All UK must be on a DNA data base!!!

[brotherapostate]

Welcome to the Police State UK

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6979138.stm

The whole population and every UK visitor should be added to the national DNA database, a senior judge has said.

Lord Justice Sedley said the current database, which holds DNA from crime suspects and scenes, was "indefensible" because it was unfair and inconsistent.

He told BBC News an expanded database would also aid crime prevention. Four million profiles are currently held.

Critics say those who commit certain offences should have their details removed after a set period.

The DNA database - which is 12 years old - grows by 30,000 samples a month taken from suspects or recovered from crime scenes. It is the largest in the world.

[cf24]

Well the judge can go do one! just look at him in that get up, looks like a bloody spaniel with that wig on.....

[brotherapostate]

Does anybody know why they where those things?

[cheesedanish]

Why do judges and barristers wear wigs?
English judicial attire in its present form dates from about 1660, the time of the Restoration of the English monarchy. Upon the return of Charles II from France, the fashion of the Court of Louis XIV for powdered wigs became de rigueur for the smart members of English society. Since England had just emerged from a bloody civil war between those who wore their hair short (the "Roundheads") and those who wore their hair long (the "Royalists"), the pervasive use of wigs was an obvious way to cover over the divisions in society. In short, English judges and barristers began wearing wigs and robes because everybody in polite society was wearing wigs and robes in those days. They continue to wear them because nobody has ever told them to stop.
Source (http://www.thevervoid.com/spoon/questions.htm)

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[julieray]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6979138.stm

Has anyone seen the news today on the BBC website regarding the DNA database??:eek: I think it is an attempt to put the feelers out to see what the masses think of this idea. Yet another civil liberty/human right removed from us if this goes ahead!

[1 2 free]

Why do judges and barristers wear wigs?
English judicial attire in its present form dates from about 1660, the time of the Restoration of the English monarchy. Upon the return of Charles II from France, the fashion of the Court of Louis XIV for powdered wigs became de rigueur for the smart members of English society. Since England had just emerged from a bloody civil war between those who wore their hair short (the "Roundheads") and those who wore their hair long (the "Royalists"), the pervasive use of wigs was an obvious way to cover over the divisions in society. In short, English judges and barristers began wearing wigs and robes because everybody in polite society was wearing wigs and robes in those days. They continue to wear them because nobody has ever told them to stop.
Source (http://www.thevervoid.com/spoon/questions.htm)

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I heard a slightly different story. The UK judges wear wigs to make them all look the same so it's not individuals with their own opinions, prejudices, etc but just a judge.

This DNA database thing is a great example of the 'stepping stone technique' or the 'totalitarian tiptoe'. The started off just collecting DNA of the hardcore criminals and then slowly spread it out until it was anyone charged with a crime, then anyone arrested, then anyone stopped by the poilice, then anyone who was with someone who got stopped by the police and now we've reached the point where it's EVERYONE!!!

Fuck it though. I'm thankful that they're exposing their agenda day by day. My non conspiracy theorist friends and family have really changed their views over the last few years and are waking up more rapididly with every day. I'm quite dazzled by the change. With every fascist news story, with every new law passed, with every new intrusion into their lives they wake up a little more. :)

[kblood]

All in the UK quite possible already is in a DNA database, just not officially. So they cannot use it for crime investigation. I think this is about making it possible to use for criminal investigations.

[lottie]

Yeah ive often wondered if they store DNA from blood samples- regardless of why, just coz its a new bit of DNA for the data base, ive had many blood tests, smears,swabs, etc etc over the years, ive also given blood the last few yrs, what happens to it all? can i trust these people to destroy it after? i dont think so.....

Ive never been arressted (touch wood) for anything so havnt had my DNA taken as mandatory and stored but im sure 'they' have it stored regardless.....

[lookfar]

Yeah I agree that it's an attempt to guage reactions to yet another civil liberty being removed!!:mad: I'm sure this will be implemented soon, despite them saying otherwise. They're hitting us from all angles at the moment & it's not good!!

[dark86]

today some Lord Justice guy said all of the UK need to go on this DB. when leaving or entering an airport you get a swab.

i would refuse this but if this stopped me flying i would be very very pissed.

[lumukanda]

they're using the crime in south africa as an excuse to get that started here in south africa, a story was shown on a local program called 'carte blanche', basically someone's dad was murdered and she's now campaigning for a DNA database, the segment ended with the interviewer saying, "well i can't imagine why anyone with nothing to hide would be opposed to be being on the database." the oldest one in the book.

