This information could save your mind.

[space lizard]

Hi,

I've been thinking about my whole experience of discovering David Icke.

Here's how it's been going up till now :
When I looked into it I laughed at the lizard thoery - box car willie and kriss kristofferson yeah right!, then I delved into it & I then started panicing about the NWO, I started alienating my friends and family, I started becomming paranoid about everything, I started getting on an emotional rollercoaster telling my wife I wanted a divorce / switching off my mobile phone all the time and stocking up loads of bottles of drinking water and hiding them in the attic, then I started dismissing it all as bullshit, Now I find myself comming back to it and seeing it all with a balanced view & wondering what can be done to help to the good cause of everyday people.

I can say now that I agree with what David Icke is stipulating about the global conspiracy, the NWO and Babylonian reptillian bloodlines etc. In fact my only dissagreement with all his theories is to do with shapeshifting, in my view your either a dark shadowy 4th dimensional reptille who these fuckers worship or your a lick arse politician / religious leader trying to swindle yourway onto the mothership.

I also feel that too much importance is placed on the physical aspect of destroying the NWO, afterall its oneness and our own reailties that we control once we learn how. So basically my view on the NWO is - Fuck Them. We decide what happens not them.

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But the really important thing I want to talk about here, is not going to make me very popular. But I'll say it anyway because this aint a popularity contest. Feel free to lable me a troll or a dis informer if you have allowed your paranoia to shut out all people who may put forth a view that does not at first sit well with you.

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I'm going to number these points so you can tell me exactly where it is that you disagree with me on this. (assuming you do)

1 The mind is contained within the brain.
2 The brain is a physical body part much like a liver or a lung.
3 if you smoke or drink to excess , you ruin your lungs and liver
4 if you dwell on negative shit you become depressed
5 if your depressed for a long time, your brain will release chemicals
6 If you keep flooding your brain with chemicals, you start to loose it

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I come here and see a lot of newbies suffering the same stuff I went through whe I first arrived and it worries me that nobody here seems interested in discussing mental problems as a possible cause. Instead people are happy to blame the invisible enemies and NWO.
Whe you discover the very real NWO and realise that governments by default are bastards, and the fact that aliens are quite possibly real it leads to - Paranioa, stress, panic / anxiety, loss of interest in life, distrust of friends, alienating family members, longing to run away, feelings of being attacked by invisible enemies and secret weapon etc.

Very often in life the most simple explination is the truth.

911 was done by the CIA, The NWO is happening, The World Health Organisation is incharge of population control and the UN are incharge of dealing arms to the 3rd world. Its all true.

BUT

As you discover these things and start to suffer huge mental trauma, its important to realise that your mind / ego dont want it to be true and is triggering chemicals and self devence mechanisms. The more you dewll on it and focus on it the more chemical highs and lows you will experience. The more this happens the more you will become forgetful and loose the ability to function and alienate your loved ones.

Ask yourself whats more likely, my mind is reacting to information overload and my friends are worried. OR the reptiles are onto me and are attacking me with secret weapons and my family are all in on it?

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If your in that stage now, its definitly time to step away from the net for a while and think about other things. The site will still be here and you can come back when your mind has adjusted and your more calm and balanced.

Mental illness is a serious issue that David Icke would not wish on anyone. Don't blow a mental gasket. This shits deep and you water wings are off for the first time. Welcome to the real world, we'd like you to stay.

:)

Also, I have a huge distrust of the mainstream. I have to question why it is that all of a sudden we seem to be flooded with movies about the global lies that are happening. Its my view that the NWO are behind this because they want chaos. They want the whole world to go mad and experience the things I have spoken of here. And as David icke said himeslf. It is Vital that we don't fall for it and go crazy enmass.

[shenoma]

Has the great Reverend Billy says, "your shopping is killing the planet." It's one part of the problem.

[mightiswrong]

Fuck Them. We decide what happens not them.

Here, Here. This is the main point.

As far as the conspiracy goes. Learning about these things helps one know what to look out for and then it becomes apparent that there is a conspiracy and it is doing great harm. Sometimes I have thought ignorance is bliss that it might be better not to know. However in the end if you don't know you are just a slave. Knowledge can empower you to act and we can change the world for the better.

The beautiful truth is that the illuminati at al can not control our destiny if we don't let them. We are in control. You are in control and have great power. This is something that I have been learning about for a while now. When I was young I said to my mother one day I am going to discover a power greater than electricity. I have now come to realise that I have indeed discovered such a power. The power I talk about is the power of thought. If you are interested in learning how to use thought to control your destiny with scientific precision I will include some links for the best resources on the subject below. Distress and harm can indeed come from reading about conspiracy and the problems of the world but studying and practicing mastery over ones thoughts can solve this problem and ensure one attracts the right people and experiences into ones life. We are free and all powerful to determine our future. The law of attraction which is the law of love is indeed the most important knowledge one can gain and should be the first thing children are taught and at present is something that is entirely hidden in the education system. I am at present studying this book. See http://www.smartwomeninvest.com/masterkey.pdf

"Remember that the law of growth necessarily governs every manifestation in the objective,
that a denial of unsatisfactory conditions will not bring about instant change. A plant will remain visible for some time after its roots have been cut, but it will gradually fade away and eventually disappear, so the withdrawal of your thought from the contemplation of unsatisfactory conditions will gradually, but surely, terminate these conditions.
You will see that this is an exactly opposite course from the one which we would naturally
inclined to adopt. It will therefore have an exactly opposite effect to the one usually secured.
persons concentrate intently upon unsatisfactory conditions, thereby giving the condition that measure of energy and vitality which is necessary in order to supply a vigorous growth."

[teslafire]

Great post.

I think that maybe some of that initial craziness, which most of us seem to go through, is necessary to battle all the implanted patterns set into us from birth...kinda like detoxing.

But then one day you wake up and think "wow, what happened to my life?"

I've done that several times...pretending like everything is OK and labeling my research into The Great Work as just a "phase". It allows me to blend into culture again and 'be normal' at parties and in society in general...but then, kinda like a yo-yo diet, I become incredibly depressed by the shallow face of things and dive headlong into the research again. This cycle continues until now where I mostly keep my thoughts to myself and only try to keep balance.

This game has been going on since before history (reppie stuff included) so there is no reason to fret now (but there is because of the monumental advance of microchipping)...eh I'm majorly conflicted.

Look out for you and your own is probably the best way.

To stay sane and to not sell-out your inner voice/soul in a world where we, who refuse to be tagged, will be the enemy of the masses.


Dunno

[fantana]

But the really important thing I want to talk about here, is not going to make me very popular. But I'll say it anyway because this aint a popularity contest.

Ahahaha! Great post, you crack me up consistantly.

[space lizard]

I think the thing that causes the trauma is loss.

I have 2 friends both over 40 years old. Both have been married and are now divorced having lost their houses to greedy ex-wifes and lawyers. + Lost the majority of access to thier own children. These guys are in a bit of a mental state and have developed strange personal trails.

One used to be rich and married to a woman who was kinky in the bedroom. (for some reason he though it was important I should know, even though I never met her) He is now a hermit who trusts no one and gets really angry sometimes. He's so messed up it sad.

Another mate of mine had a huge house and decided one day he wanted out. He gave most of it away just to be free. Now he's out meeting women and acting like a teenager. But his social skills are lacking after 14 years of marriage, and sometimes he has a habit of creating really arkward social situations, - like by just grabbing hold of a girl at a party whos 20 years younger as she walks past without any previous interation. - And despite the fact her dad is the same age as him.

Both these guys have a habit of dwelling on their losses and regrets and bringing themselves depression that triggers chemicals in the brain which then cause absurd behaviours and feelings of unworthyness and remorse. I've helped these guys to a degree to just say 'fuck it, move on'

I'm sure if these guys did not dwell on shite, they would be happy. but its a human condition that needs overcomming. maybe they are addicted to the thought processes and the highs and lows.

Some people are unfortunately genetically predisposed to mental illness through parents with mental issues, often they have disturbing childhoods thanks to one or two of their parents being mentally troubled and this increases the velicity of the negative cycle. I fall into this category. - and interestingly both of my friends have helped me out of depression when they have been up and I've been down. (Isn't life a magical see saw)

Other people just become a little crazy through bad luck in their lives which leads them to believe 'it has to be a fucking wind-up' or they make wrong decisions and put themselves under stress and pressure which inturn leads to mental problems.

Also society causes most of these problems because its geared to destroy the human soul and spirit. This is in part the work of the illuminati, and we are also to blame because we are the idiots that are letting them away with it.

Point of all this is that, it is possible to become insane by thinking shit thoughts. If your new to all this and suffering, litterally step away for a while. The brain needs time to find equilibrium when the water wings are popped.


take care.

[limelady]

A great thread space Lizard! I'm sure many people here can relate to what you've said, and your good advice to step back when one becomes overwhelmed.

My awakening was longer and slower, so I've been fortunate not to have had to endure a massive hit of trauma all at once, but I've certainly witnessed it in others, and its very daunting for them. :eek:

I'm so glad to hear you've come out the other end of your own trauma and are now here offering your experience for the benefit of others. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

LL :)

[hulelam]

Sanity is a matter of opinion.

[space lizard]

Sanity is a matter of opinion.

that's true, but freaking out / alienating loved ones / believing your under attack / thinking the cia are after you / quiting excersise / not eating / thinking about suicide / thinkin everyone else is in on it / and spending 24 hours a day 7 days a week for 3 months looking up youtubes about reptiles and ufo's....

these are beyond a matter of opinion, these are signs of compulsive behaviour that you need to keep a check on. The NWO is real and David Icke is right, but when you first discover these things you feel a need to injest all the information at once. Which is akin to eating a whole roast pig in one sitting.

All I'm saying is that if your not careful with any bad news and your emitions it can lead to insanity.

In my experience the warning signs are a loss of the ability to spell, isolation / paranoia / huge emotional turmoil / inability to think about anything else / etc.

The good news is that if you back off for about a month, you mind gathers its thoughts and you can live with it without being suicidal or locked up in a nut house. Then learn who to disipher shit from shinola

[edelweiss pirate]

As you discover these things and start to suffer huge mental trauma, its important to realise that your mind / ego dont want it to be true and is triggering chemicals and self devence mechanisms. The more you dewll on it and focus on it the more chemical highs and lows you will experience. The more this happens the more you will become forgetful and loose the ability to function and alienate your loved ones.

Not if you're tough. Now's the time for heroes.. Many are called few are chosen.

[hulelam]

I would just rather act compulsive towards things that pertain to truth. It sure is better than the simpleton who can't sleep at night because of the big project down in the office tomorrow morning.

[space lizard]

Well, I have see loads of posts in here, new people freaking out thinking they are under attack. This thread is for them to read.

Its got nothing to do with being 'tough' either.

[lifeofbrian]

Good advice, space lizard.

Happy to hear you landed on your feet.

[space lizard]

I love it when people recall my threads from pages two & three of the forum as they are about to drift off into the either, it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside :D

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On a serious note, when I first discovered Icke, NWO, illuminati etc. I could not stop telling Everyone about it and the weird thing is 50% of the people have no idea and 50% of the people I spoke to answered "yeah, the illuminati I know all about it, used to read that stuff years ago the bastards".

So I guess what I'm saying is allthough when I speak of this stuff on other websites it inveriably ends up in me being lampooned or banned, It wont get me down because real people are not as fuckin stoopid as the arse clowns you meet online who have nothing better to do with themselves other that try and make complete strangers angry.

At least I can come here and have intelligent conversations without limits to creativity and intellect. - I know sometimes I let myself down with crass jokes like the thread about Owen Wilson, but I'm from Dublin where anything is up for grabs as far as laughter is concerned and as David Icke said himself. Laughter is the best way to dispperse fear and depression. In truth I like some of Owen Wilsons films and I feel he probably attempted suicide because of all the shite hollywood stuff he has to do in order to get the indie stuff. - That and having a lifeling depression and sense of loss over some personal stuff. - Anyway I hope he finds peace whilst stiff alive and continues to make the better choices in life.

[shenoma]

Each reality has its own logic.

[STARWALKER]

Bump

Funny thing, when I read Ickes books I don not get depre-
ssed!
And perhaps the fact that I started looking in to this back
in the seventies have something to do with it? It is just
much easier when one don´t try to squeeze to lots of data
in there all at one time, I think.
Ickes general message is simply to positive in the end for
it to get me down. :)

[cruise4]

I haven't been able to stop investigating since May. The quest for the elusive truth has meant a barrage of information has needed to be got through. But its a very exciting quest and a great adventure, and beats 9-5 every time. I now feel armed and ready and its relaxed off a bit. Until the next round !

But this is FUN.

Keep in mind the NWO are either ignoring reality or playing King Canute against Nature. They have NO CHANCE overall, but may pick a few off in their death throes. They could even be regarded as essential to these times as a catalyst for the wake-up.

[shenoma]

All you need is love of yourself and let it shine through.:rolleyes:

[deca]

space lizard, I did not know anything about 911 being an inside job or NWO read any dave ickes books/movies I was attacked first, none lethal weapons, and mind weapons exists ok,
Theres about 100 odd real TI in the uk.2000 odd in the usa, other countrys various amounts in other country's

yes learning about the Real truth and how we have been lied to hurts and makes
you depressed, and can effect you, its a bumpy ride.

[mountain]

I eased my insanity by realizing that their are 6 billion plus people that are gonna remember that they are gods

[shenoma]

I eased my insanity by realizing that their are 6 billion plus people that are gonna remember that they are gods

More like part of the God.

[astro zombie]

Great post.

I think that maybe some of that initial craziness, which most of us seem to go through, is necessary to battle all the implanted patterns set into us from birth...kinda like detoxing.

But then one day you wake up and think "wow, what happened to my life?"

I've done that several times...pretending like everything is OK and labeling my research into The Great Work as just a "phase". It allows me to blend into culture again and 'be normal' at parties and in society in general...but then, kinda like a yo-yo diet, I become incredibly depressed by the shallow face of things and dive headlong into the research again. This cycle continues until now where I mostly keep my thoughts to myself and only try to keep balance.



Man, I can totally relate to that. That is exactly what happened to me just back in March of last year when I initially woke up to everything.

At this point though, my current thoughts are fuck it, we are eternal. I'm going to have fun while I'm here on this ride, and I'm going to help wake up every person I come across along the way.
I have tried to "unplug" alot of my friends and it has worked for some of my real close friends. The feeling you get when you know you helped someone realize that 9/11 was an inside job is enormous, it makes it all worth it to me. I've found the best way to approach people about this kinda stuff is the same way David Icke does, which is simply saying here is some interesting info, make of it whatever you like.

I feel like I was "meant" to wake up and realize the truth you know what I mean? It is empowering to know the truth, and I will take the truth over living in ignorance every fucking time.

Anywho.:p