Movies Designed to Traumatize Our Kids

[biblegirl]

I recently had a discussion with a forum member on how children's movies (disney in particular) are designed to traumatize children and evoke terror and fear. The music and imagery used can be very scary at times. I remember as a child being scared out of my mind at the scene in Sleeping Beauty when the queen changes into a dragon and chases the prince. When the villagers chase the beast in Beauty and the Beast, and Gaston chases and kills him. The Lion King also had some very dark parts that upset me, even though I was 12: the Uncle murdering the father then trying to kill the son the same way. These are just a few examples of images that disturbed me and haunted me for long after I watched the movies. I have a friend who had a fainting problem for a few months, and she said she always knew when she was about to faint because she could hear the song that the witch sang in the Little Mermaid playing in her mind, and she could still hear it when she came to after the fainting spell (she was in her 20s at the time, long after she watched that movie). These are all children's movies, rated G, marketed to children.

I just saw this image on the cover of a Finding Nemo DVD and it is horrible. A good example of how the imagery affects our children who watch the horror scenes:
http://i12.tinypic.com/66csq6w.jpg

Honestly that makes me want to cry, because I have watched innocent children with faces just as terrified as the picture, while these scenes play on the screen in front of them. Something is very wrong with this.

[mountain]

Fantasia has some creepy ghoul type creatures in it...

[brainstormed]

Of course, Disney has been part of the agenda for a loooooong time.

One such story that comes to mind is a story called "The Little House." It's a sweet little book written in 1942 by Virginia Lee Burton. It told the story about a little house on a hill that gradually gets taken over by streets, cars, then buildings, then skyscrapers. It humanizes the little house and helps children to see how industrialization and commercialization ruins communities. Given the time it was written, it provides us a forewarning of what was to come. It's a sweetly told, gentle story.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Little_House

Now DISNEY took this book in 1952, and IMHO raped it into an animated short. Forgive my language, but if you read the book- then see this short, you will see how Disney sought to terrorize the kids. Terrible.

Here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y881yjtFluQ

[nioz]

not only do they insert fear into the minds of our kids.

They also condition them and try to sexualize the young generations.

Subliminal and direct.

[gripit]

In just about every Disney movie, one parent or both parents die leaving an orphan.

This is a "no Mom" list...

Brother Bear - someone threw a firey stick and she fell in water and died (horrific death-hunter kills her)

Cinderella mom has died before Scene One

Snow White mom has died before Scene One

Bambi (horrific death) shot dead and left behind in the woods

Bambi II dead mother, raised by father

Mama Dumbo (horrific death) locked in a cage and taken away from him forever

Pinocchio - motherless with only Geppeto

Sleeping Beauty raised by three inept aunts

The Sword in the Stone father, but no mother

Jungle Book - young Mowgli his surrogate caregivers are father

Little Mermaid - Ariel only has father, King Triton

Beauty and the Beast only has a father

Aladdin Jasmine only has a father, the king (mother captured by bandits and presumed dead, forcing Aladdin to fend for himself)

Chronicles of Narnia - no mother

The Goofy Movie - Max and Goofy are motherless

(Max’s heartthrob, the Girl Next Door, has only a father)

Pocahontas - No mother. One mumbled reference to “when your dear mother died.”

The Wild - no mother

The Lion King - No mother. Where are all the “Mom visions” like those Simba has of his deceased lion father up in the sky?

Chicken Little - Dead mother

Hunchback of Notre Dame - Mom was killed before Scene One

Atlantis: The Lost Empire mom is assimilated (dead)

Lilo and Stich - mother dies in car crash

Peter Pan - orphaned

The Fox & The Hound - mother is killed by hunters

Herbie: Fully Loaded - no mother

The Rescuers - absent mother

The Great Mouse Detective - no mother

Enchanted - mother is dead

Tarzan - no mother

and Pixar Animation:

Nemo (horrfic death) eaten by a huge barracuda in front of husband

[gripit]

Monsters Inc.

The plot of the movie is that the Monsters access a dimensional door to childrens' bedrooms throughout the world and harvest their screams for energy by frightening the living daylights out of them! Now why does that sound familiar? :eek:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=297&pictureid=3038

main bad guy is a shape shifting chameleon. :eek:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=297&pictureid=3039
That's the 'scream factory' change room.

Note the all seeing eye above the 'o' here as well :eek:

http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/8767/monsterfactoryhdrk.gif (http://img391.imageshack.us/my.php?image=monsterfactoryhdrk.gif)

Baddie James Waternoose holding a canister of energy harvested from scaring the living bejesus out of little children! :eek:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=297&pictureid=3040

Children weren't being scared as easily, so they had an energy crisis. Here is a clip of several scenes about Randall's shock treatment machine, which they were going to use on children to solve the energy crisis!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwp_sO-E3aI

[biblegirl]

great posts gripit, that's so true about the single parent/orphan thing, i never even realized that!

[saab1981]

I totally agree with what has been said in relation to Disney films. Murder and isolation seem to be a very common theme. The impact this has on a young mind is very disturbing. I personally come away from watching these films with a total feeling of despair, confusion and hopelessness.
My 3 year old has always slept well, but since she has seen certain TV shows and films, she has had a large increase in night terrors, purely as a result of what she has seen on screen. I do as much to prevent exposure to images of this nature, but there's only so much you can do I guess.

Peace out.

[metacomet]

Great thread and the title is straight to the matter, yes movies are traumatic for kids especially considering how bright the lights are and how vivid the imagery is, even the dark imagery. Images of glowing red eyes and smiling fangs etc. are very common and we've all been exposed to them countless times watching 'kid movies'. At risk of sounding like an arm-chair psychiatrist what if young children are undergoing mild shock and trauma from seeing demonic 'bad guys', dark imagery or violence.


If you notice the 'bad guy' in every child action / adventure movie is seemingly innocent / clumsy but about half way through he will always do or say something extremely evil. And then the movie goes back to trying to be fun and fantastic for the kid, burying the dark imagery they've just been exposed to in their subconscious memory, in a natural effort to carry on enjoying their movie despite having their psyche abused.

Alot of the time the violence in children movies is veiled or covered up to maintain ratings of 'mild violence' etc. Regardless, when a person is killed on a childrens tv show even if they do cover it up well and keep it from looking graphic or violent, the mind of the child witnesses murder and recognizes it.

I've watched all the standard action and ninja cartoons as a kid, I always loved cartoon violence! But as an adult I do realize how intense it is for kids to be exposed to fighting and murder so often and I remember as a kid me and my friends being so desensitized to murder that we talked about it often or imitated it while playing! This was enough to upset our teacher but I can explain that story some other time.

[sithnemesis]

Gummy Bear Song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=astISOttCQ0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=astISOttCQ0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=astISOttCQ0)

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[pureheart]

I think Annistasia is a particularly horrible Disney film.

[sithnemesis]

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[sithnemesis]

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[sithnemesis]

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[sithnemesis]

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[sithnemesis]

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[sithnemesis]

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[sithnemesis]

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[sithnemesis]

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[brainstormed]

Nickelodeon's new show, The Troop

The Troop tells the story of an average teen who becomes a member of a secret society that protects the world from paranormal beings.

http://www.twistmagazine.com/upload/2009/09/The%20Troop.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qyfs4YLcWY

Predictive Programming.

[metacomet]

I think Annistasia is a particularly horrible Disney film.

Yeah it's very disturbing how they made Rasputin ...

http://www.awn.com/mag/issue2.8/2.8images/DeneroffAnastasia02.JPG

The only real term for what Disney did with Anastasia is 'historical assasination' - they completely brainwashed kids (and alot of uneducated adults) by making Rasputin look the way he did.

Historically Rasputin was not a perfect guy but he had divine powers which protected him against political assassination... I guess that's all it took to make him a target for historical attacks...

[sithnemesis]

Yeah it's very disturbing how they made Rasputin ...

http://www.awn.com/mag/issue2.8/2.8images/DeneroffAnastasia02.JPG

The only real term for what Disney did with Anastasia is 'historical assasination' - they completely brainwashed kids (and alot of uneducated adults) by making Rasputin look the way he did.

Historically Rasputin was not a perfect guy but he had divine powers which protected him against political assassination... I guess that's all it took to make him a target for historical attacks...

I agree Rasputin was inaccurately portayed as an evil wizzard... which is pure Hollywood fairy tale bullshit :)

BTW Anastasia was a non-Disney production... it was from Fox Animation Studios
http://kalafudra.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/anastasia.jpg http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005UW9T.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

[sithnemesis]

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[metacomet]

http://lucasfilmfestival.de/bilder-archiv/sonderreihe-small/monster-ag-c-walt-disney-studios.jpg

In the movie Monsters from Disney,

one of the monsters walks in on a training simulation (where they test their scaring techniques on a dummy) and is told to do a scare on the training dummy. He doesn't want to, and he doesn't know that the little girl is hiding somewhere nearby watching, but after they tell him for a third time he does a serious roar/scream (much scarier then your average lion/monster roar).

Up until this point in the movie, the little girl absolutely trusts the monster and doesn't show any fear of him. But when she sees him roar, she gets scared and suddenly realizes he's a monster.

There is something about the scene that made it feel like they build the trust of all the children watching the movie... and then they make the monster character, who is supposed to be a good guy, look really scary... it just seemed like a nasty trick and I can think of alot of childrens movies which encourage us to place our trust in the 'good guy' only to shatter out trust in him later.

This is a similar ritual which is played out on adults in our political scene by creating heros (like the president of the U.S.) and over the years deflating our trust in them, or even violently revealing them to be monsters. It's a form of psychological abuse, really.

[monitorlizard]

I think the new modern CGI films seem to be the worst culprits.

I grew up reading books and in general the imagination can be far
scarier than anything you can screen :eek:

Scary stuff is part of growing up, it teaches some valuable lessons,
as long as the imagery is not excessive.

I'm not saying censor everything too destruction, but I've noticed over
the past 20 years, a younger audience is getting exposed to a far greater
level of gore/violence as they drop the age limits to cinematic releases.

Seems that most films that used to carry a 15 certificate in the UK have
been dropped to 12. 18 certificates have been dropped to 15.

It getting to the point if you want to see an 18 certificate film, it's like....
"errmmm.... is there one?". If you manged to find one at your local cinema
it's just excessive violence and gore/torture in the extreme.

A small list of some films. The LSD in the Chocolate Factory is a classic ;)

http://www.babble.com/content/articles/columns/the-babble-list/26-Most-Disturbing-Kids-Movies-Ever-Family-films-that-will-scar-your-children-for-life/index5.aspx

[biblegirl]

Thanks monitorlizard, that link is brilliant and exactly what i was hoping to bring to light with this thread.

In all, he reviews 26 traumatizing movies, which i mostly agree with...though some of them i did not recognize and they looked so grisly i probably was not allowed to watch them as a child (phew)!

Here is what he wrote on "Old Yeller", which has a sort of satiric writing style, but still illustrates the point:

Now on to the matter at hand. Shooting a dog is, yes, traumatizing but let's break down what is so emotionally scarring about this particular dog-shooting. From the death of Old Yeller we learn three things:

1. New friends will always turn on you.
2. If you ever open your heart to love something it will contract rabies and try to kill you.
3. Shooting Old Yeller represents Travis's metaphorical entrance into manhood. This means that before any boy can become a man he must shoot his dog in the face.http://www.babble.com/content/articles/columns/the-babble-list/26-Most-Disturbing-Kids-Movies-Ever-Family-films-that-will-scar-your-children-for-life/index4.aspx

Yes that is the kind of crap we are programmed to think is a loving safe family "classic". Hmm.

this is so true about ET:

http://www.babble.com/content/articles/columns/the-babble-list/26-Most-Disturbing-Kids-Movies-Ever-Family-films-that-will-scar-your-children-for-life/images/et.jpg

Every good kid's movie has a scary element. Frights are the hooks that burrow a film into your young mind and make a childhood viewing unforgettable. Most movies build the fear factor into the cinematic heavy, but Steven Spielberg made his good guy the most terrifying thing you could imagine. A generation of children learned that aliens can be friendly once you get past all the ear splitting shrieking and the fact they look like lions after being dipped in lava and having their head flattened with a lead pipe. That screeching little alien tap-danced his way into our hearts and wallets. It's hard to find a grown-up who doesn't have fond memories of E.T. and also remember it scaring the crap out of them.

i had countless nightmares from the Wizard of Oz:

http://www.babble.com/content/articles/columns/the-babble-list/26-Most-Disturbing-Kids-Movies-Ever-Family-films-that-will-scar-your-children-for-life/images/wizardofoz.jpg

umm...i have never seen this one before but....what the crap??!!

19. The Dark Crystal

Muppets make it to the list again. That Jim Henson, God bless his soul, was one dark dude. Riding high on the success of The Muppet Show, Jim took his Hollywood leverage and made this doozy for the kiddies. Miss Piggy- and Gonzo-loving kids and parents must have thought this J.R.R. Tolkien-like epic would be an adorable Kermit-dressed-as-a-Hobbit romp. What they got were the Skeksis, lizard bird creatures that ate other Muppets and shrieked in such a way, I still can't get it out of my head. Then there’s the Crypt Keeper-looking Muppet who takes her eyeballs out and throws them at people. Oh, and those gigantic beetle things with their skin-crawling chattering — always with the chattering.

http://www.babble.com/content/articles/columns/the-babble-list/26-Most-Disturbing-Kids-Movies-Ever-Family-films-that-will-scar-your-children-for-life/index2_clip_image006.jpg
And then there’s this:
http://www.babble.com/content/articles/columns/the-babble-list/26-Most-Disturbing-Kids-Movies-Ever-Family-films-that-will-scar-your-children-for-life/index2_clip_image008.jpg
And that's supposed to be cute.

This movie proves one thing; Jim Henson had a love-hate relationship with children. One moment he wants to soothe them with the clickity-clack of a tap dancing frog, the next he wants them laying in a cold sweat for yet another sleepless night.


I did not see the remakes of the Narnia movies, but I had watched the original movies as a child, and the word "disturbing" does not do it justice....

26. The Chronicles of Narnia
...

There are plenty of reasons The Chronicles of Narnia might scare a kid. Creepy English children, goat men, ham-fistedly overt Christian themes. But the big one, the one that takes this over the top, is violence rendered upon animals. Kids can not stand to watch animals get hurt. They could watch human beings getting plowed down all day long, but you give one beagle a charley horse and here comes the waterworks. The world of Narnia is a talking animal realm, and those chatty beavers and wolves have no qualms stabbing each other like it's a prison shower.

Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, good grief the tunnel scene was one of the darkest things I ever witnessed in a children's movie:

25. Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory

No, I don’t mean the recent 2005 version, although that is plenty scary. Johnny Depp's unflinching commitment to portraying Michael Jackson should alone be enough to grant a house call from CPS to any parent who dragged their kid to that one. No, I’m talking about the original. Look past the singing dwarves with jaundice and the constant child maulings; the fear factor in this one boils down to one scene. And you all know which scene I’m talking about.

The tunnel scene of this movie is the single most frightening sequence in all of '70s cinema. And we're talking about a decade that brought us The Exorcist and Alien. Gene Wilder is simply brilliant in this subversive kiddie classic. One look at him and there is no way you're believing this movie really is for children. Let me ask you, if Gene Wilder's Willy Wonka rang your doorbell, would you let him in? Didn't think so. He's the pusherman, baby. A totally Technicolor, sociopathic pimp. In one master stroke, this film says, "Hey kids, this is what dropping acid is like. The first time's free. Enjoy the '70s!"

LOL at the reviews! but also...:mad:.

[metacomet]

Great post biblegirl,

Hmm I totally forgot about the Willy Wonka tunnel scene. That really was bad. Images of it are planted deep in our subconscious from viewing it.

How many of us remember the black snake slithering in and around a woman's mouth? Countless millions of us probably have that image tucked away deep ... and even though that part of the scene flashed in less than a second, it stuck.

[biblegirl]

This is a similar ritual which is played out on adults in our political scene by creating heros (like the president of the U.S.) and over the years deflating our trust in them, or even violently revealing them to be monsters. It's a form of psychological abuse, really.

that's a really good point MC, i am reminded of the recent staged alien invasions at the schools, where not only the teachers but the police lie to the students, yet they are supposed to in positions of trust

[metacomet]

that's a really good point MC, i am reminded of the recent staged alien invasions at the schools, where not only the teachers but the police lie to the students, yet they are supposed to in positions of trust

lol! I remember that. And to think so many of the adults involved thought it was no big deal... they thought it would be 'neat' for the kids (which could be true) but didn't want to admit that they frightened so many.

Yeah the abuse of trust is a big one in kid's movies. As children we're supposed to trust adults to protect us or listen to us but in alot of kid's movies, if the 'bad guy' is coming after the kid in secret, whether it's a monster under the bed or a bully picking on the kid at school, the film makes a point to make sure that the parent or adult is snarky or disbelieving towards the child...

"I'm sure it's nothing..."

"I'm really busy right now let's talk about this later..."

"Oh, (name of kid), it's always something with you..."

Then the kid dutifully turns around with a dejected look on their face, hanging their head.

Moral of these scenes? Do not trust your parents or other adults to help you if something is done to you or you see something scary. They will not believe you and/or are too busy to care.

I'm sure any parent knows this is not true. But when your kid sees a dozen movies teaching them otherwise, you have to know to tell them specifically that the movies are lying to them, otherwise they will believe what they've seen.

[mountain]

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[biblegirl]

evil bibedal reptilian creature scaring the crap out of other animals

http://www.tncp.net/Portals/21/2009/iceage3poster.JPG

http://www.thefilmchair.com/images/tfc/ice-age-dawn-of-the-dinosaurs.jpg

[brainstormed]

lalalala...

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[metacomet]

UGH DISNEY!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRX_LnZ586Q

They are going too far with this new one...

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_-snzLnJL_24/Srsc7kx40nI/AAAAAAAABv8/KOdp5dpscX4/s400/princess-and-the-frog-promotional+dr+facilier+mural.jpg

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This is outright demonic, black magic inspired BS that kids should NOT be seeing.

I am really disturbed.

[velma]

Hell's bells! This thread is scaring me... the kids must be having nightmares!

Practically every children's movie or cartoon series has someone evil in it who wants to take over or destroy the world.

Ain't that the truth? :rolleyes:

[coco]

Thanks for putting that list together Gripit. I honestly never thought it but you're right, so many cartoon movie 'heroes' have lost their mother or both parents. Perhaps the point is to provide impetus to the main character but in such an awful way.

[biblegirl]

UGH DISNEY!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRX_LnZ586Q


horrendous....creating a likable bad guy to further confuse young minds

the sorcery, drawings on the floor, skulls and bones on the hat...the list is kind of endless on how wrong this new character is, and this film is centered on releasing for the holiday season

[wonderbread]

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Ben 10 is one of the most blatant shows i ever saw. The stuff that goes on and the things they talk about is way over the heads of kids.

From the shape-shifting to the alien races and technology, I think there is a long running fued amongst alien purebreds and non royalty.

I think some of the episodes of Ben 10 need to be examined more

[metacomet]

Yes Ben 10 is pretty strange in that they picture the kid next to these other figures but ... the kid is those figures, he shape shifts into them!

Multiple personality symbolism maybe?

By having him next to his other forms it causes a dissociative perspective and can easily confuse a child's mind.

[coco]

Yes Ben 10 is pretty strange in that they picture the kid next to these other figures but ... the kid is those figures, he shape shifts into them!

Multiple personality symbolism maybe?

By having him next to his other forms it causes a dissociative perspective and can easily confuse a child's mind.

