Educate me

[chazdarwin]

I found this forum by accident a few days ago and have been reading threads since, have to say its a bit much to take in, in fact its alot much to take in.

Is there really a case for believing in these things?

Most of you's seem like reasonably inteligent folk so there must be something behind this but on what grounds. I remember the famous tv show when David Icke came out with the lizard theory but until now hadnt thought or heard of it since, so a few questions to bring me up to speed...

What are these things meant to be, part us, seperate species or alien?

Why are they here?

Are they hostile, if so why and why live amongst us?

How would i know one?

Why havent the media printed pics etc?

Why dont their corpses turn up regularly in car wrecks etc

I know its alot of questions but its very hard to figure out what grounds all this is based on and what evidence there is, reading the forum there seems to be alot of personal belief but not hard facts:confused:

[martg]

Hi chazdarwin
I presume your questions mostly relate to reptilians?

firstly I should stress that far from everyone on these forums believe the whole reptilian thing and David Icke talks about much more than that. For more info on the new world order and illuminati I would recommend typing those terms into youtube or google. Lots of info and proof (at least as close to proof as you can get by watching a vid :)) available there.

as for reptilians/Annunaki most of the evidence comes from a confluence of ancient myth from pretty much every ancient culture and modern account of people who claim to have worked in underground bases or been involved in mind control programs or satanic rituals and claim to have seen people change into reptilians.

this is only a brief summary obviously, for more information you may want to read some of David's books or delve into the archives.

these vids might be a good place to start

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQl1umch2IU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hajn3ZyK4Sk&feature=video_response

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oI4AT--ZNKc&feature=video_response

[merlincove]

Welcome to the threads, chazdarwin :D

And welcome to the deep end :eek:

David discusses many of your questions in his books, perhaps you might find a lot of the answers there, The Biggest Secret will answer at least some of them, and the Matrix book wiull do likewise.

Briefly:

What are these things meant to be, part us, seperate species or alien?

A) they - the 'reptillians' - are discussed in the ancient tablets of Summer, pre Egyptian dynastiic rule, ie >10,000 years old, as being a race of beings directly responsable for the genetic manipulation of simian ancestry to create humans. In those days the humans were slaves, nothing has changed over the last ten millenia except they have become more covert.

Why are they here?

A) Why are we here? :rolleyes: They are here to subjugate the human race in an atempt to thwart our furtherance of knowledge and ascension. That is one aspect. When humanity comes to realise the sunjugated aspect of its existance then we will as a race step mout of the role of servants to these overlords, they will lose their power over us. At athe point of ascension they will have no more slaves, so they reap negativity (wars, corruption) to keep us from reaching spiritual heights and moving out of their reach. This is one answer, there are many others.

They are also here to create a balance, so that an understanding can be reached in regards to how universal negativity can be channelled and dissipitated.

Are they hostile, if so why and why live amongst us?

A) Because this world is where we are, physically, where else wouyld they live if they needed to be close to us in order to subjugate us?

{quote]How would i know one?[/quote]

A) Why would you want to? But quite simply, you would if you ever met one :eek:

{quote]Why havent the media printed pics etc?[/quote]

A) Because they are the media, they control the media, they created the media in order to further their agenda(s). and it has worked tremendously well.

Why dont their corpses turn up regularly in car wrecks etc

A) Who is to say that they don't?

[chazdarwin]

It certainly is the deep end, theres lots to study there, as an atheist and a Darwinist i hope you understand that I'll probably have many questions for yous but it is a fascinating theory/subject (possibly the wrong word there but you know what i mean) and hopefully i'll be up to speed on it soon:)

[kappy0405]

Since you're a Darwinist, you might be comforted to hear that the theory of alien-creators doesn't necessarily cancel out the theory of evolution. They could very well go hand in hand, and they probably do if there is any truth to this theory. Actually, I believe Icke mentions that the 'missing link' IS the genetic manipulation done by the Reptilians, or other beings.

As others have pointed out, the origin of this theory goes back as far as any written records we've ever discovered. Stories of the 'Gods' are abundant in ancient historical accounts, and these Gods are most commonly depicted in Reptilian fashion. It is also usually explained that they came down from the heavens (space) in lights in the sky.. etc.. Much of these writings seem to suggest arrival in some sort of flying craft, even without interpretating much. Whats strange is that all these stories are eerily similar all across the globe. Even Native American tales have elements that echo those which came out of Sumeria. How did so many areas with seemingly no other connection end up with the same common themes in their versions of history?

A major theme in these stories is that these Gods eventually bred with the "daughters of Men" and created a superior hybrid race, though this might not be meant to be taken literally. Even the book of Genesis, which altered and adopted many aspects of Sumerian records, suggests that these offspring became the ruling class. The KJV says 'men of renown'...

Anyway, I would suggest trying to get a hold of 'The Biggest Secret'. You probably don't want to invest much in this theory right now, but I'm sure you can find a copy from Amazon.com or a similar site for less than $5. And of course, you can look up some of Icke's lectures on youtube.

[karol2020]

Hi there, other researcher that talks a lot about reptialns is Jonh Rhodes, but he talks more about reptilain humanoids and not shapeshiftings, but is related. Take a look at his videos, you will see other interesting related videos there too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXJi3kHbu2g

I for myself can´t say believe in the reptilians, but it´s a possibility, so I like to read about this subject.....

[chazdarwin]

Ive read quite a bit about this today and there does seem to be alot written through history and different cultures to support something, not sure what but its as convincing (if not more so) a theory than any religous one Ive read. Ive obviously just skinned the surface so far so I shall carry on reading, for me its a fresh view and i was born curious lol

The ICA stones are a very interesting subject (i spent a good couple of hours on them) and have opened up several different avenues for me to explore.

I cant say im going to suddenly believe any of this but im always willing to listen and learn, an open mind is a great thing:)

[snakesnladders]

some people do have vertical pupils. or pupils that go vertical from time to time. its not made up. funny how it shows up so much in horror movies etc too. look out for vertical pupils from now on and you'll see a LOT of them in horror movies. now you are educated.

they own the media. you'll never see it on there u nless they want you to.

hostile, i dunno. they're reptiles i guess, so cold blooded not the same emotional response as mammals. but still can care for/look after their young, as reptiles do too. just not in the same way as mammals do. as for feeding; probly not pleasant to watch. but then is a crocodile eating pleasant to watch. just nature isnt it?
i guess if they see humans as food; then wed see them as hostile.

but im sure cows in a slaughterhouse or chickens in a horrific chicken cage factory wud see humans as pretty evil and hostile. and yet many humans cudnt care less about this. also a lobster or prawn about to be boiled alive, or a fish suffocating slowly might also view humans as hostile and unpleasant.

i guess it depends on whether you're the fish or not.

if you're talking to someone and they're a bit annoyed and their pupils go noticeably vertical, perhaps you're talking to a hybrid or reptile. perhaps.

the idea is that they've interbred or spliced their dna with human dna. why i dont know. perhaps to control the human host better? perhaps they take possession of the body during the 'shapeshift'? who knows. perhaps the human part doesnt even know about the reptile part. perhaps the 'human' vehicles' are victims in this. perhaps not.

the idea is also that the spliced dna gives the hybrids certain mental abilities that reptiles have that most humans dont. (added abilities).

well there's lots of reptile imagery around the world and anecdotal evidence. probably personal experience is the only way you're gonna know if its true or not.

theres physical evidence for othe rspecies of aliens i think, more so than reptiles. but this doesnt mean icke is wrong. at all.

car crashes... i dunno if thats how it works. if they shift then they can be either; so they cud look like a dead human if they died in human form. perhaps.

[sturmgeist]

Most people posting on reptilians on this forum are idiots
I have to be honest.

However, there are a lot of interesting things about the theory! In creation myth all around the world there is a common theme. Serpent Gods creating man.
This is my post and it is filled with links to Wikipedia articles. Take a look at it and let me know what you think.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58908&page=2

It is unbelievable. My post has had few replies, while postd with the most ridiculous stories ever invented get the most attention.
Seriously, there is a surplus of idiots on this forum and I am suprised that normal people like yourself even take the time and effort to post on this forum.

[snakesnladders]

ha ha ha.

yeah there are a lot of idiots on this forum.

pity people cant sort out who's real and whos not.

[mark1963]

Science says nothing is real (we are in a hologram) - therefore the conclusion must be everything is possible.

[martg]

Science says nothing is real (we are in a hologram) - therefore the conclusion must be everything is possible.

+1
very true, it never ceases to amaze me that people who have found out that they have been lied to all their lives can be 100% certain that they understand reality and anyone that questions that reality is a fool :rolleyes: