Mass vaccination of school kids to begin

[bluefeather]

Parents in the UK, please brace yourselves...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/6479407/Mass-vaccination-of-schoolchildren-to-stop-spread-of-swine-flu.html

:mad:

Pulling kids out to home educate is not generally feasible in today's economic climate and will refusal mean social services intervention? I suspect so.:mad:

(Sorry mod's - think prob' needs to go in the s/f updates but as it is in today's msn I hope it can stay here for a little while.)

[redskywalker]

WE STAY CALM AND RESOLUTE IN TRUTH.
I've found a stockist close by for colloidal silver and oil of oregano.
:D
The idea of this whole crock of shite was to generate fear, to create panic, worry etc. Amazing we are to them that instead, a huge percentage of us instantly said GTF! and the numbers keep going. Only yesterday my son and I went to the next village, 2 buses hadn't come so their was a few oap's waiting and discussing it. I pulled out the independent and started reading aloud to my boy, [page 26 re-investigate 9/11] in my gruff scots tones, [i'm dan sauf in england now] anyhoo, i'm blethering away, the oldies move onto discussing the little local girl who needs to raise money to goto u.s.a for life saving treatment. They were all appauled that we couldn't do it here and the u.s.a were hiding info! THEN wee old guy stands up from his bench moves in and asks them all who's taking swine flu jab!! I was :D I swear he knew everything, and took great care to make sure everyone else did too. What a wonderfully uplifting 3/4 hour because of a crap service.

3 cheers for ARIVA! never thought i'd say that :p

[antinwo]

There are 9 weeks left in this year. On no I knew this was coming:( Looks like I am going to have to pull my children out of school

[largejack]

Seen this???

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/swine-flu/6467984/People-will-die-after-swine-flu-vaccine---but-its-just-coincidence.html

[antinwo]

Yeah looks like they are trying to cover their backs:rolleyes:

[antinwo]

So do you all think that this mass vaccination of children will take place in schools:confused:

[coldinsomnia]

Yes I saw this on the front page of the Sunday telegraph earlier today.


Things are really accelerating now. I didn't see any mention anywhere in the article of actually giving the kids or the parents the choice of vaccination, all they did was say that they were considering giving every child the vaccination and then continued to bleat about how it will save lives etc.

This, plus what's going on in Ukraine at the moment, something of a bleak picture is being painted right now.... It's important to stay positive.


Watch the full moon! (Nov 2)

[morning]

This is just nuts.

'Pregnant women, those with underlying health conditions, such as heart disease, cancer, asthma and diabetes, as well as NHS staff will be the first to be given the jabs.'

:confused:
:mad:

At least they say '...a decision has not yet been made.' Still, there is going to need to be a strong public resistance to this if they want to start injecting children with this poison. It is just almost hard to believe how wrong this is, if this goes ahead and people go along with this then our society has well and truely gone completely barking mad.

[bluefeather]

So do you all think that this mass vaccination of children will take place in schools:confused:

I don't see why not - they've been rolling out the cervical cancer jab at my daughter's school recently.

[redskywalker]

Yes I saw this on the front page of the Sunday telegraph earlier today.


Things are really accelerating now. I didn't see any mention anywhere in the article of actually giving the kids or the parents the choice of vaccination, all they did was say that they were considering giving every child the vaccination and then continued to bleat about how it will save lives etc.

This, plus what's going on in Ukraine at the moment, something of a bleak picture is being painted right now.... It's important to stay positive.


Watch the full moon! (Nov 2)

cue primal scream:

AAAARRRRRRRGGHYAFUUUUUUUKNBAAAAAASTAARDS!
They shall only keep pushing fear. we shall step aside, they can fall.
Ukraine doesn't look to be swine flu.

[morning]

I don't see why not - they've been rolling out the cervical cancer jab at my daughter's school recently.

:eek: I did not know this was going on.

[bluefeather]

Seen this???

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/swine-flu/6467984/People-will-die-after-swine-flu-vaccine---but-its-just-coincidence.html

Yearrrhh, right.

[antinwo]

I don't see why not - they've been rolling out the cervical cancer jab at my daughter's school recently.

Oh shit. Looks like another run in with the headmistress of my kids school:D

[bluefeather]

:eek: I did not know this was going on.

You would only know if you have a daughter between the age of 11 and 16, or if you'd read the news about the girl that died a few hra after taking the jab a few weeks ago (totally unrelated to the vaccine, of course:rolleyes:)

[bluefeather]

Oh shit. Looks like another run in with the headmistress of my kids school:D

My daughter's school sent out 'permission' letters to parents that had to be signed first.
There has been a few instances where parents have challenged the Head (trying to remember where I've seen it) and the Head has been a bit naughty on the legal angle of his/her reply to the parents.
Should I look for it?

[antinwo]

My daughter's school sent out 'permission' letters to parents that had to be signed first.
There has been a few instances where parents have challenged the Head (trying to remember where I've seen it) and the Head has been a bit naughty on the legal angle of his/her reply to the parents.
Should I look for it?

Yes please:)

[bluefeather]

Yes please:)

LOL! Found it in my favourites on google, but it isn't what I thought it was. (That'll teach me to spend too many hours on the net. :o)
Will post the link however, as it may well be useful for parents. click on 'schhols' link at the top and then into 'parents'. Interesting how schools manipulate the law. (This is a uk site.)


http://www.leavethemkidsalone.com/betrayed.htm

[antinwo]

LOL! Found it in my favourites on google, but it isn't what I thought it was. (That'll teach me to spend too many hours on the net. :o)
Will post the link however, as it may well be useful for parents. click on 'schhols' link at the top and then into 'parents'. Interesting how schools manipulate the law. (This is a uk site.)


http://www.leavethemkidsalone.com/betrayed.htm

Thanks for info:)

[bluefeather]

Thanks for info:)

This was in my favourites too - specifically about that vaccine and bending the rules:

http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/2009/05/31/germany-hpv/

[antinwo]

This was in my favourites too - specifically about that vaccine and bending the rules:

http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/2009/05/31/germany-hpv/

Thanks some good info there:)

[jojo]

over my fucking dead body!! they will NOT be vacinating my child :mad:

[antinwo]

over my fucking dead body!! they will NOT be vacinating my child :mad:

Seconded:)

[godspeed]

Over my dead body....

In the name of LOVE someone STOP them......

[beldazar]

Seconded:)


Thirded :mad:

Thanks for the links Bluefeather :)

[gilly]

Time to start emailing information to all the schools, I reckon, and demanding they observe their moral obligation to research this, rather than going along blindly with government directives. Get them to start shouldering some responsibility.

And I'm with you Jojo - over my dead body! :mad:

[bluefeather]

Time to start emailing information to all the schools, I reckon, and demanding they observe their moral obligation to research this, rather than going along blindly with government directives. Get them to start shouldering some responsibility.

And I'm with you Jojo - over my dead body! :mad:

This would come better from parents themselves - perhaps via a collective simple petition to their children's school. I can see a problem with this too, however, in that your average Head will say that it's the health authority's decision, etc.
Sadly, the govn has an uncanny knack of sucessfully putting public sector managers backs against the wall (by threatening them with the withdrawal of funds for example) if they dare cross the government.

[howie]

I tried to warn a sheeple family about the 1976 vaccine killing people in the US but they told me to shut up & stop trying to scare the kids with my "paranoia", when I said I'd get my laptop & show them proof, they got very angry & warned me for the final time to "shut up about it".

Some (sh)people are so far gone in the brainwashing system that if their local "authority" told them to throw their children off a cliff, they'd do it without question.

Now I can only pray that those children survive the enforced vaccinations without any of the horrific side-effects I'm reading about every day, such as this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR5p_bD3uLc

[wildhorse]

WE STAY CALM AND RESOLUTE IN TRUTH.
I've found a stockist close by for colloidal silver and oil of oregano.
:D
The idea of this whole crock of shite was to generate fear, to create panic, worry etc. Amazing we are to them that instead, a huge percentage of us instantly said GTF! and the numbers keep going. Only yesterday my son and I went to the next village, 2 buses hadn't come so their was a few oap's waiting and discussing it. I pulled out the independent and started reading aloud to my boy, [page 26 re-investigate 9/11] in my gruff scots tones, [i'm dan sauf in england now] anyhoo, i'm blethering away, the oldies move onto discussing the little local girl who needs to raise money to goto u.s.a for life saving treatment. They were all appauled that we couldn't do it here and the u.s.a were hiding info! THEN wee old guy stands up from his bench moves in and asks them all who's taking swine flu jab!! I was :D I swear he knew everything, and took great care to make sure everyone else did too. What a wonderfully uplifting 3/4 hour because of a crap service.

3 cheers for ARIVA! never thought i'd say that :p


great story - i am finding the odd enlightening moment too and its great :)

you shall have to share your contact for the silver and oregano ;)

I have just sent my son a text and told him hes not to have the jab nor have his fingerprints stolen. He said he didnt want it but the teachers have told them they have to have it :mad:......I have told him no-one has the right to stick sludge into your arm if they dont want to. I have also told him on day of vaccinations he is to get the train and come to mine. I got the Headmistress' name and his head of house name....they shall be introduced to me in no uncertain terms tomorrow. They will be threatened with more than legal action.....

fucking bastards mind fucking our children and telling them they have no choice (really pissed off right now)

ok need to find a quick print off - theres one on here and tpuc where they would sign a form in their name to the safety of the vaccine....

[clachan]

over my fucking dead body!! they will NOT be vacinating my child :mad:

Same here.
And Ive already told the school.....NO VACCINE,THE END!!

[candygirl]

Parents in the UK, please brace yourselves...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/6479407/Mass-vaccination-of-schoolchildren-to-stop-spread-of-swine-flu.html

:mad:

Pulling kids out to home educate is not generally feasible in today's economic climate and will refusal mean social services intervention? I suspect so.:mad:

(Sorry mod's - think prob' needs to go in the s/f updates but as it is in today's msn I hope it can stay here for a little while.)

Not always do S.S get involved if one decides to home educate. Usally just education welfare officer is involved and there are ways around that and the EWO does not have any right to see children or even talk to them. Has no right to enter your home either.
If anybody is considering this step my advice is to keep quiet about vaccine (if you don't want S.S involved) just say you feel child is not getting education they require etc.
The S.S are an entity unto themselves and for all we know they have already been prepared for parents refusing the vaccine. Less fuss about the vaccine the better for the sake of your children and keeping the S.S at bay. EWO's are not as bad as social workers even though they do work down the corridor from each other.
Todays economic climate does make it harder to make the descion about home educating most home educators do work from home it's all a balancing act. Or both parents switch to part time (some find this works for them)
The schools really do not have a say do they?
It takes a very broadminded head to buck the system at the risk of their own job and career, for a few who refuse the vaccination when the majority will roll up their sleeves and their kids sleeves and take the shot.

[spongeblip]

I already emailed the head teacher about this over two months ago. He confirmed receipt and asked "why". I stated that I was a "Jehovah Witness" and "allergic to eggs" as was my child. :D If he reneges on that - I will cut him (and/or any anyone who tries to vaccinate my child) with a smile.

I say again:- "Vaccine my child (or try to) = I will cut you and will hurt you and cook your nutz and feed them to you with black pudding on a Sunday morn'..." :D:D:D:D

Did I say that? :eek:

Well don't interfere with my child then. I am my child's keeper and guardian so don't try to step in. Did you help me when I was able to get no sleep with a restless newborn whilst watching BBC News 24 in the twilight hours, or when I had to watch my child watch those fat twats in costumes (teletubbies) 24/7? Then how can you tell me what/who/how/when; when it comes to my child? Did you wake up at 5am with me every morn and help me get my child ready and myself ready to go to work and then off to uni after work to provide a better life for my child? NO NO NO NO :mad::mad:

This world is Tittilage Extraordinaire :mad::mad:

[candygirl]

Trouble is we do not own our children we signed our children over to the state when we registered their birth (un knowingly) well if anyone had of know the truth they would never of registered their children would they?.
I know this may upset some but it is the truth look at freeman on the land if you don't believe me (iam sure most of you have).
Now is the time to De-register your children from the state.
This does not mean they are not entitled to an education or health care not at all.
This is why the S.S have such a free reign and can do what they want cos the state owns the children not the parents who bring them up.
I know you are all gonna scream "parents rights!" well yes you have some to a point it is a very fine line they like to make us think we have the ultimate say in our childrens lives (the ultimate illusion).
I am now probably going to become very unpopuler by saying the state own our children but please research this b4 fireing from the hip.
The birth registration is a fraud because of non disclosure.
So do you think the state really cares about our children? Nope.
So does the state care anything about parents rights? Nope cos parents don't have any.
yep you could sue if your child gets damaged but hey what do they care money made from court cases all goes into the same pot.
De-register your children for their sake now is the time to take control away from the corrupt system, cos, yep you guessed it if the system own your children so does the WHO and we all know what they can do and are doing.

[wakeup2nwo]

Trouble is we do not own our children we signed our children over to the state when we registered their birth (un knowingly) well if anyone had of know the truth they would never of registered their children would they?.
I know this may upset some but it is the truth look at freeman on the land if you don't believe me (iam sure most of you have).
Now is the time to De-register your children from the state.
This does not mean they are not entitled to an education or health care not at all.
This is why the S.S have such a free reign and can do what they want cos the state owns the children not the parents who bring them up.
I know you are all gonna scream "parents rights!" well yes you have some to a point it is a very fine line they like to make us think we have the ultimate say in our childrens lives (the ultimate illusion).
I am now probably going to become very unpopuler by saying the state own our children but please research this b4 fireing from the hip.
The birth registration is a fraud because of non disclosure.
So do you think the state really cares about our children? Nope.
So does the state care anything about parents rights? Nope cos parents don't have any.
yep you could sue if your child gets damaged but hey what do they care money made from court cases all goes into the same pot.
De-register your children for their sake now is the time to take control away from the corrupt system, cos, yep you guessed it if the system own your children so does the WHO and we all know what they can do and are doing.

:eek: I never knew that..:mad:

[spongeblip]

Trouble is we do not own our children we signed our children over to the state when we registered their birth (un knowingly) well if anyone had of know the truth they would never of registered their children would they?.
I know this may upset some but it is the truth look at freeman on the land if you don't believe me (iam sure most of you have).
Now is the time to De-register your children from the state.
This does not mean they are not entitled to an education or health care not at all.
This is why the S.S have such a free reign and can do what they want cos the state owns the children not the parents who bring them up.
I know you are all gonna scream "parents rights!" well yes you have some to a point it is a very fine line they like to make us think we have the ultimate say in our childrens lives (the ultimate illusion).
I am now probably going to become very unpopuler by saying the state own our children but please research this b4 fireing from the hip.
The birth registration is a fraud because of non disclosure.
So do you think the state really cares about our children? Nope.
So does the state care anything about parents rights? Nope cos parents don't have any.
yep you could sue if your child gets damaged but hey what do they care money made from court cases all goes into the same pot.
De-register your children for their sake now is the time to take control away from the corrupt system, cos, yep you guessed it if the system own your children so does the WHO and we all know what they can do and are doing.

How do we do that??? :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

[bluefeather]

Interesting stuff Candygirl. Er, I'd like to know how that's done as well. Home educate, private GP? :confused: If your child is sick or has an accident and you take them to the A and E, surely they will get funny with you if your child isn't 'in the system'; suspicion arouses and s/s called...or not? Intrigued. Someone else on this site mentioned this register stuff before but never developed their explanation properly.

[candygirl]

:eek: I never knew that..:mad:

Yes anything we register we are basically signing over our rights as we are then children to the state. Legally Child is a PERSON legal fiction when child reaches age of majority i.e 18 becomes known as a PERSON.Legal fiction. STRAWMAN.
Once child is registered at birth legally (not lawfully) the child is classed as iligitamate and legally state is the father and mother is spinster????? wtf. Especially if child is born in wedlock (the state owns child even more than if child is born out of wedlock ).
Marriage well yep once we get married we are not actually married to the one we love no no no we (women) are married to the state and marriage is to make profit. Hence why we have to plead with a court to get divorced and involve a third party to get permissionto end the 'contract' like a child asking for sweets.
Now when we were registered and when we registered our children we were joining a society 'Their' society we do not have to remain members of a society if we do not wish to we can leave at any time. Like any club or organisation we have joined. You are not a member of the law society are you? but hey you have to abide by their rules cos of your birth registration.
Birth registration is going into admiralty law so yep anyone who's birth is registered is classed as a 'ship' or vessel berthing at the dock (nice play on words for them).
Common law is law of the land not the sea.
Once we know the truth we have 7 years legally to get out of contract.
As far as i am concerned i do not recognise 'Leagalise' Law society langauge. so therefore in my Notice of understanding and Intent claim of rights i have stated that anything i registered is now de-registered due to non disclosure of the contract. Due to non disclosure all contracts are null and void.
because of my Notice i have made Common Law law of the land. I have had no rebutts to my Notice and time has now elapsed for any rebutts so it stands as fact.
My Notice of Understanding of course includes my heirs until such time they themselves can compile their own i as there gaurdian am doing it on their behalf.
Then i have written a Copyright &Trademark and a Fee schedule eg. If i or any of my heirs are forced with vaccination or tazared the fee is £10 million in gold bullion.
Now i am not stuiped if they have a gun to my head and a needle in my arm they aint gonna care about my notice cos i'll probably be dead b4 i can bill anyone.
But it's worth a go the figure of £10 mill in gold scares most robots off including courts. This tack may just buy us all some time....
It's working with my debt btw. If more humans leave this so called society just maybe it could get us all somewhere.
My main concern is the children who do not have a voice they are our future and we all have to at least try with whatever tools we have.
paper and Words are very powerful if we know how to use them for our own good they can bring down anything.
The system uses paper and words against us dosn't it?

[antace000]

To all under 18s? They could try and stick that needle in me, they'd end up drinking their meals through a straw the rest of their meaningless lives, but they could try. ;)

[largejack]

Trouble is we do not own our children we signed our children over to the state when we registered their birth (un knowingly) well if anyone had of know the truth they would never of registered their children would they?.
I know this may upset some but it is the truth look at freeman on the land if you don't believe me (iam sure most of you have).
Now is the time to De-register your children from the state.
This does not mean they are not entitled to an education or health care not at all.
This is why the S.S have such a free reign and can do what they want cos the state owns the children not the parents who bring them up.
I know you are all gonna scream "parents rights!" well yes you have some to a point it is a very fine line they like to make us think we have the ultimate say in our childrens lives (the ultimate illusion).
I am now probably going to become very unpopuler by saying the state own our children but please research this b4 fireing from the hip.
The birth registration is a fraud because of non disclosure.
So do you think the state really cares about our children? Nope.
So does the state care anything about parents rights? Nope cos parents don't have any.
yep you could sue if your child gets damaged but hey what do they care money made from court cases all goes into the same pot.
De-register your children for their sake now is the time to take control away from the corrupt system, cos, yep you guessed it if the system own your children so does the WHO and we all know what they can do and are doing.

Well in that case they're going to have to come out and say we own your children, and then people might say "No you don't you psychotic nutters."

And when they say "yes we do."

People will turn to them and say "Sorry, but that is fraud, it doesn't state anywhere that "if you sign this form, we own your children."

Then people will be mightily pissed off... or they should be.

Alternatively they will have to keep quiet to hide their dirty secret, but how then will they be able to force us ?

A dilemma for them surely.

[graflok]

I tried to warn a sheeple family about the 1976 vaccine killing people in the US but they told me to shut up & stop trying to scare the kids with my "paranoia", when I said I'd get my laptop & show them proof, they got very angry & warned me for the final time to "shut up about it".

Some (sh)people are so far gone in the brainwashing system that if their local "authority" told them to throw their children off a cliff, they'd do it without question.



Yes, "conspiracy theories" scare people.

And, it's not really the "theory" that scares them. What scares them is
what the "theory" implies about the world around them. And, what makes
them say "shut up" is that, deep down, they know it's true.

[largejack]

To all under 18s? They could try and stick that needle in me, they'd end up drinking their meals through a straw the rest of their meaningless lives, but they could try. ;)

You're from Grimsby, I believe you ;)

[candygirl]

Interesting stuff Candygirl. Er, I'd like to know how that's done as well. Home educate, private GP? :confused: If your child is sick or has an accident and you take them to the A and E, surely they will get funny with you if your child isn't 'in the system'; suspicion arouses and s/s called...or not? Intrigued. Someone else on this site mentioned this register stuff before but never developed their explanation properly.

I totally agree with with regards to A&E not in system so suspicious must call S.S.
Bear in mind the S.S are gov agents therefore working in admiralty law not Common law the Notice of Intent Claim of rights NOUICRs for short and fee scehdule covers that cos any social worker, gov agent etc forcing admiralty on you or your heirs get your bill of say £10 million in gold bullion (i don't think social worker wages cover that for a start or police wages for that matter). Each gov agent who is involved gets billed btw if payment is not recived within 21 days the bill is x's3 and so on and so forth.
(maybe that's why gov have decided to break up RBS and Lloyds cos RBS most certainly owe me £60,000 and bill is rising lol I have waited for 2 months.)
My children and i would use a private GP if needs must.
Doctors are gov agents cos they work for the state hence the PCT so i feel it's time we demanded our medical records as they are ours and we are able to look after our own affairs and employ whomever we decide to deal with us mediacally.
I have set up a family trust to enable free health care. Family trust can be used for anything.
Anyway doctors are not here to make us well really are they? I wouldn't trust em as far as i could throw them.
Your children can still be de-registered and still be entitled to free health care and education (it's our god given right like water) so if god forbid A&E is required one can jump back into system your children still have their N.I number regardless (cos it makes the system money and the system aint gonna give that up easily).
Education is also our god given right and should be free we just got duped and had to take out student loans etc when all along it was already paid for!.
What you are doing is claiming that you are a human being not a fictional entity PERSON capable of dealing with your own affairs etc. You do not need this Nanny state with all it's admiralty Acts & Statutes.
Common law 3 laws
Admiralty law 10's of thousands of ACTS. Law society rules.

[candygirl]

Well in that case they're going to have to come out and say we own your children, and then people might say "No you don't you psychotic nutters."

And when they say "yes we do."

People will turn to them and say "Sorry, but that is fraud, it doesn't state anywhere that "if you sign this form, we own your children."

Then people will be mightily pissed off... or they should be.

Alternatively they will have to keep quiet to hide their dirty secret, but how then will they be able to force us ?

A dilemma for them surely.
Quite and yes they would have to come out and say "yes we own your children and we own you! it's in the small print in Legalise did you miss it? tough!"
But They are too clever for that and will bring in another Act to force us or the ultimate fine us, i'm thinking when they step up their plan perhaps or worst of all throw us in jail steal the kids and vaccinate regardless. They will justb blind everyone with double speak to divert away from the real truth that you your children are employees of the state and have a contract of employment hence the benefit system etc.
Question is how far are they prepared to go?

[gestaltdude]

I was ondering if anyone has any demogrphical data on what per centage of the population is under 15.

I ak because in the article posted at the beginning of the threat it sttes that 20% of swine flu cases where in kids under 15. Is this out of proportion to the said percentages, or is it like saying that 20% of sickdays are taken on a monday, (assuming noone works weekend,), ie the percentge given makes up the total percentage relative to the whole.

Hope this is clear, only just woke up. If any clarity needed, please let me know.

PS Of course the whole thing is bollocks anyway.

PPS Does anyone know what the rules (read laws) are regarding divorced parents disagreeing on vaccinations.

[candygirl]

I was ondering if anyone has any demogrphical data on what per centage of the population is under 15.

I ak because in the article posted at the beginning of the threat it sttes that 20% of swine flu cases where in kids under 15. Is this out of proportion to the said percentages, or is it like saying that 20% of sickdays are taken on a monday, (assuming noone works weekend,), ie the percentge given makes up the total percentage relative to the whole.

Hope this is clear, only just woke up. If any clarity needed, please let me know.

PS Of course the whole thing is bollocks anyway.

PPS Does anyone know what the rules (read laws) are regarding divorced parents disagreeing on vaccinations.
Well i am no lawyer i don't work in leagalise i do know law of the land.
Now legally i think the parent with parental responsability can decide to vaccinate or not.
You could take it through the courts but they are not on your side cos it's now a public health issue.
As a freeman on the land in my Notice of Understanding and Intent Claim of rights i have stated that my heirs understand what a vaccination is and understand they do not wish to have one and the fee schedule will be applied to any gov agents etc and the other parent if forced against their will without notarised consent and 3 witness's and sealed.
This has been served upon my ex and needless to say it has made my ex and lawyers think twice.

[wakeup2nwo]

Yes anything we register we are basically signing over our rights as we are then children to the state. Legally Child is a PERSON legal fiction when child reaches age of majority i.e 18 becomes known as a PERSON.Legal fiction. STRAWMAN.
Once child is registered at birth legally (not lawfully) the child is classed as iligitamate and legally state is the father and mother is spinster????? wtf. Especially if child is born in wedlock (the state owns child even more than if child is born out of wedlock ).
Marriage well yep once we get married we are not actually married to the one we love no no no we (women) are married to the state and marriage is to make profit. Hence why we have to plead with a court to get divorced and involve a third party to get permissionto end the 'contract' like a child asking for sweets.
Now when we were registered and when we registered our children we were joining a society 'Their' society we do not have to remain members of a society if we do not wish to we can leave at any time. Like any club or organisation we have joined. You are not a member of the law society are you? but hey you have to abide by their rules cos of your birth registration.
Birth registration is going into admiralty law so yep anyone who's birth is registered is classed as a 'ship' or vessel berthing at the dock (nice play on words for them).
Common law is law of the land not the sea.
Once we know the truth we have 7 years legally to get out of contract.
As far as i am concerned i do not recognise 'Leagalise' Law society langauge. so therefore in my Notice of understanding and Intent claim of rights i have stated that anything i registered is now de-registered due to non disclosure of the contract. Due to non disclosure all contracts are null and void.
because of my Notice i have made Common Law law of the land. I have had no rebutts to my Notice and time has now elapsed for any rebutts so it stands as fact.
My Notice of Understanding of course includes my heirs until such time they themselves can compile their own i as there gaurdian am doing it on their behalf.
Then i have written a Copyright &Trademark and a Fee schedule eg. If i or any of my heirs are forced with vaccination or tazared the fee is £10 million in gold bullion.
Now i am not stuiped if they have a gun to my head and a needle in my arm they aint gonna care about my notice cos i'll probably be dead b4 i can bill anyone.
But it's worth a go the figure of £10 mill in gold scares most robots off including courts. This tack may just buy us all some time....
It's working with my debt btw. If more humans leave this so called society just maybe it could get us all somewhere.
My main concern is the children who do not have a voice they are our future and we all have to at least try with whatever tools we have.
paper and Words are very powerful if we know how to use them for our own good they can bring down anything.
The system uses paper and words against us dosn't it?

thanks for the info, we dont have any kids yet but ill now what to do when we do have them! :cool:

[candygirl]

thanks for the info, we dont have any kids yet but ill now what to do when we do have them! :cool:

Good for you!.
I wish i had never of got married now i know the truth that i as a woman am owned by the state fully cos of marriage and my marriage cert is being used for profit and my children's father legally is the frigging state! not their biological father! Like he was some kind of sperm donar that's it all he is it makes me mad:mad:
But i am rectifying as much as i can cos of being duped!.
Worth looking into and on the freeman on the land somebody has asked about their babies registration and what to do.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84066

[richmick]

Listen up people. There comes a time when we need to stop running around in circles, waiting for the next book release from the conspiracy research gurus, speakers, whatever. We haven;t got time, the vaccines are coming in around the world now, not after the next great revelation. There comes a time when you have to take the next step forward in belief. We are constantly being told we have a say in how this world runs, through the power of the soul/mind/heart connections. Well the more we grow in fear and feel helpless, the more they have won. I am even folly to wrong thinking. It's time you all started to correct your thinking. It's NOW time to start truly believing you can make a difference. We are like mice in a cage running on the treadmill. It's time to get off that treadmill, tear down the bars and free your mind. I rarely hear people acting on their belief, that they have a say in creating the reality we all desire. So NOW, start changing the mind chatter from, oh shit they have started this, oh shit here comes the NWO, oh shit we are beaten...Don't you see, if every thought manifests, or adds to the manifested reality we live in, then places like this can dramatically add to the idea that 'they' have won, simply through wrong thinking.

Stop the fear, it's hard i know, but for every fear thought you have, create two positive thoughts to counteract the negative. I say the illuminatti are majorly fucked. I say the DNA in the people awakens now and it's intelligence morphs in structure, to make the vaccines impotent in all who have it. We are all one, but not the same. We are connected in the energy fields of creation. Time to start believing, monitor your thoughts, and with each fear thought put out 2 positive, love filled thoughts...We are not helping anyone with words of fear, defeatism or acceptance of disastrous outcome. In my minds eye i see the NWO elite, ILLUMINATTI whatever, seriously in trouble...their 'karma' has been released and their plans are in rapid decay....Thats what i see...What do you see? Live your truth, Don't prattle on about it like it's a nice idea...Like i said, i do this myself. It's wrong thinking...I'm trying to change this now, especially since the news coming out is creating fear and i reject fear..We should still discuss, but try to end each thread with a positive thought form...Right, enough said...I'm off to bed:)

[candygirl]

Listen up people. There comes a time when we need to stop running around in circles, waiting for the next book release from the conspiracy research gurus, speakers, whatever. We haven;t got time, the vaccines are coming in around the world now, not after the next great revelation. There comes a time when you have to take the next step forward in belief. We are constantly being told we have a say in how this world runs, through the power of the soul/mind/heart connections. Well the more we grow in fear and feel helpless, the more they have won. I am even folly to wrong thinking. It's time you all started to correct your thinking. It's NOW time to start truly believing you can make a difference. We are like mice in a cage running on the treadmill. It's time to get off that treadmill, tear down the bars and free your mind. I rarely hear people acting on their belief, that they have a say in creating the reality we all desire. So NOW, start changing the mind chatter from, oh shit they have started this, oh shit here comes the NWO, oh shit we are beaten...Don't you see, if every thought manifests, or adds to the manifested reality we live in, then places like this can dramatically add to the idea that 'they' have won, simply through wrong thinking.

Stop the fear, it's hard i know, but for every fear thought you have, create two positive thoughts to counteract the negative. I say the illuminatti are majorly fucked. I say the DNA in the people awakens now and it's intelligence morphs in structure, to make the vaccines impotent in all who have it. We are all one, but not the same. We are connected in the energy fields of creation. Time to start believing, monitor your thoughts, and with each fear thought put out 2 positive, love filled thoughts...We are not helping anyone with words of fear, defeatism or acceptance of disastrous outcome. In my minds eye i see the NWO elite, ILLUMINATTI whatever, seriously in trouble...their 'karma' has been released and their plans are in rapid decay....Thats what i see...What do you see? Live your truth, Don't prattle on about it like it's a nice idea...Like i said, i do this myself. It's wrong thinking...I'm trying to change this now, especially since the news coming out is creating fear and i reject fear..We should still discuss, but try to end each thread with a positive thought form...Right, enough said...I'm off to bed:)

I agree. The freeman on the land concept takes away the fear whenyou start to learn the real truth about the corrupt system we all live under.
Being a freeman on the land can give us power and once you become a freeman no more fear simple as that.
Their plans are in total decay and the more freemen there are the more the rot sets into their plans and control.
There is always a remedy in common law and that is a powerful thought.
When i said in my last post about being owned by the state it might of sounded negative and in some ways it is but on a grander scale relising the actual truth suddenly sets us free which in my mind is the most postive thought one can ever posess.
Freeman on the land takes off the chains of enslavement, now that is positive.
if you weren't refferring to my posts i apologise in advance for getting the wrong end of the stick.
peace
cg

[montag]

There are 9 weeks left in this year. On no I knew this was coming:( Looks like I am going to have to pull my children out of school
Why? I didn't see anything in that article about it being mandatory, just say no thanks.

[candygirl]

Why? I didn't see anything in that article about it being mandatory, just say no thanks.

maybe easier said than done considering the WHO are now in complete control of this so called Pandemic 6 and if the WHO says jump we will all have to say how high? the goverments really do not have a say on how this vaccination programme will be run cos of the level 6.
I think enough people will be in enough fear and will take the vaccine anyway so it may rule out mandatory vaccination. me hopes
Does anyone remember the whooping cough vaccination drive back in the 70's? Did the WHO talk about a pandemic then?
I had the shot and i got whooping cough btw so did my mother. Did anyone else have that vaccination?
My mother was definatly coerced into having that jab back then cos she worked with children.

[itsallundercontrol]

Anyone would think they want this virus to mutate....(lol)
First the totally inappropiate and irresponsible use of anti virals.
Followed by the injecting of the most frequent and rapid spreaders of illness there are-children.
Not enough people or there children will refuse this vaccine,not enough to stop the mutations becoming established once the cold weather sets in.
Then it won't matter who takes it or not.It never really did.

Things I feel will become a little clearer sometime around the 4th-5th nov
Don't take the vaccine

[paolo]

I've got two boys 12 and 14. They wont be getting the vaccine
I'm a frontline health worker, so to speak
I wont be getting it either

[cleopatraxxx]

I've got two boys 12 and 14. They wont be getting the vaccine
I'm a frontline health worker, so to speak
I wont be getting it either

nice to know that

well, here at home, i cannot open my mouth to speak anything about this subject. my husband totally refuses to hear about any development. says the vaccination will never be forced. that he is not going to take it. talks not a word about this stuff with his mates at the Pub and i am withdrawing my son from school due to the fear they will spray him without asking for consent.
so as from tomorrow he is not going there anymore, and at least i have a great excuse being a foreigner: we are flying away back to where we came from. i am telling the school we are flying next week. in reality we only do at the end of the month. when i told my husband that being foreigners they cannot force us to stop going to school, he said, not really because he has already started it and so they have some rights of keeping him in school.

when i mentioned to thim about this "government owning us and our kids", he slammed the door, said he had enough, that he is tired of me having these themes on a daily basis as my only conversation (which is not true, amongst other things he also does not want me to talk about anything, almost as if i am so uninteresting to even talk to... :-( )) ...anyway, shit happens.
One thing i do know and the shit has hit the fan in the USA with emergency declared officially, with the shit in the Ukraine also having the emergency declared there... when i used to tell my husband this is going to happen, he said, i was nuts because i read it from the DI website, now that FACTS are in the main MEDIA< he nows tells me that the MSM are liars! so in none of the cases i am right... but events are unfolding anyway... and the fact that i am travelling back "home" is great, i am seriously considering not to return under all these circumstances...

i hope no one else is going through shit with their loved ones due to being awake and in the know and worried with the shit we are forced to live with from our governments.

Regards to all who are so worried and providing their opinions and info on all these subjects.
Cleo

[wildhorse]

nice to know that

well, here at home, i cannot open my mouth to speak anything about this subject. my husband totally refuses to hear about any development. says the vaccination will never be forced. that he is not going to take it. talks not a word about this stuff with his mates at the Pub and i am withdrawing my son from school due to the fear they will spray him without asking for consent.
so as from tomorrow he is not going there anymore, and at least i have a great excuse being a foreigner: we are flying away back to where we came from. i am telling the school we are flying next week. in reality we only do at the end of the month. when i told my husband that being foreigners they cannot force us to stop going to school, he said, not really because he has already started it and so they have some rights of keeping him in school.

when i mentioned to thim about this "government owning us and our kids", he slammed the door, said he had enough, that he is tired of me having these themes on a daily basis as my only conversation (which is not true, amongst other things he also does not want me to talk about anything, almost as if i am so uninteresting to even talk to... :-( )) ...anyway, shit happens.
One thing i do know and the shit has hit the fan in the USA with emergency declared officially, with the shit in the Ukraine also having the emergency declared there... when i used to tell my husband this is going to happen, he said, i was nuts because i read it from the DI website, now that FACTS are in the main MEDIA< he nows tells me that the MSM are liars! so in none of the cases i am right... but events are unfolding anyway... and the fact that i am travelling back "home" is great, i am seriously considering not to return under all these circumstances...

i hope no one else is going through shit with their loved ones due to being awake and in the know and worried with the shit we are forced to live with from our governments.

Regards to all who are so worried and providing their opinions and info on all these subjects.
Cleo

i am so sorry you are going through this shit cleo :( it must be awful trying to inform your family and getting grief for it....all you want is their safety and health - please stay strong and I would leave talking about it. I dont know where you have come from, but one day these problems will arise there and you will have to face it again...but at least you will have bought some time to say "look, I told you so"

I couldnt be with someone who didnt get it....but thats me

candygirl...you are so right in what you say, as the SS dragged me down the registry office with the trick that i might get to see my newborn baby...of course I didnt, but they got my siggy. I am not freeman status and not in a position to be as yet, but I want to de-register my baby under common law.

I dont know where she is at all (I am sending emails to 'after adoption' to find out where) If she is still in care I would have a better chance than if she is with her narcissist "father" as he would prob have signed a new birth registration. I have the original when he didnt want to know my daughter.

I just hope I can de-reg her and maybe stand a chance

then I will take my info to other mothers like me


I also contacted my sons school bout vaccinations, who passed the book to the school nurse, who said it wasnt a school thing but a GP thing. :rolleyes: Ahhhh so why did my son say his school said they had to get it done then?

BS feeding.

I did say if there was so much as a mark on him I would be taking legal action - she was bit flabbergasted at this

but not once did she try and sing the praises of the vaccine or try and attempt to justify its existence....says it all for me.

[tracker]

Parents in the UK, please brace yourselves...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/6479407/Mass-vaccination-of-schoolchildren-to-stop-spread-of-swine-flu.html

:mad:

Pulling kids out to home educate is not generally feasible in today's economic climate and will refusal mean social services intervention? I suspect so.:mad:

(Sorry mod's - think prob' needs to go in the s/f updates but as it is in today's msn I hope it can stay here for a little while.)


so the stats show that quote ;

A total of 217 children have been treated in hospital, including 27 who are in critical care. Overall, the number of new cases in England increased by 50 per cent last week to 78,000.

this means
devide 100 by 78000 then multiply by 27 = 0.0346153 % people have crytical conditions ( not death ) from swine flu .

on these stats
there are about 50,000,000 people in the UK .
devide 50,000,000 by 100 and multiply it by the 0.0346153% above .

thats ----------if every one refused the swine flu jab --a possible 17307 can end up crytical ( not always dead ) from swine flu ----------at the given rate of stats .

Its just not worth it .

if it was -------------- polio / diptheria / other eair born viruses ----maybe .
but this is a simple flu .

160,000 people die each year from normal yearly flu , how does 17307 in crytical conditions ( not dead conditions ) make is viable to make mass enoculations ?
its only a difference of about 1000 people .

its all bollocks !
and by the way ---that 27 which calculations were based on -----------is only crytical care -------not death !
:cool:

[antistate]

so the stats show that quote ;

A total of 217 children have been treated in hospital, including 27 who are in critical care. Overall, the number of new cases in England increased by 50 per cent last week to 78,000.

this means
devide 100 by 78000 then multiply by 27 = 0.0346153 % people have crytical conditions ( not death ) from swine flu .

on these stats
there are about 50,000,000 people in the UK .
devide 50,000,000 by 100 and multiply it by the 0.0346153% above .

thats ----------if every one refused the swine flu jab --a possible 17307 can end up crytical ( not always dead ) from swine flu ----------at the given rate of stats .

Its just not worth it .

if it was -------------- polio / diptheria / other eair born viruses ----maybe .
but this is a simple flu .

160,000 people die each year from normal yearly flu , how does 17307 in crytical conditions ( not dead conditions ) make is viable to make mass enoculations ?
its only a difference of about 1000 people .

its all bollocks !
and by the way ---that 27 which calculations were based on -----------is only crytical care -------not death !
:cool:bump

[mitch_lane]

Just to sidline for a moment, regarding registration in general and not just for births. If you check the DVLA V62 Form, which is for applying for a vehicle registration certificate you'll notice that nowhere on that form does it call you the owner of that vehicle, it merely calls the person applying the keeper of the vehicle. Doesn't matter if someone has given you the car or notorcycle or whatever or even if you have paid money for it you are still not identified as the owner, only the keeper. So who exactly are you keeping this car for?. To my way of thinking it is the same set up as candygirl is describing regarding the registration of births. You are handing over your vehicle to the state in the same way that children are handed over. Think about it; if you actually owned your car could the state just take it and crush it because you have left it off road untaxed without notifying them?. They can only do that because they are the true owners of the vehicle and you are merely looking after it- keeping it- for them.

[burnttoast]

maybe easier said than done considering the WHO are now in complete control of this so called Pandemic 6 and if the WHO says jump we will all have to say how high? the goverments really do not have a say on how this vaccination programme will be run cos of the level 6.
I think enough people will be in enough fear and will take the vaccine anyway so it may rule out mandatory vaccination. me hopes
Does anyone remember the whooping cough vaccination drive back in the 70's? Did the WHO talk about a pandemic then?
I had the shot and i got whooping cough btw so did my mother. Did anyone else have that vaccination?
My mother was definatly coerced into having that jab back then cos she worked with children.

Who is this WHO (I know what they are) and why does this make believe piece of fiction have any authority of any kind?...Seriously, they CANNOT MANDATE A VACCINE OR THEY ARE HELD LIABLE!!!!...it's to protect THEM NOT YOU!!!!....everything is done voluntarily....

WHEN YOU GET A CONSENT FORM FROM YOUR SCHOOL OR HEALTH BOARD FOR VACCINATING YOUR CHILD....NOW LISTEN UP KIDS....YOU CAN DO ONE OF THE FOLLOWING...(AND ABOUT 800 thousand other things)

- Write DO NOT before CONSENT and SIGN..or

- Write Accept CONSENT upon full liability of the SCHOOL BOARD AND HEALTH BOARD AND IT"S AGENTS TO A SUM OF 10 BILLION DOLLARS OR POUNDS should I or my Child fall ill with in 25 years of vaccine implementation (Sound Ridiculous? Well so is volunteering to have an evasive surgical procedure of Mercury, Fromaldihyde and Aborted fetuses flushed into your blood stream with absolutely no obligation in LAW to do so!!!!!)

CONTRACT = LAW, LAW = CONTRACT.....they offer, you counter offer in honour....the world is magical...and in reality a non existent manifestation is causing fear, when all it takes is for your humanity to start shining through to get over the hurdle of it all....

IF YOU DO NOTHING...YOU ARE CONSENTING!!!!!!!!...simply respond in honour, don't argue, don't fight......COUNTER OFFER AND DEPOSE THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Peace

[cleopatraxxx]

Just to sidline for a moment, regarding registration in general and not just for births. If you check the DVLA V62 Form, which is for applying for a vehicle registration certificate you'll notice that nowhere on that form does it call you the owner of that vehicle, it merely calls the person applying the keeper of the vehicle. Doesn't matter if someone has given you the car or notorcycle or whatever or even if you have paid money for it you are still not identified as the owner, only the keeper. So who exactly are you keeping this car for?. To my way of thinking it is the same set up as candygirl is describing regarding the registration of births. You are handing over your vehicle to the state in the same way that children are handed over. Think about it; if you actually owned your car could the state just take it and crush it because you have left it off road untaxed without notifying them?. They can only do that because they are the true owners of the vehicle and you are merely looking after it- keeping it- for them.

you are totally right...keepr, not owner. these are two different concepts...
Thanks for bringing into comparison! brilliant :-) sad, but true though...

[paolo]

Hi cleo. Two bust ups of relationships occurred for me because I could no longer speak to my partner about anything real. At least my last partner, she agrees with me about keeping the two boys away from vaccines, which they've never had
They are very healthy and there's no intention to let this happen

[decode reality]

Listen up people. There comes a time when we need to stop running around in circles, waiting for the next book release from the conspiracy research gurus, speakers, whatever. We haven;t got time, the vaccines are coming in around the world now, not after the next great revelation. There comes a time when you have to take the next step forward in belief. We are constantly being told we have a say in how this world runs, through the power of the soul/mind/heart connections. Well the more we grow in fear and feel helpless, the more they have won. I am even folly to wrong thinking. It's time you all started to correct your thinking. It's NOW time to start truly believing you can make a difference. We are like mice in a cage running on the treadmill. It's time to get off that treadmill, tear down the bars and free your mind. I rarely hear people acting on their belief, that they have a say in creating the reality we all desire. So NOW, start changing the mind chatter from, oh shit they have started this, oh shit here comes the NWO, oh shit we are beaten...Don't you see, if every thought manifests, or adds to the manifested reality we live in, then places like this can dramatically add to the idea that 'they' have won, simply through wrong thinking.

Stop the fear, it's hard i know, but for every fear thought you have, create two positive thoughts to counteract the negative. I say the illuminatti are majorly fucked. I say the DNA in the people awakens now and it's intelligence morphs in structure, to make the vaccines impotent in all who have it. We are all one, but not the same. We are connected in the energy fields of creation. Time to start believing, monitor your thoughts, and with each fear thought put out 2 positive, love filled thoughts...We are not helping anyone with words of fear, defeatism or acceptance of disastrous outcome. In my minds eye i see the NWO elite, ILLUMINATTI whatever, seriously in trouble...their 'karma' has been released and their plans are in rapid decay....Thats what i see...What do you see? Live your truth, Don't prattle on about it like it's a nice idea...Like i said, i do this myself. It's wrong thinking...I'm trying to change this now, especially since the news coming out is creating fear and i reject fear..We should still discuss, but try to end each thread with a positive thought form...Right, enough said...I'm off to bed:)

Well said, I really connected with this post.

[decode reality]

nice to know that

well, here at home, i cannot open my mouth to speak anything about this subject. my husband totally refuses to hear about any development. says the vaccination will never be forced. that he is not going to take it. talks not a word about this stuff with his mates at the Pub and i am withdrawing my son from school due to the fear they will spray him without asking for consent.
so as from tomorrow he is not going there anymore, and at least i have a great excuse being a foreigner: we are flying away back to where we came from. i am telling the school we are flying next week. in reality we only do at the end of the month. when i told my husband that being foreigners they cannot force us to stop going to school, he said, not really because he has already started it and so they have some rights of keeping him in school.

when i mentioned to thim about this "government owning us and our kids", he slammed the door, said he had enough, that he is tired of me having these themes on a daily basis as my only conversation (which is not true, amongst other things he also does not want me to talk about anything, almost as if i am so uninteresting to even talk to... :-( )) ...anyway, shit happens.
One thing i do know and the shit has hit the fan in the USA with emergency declared officially, with the shit in the Ukraine also having the emergency declared there... when i used to tell my husband this is going to happen, he said, i was nuts because i read it from the DI website, now that FACTS are in the main MEDIA< he nows tells me that the MSM are liars! so in none of the cases i am right... but events are unfolding anyway... and the fact that i am travelling back "home" is great, i am seriously considering not to return under all these circumstances...

i hope no one else is going through shit with their loved ones due to being awake and in the know and worried with the shit we are forced to live with from our governments.

Regards to all who are so worried and providing their opinions and info on all these subjects.
Cleo

Cleo, I'm also sorry to hear about how this is affecting things at home and it's very open of you to share it.

It actually makes me proud that you and many other parents here have your minds clear enough to see what this thing is all about.

As for me, although I don't have any children, any attempts I've made over the past 6-7 months to inform family, friends and colleagues has been met with a wall of silence. So I don't bother now.

I wonder if things reach a point where they will want everyone to get it- all people in the workplace, for instance?

Refuse at all costs...we don't know how successful they'll be in implementing their plans...hopefully there's a massive cock-up for them down the line.

[cleopatraxxx]

Cleo, I'm also sorry to hear about how this is affecting things at home and it's very open of you to share it.

It actually makes me proud that you and many other parents here have your minds clear enough to see what this thing is all about.

As for me, although I don't have any children, any attempts I've made over the past 6-7 months to inform family, friends and colleagues has been met with a wall of silence. So I don't bother now.

I wonder if things reach a point where they will want everyone to get it- all people in the workplace, for instance?

Refuse at all costs...we don't know how successful they'll be in implementing their plans...hopefully there's a massive cock-up for them down the line.

If we do not make others aware of how things are in reality, be it at home regarding rthis subject, be it at work with colleagues who laugh behind the back, then how will we know? when will we make others aware of how bad things have become? be it on a personal level, be it on a professional level.
as someonesaid here before "Time is running out". I never was affraid to talk and never will stop. truth is truth and no matter how bad it is it is still truth. for things not to get worst we ahve to share, get united, feel supported. I think the iluminati know that these topics will divide people, even amongst their families and friends. AND AS SOMEONE MENTIONED, BY NOT ACTING WE SHOW THEM THAT WE HAVE BEEN DEFEATED. i mean action= the simple fact that we talk about it as much as we can to those wANTING TO LISTEN.

the clock never stops
time is ticking
their agenda is being pushed forward
and we are the only ones who can stop it by refusing it...the swine flu shot, the microchipping, their growing dictatorship...unfortunately by the day all around looks like a fascist estate rising from all corners... :-(

Thank you for your support decode reality :-)

Thanks to all for the comments
that is what we are here for: learn and share

Cleo

[decode reality]

If we do not make others aware of how things are in reality, be it at home regarding rthis subject, be it at work with colleagues who laugh behind the back, then how will we know? when will we make others aware of how bad things have become? be it on a personal level, be it on a professional level.
as someonesaid here before "Time is running out". I never was affraid to talk and never will stop. truth is truth and no matter how bad it is it is still truth. for things not to get worst we ahve to share, get united, feel supported. I think the iluminati know that these topics will divide people, even amongst their families and friends. AND AS SOMEONE MENTIONED, BY NOT ACTING WE SHOW THEM THAT WE HAVE BEEN DEFEATED. i mean action= the simple fact that we talk about it as much as we can to those wANTING TO LISTEN.

the clock never stops
time is ticking
their agenda is being pushed forward
and we are the only ones who can stop it by refusing it...the swine flu shot, the microchipping, their growing dictatorship...unfortunately by the day all around looks like a fascist estate rising from all corners... :-(

Thank you for your support decode reality :-)

Thanks to all for the comments
that is what we are here for: learn and share

Cleo

Cleo, I hear you. It's about putting seeds in front of people. I can't tell anyone 'don't take it' because that's their choice and I doubt that approach would work with 99.9% of people. I can still let them know what I know, what they aren't being told.

But there's times when for your own sanity and well being that you have to detach...there's times when people put the walls up and you have to walk away and look after yourself.

Arguing it out with people who are just NOT going to agree- in fact people who are going to disagree either because they're convinced your 'paranoid' (or to save their face) is DRAINING.

But by all means, do what you have to do for yourself and your young one...stand your ground...I'm sure there will be the opportunity to show others WHY you're taking your stance.

Get ready for situations like this- in fact you're probably in one right now- we all are in different ways.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsZpdUUdd3I

[decode reality]

Isn't it sad how people will HATE YOU if you so much as tell a joke over their religion? They might even kill you. :mad:

Isn't it pathetic that people will fight someone who just happens to support a different sodding football team? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

But if you start dropping some facts and truth on them that runs contrary to what they're programmed to believe, they are docile as trained pets. . They look at you like you're nuts. Really, there are people who are ready to kick ass over religion and football, but they are docile as sheep over these REAL issues.

And I do hope no-one's going to get politically correct on me by saying "oh, how condescending to talk about another human being as though they're an animal". This is the truth, this is how we are. :(

[beldazar]

Cleo, I hear you. It's about putting seeds in front of people. I can't tell anyone 'don't take it' because that's their choice and I doubt that approach would work with 99.9% of people. I can still let them know what I know, what they aren't being told.

But there's times when for your own sanity and well being that you have to detach...there's times when people put the walls up and you have to walk away and look after yourself.

Arguing it out with people who are just NOT going to agree- in fact people who are going to disagree either because they're convinced your 'paranoid' (or to save their face) is DRAINING.

But by all means, do what you have to do for yourself and your young one...stand your ground...I'm sure there will be the opportunity to show others WHY you're taking your stance.

Get ready for situations like this- in fact you're probably in one right now- we all are in different ways.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsZpdUUdd3I

Good postDecode reality, I agree


I'm also really sorry to hear your predicament Cleo, it must be very difficult for you :(

[antinwo]

Just to sidline for a moment, regarding registration in general and not just for births. If you check the DVLA V62 Form, which is for applying for a vehicle registration certificate you'll notice that nowhere on that form does it call you the owner of that vehicle, it merely calls the person applying the keeper of the vehicle. Doesn't matter if someone has given you the car or notorcycle or whatever or even if you have paid money for it you are still not identified as the owner, only the keeper. So who exactly are you keeping this car for?. To my way of thinking it is the same set up as candygirl is describing regarding the registration of births. You are handing over your vehicle to the state in the same way that children are handed over. Think about it; if you actually owned your car could the state just take it and crush it because you have left it off road untaxed without notifying them?. They can only do that because they are the true owners of the vehicle and you are merely looking after it- keeping it- for them.

OMG so true I had my car taken away four years ago because of this:mad:

[antinwo]

Isn't it sad how people will HATE YOU if you so much as tell a joke over their religion? They might even kill you. :mad:

Isn't it pathetic that people will fight someone who just happens to support a different sodding football team? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

But if you start dropping some facts and truth on them that runs contrary to what they're programmed to believe, they are docile as trained pets. . They look at you like you're nuts. Really, there are people who are ready to kick ass over religion and football, but they are docile as sheep over these REAL issues.

And I do hope no-one's going to get politically correct on me by saying "oh, how condescending to talk about another human being as though they're an animal". This is the truth, this is how we are. :(

So true unfortunately:(

[wakeupworld]

That`s very interesting although there has been some debate on this on the Freeman section. Poster Number 6 I don`t believe agrees with what you say however.
My view is if you get the DVLA to sign somthing that you send them comfirming you are the owner then the problem is solved and no tax payable.