View Full Version : Harriet Harman's sister - Family Courts
ms hope
01-11-2009, 08:32 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2009/oct/31/sarah-harman-harriet-family-courts
Sarah Harman: 'I lost all faith and confidence'
If Harriet Harman's sister lost faith in the Family Court System and the treatment she received at the hands of Kent County Council , how does she think the families must feel who have their children stolen for forced adoption, at least she only had her career ruined :(
that said her sister Harriet is a disgrace and should have done far more
Ian2day
02-11-2009, 08:14 AM
Who do you work for?
ms hope
02-11-2009, 03:37 PM
Who do you work for?
that's a bit personal - who do you work for?
ms hope
02-11-2009, 03:43 PM
http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/families/article6898675.ece
child stealing by default :mad:
richmick
02-11-2009, 04:12 PM
think one of the replies to that article say it all really...
I can relate 100% with Sarah.
I studied in University in the 1970's and thought I knew what family law and social work was all about.
However, what was written in the books was not what was taking place in camera in real life.
I understand how Sarah feels- it is such a blow to the human spirit and can even make you really ill.
It is the injustice of it all that is a killer of decent loving human beings- as we know from Sally Clarke- Legal Abuse Syndrome KILLS.
I would like to let Sarah know that there are many cases of injustice in the family courts.
I have seen so many over 15 years- that I have 0% trust in the system.
I have seen children stolen- yes- stolen- where a Justice judge's order was ignored and a baby stolen for forced adoption.
I have the yellow files "disappear" so the child will never find its creators- parents when he is 18.
I have seen many children places with abusers- even pedophiles and their abuse documented.I have heard the screams of the children to be returned to their innocent parents.
I have even had a girl gang raped in "care" to try and prevent her from getting an advocate to help her get the truth to a solicitor.
The Judge knew the truth and left the children there to suffer rape, torture, sold for sex.
I have seen Local Authorities doctor documents when the foster panel turn down a foster carer- they simply change the name and the judge rubberstamps it.
I have seen transcripts from RCJ doctored also- I was stunned to see one sentence in the transcript from my 30 minute presentation.
Not a word of the abuse of those children in the transcript.
I have seen a decent lord Justice being taken off the case, when he cites several miscarriages of justice.
I have dealt with the near suicides of mothers whose children have been brutally taken from. It is like seeing the Mothers in the Magdalene laundries suffer all over again.
I have seen victims of Domestic Violence abused all over again in court and by so called caring social workers and Barristers.
I have seen children placed with their abusive parent- because some expert- Claire Sturge and Co belive the "Authoritarian abusive parent is best for children.
In the 15 years, I learned that it was nothing to do with justice or child protection or domestic violence.
I have seen victims of Domestic Violence loose their children to forced adoption and in the appeal it was stated that it was an unlawful PPO- but the children are adopted to strangers and now receiving psychiatric "care"
Is that in the children's best inerests?
The authoritarian patriarchal system demonises women and children
It is all about Control and Money.
I have contacted 105 solicitors to take a case for a family- but one call to the Local Authority and they are off the case.
I could write a book on what I have witnessed.
wildhorse
02-11-2009, 04:23 PM
think one of the replies to that article say it all really...
I can relate 100% with Sarah.
I studied in University in the 1970's and thought I knew what family law and social work was all about.
However, what was written in the books was not what was taking place in camera in real life.
I understand how Sarah feels- it is such a blow to the human spirit and can even make you really ill.
It is the injustice of it all that is a killer of decent loving human beings- as we know from Sally Clarke- Legal Abuse Syndrome KILLS.
I would like to let Sarah know that there are many cases of injustice in the family courts.
I have seen so many over 15 years- that I have 0% trust in the system.
I have seen children stolen- yes- stolen- where a Justice judge's order was ignored and a baby stolen for forced adoption.
I have the yellow files "disappear" so the child will never find its creators- parents when he is 18.
I have seen many children places with abusers- even pedophiles and their abuse documented.I have heard the screams of the children to be returned to their innocent parents.
I have even had a girl gang raped in "care" to try and prevent her from getting an advocate to help her get the truth to a solicitor.
The Judge knew the truth and left the children there to suffer rape, torture, sold for sex.
I have seen Local Authorities doctor documents when the foster panel turn down a foster carer- they simply change the name and the judge rubberstamps it.
I have seen transcripts from RCJ doctored also- I was stunned to see one sentence in the transcript from my 30 minute presentation.
Not a word of the abuse of those children in the transcript.
I have seen a decent lord Justice being taken off the case, when he cites several miscarriages of justice.
I have dealt with the near suicides of mothers whose children have been brutally taken from. It is like seeing the Mothers in the Magdalene laundries suffer all over again.
I have seen victims of Domestic Violence abused all over again in court and by so called caring social workers and Barristers.