Thanks for explaining that. I didn't know what Ben10 was. My nieces and nephews are grown out of all that stuff now and their kids are very young - the oldest is 5 or 6 now and I don't know what 'kid' shows or cartoons are on anymore.

[metacomet]

Thanks for explaining that. I didn't know what Ben10 was. My nieces and nephews are grown out of all that stuff now and their kids are very young - the oldest is 5 or 6 now and I don't know what 'kid' shows or cartoons are on anymore.

Having a 6 year old little brother has it's perks :p I also teach small kids occasionally 5-12 and they know everything about all shows and I will overhear it quite often.

I remember being into Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and I am sure to the older generations that seemed ... strange.

There is just something about 'Children's Programming' that allows it to take advantage of such wildly fantasy based and bizarre content ...

Case in point,from this thread: (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=81531&highlight=Conan+Cartoon) The depictions of reptilians in this is beyond anything suitable for children, the Conan books are violent, sexual, and go into really intricate pre-history civilization theories along with bizarre and dark, satanic villains who practice black magic... The fact that they stuck to the reptilian shapeshifting story and it's transition into 'Conan the Cartoon Show For Your Kids To Innocently Watch' ... 'spicious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYbU7CvDzMo

[armoured_amazon]

UGH DISNEY!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRX_LnZ586Q

They are going too far with this new one...

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_-snzLnJL_24/Srsc7kx40nI/AAAAAAAABv8/KOdp5dpscX4/s400/princess-and-the-frog-promotional+dr+facilier+mural.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_-snzLnJL_24/Srsc8MwJ2rI/AAAAAAAABwE/IBuLEDMJGP0/s400/Princess+and+frog+Intl+Poster.jpg


This is outright demonic, black magic inspired BS that kids should NOT be seeing.

I am really disturbed.

I see Disney's living up to its usual stereotypes.

http://www.cracked.com/article_15677_9-most-racist-disney-characters.html

[shellygurrrl]

In just about every Disney movie, one parent or both parents die leaving an orphan.

This is a "no Mom" list...

Brother Bear - someone threw a firey stick and she fell in water and died (horrific death-hunter kills her)

Cinderella mom has died before Scene One

Snow White mom has died before Scene One

Bambi (horrific death) shot dead and left behind in the woods

Bambi II dead mother, raised by father

Mama Dumbo (horrific death) locked in a cage and taken away from him forever

Pinocchio - motherless with only Geppeto

Sleeping Beauty raised by three inept aunts

The Sword in the Stone father, but no mother

Jungle Book - young Mowgli his surrogate caregivers are father

Little Mermaid - Ariel only has father, King Triton

Beauty and the Beast only has a father

Aladdin Jasmine only has a father, the king (mother captured by bandits and presumed dead, forcing Aladdin to fend for himself)

Chronicles of Narnia - no mother

The Goofy Movie - Max and Goofy are motherless

(Max’s heartthrob, the Girl Next Door, has only a father)

Pocahontas - No mother. One mumbled reference to “when your dear mother died.”

The Wild - no mother

The Lion King - No mother. Where are all the “Mom visions” like those Simba has of his deceased lion father up in the sky?

Chicken Little - Dead mother

Hunchback of Notre Dame - Mom was killed before Scene One

Atlantis: The Lost Empire mom is assimilated (dead)

Lilo and Stich - mother dies in car crash

Peter Pan - orphaned

The Fox & The Hound - mother is killed by hunters

Herbie: Fully Loaded - no mother

The Rescuers - absent mother

The Great Mouse Detective - no mother

Enchanted - mother is dead

Tarzan - no mother

and Pixar Animation:

Nemo (horrfic death) eaten by a huge barracuda in front of husband

That is fascinating, I had no idea.

There is a toddler-age channel in the US called "Nick JR." used to be Noggin, and many of the shows on that channel do not have parents at all, never show them, but the grandparents are there or another "parent" figure. I thought that strange.

Maybe this goes to the "it takes a village" to raise a child mentality. Let the state raise the kid, get away from the parental role. Scary.

[shellygurrrl]

I remember being emotionally - shoot, I would say a bit traumatized, from watching many Disney movies as a child. It's always about some animal fighting for its life, something is chasing it, trying to kill it... I also remember seeing E.T. and crying. As an emotional person, some things (like certain movies) affected me more than others. I remember watching some movie, gosh, I can't even remember the name of it, and crying so hard my parents told me to leave the room if it was upsetting me that bad(and this wasn't some scary movie, it was on TV, back in the 80s).

I used to get upset (still do) just watching national geographic stuff where the lion kills the baby deer or buffalo, etc. Yes, even the alligator must eat, but I don't need to see it!

Another thing to remember is, these movies are fine for adults to watch with a discerning eye. They can be useful to study. But definitely need to keep the young ones away, until they are old enough to understand and discuss the different elements.

[eclecticspirit]

As a child I was particularly traumatized by 'Old Yeller' (boy has to kill his own dog because it developed rabies), 'The Yearling' (boy is forced by his father to kill his pet deer after it starts eating the crops ... the fawn having been adopted by the boy after the mother deer was killed by the family to use the deer's organs to draw out the poison of a rattlesnake bite suffered by the father), 'Ring of Bright Water' (a man's companion/pet otter is killed with a shovel by a ditch-digger), and surprisingly, the animated holiday classic 'The Little Drummer Boy' (his little lamb is run over by a chariot). To this day (I'm 43), I cannot watch these films. Add to those 'Bambi' and 'Dumbo' ... the mom loss thing is just too much. My mother died when I was six.
Also, something that always greatly disturbed me and made me feel sad and lonely were the shows where the child would be forced to cast off an animal companion 'for its own good' by yelling the usual "Go away, I don't want you anymore!! Go on!! Get out of here!!" Actually, just typing those phrases made me feel very disturbed inside. :(

[armoured_amazon]

As a child I was particularly traumatized by 'Old Yeller' (boy has to kill his own dog because it developed rabies), 'The Yearling' (boy is forced by his father to kill his pet deer after it starts eating the crops ... the fawn having been adopted by the boy after the mother deer was killed by the family to use the deer's organs to draw out the poison of a rattlesnake bite suffered by the father), 'Ring of Bright Water' (a man's companion/pet otter is killed with a shovel by a ditch-digger), and surprisingly, the animated holiday classic 'The Little Drummer Boy' (his little lamb is run over by a chariot). To this day (I'm 43), I cannot watch these films. Add to those 'Bambi' and 'Dumbo' ... the mom loss thing is just too much. My mother died when I was six.
Also, something that always greatly disturbed me and made me feel sad and lonely were the shows where the child would be forced to cast off an animal companion 'for its own good' by yelling the usual "Go away, I don't want you anymore!! Go on!! Get out of here!!" Actually, just typing those phrases made me feel very disturbed inside. :(

I chuckle, but I remember feeling the same. :D

[eclecticspirit]

I chuckle, but I remember feeling the same. :D
Yeah, there's something just not right about putting a child through those kinds of feelings.

By the way, MERRY CHRISTMAS!! :D Hope you've had a lovely day. :)

[armoured_amazon]

Yeah, there's something just not right about putting a child through those kinds of feelings.

By the way, MERRY CHRISTMAS!! :D Hope you've had a lovely day. :)

I'm really spaced out today, I think my drugs kicked in, or something. Craving feta cheese atm, so making dinner at 01:01, ah there's those double numbers again. TERRORISING ME.

:eek:

Merry Christmas, ES :)

[ed benzedrine]

Monsters Inc was the one which stuck in my recent memory ... I remember as a small child being terrified of Daleks and Cybermen in Dr Who ( this is back when it was Jon Pertwee in the lead role ).. and Disney has long been one of the major perpetrators ... do you remember years and years back, The 'Sorcerer's Apprentice' ?

In a similar vein, and given that we know the subliminal / hypnotic nature of TV... has anyone else ever questioned these things that are 'on' to entertain kids while the adults get ready for work in the mornings ? ....

http://timthetiler.com/images/tweenies.jpg

I know I could be accused of being paranoid.. but these things look distinctly 'lizard-esque' to me, and are invading the minds of little ones daily... and we know how the subconscious will store and treat this type of stuff ... Tsarion talks often of how the brain stores information as 'pictograms'... those damn Tweenies worry me !

Cheers,
Ed.

[graflok]

Disney's "Polyanna" (1960) ends with the title character falling off a roof and
becoming paralyzed and taken off to a doctor that might be able to help
her but we never find out the outcome.

THE END

What a nice ending for kids. :cool:

[biblegirl]

Disney's "Polyanna" (1960) ends with the title character falling off a roof and
becoming paralyzed and taken off to a doctor that might be able to help
her but we never find out the outcome.

THE END

What a nice ending for kids. :cool:

lol yep that was terrible

[ed benzedrine]

I was just thinking ..... there's no way I would want to 'defend' Disney, but for some of these stories ( Films ), its difficult to hold them responsible - as they themselves didn't write the original books which led to the film production.

Jungle Book / Peter Pan / Cinderella / Sleeping Beauty etc, were not penned by Disney.
True, they (disney) do little or nothing to 'improve matters', but perhaps we need to look at other sources too.

Would that be fair comment ?


Cheers,
Ed.

[tien an]

My five-year-old daughter is on school holidays right now, and has been watching a bit more TV than usual.

In the last two weeks, I took my dog for a walk on the beach and, in removing my glove to get the dog-whistle out of my pocket, I lost my wedding ring (honestly!).

I thank you all for your contributions to this thread, because it's been a helluva wake-up call for me. (in particular gripit's post).

Two days ago, my wife took her wedding-ring off because her hands have started to swell, leaving it on her bedside table.
My daughter brought it downstairs and, in a tone of voice I'd normally expect from an adult, demanded to know what it was. (She knows exactly what our wedding rings are; we've explained it to her).
I told her...then she noticed mine was missing.
I don't think I've seen her quite so distraught (apart from when I had to comfort her during 'Monsters Inc.' when Sully (blue hairy monster) scares the little girl (Boo) shitless as he's giving a demonstration of scaring (also mentioned earlier).
It took quite a while to convince her that 'shit happens' and I lost my ring...and that mummy's hands have swollen and her ring is hurting her.

The past two nights she's begun sleepwalking.

No more TV or scary movies for her for a while...

Don't you lot start on me with the significance of losing wedding rings either!
I'm already beating myself up about it.

Thanks to all of you.

Happy New Year as well...(sincere wishes; no sarcasm intended).

tian an.

[tien an]

I was just thinking ..... there's no way I would want to 'defend' Disney, but for some of these stories ( Films ), its difficult to hold them responsible - as they themselves didn't write the original books which led to the film production.

Jungle Book / Peter Pan / Cinderella / Sleeping Beauty etc, were not penned by Disney.
True, they (disney) do little or nothing to 'improve matters', but perhaps we need to look at other sources too.

Would that be fair comment ?


Cheers,
Ed.

Yes; I'm an amateur short-story author...every good story begins with a controversy in the life of the main character. It's intentional.

I am, however, quite disturbed reading gripit's list...(having...not known my real father, an absolute bastard of a step-father and losing my mother when I was 16).

That last bit was not for effect.

tian an.

[metacomet]

http://timthetiler.com/images/tweenies.jpg

I know I could be accused of being paranoid.. but these things look distinctly 'lizard-esque' to me

Why is that one humping the girl? *sigh*

'Oh he's just daaaancing or striking a cool pose' they would say.

Nah. I see through it.

[multiverse]

Bible Girl,


Thank you for starting this thread. I have long noticed how Hollywood traumatizes kids (and adults). The threshold of violence allowed in films for children has evolved tremendously in the last 20 years. Greater and greater degrees of physical and psychological violence are in movies.



Here are some of the trends that I have noticed:
- desensitization towards violence
- initiation to sadism - many films have scenes which encourage laughter at the suffering of those who are presented as "weaker" or "outside of the norm" or "bad"

- encouragement of meanness and insensitiveness towards peers or of children towards adults


I too have noticed that very often one or two parents are missing, most often the mother. Why is the movie industry forcing children to identify with characters in traumatic situations?



In addition, there is a blurry line between what films present as good and bad, thus creating confusion for children. In many cases, you see "good characters" doing immoral, mean or cruel things sometimes in the name of "good."


Children watching these films are sitting in a seat in a passive state, most often without any adults with them who could give a critical perspective afterwards. Children are in a position of victimization; they cannot protect themselves from the absolute and pervasive violence they are exposed to. This leads to fear and repression of what's experienced, which is a technique of mind control which allows psychological programming.



The rating system is totally warped. In the U.S., many PG-13 films are extremely violent. And on the other hand, many "R" rated moves, supposedly not good for children, are actually quite innocent but maybe with a swear word or two.

[schaff]

Good thread biblegirl this is one of the biggest tools used by the illuminati/PTB to impregnate our subconcious with a deep rooted fear and trauma, that lets face it if no one had seen these images or knew that storyline you would not have that fear. Also add that to all the sexual subliminals ,occult symbolisim and racisim you have already started to corrupt an innocent child's mind .rRmember when we are young our minds are like a sponge and absorb everything that is what these movies are made for personally i dont think people should expose innocent young minds to this .

[graflok]

"Pinocchio" creeped me out as a kid. Especially the part about children being
turned into donkeys. "Peter Pan" too but don't remember why.

[mariag]

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_ZP1S6Myct3U/Sj-oyjsx3pI/AAAAAAAACE8/lqJq5yAcEMI/alice-in-wonderland-2010%5B2%5D.jpg

Alice in wonderland is scary by all means .;)

[justnotsure]

Disney's "Polyanna" (1960) ends with the title character falling off a roof and
becoming paralyzed and taken off to a doctor that might be able to help
her but we never find out the outcome.

THE END

What a nice ending for kids. :cool:

No No and thrice NOOOOOOOO. Not Pollyanna - that book means a lot to me. I LUUUUUURV the glad game.:mad:

[biblegirl]

everyone remember this nightmare of a freak show?!!

synopsis: the kids mother died, leaving them in poverty with an insane father and an even insaner grandfather...dad relates a first-person story which involves nearly drowning in the ocean, then flying to a village where all the children have been kidnapped and are kept in a dungeon...now even though the adults know that the creepy queen and king have enlisted a freak-show kidnapper to take any children, the children are left alone in a strange house and lured out to a cage with candy...the insane father and his blonde accomplice must act like dolls to save the children...what...the....crap

"There are children here somewhere. I can smell them"
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RaIEXF8c1Q8/SIDNKdVGJaI/AAAAAAAADmE/0WJa97EN7W0/s400/2z4y9vr.jpg

I'd like to beat whoever thought this was a cute idea for a children's film

http://cdn.ripple6.com/userfiles/98409/Image/Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang-m03.jpg

http://ourownocean.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/vlcsnap-2492157.png?w=450&h=337

If those other elements aren't disturbing enough, we encounter a sexually overtoned scene in which the king makes several feeble attempts to murder his wife. After trying to strangle her with her own hair, decapitate her with an axe, and drive a spear head through her unsuspecting torso (while she lays on an altar in the bedroom), he successfully unlatches a trap door through which his wife falls screaming through, while he laughs at her from above. Seriously, why on earth was this marketed to kids.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_k6suasioVUU/Sgtlxwoni9I/AAAAAAAAAd8/oqsu4doROFE/s400/chittychittybangbang2.JPG

[metacomet]

Wow biblegirl, I thought chitty chitty bang bang was about a flying car...

guess not!

Hmm that kidnapper reminds me an awful lot of 'Barnaby' the badguy in Babes in Toyland...

http://www.badmovies.org/movies/babestoyland/babestoyland5.jpg

http://www.badmovies.org/movies/babestoyland/babestoyland4.jpg

[delamo1999]

All of these posts are really good. But kids still beg their parents to take them to see all of these movies and the parents do it usually without an arguement.

I for one believe that Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire is not a childrens movie despite the fact that it is rated PG. In one scene there is a gory scene involving a blood ritual that is set in you name it - an old cemetary.

And what is the deal with Sponge Bob's little ocean town being named "Bikini Bottom"? I once mentioned this to my sister and she rolled her eyes and told me that I was reading to much into this. (She has kids who watch Sponge Bob).

[ed benzedrine]

Yes, much as I do enjoy watching the Harry Potter stuff, its full of symbolism... Philosipher's Stones, Ability to converse with 'serpents' , 'Draco' Malfoy and the more 'sinister' house of Slytherin, whose emblem is the serpent again, Dark Lord, etc etc etc.... a lot to be absorbed, compartmentalised & stored by the subconscious, until its needed to be drawn forward again at some later date ;)
Much more so than in the LOTR trilogy, IMHO.

[metacomet]

Oh maaan....

the Harry Potter movies are full of such dark and mature content that kids should definitely not be watching.


What they did with that series was start it off with young actors...

now the actors are grown up and the story and the movies have taken an incredibly dark turn. They are NOT for children anymore.

That's how they do things though, they slowly escalate it movie by movie.

And in the meantime, the actors who have grown up are doing nudity and sex scenes in other movies :rolleyes:

[ed benzedrine]

Totally ... and they probably never were for kids. ;)

I think I read somewhere that JK Rowling was OES, but I can't say for sure if thats correct.... anyone know ?

[metacomet]

I think I read somewhere that JK Rowling was OES, but I can't say for sure if thats correct.... anyone know ?

She definitely didn't write the Harry Potter series on napkins while sitting in a restaurant, penniless.

It makes me barf everytime I hear that story.

They always do their best to create lovable authors, directors, or creators of books, movies, etc. for kids... to keep us from inspecting the real inspirations.

JK Rowling has written how many novels? Within months of eachother...

A person who makes a billion + dollars is not going to waste their time continuing to write 4+ new books. But they want us to believe she just loves her fans sooo much... :rolleyes:

http://www.pegr.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/jk_rowling_narrowweb__300x3950.jpg



Not buying it.

... hope we're not straying too offtopic here.

[rydeon]

http://i35.tinypic.com/34xjrwn.gif

It's funny, I saw this as a kid and didn't have one nightmare from any of those films.
But some of the 'kids' movies were somehow more disturbing for the psyche I think.

[raquel]

It may sound weird but when i was a kid i was traumatized by anti eating disorder shows targeted at teens, like on showtime or hbo or just public channels. They say its for raising awareness by making these shows but all it did was make me want to try it out. Though I have been anorexic on purpose before, I was never bulimic, I wouldve never thought of bulimia on my own and seeing those shows seriously fucked with my head as a little girl growing up . It made me have a puke-phobia and I would get nightmares of people vomiting on me for years! It was horrible. I couldn't even go to the movies because I was scared the movie was going to show someone puking, which a lot of the times they do put in, for no apparent reason but to try to be "funny", well its disgusting really. Now the phobia is mainly gone, but im still scared someone will puke on me in a airplane for some weird reason. And no Im not bulimic but I tried it once after seeing one of those eating disorder shows-didn't work out , i think puking your own food for the sake of it is just... well plain wrong.

[michael_mac]

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_ZP1S6Myct3U/Sj-oyjsx3pI/AAAAAAAACE8/lqJq5yAcEMI/alice-in-wonderland-2010%5B2%5D.jpg

Alice in wonderland is scary by all means .;)

When I first saw that photo on the left, which I think looks like Madonna on a very bad night! Looks well freaky. Both look like something out of a nightmare. Is it a Tim Burton film I wonder? I'm not a minor but particularly the one on the left lookoddd!

[greydove]

Seriously?? :confused:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9LMtOMsiAc

[greydove]

Here's an original concept :rolleyes:

http://www.impawards.com/2010/posters/how_to_train_your_dragon_ver3.jpg

[kiwimaj]

In just about every Disney movie, one parent or both parents die leaving an orphan.

