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rollotomaz1
04-11-2009, 05:33 PM
I was just speaking to a guy I know who has a business in our town, who was in the first gulf war/Iraq, and I had noticed a few times he was very stiff when he stood up, IO asked him what was wrong with him and he said he wasn't really sure but pointed towards his time in the arny in the early 90's.
After a few times of talking together I asked him if he might have what is known as Gulf war syndrome, and he said probably, he said probably because the MOD don't recognise the disease caused by a specifict drug/s.
When he was waitng in port to go out to the battle field, now get this, they gave everybody six injections all at once,
It wasn't until a year later that his symptoms took hold, like arthritis but on and off and left his vioce permanatly damaged, they medically discharged him not saying what exactly was wrong with him.
bones
04-11-2009, 06:01 PM
tell him to look at squalean....
its added to vaccines during the gulf war.
suprising enough its in the swine flu shot too. :eek:
white rabbit
04-11-2009, 06:09 PM
checking wikipedia about GWS i found this
Anthrax vaccine
During Operation Desert Storm, 41% of U.S. combat soldiers and 57-75% of UK combat soldiers were vaccinated against anthrax.[16] The early 1990s version of the anthrax vaccine was a source of several side effects. Like all vaccines, it often caused local skin reactions, some lasting for weeks or months.[17] While the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved the vaccine, it never went through large scale clinical trials, unlike almost all other vaccines in the United States.[18]
One study found that deployed Persian Gulf War Syndrome patients are significantly more likely to have antibodies to the vaccine adjuvant squalene (95 percent) than asymptomatic Gulf War veterans (0 percent; p<.001), [19] which raises the possibility that squalene was used experimentally (squalene is not approved for use as an adjuvant in the United States[20]) in the Anthrax vaccine given to soldiers prior to deployment in the Persian Gulf War to better induce immunity. However, the study concludes with the following statement: "It is important to note that our laboratory-based investigations do not establish that squalene was added as adjuvant to any vaccine used in military or other personnel who served in the Persian Gulf War era."[21] A later study reported that many humans have squalene antibodies in their blood, regardless of whether or not they received squalene from a vaccination.[22] Subsequent investigation revealed that the study in question, which attempted to link squalene to Gulf War Syndrome, had several technical deficiencies in the way in which it analyzed its data. On top of this, it has been determined that the anthrax vaccines given to those US military personnel, did not use squalene as an adjuvant [8].
The potential implication that the Anthrax vaccine given to soldiers immediately prior to the Gulf War was correlated with Persian Gulf War Syndrome prompted the Department of Defense to task the Armed Forces Epidemiological Board (AFEB) to review Asa, Cao, & Garry's methods. The AFEB found several shortcomings that called into question the validity of the results; namely questionable positive controls, the unproven specificity of the ASA assay, and the potential that the researchers were not blind in their knowledge of patient illness/wellness. [23]
The Department of Defense published a study in 2009 which found no relationship between squalene antibodies and symptoms. The researchers concluded "We found no association between squalene antibody status and chronic multisymptom illness. The etiology of Gulf War syndrome remains unknown, but should not include squalene antibody status."[24]
Research into the vaccine used after 1997 suggests that specific vaccine lots used in immunization during the Anthrax Vaccine Immunization Program program initiated in 1997 likely contain squalene because " the incidence of [anti-squalene antibodies] in personnel in the blinded study receiving these lots was 47% (8/17) compared to an incidence of 0% (0/8; P < 0.025) of the AVIP participants receiving other lots of vaccine."[25]
Even after the war, troops that had never been deployed overseas, after receiving the anthrax vaccine, developed symptoms similar to those of Persian Gulf War Syndrome. The Pentagon failed to report to Congress 20,000 cases where soldiers were hospitalized after receiving the vaccine between 1998 and 2000.[26]
Despite repeated assurances that the vaccine was safe and necessary, a U.S. Federal Judge ruled that there was good cause to believe it was harmful, and he ordered the Pentagon to stop administering it in October 2004.[27] The ban was lifted in February 2008 after the FDA re-examined and approved the drug again. Anthrax vaccine is the only substance suspected in Persian Gulf War syndrome to which forced exposure has since been banned to protect troops from it.[28]
Subsequent anthrax vaccines, however, have met with approval. On December 15, 2005, the Food and Drug Administration, released a Final Order finding that the current anthrax vaccines are safe and effective.[29][30][31] The anthrax vaccine currently used is not the same vaccine that was issued during the First Gulf War.[32]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War_syndrome
similar brain problems to GWS are in cases of cervical cancer vaccine and swine flu vaccine
Courtesy Brasschecktv.com
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/16.html
The US military has a long tradition of using its soldiers as medical guinea pigs.
In recent years, with the involvement of pharmaceutical executives like Donald Rumsfeld with the Department of Defense, the trend has accelerated. Now hundreds of thousands of US servicemen and women receive vaccines that are untested and experimental in nature.
On October 16, 2006, the Department of Defense announced that it will resume its previously court-halted anthrax vaccination program and that troops who do not agree to receive the six-injection series voluntarily will be faced with disciplinary action.
Untested vaccinations are believed to be one of the source of Gulf War Illness, a crippling condition which disabled tens of thousands of soldiers after the first Gulf War.
Stop poisoning our troops with untested vaccines - YouTube
To learn more, visit this site: www.beyondtreason.com.
lightgiver
04-11-2009, 06:40 PM
I was just speaking to a guy I know who has a business in our town, who was in the first gulf war/Iraq, and I had noticed a few times he was very stiff when he stood up, IO asked him what was wrong with him and he said he wasn't really sure but pointed towards his time in the arny in the early 90's.
After a few times of talking together I asked him if he might have what is known as Gulf war syndrome, and he said probably, he said probably because the MOD don't recognise the disease caused by a specifict drug/s.
When he was waitng in port to go out to the battle field, now get this, they gave everybody six injections all at once,
It wasn't until a year later that his symptoms took hold, like arthritis but on and off and left his vioce permanatly damaged, they medically discharged him not saying what exactly was wrong with him.
Hi rollotomaz 1
The Injections are were not given all at once,I had them also,we were given 2 lots of anthrax along side NAPS tablets which were taken every few hours or so but were discontinued after a few weeks due to the low threat of chemical weapons, but I am sure soldiers and civilians a like were contaminated when saddams stockpiles were blown up, besides the aforementioned injections many others were given previous to deployment,pin cushion comes to mind;)
No Doubt they pumped some nasty stuff into us, as with all these matters the governments and like just hope it all goes away.
Your mate may be stiff due to age?I am not ruling out GWS though.
Peace LG:)
rollotomaz1
04-11-2009, 10:56 PM
Hi rollotomaz 1
The Injections are were not given all at once,I had them also,we were given 2 lots of anthrax along side NAPS tablets which were taken every few hours or so but were discontinued after a few weeks due to the low threat of chemical weapons, but I am sure soldiers and civilians a like were contaminated when saddams stockpiles were blown up, besides the aforementioned injections many others were given previous to deployment,pin cushion comes to mind;)
No Doubt they pumped some nasty stuff into us, as with all these matters the governments and like just hope it all goes away.
Your mate may be stiff due to age?I am not ruling out GWS though.
Peace LG:)
My friend was a very fit before he had the jabs which were six in all whilst waiting at the port he says, after he had them he felt very ill and after a few days he recovered, now he is 39 and walks around some days like an 85 years old, some days he can hardly talk.
He knows what is wrong with him and how he become like this, but gets nowhere and has given up trying, he got a medically discharged through this mysterious illness and now simply wants to get on with what time he has left.
lightgiver
06-11-2009, 10:33 PM
My friend was a very fit before he had the jabs which were six in all whilst waiting at the port he says, after he had them he felt very ill and after a few days he recovered, now he is 39 and walks around some days like an 85 years old, some days he can hardly talk.
He knows what is wrong with him and how he become like this, but gets nowhere and has given up trying, he got a medically discharged through this mysterious illness and now simply wants to get on with what time he has left.
I hope your friend gets well soon,I appear to be OK but you never know.
I would recommend trying to use some de tox products to flush out his liver and a blood cleanse,all organic,do some research;)
http://www.liverdoctor.com/index.php?page=liver-detoxification
http://www.thecompletedetox.com/
http://hubpages.com/hub/Liver-Detox-and-Cleanse---Natural-Options
http://www.healingdaily.com/detoxification-diet/bentonite-clay.htm
I reckon I am due one also.;)
bulletproofheart
06-11-2009, 10:38 PM
Well his choice was made with the emotional propinquity.
War is a rainfall with no rain.I would reccomend trying relaxed emotional ditachment.
lightgiver
07-11-2009, 02:44 AM
Avoid Dr pepper at all costs :eek::D
Avoid Dr pepper at all costs :eek::D
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lightgiver
07-11-2009, 09:13 PM
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Just a little sense of humour from another thread :D have to keep the spirits up.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90099