Alex Jones' new documentary is out.

[camreeno]

His new documentary which came out on the 22nd, Fall of the Republic: The Presidency of Barack Husein Obama is on Youtube. Check it out!

Fall of the Republic HQ full length version - YouTube

[amaralsright]

It's brilliant.

Watch it.

http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q=alex+jones&www_google_domain=www.google.co.uk&hl=en&emb=0#q=alex+jones&www_google_domain=www.google.co.uk&hl=en&emb=0&view=2&so=1&dur=3

[amaralsright]

You know what my biggest worry is?

That whichever side wins - corporates or the "awakened" - we end up with the same thing - A NEW WORLD ORDER.

Maybe the plan all along is to do it via a "mass awakening" (accompanied by wry smiles from the Elite) - after all, what you going to replace the current system with - a new world order? The current system has to be ripped down, it's corrupt, so...

Do people really think they can just go back to Founding Father principles just like that? To do that would require MASSIVE social pain destruction and upheaval.

But we must change - Catch 22.

Who you going to trust to run your new society?

Alex's film is a slick (and brilliant) production - expensive.

Alex continues to do this stuff unhindered.

That bothers me - I don't think the elite care how it happens, they have all the bases covered.

I think we're screwed.

[majorlee]

You know what my biggest worry is?

That whichever side wins - corporates or the "awakened" - we end up with the same thing - A NEW WORLD ORDER.

Maybe the plan all along is to do it via a "mass awakening" (accompanied by wry smiles from the Elite) - after all, what you going to replace the current system with - a new world order? The current system has to be ripped down, it's corrupt, so...

Do people really think they can just go back to Founding Father principles just like that? To do that would require MASSIVE social pain destruction and upheaval.

But we must change - Catch 22.

Who you going to trust to run your new society?

Alex's film is a slick (and brilliant) production - expensive.

Alex continues to do this stuff unhindered.

That bothers me - I don't think the elite care how it happens, they have all the bases covered.

I think we're screwed.


interesting and well thought out points you have

the only thing we can be certain of is change

but how the change happens i guess is upto us, but we must let the TPTB know that if they want to change for the better we will go easy on them for there mistakes, last thing we need is to make them scared of us, so then the chance of them doing something drastic or stupid against us in a final act of desperation is reduced

[amaralsright]

but we must let the TPTB know that if they want to change for the better

Now there's the rub.

What is "better"?

Better for me is an OPENLY FAIR SYSTEM - NO GOVERNMENT OR BANKING SECRETS.

But did I use the word "system"?

Does that imply a world governing body that polices openness and fairness?

Do I actually want a new world order?

Am I confused?

One thing I don't want is a political and financial elite dictating to us.

But how?

[neuronomics]

His new documentary which came out on the 22nd, Fall of the Republic: The Presidency of Barack Husein Obama is on Youtube. Check it out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VebOTc-7shU&feature=player_embedded

Alex Jones spreads hate. Informative and all.... but hateful and angry. He's gonna just get lots of people messed up. Where is the conspiracy theorist thats kind while exposing everyone? Anger doesn't solve anything. How can you be pissed at thousands of years of planning. Where's the respect?

I prefer Icke because of his past experience, and he seems humbled by the info.

[camreeno]

Alex Jones spreads hate. Informative and all.... but hateful and angry. He's gonna just get lots of people messed up. Where is the conspiracy theorist thats kind while exposing everyone? Anger doesn't solve anything. How can you be pissed at thousands of years of planning. Where's the respect?

I prefer Icke because of his past experience, and he seems humbled by the info.I understand Alex Jones is a little bit boistrous, but you can't deny the world would be better with him than without him. Jones has a lot of past experience as well so it's not like experience is exlusive David Icke or anything. After all he brought us the only video footage ever taken in Bohemian Grove and he's brought us 17 documentaries now.

[mattyb667]

Alex Jones spreads hate. Informative and all.... but hateful and angry. He's gonna just get lots of people messed up. Where is the conspiracy theorist thats kind while exposing everyone? Anger doesn't solve anything. How can you be pissed at thousands of years of planning. Where's the respect?

I prefer Icke because of his past experience, and he seems humbled by the info.

The things in this world don't make you angry? When you say Alex is just angry and hateful I say he is emotional and human. He like most of us are tired of people bowing to elite and who don't think for themselves and and is angry at what America has come to. He his human and that he shows this side of him makes me respect him more.

[picha]

Alex Jones spreads hate. Informative and all.... but hateful and angry. He's gonna just get lots of people messed up. Where is the conspiracy theorist thats kind while exposing everyone? Anger doesn't solve anything. How can you be pissed at thousands of years of planning. Where's the respect?

I prefer Icke because of his past experience, and he seems humbled by the info.

Is that you in your avatar neuronomics?

[disorder2k8]

the docu is pretty good, fairly well done and good conclusions

[dantesinferno]

Is that you in your avatar neuronomics?

why you want a date? lol

[spongeblip]

LMAO The woman in the avatar is a singer named Aaliyah. She died in a plane crash (some years back), immediately after filming her video "Rock the Boat" in the Caribbean. Plane was overloaded and the pilot knew this, but still he overloaded the plane and they crashed immediately after take off. Her body was cut in half and they leaked these pictures on the net. It was horrible. She starred in Queen of the Damned with Jet Li. Quite a few conspiracies about her death back then. A really really nice girl she was. :(

Plus R Kelly also took a liking to her when she was a young teenager.. More weirdness surrounding that...

I should dig into that speaking of it... :eek:

[velma]

You should listen to Professor Griff of Public Enemy talking about this on Youtube: Aallyah was record producer Damon Dash's sacrifice, 2-Pac was Shug Knight's, Biggie was P-Diddy's, Eminem sacrificed DJ Proof and Kanye West... his mum! I'm guessing Shakir Stewart, Def Jam VP was Jay-Z's sacrifice. They all have one thing in common, they sold their soul's to join the 'Elite' - like Beyonce, Rihanna, Lady Gaga etc otherwise, they wouldn't be rich or famous and getting hyped by the media.

Professor Griff discussing occult rituals in hip hop part 1 - YouTube

On Alex Jones however.... it's all a BIG fuckin' joke to him. He say's it will take AN ARMY to defeat the NWO, in which case, we may as well give up now. In this trailer he say's he's "getting all fired up" - for what, to fight the New World Order? NO! For the release of his new DVD!

How can anyone take us seriously with this jerk acting like a raving nut-job?

SMASHING THE LIES and TYRANNY WITH FALL OF THE REPUBLIC - YouTube

He gained access to Bohemian Grove thanks to Jon Ronson, the Jew who introduced him to Colonel John Alexander and Major General Albert Stubblebine III, the "men who stare at goats" - high level Black Magicians and psy-op specialists who AJ interviewed on his show. Stubblebine prefers to be know as friendly old "Bert" now and along with his wife, is the Gatekeeper for Codex Alimentarius, when they are not bending spoons or walking through walls!

Odd company for a freedom fighter to keep.

[steevo]

This is a direct download link to The Fall of the Republic (http://keepvid.com/save-video.mp4?http%3A%2F%2Fv2.lscache4.c.youtube.com%2 Fvideoplayback%3Fip%3D0.0.0.0%26sparams%3Did%252Ce xpire%252Cip%252Cipbits%252Citag%252Calgorithm%252 Cburst%252Cfactor%26fexp%3D904406%252C900032%252C9 05207%26algorithm%3Dthrottle-factor%26itag%3D18%26ipbits%3D0%26burst%3D40%26sve r%3D3%26expire%3D1257188400%26key%3Dyt1%26signatur e%3DB07CE291991D2181E89A1645AD13610E75CCF6A6.ABBDA 8BC3A2C89D441A6B0D0BC0BF89E782D2239%26factor%3D1.2 5%26id%3D55e6ce4dcfbbb215)

[adzboarder]

I'm gonna watch later - cheers :)

[gwynned]

On Alex Jones however.... it's all a BIG fuckin' joke to him. He say's it will take AN ARMY to defeat the NWO, in which case, we may as well give up now. In this trailer he say's he's "getting all fired up" - for what, to fight the New World Order? NO! For the release of his new DVD!