[joss classey]

there is no need to fear

change is coming

[december]

Welcome to the Police State UK

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6979138.stm

The British people deserve their government...

[julieray]

there is no need to fear

change is coming

What form will this change be in and when will this be exactly??? Are you talking about 21st December 2012 the end of the Mayan Calendar???:confused::)

[tinmenace]

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/emotes/loserr.gif

The British people deserve their government...

Hater

[lu tze]

Very telling that the day that a senior judge anounces that all UK citizens and UK visitors should be on a DNA database German police swoop on a massive bomb plot involving home grown german nationals who have converted to Islam.

I guess we are going to be Soooo surprised at how these people dont look like typical muslim terrorists.

That DNA database along with a National ID card is going to be the best way of protecting the public from these henous killers

[steevo]

They want DNA from us all, not for solving crime but for some other secret purpose, so they can use it against us as a weapon.

Also, we know that the illuminati are paedophiles, they could use the reliance on DNA to abduct children.

They could "obtain" a skeleton of a 3 year old child for example and use the DNA (which will be on the database) to "proove" that a child THEY HAVE ABDUCTED is that skeleton when in fact it is not. The child they have abducted then is still alive and in their hands and is no longer missing.

I know this all sounds crazy but the illuminati are sociopaths who would do ANYTHING.

I dont trust DNA evidence. We are relying too much on DNA for solving crimes when in fact DNA on it's own is not sufficent to use on its own in a court of law. I'm sure the illuminati will change the laws to cater for this.

[hagbard_celine]

Very telling that the day that a senior judge anounces that all UK citizens and UK visitors should be on a DNA database German police swoop on a massive bomb plot involving home grown german nationals who have converted to Islam.

I guess we are going to be Soooo surprised at how these people dont look like typical muslim terrorists.

That DNA database along with a National ID card is going to be the best way of protecting the public from these henous killers

Yes indeed! How many coincidences have to pile up before the public realize that coincidences they ain't.

Obvioiusly many will refuse to provide specimens, including I bet most forum members, but the problem is that the police can always do it easily. Unfortunately getting your DNA profile is very easy because technically they only need a single cell from your body and your body sheds millions of cells a day. They're pouring off your body like a shower as we speak! Most house dust is dead skin cells! So if you go into a police station to singn a form saying you refuse to donate a DNA sample they just swab the paper of the form and the pen you used to sign it and get your DNA from that.

[bicycle]

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/emotes/loserr.gif



Hater








Whats so funny, I've heard Icke express a similer oponion:confused:

[tinmenace]

Whats so funny, I've heard Icke express a similer oponion:confused:

That they "DESERVE" it?

Not said in the same context, I'm sure of it. December is a hater. David is not. Leeeetle bit of a difference there. :rolleyes:

[dondaz]

They can get many things from our DNA, like cures, and keep them for themselves. They could also quite possibly find ways to kills us off based on our dna structure.

December is a paid NWO shill.

[tinmenace]

They can get many things from our DNA, like cures, and keep them for themselves. They could also quite possibly find ways to kills us off based on our dna structure.

December is a paid NWO shill.

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/avatars/snicker.gif (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4843)

Did you know that there are two Decembers?

[dondaz]

Did you know that there are two Decembers?

The month and the troll?

[dondaz]

Ah, yes, should have been posted on his white horse thread, or the photo thread:D

[ladyjane]

Good Morning my friends, this is my first post as I signed up today. I am happy to be here on the forum at last.

This story links back to the Madeleine McCann disappearance (see separate thread). Madeleine’s tragic disappearance has now been used to justify both microchipping and the DNA database to the sheeple. Note how the Judge’s call for universal microchipping hit the headlines and then THE VERY NEXT DAY the story breaks that Madeleine’s DNA has been found on a car seat and this will lead to an arrest (the fact that the accused is her mother is a new twist). No coincidence on the timing. The Daily Mail even runs an online poll “should everyone be microchipped?” on the same day. Lo and behold we have a 50-50 yes-no split in the result.

Watch this space, it will only be a matter of days before the sheeple are falling over themselves to be at the front of the queue to have their DNA stolen “because of that little girl!!” and anyone who dares voice concern over this will be branded as sick and uncaring.

[quester123]

Good Morning my friends, this is my first post as I signed up today. I am happy to be here on the forum at last.

This story links back to the Madeleine McCann disappearance (see separate thread). Madeleine’s tragic disappearance has now been used to justify both microchipping and the DNA database to the sheeple. Note how the Judge’s call for universal microchipping hit the headlines and then THE VERY NEXT DAY the story breaks that Madeleine’s DNA has been found on a car seat and this will lead to an arrest (the fact that the accused is her mother is a new twist). No coincidence on the timing. The Daily Mail even runs an online poll “should everyone be microchipped?” on the same day. Lo and behold we have a 50-50 yes-no split in the result.

Watch this space, it will only be a matter of days before the sheeple are falling over themselves to be at the front of the queue to have their DNA stolen “because of that little girl!!” and anyone who dares voice concern over this will be branded as sick and uncaring



Hello & welcome to the forum ladyjane :)
I hardly ever post on here myself, but I have to say that I couldn't agree with you more. After the original UK DNA database article was first mentioned on the BBC website. Curious of public opinion, I spent a number of hours reading through thousands of messages pouring onto the BBC site "have your say"
about the DNA debate. The site is very heavily moderated, yet thousands were writing in and objecting to the database. It was interesting to watch...
& I felt at the time, that is was all about "testing the waters"

However since then, there has been a week of media emphasis about murdered kids, gun crime, knife crime, taser guns allowed to be used on children & now the latest Madeleine twist... One thing which is not hitting the headlines is that biometrics are quietly being introduced into even more UK schools.
With this recent media emphasis, many parents could quite easily go along with the scheme, without question...

I shall be keeping a close watch on next weeks "have your own say" debates on the BBC website.

[julieray]

Well I will have to settle for being sick and uncaring then!!!

The trouble with providing your DNA to be placed on the database, who has access to this database and what will they do with it? We all know those at the top are corrupt and down right criminal, so why would we possibly expect them to use it in a "greater good" kind of way. It's not going to happen.

[ladyjane]

Hi quester and JulieRay :)

Yes, with someone's DNA they could synthethise chemicals or viruses that target specific sections of the population, as dondaz mentioned above.

Also, I think this obsession with wanting everyone's DNA is to do with being able to locate those would succeed in activating their full complement of 12 strand DNA. If the agents for the Powers That Be can spot who raises their consciousness through their DNA then maybe they have plans to target them, because they would be pioneers, at the forefront of our collective consciousness evolution? Who knows? But I think there is a link here.

[ladyjane]

Read Appendix I of "Infinite Love is the Only Truth...", entitled "Human DNA is a Biological Internet say Russian Scientists".

In summary, we know that DNA acts as a transmitter and receiver of vibrational frequencies. David has been saying this for some time. The Russian scientists have demonstrated this in the laboratory. Focusing primarily on the 90%+ of our DNA that does not encode proteins, the so-called 'junk DNA' they discovered that DNA is used in data storage and communication, acting as an organic superconductor. DNA's ability to communication information can be influenced through the use of radio waves and laser rays. As humans, we have the ability to use our DNA for hypercommunication (communication beyond 5 sense reality) and intuition (knowing) by modulating the frequency of our DNA.

Read the Appendix for more detail.

Going back to the plan for a universal DNA database.... the lizards (whatever you want to call them) are VERY interested in our DNA. Why? Nothing to do with crime fighting. DNA matching is ineffective and flawed, there are plenty of examples of DNA matching not being accurate.

So Why? Because the DNA is the key to our consciousness evolution. If they can get there first then they plan to stop us from attaining Divine consciousness. Simple really.

One last point, does anyone know if Indigos have a different DNA structure?

[julieray]

Read Appendix I of "Infinite Love is the Only Truth...", entitled "Human DNA is a Biological Internet say Russian Scientists".

In summary, we know that DNA acts as a transmitter and receiver of vibrational frequencies. David has been saying this for some time. The Russian scientists have demonstrated this in the laboratory. Focusing primarily on the 90%+ of our DNA that does not encode proteins, the so-called 'junk DNA' they discovered that DNA is used in data storage and communication, acting as an organic superconductor. DNA's ability to communication information can be influenced through the use of radio waves and laser rays. As humans, we have the ability to use our DNA for hypercommunication (communication beyond 5 sense reality) and intuition (knowing) by modulating the frequency of our DNA.

Read the Appendix for more detail.

Going back to the plan for a universal DNA database.... the lizards (whatever you want to call them) are VERY interested in our DNA. Why? Nothing to do with crime fighting. DNA matching is ineffective and flawed, there are plenty of examples of DNA matching not being accurate.

So Why? Because the DNA is the key to our consciousness evolution. If they can get there first then they plan to stop us from attaining Divine consciousness. Simple really.

One last point, does anyone know if Indigos have a different DNA structure?

Thanks LadyJane, I haven't read that book yet, but I will now, though I am two thirds through the Biggest Secret at the moment. All very compelling and disturbing stuff - let's hope that this is not something that becomes a reality.

[ladyjane]

..... let's hope that this is not something that becomes a reality.

well that my friend, is completely up to us. And it's not hope that will win the day, but knowing.

There's no Ashtar Command or other being gonna fall from the sky and do it for us. We have to focus on the Light, be the manifestation of Divine LOVE consciousness on Earth and we will co-create the reality we dream of.

Enjoy your reading my friend! :)

[kromagg]

Great. They're already trying to clone us...

[julieray]

Great. They're already trying to clone us...

Yes they are, take a look on the Raelite link, people are actually signing up for this. Apparently you agree to have a piece of bone removed from the central lobe of the forehead when you die and then hey presto, before you know it you will wake up in a brand new body of you!!!

They are convincing people of this because they claim that there is no God and once you are dead, you are dead, that there is no such thing as a soul hence the only way to truly live forever is to be cloned. Pretty horrendous isn't it!!

Clonaid have already cloned quite a few children in recent years too!

[lottie]

Read Appendix I of "Infinite Love is the Only Truth...", entitled "Human DNA is a Biological Internet say Russian Scientists".

In summary, we know that DNA acts as a transmitter and receiver of vibrational frequencies. David has been saying this for some time. The Russian scientists have demonstrated this in the laboratory. Focusing primarily on the 90%+ of our DNA that does not encode proteins, the so-called 'junk DNA' they discovered that DNA is used in data storage and communication, acting as an organic superconductor. DNA's ability to communication information can be influenced through the use of radio waves and laser rays. As humans, we have the ability to use our DNA for hypercommunication (communication beyond 5 sense reality) and intuition (knowing) by modulating the frequency of our DNA.

Read the Appendix for more detail.

Going back to the plan for a universal DNA database.... the lizards (whatever you want to call them) are VERY interested in our DNA. Why? Nothing to do with crime fighting. DNA matching is ineffective and flawed, there are plenty of examples of DNA matching not being accurate.

So Why? Because the DNA is the key to our consciousness evolution. If they can get there first then they plan to stop us from attaining Divine consciousness. Simple really.

One last point, does anyone know if Indigos have a different DNA structure?

Excellent posts ladyjane...you should post more often!! :)

Yes have heard that Indigo's do have a different DNA structure but im not sure where this info came from buti think it came from the mere fact that they are 'aware' without the need to be 'shown' so therefore it is assumed that they have a different DNA structure and that perhaps they have more than 2 strands of their 12 activated....this is spectulation on my part but this is the info ive been led to believe as i used to post on an Indigo Forum! :)

[informationx]

They want my DNA?

They can go fuck themselves in the ass! :D

[tinmenace]

The rule should apply evenly, and the Royal Family's DNA should be harvested too.

In fact I think we should analyze their DNA to see what it is that makes them so fucking special. What is it about their bloodline that entitles them to this insane wealth and worship status?

[december]

And what are you, British people, going to do about it?...

[ladyjane]

Excellent posts ladyjane...you should post more often!! :)

Yes have heard that Indigo's do have a different DNA structure but im not sure where this info came from buti think it came from the mere fact that they are 'aware' without the need to be 'shown' so therefore it is assumed that they have a different DNA structure and that perhaps they have more than 2 strands of their 12 activated....this is spectulation on my part but this is the info ive been led to believe as i used to post on an Indigo Forum! :)

Hi Lottie and thank you for your appreciation. I only signed yesterday and am happy to finally be a full subscriber.

We know so little about 12 strand DNA activation. Would the strands show up on a physical level as a different geometry i.e. not a double helix? Maybe something real cool like a dodecahedron... hey yeah, that would make sense because the dodecahedron is the 12 sided platonic solid and was the solid that represented spirit/ether and was considered most sacred by the ancient Greeks.

Or alternatively would the DNA exist only in the etheric i.e. energetic body therefore not be visible in the physical plane of 5 sense reality?

Someone needs to take a gifted child and look at their blood under a microscope! LOL!