I have seen children placed with their abusive parent- because some expert- Claire Sturge and Co belive the "Authoritarian abusive parent is best for children.
In the 15 years, I learned that it was nothing to do with justice or child protection or domestic violence.
I have seen victims of Domestic Violence loose their children to forced adoption and in the appeal it was stated that it was an unlawful PPO- but the children are adopted to strangers and now receiving psychiatric "care"
Is that in the children's best inerests?
The authoritarian patriarchal system demonises women and children
It is all about Control and Money.
I have contacted 105 solicitors to take a case for a family- but one call to the Local Authority and they are off the case.
I could write a book on what I have witnessed.
I wish I could challenge you and call you a liar
but I know that you speak the truth
I hope that God puts an end to these injustices, and serves justice upon the true child abusers...the social services and those who lie to steal Gods most treasured gift
our babies :(
wildhorse
02-11-2009, 04:33 PM
http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/families/article6898675.ece
child stealing by default :mad:
just sick....its not enough for them to steal our babies, they have to severe the very bond and cause agonising pain to both the mother and the baby
bastards
I witnessed for myself the damage done by this...my own baby reaching for the arms of her foster mother when I had to take her back from contact. I was nothing but a babysitter on 60 quid a week, whilst the foster mother was on hundreds for doing what I dreamt about for months...being a mum to my baby
richmick
02-11-2009, 05:11 PM
I wish I could challenge you and call you a liar
but I know that you speak the truth
I hope that God puts an end to these injustices, and serves justice upon the true child abusers...the social services and those who lie to steal Gods most treasured gift
our babies :(
Hey wildhorse, i didn't write that article, it was taken from the OP link, in the replies section. Just in case you thought it was me saying what was said. Yeah know, evil is working through every orifice of society now. It wants to create as much fear and pain and suffering on the planet as it can. But don't let that happen...Feel the love deep within and ask for it to come forth into the world and cleanse it of these vile monsters, filth....Don't let them get you low...bless the children, may righteousness bring a storm of 'karma' on those that have sort to do so much harm.
wildhorse
02-11-2009, 05:27 PM
Hey wildhorse, i didn't write that article, it was taken from the OP link, in the replies section. Just in case you thought it was me saying what was said. Yeah know, evil is working through every orifice of society now. It wants to create as much fear and pain and suffering on the planet as it can. But don't let that happen...Feel the love deep within and ask for it to come forth into the world and cleanse it of these vile monsters, filth....Don't let them get you low...bless the children, may righteousness bring a storm of 'karma' on those that have sort to do so much harm.
oops :)
yes I call upon the love, and karma...it doesnt seem to help....these lies and cases go on, I dont know where my baby is, its her 2nd birthday on the 28th november....
shame ascension cant hurry up and transmute it all and the evil scumbags involved huh :rolleyes:
richmick
02-11-2009, 05:37 PM
oops :)
yes I call upon the love, and karma...it doesnt seem to help....these lies and cases go on, I dont know where my baby is, its her 2nd birthday on the 28th november....
shame ascension cant hurry up and transmute it all and the evil scumbags involved huh :rolleyes:
Not much has happened i agree, the awakening does not seem to be in any hurry...I've kinda given up on the whole infinite love thing. I focus now on my love and determination to change things...I meditate, pray, affirm daily my repulsiveness at the way this world has been allowed, for thousands of years, to be run by sick mutated mind scum. And i say to those who believe we are learning a serious lesson to ascend, please fuck, spare me. Your actually saying the creator condones these parasites actions to aid our awakening. My goodness what does that say about the creator, that it relies on evil to forfill it's works....YOU START THINKING, THE CREATOR IS A SCITZO...ack.....bless your child, and others like her, where ever she may be...:)
wildhorse
02-11-2009, 05:48 PM
Not much has happened i agree, the awakening does not seem to be in any hurry...I've kinda given up on the whole infinite love thing. I focus now on my love and determination to change things...I meditate, pray, affirm daily my repulsiveness at the way this world has been allowed, for thousands of years, to be run by sick mutated mind scum. And i say to those who believe we are learning a serious lesson to ascend, please fuck, spare me. Your actually saying the creator condones these parasites actions to aid our awakening. My goodness what does that say about the creator, that it relies on evil to forfill it's works....YOU START THINKING, THE CREATOR IS A SCITZO...ack.....bless your child, and others like her, where ever she may be...:)
aye well said
its gone on too long and has served no purpose cept to those who continue to peddle their evil. But its getting worse. Like you I pray for this to end, meditate about it and get angry about it all too.
it may seem like doing nothing but its more powerful than a protest these days
ms hope
03-11-2009, 03:25 PM
Mein Kampf, Adolph Hitler said "The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation."
ms hope
04-11-2009, 02:57 PM
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=32275088935&ref=share
more mistakes by social services :mad: