Israel was out to drop Nuclear bomb on Gaza

[jesuitsdidit]

Turkey’s Prime Minister revealed that Israel had threatened to use nuclear weapons against Gaza Palestinians during its last onslaught against the Palestinian population.

http://www.daily.pk/israel-was-out-to-drop-nuclear-bomb-on-gaza-12571/
http://www.daily.pk/category/world/


Israel was out to drop Nuclear bomb on Gaza
Written by Abhijay Patel World Oct 27, 2009

Turkey’s Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has revealed that Israel had threatened to use nuclear weapons against Gaza Palestinians during its last onslaught against the Palestinian population.

According to an interview published on Monday by British daily, Turkish PM said that Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman had warned to use nuclear weapons against the Palestinians.

Recep Tayyip Erdogan rebuked Lieberman over the nuclear threat regarding the Gaza Strip but downplayed the tension between Turkey and Israel.

The comments by Turkish PM Recep Tayyip Erdogan was reported at a time when tension between Ankara and Jewish state was increasing following Ankara’s decision to cancel a multi-national air exercise in which Israeli air forces was also invited.

The tension between Turkey and Israel worsen when Ankara refused to take off a television drama that depicts Israeli soldiers killing Palestinian children.

[truth finder]

well if they said it, it must be true...:rolleyes:

[jiffy]

well if they said it, it must be true...:rolleyes:


+1;)

[truth finder]

like the russians made out they di9dn't have hitlers body.....:confused:

[zarah]

Why wouldn't it be true? The Israeli government, and Israelis in the wider perspective have been to shown to view Palestinians and Arabs in general as sub-human and not worthy of the same treatment they expect themselves. I wouldn't put it past the disgusting war criminals to commit further genocide on anyone.

[jiffy]

Why wouldn't it be true? The Israeli government, and Israelis in the wider perspective have been to shown to view Palestinians and Arabs in general as sub-human and not worthy of the same treatment they expect themselves. I wouldn't put it past the disgusting war criminals to commit further genocide on anyone.

Erm because there would be International condemnation.

Military why do they need to? Palestine offers no viable threat to Israel.

[icarus]

Israel would use nukes tomorrow if they thought they could get away with it, and the wind was blowing in the right direction.

They can't quite get away with it at the moment, but give them time, they're getting stronger by the minute.

The single most dangerous country on the planet bar none.

[jiffy]

Israel would use nukes tomorrow if they thought they could get away with it, and the wind was blowing in the right direction.

They can't quite get away with it at the moment, but give them time, they're getting stronger by the minute.

The single most dangerous country on the planet bar none.

Really? It is like cognitive wonderland on here;)

So the 40 odd Governments that have been over thrown since WW2. The bombing of 30 odd countries since WW2. The killing of more people than were killed in Nazis concentration camps. Were all perpetrated by Israel!!!

I bet I could ask the families of 2 million Iraq's that would have a bone to pick with the rubbish you just typed!!!

[edelweiss pirate]

Really? It is like cognitive wonderland on here;)

So the 40 odd Governments that have been over thrown since WW2. The bombing of 30 odd countries since WW2. The killing of more people than were killed in Nazis concentration camps. Were all perpetrated by Israel!!!

I bet I could ask the families of 2 million Iraq's that would have a bone to pick with the rubbish you just typed!!!

World war one was designed to make the land ready for the people.
Word war two was designed to make the people ready for the land.

[truth finder]

Why wouldn't it be true? The Israeli government, and Israelis in the wider perspective have been to shown to view Palestinians and Arabs in general as sub-human and not worthy of the same treatment they expect themselves. I wouldn't put it past the disgusting war criminals to commit further genocide on anyone.

dude ur a rascist and don't deserve a relastic coment...

[zarah]

Erm because there would be International condemnation.

Military why do they need to? Palestine offers no viable threat to Israel.


And when was the last time Israel concerned itself with international condemnation? War crimes were committed when Gaza was attacked at the beginning of the year and Goldstone's report indicates that members of the Israeli government could find themselves charged with not only war crimes, but crimes against humanity. Does Israel pay attention? Of course not. Does it review its policies? Nope.

Of course Palestine isn't a threat. It isn't permitted a military or its own police and isn't the receiver of billions in US aid which it can use to build either. That isn't the point....Palestine, so arrogant war criminal Israel believes, doesn't exist, and the Palestinians have no right to be in the land which Israel's holy book states is theirs...makes sense, right? :rolleyes:

[zarah]

Really? It is like cognitive wonderland on here;)

So the 40 odd Governments that have been over thrown since WW2. The bombing of 30 odd countries since WW2. The killing of more people than were killed in Nazis concentration camps. Were all perpetrated by Israel!!!

I bet I could ask the families of 2 million Iraq's that would have a bone to pick with the rubbish you just typed!!!


1. Governments are overthrown by the west when it suits the west.

2. Countries are bombed by the west for the west.

And neither of those statements have anything to do with Israel and its ongoing war crimes for the last 60 years.

[jiffy]

And neither of those statements have anything to do with Israel


Not when taken out of context.....please refrain from doing it:mad:

[zarah]

Not when taken out of context.....please refrain from doing it:mad:

Show me how you think they were taken out of context....

[jesuitsdidit]

well if they said it, it must be true...:rolleyes:

who's they?

[truth finder]

who's they?



turkish prime minister.....

[jesuitsdidit]

like the russians made out they di9dn't have hitlers body.....:confused:

they didnt
he lived to 106 in n and s america..

all govts hav been controlled by the same ppl 4 quite a long time
and certainly pre ww2
ergo russia was following 'orders' as were all other participants in ww2..

[drhemp]

Palestinian Holocaust?

David Halpin FRCS A talk given to an audience in Totnes town hall at the Alternative View meeting 27 April 2008. Palestine is at the 'hinge of humanity'. Any discussion must start with Judaeo-Christian imperialism. The meaning of the word 'holocaust' was defined – industrial killing by the Nazis of Jews and others. Other examples were given – the genocide of the north America Indian c. 20million. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were holocausts in every detail. The sad history of Palestine was told and its torment stretching from the British mandate up to the present day. Slides were shown of refugees fleeing from terror and force of arms from their homes, land and living in '48.

The complicity of the western nations in the torment of the Palestinian people was recognised, and their lawlessness in the assaults on Afghanistan and Iraq. Images of Ali Abbas showed the depth of evil.

Finally, David laid out carefully what each person should do to kerb state lawlessness and the terrible suffering arising out of it.

Length 53 minutes.

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-3116382044025333543&ei=KyjsSpqRN8mb-Ab7wdz_Dg&q=Palestinian+Holocaust%3F&hl=en&client=firefox-a

[jiffy]

And when was the last time Israel concerned itself with international condemnation? War crimes were committed when Gaza was attacked at the beginning of the year and Goldstone's report indicates that members of the Israeli government could find themselves charged with not only war crimes, but crimes against humanity. Does Israel pay attention? Of course not. Does it review its policies? Nope.

Of course Palestine isn't a threat. It isn't permitted a military or its own police and isn't the receiver of billions in US aid which it can use to build either. That isn't the point....Palestine, so arrogant war criminal Israel believes, doesn't exist, and the Palestinians have no right to be in the land which Israel's holy book states is theirs...makes sense, right? :rolleyes:


Whilst I agree Israel shows little regard for international condemnation, it has to be said using a small amount of Illegal weaponry is a world away from using Nuclear weapons.

Of course no one seems to want address the practicality of using a nuclear weapon what would be next door:confused:

It is just a laughable allegation!!

It doesn't say in the Tora the land belongs to them, it says their promised land is in the mind until their disciple comes down to earth and is shown by God where it is.;)

[jesuitsdidit]

Erm because there would be International condemnation.

Military why do they need to? Palestine offers no viable threat to Israel.

Israel does not want a peace settlement bcoz then their borders will be finally decided which will then make it harder 4 them 2 keep expanding
all terrorism is controlled
get it?

[jiffy]

Show me how you think they were taken out of context....

My reply was in the context of this comment


The single most dangerous country on the planet bar none.

[jiffy]

Israel does not want a peace settlement bcoz then their borders will be finally decided which will then make it harder 4 them 2 keep expanding
all terrorism is controlled
get it?

I never mentioned peace. I'm fully aware of what Israel wishes for Palestine

[jesuitsdidit]

dude ur a rascist and don't deserve a relastic coment...

it is certainly very much a part of the ptb plan that Jews should be hated, blamed and finally removed from the face of the earth
Rothschild and co have sold out on their people for money and power..

[drhemp]

Israel would use nukes tomorrow if they thought they could get away with it, and the wind was blowing in the right direction.

They can't quite get away with it at the moment, but give them time, they're getting stronger by the minute.

The single most dangerous country on the planet bar none.

This is the truth.

[truth finder]

This is the truth.


sorry i just don't agree....

[jesuitsdidit]

i dont claim to understand all the ins and outs of the Jewish psyche and the tapestry of their culture coz its not sth i have studied
but eric phelps is very clear that the Jews have been set up by ptb with the aim that they should be hated, blamed and finally removed from the face of the earth
and i agree with virtually everything eric phelps says not bcoz i like the sound of his voice but bcoz wot he says makes sense and accords with my own understanding of who is running 'the monolithic ruthless conspiracy' (JFK).

[jiffy]

sorry i just don't agree....

+1

[truth finder]

it is certainly very much a part of the ptb plan that Jews should be hated, blamed and finally removed from the face of the earth
Rothschild and co have sold out on their people for money and power..

so why do people blame all jews?....

Its like me blamming all americans or british people, just because there leaders are nut jobs, doesn't mean the public are evil....

[jesuitsdidit]

turkish prime minister.....

explain pls..