This is a "no Mom" list...

Brother Bear - someone threw a firey stick and she fell in water and died (horrific death-hunter kills her)

Cinderella mom has died before Scene One

Snow White mom has died before Scene One

Bambi (horrific death) shot dead and left behind in the woods

Bambi II dead mother, raised by father

Mama Dumbo (horrific death) locked in a cage and taken away from him forever

Pinocchio - motherless with only Geppeto

Sleeping Beauty raised by three inept aunts

The Sword in the Stone father, but no mother

Jungle Book - young Mowgli his surrogate caregivers are father

Little Mermaid - Ariel only has father, King Triton

Beauty and the Beast only has a father

Aladdin Jasmine only has a father, the king (mother captured by bandits and presumed dead, forcing Aladdin to fend for himself)

Chronicles of Narnia - no mother

The Goofy Movie - Max and Goofy are motherless

(Max’s heartthrob, the Girl Next Door, has only a father)

Pocahontas - No mother. One mumbled reference to “when your dear mother died.”

The Wild - no mother

The Lion King - No mother. Where are all the “Mom visions” like those Simba has of his deceased lion father up in the sky?

Chicken Little - Dead mother

Hunchback of Notre Dame - Mom was killed before Scene One

Atlantis: The Lost Empire mom is assimilated (dead)

Lilo and Stich - mother dies in car crash

Peter Pan - orphaned

The Fox & The Hound - mother is killed by hunters

Herbie: Fully Loaded - no mother

The Rescuers - absent mother

The Great Mouse Detective - no mother

Enchanted - mother is dead

Tarzan - no mother

and Pixar Animation:

Nemo (horrfic death) eaten by a huge barracuda in front of husband

Great posts !

I too came to learn about the absent parents in nearly all of the Disney films. It's not surprising at all, if you believe it's all about leading up to parentless and state run children, truly shocking and disturbing. I think Icke mentions about the biggest thread to the PTB are the family unit, so that has to be destroyed.

It's not only kids programmes that are parentless, loads of other shows and films have the same theme. Even in E.T. the family consists of the mother, the father having left for another woman.

Disney has got to be one of the most evil companies on the planet :mad:

[kiwimaj]

She definitely didn't write the Harry Potter series on napkins while sitting in a restaurant, penniless.

It makes me barf everytime I hear that story.

They always do their best to create lovable authors, directors, or creators of books, movies, etc. for kids... to keep us from inspecting the real inspirations.

JK Rowling has written how many novels? Within months of eachother...

A person who makes a billion + dollars is not going to waste their time continuing to write 4+ new books. But they want us to believe she just loves her fans sooo much... :rolleyes:

http://www.pegr.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/jk_rowling_narrowweb__300x3950.jpg



Not buying it.

... hope we're not straying too offtopic here.

..either do I ! Wonder why they chose her as the cover and why she is paid so much...is she pretty high up in the old masonic ladder?? :rolleyes:

[astrochicken]

ChittyChitty Bang Bang terrified me as a kid.. same as the green witch and the flying blue monkeys in the wizard of oz.


Wrote a song about movies traumatizing kids

http://www.macmillan.de/audio/09_Love_is_the_way.mp3


They frighten Kids with fairy tales,
The big bad witch she'll give you nightmares
You know that hollywood will never fail
making movies that keep you scared

The baddie with the bomb let's see what he'll do
You know he's hiding 'round the corner just waiting for you
You know he hates your freedom, at least that's what they say
Fear is what they want, but love, love is the way
Love is the way (i said don't be afraid)


Switch off your TV, it's the easiest thing you can do
Keep them out your home, they've no control over you
Take a walk in the sunshine, hear the children play.

Fear is what they want, and love is the way.

Love is the way and the sun shines every day.

[metacomet]

..either do I ! Wonder why they chose her as the cover and why she is paid so much...is she pretty high up in the old masonic ladder?? :rolleyes:

She's bloodline for sure... hence their willingness to give her billions in result of the books.

And the reason she's willing to continue writing books (from which the movies are made) is not because she needs the money but because she's signed a contract we're not aware of in the mainstream.

ChittyChitty Bang Bang terrified me as a kid.. same as the green witch and the flying blue monkeys in the wizard of oz.


Wrote a song about movies traumatizing kids

http://www.macmillan.de/audio/09_Love_is_the_way.mp3

Awesome astro!

Did you write that just now? Very tight.

[astrochicken]

Awesome astro!

Did you write that just now? Very tight.

Cheers!!! :)

[salimonkey]

new dreamworks movie:

http://www.wildaboutmovies.com/images_7/HowToTrainYourDragon.jpg

[greydove]

new dreamworks movie:

http://www.wildaboutmovies.com/images_7/HowToTrainYourDragon.jpg


Weird, I tried to post this on the top of the page but they took the picture away :rolleyes:

Anyway, the main dragon is strange looking. It's like they tried to make it look like a little kid....

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_-tjeTo7mGzc/Szn3xH_9bKI/AAAAAAAAAD4/BP6pGYMTWM4/s400/how+to+train+your+dragon.jpg

[sithnemesis]

http://cjhallman44.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/where_the_wild_things_are_poster2.jpg
http://hazel8500.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/wildthingsposter.jpg?w=392&h=568 http://iconsoffright.com/news/Where%20the%20Wild%20Things%20Are.jpg http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/famecrawler/2008/09/16-22/maurice-sendak-wild-things-little-bear-gay-nigh-kitchen-art-author-illustrator.jpg http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/2009/03/wildthingsboards21.jpg http://blog.80millionmoviesfree.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/where-the-wild-things-are.jpg

[codie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqi5F5MqqTQ :eek:

[sithnemesis]

Weird, I tried to post this on the top of the page but they took the picture away :rolleyes:

Anyway, the main dragon is strange looking. It's like they tried to make it look like a little kid....

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_-tjeTo7mGzc/Szn3xH_9bKI/AAAAAAAAAD4/BP6pGYMTWM4/s400/how+to+train+your+dragon.jpg

They want people to go: 'AAHH what is that ugly scary snake-looking thing??... OH wait a minute it's so cute!!!...'

http://www.scifiupdates.com/main/seyretfiles/images/video_www_scifiupdates_com_videos_fantasymovtr_how to_train_your_dragon_jpg.jpg

http://images2.fanpop.com/image/quiz/338000/338883_1262164185247_312_327.jpg

http://www.collider.com/wp-content/image-base/Movies/H/How_to_Train_Your_Dragon/slices/slice_how_to_train_your_dragon_movie_poster_01.jpg

http://server40136.uk2net.com/~wpower/images/product_images/9780007337972.jpg

http://z.about.com/d/movies/1/0/c/T/U/howtotrainyourdragonposter.jpg

http://www.moviesonline.ca/movie-gallery/albums/userpics//EragonTeaserPoster.jpg

[sithnemesis]

http://sitters4u.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/gruffalo1.jpg http://www.southlondon-today.co.uk/tn/content/newsimages/gruffalo_2.jpg http://lacer.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/the-gruffalo-001.jpg http://www.maciekgliwa.com/2009_12_21_gruffalo1.jpg http://srv-londonimages-2.londontown.com/2007/October/RC939348_429long.jpg http://img4.immage.de/2712192thegruffalo2009hdtv.jpg

http://www.kidstylefile.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/trunki-gruffalo.jpg

[sithnemesis]

http://jeremyberg.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/neverending_story_dvd_1096.jpg

The Auryn

http://voornamen.web-log.nl/voornamen/WindowsLiveWriter/ATREYUERENDIL_266/never_ending_story_noah_hathaway9.jpg
http://www.yourprops.com/norm-44b3fad54a8ab-NeverEnding+Story+,+The+(1984).jpeg

http://doyoucompete.blog.com/files/2009/12/neverending-story.jpg

[sithnemesis]

http://www.wildaboutmovies.com/images_7/AliensInTheAttic.jpg http://www.testfreaks.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/windowslivewriteraliensintheatticscreenshotsandmor e-de90aliens-in-the-attic-game-cover-d01-2.jpg

http://images.allmoviephoto.com/2009_Aliens_in_the_Attic/2009_aliens_in_the_attic_026.jpg

[sithnemesis]

http://mcmillanteens.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/coraline1.jpg

http://www.impawards.com/2009/posters/coraline_ver3.jpg http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/movie/gallery/1189949/photo_39_hires.jpg

http://witneyman.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/coraline-2.jpg http://www.canmag.com/images/front/movies2009/coralineposter3.jpg

http://digitalhysteria.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Coraline_3.jpg

[sithnemesis]

http://sorenz.dk/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/9.jpg

http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/flickr/77/32/002076407732.jpg

http://a7.vox.com/6a00c2252c41ce8fdb00e398f638970005-500pi

[sithnemesis]

http://images3.souq.com/uploaded/0209/7c5b67e47aae82141b9244d9eb1a7d1d_40491612291233842 138.jpg

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2004/09/03/thunderbirds_wideweb__430x279.jpg http://application.denofgeek.com/images/m/75spaceships/main/Thunderbird_3.jpg http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_vLbMuPkqGIw/SLKg7VB32MI/AAAAAAAADnI/l-sY8huN288/s400/Thunderbirds1960sPoster.jpg http://s11.acephotos.org/images/orig/h/u/hus3vec222ggev2u.jpg

http://www.wrongsideoftheart.com/wp-content/gallery/posters-t/thunderbirds_are_go_poster_03.jpg

http://www.stomptokyo.com/img-m5/thunderbirds-go-c.jpg

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/kingsleypersia.jpg http://images.allmoviephoto.com/2004_Thunderbirds/2004_thunderbirds_001.jpg

[biblegirl]

new dreamworks movie:

http://www.wildaboutmovies.com/images_7/HowToTrainYourDragon.jpg

Weird, I tried to post this on the top of the page but they took the picture away :rolleyes:

Anyway, the main dragon is strange looking. It's like they tried to make it look like a little kid....