How can anyone take us seriously with this jerk acting like a raving nut-job?

He gained access to Bohemian Grove thanks to Jon Ronson, the Jew who introduced him to Colonel John Alexander and Major General Albert Stubblebine III, the "men who stare at goats" - high level Black Magicians and psy-op specialists who AJ interviewed on his show. Stubblebine prefers to be know as friendly old "Bert" now and along with his wife, is the Gatekeeper for Codex Alimentarius, when they are not bending spoons or walking through walls!

Odd company for a freedom fighter to keep.

I gave up on Alex Jones when, in his last DVD, he managed to register in the same hotel as some of the elites and was whispering into the camera as though he was afraid of being caught. Seemed way too staged for me.

BUT, I am curious about Bert Stubblebine and his wife Rima. I have a friend who actually met them and believes them to be sincere. I have had my suspicions. Where did you obtain your background information on these two and how did you arrive at your conclusions?

[ronisron]

You should listen to Professor Griff of Public Enemy talking about this on Youtube: Aallyah was record producer Damon Dash's sacrifice, 2-Pac was Shug Knight's, Biggie was P-Diddy's, Eminem sacrificed DJ Proof and Kanye West... his mum! I'm guessing Shakir Stewart, Def Jam VP was Jay-Z's sacrifice. They all have one thing in common, they sold their soul's to join the 'Elite' - like Beyonce, Rihanna, Lady Gaga etc otherwise, they wouldn't be rich or famous and getting hyped by the media.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeREN_rwnVA

On Alex Jones however.... it's all a BIG fuckin' joke to him. He say's it will take AN ARMY to defeat the NWO, in which case, we may as well give up now. In this trailer he say's he's "getting all fired up" - for what, to fight the New World Order? NO! For the release of his new DVD!

How can anyone take us seriously with this jerk acting like a raving nut-job?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsSeC1cVop4&feature=player_embedded

He gained access to Bohemian Grove thanks to Jon Ronson, the Jew who introduced him to Colonel John Alexander and Major General Albert Stubblebine III, the "men who stare at goats" - high level Black Magicians and psy-op specialists who AJ interviewed on his show. Stubblebine prefers to be know as friendly old "Bert" now and along with his wife, is the Gatekeeper for Codex Alimentarius, when they are not bending spoons or walking through walls!

Odd company for a freedom fighter to keep.

Great post. I do enjoy those Industry videos. Very informative.

As for Alex Jones..... He's good at what he does because he believes in it. He believes the info he reports to be true. The fact that he gets mainstream play shows that there is more to the whole Alex Jones product than meets the eye... it's the info and how it's disseminated that's important, not the person who provides it, IMO. The nasty folks have their hands in EVERYTHING these days. We have to take it how we can.

[icarus]

It was suspicious Ron Jonson being part of that Bohemian Grove filming.

Jonson seems to specialise in making documentaries with his irritating "taking the piss childish" tone of voice about the NWO.

I saw one he did that spent most of the time trying to meet a guy in a car who had "information". Never happened of course, but provided plenty of opportunity for Jonson to ridicule it all. Total piss take.

AJ was either set up or was in on it. Probably set up because some of the scenes in the hotel he seemed to realise this and held back a bit. And the footage of course was crap, even if it was a concealed camera. Pinhole camera would have done a better job.

[pessi_optimist]

at the end of FOTR jones mentions the second part of the documentary, can this be found on youtube and under what title?

[adzboarder]

Just to throw something in the mix, have a look at the shape-shifting reptilian at 00.32.00

:eek: :mad: :rolleyes: :)

[ectocooler hic]

Alex Jones spreads hate. Informative and all.... but hateful and angry. He's gonna just get lots of people messed up. Where is the conspiracy theorist thats kind while exposing everyone? Anger doesn't solve anything. How can you be pissed at thousands of years of planning. Where's the respect?

I prefer Icke because of his past experience, and he seems humbled by the info.

What kind of hippie tree hugging bullshit philosophy is that? These people are indirectly and sometimes directly involved in child rape, kidnapping, murder, poisoning food supplies etc. All kinds of seemingly unrelated horrors that are connected together, that's pretty damn anger inducing. If he directs his anger at those doing such horror and people who are too stupid to see what is right in front of them..and deny it after a damning display of proof and reasoning...so be it, let loose with fury!!!

[velma]

I gave up on Alex Jones when, in his last DVD, he managed to register in the same hotel as some of the elites and was whispering into the camera as though he was afraid of being caught. Seemed way too staged for me.

BUT, I am curious about Bert Stubblebine and his wife Rima. I have a friend who actually met them and believes them to be sincere. I have had my suspicions. Where did you obtain your background information on these two and how did you arrive at your conclusions?

Stubblebine featured on Ronson's 'The Men Who Stare at Goats' - a TV documentary which exposed the psychological techniques developed by the 'First Earth Battalion' at Fort Bragg and Fort Meade, which were used to torture inmates at Abu Ghraib and Gitmo. It has been remade as a spoof movie.

You will find "Bert" among this mottley crew of spooks: (scroll down)

http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/hambone/people1.html

[camreeno]

Just to throw something in the mix, have a look at the shape-shifting reptilian at 00.32.00

:eek: :mad: :rolleyes: :)Timothy Geithner?

[Ian2day]

The film I'd like to see is Alex Jones taking a lie detector test. I have some questions that could be put to him. Or maybe it is all just a coincidence...

[zmanforever]

Alex Jones is really helping America out by helping people understand the Federal Reserve bank's NWO agenda, the Builderberg agenda. He is angry, because he is about not taking it anymore. He is simply fed up like many of us who know we are not free and are being used. Raised as an entire people of commercial based consumers and non-thinkers to help the NWO financially, very sad. Dont believe me look at the Marlboro manufaturers logo the Philip Morris one, it has to do with the NWO and the satanic imagery.

[tracker]

It's brilliant.

Watch it.

http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q=alex+jones&www_google_domain=www.google.co.uk&hl=en&emb=0#q=alex+jones&www_google_domain=www.google.co.uk&hl=en&emb=0&view=2&so=1&dur=3

thankyou for the link , I am listening now and thankyou Camreeno for the thread .

:cool:

[camreeno]

The film I'd like to see is Alex Jones taking a lie detector test. I have some questions that could be put to him. Or maybe it is all just a coincidence...
Why? What would he be lying about? What is all just a coincidence? He's a completely legitimate person in my view.

[steevo]

Fall of the Republic is the best movie so far that Alex has done IMO.

[mountainwarrior]

"What kind of hippie tree hugging bullshit philosophy is that? These people are indirectly and sometimes directly involved in child rape, kidnapping, murder, poisoning food supplies etc. All kinds of seemingly unrelated horrors that are connected together, that's pretty damn anger inducing. If he directs his anger at those doing such horror and people who are too stupid to see what is right in front of them..and deny it after a damning display of proof and reasoning...so be it, let loose with fury!!!"

people are conditioned since birth to NOT rant and rave to NOT scream and yell at injustice to NOT get up and fight when someone is bullying you.

move to the mountains for a month and you'll change, you'll see what i mean.

[trix]

Alex Jones close followers are mostly douchebags. From my experience, at least.

I did like this movie but I hate how anyone can dedicate themself shamelessly to one person and their message. Mindless followers are not informed, no matter what their opinions are, if they are mimicing the opinion of a famous figure.

[branjo]

Yeah I get that feeling of not putting all the proverbial eggs in one Alex Jones basket too. He has some good info but in the back of my mind I know the more fear he generates the more Cha Ching comes in because of that fear.

I just can't stand people who think he is awesome in every respect and who make excuses for him being an absolute asshole by saying he is waking people up, he isn't waking people up, he is telling people what is going to happen to them, with absolutely no uplifting information, no spiritual empowerment or anything of the sort. He is as helpful as a lawyer telling you what the court is going to do to you while telling you there is nothing you can do about it.

For that action alone he is probably helping the NWO by thinking he is attacking it, they after all need us to be angry, disgusted, afraid and most of all, a hairs breadth away from civil unrest. They didn't build up their police force and intense riot training for nothing. After all, the NWO are convinced there is going to be a big riot party and they will be the first there with all the bells and whistles.

Wouldn't it be funny if no rioters showed up to balance that equation.

Anyway I think Alex Jones is pure entertainment factor and most of what he says makes me laugh, I see his blatant attempts to cause panic and I just smile at them, and there are many of these times within his show...lol.

Just keep a huge pinch of salt at hand with old AJ and remember he has an ulterior motive to everything, even if he is not consciously aware of it, someone else is.

Panic and hatred will be the final 2 nails in the coffin for free thinking people. No one thinks clearly while in the grips of fear, and anger and hatred are simply byproducts of fear.

[velma]

His blustering rants are an act, when the camera stops rolling he bursts out laughing because it's impossible for him to stay in character and keep a straight face for too long, but look at the people he interviews and features on his slick films... all establishment figures, politicians, celebrities, high ranking officers etc (Aaron Russo, David Meyer de Rothschild, Col. Donn de Grand-Pre and Max Keiser (who appears in Fall of the Republic) said, Roman Polanski is being "persecuted" by the Patriot Act and it's a "shame" for this "icon" who was corrupted by "America."

SO much for their "anger" towards deviants!!

[adzboarder]

...

I just can't stand people who think he is awesome in every respect and who make excuses for him being an absolute asshole by saying he is waking people up, he isn't waking people up, he is telling people what is going to happen to them, with absolutely no uplifting information, no spiritual empowerment or anything of the sort...

If you watch the film, he does mention the human race as one consciousness so your comment isn't entirely true. I feel that Mr Icke has done some good things to get this across to Alex and he will learn from previous mistakes.

Great film - highly recommended for the BIG picture.

[branjo]

If you watch the film, he does mention the human race as one consciousness so your comment isn't entirely true. I feel that Mr Icke has done some good things to get this across to Alex and he will learn from previous mistakes.

Great film - highly recommended for the BIG picture.

Yes that is quite true, I think Alex has shifted in this way somewhat, he used to call Icke a nutjob for the ET/Reptilian thing. Maybe he believes it, maybe its a play on ratings as everyone else is open to it these days more and more.

Its just that, what is Alex's "end game"?. He seems to want to restore America to its former glory days. But I think that's were the problems stemmed from in the first place, it was the start of the monopoly of power and sooner or later that kind of power attracts the greedy elite like a moth to the flame.

I think he just wants it to be like it was, he is all about great country this and great country that. I mean the constitution is a pretty fine document but we all know the founding fathers were not exactly on the level either.

I suppose he is doing more than I ever could, but I just have a slight problem with how he does it...lol.

[Ian2day]

Yes that is quite true, I think Alex has shifted in this way somewhat, he used to call Icke a nutjob for the ET/Reptilian thing. Maybe he believes it, maybe its a play on ratings as everyone else is open to it these days more and more.

Its just that, what is Alex's "end game"?. He seems to want to restore America to its former glory days. But I think that's were the problems stemmed from in the first place, it was the start of the monopoly of power and sooner or later that kind of power attracts the greedy elite like a moth to the flame.

I think he just wants it to be like it was, he is all about great country this and great country that. I mean the constitution is a pretty fine document but we all know the founding fathers were not exactly on the level either.

I suppose he is doing more than I ever could, but I just have a slight problem with how he does it...lol.

$$$

[camreeno]

Alex Jones close followers are mostly douchebags. From my experience, at least.

I did like this movie but I hate how anyone can dedicate themself shamelessly to one person and their message. Mindless followers are not informed, no matter what their opinions are, if they are mimicing the opinion of a famous figure.People aren't subjugating themselves to him. He's just getting the information across. The method he does it by yelling and screaming might not help, but the fact that he's making the information available is commendable in itself and more than makes up for any paranoia his movies might bring. I doubt anyone is jumping on his bandwagon and worshipping him, rather most people will go off and do research on the topics and get submerged in all the things he's talking about.

[adzboarder]

Timothy Geithner?

That's him. Looks like a reptile to me.

Yes that is quite true, I think Alex has shifted in this way somewhat, he used to call Icke a nutjob for the ET/Reptilian thing. Maybe he believes it, maybe its a play on ratings as everyone else is open to it these days more and more.

Its just that, what is Alex's "end game"?. He seems to want to restore America to its former glory days. But I think that's were the problems stemmed from in the first place, it was the start of the monopoly of power and sooner or later that kind of power attracts the greedy elite like a moth to the flame.

I think he just wants it to be like it was, he is all about great country this and great country that. I mean the constitution is a pretty fine document but we all know the founding fathers were not exactly on the level either.

I suppose he is doing more than I ever could, but I just have a slight problem with how he does it...lol.

Imagine having to read and investigate and research EVERY single day like he has for YEARS and then having to prepare it for us in the form of news articles, videos and not to mention radio shows - If it was me, I reckon I would be getting a little bit shouty by now as well ! :)

I wonder what his End Game is, or if he has even thought about it. I think that maybe he saw how sheep-like the American people are (back in the day) and felt the only way to rouse them was with aggressive shouting. Must have been bloody frustrating, who wouldn't pop occasionally??

I'm sure he's making good money. He has to eat too, and I am sure he pumps a lot of money back into making it all happen as well.

Not everyone is a money-driven whore, but just a guy trying to make a difference in the universe.

You make some excellent points about the constitution and founding fathers, so I wonder what exactly Alex is trying to do. I often hear things like lets make this country GREAT again. When exactly WAS America great? It wasn't all that great even in 1776.

[adzboarder]

Fall of the Republic is the best movie so far that Alex has done IMO.

+1

[ectocooler hic]

Some expect people that immerse themselves in this information and being faced with knowing the very details of how they operate..then being harrassed by agents of the system wouldn't make someone act a lil squirrely

[velma]

He is a member of the bogus Remnant Saints and plugs the John Birch Society, both founded by Masonic Jews. There is nothing I'd like more than to believe in Alex Jones, I used to be his biggest fan (big mistake) I was even asked by Paul Watson to be guest writer on Prison Planet, I declined, because I'm already a guest writer for Illuminati News. Now, I feel 'infowars' just wanted to control my input, because I'm a loose cannon....

http://www.rsicc.org/Members/AlexJones/index.html

[steevo]

He is a member of the bogus Remnant Saints and plugs the John Birch Society, both founded by Masonic Jews. There is nothing I'd like more than to believe in Alex Jones, I used to be his biggest fan (big mistake) I was even asked by Paul Watson to be guest writer on Prison Planet, I declined, because I'm already a guest writer for Illuminati News. Now, I feel 'infowars' just wanted to control my input, because I'm a loose cannon....

http://www.rsicc.org/Members/AlexJones/index.html

The answer is to stop following people, and to look at the INFO in the videos instead of the personality.

[rodin]

The answer is to stop following people, and to look at the INFO in the videos instead of the personality.

Don't forget to find out about the OUTFO also

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The thrust of what he is doing must be of benefit to the NWO

[camreeno]

Don't forget to find out about the OUTFO also

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The thrust of what he is doing must be of benefit to the NWOSo your saying what Alex Jones is doing is harmful instead of helpful? I don't see a problem with exposing the innerworkings of the New World Order and spreading information about it. So his personality somehow distorts things? The info is what it is regardless of who's spreading it.