UK tap warer....

[dark86]

err, i mean water.

ok, for the past 8 months i have been out of the UK drinking bottled mineral water.

this week i returned to the UK and drank tap water (something i used to do for years and years) ...it tasted disgusting (sussex and dorset tap water)....sheesh!! to think millions of ppl drink this daily in tea/squashes(yuk) and in other forms fills me with dread.

it tasted so artificial its untrue.

from now on anytime i am in the UK its no tap water for me, i advice you all to do the same, or if sceptical do a few weeks on mineral and then try some "uk tap".
:eek:

[cleft_asunder]

It's not just about people drinking the water. You water the plants with it too. I mean these fuckers hate us, and they hate everything. They hate everything! Isn't that fucking amazing? They want to destroy vegetation and replace it with desert. Have you noticed the unusually large receipts they give us in the US lately? They are like 10 inches long at least!

[eternal_spirit]

Could be the added flouride, although here in Lancashire they haven't added it to ours, not where I am anyhow. Ours taste fine. I don't use a purifer/filter my family do. Maybe that would make a difference. The resovouirs just across the field from me, so maybe it's nice and fresh.

[brotherapostate]

Well, I have had problems with tap water. Ever wonder why the dentist tells you to come back every 6 months? Thats because by that time, the fluoride would have decayed away your teeth so much you will be begging for a dentist.

I had a fling once with a dental nurse, who told me that dentists use toothpaste WITHOUT fluoride (ever wondered why it's so expensive?) and they only ever brush once a day at night, being sure to chew mint leaves each day.

Do the maths.

[truthseeker1980]

The tap water where i live often smells of bleach and tastes awful, i still drink it over the bottled water though.

You are better off drinking the tap water rather than bottled water, bottled water has far more chemicals in compared to tap water. I know this from when i worked at Aquatech rainsoft a company who make reverse osmosis machines.

The sales reps ptich used to be tests on normal tap water and bottled water. The bottled water in ever single test was absolutley full of chemicals, where as the tap water wouldn't show up nearly half as much.

So the moral of the story is DONT BUY BOTTLED WATER, tap water is far safer, as long as it's not been flouridated that is.

[_invisibleplane_]

yep tap water sure is the shit, and it is damn intentional, all our plants are filled with fluoride and all the rest...then when you try talking to dentist and water treatment officials all they cite is their bs fluoride research sponsored by aluminum corporations(who pay them to dispose of their industrial waste by product fluoride), its a damn joke..

thats why I'm getting a water filter..I can't afford the expensive reverse osmosis, but this one still seems to be quite effective

http://www.purewateressentials.com/ct-00133.html

[chromeranger]

Does anyone have info on the flouride situation in London tap water?
I'm pretty sure it is flouridated, but can't find any solid evidence of whats in tap water here on the net.
I use Brita filter's for all cooking and drinking water, but they are more of a water softener rather than filtering out heavy metals and flouride/chlorine.
Also using a water vortex energiser(after filtering), however it makes little difference due to the memory effect of recycled sewage of urban water..

[chromeranger]

Good info on fluoride here

http://www.fluoridealert.org/

Thinking of investing in one of these;

http://www.healthy-house.co.uk/products/gravity_water_filter.php

[magicmerlin]

I've been drinking purified alkaline water for a couple of years now - and as you say, when I have to resort to tap water it is disgusting (in Kent, UK anyway), but unfortunately unless you make a real transition to clean water, it doesn't seem bad - hence why most people can drink it. I haven't been to a dentist in years, although i drink loads of green tea so that may protect me.

[pri01]

I think information about what is in tap water is freely available from all water authorities. I don't drink tap water but I do use it to make tea. Is it safe to drink when boiled?

[pleasuredome]

The tap water where i live often smells of bleach and tastes awful, i still drink it over the bottled water though.

You are better off drinking the tap water rather than bottled water, bottled water has far more chemicals in compared to tap water. I know this from when i worked at Aquatech rainsoft a company who make reverse osmosis machines.

The sales reps ptich used to be tests on normal tap water and bottled water. The bottled water in ever single test was absolutley full of chemicals, where as the tap water wouldn't show up nearly half as much.

So the moral of the story is DONT BUY BOTTLED WATER, tap water is far safer, as long as it's not been flouridated that is.

our tap water smells of chlorine also. ive noticed this within the past year or so. i filter the tap water now. when i next get a bottle of water i'll do a ppm test and compare it with tapwater.

[resevaz]

This is an issue that has been troubling me lately. I drink water straight from the tap, sometimes purified, and I sometimes drink bottled mineral water. The latter wins in terms of taste and cleanliness for me. At the same time I dislike having to shell out for something that should free to all -clean and healthy drinking water.

As for fluoride and toothpaste, since switching from the big brand toothpaste to a natural/organic fluoride-free one my oral health has certainly improved.

[kweli]

our tap water smells of chlorine also. ive noticed this within the past year or so. i filter the tap water now. when i next get a bottle of water i'll do a ppm test and compare it with tapwater.

I'd be extremely interested in your findings pleasuredome. :)

The weird thing for me is: I have virtually no sense of smell of taste, yet I can taste, smell, the differences in our water supply, to that that I grew up with.

[on the road]

I think information about what is in tap water is freely available from all water authorities. I don't drink tap water but I do use it to make tea. Is it safe to drink when boiled?

yes phone your local water people up and they will tell you if you have flouride in your water.I did and the guy told me that three places have it ,whitehaven in cumbria is one of them.

[on the road]

I'd be extremely interested in your findings pleasuredome. :)

The weird thing for me is: I have virtually no sense of smell of taste, yet I can taste, smell, the differences in our water supply, to that that I grew up with.

I phoned them up about the chem/water they were feeding my family and they told me offwat tells them to put chlorine to kill germs .It might be that .

[nuit]

a lot of the water pipes are still the old lead ones and the water authorities just do not seem to be replacing them fast enough.I will stick with fruit flavoured water i think

[chromeranger]

I think information about what is in tap water is freely available from all water authorities. I don't drink tap water but I do use it to make tea. Is it safe to drink when boiled?

I'll try calling Thames Water tomorrow..
Boiling will reduce the amount of harmful bacteria if any and erases the 'memory' of the water, however it also increases the concentration of fluoride in the water.
Ever noticed you get a thin film of 'oil' on top of your hot cuppa(without milk)? Thats all the chemicals in the water floating to the top.

[_invisibleplane_]

.I will stick with fruit flavoured water i think

I hope you do not mean artificially flavoured water because that is full of aspartame/ ace-sulfame and that is just as bad

Overall, yeah I used to only drink bottled water because of the digusting tap water here in Toronto. But the cost really starts to add up, not to mention the pollution of the plastic (of course no one has promoted biodegradable water bottles)...

I was very conscious of the fluoride, chlorine and all the other crap in our water supply, I took it up with public health officials, and of course they give you all the bs propoganda about fluoride being beneficial and completely ignore the thought of removing the chemicals

Anyways, I ended up buying a crystalquest water filter, was one of the cheapest ones out there that still manages to be very effective, for those interested in getting a water filter, make sure it removes fluoride effectively, the filters you see in your supermarkets such as brita do nothing against fluoride.

[nuit]

I hope you do not mean artificially flavoured water because that is full of aspartame/ ace-sulfame and that is just as bad


possibly, but at least it has no lead content in it

[on the road]

If you grew up in the 70's ,like if you were a baby in the 70's -you would of ate shit loads of lead .it was all over the place.ive ate loads of chems and im ok ......i think

[_invisibleplane_]

possibly, but at least it has no lead content in it

possibly what? aspartame/acesulfame IS undoubtly toxic and harmful, and that ingredient is either in it or not, so I don't understand what you mean by possibly...that's good that its lead free, but I would say eliminating one problem while adding another is kind of a sideways step more than an improvement..so I would seriously consider re-evaluating favouring artificial flavoured water..my best suggestion would be that you could just drink natural fruit juice that has water in it?

[danucrom]

Drinking bottled water is just as bad as drinking tap water, all sorts of nasty stuff leaches from the plastic into the water and why anyone would even want to pay for water is beyond me... If you live in Ireland or the UK chances are that you are not too far away from a natural spring or ancient/holy wells, find out, and get all your drinking water from there.

http://www.irishcultureandcustoms.com/ALandmks/HolyWells.html

http://nwi.skyphos.co.uk/phpbb/

[thirdwave]

when I buy bottled water it has a use by date on it!!

since when does water go off???

[baron von lotsov]

The tap water where i live often smells of bleach and tastes awful, i still drink it over the bottled water though.

You are better off drinking the tap water rather than bottled water, bottled water has far more chemicals in compared to tap water. I know this from when i worked at Aquatech rainsoft a company who make reverse osmosis machines.

The sales reps ptich used to be tests on normal tap water and bottled water. The bottled water in ever single test was absolutley full of chemicals, where as the tap water wouldn't show up nearly half as much.

So the moral of the story is DONT BUY BOTTLED WATER, tap water is far safer, as long as it's not been flouridated that is.


Mineral water has floride in it as well as minerals e.g. uranium 235/238!

[danucrom]

when I buy bottled water it has a use by date on it!!

since when does water go off???

I hope you dont drink too much bottled water, it could make you sterile.

http://www.sunmt.org/bottledwaterblues.html

http://www.thegreenguide.com/doc/98/bottle

[thirdwave]

I hope you dont drink too much bottled water, it could make you sterile.

http://www.sunmt.org/bottledwaterblues.html

http://www.thegreenguide.com/doc/98/bottle


I have no choice.... I cant trust tap water any more as they just chuck all kinds of shit in there...

I guess I could try glass bottled Water.... where I live there is not much choice....

I take Kelp and Monotomic Gold....to level things out...

[pri01]

when I buy bottled water it has a use by date on it!!

since when does water go off???

Hi there, I think it is because water in it's natural spring or river environment, because it's dynamic, it moves and therefore isn't still enough to allow impurities to thrive. Once it's captured and bottled, it stagnates and becomes a new ecosystem for bacteria and other organisms to grow. If you notice, there are warnings on drinking water fonts to ensure that water is kept at a minimum temperature. This is because, the bacteria that thrive in water need a warmish environment to grow.

[chromeranger]

eek. I didn't know Nalgene bottles were made from polycarbonate.
I always took one with me when I go camping in the summer months. And sure enough I just looked at the bottom and it has a stamp PC with no.7

Good links Danucrom!!

[thirdwave]

Hi there, I think it is because water in it's natural spring or river environment, because it's dynamic, it moves and therefore isn't still enough to allow impurities to thrive. Once it's captured and bottled, it stagnates and becomes a new ecosystem for bacteria and other organisms to grow. If you notice, there are warnings on drinking water fonts to ensure that water is kept at a minimum temperature. This is because, the bacteria that thrive in water need a warmish environment to grow.

ahhh ok, thanks for that.

[mindsplinter]

The most efficient water filter for removing flouride, 60% of the usa is flouridated, is a reverse osmosis filter. Here they cost about 200$ and need to be installed. There is also an really good filter called the Berkey. Its portable and also takes out flouride and pathogens. I don't ever drink tap or bottled water. I also never get sick, yet.

[baron von lotsov]

That is true. Little bits of sheep shit provde a good home for a colony of bacteria and they multiply exponentially until the food supply runs out. What you need is a reverse osmosis filter and you can make your own H20 out of tap water.

[danucrom]

eek. I didn't know Nalgene bottles were made from polycarbonate.
I always took one with me when I go camping in the summer months. And sure enough I just looked at the bottom and it has a stamp PC with no.7

Good links Danucrom!!

