real vampires?

[snakesnladders]

how about real vampires? i mean, there are so many depictions of fanged humanoids arent there. if you look. stands to reason they could be an alien creature?

they wud be a perfect candidate for an alien. superhuman strength speed, like superman (an alien), and so on.

other candidates.

dwarves

giants


fairies/elves

longheads (coneheads).. see akhenaton and nefertiti and their kids in egypt.
also elsewhere...

dropa of china ... little yellow coloured aliens

the dogon aliens from sirius b

the 'little people' of south america and elsewhere

trolls

werewolves, witches and wizards (Shapeshifters and skinwalkers. perhaps u cud put vampirse in here?)

grey aliens

caucasian looking aliens?

blue/green skinned aliens (gods)

you know them all.

guess what? they're all aliens. or creatures that have been on this planet for a while now probly; maybe originally from other worlds. and they're ALL REAL. i bet you. maybe even the giants who were big enough to step across rivers and seas with one step.. hows that?

google youtube giants for some cool photos..

so are all the mythological animals real: medusa, the triple headed dog and dragons, sphinxes, satyrs, centaurs, pegausus, mermaids, unicorns, etc.. all real. probly all alien genetic engineering experiments... acc to evd, who i agree with...

[rydeon]

I think the most interesting theories are the ones about the so-called 'energy vampires' who can use intimidation, and fear to leach of a persons positive energy to give themselves a 'top-up' whenever they choose.
Apparently this is where 'being neutral' and guarded comes in, as they 'home' in on the positive more than the negative...
They don't have to be alien, they can be human too.
Some woman claimed to be one and the test they ran were inconclusive. It was on a thread here at DI forums a while back.

[kblood]

I agree, there are a lot more species and types of people than we are told. I wonder a bit how it has been kept secret for so long? But then its not that hard. Make people believe all such things are supernatural and impossible, and it will all die out as rumors, and should anything get more than that they got cover up stories ready for just about anything. Like Roswell, how long did it take to make people not notice the first article that was posted in the news about aliens crashing? Of course its not forgotten today, but only because people who were in on it, told others even though they had signed papers that they would not.

I have experienced ghosts. I didnt believe in them, or care if they existed before meeting some, but the experience made me realize the certainty of us being more than our physical body. I saw one smash a lamp, and if a ghost could move something it could not physically touch, then it must be possible for me as well. Also the ghosts could communicate with me, and so telepathy must be possible. Both telepathy and telekinesis I have tried myself. Not something I can control at will, and I havent tried to in a long time.

As for real vampires, they are probably doing something natural, but some doing it consciously and taking it to extremes. By natural I mean like if a baby cries its mother nurtures it or feeds it. If a child hurts its knee it will go to a parent for comforting. For me to classify something as a vampire it would have to be someone aware of the energy exchange that happens in these case and abuse it. Targets would probably be loving people or insecure people, feeding of fear or, dont remember the word, when someone comforts another person. Worrying attention, trying to help.

I also saw something about ancient Egypt, where they found big sarcophagus with burned remains. The theory by the man who was talking about it was that it was genetic experiments gone bad. Mixing human and animal DNA. There are lots of stores about strange creatures in ancient times, that is commonly thought of as feary tale creatures and legends, but what if there was half horse / half human creatures? Or half bull, half wolf or something else? All I know is that today there are also people around being more than they seem, but the ones we might meet looks just like us so we dont notice it.

[snakesnladders]

yeah, thats in EVDs book 'eyse of the sphinx' about the human animal hybrids in sarcophagi. no doubt true and explains medusa, minotaur, centaurs, satyrs, mermaids, pegasus, possibly unicorns, many headed dragons, sphinxes, many headed dogs, and so on. may even explain really massive giants?

re: vampires, i dont really buy the energy vampire stuff. i think they're an alien creature that survives like a bat or mosquitoes by sucking human blood. also i think they've been around for a while on earth.

i think some of the ancient 'gods' (aliens) maybe were this type of vampire alien. check out the statues at st augustin columbia if you dont believe me. also check out demon legends from india, bali, etc. many places. as well as all the carvings of fanged humans in this and many other areas..

other species appear to be reptile/crocodile or bird like.

as well as the other above named species...

[herushura]

Count Dracula is the Historic Vlad III the Impaler
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlad_III_the_Impaler
Vlad III was a Satanist, who murdered, tortured and Ate 10000 of victims, he even forced his victims to eat each other.

Count Dracula is also a Genuine Ancestor of Queen Elizabeth II

* Elizabeth II
* George VI
* Mary of Teck
* Francis, Duke of Teck
* Klaudia Rhédey de Kis-Rhéde
* Countess Ágnes Inczédy de Nagy-Várad
* Baron Gergely Inczédy de Nagy-Várad
* Baroness Ágnes Kendeffy de Malmoviz
* Katalin KUN de OSDOLA
* Kristina (Christiana) RACZ de GALGO
* Peter (Petru) RACZ de GALGO
* Adam RACZ de GALGO
* Zamphira Logofat de SZAZSEBES (Female) (Zamphira=Vampire)
* Stanka (Stanca) BASARAB of WALLACHIA (Female)
* Mircea The Shepherd (Voivode) of VALACHIA (Male)
* Radu cel Mare Radu IV `the Great' (Voivode) of VALACHIA
* Vlad Călugărul - brother of Vlad the Impaler
* Vlad II Dracul

Vlad II received the surname Dracul in 1431, after being inducted into the Order of the Dragon, founded by Serbian nobles at some time prior to the Battle of Kosovo (1389) and re-instituted in 1408 by Sigismund, the Holy Roman Emperor, as part of a design to gain political favor for the Catholic Church and to aid in protecting Wallachia against the Ottoman Empire.

Dracula or Drac-Ulea means Son of the Dragon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Dragon

Bram Stoker who wrote Dracula, changed the Dragon into a Bat.

[snakesnladders]

yeah but vampire legends dont originate with dracula.

there are depictions of humanoids with fangs that drank blood and ate flesh in the art and religions of most countries on earth. and also depictions of dragons too, btw..
e.g. st augustin archaeological park in columbia. check it out. statues of fanged humans.
india - demons were depicted as such; indonesia, thailand - fanged humanoid demons guard the temples, same in bhutan depictions, japan - oni festival to drive out fanged demons (these had horns), in sth america masks with fangs can be found among archaeological artifacts, also fake fangs were used with teeth and teeth were sharpened to points...etc.

then you had the vampire hysteria that crossed europe and the mediterranean at one time...

its not a new phenomenon. most of our horror films are still about vampires, pretty much.

oh, drak yul - land of the dragon - isnt that what bhutan is known as?

[timelord]

The Highgate Vampire story is interesting and both compelling and stupid in parts. The Bishop Sean Manchester who was at the centre of it is also a big fan of David Icke.

[sophieann]

Greetings. I'm Sophie and new here. I was shown this thread by a friend of mine who invited me to comment and share my experiences.

Firstly, I am a vampyre. I spell it that way because it separates us from the mythical legends, although there are many others who see this as pure semantics and do not bother. I do not have a pair of fangs (except for a very cheap pair I save for halloween, and I always end up not wearing them because they never seem to fit, lol), and obviously go out during daytime. I am sensitive to flurescent lighting, but this is down to a diagnosed perceptual disorder I have and I do not associate this with my spiritual nature at all. I am not undead, I get ill, and I suffer pain just like everyone else. I don't sleep in a coffin, though the mess my room keeps getting in it sometimes feels about as cramped, lol.

Now that I have shared what I am not, I would like to share a bit about what I am. Although I don't drink blood (although know others who do), I consume energy. I remember a talk I gave at my local Pagan group on this subject, and someone pointed out to me that everyone consumes energy to survive. Whilst this is true, vampyres need living energy (sometimes called pranic or psi energy) in order to survive. The awakened vampyre (someone who is aware of their state) is able to chose how to do this, many such as myself have a donor - usually someone who has a plentiful amount of energy and can easily replenish. For such a person an energy drain acts as a way of managing and balancing their own energy. In nature, everything has a natural balance. Vampyres do not kill except in movies; if we did you would have heard about it by now! Vlad was evil; however to make a movie of Dracula they had to borrow aspects from other legends such as Lady Bathory who bathed in blood. Real sangurain (blood feeders) vampyres whilst feeding from blood will know thier donor well, and insist on propper sterialisation taking place. There is also a large emphasis within the vampyre community for them also to be first aiders should anything go wrong. Their donor's sexual history will be known to them to ensure that there are no sexual transmitted infections, another aspect which is always missed out from the films and popular literature.

Vampyres are not evil, but have a tendency to lean towards darkness. In a world blinded by light (also see works by Jung), the darkened spirit explores our dreams and fears, teaching us to accept ourselves as the greater whole. I myself am training to become a counsellor believing my insight, imagination and exploration of a person's own unexplored areas can be of benefit to the wider community.

I would also like to pose a thought to those who are interested: that a vampyre can actually energise a person rather than merely consume and take energy, and I live with a vampyre spirit who is an expert at doing this. Natural reactions such as shock or fear can create a natural surplus energy which vampyres can feed without their target feeling any drain whatsoever, perhaps one good reason why vampyres lean towards the (spiritual) darkness. Sexual conduct is another since during sexual stimulus more energy is naturally given off and then released in a way that is natural to a person's state of wellbeing.

I would also like to add to this that not all energy (psi) vampyres will use another's energy. Many feed from other sources: I can feel very energised from taking a fast electric train for an hour, or sitting at the computer for lengthy amounts of time. A thunderstorm energies many vampyres. I have even read that contrary to the myths, many vampyres even feed from sunlight!

I do not believe vampyres die from lack of energy, although there is also much debate within the community from both sides. However, there is evidence enough that vampyres become lethalgic without this and find it very difficult to engage within the world with the extra energy provided. Eventually, I believe this will happen naturally and psi energy will always come to the vampyre who needs; just as a person holding their breath will eventually faint and then breathe naturally.

There is much argument about 'tunring' someone to be a vampyre. Personally, I believe it can be done, but is through ritual and energy manipulation, not by having been 'bitten'. (Please don't believe the myths about biting from the neck: such acts can cause extreme pain and paralysis, and more blood can be sought from other areas such as the wrist, though being very careful not to burst any veins. Some vampyres can consume the energy of blood just from raising it to the surface by sucking and actually not consuming any at all!)

I would like to finish by sharing a little more about my journey. I was drawn to a vampyric House (group) through the book Vampires: in their own words. From there I read an extract from a lady who seemed to have the same ideas as myself about the unconscious and images that can be grouped together. I emailed her from the address in the book, and we began talking online. I was invited to her House, and now help in a larger project called The Dark Nations for other (closed) Houses of kin / vampyres / therians (those beliving themselves to be animal spirits) to join together and share different projects of each House. I neither represent them nor speak for them since each group has its own slant, but I am aware of common threads and traits, and like to bring such examples to non vampyric places such as here to increase understanding, knowledge and tollerance.

My deepest respect and blessings to you all
Looking forward to any thoughts, questions or comments and will help where I can
Blessings
Sophie
xxx

[octopusrex]

Common in L.A.

Vampire = Wendigo...

How many names can we use for the same 'creature'?

[octopusrex]

Common in L.A.

Humans eating humans. Ptha.
By aliens you mean illegal aliens?:D

[snakesnladders]

http://http://www.sacredsites.com/americas/colombia/san_augustin.html

http://http://www.sacredsites.com/americas/colombia/san_augustin.html

[snakesnladders]

Count Dracula is the Historic Vlad III the Impaler
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlad_III_the_Impaler
Vlad III was a Satanist, who murdered, tortured and Ate 10000 of victims, he even forced his victims to eat each other.

Count Dracula is also a Genuine Ancestor of Queen Elizabeth II

* Elizabeth II
* George VI
* Mary of Teck
* Francis, Duke of Teck
* Klaudia Rhédey de Kis-Rhéde
* Countess Ágnes Inczédy de Nagy-Várad
* Baron Gergely Inczédy de Nagy-Várad
* Baroness Ágnes Kendeffy de Malmoviz
* Katalin KUN de OSDOLA
* Kristina (Christiana) RACZ de GALGO
* Peter (Petru) RACZ de GALGO
* Adam RACZ de GALGO
* Zamphira Logofat de SZAZSEBES (Female) (Zamphira=Vampire)
* Stanka (Stanca) BASARAB of WALLACHIA (Female)
* Mircea The Shepherd (Voivode) of VALACHIA (Male)
* Radu cel Mare Radu IV `the Great' (Voivode) of VALACHIA
* Vlad Călugărul - brother of Vlad the Impaler
* Vlad II Dracul

Vlad II received the surname Dracul in 1431, after being inducted into the Order of the Dragon, founded by Serbian nobles at some time prior to the Battle of Kosovo (1389) and re-instituted in 1408 by Sigismund, the Holy Roman Emperor, as part of a design to gain political favor for the Catholic Church and to aid in protecting Wallachia against the Ottoman Empire.

Dracula or Drac-Ulea means Son of the Dragon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Dragon

Bram Stoker who wrote Dracula, changed the Dragon into a Bat.

Huh, well maybe shes part vampire. Actually, she looks a bit vampire-ish in some photos ive seen... toothy grin?? :P

[forestgrump]

The Highgate Vampire story is interesting and both compelling and stupid in parts. The Bishop Sean Manchester who was at the centre of it is also a big fan of David Icke.

It is indeed and it deals more with what I would classify as a 'real' vampire. The fact that Manchester refers to himself as a Catholic Bishop when he is clearly not (at least not in the generally accepted sense of Catholicism) does put me off him a bit.

I was quite interested to see that he performed an exorcism at a grave believed to be that of Robin Hood located within the grounds of Kirklees Priory (now private property). According to the legend, Robin Hood was bled to death by the Prioress at Kirklees so you can see where the vampire angle comes in. There have supposedly been some sightings in more recent times.

[thewatcher]

I think the most interesting theories are the ones about the so-called 'energy vampires' who can use intimidation, and fear to leach of a persons positive energy to give themselves a 'top-up' whenever they choose.
Apparently this is where 'being neutral' and guarded comes in, as they 'home' in on the positive more than the negative...
They don't have to be alien, they can be human too.
Some woman claimed to be one and the test they ran were inconclusive. It was on a thread here at DI forums a while back.

Hi - um - I am a respectful skeptic, hi everyone and thanks for letting me put my input on this.

Ok - now - your talking about "energy vampires"? First as a respectful skeptic - I publicly acknowledge the possibility that you may be correct, and that I may be wrong. Here's my position: I think that insofar as "energy vampires" are concerned - I think that your taking elements of what's a natural phenomenon to all human beings - and your misinterpreting it.

Negativity and stress caused by intimidation and fear can make someone DEFINITELY become drained.
This is because adrenaline peaks during periods of fear, anger, or annoyance,
and then once the stress causing event ceases or declines - the person experiences an "adrenaline crash" when those adrenaline levels drop.

Also - the person's immune system becomes less functional, heart rate increases, respiration increases, and the body experiences more internal action, but does not use the calories necessary to fuel those activities properly to maintain metabolic balance (that's one of the reasons why stress promotes arterial plaque). These things also produce a weakened, or "drained" state.

Likewise - the person on the vampire side of the eqaution may feel "energized" or "Hyped up" while intimidating or causing fear in someone else - simply because they are "getting off" on fighting - or causing someone else stress, and the natural endorphine levels in their brain is getting jacked up, not because they are "vampires" - but because they're just getting a sadistic thrill.

Now it IS proven - in so much as POSITIVE emotions and POSITIVE results, that we in fact DO gain psychobiological / emotionally nutrition and health benefits from loving activities with people.

Babies DEPEND upon the loving emotional bond and physical affection from their mothers for a healthy immune system, good cellular growth, good psychological healthy, and good mental developement.

People who have close nit families are typically healthier than people who do not, and also tend to live longer.

People who are married live longer than people who stay single. Here's a really weird thing to ponder to, and that is that people who just "shack up" with someone, even on a long term or permanent basis, but do not marry them, are roughly the same as people who stay single in those longevity rates. Why - nobody knows.

Every time you make love to somebody you gain two calories. Nobody knows WHERE they come from.

People who make love more frequently than typical with a long term monogamous partner - are generally healthier than people who make love frequently with different short term partners, or people who make love at "normal" or slightly less than normal rates with a long term monogamous partner.

It's not just "SEX" either insomuch as pair bonding is concerned - because even couples who have very close intimate, yet plutonic "non sexual" marriages where they basically only hug, cuddle, caress, but do not actually engage in sexual activity - enjoy substantial health benefits.

There DOES seem to be some type of "empathic" nutritional exchange between human beings, it is proven and has been a documented fact for a very long time.

[drakul]

The only `real' blood-drinking vampires out there have been created by the mainstream media.

[forestgrump]

The only `real' blood-drinking vampires out there have been created by the mainstream media.

The concept of 'real' blood drinking vampires existed long before the modern main stream media. In fact the word vampire originally only referred to the re-animated, blood drinking dead.

[drakul]

The concept of 'real' blood drinking vampires existed long before the modern main stream media. In fact the word vampire originally only referred to the re-animated, blood drinking dead.

Yes the concept of vampires existed, like alot of other superstitions. It wasn't that long ago that many societies practiced blood-drinking as a religious rite and condoned the sacrifice of babies to pacify the `gods'.

[agrael]

i belive the moon affects the way we decode reality, thats why u meed an alien and u perceve him as human. i have meet a reptilian a few years ago it was an old woman in the same store with me. did not seem frightening except the excess of the tongue and the approch on me lol . i was not aware at the time.
Men in Black movie says clearly how they are among us hiding. And i think its ok. Acutally , im sad we cant learn from them stuff. I care less about manipulation atm. I belive evrething is fo a reason. I myself im from romania and i belive myself to be a sort of vampire just because i have a tooth that bleeds ocasinally from time to time for about 7-8 years now i tihnk. Basically once every 2-3 days i get to drink my own blood. Reptilians are vampires aswell since they tend to feed on humans from time to time. Then Again The BLOOD of humans represents energy in ocult societieties and more than that.

The bible states clrearly that there were giant humanoids roaming earth - even evidece of uncovered graves is present.
Vlad the impaler had a way with enemies, and because of his harsh actions he is consideered evil ( my ancestor hihi) , but then again it may just be that he was into the occult or even more an alien beeing having fun. Im sorry atm i just woke up and i think i wrote a bit too much . Still if some1 has an codex or anything to help decode ALIEN BEHAVIOR in society that would be nice. at least i can say HI with dignity next time i meet some1 out of this planet. Even afford to slap him over the head for beeing so ignorant about humans here. Its still our job to figure things out but as the manipulation was allowd then i think some help should come aswell. Fairplay mr Alien . .. pls.