Adulteration of Christianity

[rodin]

Currently a topic of research for me. I will post what I find

the early Christian Ecclesias were not communes. In an Ecclesia (a Christian civil community) one might find a carpenter, architect, writer, teacher, or other professionals who operate independent businesses, yet come to the defense of the whole in times of war or natural disaster. These responsible professionals also congregated on the Sabbath Day to discuss the governing of the community and to worship Jesus Christ. As long as one is not violating another's God given rights or blatantly rebelling against the Heavenly Father, he is free to do whatever he may, without State license or regulation. That was the early Christian Ecclesian Way of the first century believers. It is the way of true and divine liberty. The last historical example of an Ecclesia was that of the American Colonies, from the era of 1620 up until and including the time of The Declaration of Independence of 1776. This was the planting of "the body of Christ" in North America.

We read in the Book of Acts that Paul and Silas were establishing Ecclesias (Christian civil governments) all over Greece. They were not building churches (Kuriakon -- institutionalized temples of religion). The Jewish religious leaders did not like it and said of these two men:

"These that have turned the world (system) upside-down are come hither also ... and these all do contrary to the decrees of Caesar, saying that there is another King, one Jesus." (Acts 17:5-8)

The spread of New Testament Ecclesias, erroneously translated "churches" in our Bibles, was upsetting the dictators and church (synagogue) officials in those days. Why? Because tyrants and religious institutions work together to fleece the people of their substance by keeping them controlled, ignorant, and heavily taxed to rob them of the fruit of their labor. When we understand the meaning of the word Ecclesia, and realize what Paul and the rest of the Apostles were really doing in their travels, it becomes apparent why both church clergy and corrupt politicians hated (and still hate) the Gospel of the Kingdom (government) of Jesus Christ. Centralized totalitarian governments create their own churches by licensing them to satisfy the people with religious bobbles, bangles, and emotionalism. The state licensed church in turn feeds the people a diet of "civic responsibility" to support the central government in the name of "God and country". The American colonists well understood this issue and rallied around their Scriptural awareness of Galatians 5:1 with no intention of relinquishing their Ecclesia to the world system.

"Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage." (Gal.5:1) 58 AD

"Whereas we all came into these parts of America ...to enjoy the liberties of the Gospel ... by a wise Providence of God" (Colony Articles of Confederation of 1643-1684. "Providence" was understood to be the Christian God of the Gospel)

"And for the support of this Declaration (of Independence), with a firm reliance on the Protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor." (The Declaration of Independence, July 4, 1776)

It was this Christian Ecclesia experience on the part of our American ancestors that gave rise to the greatest nation on the face of the Earth. Today America has completely lost sight of its Christian purpose for existence as a nation, primarily because the clergy have instructed the people that worshipping God means "to get to church on Sunday".

Exactly how did the word "church" sneak into our Bibles, supplanting the original word "Ecclesia"? It was the 16th century reformer John Calvin who insisted on using the word "church" (in place of using Ecclesia/assembly/congregation) in his version of the Geneva Bible. John Calvin's real name is of Khazar non-Saxon non-Christian origin, Jean Cauvin (French for Cohen), which he later Anglicized to "Calvin" in order to become "THE CHURCH FATHER" of a new instutional religion --- The Presbyterian Church of England. (For Calvin's real name being "Cuavin" see The Encyclopedia of Religion, MacMillan Publishing, 1987, Vol.3 under Calvin, John) Calvin taught the classic Baal worship doctrines of eternal torment in fire, Sunday Sabbath, immortality of the soul/spiritism, suppression of the Holy Name, etc. An enthusiast of international mercantilism Calvin did his best to destroy Ecclesia Christianity in England and elsewhere in Europe.

A few leading Christians of the Reformation, such as William Tyndale, refused to deceive the people over the "church" issue. Tyndale's Bible correctly reads "congregation" and not "church" where the Greek New Testament manuscripts have "Ecclesia". Citing the difference is politically charged. The church/state system captured Tyndale in Antwerp in 1535, had him strangled in a courtyard, and burned his body. Other Christian's of that era who cherished liberty and knew the specific definitions of "church" verses "Christian assembly" were persecuted as heretics. Thus began the rise of CHURCHDOM among the English speaking Protestants, and the decline of the Biblical Ecclesia system of liberty according to divine laws. In conclusion, the New Testament Scriptures forbid and warn the believer from participating in a corporate church institution, known to first century Christians as a "Kuriakon", a state recognized house of Baal.

http://www.solarsabbath.org/churches.htm

[rodin]

THE OCTOPUS STRANGLING CHRISTIANITY

The Freemasonic-Jacobin revolution was successful in ruining the whole of Christianity, according to the same method that now triumphs in overwhelming form in the Jewish-Communist revolution: for the Holy Catholic Church and the whole of Christianity have only been able to fight against the arms of this octopus (the Communist party, revolutionary groups and in a few cases, as in Spain, Freemasonry), although its powerful head has remained untouched. For this reason the monster has been able to renew and restore the limbs which were occasionally cut off it, in order to use them anew and still more effectively, until gradually it has been successful in enslaving half the Christian world (Russia and the East-European states), and now has the plan of enslaving the rest of mankind.

The lasting victory of the Jewish-Freemasonic and Jewish-Communist revolutions since the end of the 18th century up to our days is also to be attributed to the fact that neither the Holy Catholic Church nor the separated Churches1 have fought effectively against the “Jewish Fifth Column”, which has smuggled itself into their bosom.

This “Fifth column” is formed by the descendants of the Jews, who in earlier centuries were converted to Christianity and seemingly held in enthusiastic manner to the religion of Christ, while in secret they preserved their Jewish belief and carried out clandestinely the Jewish rites and ceremonies. For this purpose they organised themselves into communities and secret synagogues, which were active centuries-long in secret. These apparent Christians, but secret Jews, began centuries ago to infiltrate into Christian society, in order to attempt to control it from within. For this reason they sowed false doctrines and differences of opinion and even attempted to gain control of the clergy in the different churches of Christ. With all this, they applied the cunning of introducing crypto-Jewish Christians into the seminaries of the priesthood, who could gain admission into the honorary offices in the Holy Catholic Church and then into the dissident churches, upon whose division these secret Jews had so much influence.

Very extensive work, just wading through it now.

http://www.catholicvoice.co.uk/pinay/

from 'The Plot Against the Church' by Maurice Pinay

[rodin]

A Summary of the findings of Cecil Roth

Cecil Roth, who proves:

1. That crypto-Judaism or concealed Judaism is in its different forms as old as the Jews themselves and that the Jews even in the times of pagan antiquity already used cunning to conceal their real nature as such, so as to appear as ordinary members of the (pagan) people in whose region they lived.

2. That in the 5th century of the Christian era, during the persecutions in Zoroastrian Persia, Jewry went to a certain extent underground.

3. That with the period of flowering of Christian teaching in the 4th century a new phase began in Jewish life, in that the latter claimed for itself the new faith and exclusive possession of the truth, inevitably regarding proselytism as one of its greatest moral obligations.

Although the Christian Church condemned the compulsory conversions or those attained with force and attempted to protect the Jews against these, it nevertheless accepted that they should be subjected to difficulties and pressure, so as to make them more inclined to conversion. In this case they were judged as acting from their own impulse. The author then cites conversions of this kind that were carried out on Minorca, in France and Italy in the 5th and 6th century of the Christian calendar, going on to conclude from this that such conversions of Jews to Christianity could not be sincere and that the new converts continued to practise their Judaism in secret.

He observes how in Byzantium something similar had already happened in the times of Leo the Isaurian, in the year 723, and proves that even in the eighth century of the Christian calendar, i.e. more than two hundred years earlier, the infiltration of the Jews into the bosom of the Church, by means of false conversions had become universal practice from France to Constantinople, from one end of Christian Europe to the other. In this manner there arose alongside Jewry, which openly practised its religion, a subterranean Judaism, whose members were only Christian in appearance.

4. That in Marranism, besides the hypocritical conversion and the practice of Judaism in secret there exists a deeply-rooted tradition, which obligates the Jews to transfer this inclination from parents to the children. The author cites the events in England and Scotland since 1290, where one of the reasons presented for the expulsion of the Jews was that they misled the newly converted to practise Judaism, and that many children were stolen by them and brought into the north of the land, where they continued to practise the old religion i.e. the Jewish. It must be pointed out that after 1290 the Jews were banished from England and no one could be domiciled in the land if he were not a Christian.

In this connection a very interesting reference is made by the renowned Hebrew historian to the assertion of a Jewish chronicler, viz. that to the presence of crypto-Judaism is to be attributed the fact the English so easily accepted the Reformation as well as their preference for Biblical names. It was thus a false conversion of the Jews to Christianity that allowed that “Fifth Column” to arise within the Church of England and made easier its severance from Rome.

It is also evident that these false conversions of Jews in England, far from obtaining for the Church the expected salvation of souls, brought it instead the loss of millions of souls, when the descendants of these false proselytes promoted the Anglican schism.

There are still other very outstanding cases of false conversions of Jews to Christianity, among them that of the “neofiti” in the south of Italy, as recorded by Cecil Roth, who were persecuted by the Inquisition and of whom many were burned at the stake in Rome.

It is important to mention the fact that the Inquisition which functioned in Rome was, of course, the Holy Papal Inquisition whose serviceable activity was successful in the Middle Ages in holding up the progress of the apocalyptic beast of the Antichrist for three hundred years.

5. That the phenomenon of Crypto-Judaism was not merely confined to the Christian world. One still finds in different parts of the Musulman world, communities of Crypto-Jews, as Cecil Roth observes, who records several examples of Jewish communities in which the Hebrews, who outwardly were Musulmen, are in secret still Jews. This means that the Jews have also introduced a “Fifth Column” into the bosom of the Islamic religion. This fact perhaps explains the many divisions and the uproar which has occurred in the world of Mohammed.

same link as above

How can a pedophile priest be a Christian?

How can Christians approve the mass killings of warfare, or even the execution of individuals?

How can Christians condone abortion?

The current 'Church' does not represent my morality

[rodin]

On Gnosticism

Down the centuries the Gnostic heresies all but rubbed Christianity out. Like Biblical “Higher Criticism,” the term gnosis (knowledge) assumes a superior way of harmonizing opposites.

Gnosticism has been defined as “a system of syncretizing, an attempt to blend opposite and contradictory tenets into one system to produce union and concord.” Twice in Christ’s message to the Church at Ephesus, He denounces the Nicolataines, a Gnostic cult. (Rev. 2:6, 15) “So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolataines, which thing I hate,” He said. St. Ignatius, St. Clement, St. Iraenaeus, St. Epiphany — early fathers of the Church, wrote with horror of the Nicolataines. St. Iraenaeus described a Christian deacon, Nicholas, as “the master of the Nicolataines.” This and [page 68] subsequent Gnostic cults assumed to find Christian dogmas to justify debauchery. To quote the French historian LaCroix,

“The doctrine which was most common among these heretics was that of community of women and the promiscuity of the sexes. The Carpocratians and Valestians professed that doctrine. Carpocratus, who had studied in the pagan school of Alexandria, was but a disciple of Epicurus, although he called himself a Christian. He made of Jesus Christ, as a matter of fact, an epicurean philosopher.”

http://www.come-and-hear.com/dilling/chapt10.html

Concerning the real origins of Gnosticism, the renowned historians John Yarker and J. Matter agree that Simon the Magician, a Jew converted to Christianity, was the true founder of Gnosticism. Apart from the fact, that he was a mystic cabbalist, he favoured magic and occultism. With a group of Jews he founded a priesthood of “Mysteries”, in which his own teacher Dositheus and his pupils Menandro and Cerinthus figure, who represented a section of his collaborators.11

Simon the Magician, founder of the false Gnostic doctrine – the first to disrupt early Christianity – was also one of the pioneers of the Jewish “Fifth Column” that penetrated into the bosom of Holy Church. The Holy Bible tells us in the Acts of the Apostles how this Jew obtained admittance to Christianity:

Chapter VIII. “9. But there was a certain man, called Simon, which beforetime in the same city used sorcery, and bewitched the people of Samaria, giving out that himself was some great one. 12. But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptised, both men and women. 13. Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptised, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done. 14. Now when the Apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John: 15. Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost: 16. (For as yet He was fallen upon none of them; only they were baptised in the name of the Lord Jesus.) 17. Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost. 18. And when Simon saw that through laying on of the Apostles’ hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money. 19. Saying, ‘Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay hands, he may receive the Holy Ghost.’ 20. But Peter said unto him, ‘Thy money perish with thee, because thou thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money.’12

And after Peter had blamed Simon, the latter answered: “24. Then answered Simon, and said, ‘Pray ye to the Lord for me, that none of these things which ye have spoken come upon me.’”13

This passage of the New Testament reports to us, how the “Fifth Column” of falsely converted Jews arose and what their mode of thought was. Simon the Magician is converted to Christianity and receives the water of baptism; but then, even in the bosom of the Church, he strives to destroy it and attempts nothing more or less than to buy the favour of the Holy Ghost. After the failure of this attempt in the face of the incorruptibility of the apostle Saint Peter, the supreme head of the Church, he pretends repentance in order afterwards to introduce the inner division of Christianity with the heretical schism of the Gnostics. Upon this as also on other occasions the Holy Bible raises its warning cry and shows us what would happen in the future, if the Jews belonging to the “Fifth Column” within the Church and the clergy followed the example of Simon the Magician, by being converted to Christianity in order to attempt to destroy it by means of Simony, to divide it through heretical teachings and then to strive to attain the highest honorary offices of the Church by the most diverse means, including that of buying the favour of the Holy Ghost.

J. Matter, the renowned historian of Gnosticism reports to us that the leading Jewish personages, the Alexandrian philosophers Philo and Aristobulus, who were completely and utterly true to the religion of their fathers, resolved to deck themselves out with the remains of other systems and make a way clear to Jewry for enormous conquests; both were also leaders of Gnosticism and Cabbalists. The said author explains: “That the Cabbala predates Gnosticism, is a viewpoint that Christian writers little understand, but which the scholars of Judaism profess with true certainty”; they also assert that Gnosticism was not exactly a falling away from Christianity but a combination of systems in which several Christian elements were taken up.15

After diligent study of the material, the learned English writer Nesta H. Webster comes to the conclusion that “the goal of Gnosticism was not to adapt the Cabbala to Christian practice, but to adapt Christianity to Cabbalist practices, by mixing its pure and simple teaching with theosophy and even with magic.”16

This attempt to adapt Christianity according to Cabbalist practices, the Jewish Cabbalists have repeated as often as they could. After the Gnostic failure, they introduced it into the Manichaean sects, then into the Albigensians, the Rosicrucians, Freemasonry, theosophical societies, spiritualists and other sects of different eras which are said to have practised Occultism, which is nothing other than the Hebrew Cabbala with all its derivations.

In his confirmation that Cabbalists founded Gnosticism, the famous historian of Freemasonry, Ragon, reports that: “The Cabbala is the key to the secret sciences. The Gnostics emanated from the Cabbalists”.17

The “Jewish Encyclopaedia” asserts that Gnosticism had a “Jewish character” before it was transformed into a Christian one.”18

http://www.catholicvoice.co.uk/pinay/

[nicolaj]

A Summary of the findings of Cecil Roth



same link as above

How can a pedophile priest be a Christian?

How can Christians approve the mass killings of warfare, or even the execution of individuals?

How can Christians condone abortion?

The current 'Church' does not represent my morality

The current church is the synagogue of satan.

because they where never Christians..or their hearts have been hardened. Those who hear the calling will come out.


Then I heard another voice from heaven say: "Come out of her, my people, so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues;

Enjoyed reading all that thanks for making this thread

[rodin]

The current church is the synagogue of satan.

because they where never Christians..or their hearts have been hardened. Those who hear the calling will come out.


Then I heard another voice from heaven say: "Come out of her, my people, so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues;

Enjoyed reading all that thanks for making this thread

Copy the material from the links and read @ leisure ;)

[nicolaj]

Copy the material from the links and read @ leisure ;)

I have done so thanks :)

[white rabbit]

Edit xd

[rodin]

I think this is contradictory and a real Christian will condone mass killing, execution and abortion, but not only because is a real Christian, because is simply wrong to kill other humans, any person with love will be against killing another human or animal, except for a very good reason(defend yourself from an attack or for the meat) and without pain no matter belief/religion

I think you missed out a not there :eek:

Yes you are right any person with a good moral compass knows what is right and wrong - good and evil

Many are weak and relapse, some actively chose the path of evil that currently leads to Earthly Delights

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/Garden_delights.jpg

[white rabbit]

I think you missed out a not there :eek:

Yes you are right any person with a good moral compass knows what is right and wrong - good and evil

Many are weak and relapse, some actively chose the path of evil that currently leads to Earthly Delights



sorry, my english is very bad :D

[rodin]

sorry, my english is very bad :D

Mistakes like that could get you into a lot of trouble... :D

To my fan (or what hit it)

Did you know I have activated the custom user CP option that lets me know who votes on threads I start... :cool:

[rodin]

Every Church will have one also every Tesco

http://www.orovalleyhomes4sale.com/images/capitol_christmas_tree_1995_2.jpg

Judaism — Tree Worship
Tree worship, one of the oldest forms of paganism, is based on the belief that trees are inhabited by spirits of fecundity.

Another of the regular Babylonian Talmudic synagogue festivals today is “New Year for Trees.” Its Talmudic name is “Hamishshah-‘asar bi-shevat,” under which title it is listed in the Babylonian, or synagogue calendar, given in the American Jewish Year Books. It fell, for example, on the 15th of Shevat, 1964, which in our calendar was January 29th.

http://www.come-and-hear.com/dilling/dilling150.jpg

http://www.come-and-hear.com/dilling/chapt07.html#Tree

...not all Lizzies are reptiles :D

ps

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/19/FatherChristmastrial.jpg

Santa Claus, also known as Saint Nicholas

Santa Claus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Santa of course Satan and Auld Nick was Scots for the Devil

Icons of materialism embedded in Christianity

edit

just realised Claus = Lucas

http://www.cwmbran.info/lucas_lamps.htm

Lights on the tree...

[rodin]

Bother Nathanial Kapner explains how the Menorah replaces any Christian symbolism outside the White House

http://theuglytruth.podbean.com/2009/12/02/brother-nathanael-kapner-speaks/

[pi3141]

Interesting thread so far Rodin


The current church is the synagogue of satan.



I read somewhere that when God confused our langauges so we could not understand each other anymore he allowed the word Church to remain understood in all languages as it originally meant - House of Satan, and thus all his people would know not to enter.

I have come to believe that Jesus was trying to tell us the Kingdom of Heaven is here and now, not some far off distant time or place that we had to wait to be fulfilled by prophecies or turns of events. (see 'The First Coming of Christ' can't remember the author right now)

I also believe Jesus was trying to teach us about 'individual responsibility' and that we should not defer to a ruler or government (or Church) etc. Unfortunately it seems people would rather leave our governance to others to deal with so we we do not need to be bothered about it. Fair enough I suppose if our leaders are good people - but of course we see now how that has worked out.

It seems strange to me that while Jesus taught we are all equal and should look after each other, the Elite including the Church, have always strived for a system with a head or single ruler and top down power structure, enforced by laws and a standing army. This seems the opposite to what I believe Jesus was trying to say, so if, as they claim, they are 'believers' and carrying out Gods work, why have a system such as this. This is evidence to me of corruption.

Finally, I have read a bit about Gnosticism and thought that it may hold some truths but reading this thread has now given me a different perspective I shall now have to consider and investigate - many thanks.

[rodin]

How to bring down Christianity

1) Infiltrate

2) Do bad things in its name

3) Attack it http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62534