Must You Pay Council Tax?

[moonflower]

Just thinking what says I have to pay council tax if I buy a bit of land, build a house on it and deal with my own rubbish etc?

What is it that actually says you must pay it?

M

[the worm that turned]

Just thinking what says I have to pay council tax if I buy a bit of land, build a house on it and deal with my own rubbish etc?

What is it that actually says you must pay it?

M

Government legislation states that persons have to pay council tax. Try searching for council tax act on opsi website (or google)

Up to you whether you understand it (stand under it)

[platform7]

It depends if you consider youself a PERSON.
I can't think of anything being more reprehensible myself :eek:

[tracker]

Just thinking what says I have to pay council tax if I buy a bit of land, build a house on it and deal with my own rubbish etc?

What is it that actually says you must pay it?

M


erm , yes you will because council tax is based on land ownership .

by the time youve payed 1000s for a tiny piece you may as well pay your council tax .

sounds to me as though (like the freeman of the land ---dreamers ) youve been duped into thinking that some how you will escape taxes .

I dont like the system ---------but I do know I have to deal with it .

like the person above this reply just look at their answer . too much freeman of the land garbage .

whether or not you define your self as a person by law or not --------you will have to pay taxes . dont listen to their mumbo jumbo .
many people have lost houses and homes over this crap because they desided it was a good idea not to reply to bills because they were made out in capital letters ( which is used for busniess names ) and thought some how that this made them immune .

sadly it didnt and now they pay the price .



:)

[theoneandonly]

erm , yes you will because council tax is based on land ownership .

by the time youve payed 1000s for a tiny piece you may as well pay your council tax .

sounds to me as though (like the freeman of the land ---dreamers ) youve been duped into thinking that some how you will escape taxes .

I dont like the system ---------but I do know I have to deal with it .

like the person above this reply just look at their answer . too much freeman of the land garbage .

whether or not you define your self as a person by law or not --------you will have to pay taxes . dont listen to their mumbo jumbo .
many people have lost houses and homes over this crap because they desided it was a good idea not to reply to bills because they were made out in capital letters ( which is used for busniess names ) and thought some how that this made them immune .

sadly it didnt and now they pay the price .



:)

No offense but why do you post in the freeman-on-the-land forum when you have no knowledge of it.. and therefore are no help to people :confused:

[tracker]

No offense but why do you post in the freeman-on-the-land forum when you have no knowledge of it.. and therefore are no help to people :confused:

I have just helped them , I have told them that they will have too pay council tax .

sounds to me like I have given sound advice .

Yet you have posted to me and not them ------tus you have not given any advice .

exactly what was the point on that then ? iether help them or dont post on this thread .

:cool:

[theoneandonly]

I have just helped them , I have told them that they will have too pay council tax .

sounds to me like I have given sound advice .

Yet you have posted to me and not them ------tus you have not given any advice .

exactly what was the point on that then ? iether help them or dont post on this thread .

:cool:

i think you will find my advice to the OP was to not read your post :cool:

[tracker]

i think you will find my advice to the OP was to not read your post :cool:

so yet again nothing to say for the issue on paying council tax .
typical reaction from you not to tackle the issue but to find arguement .

AND ?????????????????

do you have some advice on the issue of "paying council tax" or not ?

[theoneandonly]

Just thinking what says I have to pay council tax if I buy a bit of land, build a house on it and deal with my own rubbish etc?

What is it that actually says you must pay it?

M

http://www.tpuc.org/content/wirral-council-%E2%80%93-admits-council-tax-unlawf

Obviously i dont know how much you know about being a freeman-on-the-land but something like not paying council tax is quite a complicated process to successfully achieve (but as you can see from the link it has been done), and requires a lot of research.

Hope that helps :)

[merlincove]

so yet again nothing to say for the issue on paying council tax .
typical reaction from you not to tackle the issue but to find arguement .

AND ?????????????????

do you have some advice on the issue of "paying council tax" or not ?

ffs, tracker.

You rubbish the entire freeman concepts and have absolutely no understanding of it.

Please, if you are going to give worthwhile responses, study the generic aspects of what you are saying.

In respect of the OP...

There is no law that says you have to pay council tax. The legislation in place is a Statute law, an Act of Parliament. It says if you own a property with a roof then you have to pay council tax to the local authority.

Take a look at the legislation yourself and you will see the wording.

So far so meh, eh? :D

Firstly the legislation is an Act of parliament. An Act - the clue is in the name ;)

It is not a law, it is a Statute. Statutes and Laws are two very different things. Anyone who tells you differently, especially a police officer or other official is wrong and committing gross misconduct - committing a crime which is eqwual to fraud within common law.

Basically yes, you will have to pay council tax if you are a member of society to which the statute law applies. The statute law is a company policy enacted through parliament for all company employees to adhere to.

If you are a company employee, i.e. if you are a member of the society who is governed by parliament you have to pay the taxes it declares.

Just the same as if you work for a company then you have to abide by that companies policies.

So, what can you do?

Firstly you can resign from the company, and then you will not have to work to its policies.

Doing that is very simple.

Search for 'notice of understanding and intent' on the internets and learn how to write one.

Study it as much as you can till you full comprehend what it is, what it means and how it will change your life.

When you fully comprehend it, write one.

Get it notarised, send it to the relevant people.

The relevant people are: the council, your local MP, the houses of parliament, the House of Lords, the local police, your mum and one to solicitors for safe keeping.

What you have just done with your notice of understanding, if you did it properly and correctly, is you have to all intents and purposes resigned from being an employee of Great Britain PLC, or whatever it is called nowadays.

All the company policies (statutes) no longer apply to you and you will be subject only to Common Law.

Nowhere in Common Law does it say that you have to pay taxes. Any taxes.

The council will send you a bill. Reply with a conditional offer of acceptance and ask for the proof of their claim that you owe them the tax. Ask for a copy of the contract that you signed (doesn't exist) and ask them for a bill (they will not be able to provide one) and keep conditionally accepting under proof of claim. Then hit them with a notice of estoppel when they have not supplied the proofs of claim as per your request: you will now be in both a lawful and legal position to say 'i do not owe you this money.'

It is a long learning curve, but one that is well worth it.

Don't listen to BS, do your research and apply your learning to your life.

i don't pay council tax, i don't pay income tax (no one has the right to take any percentage of my earnings without my consent).

And above all, be prepared to fight for your right to be free.

People will try and stop you.

Uneducated people will try and keep you from gaining your freedoms. Don’t allow them to.

This is not legal advice, btw, i'm not a solicitor, i am not allowed to give legal advice. But it is advice that can show you how you can become free.

Best of luck buddy.

[tracker]

ffs, tracker.


There is no law that says you have to pay council tax.

Ok , after that long response I have shortened it to this ^^^^.

Fine

there is no law on paying council tax .

good luck

oh ? I take it by your remark ----you DONT pay council tax ?

well well well , someone who stands by their word .

well done , You have my deepest respect . I do respect those who stand by their word .

For the record , no one escapes taxes unless they spend years in prison , but then I could be wrong .

but hay , im not angry ----------------Im quite taken by this that we dont have to pay it .

tell us how ----you dont pay yours , and we will follow suit .You need not think that we will pay money if we didnt have too .
just give us the knowledge and how you did it .
Im sure some here will folllow suit , I know I will .

I eegerly await ---------how you have done it your self .

It will help us if you supply letters of bills , caurt action , and how you beat them , it will after all help us see better how you have chieved this , and will give better credability for action .

:)

[tracker]

Just thinking what says I have to pay council tax if I buy a bit of land, build a house on it and deal with my own rubbish etc?

What is it that actually says you must pay it?

M

Ok Ok I might not be the best at tact when asnwering , but look at the problems people have when listening to those who give out fantasies .
they listened too much to others about how to ignore letters in block capitals etc , now they are loosing their home , and yet still more folk tell them not to pay or bla bla bla bla its all an illusion .

If those people are right -----hands up to them ----------let them show how THEY THEM SELF ---------DONT PAY
COUNCIL TAX
RENT
ELECTRIC
GAS
WATER

where is their PROOF when they give all this out ?

do they show YOU how THEY ----------DONT -----------PAY ?

just remember that before reading this link .

look at their losses .

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89956

bet ya its all to do with --------------- this phylosophy you are asking for .
and it is too -------just read it , they took that advice long ago ---and now face being a homeless family at christmas .
now those who gave them that phylosophy can congratulate them self for helping to make a family homeless at christmas .well done chaps , woopy do .

[picha]

ffs, tracker.

You rubbish the entire freeman concepts and have absolutely no understanding of it.

Please, if you are going to give worthwhile responses, study the generic aspects of what you are saying.

In respect of the OP...

There is no law that says you have to pay council tax. The legislation in place is a Statute law, an Act of Parliament. It says if you own a property with a roof then you have to pay council tax to the local authority.

Take a look at the legislation yourself and you will see the wording.

So far so meh, eh? :D

Firstly the legislation is an Act of parliament. An Act - the clue is in the name ;)

It is not a law, it is a Statute. Statutes and Laws are two very different things. Anyone who tells you differently, especially a police officer or other official is wrong and committing gross misconduct - committing a crime which is eqwual to fraud within common law.

