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pok3r72
27-10-2009, 11:46 PM
Hello brothers and sisters,
a really awakening documentation (50 part a 10 min) :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFXEkCIY7L4&feature=player_profilepage
Love and piece
Jens
mrerisian
27-10-2009, 11:59 PM
Think I might've already watched this. Does it reckon that Islam is the answer or something like that?
pok3r72
28-10-2009, 12:09 AM
no - thats not the message of this video. Watch the first 20 parts and you see its really awakening not in the future - now and yet!
mrerisian
28-10-2009, 12:17 AM
no - thats not the message of this video. Watch the first 20 parts and you see its really awakening not in the future - now and yet!
Ok - I'll give it a look but I seem to remember wasting time on one that had a similar title that kept quoting the Koran at me and in the end told me to worship Alan.
pok3r72
28-10-2009, 12:23 AM
My personal rating for this video is nearly the same with David Icke´s Videos. They are equal for me.
I´m Christian and have no problems to watch it .... think that say enough...
kappy0405
28-10-2009, 12:30 AM
for monotheists, this is a must see ASAP.
for the rest of the anti-nwo movement, it's worth watching on an evening when you dont have much else going on, or when you just want to see things from another perspective.
The series was very entertaining, and does make many good points even from a non-religious perspective.
Even if monotheism is bull-shittery, it seems pretty clear that the elite are manipulating things to coincide with apocalyptic revelations. The 'holy books' could very well contain a blueprint because there just seems to be too much going on nowadays to dismiss it as coincidence. I would also recommend the series '13 Masonic Secrets' and 'Age of Appearance' on youtube, which are made from the same clique.
normaltime
28-10-2009, 12:41 AM
My personal rating for this video is nearly the same with David Icke´s Videos. They are equal for me.
I´m Christian and have no problems to watch it .... think that say enough...
The fundamental difference is David icke's or any other spiritual awareness vids/information are not preaching religion. But I got to hand it to them its very good propaganda. It Really sucks you in with valid facts on the NWO, but unfortunately the more you see the more its obvious they're trying a little too hard to relate any information they discuss to Islam at any given opportunity, very manipulative.
pok3r72
28-10-2009, 01:33 AM
ok - my english is not well enough to write what i have in my head right now.
The anti-NWO movement and the NWO self want you to beliefe that there is no god and that is for me hard to beliefe.
But the Holy Bible gives a lot of answers wich i found in 2 very interesting parts:
Galater (5.13-15) and Johannes (10.11-16)
I have only a german version and i think it makes no sense to post it here. But if you read those both you get view of what really is important.
-Love the human as you love yourselve. (Galater)
-merging religion to one by Jesus as leader ...
Its not difficult to understand both messages if you read them. The way to paradise or higher dimension (connecting the knots) could be reached by simply be more "human".
If you understood it - it is really awakening.
Thanks Jesus to be with us ... Amen.
mrerisian
28-10-2009, 01:53 AM
unfortunately the more you see the more its obvious they're trying a little too hard to relate any information they discuss to Islam at any given opportunity, very manipulative.
Yeah - it is the one I thought. Don't get me wrong, it's not a complete waste of time, as a previous poster said it's worth looking at it from a different perspective but not by any means a great doc.
In fact I've long thought about the following:
Even if monotheism is bull-shittery, it seems pretty clear that the elite are manipulating things to coincide with apocalyptic revelations. The 'holy books' could very well contain a blueprint
Very true.
Religion is 100% part of the con. No doubt about that. Religious books work as sigils / icons / symbols / spells that are charged by believers. In that respect a film like 'the arrivals' is actually quite dangerous in that it suggests to people that by following religion you're helping when exactly the opposite is true.
pok3r72
28-10-2009, 02:11 AM
so what did David Icke tell us :
After all the Inf. Cons. act in love ....
thats what i said too - act in love but you could do it now and you dont have to wait for an upcomming event to do this.
I respect your Point of view because it based on the same "love for human".
:)
and btw. if you want to have a look at my own research look at :
http://www.youtube.com/user/pythia2011
there you see its more about facts then could be ....
and something to think about too :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txraxhVg954
kappy0405
28-10-2009, 03:45 AM
Religion is 100% part of the con. No doubt about that. Religious books work as sigils / icons / symbols / spells that are charged by believers. In that respect a film like 'the arrivals' is actually quite dangerous in that it suggests to people that by following religion you're helping when exactly the opposite is true.
well, I'm not sure I agree with all of that.. the sigils, spells, etc.. but perhaps I just haven't done the research on that aspect.
I see it as merely a divide & conquer type of thing, as well as a distraction tool, or even making people apathetic with the 'oh well - god will save me' attitude. In that respect, they are certainly dangerous. At the same time, some good does come out of it: keeping people from being purely materialistic, it brings people/families together, etc.. Religion has been used in a pretty f'd up way, but the majority of followers I've met have developed strong morals from it. Also, they will at least grasp some of whats going on, meaning more people will be reached. That's a good thing imo, even if they aren't seeing the bigger picture yet.
mrerisian
28-10-2009, 04:52 AM
well, I'm not sure I agree with all of that.. the sigils, spells, etc.. but perhaps I just haven't done the research on that aspect.
Well here's a springboard for you. I'm waiting for some files to transfer on my 'puter so I may as well try to lay it out for people who are interested in a less hysterical and reactionary version...
Firstly there's a couple of beliefs you need to hold to understand how this works. One basic concept is: you need to believe that psychic energy (for want of a better phrase) can be invested into something inanimate like a symbol or a concept. Secondly you need to believe that once invested that energy can then be harvested and used by others. The more intense the emotions projected onto the symbol the more you charge it.
The christian cross, as a symbol, has had a lot of power invested in it over the years. Starting with Jesus being killed on it and moving through people preying to it, crusades etc. Death sacrifices provide very strong emotional energy. Preying to it adds more etc.
This then gives that symbol power which you can extract from it if you know how. An exorcism is a good example of this. You use the cross's power to ward off spirits etc. Using it as a good luck charm is another, slightly weaker, example.
Now, symbols have meaning built into them when they are first created. This becomes the foundational meaning for that symbol. The cross was obviously not first used by Christians and has many meanings but its foundation is one of punishment, fear, bodily death and the rule of law. It's something criminals were killed on.
The sheer force of Christianity has shifted that meaning slightly over the years but at core that's what it really represents. Not, as people think, love, resurrection etc. It's a symbol domination by the powers that be.
At the risk of waffling, again, I'll just quickly move on to how this affects what I was saying about the true purpose of religion. This symbol and its meaning has now been charged for many years by well intentioned people who know nothing about the occult logic which lies behind it. Some people believe that this is the reason we live in a world which is broadly defined by: punishment, fear, bodily death and the rule of law. Because these symbols have been allowed to dominate parts of the earth seeding their 'vibes'.
Take this one step further (the idea of symbols having power) and you get to the point where you have to consider that spell books such as the Koran and The Bible are actually massive complex symbols which dictate an image of God. These books are charged by worship etc and their power can have an effect in the real world.
The Bible (and to a lesser extent the Koran) have proved to be (in part) prophetic. Foundation of Israel, mark of the beast, armies from the east etc. Part of this is self fulfilling prophecy and some think part of it is down to this occult logic which has underpinned the formulation of these modern religions.
Whoever made up Islam certainly had an understanding of the power of symbolism as did the early Christians.
All the criticisms you note are part of the five sense problem of religion but once you start to look at it from an occult perspective it's difficult not to see it as a cleverly constructed con.
At the same time, some good does come out of it: keeping people from being purely materialistic, it brings people/families together, etc.. Religion has been used in a pretty f'd up way, but the majority of followers I've met have developed strong morals from it.
See I just don't think the above is true. Our era's reliance on materialism is probably as a direct result of Christianity. The crucifixion being all about material death and pain in the five sense world. If there's one thing we can say about the Christian/Jewish/Koranic God it's that he's pretty keen on money.
As for strong morals. Again, I'm not so sure. Religious people do not need to consider morality, they just do as they're told. They're morally infantile. Furthermore if God tells them to do wrong, they'd better get on and do it. Hence suicide bombers, crusades etc, etc, etc.
Good book: Secret History Of The World.
Good YouTube: Grant Morrison at Disinfo talking about Sigils.
kappy0405
28-10-2009, 05:08 AM
you make great points, tbh.. I can't really counter anything you said. :D
I certainly believe in psychic energy and its effect on symbolism, but I guess I haven't really thought about on that level - so I'll definitely check out the book and the youtube lecture. thx.
devanshoom
28-10-2009, 07:33 AM
Think I might've already watched this. Does it reckon that Islam is the answer or something like that?
i saw this last year and i got a similar impression......the pro-islam thing kind of ruined an otherwise decent film.
zmanforever
05-11-2009, 08:08 AM
I have watched the entire series and must say fantastic. It doesn't just focus on Islam though, if you watch the entire series you will see.
They focus on bringing all religions together, by showing a conference that happened which invited people of all religions to come and accept we are one people of this Earth.
I had my mind opened even more to the NWO agenda and this also gives a very detailed incite into the history and current history of the Illuminati/Free Masons and the Satanic rituals they follow strictly.
The movie is made by Lebanese men and with help from Abdullah Hashim who has worked a lot on behalf of helping people understand the Chakkra energy connections the NWO are working on.
A+ watch just skip the Islamic parts if you wish only 45 minutes out of 8 hours is devoted to the Islamic view point of the Dajjal (Antichrist)
gaias child
05-11-2009, 11:55 AM
I also think it is very good and although they may be islamic it isn't pro islamic if watch right to the end