern Jew is not the real ‘Israel.’ Conservative Protestants produce Scripture to support this delusion (Rom. 2:29) [refusing to distinguish those who are “Jews inwardly” referred to in this scripture, and those who are racial Jews as were the Apostle Paul (Acts 21:39) and the Apostle Peter (Gal. 2:14)]. . . .
The ‘party line’ with British-Israelites, Black Muslims, and ‘Yawehists’ is that the modern Jew is nothing but a mongrel half-breed Jew, ‘like the ones who killed Jesus Christ.’ If you can couple the Khazars with the Protocols [authored by French Jesuits in their Community of Sion in Valais just prior to the Dreyfus Affair] (see App. 1), you can carry out Adolph’s ‘final solution’ without any qualms of conscience. That is the material on which he ‘cut his teeth’ in [Jesuit-ruled, Roman Catholic] Vienna before World War I.
‘Khazaria’ was a land of nomad, heathen Russians who lived in central Asia between the Black and Caspian Seas. They stretched inland (north of the Georgia-Armenia area by about 400-500 miles; extending from Guranji on the east, to the Oxus River, to Buda and Kazimierz on the west). The Jews of the Diaspora had the good fortune to lead one of their kings (Bulan) to become a convert to Judaism (see Esther 8:17) in A.D. 700 [A.D. 740]. A later king (Obadiah) invited Rabbis into Khazaria to set up a ‘Supreme Court.’ It had seven judges; these judges were two Jews, two Christians, two Moslems, and one ‘heathen.’ (A fair and square set up if you ever saw one!).
In A.D. 970, Russian troops attacked Khazaria, and by 1016, they had overrun it and driven every Jew out of Russia or Byzantium (Constantinople) or to seaports on the Mediterranean in Greece, Albania, and Turkey. There is no historical evidence, whatsoever to prove that one single Jew in Europe or America is (or ever was) a ‘Khazar.’ If either case were true, it would mean nothing. Every ‘Caucasian’ in America today was certainly not from the Caucasus (A Caucasian) in his former ‘estate.’ Hundreds of thousands of them had been Germans, Irishmen, and Englishmen; and thousands of them had been Frenchmen, Slavs, and Italians. ‘Khazaria” went out of business more than 900 years ago.”

Khazarian Empire At its Height, 9th Century A. D.
The Encyclopedia Britannica, Fifteenth Edition, (Chicago: William Benton, 1974) Volume V, p. 788.
 In conclusion, the teaching that the Jews of today are not true Jews, that they are in fact Gentile Khazars who converted to Judaism in the Eighth Century is a heresy secretly espoused by the agents of Rome. Though the king and a few nobles evidently converted to Judaism, the White Khazars of the Empire never became Jews. Therefore, the Ashkenazi Jews of Europe are not Khazars, but indeed racial Jews springing from one of the four women having birthed the twelve sons of Jacob. (We need not forget that though Leah and Rachael were sisters and therefore of the same race as was Jacob, handmaids Bilhah and Zilpah were not of the same race, possibly darker and thus the reason for the racial diversity of true Jews, the Ashkenazi being lighter and the Sephardic Jews being darker.) Further, we regard the Khazarian heresy as a justification to persecute those who are described by the Lord Jesus Christ in Revelation 2:9 as those who:

“. . . say they are Jews [physically] and are not [Jews “by nature” (Gal.2:15) or “indwardly” whose “circumcision is that of the heart” (Rom.2:29)].”

In conclusion, in light of the everlasting, UNCONDITIONAL Abrahamic Covenant; in light of the present international Disapora as foretold by Moses; in light of the LORD’s promise to preserve the physical descendants of Jacob during this Diaspora; in light of the continued persecution of the Hebrew/Jewish race for the last nineteen centuries with more to come including “the time of Jacob’s trouble” (Jeremiah 30:7); in light of the fact that Israel must exist as a nation prior to the Second Coming of her rejected Messiah (Ezekiel 38:8); in light of the fact that Jerusalem must be inhabited with “Jews” before the return of her Messiah who will place his feet on the Mount of Olives just as he left the earth (Zechariah 14:4; Acts 1:11); in light of the fact that a third temple must be built in order for the “sacrifice and oblation to cease” at the command of the Roman “prince that shall come” being “the abomination of desolation” (Daniel 9:27; Matt. 24:15); we believe that the present population of the nation of Israel is composed of Jews, 80 percent being racial Jews, 20 percent being Jews by religion. We believe that these people have an inalienable, God-given right to their land and that the Gentile Arab Moslems are merely pawns to be used in Rome’s anti-Israel agitation purposed to kill more racial Jews, while the Pope’s Masonic Jewish Zionists continue to make concessions to Rome.

