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wakeup2nwo
03-11-2009, 11:27 PM
Estulin: G-20 Meeting in Scotland this Week about Dumping U.S. Dollar

Vocus/PRWEB
November 3, 2009

Best-selling author Daniel Estulin states that the key issue to be discussed this week at the G20 Finance Ministers and Central Bank Governors Meeting, being held in St. Andrews, Scotland, is how to bring down the present world financial system through dumping the US dollar. Estulin first reported on this initiative as being deliberated at the most recent Bilderberg meeting held in Greece in May 2009. Estulin says that the success or failure of this callous plan hinges on the ability of the US and UK representatives to convince the Russian, the Chinese and other national governments to go along with their scheme.

Estulin maintains that if the co-conspirators succeed, such sudden devaluation of the US dollar would result in the sinking of the world economy through a chain-reaction collapse of the entire world’s financial system. As discussed during the Bilderberg Group’s super-secret conclave back in May, this breakdown would then be used as an excuse to launch a new world monetary system. G20 leaders are aware that those who run the monetary markets, the monetary system, control the world. That is why today, the world is run through a dominant one-currency monetary system and not by national credit systems.

A severe breakdown crisis would affect every corner of the world and be a prelude to instability, wars and general hostility along financial, geographical and geopolitical lines, affecting not only particular countries but also societies, cultures and whole continents. Such a breakdown could result in a consolidation of the world’s monetary system.

Estulin declares that the creation of the new world currency is the true meaning of globalization, which is nothing but an empire. It is the elimination of the nation-state, the degradation of individual national liberties and the depredation of civil rights.

Collapsing the US dollar, first of all, is an assault on the structure of the United States economy toward the creation of a “World Company.” This concept, Estulin states, was initially discussed at the April 1968 Bilderberg Group meeting, held in Canada at Mont Trembland, by George Ball, a senior Lehman Brothers banker and former undersecretary for economic affairs for Presidents John Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson.

The aim of this World Company, as explained by Ball was “to eliminate the archaic political structure of nation-state” in favor of the more “modern” corporate structure. Ball also called for further political integration in Europe, and then the rest of the world, as a precondition for expanding the power of a World Company, thus putting the financiers on the same levels as governments.

This initiative, the moving away from the US dollar as a world currency, is the true intention of the G20 meeting November 6-7 at St. Andrews in Scotland, the site of the 1998 Bilderberg conference, Estulin asserts.

http://www.infowars.com/estulin-g-20-meeting-in-scotland-this-week-about-dumping-u-s-dollar/

wakeup2nwo
03-11-2009, 11:51 PM
http://www.indymediascotland.org/node/17108

Resist the G20 in St. Andrews, November 6-7!!

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By Nae Tae G20, submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 27/10/2009 - 19:32

Protest the G20 in St. Andrews on November 6-7th, 2009!

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In St. Andrews, we say "Nae Tae G20!

No to G20 neo-liberalism! No to economic exploitation! No to environmental destruction!

Yes to sustainability, community cooperation and peoples' representation!
Yes to liberation, solidarity, equality, human rights and peace!
Yes to revolution!

On the first weekend in November, the financial leaders of the world's twenty richest countries will be hosting closed door meetings in order to decide how our world should be run. The Group of Twenty (G20) finance ministers have chosen to host these meetings in the town of St. Andrews, Scotland, and in response groups of residents and students have paved the way to make our voices heard.

We the residents and students of this community are coming into the streets to say loud and clear, "The G20 is not welcome in our town," or as the Scots say, "Nae tae G-20!" We are joining together to say that the neo-liberal development, trade and environmental policies furthered by the G20 will not solve the global financial crisis, not solve the global ecological crisis and do not address the ever-increasing wealth gap. We are resisting the G20 because it is a mechanism of the global ruling elite that seeks to enrich the "1st world" at the expense of increasing poverty for the "underdeveloped" and "developing" world.

There are a number of organizations making exciting plans in St. Andrews during the weekend of the G20 meeting, and while Put People First (g20standrews.org) has organized an educational event, we have set our sights on getting people into the streets to show our collective dissent. To this end we have called for two days of festive actions:

- Friday, November 6, 2009, 11:00am, join us for a protest rally at the center of town fountain, located near the intersection of Market Street and College Street.

- Saturday, November 7, 2009, 1:30pm, join us for a march, also starting at the fountain at the center of town. The march will be gathering at 1:30pm and departing by 2:00pm.

In addition to these actions, groups are encouraged to organize locally in their communities, and come to St. Andrews to share their creative resistance with us during these two days. We will do our best to support your action if you require some assistance.

This action has been endorsed locally by Stop the War, the Scottish Socialist Party, numerous St. Andrews University student societies, and assorted Scottish workers unions.

Please direct all questions, endorsements, press inquiries and hate mail to NaeTaeG20@gmail.com and for more information as it arises visit: http://naetaeg20.wordpress.com/

See you in the streets, November 6th & 7th!

will any of you be attending? ;)

wakeup2nwo
04-11-2009, 12:27 AM
and this is the "Offical version" :D

G20 to work on global rebalancing timeline - U.S. official

Wed Nov 4, 2009 3:27am IST

By Glenn Somerville and David Lawder

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Finance chiefs from the Group of 20 will begin to develop a timeline for reforms to better balance the global economy at a weekend meeting in Scotland, but emphasis needs to stay trained on boosting growth, a senior U.S. Treasury Department official said on Tuesday.

While details of policies that individual countries may adopt are not expected to emerge from Friday and Saturday's session at the golf resort city of St. Andrews, finance ministers and central bankers from the group of rich and developing countries want to start discussing how move ahead with a workable plan.

G20 political leaders agreed in Pittsburgh in September to take measures to better balance demand across the global economy -- with more consumption in Asia and higher savings in the United States -- in order to ward off risks of a repeat of the last financial crisis.

Now the G20 finance chiefs have the task of beginning to spell out how to do it, by having countries lay out their economic policies and intentions, as well as indicate what data will be used to measure progress.

"The IMF (International Monetary Fund) will assist the process of pulling data together and evaluating it and a mutual assessment process will need to be developed and fleshed out," the U.S. official said.

PROGRESS BY JUNE

"We will want a timeline that leads to substantive and productive discussions when leaders next meet in June," the official added. Continued... http://in.reuters.com/article/businessNews/idINIndia-43655820091103?rpc=401

conspicioastrum
04-11-2009, 12:28 AM
Might get ugly. Thanks for the info.

wakeup2nwo
04-11-2009, 11:43 AM
Might get ugly. Thanks for the info.

no problem!

wakeup2nwo
04-11-2009, 06:25 PM
why doesn't any give a fuck about this? any scotts out there? humans?.... i guess not, there are people meeting behind closed doors to talk about YOUR FUTURE and still people are more concerned about H1N1 :mad:

frase
04-11-2009, 07:21 PM
why doesn't any give a fuck about this? any scotts out there? humans?.... i guess not, there are people meeting behind closed doors to talk about YOUR FUTURE and still people are more concerned about H1N1 :mad:

Mate I would be there if I lived closer.
I am 8 or 9 hours away.....

godspeed
04-11-2009, 07:40 PM
We're all done for mate....no awake yet ....but who wins again....

wakeup2nwo
04-11-2009, 07:48 PM
We're all done for mate....no awake yet ....but who wins again....


i hear people talking about how many people are awake inc icke but when i look around me, its only me and my girl that gives a fuck in my whole family.... i would honestly love to believe that enough people are awake to make a difference to our future but its just not true..

bulltwister
04-11-2009, 11:46 PM
I'm up for it, can't get there on friday but saturday sounds good... only takes me 30 mins to get there...I'll take some pics and post them up....there must be somebody else from the forum going
I've just heard it's at the Fairmont Hotel, just outside St Andrews...I wonder where the road blocks will start?

gestaltdude
04-11-2009, 11:54 PM
Just do whatn the Chaser boys did when they had the summit in Sydney a ouple of years ago.

Get dressed in some sort of uniform. Get a badge with "insecurity" on it, put the same on the car. You should then able to bluff your way through at least the outer rings.

ozpixie
05-11-2009, 02:57 AM
why doesn't any give a fuck about this? any scotts out there? humans?.... i guess not, there are people meeting behind closed doors to talk about YOUR FUTURE and still people are more concerned about H1N1 :mad:

I know. I have been talking to people about Copenhagen Treaty and all I get is ''huh''?

e7304
05-11-2009, 01:40 PM
I know. I have been talking to people about Copenhagen Treaty and all I get is ''huh''?



"Strong says on page 532"the world's ecosystems can be preserved only if the affluent nations of the world can be disciplined into lowering their standard of living. Production and consumption must be curtailed. To bring that about, those nations must submit to rationing, taxation, and political domination by world government. They will probably not do that voluntarily, so they will have to be forced. To accomplish that, it will be necessary to engineer a global monetary crisis which will destroy their economic systems. Then they will have no choice but to accept assistance and control from the UN."

and this.........

"It is clear that current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent
middle class … involving high meat intake, consumption of large amounts of frozen
and `convenience' foods, ownership of motor-vehicles, numerous electric household
appliances, home and work-place air-conditioning … expansive suburban housing …
are not sustainable.25
Mr. Strong's remarks were enthusiastically received by world environmental
leaders, but they prompted this angry editorial response in the Arizona Republic:
Translated from eco-speak, this means two things: (1) a reduction in the
standard of living in Western nations through massive new taxes and regulations, and
(2) a wholesale transfer of wealth from industrialized to under-developed countries.
The dubious premise here is that if the U.S. economy could be reduced to, say, the
size of Malaysia's, the world would be a better place. … Most Americans probably
would balk at the idea of the U.N. banning automobiles in the U.S.26"

I see this as the so-called- carbon tax and whats to follow.....

Have a look at this turd Maurice Strong....there is an article called "the wizard of Baca Grande"

"Who is this Maurice Strong who sees the United States as the environmental
aggressor against the world? Does he live in poverty? Does he come from a backward
country that is resentful of American prosperity? Does he himself live in modest
circumstances, avoiding consumption in order to preserve our natural resources? None
of the above. He is one of the wealthiest men in the world. He lives and travels in
great comfort. He is a lavish entertainer. In addition to having great personal wealth
derived from the oil industry in Canada – which he helped nationalize – Maurice
Strong was the Secretary-General of the 1992 Earth Summit in Rio; head of the 1972
UN Conference on Human Environment in Stockholm; the first Secretary-General of
the UN Environment Program; president of the World Federation of United Nations;
co-chairman of the World Economic Forum; member of the Club of Rome; trustee of
the Aspen Institute; and a director of the World Future Society. That is probably more
than you wanted to know about this man, but it is necessary in order to appreciate the
importance of what follows."

"A PLOT FOR ECONOMIC CRISIS
Maurice Strong believes – or says that he believes – the world's ecosystems can
be preserved only if the affluent nations of the world can be disciplined into lowering
their standard of living. Production and consumption must be curtailed. To bring that
about, those nations must submit to rationing, taxation, and political domination by world government. They will probably not do that voluntarily, he says, so they will
have to be forced. To accomplish that, it will be necessary to engineer a global
monetary crisis which will destroy their economic systems. Then they will have no
choice but to accept assistance and control from the UN.

This strategy was revealed in the May, 1990, issue of West magazine, published
in Canada. In an article entitled “The Wizard of Baca Grande,” journalist Daniel
Wood described his week-long experience at Strong's private ranch in southern
Colorado. This ranch has been visited by such CFR notables as David Rockefeller,
Secretary-of-State Henry Kissinger, founder of the World Bank Robert McNamara,
and the presidents of such organizations as IBM, Pan Am, and Harvard.
During Wood's stay at the ranch, the tycoon talked freely about
environmentalism and politics. To express his own world view, he said he was
planning to write a novel about a group of world leaders who decided to save the
planet. As the plot unfolded, it became obvious that it was based on real people and
real events. Wood continues the story:
Each year, he explains as background to the telling of the novel's plot, the
World Economic Forum convenes in Davos, Switzerland. Over a thousand CEOs,
prime ministers, finance ministers, and leading academics gather in February to attend
meetings and set economic agendas for the year ahead. With this as a setting, he then
says:

“What if a small group of these world leaders were to conclude that the principal
risk to the earth comes from the actions of the rich countries? And if the world is to
survive, those rich countries would have to sign an agreement reducing their impact
on the environment. Will they do it? ... The group's conclusion is `no.' the rich
countries won't do it. They won't change. So, in order to save the planet, the group
decides: Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse?
Isn't it our responsibility to bring that about? …

“This group of world leaders,” he continues, “form a secret society to bring
about an economic collapse. It's February. They're all at Davos. These aren't terrorists.
They're world leaders. They have positioned themselves in the world's commodity
and stock markets. They've engineered, using their access to stock exchanges and
computers and gold supplies, a panic. Then, they prevent the world's stock markets
from closing. They jam the gears. They hire mercenaries who hold the rest of the
world leaders at Davos as hostages. The markets can't close. The rich countries...”

And Strong makes a slight motion with his fingers as if he were flicking a cigarette
butt out the window.

I sit there spellbound. This is not any storyteller talking, this is Maurice Strong.
He knows these world leaders. He is, in fact, co-chairman of the Council of the World
Economic Forum. He sits at the fulcrum of power. He is in a position to do it.

http://www.freedom-force.org/pdf/Report_from_Iron_Mountain.pdf

The green groups were taken over 20 years ago by the big banks and it was decided that "humankind" was to be promoted as the biggest threat, to get us under a NWO. Just read comments from the WWF, Earth first etc and see who , from these orgs are also pushing AGW.

The fact that Brown, Kevin Rudd (a-hole) and other so-called world leaders are promoting this man made global warming makes total, absolute sense, when you realise what they intend to do.

Now the PTB and others have said the report is bogus. A "fake". Well, take it how you will, but I feel this is a summation. Of course Strong would not give the game away and "hide" the exact way they will do it.

I am in no doubt they will do it. No doubt at all.

wakeup2nwo
05-11-2009, 06:25 PM
I'm up for it, can't get there on friday but saturday sounds good... only takes me 30 mins to get there...I'll take some pics and post them up....there must be somebody else from the forum going
I've just heard it's at the Fairmont Hotel, just outside St Andrews...I wonder where the road blocks will start?

I know. I have been talking to people about Copenhagen Treaty and all I get is ''huh''?

i know, its like talking to a brick wall, people in this country have no idea about politics, i was the same a few years ago, now im looked at as strange because i give a fuck, its a strange world we live in!

concordewarrior
05-11-2009, 06:59 PM
When is this G20 meeting in Scotland? :confused:

rodin
05-11-2009, 07:06 PM
When is this G20 meeting in Scotland? :confused:

well well .. 7/11...

jiffy
05-11-2009, 07:50 PM
why doesn't any give a fuck about this? any scotts out there? humans?.... i guess not, there are people meeting behind closed doors to talk about YOUR FUTURE and still people are more concerned about H1N1 :mad:

It's not that they don't care, most people are cognitive by choice. The thought of their Government and social system working AGAINST them is not something they wish to acknowledge.

Lots of people live in a make believe bubble, which is why they don't address the now. They look to the future or the past and forget the present.

I share your views regarding the numbers of peoples awake. Like my previous statement, they choose not to see it!!! out of fright, which I can understand!!!!

jimmi
06-11-2009, 12:38 PM
I'm not very clued up on the numerology thing but I have noticed the links since I have become aware of this nwo/occult agenda.

I have been thinking about the eleventh of this month, I'm sure I have read something elsewhere on the forum about it, when you add the two and nine in 2009 you get eleven, so 11,11,11.

Now from what I admit might be a completely paranoid delusional perspective ...the seven soldiers were sacrificed for the g20 ceremony on the seventh which is to give energy to the event that will happen on the eleventh!

wakeup2nwo
06-11-2009, 05:36 PM
G20 debates how to let big banks fail

Last Updated: Friday, November 6, 2009 | 11:51 AM ET Comments18Recommend16
CBC News

Finance ministers from the G20 countries were grappling with the problem of how to allow big banks to big fail as they gathered in St. Andrews, Scotland, on Friday.

A senior official with Canada's Finance Department has said the ministers will discuss whether banks should be required to maintain a plan for how they would be wound down if they collapse.
A small group of students protested against the G20 finance ministers meeting in St. Andrews, Scotland, on FridayA small group of students protested against the G20 finance ministers meeting in St. Andrews, Scotland, on Friday (Martin Cleaver/Associated Press)

The official, who discussed the agenda with journalists Thursday on the condition of anonymity, said the proposal is gaining traction with the G20.

The idea is to clarify which creditors get paid if a big bank fails, in order to avoid financial panic. The collapse of investment bank Lehman Brothers last fall caused widespread turmoil on financial markets — in part out of concern about who would get paid after the bankruptcy.

Bankers have said the proposal would load them with paperwork and impede their efforts to back economic growth. Scotiabank CEO Rick Waugh warned an audience in Toronto on Monday against going too far.

"Changes must certainly be made," he said, "but the risks of over-reaction and damaging our return to economic growth are not to be treated lightly."

Waugh said Canada's financial sector is already strong, with "effective fiscal, monetary and regulatory oversight, as well as good, prudent management of financial institutions."
Ministers hold 'disparate views'

Finance Minister Jim Flaherty acknowledged there were "disparate views" on possible solutions.

"We need to be comprehensive in our approach," Flaherty said. "So we need to talk not only about larger institutions, but also some of the smaller institutions, and make sure that we're not creating two-tiered involvement by government."

Officials at the two-day meeting — which includes central bank governors from the world's top 20 economies — are expected to end the conference with another promise to keep economic stimulus measures going until the global recession is clearly over.

If there is an agreement on a co-ordinated strategy for ending stimulus programs, it would go before the meeting of G20 leaders in Canada next June.

http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2009/11/06/scotland-finance-ministers006.html

wakeup2nwo
06-11-2009, 05:57 PM
IMF discusses goals for the G20 - YouTube

fikle
06-11-2009, 08:53 PM
well well .. 7/11...

Wrong. It started today, and runs till Sunday.

and it's raining.

Lots

fikle
06-11-2009, 08:54 PM
Wrong. It started today, and runs till Sunday.

and it's raining.

Lots

Sorry, just re-read your post. Misread it the first time as 11th November.

muppetry

fikle
06-11-2009, 09:37 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/8347853.stm

wakeup2nwo
06-11-2009, 09:43 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/8347853.stm


its good to see someone is doing something, i dont understand how this g20 is so unheard of like its more of a secret meeting than the rest of them, where are all the protesters we seen in london or pittsburgh?

bulltwister
07-11-2009, 06:01 PM
Just back from St Andrews, not a great turnout for the demo but still ok.
About a hundred or so... here's a few pics....I'll upload a couple of vids to youtube and post a link in a bit

http://img33.imageshack.us/g/1006342k.jpg/


http://img33.imageshack.us/g/1006342k.jpg/

rodin
07-11-2009, 06:22 PM
I guess we find out Sunday evening if the $ is getting dumped...

rodin
07-11-2009, 06:23 PM
Wrong. It started today, and runs till Sunday.

and it's raining.

Lots
I thought started 6 and ended 7

wakeup2nwo
07-11-2009, 06:23 PM
Just back from St Andrews, not a great turnout for the demo but still ok.
About a hundred or so... here's a few pics....I'll upload a couple of vids to youtube and post a link in a bit

http://img33.imageshack.us/g/1006342k.jpg/


http://img33.imageshack.us/g/1006342k.jpg/


look forward to seeing the vids and well done for turning up, why wasn't there a bigger turnout? is it due to the location do you think, i get the impression not many people even knew it was happening until the last min?

bulltwister
07-11-2009, 06:44 PM
why wasn't there a bigger turnout?

I really don't know, I was expecting loads more people as it was Saturday.......I guess it's the same old story...the majority just don't care:mad:

Here's a link to my youtube page, I've just uploaded them

http://www.youtube.com/user/willturn6

bulltwister
10-11-2009, 02:02 AM
Some more pictures added

http://img18.imageshack.us/g/009115.jpg/