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Anders Lindman
04-09-2007, 09:57 AM
There could be tons of conspiracy disinfo on the web. No problem. Here and there are some true pieces of information. Those cannot be budged, only covered up or ridiculed. The other thing is that people are doing more and more dot-connecting. Like a jigsaw puzzle, true pieces of information are connected to other true pieces. Conspiracy disinfo agents and organizations will have more and more problem trying to uphold false information. Even with loads and loads of smokescreens of disinfo, the true information will remain unshakeable. Add to that a lot of debunking attempts. All such attempts will only make the true information more clear to see. Sure, it's a total jungle of information, but the more disinfo they pump out, the more it will be recognized as 'noise', and consequently people will turn the dial away from the noisy signal to get a more clear reception.
father ted
04-09-2007, 10:15 AM
Good post, I was gonna write something like that, and to add to that, the more disinfo, the better people will get at disiphering the truth from the lies- within the same body of work. They are giving us a lot of practice to do that.
Anders Lindman
04-09-2007, 10:27 AM
Yes, for example, it will be more difficult to connect disinfo to a clear picture than connecting the real info. One problem is that there can be layers of half-truths hiding deeper truths. But even that will sooner or later be penetrated I think. There is a kind of momentum building up. More and more people, and more and more findings.
gordonfreeman
04-09-2007, 10:33 AM
Like what James777 is trying to fool or giving us disinformation.
Anders Lindman
04-09-2007, 10:47 AM
Like what James777 is trying to fool or giving us disinformation.
lol. I don't know about certain people, but all information is good. The false information can be compared with the true. And who knows, what at first looked like false info could turn out to be true info!
space lizard
04-09-2007, 10:56 AM
I've said it here before.
The most important question to ask is : MOTIVE?
What is the motive for this information being put out?
What is the motive for this person telling me this?
What is my motive for looking into this?
Ask youself how you feel like reacting to certain information, and pause to think about it before, accusing someone or picking up arms or charging off in a huff.
Personally I agree with David when he said, this is not a war to be won by going on protest marches and picking up guns because if you fight the system you become part of the system. This is being drilled home to me this week because I live in Sydney and the news media and the cops seem to be doing all they can to generate a state of hate and cause as many people to riot against apec as possible.
I look at the media giving all this info about how the police are going to kick heads in and how the protesters are going to kick heads in and I just think, Fools vs Fools.
The nesw papers just want blood for the front page.
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Anders Lindman
04-09-2007, 11:24 AM
Motive is key I think. It's difficult sometimes to find out what was the real motive, and there can be many motives going on simultaneously.
Take the JFK assassination for example. My theory at the moment is the the JFK assassination was the military industrial complex saying to all American politicians: "See what happens when you don't obey us. We can even blow the brains out of the president. How much more could we then do to you smaller politicians." And thereby the military industrial complex have been able to hold all American politicians in a state of fear up to this day.
Anders Lindman
04-09-2007, 11:46 AM
the military industrial complex have been able to hold all American politicians in a state of fear up to this day.
JFK's speech to the media was like: "Hilfe! Help! I've got a mega-bully (the military industrial complex which also another American president warned about) on my back. Please listen!"
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seanx
04-09-2007, 12:05 PM
Anders Lindman wrote:
Motive is key I think. It's difficult sometimes to find out what was the real motive, and there can be many motives going on simultaneously.
Take the JFK assassination for example. My theory at the moment is the the JFK assassination was the military industrial complex saying to all American politicians: "See what happens when you don't obey us. We can even blow the brains out of the president. How much more could we then do to you smaller politicians." And thereby the military industrial complex have been able to hold all American politicians in a state of fear up to this day
Great point.
it's even the Mafia's favourite modus operandi: Get one guy - make a real show of him- Bang!- everybody, scared shitless, falls into line.
Anders Lindman
04-09-2007, 05:12 PM
Great point.
it's even the Mafia's favourite modus operandi: Get one guy - make a real show of him- Bang!- everybody, scared shitless, falls into line.
And the Mafia is part of the military industrial complex. And so is the CIA including all the private companies hired as contractors. Someone said that 50% of the entire U.S. economy is related to military defense. How's that for a mega-bully?
Does anyone really believe that Muslims want to blow up themselves in suicide attacks? Is it the Muslims or the U.S. military industrial complex who benefit by having CNN reporting Muslim terrorist attacks? C'mon, let's get real here and admit that we have been totally buying a monstrous lie and have been swallowing that propaganda hook, line and sinker. Like the stupid little pawns and sheeple we are.
There could be tons of conspiracy disinfo on the web. No problem. Here and there are some true pieces of information. Those cannot be budged, only covered up or ridiculed. The other thing is that people are doing more and more dot-connecting. Like a jigsaw puzzle, true pieces of information are connected to other true pieces. Conspiracy disinfo agents and organizations will have more and more problem trying to uphold false information. Even with loads and loads of smokescreens of disinfo, the true information will remain unshakeable. Add to that a lot of debunking attempts. All such attempts will only make the true information more clear to see. Sure, it's a total jungle of information, but the more disinfo they pump out, the more it will be recognized as 'noise', and consequently people will turn the dial away from the noisy signal to get a more clear reception.
i think that there are basically two kinds of people -- those who think for themselves and those who do not.
disinfo will only work with those who do not want to use their own brains and their own intuitions, but those who think for themselves already know on subconscious level what is good information and what is purposely fed garbage.
not only that they know what is correct what not, but they have developed (or are in process of developing ) good detective skills
with that, they do not need anyone to tell them or translate for them what is going on
pumma
04-09-2007, 07:04 PM
Also most of so called "truth speakers" have their own belief system (to defend)... ;)
mada88
04-09-2007, 07:08 PM
lol. I don't know about certain people, but all information is good. The false information can be compared with the true. And who knows, what at first looked like false info could turn out to be true info!
in formation its not data its an order.
Anders Lindman
04-09-2007, 07:39 PM
in formation its not data its an order.
Sure, but dis-info is dis-order. True info brings ease to mind whereas disinfo brings dis-ease to the mind. ;)
Anders Lindman
04-09-2007, 07:45 PM
Also most of so called "truth speakers" have their own belief system (to defend)... ;)
We all to lesser or greater extent have belief systems to defend. My new approach is to still have belief systems to defend and at the same time be willing to change them instantly. I can always switch back to an old belief system if the new turned out to be false.
matrixcutter
04-09-2007, 08:39 PM
And the Mafia is part of the military industrial complex. And so is the CIA including all the private companies hired as contractors. Someone said that 50% of the entire U.S. economy is related to military defense. How's that for a mega-bully?
Does anyone really believe that Muslims want to blow up themselves in suicide attacks? Is it the Muslims or the U.S. military industrial complex who benefit by having CNN reporting Muslim terrorist attacks? C'mon, let's get real here and admit that we have been totally buying a monstrous lie and have been swallowing that propaganda hook, line and sinker. Like the stupid little pawns and sheeple we are.
Except for the stuff about Peak Oil. That's all legit, apparently.
Anders Lindman
04-09-2007, 10:59 PM
disinfo will only work with those who do not want to use their own brains and their own intuitions
But the tricky thing is that there can be compartmentalization of disinfo. That's very difficult to see through.
Anders Lindman
04-09-2007, 11:02 PM
Except for the stuff about Peak Oil. That's all legit, apparently.
He he, Of course peak oil is real! I saw that on Google video. :)
Anders Lindman
04-09-2007, 11:35 PM
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father ted
05-09-2007, 01:01 AM
Is anyone noticing the same formula/type of formula regarding disinfo? In other words, the places where the lies are, are approximately in the same places as another works of disinfo.
But the tricky thing is that there can be compartmentalization of disinfo. That's very difficult to see through.
yes, that is why you need to step back and look from outside and use your intuition
cruise4
06-09-2007, 07:44 AM
Is all this a set up game that is causing us to raise our conciousness level via working our 'perceptions'. If so, who and why are 'for this' and who or why is 'against this'. There could well be both a 'good' and 'bad' side playing in the field at this moment. Who is who is the interesting question.
Anders Lindman
06-09-2007, 11:26 AM
There could well be both a 'good' and 'bad' side playing in the field at this moment. Who is who is the interesting question.
I have been speculating about the possibility that Ron Paul is supported by the good guys. Only bad guys are benefiting from the current pyramid system.
mr_moon
06-09-2007, 11:39 AM
Interesting... if we have I:nner conflict within ourselves then there is Duality. If we have that, we experience it Externally. Duality or opposing forces. Therefore, does it not make sense, to think there are 2 Illuminati groups fighting for Good and Evil?
Hehe- what an Awakening THAT would be!!
Anders Lindman
06-09-2007, 01:13 PM
Interesting... if we have I:nner conflict within ourselves then there is Duality. If we have that, we experience it Externally. Duality or opposing forces. Therefore, does it not make sense, to think there are 2 Illuminati groups fighting for Good and Evil?
Hehe- what an Awakening THAT would be!!
Hmm... There could be many Illuminati groups. But I don't think Ron Paul is supported by one the bad guy groups. I hope. :eek: