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keithm
27-10-2009, 07:10 PM
The outrageous truth slips out: Labour cynically plotted to transform the entire make-up of Britain without telling us
By Melanie Phillips
Last updated at 8:15 AM on 26th October 2009


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1222977/MELANIE-PHILLIPS-The-outrageous-truth-slips-Labour-cynically-plotted-transform-entire-make-Britain-telling-us.html#ixzz0V4CkxOVp

now the bastard is to become el presidente

orderoutofchaos
27-10-2009, 07:19 PM
If anyone was uaware what this Labour government was up to then they must be donkeys and deserve the state that this country is in. I worked this out years ago. For fuck sake people you are so nieve sometimes.

Excellent post kieth

size_of_light
27-10-2009, 07:23 PM
If anyone was uaware what this Labour government was up to then they must be donkeys and deserve the state that this country is in. I worked this out years ago. For fuck sake people you are so nieve sometimes.

Excellent post kieth

Ya-ya....John Pilger laid all this out in his brilliant book Hidden Agendas back in 1998, just after this snivelling prick came into office.

jiffy
27-10-2009, 07:28 PM
Ya-ya....John Pilger laid all this out in his brilliant book Hidden Agendas back in 1998, just after this snivelling prick came into office.

That he did, still some of us are better read than others;)

Freedom next time is also good read:D



shhhh don't tell anyone, he is also a Socialist

edelweiss pirate
27-10-2009, 07:31 PM
If anyone was uaware what this Labour government was up to then they must be donkeys and deserve the state that this country is in. I worked this out years ago. For fuck sake people you are so nieve sometimes.

Excellent post kieth

I voted for Arthur Scargill's 'Old Labour' party in 1997......

Felt a bit silly afterwards but in retrospect glad as fuck! I think the fact that new labour wanted to scrap student grants told me they were a fine bunch of cunts.

steevo
27-10-2009, 07:33 PM
That he did, still some of us are better read than others;)

Freedom next time is also good read:D



shhhh don't tell anyone, he is also a Socialist


"shhhh don't tell anyone, he is also a Socialist"

What do you mean by that ? :confused:

jiffy
27-10-2009, 07:33 PM
If anyone was uaware what this Labour government was up to then they must be donkeys and deserve the state that this country is in. I worked this out years ago. For fuck sake people you are so nieve sometimes.

Excellent post kieth

The problem with this quote is it implies there is an alternative:confused:

orderoutofchaos
27-10-2009, 07:36 PM
The problem with this quote is it implies there is an alternative:confused:

There was an alternative, that comment is just something for you to hide behind. There are more than 3 political parties in this country you know. Or just dont vote IT IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT.

jiffy
27-10-2009, 07:36 PM
"shhhh don't tell anyone, he is also a Socialist"

What do you mean by that ? :confused:


Because you mention the word socialist people start screaming Fabian Society’s and NWO

jiffy
27-10-2009, 07:38 PM
There was an alternative, that comment is just something for you to hide behind. There are more than 3 political parties in this country you know. Or just dont vote IT IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT.


So in the 1997 election WHAT credible party could of been voted for(other than the main 3).....NOT voting is not an option.

steevo
27-10-2009, 07:39 PM
Because you mention the word socialist people start screaming Fabian Society’s and NWO

Who are you saying is a socialist ?

meksar
27-10-2009, 07:40 PM
Blair really brought in the far to left aspects of Britain with the Fabien Socialists(Wolves in Sheep's Clothing), now he is hiding behind forgiveness from the Jesuit papacy and is a man of "global faith". He is a psychopathic war criminal who lied to all the people that unfortunately put their trust into his superiors agenda. Now they are going to bring in David "The Chameleon" Cameron just before they try to bring in this E.U. Will Blair be president of the E.U?, maybe or maybe it could be a trick for someone more favorable to challenge and defeat Blair for the seat.

jiffy
27-10-2009, 07:43 PM
Who are you saying is a socialist ?

erm the person in the quote.....John Pilger:confused:

orderoutofchaos
27-10-2009, 07:44 PM
So in the 1997 election WHAT credible party could of been voted for(other than the main 3).....NOT voting is not an option.

Ah NOT VOTING is an option, please explain why it is not. Are you telling me New Labour were a "credible party", if you are then i understand your previous comments. It is easy. Either dont vote or vote for UKIP, BNP or one of the other fringe partys, they will soon get the message. You have the exact attitude that got us into this mess in the first place, always trying to make excuses why the country is in the mess its in, first we blame the Paki, then the Muslim, then the Polish etc etc etc YOU JUST NEED TO BLAME YOURSELVES. By 2005 prettymuch anyone with a brain must have clicked to what was going on, That was the time to remove this government, but no, i could not believe it went Labour got voted back in, that just shows the indifference/ignorance of the public.

steevo
27-10-2009, 07:46 PM
erm the person in the quote.....John Pilger:confused:

Any links to back that up ?

edelweiss pirate
27-10-2009, 07:48 PM
Ah NOT VOTING is an option, please explain why it is not. Are you telling me New Labour were a "credible party", if you are then i understand your previous comments. It is easy. Either dont vote or vote for UKIP, BNP or one of the other fringe partys, they will soon get the message. You have the exact attitude that got us into this mess in the first place, always trying to make excuses why the country is in the mess its in, first we blame the Paki, then the Muslim, then the Polish etc etc etc YOU JUST NEED TO BLAME YOURSELVES.

Exactly, just what I did.... I knew they wouldn't get in but I wasn't going to vote for a bunch of smarmy cunts. All the major parties are phoney assholes.

Always vote for one of the minority parties.... There's some great stuff there...

This the candidate list from 2005 election... surely there's something for everyone...

Parties
This table indicates those parties with over 500 votes nationwide ↓ Seats ↓ Gains ↓ Losses ↓ Net
Gain/Loss ↓ Seats % ↓ Votes % ↓ Votes ↓ +/– ↓
Labour 356 0 47 –47 55.2 35.3 9,562,122 –5.4%
Conservative 198 36 3 +33 30.7 32.3 8,772,598 +0.6%
Liberal Democrat 62 16 5 +11 9.6 22.1 5,981,874 +3.7%
UKIP 0 0 0 0 0 2.2 603,298 +0.8%
SNP 6 2 0 +2 0.9 1.5 412,267 –0.3%
Green 0 0 0 0 0 1.0 257,758 +0.4%
Democratic Unionist 9 4 0 +4 1.4 0.9 241,856 +0.2%
BNP 0 0 0 0 0 0.7 192,746 +0.5%
Plaid Cymru 3 0 1 –1 0.5 0.6 174,838 –0.1%
Sinn Féin 5 1 0 +1 0.8 0.6 174,530 –0.1%
Ulster Unionist 1 0 5 –5 0.2 0.5 127,414 –0.3%
Social Democratic and Labour 3 1 1 0 0.5 0.5 125,626 –0.1%
Independent 1 1 0 +1 0.2 0.5 122,000 +0.1%
Respect 1 1 0 +1 0.2 0.3 68,094 N/A
Scottish Socialist 0 0 0 0 0 0.2 43,514 –0.1%
Veritas 0 0 0 0 0 0.1 40,481 N/A
Alliance 0 0 0 0 0 0.1 28,291 0.0%
Scottish Green 0 0 0 0 0 0.1 25,760 +0.1%
Socialist Labour 0 0 0 0 0 0.1 20,192 0.0%
Liberal 0 0 0 0 0 0.1 19,068 0.0%
Health Concern 1 0 0 0 0.2 0.1 18,739 0.0%
English Democrats 0 0 0 0 0 0.1 14,506 N/A
Socialist Alternative 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 9,398 N/A
National Front 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 8,029 N/A
Legalise Cannabis 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 6,985 0.0%
Community Action 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 6,557 N/A
Monster Raving Loony 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 6,311 0.0%
Christian Vote 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 4,004 N/A
Mebyon Kernow 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 3,552 0.0%
Forward Wales 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 3,461 N/A
Christian Peoples 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 3,291 N/A
Rainbow Dream Ticket 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 2,463 N/A
Community Group 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 2,365 N/A
Ashfield Independents 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 2,292 N/A
Alliance for Green Socialism 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 1,978 N/A
Residents 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 1,850 N/A
Workers' Party 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 1,669 0.0%
Socialist Environmental 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 1,649 N/A
Scottish Unionist 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 1,266 0.0%
Workers' Revolutionary 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 1,143 0.0%
New England 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 1,224 N/A
Communist 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 1,124 0.0%
Community Group 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 1,118 N/A
Peace and Progress 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 1,036 N/A
Scottish Senior Citizens 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 1,017 N/A
You Party 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 1,006 N/A
SOS! Northampton 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 932 N/A
Independent Working Class 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 892 N/A
Democratic Labour 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 770 N/A
British Public Party 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 763 N/A
Free Scotland Party 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 743 N/A
Pensioners Party Scotland 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 716 N/A
Publican Party 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 678 N/A
English Independence Party 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 654 N/A
Socialist Unity 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 581 N/A
Local Community Party 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 570 N/A
Clause 28 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 516 N/A
UK Community Issues Party 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 502 N/A
Total 646 27,110,727

jiffy
27-10-2009, 07:48 PM
Blair really brought in the far to left aspects of Britain with the Fabien Socialists(Wolves in Sheep's Clothing), now he is hiding behind forgiveness from the Jesuit papacy and is a man of "global faith". He is a psychopathic war criminal who lied to all the people that unfortunately put their trust into his superiors agenda. Now they are going to bring in David "The Chameleon" Cameron just before they try to bring in this E.U. Will Blair be president of the E.U?, maybe or maybe it could be a trick for someone more favorable to challenge and defeat Blair for the seat.


See just what I said Fabien Socialists:rolleyes:

Far left...sorry you have no clue what your talking about.

Blair (ism) as was Thatcher (ism) is Neo Liberalism which was handed down from the elite in the 19th century

The concept is neither traditional left or right, which is why all three parties have embrace it;)

edelweiss pirate
27-10-2009, 07:49 PM
Legalise Cannabis 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 6,985 0.0%

I found my party!

jiffy
27-10-2009, 07:51 PM
Any links to back that up ?

I don't need links I have meet the man three times at lectures, which he give's all over the world at socialist events;)

free thinker
27-10-2009, 07:53 PM
Ah NOT VOTING is an option, please explain why it is not. Are you telling me New Labour were a "credible party", if you are then i understand your previous comments. It is easy. Either dont vote or vote for UKIP, BNP or one of the other fringe partys, they will soon get the message. You have the exact attitude that got us into this mess in the first place, always trying to make excuses why the country is in the mess its in, first we blame the Paki, then the Muslim, then the Polish etc etc etc YOU JUST NEED TO BLAME YOURSELVES. By 2005 prettymuch anyone with a brain must have clicked to what was going on, That was the time to remove this government, but no, i could not believe it went Labour got voted back in, that just shows the indifference/ignorance of the public.

Exactly my philosphy, anything but the status quo, good post.

steevo
27-10-2009, 07:53 PM
I don't need links I have meet the man three times at lectures, which he give's all over the world at socialist events;)

I am DEFINITELY not saying that you are lying, but why dont you back up that claim ? :confused:

nicolaj
27-10-2009, 07:54 PM
See just what I said Fabien Socialists:rolleyes:

Far left...sorry you have no clue what your talking about.

Blair (ism) as was Thatcher (ism) is Neo Liberalism which was handed down from the elite in the 19th century

The concept is neither traditional left or right, which is why all three parties have embrace it;)


true they've all had their part to play in this.

Barry Smith was talking about this in the 80's...it isn't just this country it's worldwide.

meksar
27-10-2009, 07:57 PM
See just what I said Fabien Socialists:rolleyes:

Far left...sorry you have no clue what your talking about.

Blair (ism) as was Thatcher (ism) is Neo Liberalism which was handed down from the elite in the 19th century

The concept is neither traditional left or right, which is why all three parties have embrace it;)

I think they play both paths against each other with the prominent members being aware of the true agenda. For this agenda to unfold it has to be splintered into many groups and factions for the desired result. Your right in saying that that this concept is not really left vs right this is just how it plays out to public with dodgy handshakes and meetings behind closed doors where the real action takes place.

orderoutofchaos
27-10-2009, 07:59 PM
true they've all had their part to play in this.

Barry Smith was talking about this in the 80's...it isn't just this country it's worldwide.

Its New World Order ism. Nothing else, you are wasting time focusing on small details. The point is our politicians have been secretly working against us.

jiffy
27-10-2009, 08:01 PM
I am DEFINITELY not saying that you are lying, but why dont you back up that claim ? :confused:


I'm confused as to what you would define as "proof"

Used to be a Socialist Journalist for the Mirror (when the Mirror was a socialist paper)
Used to write for a Italian Socialist news paper (until they wouldn't print an article about Obama)
Look up some of his speeches on Google, you will find a lot are to Socialist groups in the US.

Or just read his article's on his web site. The tone is a man of Social Justice;)

amaralsright
27-10-2009, 08:01 PM
This is treason.

zarah
27-10-2009, 08:02 PM
Whether John Pilger is or isn't a 'socialist' or any other kind of 'ist' he's still the most honest journalist out there at the minute.

Blair, the slimy tosser, would sell his mother if there was something in it for him, and he's just about to reap the rewards of being an elite puppet for 10 years. I'm reading 'The Strange Death of David Kelly', written by an MP, which suggests that Blair's acquiencing to the demands of the Bush cabal was due to blackmail, which would make him spineless as well as a murdering war criminal.

Unfortunately, in this oligarchical system dressed up as democracy, we can use apathy or voting, a 'none of the above' cross isn't permitted.

orderoutofchaos
27-10-2009, 08:04 PM
Whether John Pilger is or isn't a 'socialist' or any other kind of 'ist' he's still the most honest journalist out there at the minute.

Blair, the slimy tosser, would sell his mother if there was something in it for him, and he's just about to reap the rewards of being an elite puppet for 10 years. I'm reading 'The Strange Death of David Kelly', written by an MP, which suggests that Blair's acquiencing to the demands of the Bush cabal was due to blackmail, which would make him spineless as well as a murdering war criminal.

Unfortunately, in this oligarchical system dressed up as democracy, we can use apathy or voting, a 'none of the above' cross isn't permitted.

So what were they blackmailing him with? As to "none of the above" you can spoil your voting paper, That should do the trick or vote for one of the fringe partys, there was really no excuse for voting this Labour government in for a second term.

free thinker
27-10-2009, 08:07 PM
This is treason.

So is the queens signing the lisbon treaty, The magna carta gave us certain rights and freedoms, but like everthing else, it gets swept under the carpet, you try bring any of it up, no fucker is interested

steevo
27-10-2009, 08:08 PM
I'm confused as to what you would define as "proof"

Used to be a Socialist Journalist for the Mirror (when the Mirror was a socialist paper)
Used to write for a Italian Socialist news paper (until they wouldn't print an article about Obama)
Look up some of his speeches on Google, you will find a lot are to Socialist groups in the US.

Or just read his article's on his web site. The tone is a man of Social Justice;)

I didnt ask for "proof", that is YOUR word.

Like I said, i am not saying that you are making it up, but I just wanted a link to back up your claim, that's all.

I have read some of his articles, and they seem to be bang on. I am not saying that he isnt a wolf in sheep's clothing, but I have yet to see these socialist leanings that you say that he has, he seems genuine with what he SAYS. Personally (years ago) I USED to think that socialism was the right way to go, until I realised that it's all a big scam. I dont know if Pilger ever felt the same way or not (I dont know), but i havent seen anything to suggest that.

zarah
27-10-2009, 08:08 PM
So what were they blackmailing him with?

It was hearsay so it doesn't go into any detail..the writer basically says that Blair's behaviour, which was in contravention of law and British interests could only have been due to information which the Americans had which Blair didn't want released. Apparently, microphones were left on when Bush addressed Blair by yelling, 'Yo, Blair,' in his direction and Blair was overheard being dismissed while asking Bush if he could go to the Middle East to try and work on a peace agreement.

orderoutofchaos
27-10-2009, 08:13 PM
It was hearsay so it doesn't go into any detail..the writer basically says that Blair's behaviour, which was in contravention of law and British interests could only have been due to information which the Americans had which Blair didn't want released. Apparently, microphones were left on when Bush addressed Blair by yelling, 'Yo, Blair,' in his direction and Blair was overheard being dismissed while asking Bush if he could go to the Middle East to try and work on a peace agreement.


Or of course they could all be working for the same society and Blair was just carrying out the agenda.

nicolaj
27-10-2009, 08:13 PM
Its New World Order ism. Nothing else, you are wasting time focusing on small details. The point is our politicians have been secretly working against us.

I know...this thing is bigger than just the uk.
Thacher was used to dismantle state assets in the 80's. At the same time other goverments where selling off their countries assets.

jiffy
27-10-2009, 08:14 PM
I didnt ask for "proof", that is YOUR word.

Like I said, i am not saying that you are making it up, but I just wanted a link to back up your claim, that's all.

I have read some of his articles, and they seem to be bang on. I am not saying that he isnt a wolf in sheep's clothing, but I have yet to see these socialist leanings that you say that he has, he seems genuine with what he SAYS. Personally (years ago) I USED to think that socialism was the right way to go, until I realised that it's all a big scam. I dont know if Pilger ever felt the same way or not (I dont know), but i havent seen anything to suggest that.

We appear to have our wires crossed, the shhh he is a socialist was supposed to be Ironic........I'm a socialist and proud to be.....As with everything in this world it get/got hijacked by some (Fabian)

Some of the best people in journalism and Politics are Socialists.
John Pilger, Tony Ben, Hedges, Pinter to name a few....

orderoutofchaos
27-10-2009, 08:15 PM
I know...this thing is bigger than just the uk.
Thacher was used to dismantle state assets in the 80's. At the same time other goverments where selling off their countries assets.


Exactly, this is just another piece in the jigsaw towards one world government and One world currency

jiffy
27-10-2009, 08:16 PM
I know...this thing is bigger than just the uk.
Thacher was used to dismantle state assets in the 80's. At the same time other goverments where selling off their countries assets.

If you remember when we had Thatcher (ism) the US had Reagan (ism)
not forgetting the "Special" relationship;)

free thinker
27-10-2009, 08:18 PM
All communists are socialists, but not all socialists are communists.

nicolaj
27-10-2009, 08:22 PM
If you remember when we had Thatcher (ism) the US had Reagan (ism)
not forgetting the "Special" relationship;)

yes I remember it! sickening

and remember the same stuff was going down in New Zealand and Oz at the same time as maggie was selling everthing up here....sell sell sell...then the crash right after...then who brought the small stockholders shares up?:rolleyes:

worlds biggest con!

zarah
27-10-2009, 08:23 PM
Or of course they could all be working for the same society and Blair was just carrying out the agenda.

Absolutely. Blair's too much of a twat to run anything, but doing what he's been told for 10 years means he gets to play Pres of Europe for a while.

nicolaj
27-10-2009, 08:24 PM
Absolutely. Blair's too much of a twat to run anything, but doing what he's been told for 10 years means he gets to play Pres of Europe for a while.

yes and dont his small change in faith!

cruise4
27-10-2009, 08:32 PM
Now now, apparently it's just jealosy that we aren't in these priviledged positions to be glorious criminals, traitors and assorted scum.

jiffy
27-10-2009, 08:37 PM
Now now, apparently it's just jealosy that we aren't in these priviledged positions to be glorious criminals, traitors and assorted scum.

There is a point there. Ultimate power and all that......

I do truly believe it takes a very "GREAT" person not to be corrupted by wealth and power.


Always laugh at the way "average Joe" pontificates about MP expenses while nicking Stationary from work!!!!

halftheworldaway
27-10-2009, 08:38 PM
That he did, still some of us are better read than others;)

Freedom next time is also good read:D



shhhh don't tell anyone, he is also a Socialist

Good read, I agree.

But did you notice he made no mention of Bilderberg (or the Trilateral Commission or CFR)?

That was a triumph of sorts.

jiffy
27-10-2009, 08:48 PM
Good read, I agree.

But did you notice he made no mention of Bilderberg (or the Trilateral Commission or CFR)?

That was a triumph of sorts.

It has been a while and a good few books again:eek: but now you mention it!!!

andyh
27-10-2009, 09:12 PM
Did anyone notice the name of the columnist who revealed this info? - Andrew Neather.
He works for the LES.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-home/columnistarchive/Andrew%20Neather-columnist-502-archive.do

Now scroll down to the bottom and guess which paper is linked?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

^

So this guy writes speeches for our leaders, then afterwards boasts about it and a sister paper spills the beans!

The same reporter for the mail also penned this article- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1211620/MELANIE-PHILLIPS.html

Does anyone see a bloody pattern here?

breezinreezin
27-10-2009, 11:28 PM
Blair (ism) as was Thatcher (ism) is Neo Liberalism which was handed down from the elite in the 19th century

The concept is neither traditional left or right, which is why all three parties have embrace it;)

Neo-liberalism??? Blair, as was Clinton, was a follower of Amitai Etzioni's Third Way, or as it should now be known to all--Communitarinism. It's feted as being the synthesis of Capitalism and Socialism, a public-private partnership; a completely novel world view, transcendent of politics. Almost a religion to it's followers. And if you read enough about the aims of it's proponents of this political frankenstein, you won't find much that is liberal about it.

Don't take my word on it, look it up: COMMUNITARIANISM. In the next few years you'll be hearing the word community threaded into most political speeches, well it is already. Obama is steeped in it and his speeches are full of Communitarians references. The EU runs according to it's tenets and develops its laws according to its doctrines. Communitarianism is the only game in town right now.

http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/communitarian/third_way.htm

decim
27-10-2009, 11:37 PM
E lights top middle left right ...psychopathy...=

Nine Inch Nails - Capital G [Unofficial Music Video] - YouTube

decim
27-10-2009, 11:39 PM
The papers are mere organs of Meye5 & the 'establishment', they are riven with agents.

Did anyone notice the name of the columnist who revealed this info? - Andrew Neather.
He works for the LES.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-home/columnistarchive/Andrew%20Neather-columnist-502-archive.do

Now scroll down to the bottom and guess which paper is linked?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

^

So this guy writes speeches for our leaders, then afterwards boasts about it and a sister paper spills the beans!

The same reporter for the mail also penned this article- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1211620/MELANIE-PHILLIPS.html

Does anyone see a bloody pattern here?

lightgiver
27-10-2009, 11:52 PM
'Dishonest' Blair and Straw accused over secret plan for multicultural UK
2009 10 26
Jack Straw and Tony Blair 'dishonestly' concealed a plan to allow in more immigrants and make Britain more multi-cultural because they feared a public backlash if it was made public, it has been claimed. The allegation was made after a former Labour adviser said the Government opened up UK borders partly to humiliate Right-wing opponents of immigration. Andrew Neather, who ...
http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=3054

decim
28-10-2009, 12:06 AM
The vatican, zionist alliance, a pact made in hell..

'Dishonest' Blair and Straw accused over secret plan for multicultural UK
2009 10 26
Jack Straw and Tony Blair 'dishonestly' concealed a plan to allow in more immigrants and make Britain more multi-cultural
http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=3054

soleil
28-10-2009, 09:35 AM
Barry Smith was talking about this in the 80's...it isn't just this country it's worldwide.


That's a name that rings a bell. Barry Smith was my first exposure to 'conspiracy theories/ facts'. His VHS tapes did the rounds in my school.

amaralsright
28-10-2009, 09:53 AM
Did anyone notice the name of the columnist who revealed this info? - Andrew Neather.
He works for the LES.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-home/columnistarchive/Andrew%20Neather-columnist-502-archive.do

Now scroll down to the bottom and guess which paper is linked?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

^

So this guy writes speeches for our leaders, then afterwards boasts about it and a sister paper spills the beans!

The same reporter for the mail also penned this article- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1211620/MELANIE-PHILLIPS.html

Does anyone see a bloody pattern here?

I do wonder why the beans are being spilled and the MSM is happy to tell us.

It means they want us to know this. This is win-win for them.

All part of the deliberate attempt to light the race fires.

Which puts me in the Catch 22 situtation because I think we actually do need to address the immigration issue.

soleil
28-10-2009, 09:54 AM
Call me cynical but I don't trust Phillips whose disfavour of multiculturalism seems to be only due to the amount of immigration from lands where her tribe's treatment of Palestinians is condemned.

She apparently said that Palestinian resistance is "Holocaust denial as a national project".

amaralsright
28-10-2009, 09:57 AM
Communitarianism is the only game in town right now.

http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/communitarian/third_way.htm

"Communitarianism, as a group of related but distinct philosophies, began in the late 20th century, opposing exalted forms of individualism while advocating phenomena such as civil society. Not necessarily hostile to social liberalism or even social democracy, communitarianism emphasizes the need to balance individual rights and interests with that of the community as a whole, and that individual people (or citizens) are shaped by the cultures and values of their communities."

We the sheeple.

You might have a point here.

icarus
28-10-2009, 10:00 AM
Melanie Phillips!

That bitch has done quite a bit herself to undermine and sell out this country. Fucking bitch loves Israel for a start. As for her writing about the Blair creature, some of us have been saying this for years. Where were twats like her until it was shoved into their pig ignorant faces.

This is diversion from the fact that filth like Jack Straw, Peter Mandelson, the Millibands etc are still doing this to this day. Let's see the old crow take on those heavyweights, not to mention the legion of lesser operators like Speaker of the House Bercow and all the money men behind them.

jiffy
28-10-2009, 06:45 PM
Neo-liberalism??? Blair, as was Clinton, was a follower of Amitai Etzioni's Third Way, or as it should now be known to all--Communitarinism. It's feted as being the synthesis of Capitalism and Socialism, a public-private partnership; a completely novel world view, transcendent of politics. Almost a religion to it's followers. And if you read enough about the aims of it's proponents of this political frankenstein, you won't find much that is liberal about it.

Don't take my word on it, look it up: COMMUNITARIANISM. In the next few years you'll be hearing the word community threaded into most political speeches, well it is already. Obama is steeped in it and his speeches are full of Communitarians references. The EU runs according to it's tenets and develops its laws according to its doctrines. Communitarianism is the only game in town right now.

http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/communitarian/third_way.htm

Whilst I wouldn't say that the political path my change, you could never of called Blair or Clinton's economic or Social policy Communitarianism.

The main economic ideology of Neo-Liberalism is make the rich very rich and the wealth will trickle down. Let big business look after the worker, not the state...... abolish state ownage in all key areas. ring any bells?

The main Social in-pack of Neo-Liberalism was as Thatcher put it "there no such thing as Society". Only "I" .
If you cant see extreme Neo-Liberalism in the world today then I would guess you don't understand what its ideology is.

goldenbear
28-10-2009, 07:08 PM
im just going to vote monster ravin loony party.

im sure they have gota be better than this lot.

anyone got any ideas.?

free thinker
28-10-2009, 08:07 PM
im just going to vote monster ravin loony party.

im sure they have gota be better than this lot.

anyone got any ideas.?

Whoever you vote for other than the "3 stoogies" will send the message they need to hear..:;)

mightyoak
28-10-2009, 08:36 PM
Would seem the Labzi party policy makers will have alot to answer for after their downfall i expect ..
Oh but i forget ! The biggest lying cheating traitor these British island as ever known B-liar Will be sat on his throne in Brussels protecting his cohorts in the deception.Infact proberbly rewarding there loyalty with nice cushy and lucrative jobs in the new EUssr .....

breezinreezin
28-10-2009, 08:55 PM
Whilst I wouldn't say that the political path my change, you could never of called Blair or Clinton's economic or Social policy Communitarianism.

The main economic ideology of Neo-Liberalism is make the rich very rich and the wealth will trickle down. Let big business look after the worker, not the state...... abolish state ownage in all key areas. ring any bells?

The main Social in-pack of Neo-Liberalism was as Thatcher put it "there no such thing as Society". Only "I" .
If you cant see extreme Neo-Liberalism in the world today then I would guess you don't understand what its ideology is.

Your comments indicate you don't seem to understand Communitarianism very well then. Blair and Clinton are staunch Communitarians, if you knew what to look for, you'd see it. Blair and Clinton were both advocates of Third Way politics, though Clinton didn't go anywhere near as far as Blair in pushing through Communitarian inspired policies, but that's because Blair was working with the Communitarian EU watching his back, not so Clinton. Obama, on the other hand, is not at all shy of laying his communitarian cards on the table.

"Starting with Bill Clinton's Presidential campaign in 1992, Third Way thinking is reshaping progressive politics throughout the world. Inspired by the example of Clinton and the New Democrats, Tony Blair in Britain led a revitalized New Labour (http://www.labour.org.uk/) party back to power in 1997. The victory of Gerhard Shroeder and the Social Democrats (http://spd.de/english/index.htm) in Germany the next year confirmed the revival of center-left parties which either control or are part of the governing coalition forming throughout the European Union. From Latin America to Australia and New Zealand, Third Way ideas also are taking hold."

http://www.ppionline.org/ppi_ci.cfm?knlgAreaID=85&subsecID=109&contentID=895

"Yet consider what this much-maligned public philosophy has actually achieved. In the US, the Third Way not only gave us Bill Clinton but also bit George W Bush so hard in the tail that he may yet disappoint his so-far dominant right wing. Having lost control of the Senate after only four months in office, Bush may be forced to move closer to the centre from which he campaigned rather than from where he has governed so far. In Britain, it has given Labour an unprecedented second full term in power. In Germany, soon after Tony Blair spoon-fed it to the reluctant Gerhard Schroeder, the Third Way (or "new middle") brought another previously failing left party to power; now, the SPD seems poised for an even stronger second term. Third Way thinking is a major force in the Dutch miracle and it is a road from which Scandinavian parties benefit whenever they can find it. Yes, I know that the Italians veered to the right, but they were never quite centred; previously they were somewhere off in left field."

http://www.gwu.edu/~ccps/etzioni/B354.html (http://www.gwu.edu/%7Eccps/etzioni/B354.html)

mightyoak
28-10-2009, 08:57 PM
Revealed: What Tony Blair Did not Want the Public to Read about Immigration

http://bnp.org.uk/2009/10/revealed-what-tony-blair-did-not-want-the-public-to-read-about-immigration/


They might be racist to some But they know who the liars and traitors are..The mood off ordinary betrayed British aboriginals should be heeded for once