what the hell do you plan to do when the SHTF ?

[tracker]

got any ideas ?
got any knowledge ?
got any small supplies ?
do you know how to cope ---------if but for a while ?

exactly what is your plan ?

I see a lot of threads about this and that , these folks are bad threads , WTF threads , bad government threads , swine flu threads -------bla bla bla bla bla

but the real issue is

what are you gonna do ?

what plans and stratergies do you already have in place ?

let me here them so that I can put others to rest including my self .

If you dont have any but feel embarrased so much that you refuse to reply , dont worry the view count will show beside the thread to voice that for you .

how many of you actually believe all this stuff , because if you did you would be doing all you can to brace your self .

lets see .

tell me what you are doing about the future .

:cool:

[theprophet]

absolutely nothing

[shodan]

react accordingly to my surroundings and most likely head for the coast line

[tracker]

cool

[tracker]

absolutely nothing
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ one of the 1st I have even come across to just come out with the truth with out trolling , or going around it the long way .

thankyou .

atleast your not afraid of telling truth that you plan to do nothing unlike so many out there ..

:)

[tracker]

react accordingly to my surroundings and most likely head for the coast line

good answer .

:)

[pinkgeranium]

Nothing.


Not stocking up on food

Not stocking up on water

Not running to live on higher ground


Nothing


When my times up, its up



Who in their right mind would want to live in a Post Nuclear/pole shift/
Totalitarian...........whatever!............. broken world?

[bones]

depends on what shit hits the fan!

hyperthetically?

world economy collapses and we get no money and no jobs , food rockets and we all default on our mortgages.

i have all tools and equiptment rdy, food for 1 yr with seeds stored for 3 yrs, ive learned survival from wild food and have learned to set traps for animals.

ive educated my family on what might come and to be calm and listen to me when the time comes.

pretty much what the builderburg meetings have said has come true. fuel/food cost rising, dollar collapsing followed by economic unrest worldwide.

so im confident we aint seen nothing yet.

this is hyperthetical after all aint it? ;)

[theprophet]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ one of the 1st I have even come across to just come out with the truth with out trolling , or going around it the long way .

thankyou .

atleast your not afraid of telling truth that you plan to do nothing unlike so many out there ..

:)

Well i have nothing intended at least, hmm, realistically theres not much i can do except the obvious, like stocking supplies and vitamins or such. And seeing i live in a small town with a huge supermarket down the road, if it does indeed hit the fan, there will be some looting.

Although i suppose it depends on the degree of said shitz to hit the fan.

If the world is going to end, we aint going to survive it lol.

[tracker]

nothing.


Not stocking up on food

not stocking up on water

not running to live on higher ground


nothing


when my times up, its up



who in their right mind would want to live in a post nuclear/pole shift/
totalitarian...........whatever!............. Broken world?


me !

:d

[theprophet]

Nothing.


Not stocking up on food

Not stocking up on water

Not running to live on higher ground


Nothing


When my times up, its up



Who in their right mind would want to live in a Post Nuclear/pole shift/
Totalitarian...........whatever!............. broken world?

Lol and this is practically the same opinion i have.

[pinkgeranium]

me !

:d


Well good luck to you, my friend.

I have no desire to live in a mad world......(well madder than it already is..:o)




When my times up, I am very happy to shake off this mortal coil and find out who the joker is behind all this........or just become worm food.

Which ever it is does not frighten me or worry me a bit.

[creepingdave]

I plan to dance.

[pinkgeranium]

I plan to dance.

What a jolly good idea!

If we get a 3 minute warning, I'l raise a glass of dark rum
to my fellow humans, past and present.

The mad ones, the sane ones

The clever and the Thick

The funny ones, the boring ones

I will raise my glass and salute us all.....

[wazaaap]

i know how i die and it is not when the shtf - so i will be surviving like i allways do - the new wolrd is coming and im gonna make my own eutopia lol

[bluehorseman]

We've got food in the garden and in the sea. I'll be bit pissed off if we have to bug out tho - happy here and we know the place inside out.

[xeon]

If u have nothing to lose u have nothing to fear.

[tracker]

I plan to dance.

Now thats an answer !

my partner did ask the same question once and I said exactly the same thing .

I would dance on top of the garrages outside the house .

let every one see !

:)

[tracker]

If u have nothing to lose u have nothing to fear.


this is true because some of us can loose children

and some of us


dont plan on loosing them !

good answer Xeon.:)

[tracker]

i know how i die and it is not when the shtf - so i will be surviving like i allways do - the new wolrd is coming and im gonna make my own eutopia lol

I dont even plan to go down fighting , I plan to be well away similar to you making something work .

got new threadsby the way dude .

they are in the survival section .

:cool:

[haukipesukone]

When TSHtF I'll finally feel like a load is lifted off my back. I don't have to worry about the pointless stuff that this artificial society makes us worry about. I can't wait for the end of the world as we know it. (Note: end of the world as we know it, so it isn't necessarily the destruction of the Earth and all that.)


EDIT: And I'll be able to say "I told you so" to all my sheeple friends.

[tracker]

When TSHtF I'll finally feel like a load is lifted off my back. I don't have to worry about the pointless stuff that this artificial society makes us worry about. I can't wait for the end of the world as we know it. (Note: end of the world as we know it, so it isn't necessarily the destruction of the Earth and all that.)


EDIT: And I'll be able to say "I told you so" to all my sheeple friends.

I plan to quickly go to the local kentucky
drive my family to the nearest holltop
pull up ringside seats
sit back and tuck in
and
enjoy the show .

:)

[tracker]

bump.:D

[talulah]

I plan to dance.

+1!

[rollotomaz1]

We intend to make the best with what we have, standing up.:)

[tracker]

We intend to make the best with what we have, standing up.:)


its about all we can do at times .

:cool:

[danceswithbunnies]

got any ideas ?
got any knowledge ?
got any small supplies ?
do you know how to cope ---------if but for a while ?

exactly what is your plan ?

I see a lot of threads about this and that , these folks are bad threads , WTF threads , bad government threads , swine flu threads -------bla bla bla bla bla

but the real issue is

what are you gonna do ?

what plans and stratergies do you already have in place ?

let me here them so that I can put others to rest including my self .

If you dont have any but feel embarrased so much that you refuse to reply , dont worry the view count will show beside the thread to voice that for you .

how many of you actually believe all this stuff , because if you did you would be doing all you can to brace your self .

lets see .

tell me what you are doing about the future .

:cool:



The only thing i can tell you is...i have a list and i plan to do some hunting.

Think words like "majority shareholder", that should give you a rough idea of the direction i am headed in

[tracker]

The only thing i can tell you is...i have a list and i plan to do some hunting.

Since the list in question does not involve anyone in government,so it should not be their concern..

true .

:cool:

[danceswithbunnies]

true .

:cool:


..have a list, checking it twice..

think of George Carlin dressed up like a F*cked up version of Santa.

(disclaimer: even though i am female aspects of my personality are definitely Carlinesque)

[lessgov2007]

Let's see... what will I do when it hits the fan? Well, nothing really. I have things covered, and am not worried either.

[bard]

Plan B: Go to the Rocky Mountains and become a Mountain Man

http://gallery4collectors.com/images/MountainMan.jpg

[lessgov2007]

Plan B: Go to the Rocky Mountains and become a Mountain Man

http://gallery4collectors.com/images/MountainMan.jpg Damn, your going to be there? Well I guess I'll go with plan C then. hehe :eek:

[cleopatraxxx]

got any ideas ?
got any knowledge ?
got any small supplies ?
do you know how to cope ---------if but for a while ?

exactly what is your plan ?

I see a lot of threads about this and that , these folks are bad threads , WTF threads , bad government threads , swine flu threads -------bla bla bla bla bla

but the real issue is

what are you gonna do ?

what plans and stratergies do you already have in place ?

let me here them so that I can put others to rest including my self .

If you dont have any but feel embarrased so much that you refuse to reply , dont worry the view count will show beside the thread to voice that for you .

how many of you actually believe all this stuff , because if you did you would be doing all you can to brace your self .

lets see .

tell me what you are doing about the future .

:cool:

at the moment, i have no means on stocking up on anything, so i am only preparing spiritually. to be honest i woudln't mind dying! to live on this planet is hell as things are already, so what for one even would want to live? either someone or starvation killing me is not a problem for me. would be a liberation. might sound selfish, but i am not affraid of death. my only responsibility is my child and that is why i am learning about this crap to somehow teach him that there are bad people and good people.
he alreayd knows that skull and bones symbol means bad people are behind it, the 5 pointed star inverted means satan worship, killing, disease and death, so to stay away from places and people that use it. am trying to teach him other good stuff on how to help others if they need, etc. hwe also knows about aspartame and fluoride. we use bicarbonate of soda to clean the teeth. he doesn't like it, because it is salty, but has to use it and nunderstands ( i think) that it will save his braind from damage. he watches loads of TV which i can't really forbid, but i do explain to him some disguised things in it. Thak goodness he listens.
due to some advertisment of the Hitlers Doctors on the TV, he was thinking that HITLER was an "UNCLE", not understanding the meaning of it! flippin eck! i immediately explained to him what and why and that the swastica is a symbol used by Nazis, the bad guys. I know he is only 8, but it is from a small age that you make them learn and see things. later as we all know here, after you have been programmed it is not easy to deprogramm, even with the biggest evidence in your favor...."comfort zone" is the choice of majority :-(

other than that, when the SHTF, we will see where we are and how to deal with it...

[pinkfreud]

most likely head for the coast line

and i'm going to head for the mountains.

[sativa]

got any ideas ?
got any knowledge ?
got any small supplies ?
do you know how to cope ---------if but for a while ?

exactly what is your plan ?



i have no plan, other than to live my life...
to continue moving forward into the unknown...
with no guides or maps to mark the way...
to trust in the unfolding of that which is unknowable.

fear of death is the only prison. ;)

[tracker]

i have no plan, other than to live my life...
to continue moving forward into the unknown...
with no guides or maps to mark the way...
to trust in the unfolding of that which is unknowable.

fear of death is the only prison. ;)

Good answer , and true too .

i just plan that -----if my life is going to go ----------Im gonna give it all have so that i can live , Im not just going to hand over my life , but that doesnt mean I am afraid of death , Im just not in a hurry to die .

:cool:

[tracker]

..have a list, checking it twice..

think of George Carlin dressed up like a F*cked up version of Santa.

(disclaimer: even though i am female aspects of my personality are definitely Carlinesque)



:D

[nightingale]

Shave my head and jump off a cliff into the sea.

[fairyelfdog]

I am trying to do whatever feels right in the moment. I make plans but I don't worry about the future. When the shit hits the fan I will deal with it. It doesn't matter so much what happens to me. I feel ready for whatever.

[seercirra]

fairy elf...
but what if police knocked on your door tomorrow and gave you a choice of getting a jab or being put in a concentration camp?
what would you do?

what would you do if you know that theyre rounding people up, and you have a little time before they knock on your door. do you have what you need to be able to up and leave?

ive invested in the bare basics. a decent survival kit, waterproof sleeping bag, water purification tabs, good knife. should shit kick off, i can just grab the bag and head to north wales.. (my first port of call considering where im situated)

[clachan]

Plan B: Go to the Rocky Mountains and become a Mountain Man

http://gallery4collectors.com/images/MountainMan.jpg

You mean like Jeramiah Johnson ?

[tracker]

You mean like Jeramiah Johnson ?

or

The Woodsmaster .

:cool:

[tracker]

You mean like Jeramiah Johnson ?

what do you think of this thread for those who find me too harsh ?

http://davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90198


:D

[seercirra]

what do you think of this thread for those who find me too harsh ?

http://davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90198


:D

tracker do you live in the uk?
where in particular would you plan to head?

[tracker]

tracker do you live in the uk?
where in particular would you plan to head?


OUT !

wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy OUT !

if I dont succeed ?

right into prime central .

sometimes

better right under the devils nose , do as they do

in our faces

but invisible .

if you get my drift .

1st chioce -------far far away

2nd right in their own backyard .

:cool:

the chameleon , grey man aproach .

[lightgiver]

what do you think of this thread for those who find me too harsh ?

http://davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90198


:D

I always enjoy your posts,straight to the point ;):D

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1058371318#post1058371318

I envisage quite a few Lord humungusssss roaming the wasteland if the TSHTF :eek:

and all the elites will be tucked away in their nice little safe cities.

[seercirra]

OUT !

wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy OUT !

if I dont succeed ?

right into prime central .

sometimes

better right under the devils nose , do as they do

in our faces

but invisible .

if you get my drift .

1st chioce -------far far away

2nd right in their own backyard .

:cool:

the chameleon , grey man aproach .

yes, ive thought about hiding under their noses too. in the region of about 20-40 miles around army bases :p

i was more specifically looking for place names/areas though :p

i think that the lake district/new forest and the moors will be taken care of, because they know everyone will go to those places.

[clachan]

what do you think of this thread for those who find me too harsh ?

http://davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90198


:D

Not much tbh..........tell it as it is Tracker,who cares what people say or think,people can take it or leave it.

My plan.....batten down the hatches,stay at home and see how it pans out.
Ive grown stacks of veg,have a fresh water supply and am surrounded by woods for miles which are full of deer and boar which are easy enough to nail.
My house can opperate off grid,solid fuel cooker and heating.

If I have to leave for whatever reason Ive got that covered too.
I have know intention of dying,my 5 year old son needs me...I will do whatever is required to ensure his well being.....WHATEVER IS REQUIRED.

I dont fear for myself one little bit.

[tracker]

yes, ive thought about hiding under their noses too. in the region of about 20-40 miles around army bases :p

i was more specifically looking for place names/areas though :p

i think that the lake district/new forest and the moors will be taken care of, because they know everyone will go to those places.

exactly !

now thats smart thinking .

:cool:

[tracker]

I have know intention of dying,my 5 year old son needs me...I will do whatever is required to ensure his well being.....WHATEVER IS REQUIRED.



This is why for parents it is so important to learn atleast some small bit of independance .

what ever it takes ! is a good repply .

:cool:

[bobbydiva]

I will get aquainted with actually having to kill my food, and no doubt turn veggie.

[clachan]

Question::.....Why are people thinking the army is going to be looking for them,I cant work this out.

If SHF the army will be in defensive mode,not out searching the country side for people.The army is not big enough to police the major cities,protect the wealthy and try to maintain order as well as hunt down peole who dont pose a threat.

Stop worrying about this....if they did want to find you they have the technology to do it with ease,believe me.
You cant hide from satalite or modern surveilence aircraft or apache....dont even try,you,re pissing against the wind.

Its not an issue imo.

[elixirsoo]

my initial plan is very much like clachan's. Batten down the hatches and maintain a very low profile. :)

[edible]

the shit NEVER hits the fan. Ive stopped assuming it will.

[loki]

the shit NEVER hits the fan. Ive stopped assuming it will.


:) apparently this theory has eluded most of our members here, even though its the most consistent

[analog]

got any ideas ?
got any knowledge ?
got any small supplies ?
do you know how to cope ---------if but for a while ?

exactly what is your plan ?

I see a lot of threads about this and that , these folks are bad threads , WTF threads , bad government threads , swine flu threads -------bla bla bla bla bla

but the real issue is

what are you gonna do ?

what plans and stratergies do you already have in place ?

let me here them so that I can put others to rest including my self .

If you dont have any but feel embarrased so much that you refuse to reply , dont worry the view count will show beside the thread to voice that for you .

how many of you actually believe all this stuff , because if you did you would be doing all you can to brace your self .

lets see .

tell me what you are doing about the future .

:cool:

I dont know, Im not sure if SHIT realy will hit the fan.

[mountain]

I thought the shit already hit the fan long ago... time to clean it up. I am gonna chill... :)

[spiral_out]

I would go out for another surf session. I live on the beach. :)

[free thinker]

Food aint a problem, not if you live in the countryside...;)

[tracker]

:) apparently this theory has eluded most of our members here, even though its the most consistent

well telling peoplehow to cope with bad times isbetter than the kidy rape threads , or complain about big brother threads , or all the other garbadge that seems to infest this site with its media worshiping .

I fail to see whypeople are so against it .

its a worse reaction one gets from sheeple .

and they are enoyingly ignorant at best .:)

[trix]

I'm working right now on sustainable living. Growing my own food and selling natural products to make a living. When SHTF and currency is not used anymore, I will have a good start for bartering.

And regardless, if nothing earth shattering happens, I will still be off their grid and consuming my own food, and not the GMO and processed crap they call food. Win win situation in my books.

[tracker]

I'm working right now on sustainable living. Growing my own food and selling natural products to make a living. When SHTF and currency is not used anymore, I will have a good start for bartering.

And regardless, if nothing earth shattering happens, I will still be off their grid and consuming my own food, and not the GMO and processed crap they call food. Win win situation in my books.


and thats the trix .

win win all round .:cool:

[joeman_0]

I do Zazen.

[madamlasher]

I plan to cause havoc and loot :p... meh if you can't beat em join em I say...

[tracker]

this reply is not aimed at any remarks made on this page above this post , it is just a general remark to those who say

survivalism is senseless
preparing is a waist of time .

since reality is a reflection of our inner self and mind , one has to understand that I do see that nature and the system is fragile .
I do see that life can turn around in one second , it is obviouse really .
but within all this supposed hype and fear mongerying is also my way of coping , thus
MY MIND can be reflected by
standing tall in the face of change
being ready for anything
preapred to mke that stand
unafraid .



those who say preparing is useless is a reflection of their own mind and reality where

there life is full of times they try to make something work or prepare but nothing works .
to them ----their life is useless and a waist of time.

its their reality , and is reflected in their posts here on this very thread .

and note how desperate they are to force this upon this thread / you and my self ,
they have the free will to leave , but refuse -----because like me ----where I wish to show people my mind and my way of coping , they too love to do the same in their way , of their hopelessness and uselessness .

Note I am unable to FORCE this thread upon them , yet they claim I do , at the same time they are ones forcing them self to stay , so that they can force their own hopelessness upon us .

be aware of that fact for the future and learn the truth .

:)

[spiral_out]

since reality is a reflection of our inner self and mind , one has to understand that I do see that nature and the system is fragile .
I do see that life can turn around in one second , it is obviouse really .
but within all this supposed hype and fear mongerying is also my way of coping , thus
MY MIND can be reflected by
standing tall in the face of change
being ready for anything
preapred to mke that stand
unafraid .


Agreed.

[spiral_out]

Also when SHTF, I'm going to first take a second and say, "No more work at my stupid job :D" And then I'm probably going to take cover.

[rydeon]

By the time TSHTF I'll be hopefully in a safe place watching the whole sorry world fall apart from up on high :)

[deathcultreject]

i know how i die and it is not when the shtf - so i will be surviving like i allways do - the new wolrd is coming and im gonna make my own eutopia lol

:)

I've seen my death and it's a long time from now.

Deep down, people know who to throw over the side of the lifeboat, and it's the ones who walk over everyone else who doesn't want the stress of dealing with them. This apathy is being replaced by something else now.

[capulet]

Hard to do or prepare for anything being a student living with parents. If i told them to stock up or buy some obscure items, they would only think i need to 'get out more' along with the usual sentiments :p

[elixirsoo]

this reply is not aimed at any remarks made on this page above this post , it is just a general remark to those who say

survivalism is senseless
preparing is a waist of time .

since reality is a reflection of our inner self and mind , one has to understand that I do see that nature and the system is fragile .
I do see that life can turn around in one second , it is obviouse really .
but within all this supposed hype and fear mongerying is also my way of coping , thus
MY MIND can be reflected by
standing tall in the face of change
being ready for anything
preapred to mke that stand
unafraid .



those who say preparing is useless is a reflection of their own mind and reality where

there life is full of times they try to make something work or prepare but nothing works .
to them ----their life is useless and a waist of time.

its their reality , and is reflected in their posts here on this very thread .

and note how desperate they are to force this upon this thread / you and my self ,
they have the free will to leave , but refuse -----because like me ----where I wish to show people my mind and my way of coping , they too love to do the same in their way , of their hopelessness and uselessness .

Note I am unable to FORCE this thread upon them , yet they claim I do , at the same time they are ones forcing them self to stay , so that they can force their own hopelessness upon us .

be aware of that fact for the future and learn the truth .

:)

Very profound tracker

[th3_d3lusi0nz]

Ive still got plenty to do where survival is concerned, im still trying to open my kids eyes, prepare them in a sense for the times ahead with a sense of courage, adventure more love n less fear. But when it does kick off we will be up in the hills too, become alot more human than we are now! It wont be easy and nobody really knows how or whats gonna happen, my main prioritie would be the kids...........im sure as more people wake up people will come together with various skills, pull together ( in my head anyway) discover real community spirit and love for your fellow human being, instead of suspision and judgement and petty differences. Im not looking at this from a doomed prospective and i never will..........What will be will be.:cool:

[th3_d3lusi0nz]

Ive still got plenty to do where survival is concerned, im still trying to open my kids eyes, prepare them in a sense for the times ahead with a sense of courage, adventure more love n less fear. But when it does kick off we will be up in the hills too, become alot more human than we are now! It wont be easy and nobody really knows how or whats gonna happen, my main prioritie would be the kids...........im sure as more people wake up people will come together with various skills, pull together ( in my head anyway) discover real community spirit and love for your fellow human being, instead of suspision and judgement and petty differences. Im not looking at this from a doomed prospective and i never will..........What will be will be.:cool:

It also depends on where u are in the world regarding how severe your strategies would have to become of course, im not one for hysteria caused by too much hype, just need to relearn the basics.

[tracker]

It also depends on where u are in the world regarding how severe your strategies would have to become of course, im not one for hysteria caused by too much hype, just need to relearn the basics.


yes thats a good remark . I did actually say this also on my other thread . I think its called "cities/towns and when the SHTF.

It speaks about how your survival knowledge etc depends on you location because some towns and cities have different currencies which affect the local economy , its all relevant at the end of the day because the economy dictates the running of that area .

Good thoughts the th3 ------- how the locals think also makes a difference too .

you are making great contributions to this thread , thank you for that .:)

Its good to see others say things too because you know the flack I get , criky every time I write folk start trolling my character lol. :rolleyes:

[rollotomaz1]

yes thats a good remark . I did actually say this also on my other thread . I think its called "cities/towns and when the SHTF.

It speaks about how your survival knowledge etc depends on you location because some towns and cities have different currencies which affect the local economy , its all relevant at the end of the day because the economy dictates the running of that area .

Good thoughts the th3 ------- how the locals think also makes a difference too .

you are making great contributions to this thread , thank you for that .:)

Its good to see others say things too because you know the flack I get , criky every time I write folk start trolling my character lol. :rolleyes:

Don't worry about it Trak, if those kinds of people were putting in as much time into their own plight as they do belittling anothers they would be gifted in the fact that what goes around comes around, and if it does happen, you can then say ITYSo.

[tracker]

Don't worry about it Trak, if those kinds of people were putting in as much time into their own plight as they do belittling anothers they would be gifted in the fact that what goes around comes around, and if it does happen, you can then say ITYSo.

its all a win win situation really as some one else has said before , because learning skills cant hurt , and if you dont use them , one can always teach children the old arts as they say .
heratage of what it is to be truly human -------living with nature and becoming one with mother earth .

:)

[ronisron]

First of all, I'm not going to panic -- there will be no room for that response at all.

It depends on what happens when the SHTF. How far it really flies. The survival instinct and desire to keep on keeping on is a strong one. Most people will look to band with other people and organize into small communities. The fear will pass, and our instinct to keep moving forward will take over. People will help each other through the crisis, and will help long term if this is a society altering turn. We'll all have a really big part to play in this.

[andyh]

First of all, I'm not going to panic -- there will be no room for that response at all.

It depends on what happens when the SHTF. How far it really flies. The survival instinct and desire to keep on keeping on is a strong one. Most people will look to band with other people and organize into small communities. The fear will pass, and our instinct to keep moving forward will take over. People will help each other through the crisis, and will help long term if this is a society altering turn. We'll all have a really big part to play in this.

I can see this working, probably quite well in parts of Canada. Doubt it'll work too well in the UK...perhaps parts of Scotland. If the shtf in the UK it'll be a rats den for 90% imho. Lets face it, in many places owned by chavs it already is.

[th3_d3lusi0nz]

yes thats a good remark . I did actually say this also on my other thread . I think its called "cities/towns and when the SHTF.

It speaks about how your survival knowledge etc depends on you location because some towns and cities have different currencies which affect the local economy , its all relevant at the end of the day because the economy dictates the running of that area .

Good thoughts the th3 ------- how the locals think also makes a difference too .

you are making great contributions to this thread , thank you for that .:)

Its good to see others say things too because you know the flack I get , criky every time I write folk start trolling my character lol. :rolleyes:

Some like to magnify irrelavence and stumble on their own logs in the process, thats the way it is when you think youve learnt all there is to learn, when infact we never stop.;)

[clachan]

the shit NEVER hits the fan. Ive stopped assuming it will.

LOL......tell that to the gypsys in nazi Germany,tell that to the people of New Orleans.
There is a list a mile long who all had the same idea as you.

One strong earth tremour in the UK and the infillstructure,s fooked,severed pipes carrying water,gas ect....electrical cables down,roads impassable.

Why not spend a bit of timel earning basics just in case ?...do a first aid course,the fact is people cant be bothered.

[trix]

First of all, I'm not going to panic -- there will be no room for that response at all.

It depends on what happens when the SHTF. How far it really flies. The survival instinct and desire to keep on keeping on is a strong one. Most people will look to band with other people and organize into small communities. The fear will pass, and our instinct to keep moving forward will take over. People will help each other through the crisis, and will help long term if this is a society altering turn. We'll all have a really big part to play in this.


We see civil unrest, disease, corruption, starvation occuring in countless places around the world. Western societies problem, and main flaw, is the thought that those things cannot happen to us. The internal corruption of our governing bodies, the plots against the citizens, no one thinks it can happen to us because we are more civilized than the countries afflicted with this stuff.

We live in a false sense of security, thinking our way of life is cemented and immovable. When things start to crumble, shock waves will ripple amongst the population.

To be prepared is not a waste of time. To get off the grid and live sustainably is not a waste of time. It should be more prevalent, because look where we are now. Relying on a system that does not work, and will crumble soon. We were systematically moved from self sufficiency into city centers, to be relient on the system.

What we must keep in mind is that this reality is not it. Our deaths on this plane do not mean we are done with being. We just go on to different levels of consciousness. We can't see what we are doing on earth as pointless, because it isn't. No steps in life are pointless. We must find some meaning in them and try to survive, because knowing the truth and still turning over to get butt reamed is not an option.

To give up is to admit that this life has not taught you anything. Even if stocking up food and warning family members does not amount to your survival in the long run, at least you tried. That is worth a lot in my books.

[holylucifer]

depends on what shit hits the fan!

hyperthetically?

world economy collapses and we get no money and no jobs , food rockets and we all default on our mortgages.

i have all tools and equiptment rdy, food for 1 yr with seeds stored for 3 yrs, ive learned survival from wild food and have learned to set traps for animals.

ive educated my family on what might come and to be calm and listen to me when the time comes.

pretty much what the builderburg meetings have said has come true. fuel/food cost rising, dollar collapsing followed by economic unrest worldwide.

so im confident we aint seen nothing yet.

this is hyperthetical after all aint it? ;)

The shit hits the fan around november-december this year.

Make sure you add colloidal silver to your list...it is the cure for everything in the eyes of god and not mans bad bacteria, anything viral, fungal, parasites, anything bad and will act as a second immune system.

[edible]

LOL......tell that to the gypsys in nazi Germany,tell that to the people of New Orleans.
There is a list a mile long who all had the same idea as you.

One strong earth tremour in the UK and the infillstructure,s fooked,severed pipes carrying water,gas ect....electrical cables down,roads impassable.

Why not spend a bit of timel earning basics just in case ?...do a first aid course,the fact is people cant be bothered.

ok, is that the shit hitting the fan??

severed pipes?

Absolutely learn the basics - i think one of the basics is believing the shit hits the fan. It either is all the time or it isn't happening at all. Live in the present - have faith - or live in fear ....


preparedness is a virtue, especially when its warranted

[tracker]

Live in the present - have faith - or live in fear ....


such phylosophy was preached to the good folk of New Orleans .
Fear you say ?

Sorry , I do apologise to you .
I had no idea you feared so much that even a subject about the art of being at one with nature was so threatening to you .

maybe you should try not waisting your time and others here and go find your self a good thread .

no one is makiing you stay here , why place you self on something you call a fear thread unless you wish to experience it ?
Look I did actually make a specialised thread just for folks like your self , its right up your street .

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90198

:)

[neutrino]

what the hell do you plan to do when the SHTF ?

Dance the lambada.

[tracker]

Dance the lambada.

Now that isnt a bad answer .

If for some reason i fealt that no matter what I could do --I would still die --------then maybe yes , better to spend the last few moments dancing , and why not , its better than going down screaming .

:)

[edible]

such phylosophy was preached to the good folk of New Orleans .
Fear you say ?

Sorry , I do apologise to you .
I had no idea you feared so much that even a subject about the art of being at one with nature was so threatening to you .

maybe you should try not waisting your time and others here and go find your self a good thread .

no one is makiing you stay here , why place you self on something you call a fear thread unless you wish to experience it ?

:)

I think you are attaching something to me that (although you are dying to attach it) doesn't belong to me. When you assume the need for preparation you need to prepare. When you live - you live prepared.

Living harmoniously :)

[edible]

And by the way - you talk about folks just like myself - because, I assume, you know me, and you talk about therpists all being 'the rapists' - still waiting for clarification on that one - you failed to answer me when I last asked the question.

[tracker]

I think you are attaching something to me that (although you are dying to attach it) doesn't belong to me. When you assume the need for preparation you need to prepare. When you live - you live prepared.

Living harmoniously :)

well maybe this faith , live in the present of live in fear -----phylosophy of yours is something I tend to resist with passion .
I dont like my chances cut down to some one elses ideas .

You "seem" to indicate that learning to be at one with nature which also means preperations ------------seems to be linked to living in fear .

Im sorry if thats how you see it , but thats how I read it .

if not ---then I simply have it wrong ---if Im right , -----------I see no -----------apparent attachments to you -------------just the truth ,

:cool:

[tracker]

And by the way - you talk about folks just like myself - because, I assume, you know me, and you talk about therpists all being 'the rapists' - still waiting for clarification on that one - you failed to answer me when I last asked the question.


why are you here edible ?

what is it that you are attempting to do here ?

are you here for preperation information ?
or are you giving info regarding how to help folks get some small piece of independance from the system and the hold that the PTB have over them ?

whats the score ?

:)

[edible]

well maybe this faith , live in the present of live in fear -----phylosophy of yours is something I tend to resist with passion .
I dont like my chances cut down to some one elses ideas .

You "seem" to indicate that learning to be at one with nature which also means preperations ------------seems to be linked to living in fear .

Im sorry if thats how you see it , but thats how I read it .

if not ---then I simply have it wrong ---if Im right , -----------I see no -----------apparent attachments to you -------------just the truth ,

:cool:

yeah you do have it slightly wrong

[tracker]

yeah you do have it slightly wrong

my hands up -----got it wrong .

we must let it go now .

I have more work to do so please excuse me am on utube at the mo getting info .

:)

[tracker]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3doWjRxpg3U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJg5LNsfuSM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Unl5MC7aDY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXI3cGhzle4&feature=related

:cool:

[edible]

why are you here edible ?

what is it that you are attempting to do here ?

are you here for preperation information ?
or are you giving info regarding how to help folks get some small piece of independance from the system and the hold that the PTB have over them ?

whats the score ?

:)

Im responding to the ideas in this thread, preparedness is a fluid thing. Who exactly are the powers that be (PTB)? Who has the power? And still waiting to hear your other answer - you know the one about all therapists...

[tracker]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muLlQ3aByBk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DsWej9HjMo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_Ztjcmyqb4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GrCHctYyWA&feature=related

:)

[tracker]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foJDJTwF_Jk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mux_-GlgmR8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrI9QBJvVOg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rDhW096Og8&feature=related

:)

[tracker]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzbmgVlFxjQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FGPMqVCNjc&feature=related

:)

[tracker]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-DrHvPjqUw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GukmDO89KI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akVL7QY0S8A&feature=related

:)

[tracker]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89793



:cool:

[uloodara]

What ever you people do-

DO NOT KILL YOURSELVES.

The world needs you. We need you. Freedom needs you.
So don't give up purpose.

As for me, I'm planning on doing the best I can. I'll be 20 in 2012 Dec. and I have a lot of young friends that can help me out. We are all against the injustices of the world and are well aware. The same way I feel a LOT! of young people are right now within the UK (and other places) - from my experience.

The best thing right now we can do is dream and envision. I have no idea what I'm going to do at the time, but it's going to be good. :cool:

Peace

[branjo]

I have started gathering a lot of dried foods, and have plans to use rainwater ran through a Berkey filter I will be buying this month. My gutter is broken so it pours like a tap into my garden so I figure the Berkey "black" filter should be enough as they are not (at least I hope they aren't) putting fluoride into the chemtrails. The filter can remove extremely small pathogens to an insane degree and 99.9% of all heavy metals so I think that is my water sorted. No point in having a lot of dry foods with nothing to hydrate them with lol.

I don't have any weapons though, aside from the smack you around the head kind. I hate the idea of guns though.

I am developing a "bug out" duffel bag at the moment and my main focus is medical supplies. Its virtually impossible to by penicillin here due to it being used to treat gun shot wounds and avoid hospital by criminals, so I am on the look out for basic antibiotics that are not penicillin based too as I can take it, but the wife is allergic to it.

I also know how to survive in a forest environment so I am looking for close forested places that in the event that the bug out becomes the logical choice I won't need to cross state lines. Because as you all know in the event of martial law, the streets and your vehicle basically become property of the government and there won't be many roads left to travel on that are not congested already with others bugging out.

Still I am also aware in the back of my mind about the law of attraction and if I prepare for a doomsday scenario then I must also take responsibility for drawing it to me, pretty bad dilemma to be in spiritually I think.

Still I just hope I am being a big worrier, and the end result will be people laughing at me saying ha ha you freaked out for nothing, and to tell you the truth, I could live with that....lol.

But all said and done when I used to go camping in my late teens and early 20's with the absolute bare essentials, I used to fecking love it. To me the ultimate feeling was sitting in the woods in the middle of nowhere with a camp fire, so secretly I am hoping I get to do that again with my family for that sense of nature. It is quite an extraordinary empowering feeling, I think its a close to freedom as you can get really.

Anyway, hope for the best and prepare for the worst. And if nothing happens and we all look stupid, at least we wont have to buy groceries for a while...lol.

[rollotomaz1]

I have started gathering a lot of dried foods, and have plans to use rainwater ran through a Berkey filter I will be buying this month. My gutter is broken so it pours like a tap into my garden so I figure the Berkey "black" filter should be enough as they are not (at least I hope they aren't) putting fluoride into the chemtrails. The filter can remove extremely small pathogens to an insane degree and 99.9% of all heavy metals so I think that is my water sorted. No point in having a lot of dry foods with nothing to hydrate them with lol.

I don't have any weapons though, aside from the smack you around the head kind. I hate the idea of guns though.

I am developing a "bug out" duffel bag at the moment and my main focus is medical supplies. Its virtually impossible to by penicillin here due to it being used to treat gun shot wounds and avoid hospital by criminals, so I am on the look out for basic antibiotics that are not penicillin based too as I can take it, but the wife is allergic to it.

I also know how to survive in a forest environment so I am looking for close forested places that in the event that the bug out becomes the logical choice I won't need to cross state lines. Because as you all know in the event of martial law, the streets and your vehicle basically become property of the government and there won't be many roads left to travel on that are not congested already with others bugging out.

Still I am also aware in the back of my mind about the law of attraction and if I prepare for a doomsday scenario then I must also take responsibility for drawing it to me, pretty bad dilemma to be in spiritually I think.

Still I just hope I am being a big worrier, and the end result will be people laughing at me saying ha ha you freaked out for nothing, and to tell you the truth, I could live with that....lol.

But all said and done when I used to go camping in my late teens and early 20's with the absolute bare essentials, I used to fecking love it. To me the ultimate feeling was sitting in the woods in the middle of nowhere with a camp fire, so secretly I am hoping I get to do that again with my family for that sense of nature. It is quite an extraordinary empowering feeling, I think its a close to freedom as you can get really.

Anyway, hope for the best and prepare for the worst. And if nothing happens and we all look stupid, at least we wont have to buy groceries for a while...lol.

Hey Branjo, a couple of tips for you to gain fresh water in the Uk, if you get a nice big handfull of sphanum moss and wring its neck you will be safe to drink it as long as you don't try to keep it for any length of time, then you don't need to carry it or boil it, if its frozen then there is likely to be ice or even snow around to boil up, Oh and always check for dead animals in a boggy area where your picking from.

For sure get yourself a weapon of some kind, traps are one way but if you came across a nasty ferile cat you will need to despatch it fair quickly otherwise you can get bad infections from those paw cutters, same goes for anything with claws, and the other resort is for dealing with hypo natives,

All JOKING ASIDE, its a real fool that wishes they had done something after its too late to do so, you would be much better of in a small trusted group who have all contributed to a paticular cause, and numbers means you can use the shared bodily warmth method which can saves lives,

We once came across an Austrailian guy on his own on Ben Nevis it was 1990, he was lost in the mist above the snow line wearing only a pair of shorts a tee shirt and sandles and was wandering around totally bemazed and was starting to take the rest of his cloths off, sounds funny but for those who know what he was suffering from will know what I'm saying here,
It was a full blow summers day in the glen, but half way up the snow line started and the area was still was quite hostile, near the summit it was actually below zero, however to cut a long story short, we took his tee shirt off and bunged him in a bag with the big fella amoungst us skin to skin and brought him back around, made him a nice warm brew and warmed him up nice and slowly.

The best place to be is safety in numbers, to a certain extent that is, I forgot at what number a group become otherwise, maybe tracker might know that on, what say you track ?.

there is no harm in DIB DIBBING, ;)

[th3_d3lusi0nz]

Dance the lambada.

