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alrick888
27-10-2009, 05:26 PM
Nothing Will Ever Change
Therefore it doesn't really matter
What we do
Or do not do
The elite have been in power since time immemorial
During that time there have been countless prophets,
Rebels, and reformers
Nothing has ever changed for long
Everything always goes back to the way it is
People will not wake up
The programming is ingrained
Too deep in the DNA
Besides, what is Truth?
What if there was no Truth
Just a lot of different points of view?
That's what people believe anyhow
No matter how many posts you post,
Or DVDs you copy,
The status quo is the status quo
What is, is
What isn't, isn't
This was planned to be so long before our time
those in power like it just the way it is
only the disempowered want to see change
but have no means to bring it about
Don't be an Obaama truther
Believing in a Change that will never come....
SNAFU
pok3r72
27-10-2009, 11:13 PM
thats what im saying :
It was never our job to change it - only to survive
Greetings
hollo
28-10-2009, 02:51 AM
how it will change....
1st majority see whats going on and want change
(change can only happen when majority conciously think it)
2nd sea of energy will change and karma will come a lot quicker than before
hatred and manipulation wont be able to survive this
how i see things :)
lobuk
28-10-2009, 03:01 AM
how it will change....
1st majority see whats going on and want change
(change can only happen when majority conciously think it)
2nd sea of energy will change and karma will come a lot quicker than before
hatred and manipulation wont be able to survive this
how i see things :)
Well said Hollo.
Thats how i see it too.
pinkgeranium
28-10-2009, 03:19 AM
What if people don't want change...?
Most people say they want freedom from the state,
but that woukd mean being completly self suficient.
No more victim, only the survival of the fittest.......it would be great to
imagin that people would work together and build little communitys.
Some would, But many wouldn't be able to cope.
Someone would allways want to be leader.....groups would brake off and
then they would think their way was better than some other group....
And round and round it goes 6000 years later.......and we are back to
square one.
azureangel
28-10-2009, 03:55 AM
Therefore what you say is true for you. In this realm of reality it is possible that "nothing will change" for a long time. However, there are other realities being created all the time. By humans. So if you don't like this reality, start to think about the reality you'd like to be in. Your higher self has already chosen it, and I like to think that many of us who post on this forum do not want to stay in the current reality zone. Think, and daydream, and when you see what you really want, it will bring you to tears. Then just focus on that, and when the time is right, you'll be there. Love, angel ;)
delamo1999
28-10-2009, 07:24 AM
What if people don't want change...?
Most people say they want freedom from the state,
but that woukd mean being completly self suficient.
No more victim, only the survival of the fittest.......it would be great to
imagin that people would work together and build little communitys.
Some would, But many wouldn't be able to cope.
Someone would allways want to be leader.....groups would brake off and
then they would think their way was better than some other group....
And round and round it goes 6000 years later.......and we are back to
square one.
Yeah I hear people talk about how they want to be free and make a difference in the world. Then these same people get a job for a company like Hallibertan because the bennies are good along with a nice fat paycheck. These same people have no idea that the companies that they work for are actually not working for the good of anyone except profits for the illuminati. But these people now feel that they have really come along because they have a good job and can now financially live up to the set standards that society has pushed in front of them. But the question is: Are these people trully happy from the inside?
size_of_light
28-10-2009, 08:41 AM
It's always changing.
Things will not change. We assume everyone is like us, but the truth is that, those who are comfortable with their lives or even having it good, now why should they want any change? The most they pay is lip service.
Even if they can see that everything is being controlled by a system and this life is mostly an illusion.
The only ones who push hard for change are the "have nots" and those who never did "adjust" well, or fit in....These though, are not the majority, and never were.
pinkgeranium
28-10-2009, 05:50 PM
Things will not change. We assume everyone is like us, but the truth is that, those who are comfortable with their lives or even having it good, now why should they want any change? The most they pay is lip service.
Even if they can see that everything is being controlled by a system and this life is mostly an illusion.
The only ones who push hard for change are the "have nots" and those who never did "adjust" well, or fit in....These though, are not the majority, and never were.
That is very true.
Maybe we are "awake" because we are the only one that have something to
learn?
What if all the sheeple, are higher souls that have volunteered to
come here to play a part in OUR learning a khamic lesson.....................and not the other way round?
Maybe the ones who think they are awake are infact in the DEEPEST sleep...?
Myself included.......:confused:
It's always changing.
The only constant in life is change.
How can anyone say that nothing will ever change? I mean fuck, things have changed a hell of a lot in the 30 years I have been here, some see it as possitive change, others see it as negative.
Sure no individual seems to have the power to change the world but we all have the power to change ourselves.
A line in a good songs says......."if we all did a little then alot would get done"
I'm not really worried about the outside world so much as I am worried about my inside world. The ego seems to be fighting hard these days, and I find it easy to get angry and depressed, wich results in the manifestation of challenges I could avoid.
darketernal
28-10-2009, 06:29 PM
Alrick I rather enjoyed your poem. There is much truth in it when you speak of the program being ingrained in the human genome... of it having always been this way for humanity. I too at times fear that we've made no progress at all in freedom as there have been countless rebels and free thinkers throughout the ages and the status quo is maintained.
However the same DNA which has been used to enslave and limit the physical mind, is next to the DNA which vibrates at a frequincy that draws the power and consciousness to us that humanity have been harvested for. Something inside tells me that there is still hope.
darketernal,
I have noticed a few times you refer to human always being controled. How exactly do you know this?
In another post you wrote that we have been controlled for a thousand or even ten thousand years. Is this how long you think we have been here?
cosmicswing
28-10-2009, 07:40 PM
Yeah, hope springs eternal for me to, despite my fears.
There are so many layers to "reality", and that goes for it's history too. If we compare our current events to old histories for speculation of outcomes, then a rather depressing picture can be painted.
Focussing on the major differences between contempory and older times, however, is what gets my juices flowing. They are the beacons of hope that weren't around before, or at least for a very long time. Free energy and other suppressed technological paradigm changers that are breaking through into the mainstream, spark serious hope. As does all the Mayan, Eyptian, Nostradamus, Timeline Zero, Yugas etc cyclical prophecies and philosophies when viewed through a positive lens. Benevolent alien disclosure is another hope. The incredible communication and networking tool - THE INTERNET, more people aware of the worldly monumental deceits now, than ever before in the recorded history of our sad past. Also the breakthroughs/mergings in science and spirituality.
And if all that fails, well it's just a ride I guess, a pretty shit one, although it could be a worse, but a ride never the less.
Chin up. :)
darketernal
28-10-2009, 07:43 PM
darketernal,
I have noticed a few times you refer to human always being controled. How exactly do you know this?
In another post you wrote that we have been controlled for a thousand or even ten thousand years. Is this how long you think we have been here?
Tens of thousands of years? Oh yes very much so. Because it is not recorded in history books does not mean we've not had thriving civilizations of fairly advanced technology before written history.
To understand the full nature of the control requires one to have a full understanding of who humans are, their origins, the how and why of the physical existence of the species here on this planet. That isn't something I want to address in the open forum just yet, nor is it something I can say my understanding of is comlete.
By controlled I mean it is part of the genetic program inheriant to humanity, which is a product of ancient genetic engineering, that limits the thought processes and access to the full mental capacity of the human mind. This is combined with social and cultural programing that limits the human mind further, and defines for us a sense of reality that is very different from the truth of things.
This is why I personally place minimal value in fighting against political agendas a my primary objective. Since the societies upon which these political agendas have been based, as well as the limitations of the human mind, are artificial systems of control, I see any agenda removed on that level as a changing of hands. Another will simply take its place, just as it has always been.
Freedom must come by a fundimental changing of "human nature" on a large scale, in which the species collectively throws off the shackles placed upon it, and recreates society within their own collective imagination. That type of change only happens from within.
I was sort of hinting at the fact that nobody really seems to know. What I feel is we have been here much, much longer, and it's possible there was harmony here on this planet.
cosmicswing
28-10-2009, 07:58 PM
I was sort of hinting at the fact that nobody really seems to know. What I feel is we have been here much, much longer, and it's possible there was harmony here on this planet.
............and hopefully will again..........soon would be nice
alrick888
28-10-2009, 08:53 PM
The reason I wrote the poem was not to demoralize people but because I feel large parts of the truth movement are now mirroring The Secret and the wishful thinking that it promotes.
Just focus on it hard enough and it will manifest.....yeah, or maybe not!
It's like what David Icke says, if it is not part of your karmic lesson here to be rich you will not be rich. Is it part of our karmic lesson as a people to experience this state of freedom here on earth? I don't know.
And I just can't rhyme these two phenomena appearing now concurrently, on the one hand the ever increasing amount of information online and the ever increasing control and dumbing-down on the other hand.
pinkgeranium
29-10-2009, 09:35 AM
That is a realy good point, The more people "Wake up" the more the PTB are
introducing control.
Abraham Hicks says " We create that which we focus on the most"
Maybe thats why sites like this are not closed down........Us focusing
on all this stuff..............is acually helping it to manifest.....:(
The thing is The Secret missed out the Abraham Hicks stuff, which is the main
thing it was ment to be based on. Apparently the channelers of AH did not
want the makers of the secret to SELL it on DVD, they wanted it shown on TV......so that a far bigger range of people would see it.
If you haven't seen any Abramham Hicks stuff, have a look on you tube.
I am normally very weary of "Channeled" stuff, but his/her stuff is so funny and incredably practical and helpfull.
That is a realy good point, The more people "Wake up" the more the PTB are
introducing control.
Abraham Hicks says " We create that which we focus on the most"
Maybe thats why sites like this are not closed down........Us focusing
on all this stuff..............is acually helping it to manifest.....:(
I don't know what you mean by "manifest," but I would think had this forum been around before 9/11, and there had been all the hoopla about it, people predicting it openly.....the event would have probably gotten delayed or never happen at all.
So maybe there might some painful events that could actually hasten a more widespread "awakening," but they get delayed or never manifest, because there are those who say, "I won't let that manifest in my reality"...
But the end result is probably is - Prolonging the status quo and state of affairs.
We need to question if we are going about this the right way or not....
You see, the PTB know that we know about them. We are dealing with EXTREMELY intelligent and slimy beings, and they use whatever situation to their advantage, they know the power of duality, and there are always 2 sides to the coin.....and they are still in charge, regardless of whether anyone thinks they are making mistakes, or they are going down.....but you know, I don't think so.
That's why we have movies and books now coming out about 2012, actually many "unawakened people" out there, they heard about 2012 already....and I cannot help thinking they (the PTB) are laughing all the way to the bank, and how foolish they regard "us." Celebrities coming out to denounce 9/11...but in actual fact, "who" brought these celebrities up?
2012 has became like an armchair spectacle, I have to say...
I wonder whether anyone ever thought of it this way.
justin_pushka
29-10-2009, 11:03 AM
Nothing Will Ever Change
Therefore it doesn't really matter
What we do
Or do not do
The elite have been in power since time immemorial
During that time there have been countless prophets,
Rebels, and reformers
Nothing has ever changed for long
Everything always goes back to the way it is
People will not wake up
The programming is ingrained
Too deep in the DNA
Besides, what is Truth?
What if there was no Truth
Just a lot of different points of view?
That's what people believe anyhow
No matter how many posts you post,
Or DVDs you copy,
The status quo is the status quo
What is, is
What isn't, isn't
This was planned to be so long before our time
those in power like it just the way it is
only the disempowered want to see change
but have no means to bring it about
Don't be an Obaama truther
Believing in a Change that will never come....
SNAFU
Happiness is here!!! lol. Wow what a party pooper you are. Look ill tell you something that i dont tell many. I used to be a member of the Church of Satan. No i didnt eat babies or anything like that but i used to be really mind controled and do rituals to climb the greasy poll. Then something happened. I realised i was totally duped, i can now sence the differing energies rather than intellectually postulate about them. I see auras Im aware that i have a light body that is existing simultainious with 3d. In fact it freaks me out with joy that its real, infact i cant believe how close the artist alex grey grets to showing in art what this energy system looks like. Ive felt the sensation of joy as my heart chakra awakened. I know david icke is pretty much telling the truth as ive experienced similar. If i can wake up out of "corporate make yourself an empire and worship the lightbringing rebel" ive got high hopes for humanity and am doing every single thing i can in my power to stop what is happening. Your gona see alot of satanists wake up pretty soon too as most of them will realise this world 500,000 doesnt include them neccessarily either. Your basing your premise that its pointless on your own state of mind. Why dont you raise you vibration a little and chip in as what your doing is helping hold back the shift which wont work but will only manifest in personal pain. As far as karma goes weve dredged the depths and weve been held back against our will from being able to wake up. It was against the laws of free will. That is why at the point of absolute tyrany mankind will awaken with absolut wonder. Were just not there yet there are many people who are just learning the game. remember though that humans dont like to suffer in extreems and when total tyrany arrives you will see some quiet people emerge as brave lions. Try to be positive. There are so many here to help with the shift and try as they might nothing will prevent it and it will be the biggest unvieling. there is hope if you can open to it thats the secret. I wish you the best journey you can have.