Therefore, though the LORD Jesus Christ has established the nation of Israel via the agency of Satan using his popish Jesuits, we believe that the nation is composed of Jews, not Khazars, and that these racial Jews have a right to possess that land without obedience to the Mosaic Covenant, that covenant having been done away with by the sacrifice of Christ, evidenced by the tearing of the veil ‘from the top to the bottom” in the second temple immediately after the death of the Lord Jesus (Matt. 27:51).

Eric Jon Phelps
P.O. Box 306
Newmanstown, PA
17073

[meksar]

The people we call Jews today are Khazar's and a website like Wikipedia is a Zionist affair anyway, this is why we are being ruled over by the Khazar Empire/Synagogue of Satan. Even those who try to put the Jesuit spin on it now are going to have to come clean about Loyola being a Marrano(The Original Crypto Jews) and of course this is where the Wahhabi version of Islam originates from so there can be no doubt that the Zionists control the three major religions and Freemasonry.

[meksar]

I think Jordan Maxwell pretty much sums up the Khazar's here at 0:42 and yes Bush Sr and Jr are Khazar's, im glad i didn't trust a Zionist disinformation agent like Phelps to begin with.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImRItozEg6I

[kappy0405]

I'm inclined to believe the Khazar theory. There are other sources for this besides those mentioned in the OP. Either way, it doesn't really matter all that much whether its true or not. Common sense tells us that a majority of the Semetic region converted from Judaism to Christiantiy over time, and then from Christianity to Islam over time. Point being, regardless of whether certain Jews in Israel can trace their ancestry to ancient Israel, many Christians and Muslims in the area can as well. So whether this Khazar idea is a hoax or not is irrelevant - it's retarded to label ANY religious group as Semites & use it as a means to oppress other Semites, or non-Semites.

[rodin]

OP - You might as well say there is no such thing as gravity

[flyermay]

If the Khazarian theory is a hoax, how come most Jews are not semite; but Caucasian?

[onourwayto2012]

Well whoever the **** they are alot of them have been royal dickheads.

[grachtengordel]

wikipedia.

"wikipedia"?

you are going to have to do better that that.

EVERYONE knows that the AntiDefamationLeauge has totally infiltrated that joke of a site.

[runciter]

aronia you'd better ask to close this thread too, your phelps cheerleadering is a failure.

do you want us to post info in a thread we'll be unable to bump in the future? c'mon, be fair.

[aronia]

aronia you'd better ask to close this thread too, your phelps cheerleadering is a failure.

do you want us to post info in a thread we'll be unable to bump in the future? c'mon, be fair.

I don`t no what to do - all this stuf about jewish bloodlines controlling the illuminati is way to much and it`s destroying the thread.

Anyway

I have more infomation to add to this thread.

[rodin]

aronia you'd better ask to close this thread too, your phelps cheerleadering is a failure.

do you want us to post info in a thread we'll be unable to bump in the future? c'mon, be fair.

No chance of that

But we can keep referring to the closed threads I guess. Important information there now.

[runciter]

article from israeli newspaper haaretz

If the majority of the Jews were not exiled, how is it that so many of them reached almost every country on earth? Zand says they emigrated of their own volition or, if they were among those exiled to Babylon, remained there because they chose to. Contrary to conventional belief, the Jewish religion tried to induce members of other faiths to become Jews, which explains how there came to be millions of Jews in the world. As the Book of Esther, for example, notes, "And many of the people of the land became Jews; for the fear of the Jews fell upon them."

Zand quotes from many existing studies, some of which were written in Israel but shunted out of the central discourse. He also describes at length the Jewish kingdom of Himyar in the southern Arabian Peninsula and the Jewish Berbers in North Africa. The community of Jews in Spain sprang from Arabs who became Jews and arrived with the forces that captured Spain from the Christians, and from European-born individuals who had also become Jews.

The first Jews of Ashkenaz (Germany) did not come from the Land of Israel and did not reach Eastern Europe from Germany, but became Jews in the Khazar Kingdom in the Caucasus. Zand explains the origins of Yiddish culture: it was not a Jewish import from Germany, but the result of the connection between the offspring of the Kuzari and Germans who traveled to the East, some of them as merchants.

We find, then, that the members of a variety of peoples and races, blond and black, brown and yellow, became Jews in large numbers. According to Zand, the Zionist need to devise for them a shared ethnicity and historical continuity produced a long series of inventions and fictions, along with an invocation of racist theses. Some were concocted in the minds of those who conceived the Zionist movement, while others were offered as the findings of genetic studies conducted in Israel.

Prof. Zand teaches at Tel Aviv University. His book, "When and How Was the Jewish People Invented?" (published by Resling in Hebrew), is intended to promote the idea that Israel should be a "state of all its citizens" - Jews, Arabs and others - in contrast to its declared identity as a "Jewish and democratic" state. Personal stories, a prolonged theoretical discussion and abundant sarcastic quips do not help the book, but its historical chapters are well-written and cite numerous facts and insights that many Israelis will be astonished to read for the first time.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/959229.html

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

Most Cordial & Joyous Felicitations Runci! :)

It's not as bad as you think, it is worse than you can imagine. :(


Biblically, 90% of us are the 'Seeds of Abraham', as per Yahwehs promise to Abraham to multiply his descendants.

Do the math.

!2 sons, tribes from Ishmael, 12 sons & Tribes from Isaac.

Abraham took another wife after Sarah died and sired a further six males.

So theoretically at this time, 90% +or- of the Planets Population are descendant from Abraham. :)


funny how things work out, isn't it?

Kind Regards

[flyermay]

Most Cordial & Joyous Felicitations Runci! :)

It's not as bad as you think, it is worse than you can imagine. :(


Biblically, 90% of us are the 'Seeds of Abraham', as per Yahwehs promise to Abraham to multiply his descendants.

Do the math.

!2 sons, tribes from Ishmael, 12 sons & Tribes from Isaac.

Abraham took another wife after Sarah died and sired a further six males.

So theoretically at this time, 90% +or- of the Planets Population are descendant from Abraham. :)


funny how things work out, isn't it?

Kind Regards

Good point!

The problem is, and the bible recognise it, there were more people around the world apart from the "chosen ones". ;)

[amethyst]

There are true "ethnic" jews who exist, but their numbers are apparently small in number. These would come from the tribe of Judah, just one of the 12 tribes that make up what is known as "Israel".

The other so called "jews" would be considered "fake" jews, or people who call themselves jewish, but in reality, are not ethnically related at all to real ethnic jews.

That's where it gets confusing to most people, because the majority of dumbed down people have been told that Israel is made up of just jews.......but this couldn't be further from the truth.

There are 11 other tribes also included in what makes up "Israel". And it's not a piece of land in the Middle East either.

True ethnic Israelites are spread out all over the world and most do not even realise that they could possibly be from one of the 12 tribes of Israel.

This suppression of truth is all by design of course by some individuals who don't want anyone to know the real story. Anyone discussing the real truth is immediately labeled "racist".....a convenient way to censor what really is the truth.

The original history of Britain, and by extension, the US, Australia, Europe etc. etc. is all about this suppression of truth......but people have to do their homework and start connecting the dots.

[soulja]

The whole hofjuden for the big bad jesuits is a carefully crafted disinfo campaign, a campaign that hit the alternative scene a couple of years ago, with guys like oxley (2tuff) promoting this ''info'' on pretty much every conspiracy related board around. it's designed to muddle the waters, to shift the blame on mainly one group, the jesuits. sure they are part of the elite, sure they should be researched and exposed. but be careful to not fall into the ''they are the pinnacle of power'' trap, a trap which serves the PTB well seeing as the destruction of all conventional religions is on the agenda for the new age.

The vatican lost most of his power a long time ago, it served it's purpose for the elite but now it's time for the vatican's demise. You watch.

As for Phelps, he's a fraud at best, and a willing shill at worst. Vatican Assassins is one of the sloppiest researched books i've ever read. pure conjecture, misrepresentation of quotes to fit the jesuit spin, and the simple technique of attaching the name jesuits to every known conspiracy outthere. After all it was the jesuits who started vietnam, took out kennedy, and are the power behind the rothschilds, didn't ya know?

:rolleyes:

[mynameis]

If the Khazarian theory is a hoax, how come most Jews are not semite; but Caucasian?

It may depend on census data within western cultures. I think the idea of nationality are vestiges of primitive times. We are a planetary species after all.

About 80% of Arabs are white; 17% say they're white and another race.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2003-11-20-arab-americans_x.htm

[runciter]

the main proponent of the khazar theory was jewish author koestler

http://www.bethamisr.org/library/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/13th.jpg

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

Good point!

The problem is, and the bible recognise it, there were more people around the world apart from the "chosen ones". ;)

Precisely; also at the National Revelation at Sinai, Yahweh addressed a mixed multitude of the Tribes/Jews and Gentiles.

There are true "ethnic" jews who exist, but their numbers are apparently small in number. These would come from the tribe of Judah, just one of the 12 tribes that make up what is known as "Israel".

The other so called "jews" would be considered "fake" jews, or people who call themselves jewish, but in reality, are not ethnically related at all to real ethnic jews.

That's where it gets confusing to most people, because the majority of dumbed down people have been told that Israel is made up of just jews.......but this couldn't be further from the truth.

There are 11 other tribes also included in what makes up "Israel". And it's not a piece of land in the Middle East either.

True ethnic Israelites are spread out all over the world and most do not even realise that they could possibly be from one of the 12 tribes of Israel.

This suppression of truth is all by design of course by some individuals who don't want anyone to know the real story. Anyone discussing the real truth is immediately labeled "racist".....a convenient way to censor what really is the truth.

The original history of Britain, and by extension, the US, Australia, Europe etc. etc. is all about this suppression of truth......but people have to do their homework and start connecting the dots.

This explains a great deal.

http://www.yourarmstoisrael.org/Articles_new/restoration/?page=home&type=2

http://www.yourarmstoisrael.org/Articles_new/restoration/?page=26&type=12

Part 26 Torah
THE PROMISE TO END SLAVERY

In Bereshith 15:13 Yahweh prophesies to Avraham that his seed will be strangers in a strange land for 400 years. We learn that the nation enslaving them would be judged, while Abraham’s children would make an exodus with great wealth. Yahweh uses the 400 years as a general time frame even tough the actual time of slavery was 430 years. In Bereshith 46:4 Yahweh tells Israel/Yakkov to go down to Mitzrayim in order that Yahweh can bring to pass the patriarchal promise of physical multiplicity, while Yahweh promises to be with Yisrael in Mitzrayim. When Yahweh is with you, no one can be against you or His plan for your life. Yahweh also promises to return Israel to Canaan, when He brings them up again from Mitzrayim. This promise is confirmed to Yisrael in Bereshith 28:15.

INITIAL OFFER

Yisrael was to be set-apart by their prophesied exodus from Egypt, and in order to seal their set-apartness from all nations, they were to be given a Torah or a set of loving instructions. According to Devarim/Deut. 4:6, all nations would then see that “only a wise (spiritual), and understanding people was this GREAT (physical) nation. Israel was brought forth, and set-apart to shine before men. In like manner Yahshua renewed that call in Matityahu 5:13-14. Torah would become their wisdom after the presentation of Torah to Yisrael on Horeb. When Israel obeys Yahweh’s ways, all nations will confess our greatness, and our favor before man and Yahweh. On Sinai/Horeb Yahweh betrothed Himself to Yisrael. This betrothal is called an eruzin. It is a pledge unto consummation rather than a consummation act itself. In Tehillim 138:4 the Devar Yahweh calls on all the earth’s kings, and rulers to give thanks to Yahweh for His Torah being given to national Israel. The exodus was not merely to remove Israel from bondage but to allow all nations, and all kings of all nations to hear the Words of Yahweh known as Torah. Our sages have taught us that at first Yahweh revealed, and offered his chesed/grace to the sons of Esau/Edom, as it is written in Devarim 33:2. But they rejected Yahweh, even though He rose up first to offer Torah to Esau. However Esau rejected the Torah from Sinai, when Yahweh “rose in Seir” only to be denied. Then Yahweh offered the Torah to the rest of the sons of Ishmael symbolized by Mt. Paran, who according to Devarim 33:2-3, also rejected the “shining forth” of Torah from Sinai, even though the manifestation of fire accompanied it, along with myriads of melachim/angels!

“HEBREW-NATIONAL” ADAM

When Edom and Ishmael rejected the Torah, Yahweh then turned to His second son, the second Adam or national Adam. That, among a myriad of other reasons is why most of the modern Arabs hate Israel, (both houses) since they rejected the true Word of Yahweh, which Israel later accepted. Ultimately the Arabs adopted the false words of a man made deity called Allah. Not only do Edomites hate Israel for accepting the living oracles, they also hate Israel (Jews and most Christians) for having accepted the “living Torah”, the Messiah Yahshua Himself. Today’s Muslims have once again rejected the living Torah, (true biblical Yahshua as Yahweh’s ONLY brought forth SON!) as their Edomite and Ishmaelite forefathers rejected the living oracles shining forth from Sinai. Even today Muslims claim that Gabriel gave the latter revelation of the Koran, to Mohammed in large part to CORRECT THE ERRORS OF TORAH that the Jews and Christians added when they corrupted the Torah’s truth! Nothing much has changed in the last 3,500 years.

According to Hebraic understanding, there are actually three Adams. There is Adam the first husband of Chavah, the nation of Israel, and the promised Moshaich. Scripture calls Messiah Yahshua the second Adam. But the second physical Adam is actually the personification of the second corporate Adam known as the nation of Israel. This concept can be fully grasped from such scriptures as Hosea 11:1 and Shemot 4:22-23. These scriptures speak of Yahweh’s three sons as Adam, Israel, and Messiah Yahshua. The second son was to be a light to the nations, as they were called, and ordained to take the light, and liberating truth of Torah to all nations. For that evangelical purpose, all Israel was betrothed to Almighty Yahweh. Israel was delivered by chesed/grace from Mitzrayim to fulfill Yahweh’s purpose, as well as to fulfill covenant to the patriarchs. Sadly Israel did not fulfill their divine mission, due to rabbinical fences placed around the Torah to prevent others from enjoying its light, and grace. These manmade additions, and fences designed to keep non-Israelites out of Torah light, was distasteful and displeasing to our Heavenly Abba. Surely He would need to address this issue in the future.

THE SMOKING MOUNTAIN

Scripture teaches that quaking, smoking, light, and thunderings accompanied the giving of Torah according to Shemot/Exodus 20:18-19. All of the people of Israel gathered at Sinai saw the lighting, fire, and smoke, and heard the shofar. This is the only kind of smoking Yahweh approves of. When all Israel saw this smoking, they backed off, and stood at a distance from fear. In verse 18 the word thunderings is used rather than the singular thunder. The assembly at Sinai when the ecclesia was first born in 1500 BCE, was gathered to see this light and fire show, so they in turn could turn to the nations, and let Yahweh’s light shine forth. Among the many manifestations was the ongoing thunderings (plural)! According to the understanding of Jewish-Israel, the thunderings were given in the plural form, so that the living oracles of Torah would be given in many tongues or languages, and that all 70 known nations at the time of the exodus would and could receive the grace that Israel was receiving at Sinai. It was Yahweh’s purpose to deliver His Word in tongues, so that all known nations could and should walk in the light of Torah, as a lamp to their feet, and a light to their path (Tehillim 119:105). The thunderings represented Yahweh's affirmation that it was always His desire for all nations to hear His Word, not merely the immediate recipients at the base of Sinai. In fact at Sinai, Psalm 138:4 began to take place, as the Torah was given in the tongues of all the earth’s rulers, who in turn would also teach it to their peoples. It was for this reason that the nation heard thunderings not merely thunder!

A TORAH OF TONGUES OF FIRE

The idea and concept that Yahweh split His voice in 70 tongues, is a Hebraic concept based on both tradition and Torah. His split His voice in order to signify that Torah was for all nations of the earth, not just for the people today known as the Jews or Jewish-Israel. To signify this desire, He split His voice in a supernatural manifestation in 70 differing ways, so that all nations would have an inward desire to hear, walk, and receive the truths of Torah. In due course, they all would receive the exact same chesesd/grace that Israel His son was receiving in person on Sinai, through the nation of Israel. When Yahweh birthed the ecclesia at Sinai circa 1500 BCE, He supernaturally ordained the thunderings, so as to signify that the sound of Torah was to encompass the globe, and not be limited to that one particular place, time or nation. Israel’s task was to take that same Torah to the nations that had previously rejected Torah, when Yahweh came personally knocking on their door.

In many ways the nations did to Israel after Sinai what they did to Yahweh when He came knocking before Sinai according to Devarim 33:2-4. Yahweh knowing the future, chose Israel who He knew would accept Torah (Shemot/Exodus 5:1). He manifested the Torah to Israel in 70 separate or cloven tongues of fire, in order that Israel return to the nations, and deposit Torah into all nations, even the ones who had earlier rejected Yahweh’s springing, and shining forth! Israel would inherit this task which is a great calling, since this calling can be considered the initial Great Commission, with Messiah Yahshua's admonition in Matityahu 28:18-20 being the renewal of the Great Commission, given to the same renewed ecclesia that in times past had stood at the foot of Horeb. The inheritance of Torah is for Israel alone but the reception of Torah is for all nations. The rabbis of antiquity recognized Torah as being for all nations, which is why they established the Sanhedrin with 70 elders, with the high priest representing Israel before Yahweh, and the 70 elders representing the 70 known nations before the high court of Israel.


Kind Regards

[rodin]

Aronia should acknowledge that Phelps comes from a Israeli diamond trading family, he openly calls himself a Zionist also. The truth is that the Illuminati is controlled by these elite Jewish bloodlines from a human level. These bloodlines are in every race and religion, however the Zionist Jews stick together and are notorious liars, thief's and exploiters of justice and humanity.

Basically I can tell Phelps is full of it and thats before reading Vatican Assassins

[kasalt]

Eric Jon Phelps is a Jesuit temporal coadjutor.

[aronia]

It seems that Eric is wrong about todays jews are real jews.

Anyway

I was never 100% sure he was right or wrong.

See these to links :

LINK (http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/index.php?showtopic=63790)

LINK (http://z10.invisionfree.com/The_Unhived_Mind_II/index.php?showtopic=19415)

[1977]

The Khazar theory was promoted by Freemason and League of Nations backer Henry Ford in the Dearborn Independent. He claimed he never read the articles he'd put his byline on.

[darketernal]

I've cleaned this thread up a bit. Please stay on topic. If you disagree with the ideas expressed in the thread feel free to present your side of the debate, however please do so without trolling or dragging off-topic posts all over the thread. It is disrespectful to both the OP and to the forum as a whole. Thank you.

[runciter]

The Khazar theory was promoted by Freemason and League of Nations backer Henry Ford in the Dearborn Independent. He claimed he never read the articles he'd put his byline on.

i posted about jewish author koestler and israeli historian zand, who both adopted this theory.

[aronia]

There are true "ethnic" jews who exist, but their numbers are apparently small in number. These would come from the tribe of Judah, just one of the 12 tribes that make up what is known as "Israel".

The other so called "jews" would be considered "fake" jews, or people who call themselves jewish, but in reality, are not ethnically related at all to real ethnic jews.

That's where it gets confusing to most people, because the majority of dumbed down people have been told that Israel is made up of just jews.......but this couldn't be further from the truth.

