Hugo Chavez Vows Revenge For Falklands War

[december]

GO CHAVEZ!!!

LET'S GET'EM!

:D


IN a new outburst of antiwestern sabre-rattling, President Hugo Chavez of Venezuela has threatened Britain with “revenge” for the Falklands war of 1982. The belligerent Latin American leftist warned last week that his recent build-up of sophisticated Russian and Iranian weapons would be used to destroy the British fleet if it attempted to return to the South Atlantic.

Speaking on his weekly television show Alo Presidente (Hello, Mr President), Chavez denounced what he described as Britain’s “illegal occupation” of the Falklands and repeated his call for a regional military alliance against Britain and the United States.

“If we had been united in the last war, we could have stopped the old empire,” Chavez said, as he gesticulated to maps showing how Venezuelan aircraft and submarines would intercept British warships. “Today we could sink the British fleet.”

Chavez has often expressed support for Argentina’s claim to the Falklands, but his latest broadside was notable for both its antiBritish vitriol and its unprecedented threats. He declared that British history was “stained with the blood of South America’s indigenous people” and demanded revenge for the “cowardly” sinking of the General Belgrano, the Argentine cruiser.

Western diplomats have long grown used to harangues from Chavez, who announced this weekend that he would negotiate with guerrillas holding dozens of hostages in Colombia, including three US contractors and Ingrid Betancourt, a French-Colombian abducted as she campaigned for president in 2002. But US and British officials have recently become more concerned by his willingness to lavish billions of dollars from Venezuela’s soaring oil income on military capabilities.

On his TV programme, Chavez introduced a group of 30 Venezuelan pilots who were trained in Russia to fly a squadron of 24 Sukhoi SU-30 multi-role fighters. The aircraft were part of a $3 billion armaments deal with Moscow. :)

Chavez has also bought 100,000 AK-47 assault rifles and negotiated to set up a Kalashnikov factory in Venezuela. He has reportedly ordered nine Russian diesel submarines, including the cruise missile-carrying 677E Amur-class vessel.

The Venezuelan pilots told him they would soon be training with medium-range BrahMos missiles, a supersonic antiship cruise missile jointly developed by India and Russia.

US officials also fear that Chavez may be seeking nuclear technology from his contacts with Iran and North Korea. He is discussing a possible joint programme with Tehran to build an unmanned drone aircraft similar to the American Predator and has long been engaged in a regional attempt to promote military cooperation against the US.

So far most of his neighbours have shied away from confrontation with Washington, but Chavez is continuing to press for the creation of a “single South American army”.

His outspoken attacks on Britain and his support for Buenos Aires have gone down well in Argentina, where President Nestor Kirchner’s wife, Cristina, is the favourite to succeed her husband in elections next month.

While there is no indication that either of the Kirchners wants to precipitate a new crisis over the Falklands, military analysts say Venezuela’s lengthening military reach might seriously impede any British attempt to dispatch a new task force.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article2368707.ece


President of Venezuela Hugo Chavez in Russia

http://img.rian.ru/images/6818/82/68188268.jpg

“Many people say that I have come here to buy weapons. In fact, this is not the priority. The goal of my visit is to promote cultural ties and cooperation, which should move ahead of politics and the economy,” the Venezuelan leader said in Moscow.

http://img.rian.ru/images/6818/85/68188503.jpg

Russia and Venezuela, which account for a substantial part of global oil production, should coordinate oil prices and consider joint oil projects, the Venezuelan president said at a meeting in the lower house of Russia’s parliament.

[cheeb]

The Russians sold him,
A toy helicopter.
Thats funny!!!

[december]

The Russians sold him,
A toy helicopter.
Thats funny!!!

I assume that was a typical dull English joke. Correct?
Ha-ha-ha......

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez visiting a helicopter plant in Rostov, southern Russia.

http://img.rian.ru/images/6818/83/68188333.jpg

http://img.rian.ru/images/6818/80/68188077.jpg

[cheeb]

You trust Chavez,
With a dismembered black head,
On his shoulder,
And a wierd halo on his head,
The bloke doesn't even know which end to hold,
A sword from!!!
:eek:

[december]

A sword from!!!
:eek:

That's what our good friend Hugo Chavez needs to cut the British Illuminati heads off. :)

Do you support the British Illiminati, cheeb? You sound like you are not happy or something...

[cheeb]

That's what our good friend Hugo Chavez needs to cut the British Illuminati heads off. :)

Do you support the British Illiminati, cheeb? You sound like you are not happy or something...

