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herushura
06-11-2009, 02:32 AM
Today's Zodiac calender is 2000 years out of date due to the Precisions of the equinox, i will calculate accurate dates with maths.
Year 1 = Age of Pisces
2160 years in Every Age, and each Zodiac House is 30 Degrees.
2160 / 30degrees = 72 Degrees / Every 72 years = 1 Degree.
72 degrees / 2010 = 27.916 degrees (let call it 28 Degrees)

In 2010 the Spring Equinox happens on the 20th of March, But since year 1, pisces has moved away from the equinox by 28 degrees, thus i count 28 days
after the equinox, to the proximate date were the zodiac rises.

2010 Zodiac Times
17th April > 17th May = Pisces
18th May > 17th June = Aries
18th June > 19th July = Taurus
20th July > 19th August = Gemini
20th August > 19th September = Cancer
20th September > 19th October = Leo
20th October > 18th November = Virgo
19th November > 18th December = Libra
19th December > 16th January = Scorpio
17th January > 14th February = Saggitarius
15th Feburary > 16th March = Capricorn
17th March > 16th April = Aquarius

suicidal_martyr
06-11-2009, 02:39 AM
Wonder if people change or are still governed by what they were at birth? Confusing to me I don't understand a whole lot about Astrology but like reading about traits of the signs so I can know about people beforehand. lol According to this I am a Leo. Just what I wanted, I dislike being a Libra due to indecisiveness and laziness at times but love the analytical trait.

delamo1999
06-11-2009, 03:41 AM
Wonder if people change or are still governed by what they were at birth? Confusing to me I don't understand a whole lot about Astrology but like reading about traits of the signs so I can know about people beforehand. lol According to this I am a Leo. Just what I wanted, I dislike being a Libra due to indecisiveness and laziness at times but love the analytical trait.


The majority of society is skeptical when it comes to astrology and many people have written it off as silly nonsense. Most people who do pay an interest in it are only interested in the entertainment value of it. They may read their horoscope and then forget about it. And yes most of these people who have an interest in astrology are tied to their original birth sign because that is what they have been told to do.

Have you noticed that the astrologers in the big media venues where most people read their horoscopes are big names who have sold out?

It's no wonder that astrology has become viewed as a joke in today's society. I for one would like to see that belief changed.

shellygurrrl
07-11-2009, 08:00 AM
I am nothing like a Leo, which is supposed to be my sign. That list would make me barely a Cancer (Aug 20). Don't know what traits a Cancer is supposed to have, but it can't be worse than Leo. I haven't given much credibility to astrology (it's interesting though) because I don't think it describes me well at all.

zetetic0void
15-11-2009, 02:58 AM
The whole issue of the 'precession of the equinoxes' (this is really the entire sky including the solstice points too) is one issue that is important.

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So on the day I was born, the Sun was in Libra although I'm a "Scorpio"


http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/447/1971nov9scorpiusplanets.jpg

(I turned off "atmosphere" in Stellarium so the sky would not be daytime and block the stars)

Although historically(can't recall right now ...but I think well into the BC era), the stars of Libra were once included as the claws of the constellation Scorpius (two stars in Libra still have names for northern and southern claw). Since then, they have been separated (Scorpius at one time being a 'double sign')


I do find it intriguing that there were three of the planets apparently right around the bright stars Antares in Scorpius (I say apparently because Antares is actually around 600 light years away far far in back of the these planets) when I was born.


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But the issue of whether the ideas of astrology use the actual locations of the sun and planets in relation to the background stars is important.

Or is it based on something such as directions in relation to some chracteristics of the Earth which would remain stable even over the 27000 year or so wobble of the direction of the Earth's rotational axis that slowly causes the precession of the equinoxes and the slippage of all stars away from alignment.

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Myself, being into astronomy, I once thought automatically that astrology was 100 nonsense (I guess people confusing the two was partly the reason haha). Now though, I still feel newspaper horoscopes and other such things are probably all nonsense but perhaps there perhaps is something more interesting that is ignored by that fast-paced vague mass-marketting

Some of the interest in astrology by important scholars and alchemists of the past interests me.

I am wondering if your time of birth, date and location can have an influence over you.

Theoretically I know that 'all of everything is connected' even if the connections are considered weak and thin over planetary distances or over the many light years to even the nearest stars. Even so, just like they say even a butterfly's wings theoretically affects the weather (although not in a way measurable), some connectivity.


I'd like to find out more about this but find a lot of this subject is wishy washy.


I guess I'll investigate into sources of the past (Manly P. Hall could be a good source)

shellygurrrl
15-11-2009, 05:33 AM
how do you find more info on this?

chrysoprase
15-11-2009, 05:56 AM
how do you find more info on this?

Here is a link to a free astrological calculator. Fill in your birthdate, time of birth and place of birth then click submit. You can do it without time of birth, but you will get accurate info with time.

You will instantly (no email) get an astrological wheel and basic description of what it means. I just tested it and from what I remember of my own chart it seems accurate, but the descriptions may be slanted.

If you don't match your sun sign, you may have lots of factors that override the Leo (or whatever) nature.

http://alabe.com/freechart/

There are a lot of good books on astrology. I think Linda Goodman is very wise when it comes to understanding the natures of different signs and planets - she is also a very good writer.

skiver
15-11-2009, 12:19 PM
Great Pyramid : Planet Earth

1 : 43,200


;)

ageofaquarius
15-11-2009, 06:38 PM
Today's Zodiac calender is 2000 years out of date due to the Precisions of the equinox, i will calculate accurate dates with maths.
Year 1 = Age of Pisces
2160 years in Every Age, and each Zodiac House is 30 Degrees.
2160 / 30degrees = 72 Degrees / Every 72 years = 1 Degree.
72 degrees / 2010 = 27.916 degrees (let call it 28 Degrees)

In 2010 the Spring Equinox happens on the 20th of March, But since year 1, pisces has moved away from the equinox by 28 degrees, thus i count 28 days
after the equinox, to the proximate date were the zodiac rises.

2010 Zodiac Times
17th April > 17th May = Pisces
18th May > 17th June = Aries
18th June > 19th July = Taurus
20th July > 19th August = Gemini
20th August > 19th September = Cancer
20th September > 19th October = Leo
20th October > 18th November = Virgo
19th November > 18th December = Libra
19th December > 16th January = Scorpio
17th January > 14th February = Saggitarius
15th Feburary > 16th March = Capricorn
17th March > 16th April = Aquarius

Great, that list would make me a Sagittarius! Shocking. The orginal precessions make me a 'Capricorn', this one makes me a Sag. I act Aquarian like to some extent.

asha loka
16-11-2009, 04:55 AM
Today's Zodiac calender is 2000 years out of date due to the Precisions of the equinox, i will calculate accurate dates with maths.

You're assuming the constellations 'cause' astrology.

The constellations are idealised segments of the sun's yearly cycle. They're not real, and the shapes in them aren't real.

The symbols were created a long time ago, designed as images that are easy to remember.

If the important factor is the position of the sun in the sky around the earth and the energy of the seasons, not the stars behind the sun, precession doesn't matter.

rapunzel
16-11-2009, 09:19 PM
You're assuming the constellations 'cause' astrology.

The constellations are idealised segments of the sun's yearly cycle. They're not real, and the shapes in them aren't real.

The symbols were created a long time ago, designed as images that are easy to remember.

If the important factor is the position of the sun in the sky around the earth and the energy of the seasons, not the stars behind the sun, precession doesn't matter.

What do you mean by the "energy of the seasons"?

sativa
16-11-2009, 09:46 PM
I am nothing like a Leo, which is supposed to be my sign. That list would make me barely a Cancer (Aug 20). Don't know what traits a Cancer is supposed to have, but it can't be worse than Leo. I haven't given much credibility to astrology (it's interesting though) because I don't think it describes me well at all.

have you ever had your WHOLE birthchart done?
its really hard to sum up a person only by SUN sign!
even though it is the most predominant energy we experience,
because the sun rises with us every day, the other planets & points
must also be considered to get the WHOLE picture, and how it all
interacts with one another.
the most important 3, if you can sum it up, to me, would be looking at
the SUN, MOON, & ASCENDANT. (they'll give a good view of someones personality & emotional disposition)
The MOONs nodes give us a hint at our purpose in this life, and the lessons at hand.


PLANETS = are like the actors!
SIGNS = the costumes they choose to wear!
HOUSES= the stages they perform on!

'tis the easiest way for me to sum it up.
your natat chart is like a snapshot of the UNIVERSE the moment you entered this world. it is your person COSMIC symphony of energies. No 2 are alike. YOU are a UNIQUE combination of energy.
:)