We are all covered in shit anyway, its just how we go about cleanin it off.

Th3_d3l ;)

[rollotomaz1]

We are all covered in shit anyway, its just how we go about cleanin it off.

Th3_d3l ;)

Nice one th3_d3lusi0nz, we are covered in shite already, and it how we clean it off us, bloody well said mate/miss/mrs,

We are all responsible for this shite, everytime we buy shite we are encouraging the countries to make that shite and pollute, enslave and causing the problem,

How we clean up our act is not to keep buying this shite, give our money to people here that make things, buy local, shop local, if we all just say NO
unless its made in Britain.

[redman]

got any ideas ?
got any knowledge ?
got any small supplies ?
do you know how to cope ---------if but for a while ?

exactly what is your plan ?

I see a lot of threads about this and that , these folks are bad threads , WTF threads , bad government threads , swine flu threads -------bla bla bla bla bla

but the real issue is

what are you gonna do ?

what plans and stratergies do you already have in place ?

let me here them so that I can put others to rest including my self .

If you dont have any but feel embarrased so much that you refuse to reply , dont worry the view count will show beside the thread to voice that for you .

how many of you actually believe all this stuff , because if you did you would be doing all you can to brace your self .

lets see .

tell me what you are doing about the future .

:cool:



Die fighting.

[redman]

Nice one th3_d3lusi0nz, we are covered in shite already, and it how we clean it off us, bloody well said mate/miss/mrs,

We are all responsible for this shite, everytime we buy shite we are encouraging the countries to make that shite and pollute, enslave and causing the problem,

How we clean up our act is not to keep buying this shite, give our money to people here that make things, buy local, shop local, if we all just say NO
unless its made in Britain.




And what the fuck has it being made in Britain got to do with anything ? Take a look around, there ain't that much stuff getting made here anymore, and there is a fair share of slave labour going on in the UK too.

[clachan]

One thing i would like to add to this thread is that learning survival skills should be fun,not done out of fear but rather with a sense of satisfaction knowing that you have more strings to your bow and are becoming a fuller human being.

Water purification......chlorine and sunlight,job done.

[octopusrex]

:DDo?

Smoke weed.
Eat Shrooms.

That's about it.

[clachan]

:DDo?

Smoke weed.
Eat Shrooms.

That's about it.

And then picture yorself on a boat by the river with tangarine trees and marmalade sky,s.
Somebody calls you,you answer quite slowly...its the girl with coliderscope eyes.

Then a gang of skinheads comes along speeding out of their boxes and beats the shit out of you:D

[rollotomaz1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geHLdg_VNww :D

[spiraltrance]

With any luck if and when the SHTF i'll be sat in the swiss alps

http://www.wallpapers-box.com/nature-wallpapers/landscape/mountain-grass.jpg

http://nimis540.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/swiss_alps1.jpg http://www.thetravelpeach.com/europe-vacations/switzerland/swiss-alps.jpg

http://www.rlrouse.com/pic-of-the-day/swiss-alps.jpg

[marc_o]

I think in the moment you probably won't do that. We are human, and the instinct to survive will overcome any conplacency you have now. I don't fear death, but I'm certainly going to fight for my life.

Just think, you're probably not going to die a quick death, it will be shitty and slow. You're not going to be able to make it a peaceful and poignant moment. It will be agonising and desperate. Starving people will be trying to break into your house and rob you, or the police will come a knockin to vaccinate you or take you away, and it wont be pretty.

I hate to be doom and gloom, but if a pandemic hits, a depression occurs, or any of the other shit goes down, unless you've prepared your fucked.

If you havn't eaten for a week, you will go in search of food, you wont sit there and think, Oh its my time now, I'll just sit here and die. You'll go and brave it in the roadblocked city/town and find some food.

Not that I'm telling you how you will react, well I kind of am. Just my opinion.

Edit: I was replying to a chap or chappess earlier who said they would do nothing when the time comes.

I am gonna stay put with my supplies, and help my neighbours, family and friends the best I can. Theres loads of elderly people on my street, they are going to be fucked if someone doesnt go and help them. I wouldnt be able to knowingly have my neighbours dying in the houses around me.

[elixirsoo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geHLdg_VNww :D
Wow time warp! They look so young!

I recently watched this:
"Iron Maiden: Flight 666" A chronological account of the heavy metal band Iron Maiden's 2008 world tour through India, Australia, Japan, USA, Canada, Mexico and South America in a jet piloted by the band's front man, Bruce Dickinson.
They are as good live today as they were at Donington in '88. :cool:

[tracker]

I hate to be doom and gloom, but if a pandemic hits, a depression occurs, or any of the other shit goes down, unless you've prepared your fucked.

If you havn't eaten for a week, you will go in search of food, you wont sit there and think, Oh its my time now, I'll just sit here and die. You'll go and brave it in the roadblocked city/town and find some food.

Not that I'm telling you how you will react, well I kind of am. Just my opinion.

Edit: I was replying to a chap or chappess earlier who said they would do nothing when the time comes.


never trust those who say there is no need to prepare ! :cool:

Im sure you know why too .

because as you said , when faced with starvation , they will brave those road blocks and venture out .
those faced with starvation will act out of desperacy , whilst those who are not hungry will be more reserved , thus the starving man isnt afraid of maybe hurting someone for food , the prepared man is in danger because he has nothing to hurt folk for .
thats why people have to wake up .

people dont act when people are being mass murdered/gassed/shot/etc etc -------but when they are hungry ????????????

they will kill for that !because they couldnt be bothered to prepare because they want an easy life .
its easier to hurt some one and take their food than it is to learn survival skills in their mind . hence they always refuse to learn -----because according to them -------its all too much , a waist of time .
so why would they waist their time learning how to grow or survive ?



just the facts .:cool:

[spitalwings]

Depends on what way IT hits. I'm not prepared at all. I might become a hobo.

[darkman]

i started plannig years ago not just for when there n.w.o comes in to play but just for the fact i will and can survive without there t.v.ther big supermarkets and there papers and other nonsense i switched off from it all and now dont notice eny of it and just do my work grow my food and live virtually free of it all enyway you can all do this , and when the shtf you wont even notice as you wont see it ,

[rollotomaz1]

Depends on what way IT hits. I'm not prepared at all. I might become a hobo.

If history has anything to go by, a travelling hobo was meals on legs during the winter in 1940's war torn Lenningrad, best to stay in doors with your stores hey Tracker ;)

[rollotomaz1]

I am gonna stay put with my supplies, and help my neighbours, family and friends the best I can. Theres loads of elderly people on my street, they are going to be fucked if someone doesnt go and help them. I wouldnt be able to knowingly have my neighbours dying in the houses around me.

You sound like a decent fellow, and have the right idea for sure, live together with like minded people in a smaller community and protect yourselves, for the full package check out Tracker recommendations and you should survive a posssible bad lands era.

[tracker]

If history has anything to go by, a travelling hobo was meals on legs during the winter in 1940's war torn Lenningrad, best to stay in doors with your stores hey Tracker ;)

could always put that odd annoying work mate or pall on the menu .:cool:

or

one could always dish up small steaks and tell the family what a good old boy shep was and has gone to a good course ooops home .:D

[rollotomaz1]

could always put that odd annoying work mate or pall on the menu .:cool:

or

one could always dish up small steaks and tell the family what a good old boy shep was and has gone to a good course ooops home .:D

Make sure to feed him up first, nice bit of scratchings is great and goes well with the rest, :D

[rollotomaz1]

Here is the single best film on the subject of eating manos, a real life stiuation and one that could confront us all one day, from the horses mouth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt0_dqWZ3A0

[th3_d3lusi0nz]

And then picture yorself on a boat by the river with tangarine trees and marmalade sky,s.
Somebody calls you,you answer quite slowly...its the girl with coliderscope eyes.

Then a gang of skinheads comes along speeding out of their boxes and beats the shit out of you:D

Its a wonderful life

[th3_d3lusi0nz]

I think in the moment you probably won't do that. We are human, and the instinct to survive will overcome any conplacency you have now. I don't fear death, but I'm certainly going to fight for my life.

Just think, you're probably not going to die a quick death, it will be shitty and slow. You're not going to be able to make it a peaceful and poignant moment. It will be agonising and desperate. Starving people will be trying to break into your house and rob you, or the police will come a knockin to vaccinate you or take you away, and it wont be pretty.

I hate to be doom and gloom, but if a pandemic hits, a depression occurs, or any of the other shit goes down, unless you've prepared your fucked.

If you havn't eaten for a week, you will go in search of food, you wont sit there and think, Oh its my time now, I'll just sit here and die. You'll go and brave it in the roadblocked city/town and find some food.

Not that I'm telling you how you will react, well I kind of am. Just my opinion.

Edit: I was replying to a chap or chappess earlier who said they would do nothing when the time comes.

I am gonna stay put with my supplies, and help my neighbours, family and friends the best I can. Theres loads of elderly people on my street, they are going to be fucked if someone doesnt go and help them. I wouldnt be able to knowingly have my neighbours dying in the houses around me.

A well rounded answer from what im sure is a well rounded person, my main behaviour would be help and co-operation with other humans that wont want to act like animals but help one another as much as possible.....like humanbeings.

Love n courage D3l

[th3_d3lusi0nz]

Start your own soup kitchen, everyone should! Grow veg, STOP goin to tescos, asda, Iceland, Lidls!, those lovely folk makin it Too easy for ya;) I sometimes want to go out in the street with a mega phone and say hurry up n help eachother instead of watching friggin Eastenders or some other mind numbing crap (which wont help u survive), stop pickin holes n try n become who we were always meant to be. Help people get over their fears and short comings, build em up, help instead of hinder. Theres alot of heros out there waiting for their time.

Love n Courage D3l x

[clachan]

Its a wonderful life

Indeedy do !

[elixirsoo]

Here is the single best film on the subject of eating manos, a real life stiuation and one that could confront us all one day, from the horses mouth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt0_dqWZ3A0

Thank you for posting this rollotomaz1, it is one of the most moving videos I have ever watched. I remember when this happened and all the media frenzy at that time. The deep love and respect these men have for their dead friends is beyond doubt. It makes me feel humble.

[branjo]

A well rounded answer from what im sure is a well rounded person, my main behaviour would be help and co-operation with other humans that wont want to act like animals but help one another as much as possible.....like humanbeings.

Love n courage D3l

That's a very important point, by assuming everyone will be breaking into your house to steal your tins of beans just makes us preemptively greedy minded.

I would like to think the people of my neighborhood would use the opportunity to get to know one another instead of shooting anyone who comes near the door.

Maybe develop a neighborhood watch and a community garden, and maybe we can all coexist and collectively just shoot all the tax collectors instead :D

[gordysmit]

Dont know if this as been said before? Go back home to see my maker "home" I meen die I dont care as every think happens for a reason

[rollotomaz1]

Start your own soup kitchen, everyone should! Grow veg, STOP goin to tescos, asda, Iceland, Lidls!, those lovely folk makin it Too easy for ya;) I sometimes want to go out in the street with a mega phone and say hurry up n help eachother instead of watching friggin Eastenders or some other mind numbing crap (which wont help u survive), stop pickin holes n try n become who we were always meant to be. Help people get over their fears and short comings, build em up, help instead of hinder. Theres alot of heros out there waiting for their time.

Love n Courage D3l x

I will second the part about not going to the supermarkets, we always use local small shops, our TV is off most of the time and is going for good as soon as everything goes digital, which isn't very long now,

One thing I have been doing for years now is working with as many of the neighbours as possible, I don't think there is a car in the small square here that I haven't fixed in one way or another over the years, cam belts, brakes etc, etc, and have taught all my skills to as many people who wants to know, this is how we will survive in the future, but we are still well armed and look forward to the day when we don't need to be ;)

[holylucifer]

What ever you people do-

DO NOT KILL YOURSELVES.

The world needs you. We need you. Freedom needs you.
So don't give up purpose.

As for me, I'm planning on doing the best I can. I'll be 20 in 2012 Dec. and I have a lot of young friends that can help me out. We are all against the injustices of the world and are well aware. The same way I feel a LOT! of young people are right now within the UK (and other places) - from my experience.

The best thing right now we can do is dream and envision. I have no idea what I'm going to do at the time, but it's going to be good. :cool:

Peace

Whats going to happen on 21 dec 2012 is that god's laws and the ark of the covenant and the seed of it all, will be hit very hard... the queen will step down, the u.n will fall, nato etc and 'useful idiots' moved out of their seats.

Then around march 17-19th 2013 the stone of destiny will be known.

And the planet will turn clockwise.

Deals strongly with this http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:YbI4apVa-e4J:100777.com/node/438+the+secret+covenant&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk .

We will focus their attention toward money and material goods so they many never connect with their inner self. We will distract them with fornication, external pleasures and games so they may never be one with the oneness of it all.

To understand that http://100777.com/spiritual/beings_having_a_physical_experience