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_-tjeTo7mGzc/Szn3xH_9bKI/AAAAAAAAAD4/BP6pGYMTWM4/s400/how+to+train+your+dragon.jpg

yeah that's a good find

i just saw a giant poster for this at wal-mart with the kids clothes...they're making reptilians cute for kids in this one and it's not subtle at all

is the moral of the story, that when something looks evil and dangerous, we should ignore our instinct to get away from it and make friends with it instead?

p.s. i never saw "The Neverending Story", but i did see little clips of it here and there when i was little, and it SCARED me plenty

[sithnemesis]

http://www.hamovhotov.com/picturegallery/images/wallpapers/movie_wallpapers/scooby_doo_2_monsters_unleashed.jpg

http://www.hamovhotov.com/picturegallery/images/wallpapers/movie_wallpapers/Scooby%20Doo%202%20Monsters%20Unleashed%20(1).jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_AGXlKNxtdl8/SsxZc-hjEuI/AAAAAAAAAnw/dqltwnkbqlo/s400/ScoobyDooMovieBig.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_D1ZZyTOG7tQ/RzVJH57Jb1I/AAAAAAAABWc/xTG9fn6_hA8/s320/ScoobyDoo_Alien_Invaders.jpg http://www.inter-activities.com/Steve%20Bramson/Scooby-doo-on-zombie-island.jpg

http://www.celebritywonder.com/mp/2003_Scooby-Doo_2:_Monsters_Unleashed/movieposter.jpg http://www.velmadinkley.com/velma3.jpg http://edukacija.net84.net/Crtani%20Filmovi%202/Scooby%20Doo%20in%20Where%27s%20My%20Mummy%20(2005 ).jpg http://static.hometheaterforum.com/imgrepo/5/54/htf_imgcache_37662.jpeg

[sithnemesis]

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s108/Angels_photo_album/The_Nightmare_Before_Christmas.jpg

http://www.dan-dare.org/FreeFun/Images/CartoonsMoviesTV/NightmareBeforeChristmasWallpaper1024.jpg

http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/The-Nightmare-Before-Christmas-nightmare-before-christmas-227704_1024_768.jpg

http://www.astor-theatre.com/images/in-line/posters/postersT/the-nightmare-before-christmas-ver1.jpg http://www.moviehole.net/wp-content/uploads/nmbc3dfeaturette01.jpg

http://www.misfittoys.net/forsale/nbcvillage.jpg

[sithnemesis]

http://z.about.com/d/animatedtv/1/0/I/x/count_duckula.jpg ...............http://www.certifiedsourcetimber.co.uk/webcore/duckula.jpg

[linda28]

The music and imagery used can be very scary at times. I remember as a child being scared out of my mind at the scene in Sleeping Beauty when the queen changes into a dragon and chases the prince.

Yeah, I haven't thought about this before. It's true. I remember being terrified of the sound book with cassette when listening to Snow white. The witch, the way she talked and laughed still give me nightmares.

Also perhaps something about the extreme power in all these stories. The witch/queen chases a weak person who is nice and spiritual. Reminds me of how a lot of people feel like outcasts in society because they see their opponent (government, competition) as too strong for them. Like surrender to power (?) Or allowing abuse to happen.

Sleeping beauty - I remember that long stair, which kind of reminds me of the staircase in Twin Peaks which also scared the hell out of me when watching as a kid. And the threat of a "thorn" on that dark black room. It's very scary indeed. Good thing we are discovering this.

[tebby]

Elephants on parade.

-shivers-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=944cPciN-kw

[sithnemesis]

http://www.dan-dare.org/FreeFun/Images/CartoonsMoviesTV/PowerRangersDinoPoster.jpg http://www.popartuk.com/g/l/lgmp0982+jungle-fury-power-rangers-mini-poster.jpg

http://www.grnrngr.com/monsters/images/eglogo.gif http://www.grnrngr.com/monsters/pictures/car12.jpg

http://www.supersentai.com/database/1986_flashman/images/flash-vi-monsters_lr.jpg

http://www.rovang.org/wg/pics/goldar-latemmpr1.jpg http://www.grnrngr.com/monsters/pictures/kr/lordcrisis.jpg http://www.freewebs.com/mightymorphin_powerrangers/putty.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3023/2818519904_6f733df103_o.jpg

http://toys.about.com/b/a/Yellow-Ranger.jpg

[metacomet]

Elephants on parade.

-shivers-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=944cPciN-kw

Oh yeah good one!

[earthicastar]

Kids? ... Hell, this stuff traumatizes ME!

especially Winnie the Pooh.. and his little Owl friend

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxdWJfvVKy0

[architectorion]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqi5F5MqqTQ :eek:

Wow I have seen that at some point in my life but I can't remember where! Did they used to air it on tv or has it always just been on video? :confused:

[metacomet]

Kids? ... Hell, this stuff traumatizes ME!

especially Winnie the Pooh.. and his little Owl friend

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxdWJfvVKy0

:eek:

Oh...

my......

GOD....


I can't state emphatically enough how frightening that would be for someone on mushrooms...

Especially at 1:20 when you're lead through Winnie's little tumble into madness. That wooozle room would absolutely break a persons mind if they were tripping.

That's incredibly intense stuff.

[tebby]

:eek:

Oh...

my......

GOD....


I can't state emphatically enough how frightening that would be for someone on mushrooms...

Especially at 1:20 when you're lead through Winnie's little tumble into madness. That wooozle room would absolutely break a persons mind if they were tripping.

That's incredibly intense stuff.

I felt like i was trippin just watching it.
it was so confusing.
and scary at points.

[mountainwarrior]

"Monsters Inc.

The plot of the movie is that the Monsters access a dimensional door to childrens' bedrooms throughout the world and harvest their screams for energy by frightening the living daylights out of them! Now why does that sound familiar?"

it pretty much describes how the illuminati sacrifice and torture and rape children and get high off the pain and suffering and fear energy produced, to appease demon and reptilian astral entities, in the human sacrifice ritual sexual rituals of these sick inbred twisted demonic ass bag bastards from hell.

[marisabia]

really, what it's looking like is everything on film and in books is bad for kids, does anyone have any suggestions of anything my child can safely watch or read? keeping him in a closet is not an option. :(

it sure would be nice if someone could start a thread about this, unfortunately i don't know if there would be anything to post.

[ufochick]

I recently had a discussion with a forum member on how children's movies (disney in particular) are designed to traumatize children and evoke terror and fear. The music and imagery used can be very scary at times. I remember as a child being scared out of my mind at the scene in Sleeping Beauty when the queen changes into a dragon and chases the prince. When the villagers chase the beast in Beauty and the Beast, and Gaston chases and kills him. The Lion King also had some very dark parts that upset me, even though I was 12: the Uncle murdering the father then trying to kill the son the same way. These are just a few examples of images that disturbed me and haunted me for long after I watched the movies. I have a friend who had a fainting problem for a few months, and she said she always knew when she was about to faint because she could hear the song that the witch sang in the Little Mermaid playing in her mind, and she could still hear it when she came to after the fainting spell (she was in her 20s at the time, long after she watched that movie). These are all children's movies, rated G, marketed to children.

I just saw this image on the cover of a Finding Nemo DVD and it is horrible. A good example of how the imagery affects our children who watch the horror scenes:
http://i12.tinypic.com/66csq6w.jpg

Honestly that makes me want to cry, because I have watched innocent children with faces just as terrified as the picture, while these scenes play on the screen in front of them. Something is very wrong with this.

What's interesting though is that BEFORE Disney (Iagree disney is crap) the fairy tales were very dark. The original "the little mermaid" story is quite different and very sad at the end.
I wonder if the "old" stories were a way of parents warning their kids about the real monsters or did the propaganda begin that long ago?

[sithnemesis]

What's interesting though is that BEFORE Disney (Iagree disney is crap) the fairy tales were very dark. The original "the little mermaid" story is quite different and very sad at the end.
I wonder if the "old" stories were a way of parents warning their kids about the real monsters or did the propaganda begin that long ago?

Good point. :)

I don't think that the ''stroies'' were warning people of anything but merely acid-testing an interest in their material.

They did start their propaganda centuries ago through various writers... 'new age' writers who can be compared to Greek tragedy poets and gospel writers and re-writers. The Disney machine modified and brought these stories to the big screen to engineer and maximise the enchantment and reach wider audiences. Comic book authors and illustrators did pretty much the same job until the advent of cinema. It's funny how the big disney machine has swallowed some of the most successful properties... namely its latest acquisition the 'Marvel Universe'.

[tebby]

When I was younger I was watching an Easter movie marathon (I think it may have been on the Disney Channel) and I remember seeing a this horrifying Easter movie...It may have been aimed for adults though it seemed every other Easter special was aimed for children that day.

I am having a hard time finding clips from the movie or pictures; here is what I have found
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6UaXsFuL2s&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGqxww5DHmI&feature=related

The pig calls the Easter Bunny a working mother?


Claymation movies/shows always give me an erie feeling. I also remember having and uneasy feeling watching Gumby, but for some reason I felt compelled to watch the show.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcoKEsaoa6I
"he can change into anything"

[metacomet]

To find something else Easter related I was looking for crucifixion 'cartoons' (christian animated series).

Nothin' quite as traumatizing as exposing kids to Christ being tortured and sacrifice :p ... but I remember that very well. Another sick invented custom in Christianity which Christ himself would be pretty appauled with.





This is almost as bad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UabYjhhzG4Q

[christ4life]

The part in Toy Story when Sid had taken apart his sisters toys, and made weird things with them. The human doll head on spider legs, and legs without a body. Made me think about cloning, and other experiments that could be done on human beings.