[truth finder]

explain pls..



explain what?????? just because one person says something don't make it true.

[jesuitsdidit]

I never mentioned peace. I'm fully aware of what Israel wishes for Palestine

sorry
my reply shd ve looked like this

Erm because there would be International condemnation.

Military why do they need to? Palestine offers no viable threat to Israel.


Israel does not want a peace settlement bcoz then their borders will be finally decided which will then make it harder 4 them 2 keep expanding
all terrorism is controlled
get it?

[jesuitsdidit]

sorry i just don't agree....

+1

depends wot u mean
dangerous yes in that they could be one of the 2 sides rubbed together to produce the spark for ww3
but not in terms of their own military ability
just remember israel is entirely controlled by ptb and the arm responds to wot the brain says
israel duz nt hav any ambitions of its own
it duz not control itself..

[jesuitsdidit]

so why do people blame all jews?....

Its like me blamming all americans or british people, just because there leaders are nut jobs, doesn't mean the public are evil....

so why do people blame all jews?....

coz thats wot ptb want

Its like me blamming all americans or british people, just because there leaders are nut jobs, doesn't mean the public are evil....

correct..

[jesuitsdidit]

explain what?????? just because one person says something don't make it true.

agreed..

[jesuitsdidit]

i agree with virtually everything eric phelps says ...and accords with my own understanding of who is running 'the monolithic ruthless conspiracy' (JFK).

on which he is impeccable
the points on which i dont agree with him are minor and do not directly relate to his central thesis
i am taking a risk by admitting to less than 100% agreement with him
as it may dilute his argument
but it is the truth
on his central thesis i agree with him 100%..

[jesuitsdidit]

Israel does not want a peace settlement bcoz then their borders will be finally decided which will then make it harder 4 them 2 keep expanding
all terrorism is controlled
get it?

you arent sure if there's a vast conspiracy?

take it from me - there is.. .. ..

[jesuitsdidit]

+1

depends wot u mean
dangerous yes in that they could be one of the 2 sides rubbed together to produce the spark for ww3
but not in terms of their own military ability
just remember israel is entirely controlled by ptb and the arm responds to wot the brain says
israel duz nt hav any ambitions of its own
it duz not control itself..


just as Turkey will not be allowed to join EU
coz anything that unites Muslims with the West must be rejected
otherwise they wont get their NWO

if you dont hav 2 sides u dont hav a conflict
this above all else is what must be maintained
naturally humans are intelligent enough to realise
a point comes where conflict is no longer viable
i'm not saying it duznt hav its place
and im not saying the Vikings were wrong to invade Britain
but now that the world is essentially one community
one community cannot attack itself
therefore the divisions must be created
otherwise they have no control
at least not enough to bring in their NWO..

[jesuitsdidit]

agreed..

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/oct/26/turkey-iran1


'Iran is our friend,' says Turkish PM Recep Tayyip Erdogan

• We have no difficulty with Ahmadinejad – Erdogan
• Warning to Europe not to ignore Turkey's strengths


Robert Tait in Istanbul
The Guardian, Monday 26 October 2009

With its stunning vistas and former Ottoman palaces, the banks of the Bosphorus – the strategic waterway that cuts Istanbul in half and divides Europe from Asia – may be the perfect place to distinguish friend from foe and establish where your country's interests lie.

And sitting in his grandiose headquarters beside the strait, long the symbol of Turkey's supposed role as bridge between east and west, Recep Tayyip Erdogan had little doubt about who was a friend and who wasn't.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Iran's radical president whose fiery rhetoric has made him a bête noire of the west? "There is no doubt he is our friend," said Erdogan, Turkey's prime minister for the last six years. "As a friend so far we have very good relations and have had no difficulty at all."

...Erdogan's views will interest US foreign policy makers, who have long seen his AKP government as a model of a pro-western "moderate Islam" that could be adopted in other Muslim countries. They will also find an audience with President Barack Obama, who signalled Turkey's strategic importance in a visit last April and has invited the prime minister to visit Washington. They are unlikely to impress Israel, which has warned that Erdogan's criticisms risk harming Turkey's relations with the US.

Erdogan dismissed the notion, saying: "I don't think there is any possibility of that. America's policy in this region is not dictated by Israel."

He insisted that the Turkey-Israel strategic alliance – which some AKP insiders have said privately is over – remains alive but chided the Israeli foreign minister, Avigdor Lieberman, who he said had threatened to use nuclear weapons against Gaza.

[jesuitsdidit]

+1

depends wot u mean
dangerous yes in that they could be one of the 2 sides rubbed together to produce the spark for ww3
but not in terms of their own military ability
just remember israel is entirely controlled by ptb and the arm responds to wot the brain says
israel duz nt hav any ambitions of its own
it duz not control itself..

this is why its so important not
to fall into the trap of blaming/hating Jews..

[e7304]

it is certainly very much a part of the ptb plan that Jews should be hated, blamed and finally removed from the face of the earth
Rothschild and co have sold out on their people for money and power..

Well they are doing a pretty good job of promoting that themselves. I am sick and tired of people who continually make excuses for the most dispicable openly racist regime on the planet. Because THEY OWN Hollywood, does not give any reasonable person an excuse or option that they are acting out of nothing but pure racist hatred and greed. That slut and bitch Golda Meir threatened the whole world , if "Israel" was attacked by anyone. Its "wars" were all orchastrated from Israel....it was never "attacked"...but promoted the myth it was.

Its leaders are liars, murderers, terrorists and above all , decievers. The organised "jewry" that supports this racist, genocidal regime , exists in all of our countries. They are NOT part of our countries and are committed to the "international" ideal, where they WILL AND HAVE sold out the countries they so called belong to. Look no further than Russia. Why is it That the "oligarchs" that Yeltsin GAVE most of the states energy to were jewish?? Easy to look at who the REAL Bolsheviks were.

Just a chance , eh?. So when Putin went after these crooks they went straight to Israel....or London. Israel TV even did a doco on these escaped "oligarchs", where they bragged about the stolen billions they got from the Russian people. HA HA HOW VERY AMUSING. Thats saying something about the crooked world of finance , the city of London and Israel.

They can get fucked, in my humble opinion....and if you support these murderous shits , you can get fucked too!

.....but going back to the original post.....even the stupid fukin Zionists would not destroy the land they intend to, and will, get.:mad:

[jesuitsdidit]

Well they are doing a pretty good job of promoting that themselves. I am sick and tired of people who continually make excuses for the most dispicable openly racist regime on the planet. Because THEY OWN Hollywood, does not give any reasonable person an excuse or option that they are acting out of nothing but pure racist hatred and greed. That slut and bitch Golda Meir threatened the whole world , if "Israel" was attacked by anyone. Its "wars" were all orchastrated from Israel....it was never "attacked"...but promoted the myth it was.

Its leaders are liars, murderers, terrorists and above all , decievers. The organised "jewry" that supports this racist, genocidal regime , exists in all of our countries. They are NOT part of our countries and are committed to the "international" ideal, where they WILL AND HAVE sold out the countries they so called belong to. Look no further than Russia. Why is it That the "oligarchs" that Yeltsin GAVE most of the states energy to were jewish?? Easy to look at who the REAL Bolsheviks were.

Just a chance , eh?. So when Putin went after these crooks they went straight to Israel....or London. Israel TV even did a doco on these escaped "oligarchs", where they bragged about the stolen billions they got from the Russian people. HA HA HOW VERY AMUSING. Thats saying something about the crooked world of finance , the city of London and Israel.

They can get fucked, in my humble opinion....and if you support these murderous shits , you can get fucked too!

.....but going back to the original post.....even the stupid fukin Zionists would not destroy the land they intend to, and will, get.:mad:

look
Q1 is there a vast conspiracy?
no - go and put your feet up and have another doughnut
yes - who is running it?

either its the vatican running the jews
or its the jews running the vatican

i reckon vatican runs the jews

i'm not fully conversant with Jewish culture
there may be some evil gene in the jews that makes them want to kill 95% of humanity and/or have a NWO

but all the evidence and my research of the last 2+ yrs (which have been devoted to this and nothing else) tell me vatican runs the jews.

afaia the vatican grew out of the roman empire and is based on romanism which has its roots in the mystery schools of babylon

the jews have always been hated by romanism
why?
im not sure
my guess wd be
1 bcoz Judaism was 1st relig 2 see God as 1 being, rejected idolatry which romanism is, being pagan
2 i dont know wot other reasons there cd be
but catholic oaths often refer to 'the perfidious jews'

if you want me 2 go into all the reasons why i believe vatican runs jews i will but i'd direct you preferably to vaticanassassins.org and the 28 part youtube video of eric phelps made by matheis part 3 of which is titled 'JEWS DO NOT RUN NWO'.

[e7304]

"if you want me 2 go into all the reasons why i believe vatican runs jews i will but i'd direct you preferably to vaticanassassins.org and the 28 part youtube video of eric phelps made by matheis part 3 of which is titled 'JEWS DO NOT RUN NWO'. "

If you stated anyone, apart from Eric Phephs, I would have said "yes" , let me see what you have.

The fact you even say his name, I cannot believe that you do NOT know who he is and what his agenda is. I believe that the Vatican is behind many evil deeds , but for an Israeli jewel thief and typical Israeli dis-information specialist, trained in this crap, as he is, you have to take the back seat.Mr Phelps was exposed along time ago as a jewel trader , based in Israel.

His info is nothing more than propaganda.....we have to get thru this shit WITHOUT a religious JEW who claims he is a "insider" of Jesuits"

....I mean for hells sake.....this man is nothing more than a liar. DAVINCI CODE and the rest of the crap, Good HOLLYWOOD crap.....to continue the ATTACK on Christiandom....

...and I am not even a Christian.......

