Jesuit Educated?

[glassjawzed]

Can someone please elaborate on why exactly every famous person who has gone to Georgetown or Fordham is considered a Jesuit coadjutor? It seems farfetched to me that a guy like Denzel Washington is considered a Jesuit accomplice because he went to Fordham University.

[kimball13]

a man i met and formed an uneasy freindship for awhile often commented about being jesuit trained, he began in grade shcool.
he is/was wealthy.
the reason for the uneasy relationship is simple, we are on opposing sides,,,,,,,,,,i first felt this then over a few years of curiosity as well as getting to know him confirmed this.
a simple solution to allot of the world problems would be to just fire all of the people that recieved a catholic edjucation,,,,,,,,,my case point is ther loyalty is to that church even above God.

jesuiet training also deals with what is spoken of in the Celestine prophecys.

there main tools are to cause cognitive disonance and sucidal ideations,,,,,,,,,im sure many have heard of suicide cults,,,,,,,usualy there is a jesuit trained person close to the groups doing that.
it apears that either they fead of the suicidal energy or maybe its just how they get gifted individuals out of the way by creating an envioroment of constant troubles as well as shameing tactics.

they also work in pacts/teams, there aproach is seprate yet if you can spot it you will pick up on how two people from seprate places and clicks claiming to not know each other sooner or latter slip up, then when they feal in the clear they chum up to discuss there troubled common freind(target) or to act like consoling one another after the person has commited suicide then they can begin there freindship in the open(intel tactics).

Jones town was one of there creations:cool:

[glassjawzed]

I don't understand how a college like Fordham University could control or persuade thousands of students who attended for only a few years. More info besides anecdotes on this "Jesuit mind control" please.

[grandsecretary]

a man i met and formed an uneasy freindship for awhile often commented about being jesuit trained, he began in grade shcool.
he is/was wealthy.
the reason for the uneasy relationship is simple, we are on opposing sides,,,,,,,,,,i first felt this then over a few years of curiosity as well as getting to know him confirmed this.
a simple solution to allot of the world problems would be to just fire all of the people that recieved a catholic edjucation,,,,,,,,,my case point is ther loyalty is to that church even above God.

jesuiet training also deals with what is spoken of in the Celestine prophecys.

there main tools are to cause cognitive disonance and sucidal ideations,,,,,,,,,im sure many have heard of suicide cults,,,,,,,usualy there is a jesuit trained person close to the groups doing that.
it apears that either they fead of the suicidal energy or maybe its just how they get gifted individuals out of the way by creating an envioroment of constant troubles as well as shameing tactics.

they also work in pacts/teams, there aproach is seprate yet if you can spot it you will pick up on how two people from seprate places and clicks claiming to not know each other sooner or latter slip up, then when they feal in the clear they chum up to discuss there troubled common freind(target) or to act like consoling one another after the person has commited suicide then they can begin there freindship in the open(intel tactics).

Jones town was one of there creations:cool:

What utter codswallop. Jonestown, a creation of the Jesuits? Bonkers.

[kimball13]

What utter codswallop. Jonestown, a creation of the Jesuits? Bonkers.
are you sure about your juddgements,,,,,,,or was it masons?
or maybe your only a lessor degree?
you seem so suffer from an attitude of contempt prior to investigation.
and for the record ive been on the ground and have seen the after afects of that event in the community that thing created.


but then im a tracker, or dont you know about my type of person, im also not just a tracker.

but you grandsecratary seem to only come from one school of thought, i come from many,,,,,,,,and im not down playing your knowlege just that you dont have all the peices,,,,,,,,and i actualy admire those that specialize iin one group, but deplore a single group claiming to know it all:eek:


so grandsecratary please explane why jones town could not have been a jesuit created entity(Vatican, CAtholic, Jesuit).

[kimball13]

is a codswallup , a dick hanging on a wall? as in cod peice up on the wall.

Tubaal Cain, or am i not?
strange how many use masonic terms to portray being a mason.
hay i heard the queen was selling titles of Sir,,,,,,,,,,case in point Michael Jackson.

[grandsecretary]

are you sure about your juddgements,,,,,,,or was it masons?
or maybe your only a lessor degree?
you seem so suffer from an attitude of contempt prior to investigation.
and for the record ive been on the ground and have seen the after afects of that event in the community that thing created.


but then im a tracker, or dont you know about my type of person, im also not just a tracker.

but you grandsecratary seem to only come from one school of thought, i come from many,,,,,,,,and im not down playing your knowlege just that you dont have all the peices,,,,,,,,and i actualy admire those that specialize iin one group, but deplore a single group claiming to know it all:eek:


so grandsecratary please explane why jones town could not have been a jesuit created entity(Vatican, CAtholic, Jesuit).

I don't have to explain anything, although I could, quite easily.

I have been to lots of places but that proves nothing. As it happens I have read and researched a great deal about this cult.

It is your stupid allegation. You explain, because you are a million miles short so far. The ball is VERY firmly in your court.

What utter nonsense. Jesuits indeed. And I am no friend of theirs I can assure you. Why? because I was Jesuit educated, God help me. I have the bruises to prove it. This kind of moronic, dishonest exaggeration is not necessary to discredit them. In fact, it damages genuine criticism.

Now if you want to know about Jesuit education, that alone would suffice.

[grandsecretary]

how many use masonic terms to portray being a mason.

Only Moderns freemasons. Ours? None.

[glassjawzed]

I actually do want to know about Jesuit education alone, hence the post.

[grandsecretary]

What do you want to know?

Obviously, one of the main jobs of the Jesuits is as teachers of young men. They do an excellent job academically, but their main objective is two fold. Firstly, Roman Catholic indoctrination, and secondy recruitment for the Jesuit Priesthood.

I was, ruthlessly, subjected to both.

[glassjawzed]

I want to know what it was at Georgetown and Fordham in the 60s and 70s that made every person who went there or another similar university for even a few years a Jesuit coadjutor.

[kimball13]

I don't have to explain anything, although I could, quite easily.

I have been to lots of places but that proves nothing. As it happens I have read and researched a great deal about this cult.

It is your stupid allegation. You explain, because you are a million miles short so far. The ball is VERY firmly in your court.

What utter nonsense. Jesuits indeed. And I am no friend of theirs I can assure you. Why? because I was Jesuit educated, God help me. I have the bruises to prove it. This kind of moronic, dishonest exaggeration is not necessary to discredit them. In fact, it damages genuine criticism.

Now if you want to know about Jesuit education, that alone would suffice.


my apologies, maybe i should have stated the disease rather than the sympton i do that on ocasion.

after all youve just stated jones very tactics.

[kimball13]

Only Moderns freemasons. Ours? None.


maybe i should have also explained that the one i got to know as well as a few other factions use the same type of tactic(MO) so it is hard to tell some apart for me because i was not subjected to mass mind control techniques to the extent most of the populace was, i was more or less subjected to almost every type there is after i underwent conditioning of my own free will around the age of 5-6 at a scotish rite clinic,,,,,,,,,,,
so i do offer my apologies and i am greatfull for your sharring your experiences,,,,,,,,,,,,but i still stand on my opinion of the intelegence portions of many religions of which the vatican is the most guilty of no less than century's of war crimes.


i suppose my point also is this,,,,,,,,,,IVE BEEN ON THE FRONT LINES MY ENTIRE LIFE IN ALL OF THIS YOU AND MANY SPEAK OF FROM PLACES OF HIGHER LEARNING, then when one of my type shows up able to still retain his sanity from years of learning stuff that many of you only read about in college and maybe experience once or twice for a case study,,,,,,,,,,maybe another way to put it would be the differnce between a polititian and a general that rose threw the ranks in the feild never setting foot into higher acedemia.

so for my ignorance i can only say it realy is not my fault, maybe the lodge should have saw to more attention to my higher edjucation instead of keeping me as a slave:eek:a golden goose for the american lodges;)then the enemys saw this weakness and exploted it while still thinking they could control me and keep me subdued and ignorant to the extent of all of this,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but they forgot that it was my grandfather's influence that kept me a bit loyal as well as willing to repress certain memories,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,that and it should not have continued my entire lifetime,,,,,,,,then as you may know the USA templars were taken over by outsiders, go ask the world head about that.


i should also say i dont have resentments towards masons, actualy true masons i highly respect,,,,,,,,,,but i dont pull punches even for my own when great wrong has been done,,,,,,,this may also be why i have more animosity towards the vatican.

so you see i got attacked by both in differnt ways,,,,,,,,,,,,a few bad masons taking advantage of something as well as being attacked by the vatican to such an extent after awhile they both wonderd if i worked for the other.
funny huh, but my job so to speak or mission started at a mosonic temple of my free will,,,,,,and it is a bit strange because a temple dog is the protector of the temple,,,,,,of which is found in my name, my astrology, my heritage, and my memories as a boy.
now for a bit more honesty,,,,,,,,someone abused the protector then attemted to missuse, big no no, because just maybe no matter how young the protector he will triumph.

not to be as snotty as youve been but men twice your age and myself have had very deap conversations from many secret societys i dont pay much attention to what they call themselves,,,,.

my grandmother also said it was strange that someone so young was so much like his grandfather.
the only book in his library that i paid much attention to wass the one about the Armour, that was also the same year i believe the Templars were taken over thinking i was out of hte way being Indian, i could go on it does involve the FBI,as well as 29 palms, not to mention a few terrorist supporters.

like i said Grandsecratary ive been on the front lines my entire life, maybe you know nothing of the Military Orders or a old school RAM.

they can steal titles and forge documents but there are things you are or you are not.


maybe if you watch the new king arthur movie that came out a few years back and aply that story line to current times, and relize there is a family of Pendragon/King Arthur and aply that to current age, now youve got Arthur inslaved by the vatican as protector,,,,,,,seems history repeats itself,,,,,,,,,,,thing is im under no ones control, other than my complete factultys are still mending from things to complicated to go into now.

not to sound whatever but it does seem as if something has you very botherd ther grandsecratary,,,,,,,,,,,its the first time youve actualy acknowledged my existance, after all i tried before but seems when i mentioned jonestown it struck a deep nerve,,,,,,,,,,dont worry i leave the rest of my observations to myself for now.

[kimball13]

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Originally Posted by kimball13 http://www.davidicke.com/forum/images/buttons_green/viewpost.gif (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1058382045#post1058382045)
are you sure about your juddgements,,,,,,,or was it masons?
or maybe your only a lessor degree?
you seem so suffer from an attitude of contempt prior to investigation.
and for the record ive been on the ground and have seen the after afects of that event in the community that thing created.


but then im a tracker, or dont you know about my type of person, im also not just a tracker.

but you grandsecratary seem to only come from one school of thought, i come from many,,,,,,,,and im not down playing your knowlege just that you dont have all the peices,,,,,,,,and i actualy admire those that specialize iin one group, but deplore a single group claiming to know it all:eek:


so grandsecratary please explane why jones town could not have been a jesuit created entity(Vatican, CAtholic, Jesuit).


and his responce, notice what i mention and his responce to my ignorance iludeing to his knowlege and lodge of being supior standing to any one else, what arrogance is this.


I don't have to explain anything, although I could, quite easily.

I have been to lots of places but that proves nothing. As it happens I have read and researched a great deal about this cult.

It is your stupid allegation. You explain, because you are a million miles short so far. The ball is VERY firmly in your court.

What utter nonsense. Jesuits indeed. And I am no friend of theirs I can assure you. Why? because I was Jesuit educated, God help me. I have the bruises to prove it. This kind of moronic, dishonest exaggeration is not necessary to discredit them. In fact, it damages genuine criticism.

Now if you want to know about Jesuit education, that alone would suffice.
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maybe it is because i can decifer there grand tapestry and they cannot properly:eek:

[kimball13]

i sure i said im a tracker, after all there rules state you have to tell the population and get them to agree right.

oh, my bad, never said exactly what kinda tracker:cool:

[kimball13]

i know a bit more about who may have assisted and trained him.
i could say it was the illuminate but that would still include the same players.

i may be way off base but arnt the jesuits catholic.
as far as being a millions miles of base im actualy only about 5 minutes away from where he honed his skills:eek:
but what do i know, only the trauma he created as well as tracing certain elements of it to a few jesuit edjucated people, im pretty sure none of the truely guilty partys will ever be known, but im not looking from your point of veiw(down) but Up from ground zero.

here this may help.

http://www.theblackvault.com/images/pdf.gif On Resisting Social Influence [34 Pages] (http://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/mindcontrol/ADA075694.pdf) - Resisting social influences becomes important when such influences can be appropriately thought of as 'mind control.' When information is systematically hidden, withheld or distorted it is impossible to make unbiased decisions. Under these circumstances, people may be subtly led to believe they are 'freely' choosing to act. It is precisely this kind of decision that persists and most affects our behavior since we come to believe in those attitudes and actions for which we have generated our own justifications. The thesis of this essay is that 'mind control' exists not in exotic gimmicks, but rather in the most mundane aspects of experience. Because it does, it is possible to reduce our susceptibility to unwanted coercive control by increasing our vigilance and learning to utilize certain basic strategies of analysis. In this paper, we present resistance strategies which are broadly applicable to the wide array of mind-manipulation attempts that surround us daily--in a 'self- help' format that provides for ready accessibility. Findings from relevant social-psychological research, from interviews and personal experiences with con men, cultists, super-salesmen and other perpetrators of mind control comprise the reservoir of information from which we have drawn.

and in all honesty ive only read this much of the entire document, im a bit afraid to because i know i already know a bit of it and i may even know more,,,,,,,,,,,funny it was published about 4 years after my little conditioning thing.

[kimball13]

uhoh, seems i may have read it, the social influence paper, just that it must have been about 30 years ago, would have made me about 9 or so.
so you see grandsecratary
and this part sticks out like a sore thumb,

sorry to change the subject, but in a sense it still is part of it although a bit more detailed into the real disease rather than just the symtom and who knows maybe someone will read the full document as i am finaly reading it and put two and ttwo together and begin antoher thread about something else or even a tidbit of truth in this one or why certains schools and people are lumped IN:eek:


Andersen/Zimbardo 11
Nor is being courteous and open with service personnel at the expense of requesting
proper identification. Being able to disobey simple situational rules when we
feel we should is important for men as well as for women. It requires assertiveness,
and leastwise, a critical evaluation of the situation.
* Actively monitor social interactions. Establish a critical distance periodically
to examine situations from other perspectives. Search for situational pressures
in your physical and social surroundings, for the small details as well as the
big picture. Practice thinking ahead, anticipating what will come next, checking
for discrepancies and noting how you feel about them.
* Be willing to disobey simple situational rules when you feel you should, to
sound false alarms occasionally or to cause a scene. Never do anything you
don't believe Just to appear normal or to get someone off your back.
Be able to recognize the conditions under which you are most vulnerable to
accepting persuasive appeals (the conditions we will describe in the next
section). Should a potent persuasion tactic be present in a situation, postpone
making a decision on the matter, if possible, or be able to say "no."
* At the very least, try to get more information so that you can carefully
consider the consequences of saying "no" to something that could turn out
essentially "good" (Could you return in a week or a year and say "yes"?) or
of saying "yes" to something that could turn our essentially "bad" (Could you
lose your money, pride or life?). Obtain and utilize all available information
and search for new, reliable sources.
Resisting persuasion: confidence, clarity and persistence


a page from the recently released documents.

thing also is ive known and lived this my entire life on one level or another.
this is why when i do post to a thread i seem to have an experience or group of them or some kinda intimit knowledge of some of the deeper things only found in classified documents that irronicly are being de-classifiedas we speak,,,,,,,,,other thing is allot of them coincide with my life and events in it as well as my personal knowledge base.


you see grandsecratary i can almost say that society has been my teacher, and thank God i was prepared to endure the social influences in life,,,,,,,,im sure you would think my thread is codswallop and could never happen,,,,,,so then why is it that documents are being released concering the very type of information ive been trying to use efectivly,,,,,,,,,,,,,but then i also mention how me and someone else wehre switched,,,,,,,,so in a sense simply the programers/brainwashers tried to hide as my type the ones that dismatle this crap and develope the edjucation neaded so that humanity may evolve,,,,,,,,,,,,or did you forget what the Masonic way was ment for grandsecratary, do you think its just a networking tool and tool to make your peddastall being the resident mason on this forum, or are you upset about something else.

like i said there are many documents already released as well as are still currently being released.

[glassjawzed]

Does anyone who isn't crazy want to reply to my thread with some relevant and useful information?

[kweli]

Does anyone who isn't crazy want to reply to my thread with some relevant and useful information?

lol.. sorry can't help, but I do empathise with your frustration.

[kimball13]

Does anyone who isn't crazy want to reply to my thread with some relevant and useful information?


sorry about that, im not sure i or anybody else completely understood the question.

that is why i brought up the social influence topic into this maybe its just a matter of guilt by association.

didnt even know denzel was associated with conspiracys even though he remade the manchurian canidate which by the way nobody seems to remember or seen,,,,,,,,,,,maybe that is it,,,,,,,gossip and propeganda due to the delicate nature of that movie as well as they used actual sucgeons and experts in that particular feild.:cool:

[kimball13]

or maybe if you narrowed your question down and gave a bit of background on why you have even asked it would be helpfull,,,,,,,other than that your question is asking for crazy responces due to its nebulouse form.

crazy na, know way to much for my age yes.

[glassjawzed]

I thought I already made my question pretty specific but I will try again. What was it about Jesuit-founded or affiliated institutions such as Georgetown and Fordham during the 60s and 70s that made every famous person who attended them for any amount of time to be considered a Jesuit coadjutor?

I can understand if someone grew up with a Jesuit education. However, how does spending 4 years at Fordham in the late 60s make someone like Denzel Washington a Jesuit coadjutor. There were thousands or tens of thousands in attendance at those universities. I noticed there were several individuals like that in the Jesuit movers and shakers thread who I found curious.

[kimball13]

simple guilt by association.
or he recieved preferential treatment.
maybe its on there part to put out there a closer relationship with them unbeknownst to Denzel as well as others,,,,,,,,,,its a very common tactic for people to use that are less than reputable yet put on a venere of honor and integrity.

all ya gotta do is find someone to spread a rumor then sit back and forget about it because its like a kite,,,,,,,,,,as in black ops type stuff,,,,,,,,,,,ya gett it aloft then if the heat comes around ya cut the string,,,,,,,,,,,wada they call that, no knowlege of it type thng.

the game has now become one of sugjestability and corrersions that,,,,,,,,,well i will just say its simple yet very complicated.

as far as jesuite yada yada i know very little other than tactics, strategies, etc.
and even that is limited. heck i dont even know what i know half the time.
to bad for them, and me sometimes, at least my heart is light and my innerself has not inner turmoil to point out a greavouse charector due to the crap that comes to the surface of my mind.

but simple guilt by association, the question now it was it an induced guilt by association to set a stage at a later date.

Maybe that is why he made the movie manchurian canidate, to rub it in some jesuit noses a bi as well as others using such torturouse evil methods.

thanks for the clarifications,,,,,,,,,,,,and maybe a look at if he has donated moneys and such to them might answer if he has a continued relationsip with them.

[kimball13]

Denzels a Bishop?

[kadosh]

"Give me the child, and I will mould the man."

"Give me the child for seven years, and I will give you the man."

"Give me the child until he is seven and I care not who has him thereafter."

"Give me the child till the age of seven and I will show you the man."

Most authors use the word "alleged" when attributing the quote to the Jesuits or one of their members - St. Ignatius of Loyola, the found of the Society of Jesus (Jesuits) or St. Francis Xavier, first missionary to India who assisted Ignatius in the formation of the Jesuits.

[soulja]

I can understand if someone grew up with a Jesuit education. However, how does spending 4 years at Fordham in the late 60s make someone like Denzel Washington a Jesuit coadjutor. There were thousands or tens of thousands in attendance at those universities. I noticed there were several individuals like that in the Jesuit movers and shakers thread who I found curious.

Without this, imo ridiculous claim, the jesuit rule it all theory would fall apart, same goes for the claim that every catholic works for the jesuits. Georgetown is not just a jesuit training ground btw, according to the jesuit fanbois it's also the center of control when it comes to amerika. Yes amerika is run from georgetown university. And the black pope is the most powerful being on earth.

[kimball13]

"Give me the child, and I will mould the man."

"Give me the child for seven years, and I will give you the man."

"Give me the child until he is seven and I care not who has him thereafter."

"Give me the child till the age of seven and I will show you the man."

Most authors use the word "alleged" when attributing the quote to the Jesuits or one of their members - St. Ignatius of Loyola, the found of the Society of Jesus (Jesuits) or St. Francis Xavier, first missionary to India who assisted Ignatius in the formation of the Jesuits.
interesting quote, makes me very curios.
whom was the quote originated by, was it alleged to be from one of those you mention or was it something maybe they learned while in india.