[biblegirl]

Claymation movies/shows always give me an erie feeling. I also remember having and uneasy feeling watching Gumby, but for some reason I felt compelled to watch the show.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcoKEsaoa6I
"he can change into anything"

ah geez, i TOTALLY forgot about gumby! that shapeshifting maniac was such a freak show, i also got scared from it!!

[biblegirl]

What's interesting though is that BEFORE Disney (Iagree disney is crap) the fairy tales were very dark. The original "the little mermaid" story is quite different and very sad at the end.
I wonder if the "old" stories were a way of parents warning their kids about the real monsters or did the propaganda begin that long ago?

there was a girl who came to our school from germany as an exchange student, and i remember her telling me how grisly fairy tales are there...something about the stepsisters cutting off cinderellas feet :eek:

but even what we have leftover from Hansel and Gretel is pretty dark...some creepy lady in the woods who lures kids to her house so she can cook and eat them

[biblegirl]

really, what it's looking like is everything on film and in books is bad for kids, does anyone have any suggestions of anything my child can safely watch or read? keeping him in a closet is not an option. :(

it sure would be nice if someone could start a thread about this, unfortunately i don't know if there would be anything to post.

imo Thomas the Tank Engine seems the most harmless out of available children's films...it is nice because it is not flashy or animated (which can overwhelm childrens brains), no obnoxioius loud voices (all narrated by one guy) and the themes seem pretty mild (no sorcery or romances) :)

[metacomet]

imo Thomas the Tank Engine seems the most harmless out of available children's films...it is nice because it is not flashy or animated (which can overwhelm childrens brains), no obnoxioius loud voices (all narrated by one guy) and the themes seem pretty mild (no sorcery or romances) :)


Oooo don't forget

http://www.qubo.com/channel/img/theodore_feature.jpg


At 4:00 in is just a good example of how calming the narrative is... totally a good show to calm kids down, I reckon :p


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4REanhzCc4A

[gingerpunk]

http://kiraa.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/postersplash.jpg http://www.kollectablekaos.com.au/images/DarkCrystal-landstrider.jpg
http://borrowednotes.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/the-dark-crystal-brian-froud-posters.jpg http://www.lauraknauth.com/MovieCollectibles/SmithCover.JPG http://www.jeffpidgeon.com/uploaded_images/froudmystic-736312.jpg

I was about 4 when my mom took me to see this movie. I actually loved it and wasn't scared- don't know if that's weird.

What is weird is that I had completely forgotten that it existed, until I was 17 and I had a dream that I was watching it. When I woke up, I could describe about 75% of the plot to my mother, which I did, because I wanted to know what the movie was called so I could rent it. She said I was crazy and that the movie didn't exist. (I described it to the lady at the video store and she pointed me in the right direction. Now I have it on dvd.)

[gingerpunk]

http://sorenz.dk/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/9.jpg

http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/flickr/77/32/002076407732.jpg

http://a7.vox.com/6a00c2252c41ce8fdb00e398f638970005-500pi

I love The Golden Compass simply for being the anti-Narnia.

[gingerpunk]

What's interesting though is that BEFORE Disney (Iagree disney is crap) the fairy tales were very dark. The original "the little mermaid" story is quite different and very sad at the end.
I wonder if the "old" stories were a way of parents warning their kids about the real monsters or did the propaganda begin that long ago?

I remember reading somewhere that the story of Little Red Riding Hood was originally told to children as a way of keeping them out of the woods. I believe it said that many parents had lost their children to wolves, but I find that highly unlikely since wolves don't often attacked when not provoked, and children are not likely to provoke. I took that sentence to mean many children disappeared into the woods in medieval times and were never seen again.

[christ4life]

My kids really liked Oswald from Nick Jr. Very calming music, pleasant, friendly characters with manners, and non violent. The sad thing is good childrens cartoons don't stay aired very long. Thats the good thing about having dvds, and other things available so you can avoid all the junk thats on television.

[cheesedanish]

Thought I would add the Princess and the frog to this list as I went to see it with my kids and found some parts quite terrifying.

Can't believe they call this a children's movie. Anyhow I should know Disney movies are dark.

Check out Dr. Facilier with his skull and bones hat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9eV3q2b1Gg

[sabiera]

Half of you people are insane.

Nearly every movie one of you has listed on here were some of my favorite movies back in the day. Still are, in fact. What IS it alright to make a kids movie about? What DO you suggest kids should watch? Dora the fucking Explorer? Your kid will be talking like a retard in less than a few months.

And Anastasia... lol... Is NOT Disney...

You're taking this way too far. You make it sound like Disneys goal was to brainwash and traumatize but nothing else. You know what I think? People are just a bit too sensitive after they discovered those 'hidden sexual themes' which were most likely put in by ONE of the animators. The only creepy thing about Disney, is how it's so extremely perfect.

Notice how kids now are getting exposed to violence at a younger age? Have you ever stopped to think that dark cartoons might by satisfying some subconscious curiosity in childrens mind? And all the new generation parents trying to shield their children from what they think is EVIL is only just fueling the fire?

One should not shield children from darkness. For darkness will find them anyway, and all the more easilly if they're not prepared...

Give your kids a little more credit. I'm sure they're a lot braver than you believe them to be. What doesn't kill ya makes ya stronger, my friends.

[energi]

http://e621.net/data/aa/53/aa530deab9b0d03a2d0fd9e4c971bd79.jpg

Did the demand for anal beads rise that year during the christmas shopping? :eek::p

(and it IS a screencap from the actual movie, not photoshopped or anything)

[biblegirl]

dang the image from my OP was deleted, here it is again for anyone who is interested:

http://wallpampers.com/pictures/2515/FindingNemo.jpg

[metacomet]

Half of you people are insane.

Nearly every movie one of you has listed on here were some of my favorite movies back in the day.

I'm tempted to just stop reading beyond that.

Some people seem to think that objectively looking at their childhood movies as an adult is somehow sacrilegious, like trying to make something dirty out of something innocent.

Innocent children may view a movie in innocence. But movies with deliberate subconscious or hypersensory messages / images are not made with an innocent intent.

As we grow up we might refuse to accept that there is an element in the world that aims to subtly pervert or twist our minds at an early age, but it is true, it is there and many children are undergoing it right now. I went through it, most everyone I know went through it.

To try and make things better for kids to come means not rolling our eyes and saying things like "Oh that's crazy, I watched that show as a kid. I ate that food. I took my shots. Look at me I'm fine."

The problem with adults is their tendency to compare their own childhood which was decades ago, to that of modern children. Modern children are in a much more intense environment than we were in the 70's and 80's.

Likewise earlier generations claimed we were 'spoiled' by modern times and that they had grown up in more innocent and proper times.

There is so much that a person can say to dismiss the reality of what kids are really being exposed to. Seeing, eating, hearing, etc.


One should not shield children from darkness. For darkness will find them anyway, and all the more easilly if they're not prepared...

Right, right.

A bear will eat a child if he can, and there are so many bears in the world! We might as well just leave children to fend by themselves, they're going to be eaten anyway right?

[tien an]

Hi biblegirl,

y'know, my daughter watches this (6yrs old) and loves it.


Yet she turns the sound off in places and the DVD player off completely during Wallace & Grommit films.

Go figure...

BTW, I found my wedding ring down the back of the radiator!
(It had fallen out of my glove as I put them there to dry).


tian an.

[merla]

http://e621.net/data/aa/53/aa530deab9b0d03a2d0fd9e4c971bd79.jpg

Did the demand for anal beads rise that year during the christmas shopping? :eek::p

(and it IS a screencap from the actual movie, not photoshopped or anything)

OMG out of context that looks so terrible. In context the beads are threaded onto the mouse's tail and isn't filthy bad wrong.

[tien an]

http://e621.net/data/aa/53/aa530deab9b0d03a2d0fd9e4c971bd79.jpg

Did the demand for anal beads rise that year during the christmas shopping? :eek::p

(and it IS a screencap from the actual movie, not photoshopped or anything)

That is seriously disturbing to see in a children's film.

I'm shocked.

tian an.

PS Ah...I've just read the above post. (Thanks for the clarification). Naughty naughty energi

[calaquendi]

In just about every Disney movie, one parent or both parents die leaving an orphan.

This is a "no Mom" list...

Brother Bear - someone threw a firey stick and she fell in water and died (horrific death-hunter kills her)

Cinderella mom has died before Scene One

Snow White mom has died before Scene One

Bambi (horrific death) shot dead and left behind in the woods

Bambi II dead mother, raised by father

Mama Dumbo (horrific death) locked in a cage and taken away from him forever

Pinocchio - motherless with only Geppeto

Sleeping Beauty raised by three inept aunts

The Sword in the Stone father, but no mother

Jungle Book - young Mowgli his surrogate caregivers are father

Little Mermaid - Ariel only has father, King Triton

Beauty and the Beast only has a father

Aladdin Jasmine only has a father, the king (mother captured by bandits and presumed dead, forcing Aladdin to fend for himself)

Chronicles of Narnia - no mother

The Goofy Movie - Max and Goofy are motherless

(Max’s heartthrob, the Girl Next Door, has only a father)

Pocahontas - No mother. One mumbled reference to “when your dear mother died.”

The Wild - no mother

The Lion King - No mother. Where are all the “Mom visions” like those Simba has of his deceased lion father up in the sky?

Chicken Little - Dead mother

Hunchback of Notre Dame - Mom was killed before Scene One

Atlantis: The Lost Empire mom is assimilated (dead)

Lilo and Stich - mother dies in car crash

Peter Pan - orphaned

The Fox & The Hound - mother is killed by hunters

Herbie: Fully Loaded - no mother

The Rescuers - absent mother

The Great Mouse Detective - no mother

Enchanted - mother is dead

Tarzan - no mother

and Pixar Animation:

Nemo (horrfic death) eaten by a huge barracuda in front of husband

Wow, looking at that list really is telling, I'm not sure what the agenda is, however the first thing that entered my mind was, is it getting kids use to having moms in the workplace and not at home?

Thank you for compiling that list, I can't believe I never noticed that.

[kiwimaj]

Monsters Inc was the one which stuck in my recent memory ... I remember as a small child being terrified of Daleks and Cybermen in Dr Who ( this is back when it was Jon Pertwee in the lead role ).. and Disney has long been one of the major perpetrators ... do you remember years and years back, The 'Sorcerer's Apprentice' ?

In a similar vein, and given that we know the subliminal / hypnotic nature of TV... has anyone else ever questioned these things that are 'on' to entertain kids while the adults get ready for work in the mornings ? ....

http://timthetiler.com/images/tweenies.jpg

I know I could be accused of being paranoid.. but these things look distinctly 'lizard-esque' to me, and are invading the minds of little ones daily... and we know how the subconscious will store and treat this type of stuff ... Tsarion talks often of how the brain stores information as 'pictograms'... those damn Tweenies worry me !

Cheers,
Ed.

Note the position of the 3rd (male) creature and the way it is standing, so close, to the (female) creature to it's left..hmmm...Are they meant to be children in character? Yet more sexualisation of the youngsters...disturbing to say the least..:mad:

[kiwimaj]

Wow, looking at that list really is telling, I'm not sure what the agenda is, however the first thing that entered my mind was, is it getting kids use to having moms in the workplace and not at home?

Thank you for compiling that list, I can't believe I never noticed that.

Great List !! I think it is also implying that there is no need for a mother figure, she is totally unimportant to the child and it is also implying that no mother about is somehow acceptable.

You will notice also that in mainstream soaps, there is no proper family unit,here are just but a few examples that I can think of..

Corrie

The last remaining proper family, from the get go, has been torn apart by infidelity (Sally & Kevin)..The mother of Kevin's baby just so happens to get killed off leaving him to bring up the baby..

The builder who has the daughter in a wheelchair and other daughter - no mother.

The Sian character, abusive father and absent mother who doesn't give a fig,

Steve McD, bringing up his daughter whilst the mother is in prison

Lucas, the preacher villian in eastenders who is bringing up his child whilst the the drug addict of a mother is absent, then he knocks her off.

Eastenders

The two blondes being brought up by the father (Archie) until he was knocked off, then the absent, nasty mother re-enters the scene..

The bumbling idiot Billie bringing up a that young guy after his father was knocked off..no mention of the mother..

Kat is pregnant with her hubbies cousin's baby, whilst continually dressing like a prostitute..what a great role model she is...NOT...


The males are generally portrayed as bumbling idiots whilst the females are usually the evil, nasty, and in a far stronger position that the male characters.

The family unit as a whole is no longer seems to exist within these soaps, it is seen as quite normal to be having affairs, no mothers, no fathers, lots of step children etc..but then they will say all they are doing is simply "reflecting" society, when in fact, they are helping to direct it to into whatever agenda they are fullfilling by their puppet masters.

:cool:

[monster]

Watership Down.
I watched this a kid, and had nightmares for a long time and developed a phobia of rabbits, after I saw this.

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t149/SnowWhiteQueenCharlotte/th_attack.jpg (http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t149/SnowWhiteQueenCharlotte/?action=view&current=attack.jpg)

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t149/SnowWhiteQueenCharlotte/th_7woundwort_bigwig_fight.jpg (http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t149/SnowWhiteQueenCharlotte/?action=view&current=7woundwort_bigwig_fight.jpg)


http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t149/SnowWhiteQueenCharlotte/th_watershipdown.png (http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t149/SnowWhiteQueenCharlotte/?action=view&current=watershipdown.png)

[gladys]

I read somewhere recently (i'm pretty sure it was from James Casbolt) that the actual screams of children and adults (during satanic ritual abuse/murder) are recorded and put into childrens/adults movies. On a conscious level we are not aware that these screams are real, but on an unconscious level we are, apparently. Another way tptb traumatise us.

How horrific is that? (if its true)

[metacomet]

Watership Down.
I watched this a kid, and had nightmares for a long time and developed a phobia of rabbits, after I saw this.

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t149/SnowWhiteQueenCharlotte/th_attack.jpg (http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t149/SnowWhiteQueenCharlotte/?action=view&current=attack.jpg)

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t149/SnowWhiteQueenCharlotte/th_7woundwort_bigwig_fight.jpg (http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t149/SnowWhiteQueenCharlotte/?action=view&current=7woundwort_bigwig_fight.jpg)


http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t149/SnowWhiteQueenCharlotte/th_watershipdown.png (http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t149/SnowWhiteQueenCharlotte/?action=view&current=watershipdown.png)

:eek: What is the plot to that movie?

[merla]

:eek: What is the plot to that movie?

Watership down is about a group of rabbits that leave their warren because one of them has a vision that the warren is in great danger, he sees the fields running red with blood. The chief rabbit won't listen so only a little group leave. They find out later that the vision was correct and that man came and gased the warren because they want to clear the area to build on. The story follows them as they look for a new place to live and how they establish their new warren once they get there. It's quite an interesting book, the rabbits have their own god frith. a death figure called the black rabbit that at first seems frightening but isn't, he's just a part of what it means to live (ie everything must die sometimes and at the end of a long life it is a release) and their spirituality is present all the way through the book/film. It's also pretty anti-establishment, they infultrate another warren to get some girl rabbits, this is run by the evil dictator rabbit general woundwart (I think that was his name), the rabbits in this warren are downtrodden and forced to live their lives according to very strict rules. If they break the rules the punishments are harsh and can even be death.

It's a very disturbing film for children to watch because it has a lot of frightening visions and violence. I don't think the original book was meant for children but it was about talking rabbits so was classed as one. It has far too many interesting concepts and comments on society for me to believe it was written as a kiddie book.

I loved the introduction of the film, it was the rabbit's creation story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xutledT-ehM

but as you can see from just that it's not a feel good kiddie film.

[firstlook]

In just about every Disney movie, one parent or both parents die leaving an orphan.

This is a "no Mom" list...

Brother Bear - someone threw a firey stick and she fell in water and died (horrific death-hunter kills her)

Cinderella mom has died before Scene One

Snow White mom has died before Scene One

Bambi (horrific death) shot dead and left behind in the woods

Bambi II dead mother, raised by father

Mama Dumbo (horrific death) locked in a cage and taken away from him forever

Pinocchio - motherless with only Geppeto

Sleeping Beauty raised by three inept aunts

The Sword in the Stone father, but no mother

Jungle Book - young Mowgli his surrogate caregivers are father

Little Mermaid - Ariel only has father, King Triton

Beauty and the Beast only has a father

Aladdin Jasmine only has a father, the king (mother captured by bandits and presumed dead, forcing Aladdin to fend for himself)

Chronicles of Narnia - no mother

The Goofy Movie - Max and Goofy are motherless

(Max’s heartthrob, the Girl Next Door, has only a father)

Pocahontas - No mother. One mumbled reference to “when your dear mother died.”

The Wild - no mother

The Lion King - No mother. Where are all the “Mom visions” like those Simba has of his deceased lion father up in the sky?

Chicken Little - Dead mother

Hunchback of Notre Dame - Mom was killed before Scene One

Atlantis: The Lost Empire mom is assimilated (dead)

Lilo and Stich - mother dies in car crash

Peter Pan - orphaned

The Fox & The Hound - mother is killed by hunters

Herbie: Fully Loaded - no mother

The Rescuers - absent mother

The Great Mouse Detective - no mother

Enchanted - mother is dead

Tarzan - no mother

and Pixar Animation:

Nemo (horrfic death) eaten by a huge barracuda in front of husband

I like the idea that these films stay true to real life. Not everyone grows up in a perfect world. ;)

[metacomet]

It's a very disturbing film for children to watch because it has a lot of frightening visions and violence. I don't think the original book was meant for children but it was about talking rabbits so was classed as one.

Definitely doesn't sound meant of children, but yes the talking bunnies thing...

funny how animated movies can be so easily meant for adults but end up being viewed by children.

Another animated movie I was pretty sure even as a kid, wasn't meant just for me :

http://snarkerati.com/movie-news/files/2010/06/roger-rabbit-2.jpg

[gripit]

Definitely doesn't sound meant of children, but yes the talking bunnies thing...

funny how animated movies can be so easily meant for adults but end up being viewed by children.

Another animated movie I was pretty sure even as a kid, wasn't meant just for me :

http://snarkerati.com/movie-news/files/2010/06/roger-rabbit-2.jpg

Hello metacomet! Hope all is well :)

How about Jessica Rabbit's beaver in that film? :eek:

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/2811/jess2q.jpg (http://img692.imageshack.us/i/jess2q.jpg/)

[merla]

Definitely doesn't sound meant of children, but yes the talking bunnies thing...

funny how animated movies can be so easily meant for adults but end up being viewed by children.

Another animated movie I was pretty sure even as a kid, wasn't meant just for me :

http://snarkerati.com/movie-news/files/2010/06/roger-rabbit-2.jpg

Ooooh yes, everything about that film says 'not really for kids!'. It's a film noir full of sex and violence that just happens to involve a twist were cartoon characters are real life beings and work for the studios like actors, yeah that's what families should be watching with their little ones lol. Most of the jokes are either double meanings over sex or really dark as well.
The one thing that bothered me most in that film and I still shudder over now is that little cartoon boot that gets thrown in the goo near the beginning.

[metacomet]

Ooooh yes, everything about that film says 'not really for kids!'. It's a film noir full of sex and violence that just happens to involve a twist were cartoon characters are real life beings and work for the studios like actors, yeah that's what families should be watching with their little ones lol. Most of the jokes are either double meanings over sex or really dark as well.
The one thing that bothered me most in that film and I still shudder over now is that little cartoon boot that gets thrown in the goo near the beginning.

Ha!

That is so strange, I can almost recall what you're talking about but not really...

I remember a very intricate scene with the talking/walking baby.