[jesuitsdidit]

"if you want me 2 go into all the reasons why i believe vatican runs jews i will but i'd direct you preferably to vaticanassassins.org and the 28 part youtube video of eric phelps made by matheis part 3 of which is titled 'JEWS DO NOT RUN NWO'. "

If you stated anyone, apart from Eric Phephs, I would have said "yes" , let me see what you have.

The fact you even say his name, I cannot believe that you do NOT know who he is and what his agenda is. I believe that the Vatican is behind many evil deeds , but for an Israeli jewel thief and typical Israeli dis-information specialist, trained in this crap, as he is, you have to take the back seat.Mr Phelps was exposed along time ago as a jewel trader , based in Israel.

His info is nothing more than propaganda.....we have to get thru this shit WITHOUT a religious JEW who claims he is a "insider" of Jesuits"

....I mean for hells sake.....this man is nothing more than a liar. DAVINCI CODE and the rest of the crap, Good HOLLYWOOD crap.....to continue the ATTACK on Christiandom....

...and I am not even a Christian.......

to you phelps is crap
to me hes God

unless you r willing to discuss his work
rather than attacking his character
we have nothing more to discuss
i dont expect NWO to go down without a fight..

[andyh]

I find the very suggestion that Israel would nuke Gaza completely hilarious.
It's practically next door for chrissake!
It's like saying manchester would nuke bolton ffs.

As things are the whole situation plays into the israeli govt's hands. They want it to continue, they want things to remain the way they are, they want the US aid to continue pouring in and they want the long suffering on both sides to carry on the way it is.

There's the possibility that Turkey may join the EU soon, with the human rights and govt record they have so far it will only serve to show just what the EU is all about.
It's all about encroaching on Russia and China and forcing the end game plan as per Zbignew Brezhinski's grand chessboard.

[zarah]

Whilst I agree Israel shows little regard for international condemnation, it has to be said using a small amount of Illegal weaponry is a world away from using Nuclear weapons.

Of course no one seems to want address the practicality of using a nuclear weapon what would be next door:confused:

It is just a laughable allegation!!

It doesn't say in the Tora the land belongs to them, it says their promised land is in the mind until their disciple comes down to earth and is shown by God where it is.;)

It also shows and has shown little regard for international law unless it suits them, from the masscares in Sabra and Shatila to Jenin and Lebanon. There seems no end to Israel's vile atrocties and no level it finds difficulty in lowering itself to.

What is a 'small amount of illegal weaponary?' Does the murder of 1500 innocent people, women and children included, by this 'small amount of illegal weaponary' constitute only a teensy crime then?

[truth finder]

they didnt
he lived to 106 in n and s america..

all govts hav been controlled by the same ppl 4 quite a long time
and certainly pre ww2
ergo russia was following 'orders' as were all other participants in ww2..


his skull and dentures are in the museuem in russia...or so they say?

[truth finder]

It also shows and has shown little regard for international law unless it suits them, from the masscares in Sabra and Shatila to Jenin and Lebanon. There seems no end to Israel's vile atrocties and no level it finds difficulty in lowering itself to.

What is a 'small amount of illegal weaponary?' Does the murder of 1500 innocent people, women and children included, by this 'small amount of illegal weaponary' constitute only a teensy crime then?



i think u would find most powerful countries could be blamed for this, i just think its wrong to put israel on the firing squad..

[zarah]

i think u would find most powerful countries could be blamed for this, i just think its wrong to put israel on the firing squad..

Sorry?

[e7304]

to you phelps is crap
to me hes God

unless you r willing to discuss his work
rather than attacking his character
we have nothing more to discuss
i dont expect NWO to go down without a fight..

His WORK???. When confronted in a radio interview about 12 months ago, he went very quiet.He publishes his stuff, but will not meet or even discuss his "ideas" with anyone who wil question him.

You stick with him, fair enough. I see him as a jewish liar, who should be exposing his own church, but that wil never happen.

[jiffy]

="Purple"
What is a 'small amount of illegal weaponary?' Does the murder of 1500 innocent people, women and children included, by this 'small amount of illegal weaponary' constitute only a teensy crime then?

Rather facetious answer I feel, the point being made was you can not compare nuclear weapons with ANY other weapon. Even on a "symbolic" level.

Like I said Israel couldn't drop a Nuclear weapon on any part of Palestine because of its close proximity to its own land.

A "Story" that just hold no weight what so ever, if people bothered to actually think the allegation over:rolleyes:.

Still I'm fully aware of how little people think for themselves:rolleyes: or there so cognitive they might as well not bothered;)

[jesuitsdidit]

His WORK???. When confronted in a radio interview about 12 months ago, he went very quiet.He publishes his stuff, but will not meet or even discuss his "ideas" with anyone who wil question him.

You stick with him, fair enough. I see him as a jewish liar, who should be exposing his own church, but that wil never happen.

When confronted in a radio interview about 12 months ago, he went very quiet.

link?

He publishes his stuff, but will not meet or even discuss his "ideas" with anyone who wil question him.

incorrect

I see him as a jewish liar

hes not jewish and hes not a liar
and anyway wots wrong with being jewish?

[rhydra]

If Israel dropped even a small nuke on Gaza every country around the Mediterranean would be attacking Tel Aviv, I don't think that anyone with control over the military would ever consider doing such a thing as it would be comparable to setting your bed on fire because you don't like the person who is sleeping next to you.

[ingram0009]

Israel had threatened to use nuclear weapons against Gaza Palestinians...

I have no interest what these people get up to.
Let them wipe each other out for all I care.

[zarah]

Rather facetious answer I feel, the point being made was you can not compare nuclear weapons with ANY other weapon. Even on a "symbolic" level.

Like I said Israel couldn't drop a Nuclear weapon on any part of Palestine because of its close proximity to its own land.

A "Story" that just hold no weight what so ever, if people bothered to actually think the allegation over:rolleyes:.

Still I'm fully aware of how little people think for themselves:rolleyes: or there so cognitive they might as well not bothered;)

So you're capable of providing and not just identifying facetiousness then? :rolleyes:

Nuclear weapons can also be in the form of chemical or biological weapons which caise maximise damage to a limited geographical area. The post to which you refer so condescendingly was highlighting the obvious contempt Israel holds for internatoional law and international condemnation both the recent past and in the decades of its illegal occupation.

[branjo]

I don't think they would use a nuke on Gaza, but I bet they dream about it every night.

[zarah]

I have no interest what these people get up to.
Let them wipe each other out for all I care.

Then why are you bothering to post in this topic? Isn't Coronation Street on?

[duckandcover]

[QUOTE=zarah;1058380587]

Nuclear weapons can also be in the form of chemical or biological weapons which caise maximise damage to a limited geographical area. QUOTE]

Nuclear weapons are completely different to chem or bio weapons , but im sure a small airburst nuke would devestate palestine with minimal damage to isreal.

[jiffy]

Nuclear weapons can also be in the form of chemical or biological weapons which caise maximise damage to a limited geographical area.

I'm sorry but what on earth are you talking about???????

A nuclear weapon is NOT chemical or biological and is not capable of limited geographical area damage.

A nuclear weapon is a weapon of mass destruction whose explosive power derives from a nuclear reaction. If you placed biological or chemical materials into a nuke it would be instantaneously vaporized on impact

If you question the ability of limited displacement of damage I would suggest you look at Hiroshima!!!!!

[jiffy]

[QUOTE=zarah;1058380587]

Nuclear weapons can also be in the form of chemical or biological weapons which caise maximise damage to a limited geographical area. QUOTE]

Nuclear weapons are completely different to chem or bio weapons , but im sure a small airburst nuke would devestate palestine with minimal damage to isreal.

What like Hiroshima:confused::confused: 1000 people a year still die of cancer directly attributed to that bomb. So fair an estimated half a million have died.

[jiffy]

Then why are you bothering to post in this topic? Isn't Coronation Street on?

+1;)

[duckandcover]

[QUOTE=duckandcover;1058380609]

What like Hiroshima:confused::confused: 1000 people a year still die of cancer directly attributed to that bomb. So fair an estimated half a million have died.

Not from the airburst weapon they used , when they explode above the ground very little radiation fallout is produced. When they go off at ground level , millions of tons of earth/debris is sucked up and radiated, this then creates the `cloud` which gently falls back to earth over a wide area contaminating everything it settles on.

[andyh]

Not from the airburst weapon they used , when they explode above the ground very little radiation fallout is produced. When they go off at ground level , millions of tons of earth/debris is sucked up and radiated, this then creates the `cloud` which gently falls back to earth over a wide area contaminating everything it settles on.

This is true. If I remember rightly well over a hundred thousand died from immediate blast effects (remember this was a small 18 kilotonne nuke that was exploded a wee bit under 2000 feet from the ground...its sobering to think that todays nukes are many many times more powerful than this), there was never any proof of ongoing cancers/mutations from hiroshima.
http://rerf.or.jp/general/qa_e/qa7.html
Now that "might" not be the case later on but according to the japanese themselves there has been no investigation here into this.

Chernobyl on the other hand is an example of fallout that has recorded ongoing issues.

[jiffy]

This is true. If I remember rightly well over a hundred thousand died from immediate blast effects (remember this was a small 18 kilotonne nuke that was exploded a wee bit under 2000 feet from the ground...its sobering to think that todays nukes are many many times more powerful than this), there was never any proof of ongoing cancers/mutations from hiroshima.
http://rerf.or.jp/general/qa_e/qa7.html
Now that "might" not be the case later on but according to the japanese themselves there has been no investigation here into this.

Chernobyl on the other hand is an example of fallout that has recorded ongoing issues.


Dear god :rolleyes: This is the enlighten one's. I would suggest that maybe you read some of the NON GOVERNMENT USA FUNDED propaganda about the subject.
If you prefer documentaries the Great John Pilger did a very good film regarding the so called no radiation affects:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[jiffy]

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Not from the airburst weapon they used , when they explode above the ground very little radiation fallout is produced. When they go off at ground level , millions of tons of earth/debris is sucked up and radiated, this then creates the `cloud` which gently falls back to earth over a wide area contaminating everything it settles on.

See my other post, think for yourself ffs. How many of our soldiers died from exposer to nukes on so called airburst's on Christmas Island

[duckandcover]

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See my other post, think for yourself ffs. How many of our soldiers died from exposer to nukes on so called airburst's on Christmas Island

if thats true , only because at the time they didnt realise there would be a pulse of radiation emitted at detonation, they would have been far too close with not much more than tinted glasses for protection, some minor shielding would have dropped any death rate to almost zero.


"The Ministry of Defence maintains that few people were exposed to any radiation or contamination at all, and that studies had shown little or no health effects.[6][7] An analysis of illnesses in veterans of Grapple and other weapons tests produced statistics that are hard to interpret. The veterans showed rates of illness that were slightly higher than the control group, but the control group had lower rates of illness than the population as a whole while the veterans had rates that were about the same. Neither of these results has a clear explanation.[8] Reliable statistical analysis of the data is difficult because the samples are fairly small and incomplete."

[andyh]

Dear god :rolleyes: This is the enlighten one's. I would suggest that maybe you read some of the NON GOVERNMENT USA FUNDED propaganda about the subject.
If you prefer documentaries the Great John Pilger did a very good film regarding the so called no radiation affects:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Can't find any film by Pilger about it, that said the link I provided is japanese really (no doubt the US funded a lot more in japan after WW2 regardless) but all said and done..it's the ONLY solid mainstream evidence I know of.

There will have been "some" fallout but it's not going to be anything like a groundstrike. This is not only common sense but it's backed up by some pretty big names in Physics forget Pilger. I guess they're all in on the conspiracy lol.

All that said, there's no way in hell Israel is going to nuke Gaza..completely paranoid thread imho.

[jiffy]

here you go

http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q=the+truth+game&hl=en&emb=0&aq=f#

I will go through my Library and see if I can dig up the names of some "real" books on the subject......

I take it your aware that it rained shortly after which spread a radioactive dust (black tar) all over the city which was attributed to hundreds of thousands of fatalities.

As for "flippant" comment regarding physicists, they are more than likely the same highly regarded PHds stuck in the same paradigm where Gravity is constant:rolleyes:

[dreamweaver]

(remember this was a small 18 kilotonne nuke that was exploded a wee bit under 2000 feet from the ground...its sobering to think that todays nukes are many many times more powerful than this)

Yes and no. Some people give the impression that all modern nukes are multiple megatons, which isn't quite right.

There have, of course, been some nukes with enormous yields, the largest known example being the Tsar Bomba of 1961, which had a yield of 50 megatons. That was part of a willy-waving contest between the US and USSR to see who could make the biggest nuke, it wasn't exactly a practical weapon.

Modern tactical nukes can have a yield as low as one kiloton. Strategic nukes tend to carry multiple warheads, e.g. a Trident missile carries up to 10 warheads, each with a variable yield of up to 100 kilotons. The megaton devices tend to be carried by ICBMs or big bombers such as B-52s.

[andyh]

here you go

http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q=the+truth+game&hl=en&emb=0&aq=f#

I will go through my Library and see if I can dig up the names of some "real" books on the subject......

I take it your aware that it rained shortly after which spread a radioactive dust (black tar) all over the city which was attributed to hundreds of thousands of fatalities.

As for "flippant" comment regarding physicists, they are more than likely the same highly regarded PHds stuck in the same paradigm where Gravity is constant:rolleyes:

Thanks for the vid, it seems to be about nuclear war in general rather than specifically hiroshima hence why i didn't spot it. Watching it at the mo :)

As for the physicists, although perhaps wrong about many things they should be taken as "truth reference" in most instances. Just what is truth anyway? I doubt ANYONE on this forum can answer for sure. The very word "truthseeker" is a bad one imho as it's impossible to ever actually know the truth, at least in our present state of evolution. You can make educated guesses and come to consensus viewpoints but that's about as good as it's ever going to get (unless you can get a good job at the pentagon? heh)

As for the casualties, the immediate quoted amount I can find is 140,000.
Atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Perhaps another 60,000 from after affects but the timescale here is important and not mentioned.

Make no mistake about it, it was a sick and moronic thing to do, just like war in general.
The point I backed up made by duckandcover is that fallout is primarily created when a groundblast occurs.
If you'd care to argue against that then I'll glady take you up on it :)

Chernobyl disaster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
^ Thats a far better example of fallout by any standards.
The area will be uninhabitable for a long time to come.

Fallout for example could be a serious problem for a simple dirty bomb of the type often hypothesised for terrorists etc. You would definitely have some ground based contamination.

And yes you're quite right dreamweaver, if anything it's scaled back from how things used to be.
That said, Hiroshima is still a fraction of a single trident warhead if you consider that most are probably around the 80KT mark per warhead. There's definitely some small "tactical" nukes around- there's even some that can be fired from artillery. Not to mention all the depeleted uranium shells used in Iraq...sigh what a mess.

Regardless, I can't see Israel nuking gaza. They're nuts alright but not that nuts....unless and this is a perhaps...they have a neutron bomb. Even then, this would be suicide for Israel not from their own fallout but from the undoubted response. At the very least, the US would have to drop them altogether, at worst... well nuff said.

[boots]

Why wouldn't it be true? The Israeli government, and Israelis in the wider perspective have been to shown to view Palestinians and Arabs in general as sub-human and not worthy of the same treatment they expect themselves. I wouldn't put it past the disgusting war criminals to commit further genocide on anyone.


The Zionist dont give a fuck about the jewish people or Israel. There is nothing more they would like to do than drop a bomb on Palestine and wipe out as many as possible within that region and if it starts a nuclear war then all the better.

Mission accomplished for the Rothschild and the Illuminati.


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[jiffy]

Sorry had to laugh at the wiki links, can't say I ever use it as a source of knowledge or truth.

History is written by the victors, wiki is a fantastic repeater of "Historical Propaganda"

Watch the film and read the articles written by the journalist (can't remember his name been years since I research Hiroshima)

[revolutionary_jam]

Well given that Israel including the occupied territories is... about the size of Wales... that would be the most stupid fucking thing to do to yourself ever.

Turkey’s Prime Minister revealed that Israel had threatened to use nuclear weapons against Gaza Palestinians during its last onslaught against the Palestinian population.

http://www.daily.pk/israel-was-out-to-drop-nuclear-bomb-on-gaza-12571/
http://www.daily.pk/category/world/


Israel was out to drop Nuclear bomb on Gaza
Written by Abhijay Patel World Oct 27, 2009

Turkey’s Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has revealed that Israel had threatened to use nuclear weapons against Gaza Palestinians during its last onslaught against the Palestinian population.

According to an interview published on Monday by British daily, Turkish PM said that Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman had warned to use nuclear weapons against the Palestinians.

Recep Tayyip Erdogan rebuked Lieberman over the nuclear threat regarding the Gaza Strip but downplayed the tension between Turkey and Israel.

The comments by Turkish PM Recep Tayyip Erdogan was reported at a time when tension between Ankara and Jewish state was increasing following Ankara’s decision to cancel a multi-national air exercise in which Israeli air forces was also invited.

The tension between Turkey and Israel worsen when Ankara refused to take off a television drama that depicts Israeli soldiers killing Palestinian children.

[duckandcover]

Well given that Israel including the occupied territories is... about the size of Wales... that would be the most stupid fucking thing to do to yourself ever.

Ever heard of tactical nuclear weapons? ;)

[zarah]

So my knowledge of nuclear weapons isn't as deep as some people posting on this forum. My bad. :rolleyes:

Nothing posted here negates the possibility of Israel attacking Palestine with something 'nuclear'. A country smaller than most US states who is given billions and billion of dollars of someone else's money will no doubt spend copious amounts of time devising weapons, nuclear or otherwise, which harm the country next door while keeping their own people safe.


Talking about the Rothchild's et al seems to absolve Israel of its international law obligation responsibilities and is a convenient tool to wheel out as justfication for allowing Israel to get away with murder.

[andyh]

So my knowledge of nuclear weapons isn't as deep as some people posting on this forum. My bad. :rolleyes:

Nothing posted here negates the possibility of Israel attacking Palestine with something 'nuclear'. A country smaller than most US states who is given billions and billion of dollars of someone else's money will no doubt spend copious amounts of time devising weapons, nuclear or otherwise, which harm the country next door while keeping their own people safe.


Talking about the Rothchild's et al seems to absolve Israel of its international law obligation responsibilities and is a convenient tool to wheel out as justfication for allowing Israel to get away with murder.

It's in their interests to keep things the way they are zarah.

[jiffy]

Ever heard of tactical nuclear weapons? ;)

There is no such thing:rolleyes:

Just like smart bombs.
Military are great at showing black and white film of the one's that work.

[jesuitsdidit]

explain what?????? just because one person says something don't make it true.

erdogan is a respected and honourable man
is he not??

[jesuitsdidit]

When confronted in a radio interview about 12 months ago, he went very quiet.

link?

He publishes his stuff, but will not meet or even discuss his "ideas" with anyone who wil question him.

incorrect

I see him as a jewish liar

hes not jewish and hes not a liar
and anyway wots wrong with being jewish?

i cant tell you who i think you work for
bcoz i dont want any more warnings
on my account, bye..

[zarah]

i cant tell you who i think you work for
bcoz i dont want any more warnings
on my account, bye..

Who're you talking to? You've quoted yourself.