Throw it out!, I use a ww2 british canteen.

http://www.armynavysales.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/ME204_lg.gif

You can usually get them for around £10-20 on ebay, they are made of steel so they are safe to drink from.

[chromeranger]

Throw it out!, I use a ww2 british canteen.


Nice one, I'll check it out. I take it the modern issue canteen's are all plastic too..

[danucrom]

I take it the modern issue canteen's are all plastic too..

I think so, if not plastic then aluminium.

[malvern]

very lucky mines malvern spring water..... only problem coke own local sping water bottling company and aresteeling the local .. comman water... and calling it thiers.. bottle water in london cost more than petrol....we need clean fresh water thats why they privatetised the waterboard .. polulted local rivers and res, more leaks, bloked, broken and leaking drains, all so that the once clean water to your door is no more than secondhand piss full of chemicals.... own your own WELL is the answer..



freedom belongs to the grandchildren, you are the caretaker

[21_12_2012]

I bought a water distiller a few months ago for £200.
It's definately the best thing I've bought this year.
It gets rid of 99.9% of all contaminants including metals, chemicals, and
also bacteria (due to the fact that it is boiled , and the steam is filtered and
dripped out into a sterile container)

The water tastes unreal, and feels very 'dense' and refreshing.

I won't drink anything else now.

[mindsplinter]

I bought a water distiller a few months ago for £200.
It's definately the best thing I've bought this year.
It gets rid of 99.9% of all contaminants including metals, chemicals, and
also bacteria (due to the fact that it is boiled , and the steam is filtered and
dripped out into a sterile container)

The water tastes unreal, and feels very 'dense' and refreshing.

I won't drink anything else now.

Distilled is good, but in Florida usa, they have volatile chemicals that evaporate at a temperature below 100C. So you can't get rid of them. Also distillers take energy, as in electricity, and you have to hope that's always around. Distilled water is good for the stuff in Chemtrails as it leaches it out of your body with minerals. No matter what don't drink the tap water.

[danucrom]

very lucky mines malvern spring water..... only problem coke own local sping water bottling company and aresteeling the local .. comman water... and calling it thiers.. bottle water in london cost more than petrol....we need clean fresh water thats why they privatetised the waterboard .. polulted local rivers and res, more leaks, bloked, broken and leaking drains, all so that the once clean water to your door is no more than secondhand piss full of chemicals.... own your own WELL is the answer..



freedom belongs to the grandchildren, you are the caretaker

Myself and my man slave are lucky enough to live in a rural area and have our own well water. Its crystal clear and ice cold year round.

[revolutionary_jam]

ok, for the past 8 months i have been out of the UK drinking bottled mineral water.

Please don't, much of it comes from taps anyway and it's an environmental disaster

get a water filter jug off ebay or something and bobs your auntie (in my experience Kenwood is a good brand)

[malvern]

Myself and my man slave are lucky enough to live in a rural area and have our own well water. Its crystal clear and ice cold year round.

dam right, my last house has a sping and a well, crystal clear and ice cold, this one has a well fed by a sping.... every time i go into a city you can taste the crap in the water and feel the buzz of all them blue tooth and airwave outputs...


freedom is ownedand mine is not for sale

[mahabaratara]

I bought a water distiller a few months ago for £200.
It's definately the best thing I've bought this year.
It gets rid of 99.9% of all contaminants including metals, chemicals, and
also bacteria (due to the fact that it is boiled , and the steam is filtered and
dripped out into a sterile container)

The water tastes unreal, and feels very 'dense' and refreshing.

I won't drink anything else now.

Make and Model...Please..,:)

[thirdwave]

Please don't, much of it comes from taps anyway and it's an environmental disaster

get a water filter jug off ebay or something and bobs your auntie (in my experience Kenwood is a good brand)


when people talk about getting a filter... you mean a filter so you can drink tap water... or a filter to put your bottled mineral water in when you buy it?

[21_12_2012]

Make and Model...Please..,:)

I'm not sure of the make, but the model is a Genie Mark 2.

You can buy them for less than I paid (as i found out after buying mine!)

[chromeranger]

Speaking of chemtrails, could using orgonite on the water mains be a viable alternative to elaborate methods of filtration mentioned here (if not enhancing those methods of filtration) for those of us who aren't lucky enough to be near a good, unpolluted well?

Do any of you actually use orgonite energy to neutralise tap water and what is the experience?

Maybe its time to get a water powered car. I don't even have a drivers licence yet...

[mahabaratara]

I'm not sure of the make, but the model is a Genie Mark 2.

You can buy them for less than I paid (as i found out after buying mine!)

Thank You...

[21_12_2012]

Thank You...

You're welcome.

I have seen a few popping up on ebay quite cheap since i bought mine too.

[thirdwave]

You're welcome.

I have seen a few popping up on ebay quite cheap since i bought mine too.

does it get rid of the fluoride ?

[chromeranger]

or a filter to put your bottled mineral water in when you buy it?


ehh?

[thirdwave]

ehh?

I mean with some of the filters people are talking about... are they just putting tap water through them.... or are they still buying bottled water but putting it through their filters...

[21_12_2012]

does it get rid of the fluoride ?

Yes. The one i have claims to get rid of 99.9 % of all contaminants
including chemicals (fluoride, chlorine, all chemicals)
Plus heavy metals such as lead, aluminium, mercury etc.
Some websites say 99.8 %

I suppose it's as clean as water can get.

Other methods, such as reverse osmosis, don't boil the water,
so therefore there is still bacteria left, and probably other stuff.

[chromeranger]

Water treatment comparison chart

http://www.water-treatment.org.uk/water_treatment.html

Reverse osmosis seems the most economical at a quick glance,
it also has links to each method of filtration.

[chromeranger]

I mean with some of the filters people are talking about... are they just putting tap water through them.... or are they still buying bottled water but putting it through their filters...

oh, the plastic jug filters you were referred to are basically activated carbon filters. Well known brands here in the UK would be Brita, Kenwood, or Boots. Much of these filters you can find in mainstream supermarkets.
Most people that buy bottled water would drink straight from the bottle assuming it is more pure than what comes out of the tap.
Personally I don't see any point putting bottled water through these filters as the toxicity won't change.

[danielg]

I bought a water distiller a few months ago for £200.
It's definately the best thing I've bought this year.
It gets rid of 99.9% of all contaminants including metals, chemicals, and
also bacteria (due to the fact that it is boiled , and the steam is filtered and
dripped out into a sterile container)

The water tastes unreal, and feels very 'dense' and refreshing.

I won't drink anything else now.

Distilled water is dead water. Buy a gold fish and put it in a bowl of distilled water, it'll be a good lesson for you and what you are doing to your body. Distilling water gets rid of the organic minerals which conduct electricity in the water, and oxygen: makng it toxic. Your body then needs to leech the minerals from your bones to add to the water you have drunk in compensation. I have had 3 water distillers, and they have all been rubbish compared to the Jupiter Melody. Carbon filtration is much better, there are active carbon filters which take out the same levels of inorganic compounds/contaminates as distillers, but which add oxygen, calcium and do not remove essential minerals from the water, while ionising to any pH value, alkaline or acid (two taps from one machine, one pH7- one pH7+). Distillers are cheap rubbish which should be used only for industrial purposes, not for human consumption.
Stick with superor Japanese technology: Jupiter Science Alphion model, there are no distillers even close to that quality of drinkable water.
A cheapo alternative is to buy a water butt and Berky Black Carbon Filters, and filter collected rainwater.

[21_12_2012]

I got my distiller from here:-
http://www.juicersaustralia.com.au/water_distillers_australia.shtml

[danielg]

If youre in Oz, go to ionlife.info, they're excellent for water purification, even sell water quality test kits.

[chromeranger]

Stick with superor Japanese technology:

Spot on!
I was always skeptical about water distillation for human consumption after reading an article with similar facts years ago..
I'm asking for a pay rise
Jupiter Science Aquarius and Orion/ Alphion
Energized, healthy water as close as your kitchen sink! IonLife's Exclusive Direct Import Price:
US $1,495.00
but then again good water can cure all diseases, so why compromise?

[21_12_2012]

Distilled water is dead water. Buy a gold fish and put it in a bowl of distilled water, it'll be a good lesson for you and what you are doing to your body. Distilling water gets rid of the organic minerals which conduct electricity in the water, and oxygen: makng it toxic. Your body then needs to leech the minerals from your bones to add to the water you have drunk in compensation. I have had 3 water distillers, and they have all been rubbish compared to the Jupiter Melody. Carbon filtration is much better, there are active carbon filters which take out the same levels of inorganic compounds/contaminates as distillers, but which add oxygen, calcium and do not remove essential minerals from the water, while ionising to any pH value, alkaline or acid (two taps from one machine, one pH7- one pH7+). Distillers are cheap rubbish which should be used only for industrial purposes, not for human consumption.
Stick with superor Japanese technology: Jupiter Science Alphion model, there are no distillers even close to that quality of drinkable water.
A cheapo alternative is to buy a water butt and Berky Black Carbon Filters, and filter collected rainwater.

Good info.
I have been on a detox for the last few months, and distilled water has definately helped me feel a LOT better.
But, according to this report:- http://www.mercola.com/article/water/distilled_water.htm
it is not advisable long-term.

I take plenty of supplements daily (magnesium, zinc, calcium) plus other
vitamins and an organic diet, so maybe that is the best way to go if you
drink distilled water.

I definately feel better for it, but, if there are long-term effects because of
drinking distilled water, then maybe it could be a bad thing.

There appears to be conflicting information on the net about it.

[baron von lotsov]

does it get rid of the fluoride ?

If it is reverse osmosis it will, otherwise it won't. Most filters only filter out particles down to a few microns in size whereas the one I talk about does chemicals like salt, chlorine and floride. They use this type on boats, they are called water makers and are needed when crossing the Atlantic and so forth. They cost at the very least £200 and often a lot more depending on the amount of water they produce. Another point is they use up quite a bit of electricity to do this but the point being there is no easier way to remove salt from water since it is disolved into it and likewise other disolved chemicals.

[pri01]

I have a filter which came with my new fridge. It needed to be plumbed in, which I didn't know when I bought it. The water passes through and is dispensed either as water or ice depending what you select. Do any of you know anything about these built in water filters? Do they get rid of chemicals etc.?

[baron von lotsov]

I have a filter which came with my new fridge. It needed to be plumbed in, which I didn't know when I bought it. The water passes through and is dispensed either as water or ice depending what you select. Do any of you know anything about these built in water filters? Do they get rid of chemicals etc.?


It's probably a carbon filter of some description. Read my above post and that will answer your question.

[whitenight639]

possibly, but at least it has no lead content in it


thats worse than lead tho (go google aspartame and watch some vids on it, its shocking) , most rural areas have plastic pipes supplying the property, lead is banned and plumbers are not even allowed to use solder with lead in anymore. The water is tested anyway there should be safe levels of lead, however flouride and chlorine is a different story, that video on google vids about the flouride scam has an old clip of that bloke telling us that flouride is safe in 1ppm now your toothpaste seems to keep increasing in flouride content, last year im pretty sure most flouride toothpastes had upto 1000ppm nowadays the toothpastes have 1500ppm!!!!

[pleasuredome]

PPM test: -

NW Leicestershire Severn Trent tap water: 291

the above tap water filtered through Kenwood filter jug : 226

Volvic natural spring water 50cl: 134

[misscpb]

Watch the video below about tap water. It shows you how a clear glass of tapwater when experimented on with some kind of machine actually breaks it down so that people are drinking toilet paper residue and tampons that have been used yuk.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.