No! course I don't,
The Falklands war was pointless,
Margaret Thatcher doing a bit of,
Sabre ratteling,
The British governments only
interest in the Falklands,
Is that it is in a strategic position,
If oil is ever found at the south pole,
It's called the Malvinas to the Argentinians,

Thatcher-Mother of 1000 dead!!!

;)

[december]

No! course I don't,
The Falklands war was pointless...

Well, OK then... :)

So now go to the Venezuelan embassy in London which is at 1 Cromwell Road and ask them how you can help.
I think you'd better call them first - Tel: 020 7584 4206/7

:)

http://venezuela.embassyhomepage.com/venezuela_embassy_london_uk.gif

[december]

Let's teach those British imperialists a lesson! :D


http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/images/AIR_SU-30MK_Underside_lg.jpg

Venezuela Buying SU-30s, Helicopters, et. al. From Russia

There have been a series of reports from a number of sources that Venezuela has finalized a deal with Russian arms manufacturers. Those reports have now shifted the total from $1 billion to around $3 billion, and expand its focus beyond SU-30MK2 (Mnogofunktzionniy Komercheskiy 2-seat) long-range multi-role fighters and various Russian helicopters to include other equipment as well. The final deal is reportedly still being negotiated.

Russian deals are extremely non-transparent, and often there are conflicting reports with no official confirmation of announced reports or additional details released. Based on news reports from various sources, however, here's what DID can tell you about the likely shape of the deal and the nature of the equipment in question, aside from the USA's predictably futile requests that Russia not go through with the sale.

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/venezuela-buying-su30s-helicopters-et-al-from-russia-02472

Russia's Su-30MK Flanker en Venezuela

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[december]

1982 invasion of the Falkland Islands

On April 2, 1982 Argentine forces mounted amphibious landings of the Falkland Islands (Spanish: Islas Malvinas), following on from the civilian occupation of South Georgia on March 19, before the Falklands War began. This article describes the initial defence organised by the Falkland Islands' Governor Sir Rex Hunt giving command to Major Mike Norman RM, the landing of Lieutenant-Commander Guillermo Sanchez-Sabarots' Special Forces, the attack on Moody Brook Barracks, the engagement between the troops of Hugo Santillan and Bill Trollope at Stanley, and the battle and final surrender of Government House.

1982 invasion of the Falkland Islands - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Russia's Su-30MK Flanker en Venezuela

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[hagbard_celine]

http://www.oilvoice.com/Falkland_Oil_Gas_Announces_Preliminary_Results_For _the_Nine/9194.htm .

That’s right, almost inevitably, the Falkland Islands has a nearby oil and gas field. I guessed that and I’m not psychic!

Also if you look at the islands on an atlas you’ll see that they sit at an important strategic location: what navel tacticians call a “choke point”. All ships entering the Pacific Ocean, not using the Panama Canal have to pass around Cape Horn or through the Straits of Magallan, just a short distance from the Falklands! An easy place to base a permanent naval force to control the area. (Incidentally who controls the Panama Canal? The Panamanians? Hardly!) Another choke point is the Straits of Gibralter, which Britain also control, through our colony there. See a pattern emerging?

If it wasn’t for these factors I doubt if the UK govt would have made to much effort to reclaim the islands... And would Argentina have even bothered to invade them in the first place?

Why is chavez so keen on this? Doesn't anyone ever ask themselves why so much attention is paid to this tiny scrap of land?

[december]

http://www.oilvoice.com/Falkland_Oil_Gas_Announces_Preliminary_Results_For _the_Nine/9194.htm .

That’s right, almost inevitably, the Falkland Islands has a nearby oil and gas field.

That's just WONDERFUL!!! :)


Oil tops Chavez talks in Russia
Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has met Russia's President Vladimir Putin in Moscow to discuss co-operation between their huge energy industries.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/europe/4044977.stm

http://english.people.com.cn/200607/28/images/chavez.jpg

[soglad]

December, what are your views on unconditional love & peace, regardless of race and creed?

[cheeb]

Well, OK then... :)

So now go to the Venezuelan embassy in London which is at 1 Cromwell Road and ask them how you can help.
I think you'd better call them first - Tel: 020 7584 4206/7

:)

http://venezuela.embassyhomepage.com/venezuela_embassy_london_uk.gif

What has Chavez and Venezuela got to do with the Falklands,?
It was a conflict between,
Britain and Argentina???


General Galtieri, the leader of the millatary junta,
was diverting attention from an economic crisis,
and cival unrest in Argentina,

Margaret Thatcher bolstered support for an ailing conservative party,
By entering into this conflict

She got re elected in 1983
Galtiery was forced to resign,

It really had nothing to do with Veneuzuela!!!!

[synergy777]

december waht do you think of the jesuits/smom/vatican etc, where putin, chavez, bush, blair, brown, castro and every leader of govt goes there? why not pick on the big boys the vatican ?

i can post pics, thanks to 2tuff, where every leader, "" hence all illuminati/new world order "" is kissing/embracing the pope, now why would they do that?

[december]

What has Chavez and Venezuela got to do with the Falklands,?
It was a conflict between,
Britain and Argentina???!!!!

Why do you ask me that question?

[king]

Chaves is either one of them Jessuit Masonic cunts or he is just really ssssttttuuuuuppppeeeed!


how interesting that his bellicose words benefits NWO plans.

he wants revenge?
say what?
what good is that gonna do except produce more dead people?!

[december]

what good is that gonna do except produce more dead people?!

Your words show me your attitude - you just don't understand that for the TRUE patriot it is an Honor to die for your Motherland, which means that you are not willing to sacrifice yourself for what you belive in.

Yes, Argentina and Venezuela are differnt countries but this is only on the paper. These nations are one, they are united by their common history and struggle agianst British imperialists.

GOD BLESS HUGO CHAVEZ!!!

http://www.venezuela-emb.org.au/file/Venezuela_coat_of_arms.jpg

[soglad]

Oh my GOD December, you truly are a deluded, heartless human being. :(

[december]

Oh my GOD December, you truly are a deluded, heartless human being. :(

Would you like to explain your why do you think so?

I am not sure actually how is your statement related to this thread, but I can say the same thing ABOUT YOU as well.

Oh my GOD Soglad, you truly are a deluded, heartless human being. :(

:)

[soglad]

Would you like to explain your why do you think so?

I am not sure actually how is your statement related to this thread, but I can say the same thing ABOUT YOU as well.

Oh my GOD Soglad, you truly are a deluded, heartless human being. :(

:)

Yes, for I constantly parade around the forum spreading hate propaganda all the time....

Wake up December, you're killing yourself.

/end

[december]

Yes, for I constantly parade around the forum spreading hate propaganda all the time....

Wake up December, you're killing yourself.

/end

Where do I spread hate propaganda? Are you OK?
Just open a Feel Good thread for yourself and post there what you like to read...

[hagbard_celine]

What has Chavez and Venezuela got to do with the Falklands,?
It was a conflict between,
Britain and Argentina???


General Galtieri, the leader of the millatary junta,
was diverting attention from an economic crisis,
and cival unrest in Argentina,

Margaret Thatcher bolstered support for an ailing conservative party,
By entering into this conflict

She got re elected in 1983
Galtiery was forced to resign,

It really had nothing to do with Veneuzuela!!!!

No, but Venezuela currently has interests in letting South America control its own regional oil production. I think that's fair enough really; why should the USA and Europe dominate the whole industry?

To this day, few question the official story of the Falklands war: that is was an act of redemption and justice. We see it in simple terms: Argentina stole the islands illegally and we went in to take them back, and to free the Falklander people who wanted to remain British. This would all sound very noble if it wasn’t for the fact that the govt has never done anything else motivated by the needs and aspirations of the common folk.

[december]

....Argentina stole the islands illegally and we went in to take them back.

Can you explain that?

What rights does the British island have on the Falkland island?

The British island is soooooooo faaaaaar away from the Falklands that it just doen't make any sense to say that Argentina stole the islands from a country which is located on the other part of the planet...

[december]

Argentina stole the islands illegally and we went in to take them back.......


Chavez rails against Blair on Falklands

By Jeremy McDermott, Latin America Correspondent
Last Updated: 12:36am GMT 11/02/2006

Venezuela's president has told Tony Blair to return the Falkland Islands to Argentina and accused the Prime Minister of being a pawn of Washington.

"We have to remember the Malvinas; how they were taken away from the Argentines," President Hugo Chavez said, using the Argentine term for the islands. "Mr Blair, return the Malvinas to Argentina."

Along with Fidel Casto, the socialist leader has long been the most vocal critic of President George W Bush in Latin America. But Mr Blair has now been added to his list of "imperialists" after the Prime Minister advised him this week to "abide by the rules of the international community".

"Mr Tony Blair you have no moral right to tell anyone to respect international laws, as you have shown no respect for them, aligning yourself with 'Mr Danger' [President Bush] and trampling on the people of Iraq," said Mr Chavez.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/02/11/wchav11.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/02/11/ixworld.html

[hagbard_celine]

Can you explain that?

What rights does the British island have on the Falkland island?

The British island is soooooooo faaaaaar away from the Falklands that it just doen't make any sense to say that Argentina stole the islands from a country which is located on the other part of the planet...

Well nobody can call any part of our home planet their "property". The Earth belongs to itself. However the people who live there universally and very staunchly rejected Argentina's invasion and want to remain a British colony; their wishes must be heard. Maybe if they knew the true motives of their leaders they'd change their mind. I'd like to see them put in a claim for home rule!

I do not support Thatcher's actions in this incident. I oppose the British claim as much as I do the Argentinian one. The govt might have said that they were doing this for the Falklander people, but since when has the govt really ever done anything for the good of the common folk? Nah! They had their eyes fixed on the big oil field!

[dondaz]

December likes stiring the shit. He likes to throw spray cans in the fire.

Is that a masonic handshake I see between Putin and Chavez, I believe so. They work for the same boss. You know this december so why put on a facade. You are playing the same games they are playing you silly little boy!

Did you model yourself after one of those Russian dolls, layer after layer of lies and dis-info and deciet?

[john white]

[b]Your words show me your attitude - you just don't understand that for the TRUE patriot it is an Honor to die for your Motherland, which means that you are not willing to sacrifice yourself for what you belive in.

"I bleed for my Notion"

Good God December, you transcend sad!

[king]

Your words show me your attitude - you just don't understand that for the TRUE patriot it is an Honor to die for your Motherland, which means that you are not willing to sacrifice yourself for what you belive in.

Yes, Argentina and Venezuela are differnt countries but this is only on the paper. These nations are one, they are united by their common history and struggle agianst British imperialists.

GOD BLESS HUGO CHAVEZ!!!

http://www.venezuela-emb.org.au/file/Venezuela_coat_of_arms.jpg

i do not think anyone understands your "blow them all up" and "Russia got baddest weaponz" attitude. Let's suppose Russia does use a 'bad' weapon against your city in U.S.
Would you still cheer Russian "firepower" if they say nuked Chicago and you happen to be just living there doing whatever you do, just like your neighbors?
Do you know what will be the next thing? and thing after that?
http://iacmusic.com/Uploads/14913_7_22_2006_12_04_17_AM_-_AAA_nukes.jpg
will you be as calm as these fisherman?
is that what you are saying?

humans have been killing each other for their Illuminati masters for many millenniums now. why aren't you able to see that violence creates more violence?

just wondering have you heard of evolution of consciousness ?
what do you think about world without a war, without oppression, without poverty?

[december]

We see it in simple terms: Argentina stole the islands illegally and we went in to take them back.....

I oppose the British claim....

Hagbard_celine, are you a lawyer by any chance?.... :D

[hagbard_celine]

Hagbard_celine, are you a lawyer by any chance?.... :D


No. Why do you ask? This thread is about the Falklands. If you want to persue this subject then you need to start a new thread entitled: "Hagbard_Celine- Is He a Lawyer?"

I'm opposed to all forms of land ownership and national terrotorial rights. Britain has no right to "own" the Falkland Islands, but neither does Argentina or any other South American country. However in the absence my proposal being made law then the say of the people who live in particular piece of land must be held supreme. The Falklander people unanimously wish to remain under British Rule. As I said in my post above, I think they're making a mistake, but the choice has to be theirs.

[dondaz]

The Falklander people unanimously wish to remain under British Rule. As I said in my post above, I think they're making a mistake, but the choice has to be theirs.

This is what the people want. But I think there may be plans to use the islands for another war in the not so distant future.:eek:

[hagbard_celine]

This is what the people want. But I think there may be plans to use the islands for another war in the not so distant future.:eek:


You can bet! This is partly because of its location: it lies right by what the navy calls a "choke point", but also because of it's big, juicey oil fields.

[guuna]

with all the military spending cuts, the Argies might be tempted to give it a go at some point.

[andyh]

with all the military spending cuts, the Argies might be tempted to give it a go at some point.

I've seen some forum bumps before but this takes the piss lol.

[babybumasylum]

I've seen some forum bumps before but this takes the piss lol.

He has a point though, from the outside the uk might look weak given that four days of carnage was allowed to take place unabated on its streets

[andyh]

He has a point though, from the outside the uk might look weak given that four days of carnage was allowed to take place unabated on its streets

http://content.mydamnchannel.com/datastore/UserFiles/Success-Kid-THIS-IS-EPIC-BUMP.jpg

lol :D

[guuna]

http://content.mydamnchannel.com/datastore/UserFiles/Success-Kid-THIS-IS-EPIC-BUMP.jpg

lol :D

I specialise in piss taking thread bumps.

bumpity bump.:D

[babybumasylum]

True
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