There are 11 other tribes also included in what makes up "Israel". And it's not a piece of land in the Middle East either.

True ethnic Israelites are spread out all over the world and most do not even realise that they could possibly be from one of the 12 tribes of Israel.

This suppression of truth is all by design of course by some individuals who don't want anyone to know the real story. Anyone discussing the real truth is immediately labeled "racist".....a convenient way to censor what really is the truth.

The original history of Britain, and by extension, the US, Australia, Europe etc. etc. is all about this suppression of truth......but people have to do their homework and start connecting the dots.


See here what i find.

The non-Jewish origins of the Sephardic Jews by Paul Wexler

http://books.google.dk/books?id=XZwO2TX8EOcC&pg=PA75&lpg=PA75&dq=the+non+jewish+origin+of+Sephardi+Jews&source=bl&ots=0JbH6O0eh8&sig=Ya_SLWT18cjvdjJTc1C2sZhAeos&hl=da&ei=oWL6SvXWNMfm-QbnnekC&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CBgQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=the%20non%20jewish%20origin%20of%20Sephardi%20Je ws&f=false

[flyermay]

I just came across this text in 'the biggest secret':

"What we call the Jewish race also originated in the Caucasus region and not, as claimed, in Israel. Jewish historical and anthropological sources have shown that only a few of the people known as Jewish have any genetic connection to Israel. In the 8th century a people called the Khazars living in the Caucasus Mountains and southern Russia had a mass conversion to the Jewish religion. Later when that empire folded, these same people made their way north over a long period of time to settle in other parts of Russia, Lithuania and Estonia. From there they entered Western Europe and eventually the United States. The Rothschild family is one of these bloodlines. These are the same people who justified the takeover of Arab Palestine after the last war by saying that ‘God’ had given them an ancient right to that land as his ‘chosen people’. In truth their original homeland is the Caucasus region and southern Russia, not Israel.

See ...And The Truth Shall Set You Free for a detailed and sourced account of this story and the secret society manipulation that was behind the creation of Israel, or Rothschildland as it really is."

Sorry if anyone has posted it already.

[lizzy]

The whole hofjuden for the big bad jesuits is a carefully crafted disinfo campaign, a campaign that hit the alternative scene a couple of years ago, with guys like oxley (2tuff) promoting this ''info'' on pretty much every conspiracy related board around. it's designed to muddle the waters, to shift the blame on mainly one group, the jesuits. sure they are part of the elite, sure they should be researched and exposed. but be careful to not fall into the ''they are the pinnacle of power'' trap, a trap which serves the PTB well seeing as the destruction of all conventional religions is on the agenda for the new age.

The vatican lost most of his power a long time ago, it served it's purpose for the elite but now it's time for the vatican's demise. You watch.

As for Phelps, he's a fraud at best, and a willing shill at worst. Vatican Assassins is one of the sloppiest researched books i've ever read. pure conjecture, misrepresentation of quotes to fit the jesuit spin, and the simple technique of attaching the name jesuits to every known conspiracy outthere. After all it was the jesuits who started vietnam, took out kennedy, and are the power behind the rothschilds, didn't ya know?

:rolleyes:

That's how I see it.

the main proponent of the khazar theory was jewish author koestler

http://www.bethamisr.org/library/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/13th.jpg


writing it sealed his demise / murder in London hotel room .

I see the khazar's as a tribe that survived the last iceage 13,000 yrs ago in the mountian caves....Troglodytes. Before the ice age they inhabited Ethiopia and the Red sea, perhaps 25-50,000 yrs before Bablonia around 7700BC.
They lived on the fleash of cattle and amixture of cow's milk and blood. Those among them who were too feeble to work ,"useless eaters" were stoned to death.
Apparently, itis thought that a number of male elders abscounded before their time and hid in the Caucasus mts.......they preyed on unsuspecting visitors collecting tolls to pass and kidnapping women . Being a phallic (dog priest) lot they disgaurded women after the child rearing task was done, keeping only the lighter skinned offspring.........

I see them as instinctually predatory...animals are better than they are.