Basically yes, you will have to pay council tax if you are a member of society to which the statute law applies. The statute law is a company policy enacted through parliament for all company employees to adhere to.

If you are a company employee, i.e. if you are a member of the society who is governed by parliament you have to pay the taxes it declares.

Just the same as if you work for a company then you have to abide by that companies policies.

So, what can you do?

Firstly you can resign from the company, and then you will not have to work to its policies.

Doing that is very simple.

Search for 'notice of understanding and intent' on the internets and learn how to write one.

Study it as much as you can till you full comprehend what it is, what it means and how it will change your life.

When you fully comprehend it, write one.

Get it notarised, send it to the relevant people.

The relevant people are: the council, your local MP, the houses of parliament, the House of Lords, the local police, your mum and one to solicitors for safe keeping.

What you have just done with your notice of understanding, if you did it properly and correctly, is you have to all intents and purposes resigned from being an employee of Great Britain PLC, or whatever it is called nowadays.

All the company policies (statutes) no longer apply to you and you will be subject only to Common Law.

Nowhere in Common Law does it say that you have to pay taxes. Any taxes.

The council will send you a bill. Reply with a conditional offer of acceptance and ask for the proof of their claim that you owe them the tax. Ask for a copy of the contract that you signed (doesn't exist) and ask them for a bill (they will not be able to provide one) and keep conditionally accepting under proof of claim. Then hit them with a notice of estoppel when they have not supplied the proofs of claim as per your request: you will now be in both a lawful and legal position to say 'i do not owe you this money.'

It is a long learning curve, but one that is well worth it.

Don't listen to BS, do your research and apply your learning to your life.

i don't pay council tax, i don't pay income tax (no one has the right to take any percentage of my earnings without my consent).

And above all, be prepared to fight for your right to be free.

People will try and stop you.

Uneducated people will try and keep you from gaining your freedoms. Don’t allow them to.

This is not legal advice, btw, i'm not a solicitor, i am not allowed to give legal advice. But it is advice that can show you how you can become free.

Best of luck buddy.

Im not asking this to be annoying but you say in your post that the council will send you a bill and then say we should ask them for a bill. Did you mean to say something else there?

[tracker]

Im not asking this to be annoying but you say in your post that the council will send you a bill and then say we should ask them for a bill. Did you mean to say something else there?

Im sure they are attempting to make good here , But surely its better to provide a step by step proof of how ---------THEY-THEM SELF-------- HAVE BEATEN THE CAURTS .

letters , county caurt summons -----------what laws they used to defend their case .

you know --------------the proof that they adopt the same info they give out .

this would really help folks deal with those big brother fkers .

:)

[theoneandonly]

Im sure they are attempting to make good here , But surely its better to provide a step by step proof of how ---------THEY-THEM SELF-------- HAVE BEATEN THE CAURTS .

letters , county caurt summons -----------what laws they used to defend their case .

you know --------------the proof that they adopt the same info they give out .

this would really help folks deal with those big brother fkers .

:)

i gave proof... here is the link again incase you have not read it fully...

http://www.tpuc.org/content/wirral-council-%E2%80%93-admits-council-tax-unlawf

[merlincove]

Ok , after that long response I have shortened it to this ^^^^.

Fine

there is no law on paying council tax .

good luck

oh ? I take it by your remark ----you DONT pay council tax ?

well well well , someone who stands by their word .

well done , You have my deepest respect . I do respect those who stand by their word .

For the record , no one escapes taxes unless they spend years in prison , but then I could be wrong .

but hay , im not angry ----------------Im quite taken by this that we dont have to pay it .

tell us how ----you dont pay yours , and we will follow suit .You need not think that we will pay money if we didnt have too .
just give us the knowledge and how you did it .
Im sure some here will folllow suit , I know I will .

I eegerly await ---------how you have done it your self .

:)

lol, tracker :D

if you read the last paragraph of my post you'd see where it said:

i don't pay council tax, i don't pay income tax (no one has the right to take any percentage of my earnings without my consent).

:D

ok, i have never paid a penny in poll tax or councol tax in over 15 years.

i have never been to prison for not paying it :D

i have explained the method in my post.

It is up to you, and whoever else wants to attend their self's to this journey to read and research and learn all they can about the concepts of freeman and peaceful none cooperation. Once that road is travelled, it will afford the traveller a great wealth of information and self empowerment. I can not and will not attend that journey for you nor anyone else, for if i did then the self empowerment process (which is all important) will be lost.

Re-read my post, the bare bones are there, it is up to you, if you wish, to apply the rest of the equasion to meter its worth and applicable merits.

Like life, there is no short cut to knowledge my friend, it is up to each individual to learn the process so they can benefit from it.

:D

[tracker]

lol, tracker :D

if you read the last paragraph of my post you'd see where it said:



:D

ok, i have never paid a penny in poll tax or councol tax in over 15 years.

i have never been to prison for not paying it :D

i have explained the method in my post.

It is up to you, and whoever else wants to attend their self's to this journey to read and research and learn all they can about the concepts of freeman and peaceful none cooperation. Once that road is travelled, it will afford the traveller a great wealth of information and self empowerment. I can not and will not attend that journey for you nor anyone else, for if i did then the self empowerment process (which is all important) will be lost.

Re-read my post, the bare bones are there, it is up to you, if you wish, to apply the rest of the equasion to meter its worth and applicable merits.

Like life, there is no short cut to knowledge my friend, it is up to each individual to learn the process so they can benefit from it.

:D


I am so seriousely going to get that knowledge , -------------:D

I am glad you made it work ----------- so meees plans to do the same .

it might take a while to find out how but I will .

:)

[tracker]

i gave proof... here is the link again incase you have not read it fully...

http://www.tpuc.org/content/wirral-council-%E2%80%93-admits-council-tax-unlawf

this link shows on my PC nothing but blank pages concerning those laws etc .

how am I to make sense of rpoof that I cannot read ? it goes to a blank page saying this page etc etc .
is it my PC software ?

:)

[theoneandonly]

this link shows on my PC nothing but blank pages concerning those laws etc .

how am I to make sense of rpoof that I cannot read ? it goes to a blank page saying this page etc etc .
is it my PC software ?

:)

hmm thats strange it worked for me when i posted the link.. it doesnt now :confused:

Actually i think it has something to do with the site it was originally posted on not working ( http://www.nocounciltax.com/ ) i take it that site does not work for you either?

Damn hope its up soon.. its a really good read!!

[tracker]

hmm thats strange it worked for me when i posted the link.. it doesnt now :confused:

Actually i think it has something to do with the site it was originally posted on not working ( http://www.nocounciltax.com/ ) i take it that site does not work for you either?

Damn hope its up soon.. its a really good read!!


I did go to the freeman of the land .com .

whilst admitting I am intrequed it doesnt surprise me why other sites may have problems .

it does seem like a long winded way , a long dragg through law .

I kight give it a seriouse read some day , but at the moment it all seems like one has to be a soliciter to read it .

I hope that I find some easy to understand tactics to use as a means of defnese and freedom .

:)

[merlincove]

I am so seriousely going to get that knowledge , -------------:D

I am glad you made it work ----------- so meees plans to do the same .

it might take a while to find out how but I will .

:)

it is all on here, in the freeman threads, and on tpuc (tho i find their forum hard work)

you can learn to overstand the game at fmotl.com too, i'm sure you've been there.

The answers are there, they just need finding, and it is a long journey :rolleyes:

You may even become a freeman advocate yet :D

[breezinreezin]

Post deleted. How incredibly petty this place gets.

[Ian2day]

Some groups are exempt from council tax.

[sharky2508]

[QUOTE=merlincove;1058391886]ffs, tracker.


The relevant people are: the council, your local MP, the houses of parliament, the House of Lords, the local police, your mum and one to solicitors for safe keeping.

when you say send one to your mum are you joking or being serious - i have heard that advice before and wondered the reason behind it??

[merlincove]

[QUOTE=merlincove;1058391886]ffs, tracker.


The relevant people are: the council, your local MP, the houses of parliament, the House of Lords, the local police, your mum and one to solicitors for safe keeping.

when you say send one to your mum are you joking or being serious - i have heard that advice before and wondered the reason behind it??

lol :D

At least if your mum has one, you have it on reord :D

That is the important aspect, to make sure that you tell EVERY agency that you send your NOUCOR to puts your Notice of Understanding and the relevant fee schedule on record.

That requirement for the agencies to do so should be highlighted within the document, and for any future correspondance one then simply states that they are acting in accordance with the notice of understanding and Intent and Claim of right that is on record.

i include, send on to your mum, as humour really, but yes, it has been mentioned before by more learned folk than i, and i can't see any reason why not to send one to your mum, if only as an act of courtesy :D

With the effect of the Notice, ones name is changed from John Bon jovi to john: of the Bon Jovi family, or similar and the name forms a part of the Notice as one is commonly called: John, and ones family is bon jovi, for example.

And as such, it is nice to let your mum know that you've changed your name :D

[yozhik]

so yet again nothing to say for the issue on paying council tax .
typical reaction from you not to tackle the issue but to find arguement .

AND ?????????????????

do you have some advice on the issue of "paying council tax" or not ?

A recent COURT CASE [legal precedent] involving the Wirral Council might be of interest to you.

It was featured on this forum a while back.
Bottom line, the council tax did not have to be paid.